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From Noir to Nightmares: Exploring the Latest in Pop Culture · Systematic Geekology

1:11
Foreign.
1:15
What
1:15
would
1:15
you
1:16
do
1:16
with
1:16
a
1:17
wish
1:17
stick
1:17
that
1:18
could
1:18
grant
1:18
you
1:19
anything
1:19
you
1:19
desired?
1:20
And
1:21
would
1:21
you
1:21
wish
1:22
for
1:22
Nick
1:22
Cage
1:23
to
1:23
join
1:24
the
1:24
mcu?
1:26
Welcome
1:27
to
1:27
Systematic
1:28
Ecology.
1:29
We
1:29
are
1:29
the
1:29
priest
1:30
of
1:30
the
1:30
geeks
1:30
and
1:31
we
1:31
are
1:31
here
1:32
for
1:32
another
1:33
episode
1:34
of
1:34
what's
1:35
News,
1:35
where
1:35
we
1:36
talk
1:36
about
1:36
all
1:37
the
1:37
latest
1:37
things
1:37
in
1:38
pop
1:38
culture
1:39
and
1:39
geek
1:39
culture.
1:40
And
1:40
as
1:41
we
1:41
alluded
1:42
to
1:42
in
1:42
the
1:42
intro,
1:43
we're
1:43
going
1:43
to
1:43
be
1:43
talking
1:43
about
1:44
some
1:44
very
1:44
big
1:45
indie
1:45
horror
1:46
movies,
1:46
as
1:47
well
1:47
as
1:47
a
1:47
new
1:47
Spider
1:48
man
1:48
show
1:48
with
1:49
Nicolas
1:49
Cage.
1:50
So
1:50
I'm
1:50
very
1:51
excited
1:51
to
1:51
talk
1:51
about
1:51
all
1:52
of
1:52
this.
1:52
I
1:53
am
1:53
one
1:53
of
1:53
your
1:53
hosts,
1:54
Kevin
1:54
Schafer,
1:55
and
1:55
I
1:55
am
1:55
joined
1:56
by
1:56
fellow
1:56
geekologist
1:57
Evan
1:58
Garcia.
1:58
Evan,
1:59
how
1:59
are
1:59
you
1:59
tonight?
2:00
Hey,
2:01
Kevin,
2:01
how
2:01
are
2:02
you?
2:02
I'm
2:03
doing
2:03
good.
2:04
This
2:04
should
2:05
be
2:05
fun.
2:05
Excited
2:06
for
2:06
tonight,
2:07
dude?
2:07
I'm
2:07
excited.
2:08
We
2:09
are
2:09
very
2:09
excited.
2:09
And
2:10
if
2:10
you're
2:11
watching
2:12
live
2:12
on
2:12
YouTube,
2:13
hey,
2:13
welcome.
2:14
And
2:14
if
2:14
you're,
2:15
if
2:15
this
2:15
is
2:15
your
2:15
first
2:16
time
2:17
joining
2:17
Systematic
2:17
Ecology,
2:18
hey,
2:19
super
2:20
shout
2:20
out
2:20
to
2:20
you.
2:21
We
2:21
are
2:21
really
2:21
glad
2:22
you're
2:22
here.
2:23
And
2:24
yeah,
2:24
for
2:25
tonight,
2:25
we're
2:25
going
2:25
to
2:25
be
2:25
talking
2:26
about
2:26
two
2:27
new
2:27
indie
2:27
horror
2:28
films,
2:29
Obsession
2:29
and
2:30
Backrooms.
2:31
And
2:31
then
2:31
we're
2:31
also
2:31
taking
2:32
a
2:32
look
2:32
at
2:32
the
2:32
new
2:33
Spider
2:33
Noir
2:34
series
2:34
on
2:34
Amazon
2:35
prime.
2:36
And
2:36
we'll
2:36
also
2:36
talk
2:36
about
2:37
some
2:37
other
2:37
shows
2:37
and
2:37
movies
2:38
that
2:38
we've
2:38
been
2:38
geeking
2:39
out
2:39
on.
2:40
And
2:40
so
2:40
if
2:41
you're
2:41
live
2:42
right
2:42
now,
2:42
hey,
2:43
give
2:43
us
2:43
a
2:43
shout
2:43
out,
2:44
tell
2:45
us
2:45
where
2:45
you're
2:45
listening
2:46
from
2:46
and
2:46
we
2:47
will
2:47
announce
2:47
it
2:47
on
2:48
the
2:48
show.
2:49
So
2:49
we
2:49
really
2:50
appreciate
2:50
it.
2:50
And
2:51
hey,
2:51
I
2:52
know
2:52
every
2:52
podcast
2:53
says
2:53
it,
2:53
but
2:54
hey,
2:54
rate
2:54
and
2:55
review
2:55
our
2:56
show
2:56
wherever
2:56
you
2:57
get
2:57
the
2:57
chance,
2:58
whenever
2:59
you
2:59
get
2:59
the
2:59
chance,
2:59
whether
3:00
you're
3:00
listening
3:01
later
3:01
on
3:02
Spotify
3:02
or
3:03
Apple,
3:03
wherever
3:04
your
3:04
podcast,
3:05
or
3:05
if
3:05
you're
3:05
watching
3:05
here
3:05
on
3:06
YouTube
3:07
and
3:07
if
3:07
you
3:07
like
3:07
this
3:08
video,
3:08
if
3:08
we
3:09
get
3:09
50
3:09
likes,
3:10
we
3:10
will
3:10
have
3:10
Will
3:11
Rose,
3:11
one
3:11
of
3:12
our
3:12
regular
3:12
hosts,
3:13
is
3:13
on
3:13
sabbatical
3:14
right
3:14
now,
3:14
but
3:15
when
3:15
he
3:15
returns,
3:15
he
3:16
will
3:16
possibly
3:18
dress
3:18
up
3:18
as
3:19
one
3:19
of
3:19
the
3:19
Hutts
3:19
from
3:20
Star
3:20
wars.
3:21
And
3:21
who
3:22
doesn't
3:22
want
3:22
to
3:22
see
3:22
that?
3:23
So
3:23
if
3:23
you
3:23
want
3:23
to
3:23
do,
3:24
if
3:24
you
3:25
want
3:25
to
3:25
see
3:25
him
3:25
do
3:26
something
3:26
weird
3:27
and
3:27
geeky
3:29
like
3:29
this
3:29
video.
3:30
And
3:30
if
3:31
you
3:31
don't
3:31
know
3:31
Will,
3:31
Will
3:32
is
3:32
one
3:32
of
3:32
our
3:33
wonderful
3:33
hosts
3:33
and
3:34
you
3:34
will
3:34
appreciate
3:35
his
3:36
presence
3:36
when
3:37
the
3:37
show.
3:38
So
3:38
you
3:39
know.
3:39
Exactly,
3:40
exactly.
3:41
And
3:41
I
3:41
also
3:41
want
3:41
to
3:42
thank
3:42
one
3:42
of
3:42
our
3:43
financial
3:43
supporters
3:44
here
3:44
on
3:45
our
3:45
Patreon,
3:46
Jonathan
3:47
Augustine.
3:48
Thank
3:48
you
3:48
so
3:48
much
3:48
for
3:49
your
3:49
support.
3:50
We
3:50
really
3:50
appreciate
3:50
it.
3:51
And
3:51
if
3:51
you
3:51
want
3:51
a
3:52
shout
3:52
out
3:52
on
3:52
the
3:52
show
3:52
and
3:53
you
3:53
want
3:53
to
3:53
become
3:53
one
3:53
of
3:54
our
3:54
supporters,
3:55
you
3:55
can
3:55
just
3:55
click
3:56
on
3:56
the
3:56
link
3:56
in
3:56
the
3:56
show.
3:57
Notes
3:57
and
3:57
it'll
3:58
show
3:58
you
3:58
how
3:59
to
3:59
become
4:00
a
4:00
supporter
4:01
on
4:01
our
4:01
fourth
4:02
wall
4:02
site.
4:03
And
4:03
you
4:03
can
4:03
also
4:04
learn
4:04
how
4:04
to
4:04
get
4:05
merchandise
4:07
free
4:07
extra
4:08
content.
4:09
So
4:09
a
4:09
lot
4:09
of
4:09
good
4:09
rewards
4:10
for
4:10
you
4:10
there.
4:11
So
4:11
check
4:12
us
4:12
out.
4:12
We
4:12
really
4:12
appreciate
4:13
it.
4:13
Awesome.
4:14
Well,
4:14
Evan,
4:15
before
4:15
we
4:15
get
4:16
to
4:16
our
4:17
main
4:17
topics
4:17
tonight,
4:18
let's
4:19
first
4:19
get
4:19
around
4:19
to
4:20
a
4:20
lightning
4:21
round.
4:22
This
4:22
is
4:22
where
4:22
we're
4:23
gonna
4:23
just
4:23
hit
4:23
on
4:24
some
4:24
of
4:24
the
4:24
other
4:25
things
4:25
we've
4:26
been
4:26
geeking
4:26
out
4:26
on
4:27
lately,
4:28
aside
4:29
from
4:29
our
4:29
main
4:29
topic.
4:30
So,
4:31
Evan,
4:31
do
4:31
you
4:31
have
4:32
anything
4:32
you
4:33
want
4:33
to
4:33
shout
4:33
out?
4:33
Not
4:34
off
4:34
top
4:34
of
4:34
my
4:34
head.
4:35
I
4:35
saw
4:35
some
4:35
interesting
4:37
YouTube
4:37
videos
4:38
and
4:38
stuff
4:38
like
4:38
that,
4:39
but
4:40
I.
4:41
I've
4:41
been
4:41
so
4:42
busy
4:42
with
4:42
the
4:43
end
4:43
of
4:43
school
4:43
year
4:44
and
4:44
stuff.
4:44
So
4:44
Jose
4:45
was
4:45
hanging
4:45
out
4:45
with
4:45
the
4:46
kids.
4:46
Yeah.
4:47
And,
4:47
and,
4:48
and,
4:48
and
4:49
watching
4:50
these
4:50
movies.
4:50
So.
4:51
Yeah,
4:52
dude,
4:52
there's
4:52
been
4:52
a
4:53
lot.
4:53
And
4:53
like,
4:54
my
4:54
sister
4:54
is
4:55
an
4:55
elementary
4:55
school
4:56
teacher
4:56
and
4:56
she
4:57
described
4:57
like,
4:57
there.
4:58
She
4:58
did.
4:58
She
4:58
described
4:59
her
4:59
students
5:00
as
5:00
feral.
5:00
Right
5:01
now
5:02
they.
5:03
I
5:03
believe
5:04
it.
5:04
They
5:05
still.
5:06
Dude,
5:06
every
5:07
other
5:07
county
5:07
is
5:07
out
5:08
right
5:08
now
5:08
and
5:09
they're
5:09
still
5:09
going
5:09
to
5:10
like,
5:10
June
5:10
10th
5:11
or
5:11
something.
5:11
It's
5:12
crazy.
5:13
But.
5:13
Yeah,
5:13
but.
5:14
Well,
5:14
no
5:14
worries.
5:15
But
5:15
one
5:15
show
5:16
I
5:16
really
5:16
do
5:16
want
5:17
to
5:17
shout
5:17
out
5:17
that
5:17
I'm
5:17
gonna
5:18
need
5:18
to
5:18
do
5:18
a
5:18
full
5:18
episode
5:19
on
5:19
because
5:19
it's
5:19
that
5:20
good.
5:21
And
5:21
like,
5:21
I
5:21
want
5:22
to
5:22
see.
5:22
I
5:22
think
5:23
you
5:23
would
5:23
love
5:23
it.
5:23
And
5:23
I
5:24
want
5:24
to
5:24
see
5:24
who
5:24
else
5:25
can
5:25
from
5:25
the
5:25
pod
5:25
can
5:26
watch
5:26
it
5:26
so
5:27
we
5:27
can
5:27
talk
5:27
about
5:27
it
5:27
more
5:27
in
5:28
depth.
5:28
But
5:28
Widows
5:29
Bay
5:29
on
5:30
Apple
5:30
tv.
5:31
Oh,
5:31
dude,
5:32
I,
5:32
like,
5:33
I
5:33
wish
5:33
I
5:33
had
5:33
jumped
5:34
on
5:34
it
5:34
sooner.
5:34
I
5:35
only
5:35
binged
5:35
it,
5:35
like,
5:36
this
5:36
weekend,
5:36
and
5:36
then
5:36
I
5:37
just
5:37
watched
5:37
the
5:37
most
5:37
recent
5:38
episode,
5:38
but
5:39
oh,
5:39
my
5:39
gosh,
5:40
it's
5:40
phenomenal.
5:40
So
5:41
I
5:41
can
5:41
give
5:41
just
5:42
the
5:42
brief
5:42
overview.
5:43
This
5:44
is
5:44
a
5:44
series
5:44
created
5:45
by
5:45
Katie
5:46
Dippold,
5:46
who
5:46
was
5:47
a
5:47
writer
5:47
on
5:47
Parks
5:48
and
5:48
Rec,
5:48
and
5:48
she's
5:49
written
5:49
some
5:49
other,
5:49
like,
5:50
Paul
5:50
Fee
5:50
comedies.
5:51
But
5:52
the
5:52
series
5:53
very
5:53
inspired
5:54
by
5:54
Stephen
5:55
King
5:55
or
5:56
Mike
5:56
Flanagan's
5:57
Midnight
5:58
Mass.
5:58
But
5:58
it's
5:59
about
5:59
this
5:59
small
6:00
island
6:00
town
6:01
called
6:01
Widow's
6:01
Bay
6:02
off
6:02
the
6:02
coast
6:03
of
6:03
Massachusetts.
6:04
And
6:04
all
6:05
this
6:05
weird
6:06
stuff
6:06
has
6:06
been
6:06
happening
6:07
in
6:07
the
6:07
town
6:08
for
6:08
literally
6:08
centuries.
6:09
And
6:10
the
6:10
people
6:10
there
6:11
have,
6:11
you
6:12
know,
6:12
extreme
6:12
superstitions
6:13
about
6:14
how,
6:15
you
6:15
know,
6:15
you're
6:15
not
6:16
supposed
6:16
to
6:16
leave
6:16
the
6:16
island
6:17
and
6:18
it's
6:18
cursed.
6:19
And
6:20
there's
6:20
a
6:21
fusion
6:21
of
6:21
comedy
6:22
and
6:22
horror
6:23
that
6:23
I
6:23
really
6:23
love
6:23
about
6:23
the
6:24
show.
6:24
And
6:24
the
6:24
other
6:24
thing
6:25
that
6:25
I
6:25
really
6:25
like
6:25
about
6:25
it,
6:25
too,
6:26
is
6:26
that
6:27
it's
6:27
kind
6:27
of
6:28
a
6:28
perfect
6:28
marriage
6:28
between
6:29
episodic
6:30
storytelling
6:31
and
6:31
serialized
6:32
storytelling.
6:32
So
6:33
while
6:33
it
6:33
does
6:33
tell
6:34
this
6:34
overarching
6:34
narrative
6:35
of
6:36
the
6:36
central
6:37
character
6:37
is
6:37
the
6:37
mayor
6:38
of
6:38
the
6:38
town
6:38
who
6:39
is
6:40
still
6:40
much
6:40
like
6:41
the
6:41
mayor
6:41
in
6:41
Jaws.
6:42
He
6:43
wants
6:43
to
6:43
keep
6:44
tourism
6:44
open
6:45
and
6:45
he
6:45
knows
6:46
that
6:46
there's
6:46
weird
6:47
stuff
6:47
happening
6:47
going
6:47
on
6:48
in
6:48
the
6:48
town,
6:48
but
6:48
at
6:49
the
6:49
same
6:49
time
6:49
he's
6:50
trying
6:50
to
6:50
keep
6:50
it
6:50
alive
6:51
and
6:51
he
6:52
wants
6:52
people
6:52
coming
6:52
in
6:52
and
6:53
he
6:53
doesn't
6:53
want
6:53
them
6:53
to
6:53
be
6:54
scared
6:54
away
6:55
by
6:55
all
6:56
the
6:56
old
6:56
wives
6:56
tales
6:57
and
6:57
everything.
6:57
But
6:58
at
6:58
the
6:58
same
6:58
time,
6:59
he
6:59
keeps
6:59
his
7:00
son
7:00
from
7:00
ever
7:00
leaving
7:01
the
7:01
island.
7:01
So,
7:02
like,
7:02
he
7:02
knows
7:02
that
7:02
the
7:03
curse
7:03
exists
7:03
and
7:04
he's
7:04
trying
7:04
to
7:05
find
7:05
that
7:05
balance.
7:05
And
7:06
so
7:06
that's
7:06
sort
7:07
of
7:07
the
7:07
overarching
7:07
narrative.
7:08
But
7:08
like,
7:08
each
7:09
episode
7:10
does
7:10
this
7:10
really
7:11
cool,
7:12
like,
7:12
different
7:13
horror
7:13
elements.
7:13
Like,
7:14
the
7:14
first
7:14
one
7:15
deals
7:15
with
7:15
this
7:15
mysterious
7:16
fog.
7:17
There
7:18
is
7:18
a.
7:19
There's
7:19
an
7:19
episode
7:19
where
7:20
a
7:20
party
7:20
goes
7:21
terribly
7:21
wrong
7:21
and
7:22
it
7:22
evokes
7:22
like
7:22
an
7:23
Evil
7:23
Dead
7:23
type
7:24
thing.
7:25
The
7:25
episode
7:25
that
7:26
just
7:26
dropped
7:26
today
7:26
that
7:27
I
7:27
just
7:27
watched,
7:27
it
7:28
was
7:28
like,
7:28
yeah,
7:28
it
7:29
was
7:29
a
7:29
riff
7:29
today.
7:30
It
7:30
was
7:30
a
7:30
riff
7:30
on
7:31
Michael
7:31
Myers.
7:32
And
7:33
so,
7:33
yeah,
7:34
dude.
7:34
Dude,
7:34
it's
7:35
so.
7:35
And
7:36
it's
7:36
great.
7:37
It's
7:37
just
7:37
like.
7:37
I
7:37
mean,
7:38
it's
7:38
a,
7:38
again,
7:38
perfect
7:39
vision
7:39
of
7:39
comedy
7:39
and
7:39
horror.
7:40
Each
7:40
episode
7:41
kind
7:41
of
7:41
feels
7:41
like
7:42
a
7:42
Stephen
7:42
King
7:42
short
7:43
story,
7:43
but
7:43
then
7:44
there
7:44
is
7:44
the
7:44
overarching
7:45
narrative
7:45
to
7:45
it.
7:45
So
7:46
I,
7:46
I
7:46
cannot
7:46
recommend
7:47
it
7:47
enough.
7:48
Also,
7:48
Steven
7:49
Root
7:49
is
7:49
one
7:49
of
7:49
the
7:50
main
7:50
actors
7:50
who
7:51
might
7:51
be
7:51
one
7:51
of
7:51
my
7:51
favorite
7:51
actors
7:52
of
7:52
all
7:52
time.
7:53
Like,
7:54
he
7:54
was
7:55
Milton
7:55
in
7:55
the
7:55
Office
7:56
Space.
7:56
No,
7:57
really?
7:57
Did
7:58
you
7:58
watch
7:58
Barry?
7:59
He
7:59
wasn't
8:00
very.
8:02
Yeah,
8:03
the.
8:04
His
8:04
main.
8:05
Barry's
8:06
main,
8:06
like,
8:08
like
8:08
employer.
8:09
When
8:09
he
8:09
went
8:09
like.
8:10
I
8:10
don't
8:10
remember
8:10
the
8:11
older
8:11
dude.
8:12
Yeah,
8:14
all
8:14
right.
8:14
Yeah,
8:14
yeah.
8:16
Steven.
8:16
Steve.
8:17
Steven
8:18
Rood
8:18
is
8:18
really
8:18
one
8:19
of
8:19
the
8:19
great
8:19
character
8:20
actors.
8:20
Like
8:21
you
8:21
probably.
8:21
I
8:21
mean,
8:21
if
8:22
you
8:22
look
8:22
up
8:22
his
8:22
IMDb
8:23
he
8:23
has
8:23
like
8:23
300
8:24
credits
8:24
because
8:24
he's
8:25
a
8:25
ton
8:25
of
8:25
voice
8:26
acting
8:26
as
8:26
well.
8:27
And
8:27
he's
8:28
in
8:28
a
8:28
lot
8:28
of
8:28
like,
8:28
cult
8:29
films
8:29
and
8:29
stuff
8:29
like
8:30
that.
8:30
But,
8:31
but,
8:31
and
8:31
he
8:31
can
8:32
really
8:32
transform
8:32
himself.
8:33
But
8:34
he
8:34
plays
8:34
like
8:34
one
8:35
of
8:35
the
8:35
longtime
8:36
islanders
8:37
who
8:37
is
8:38
very
8:38
much
8:38
like
8:39
warning
8:39
the
8:39
mayor
8:39
about
8:40
all
8:40
the
8:40
weird
8:40
stuff
8:41
going
8:41
on.
8:42
So,
8:42
yeah,
8:42
it's
8:43
fit
8:43
to
8:43
play.
8:43
Widow's
8:44
faith
8:44
Cannot
8:44
recommend
8:45
enough.
8:45
I'm,
8:45
I,
8:45
I'm
8:46
gonna.
8:46
Again,
8:46
I'm
8:46
gonna
8:46
need
8:47
to
8:47
do
8:47
a
8:48
full
8:48
episode
8:49
on
8:49
it.
8:50
I
8:50
think
8:50
you
8:50
would
8:50
love
8:50
it.
8:51
I
8:52
like,
8:52
I'm
8:52
kind
8:52
of
8:52
Christian,
8:53
definitely.
8:54
I
8:54
think
8:55
Jill,
8:55
definitely.
8:55
Like,
8:56
we
8:56
gotta
8:56
get
8:57
that
8:57
like,
8:57
once
8:57
the
8:58
season
8:58
ends.
8:58
Right
8:58
on.
8:59
Right
8:59
on,
8:59
man.
9:00
Good.
9:00
Awesome.
9:01
Well,
9:01
Evan,
9:02
I
9:02
know
9:02
there
9:02
is
9:02
a
9:03
lot
9:03
of
9:03
big
9:03
topics
9:03
to
9:04
talk
9:04
about
9:04
tonight,
9:04
so
9:05
let's
9:05
start
9:05
with
9:05
our
9:06
first
9:06
one,
9:06
which
9:07
is
9:08
Nick
9:08
Cage
9:09
spider
9:10
noir
9:10
series.
9:11
I
9:12
just,
9:12
I
9:12
can.
9:12
I
9:12
Just
9:13
say,
9:13
I
9:13
love
9:13
that
9:13
this
9:13
exists.
9:14
I
9:14
mean,
9:14
can
9:14
you
9:15
believe
9:15
we're
9:15
in
9:15
a
9:15
world
9:16
where
9:16
Nick,
9:17
not
9:17
only
9:17
is
9:17
Nicholas
9:17
Cage
9:18
in
9:18
a
9:18
TV
9:18
show,
9:19
which
9:19
is
9:19
a
9:19
big
9:19
deal,
9:20
which
9:20
we
9:20
have
9:20
to
9:20
talk
9:21
about,
9:21
but
9:21
also
9:21
that
9:22
they
9:22
made
9:22
a
9:22
live
9:23
action
9:23
action
9:23
series
9:23
of
9:24
spider.
9:24
We
9:24
are,
9:25
we
9:25
are
9:25
so
9:25
spoiled.
9:27
This
9:27
is
9:28
insanity.
9:28
And
9:29
it's
9:29
perfect.
9:30
It's
9:30
just
9:30
what
9:31
I
9:31
thought
9:31
it
9:31
would
9:31
be.
9:32
It
9:32
really
9:32
is.
9:33
I
9:33
mean,
9:33
I,
9:34
you
9:34
know,
9:34
I
9:34
of
9:35
course
9:35
loved
9:35
the
9:36
character
9:36
in
9:37
the
9:37
Spider
9:37
Verse
9:37
films
9:38
and
9:38
you
9:39
know,
9:39
and
9:40
really
9:40
all
9:40
of
9:40
the
9:41
supporting
9:42
spider
9:42
player,
9:42
like
9:43
spider
9:44
noir,
9:44
Spider
9:44
ham,
9:45
Spider
9:45
punk,
9:46
like
9:46
I
9:46
was
9:47
like,
9:47
I
9:47
want
9:47
to
9:47
see
9:47
more
9:48
of
9:48
all
9:48
these,
9:48
whether
9:48
they
9:48
do
9:49
an
9:49
animated
9:49
spin
9:50
off
9:50
or
9:50
something
9:50
like
9:50
this.
9:51
And
9:51
this
9:52
was
9:52
actually
9:52
like
9:53
the
9:53
perfect
9:53
way
9:53
to
9:54
expand
9:55
on
9:55
this
9:55
character.
9:55
So,
9:56
Evan,
9:56
do
9:56
you
9:56
want
9:56
to.
9:57
Because
9:57
I
9:57
know
9:57
now
9:58
I
9:58
am,
9:58
I
9:58
have
9:58
not
9:58
quite
9:59
finished
9:59
the
9:59
series.
9:59
I'm,
10:00
I've
10:01
watched
10:01
five
10:01
out
10:01
of
10:01
the
10:01
eight
10:02
episodes.
10:02
But
10:02
like
10:03
you
10:03
said,
10:03
there's
10:03
been
10:03
a
10:03
lot
10:04
coming
10:04
out
10:04
lately
10:05
and
10:05
I've,
10:06
I
10:06
also
10:06
kind
10:06
of
10:07
like
10:07
the
10:07
more
10:08
weekly
10:08
release
10:09
format
10:10
this
10:10
was.
10:11
They
10:11
dropped
10:11
the
10:11
whole
10:11
season,
10:12
so
10:12
I
10:12
haven't
10:12
had
10:12
time
10:12
to
10:13
finish
10:13
it
10:13
yet.
10:13
But
10:13
you
10:14
want
10:14
to
10:14
give
10:14
viewers
10:15
and
10:15
listeners
10:16
a
10:16
brief
10:16
overview
10:17
of
10:18
what
10:18
this
10:18
series
10:18
is
10:19
and
10:19
what
10:19
it's
10:19
about.
10:20
It
10:20
is
10:20
a,
10:21
it's
10:22
a,
10:22
It's
10:22
a
10:23
Spider
10:24
man
10:24
flick
10:24
where
10:25
the
10:25
lead
10:26
Spider
10:26
man
10:27
is
10:27
called
10:27
Ben
10:28
Reilly.
10:29
He's
10:29
a
10:30
detective
10:30
in
10:31
what
10:31
seems
10:32
like
10:33
a
10:33
different
10:33
universe.
10:34
I
10:34
think
10:34
they,
10:35
they
10:35
set
10:36
that
10:36
up
10:36
and
10:36
they
10:36
kind
10:36
of
10:37
allude
10:37
to
10:37
different
10:37
universes,
10:38
I
10:38
think.
10:39
But
10:40
he's,
10:40
he's
10:41
a
10:41
private
10:41
investigator
10:44
that
10:44
has
10:44
his
10:44
own
10:46
agency,
10:46
kind
10:47
of
10:47
like,
10:48
kind
10:48
of
10:48
like
10:49
Jessica
10:50
Jones.
10:50
But
10:51
it's
10:51
set
10:51
in
10:51
the
10:52
30s
10:52
in
10:53
1930s
10:54
in
10:54
New
10:55
York.
10:56
And
10:56
the
10:56
first
10:57
thing
10:57
that
10:58
I
10:58
think
10:58
that
10:59
you
10:59
will
10:59
notice
11:00
when
11:00
you
11:00
watch
11:01
it,
11:01
it's,
11:02
it's,
11:03
it's
11:03
basically
11:04
Dick
11:04
Tracy
11:05
and
11:07
I
11:07
just
11:07
don't
11:08
know
11:08
how
11:09
else
11:09
to
11:09
do
11:09
it.
11:09
It's
11:10
with
11:10
the,
11:11
it's
11:12
the
11:12
cars,
11:13
the
11:13
costume,
11:14
the
11:15
accents,
11:16
the
11:16
hats,
11:17
the,
11:17
the
11:18
lighting,
11:18
the
11:19
film
11:19
noir
11:19
ness
11:20
of
11:20
it.
11:21
It's
11:21
very
11:21
film
11:22
noir.
11:23
There's,
11:23
there's
11:24
a
11:24
black
11:24
and
11:25
white
11:25
version
11:25
and
11:25
there's
11:26
a
11:26
full
11:27
color
11:27
version
11:28
and
11:29
so.
11:29
And
11:29
it's
11:30
a
11:30
pretty
11:30
cool
11:30
feature.
11:30
You
11:31
can
11:31
swap
11:31
between
11:32
them
11:32
and
11:32
stuff
11:32
like
11:32
that.
11:33
It's
11:33
pretty
11:33
cool.
11:34
But
11:34
he's
11:35
a
11:35
private
11:35
eye.
11:36
He.
11:37
He
11:38
has
11:38
an
11:38
assistant
11:39
and
11:39
she
11:40
does
11:40
all
11:41
the
11:41
paperwork.
11:42
But
11:42
he
11:43
very,
11:44
he's
11:45
very
11:45
cynical,
11:46
he's
11:46
very
11:47
nihilistic
11:48
at
11:48
this
11:48
point.
11:50
He
11:50
has
11:51
a
11:51
past
11:51
where
11:51
his.
11:53
I
11:53
don't
11:53
think
11:54
they
11:54
were
11:54
married,
11:54
but
11:55
a
11:56
love
11:56
interest
11:56
died
11:57
and
11:58
he's
11:58
and
11:58
he's
11:59
been
11:59
sent
11:59
down
12:00
a
12:01
hole
12:01
of
12:02
despair
12:02
and
12:02
he
12:03
has
12:03
not
12:03
been
12:03
able
12:04
to
12:04
get
12:04
out
12:04
of
12:04
it
12:04
since
12:05
then.
12:05
So
12:06
they
12:06
take
12:06
some
12:06
odd
12:07
jobs
12:07
and
12:09
to
12:10
one
12:10
thing
12:11
leads
12:12
to
12:12
another.
12:12
And
12:13
we
12:13
have
12:13
a
12:14
crime
12:14
boss
12:15
in
12:16
the
12:16
version
12:17
of
12:18
a
12:18
Silvermane.
12:20
He's
12:20
played
12:21
by
12:21
Brendan
12:21
Gleason,
12:23
fantastically
12:23
played
12:24
by
12:24
him.
12:24
And
12:25
he's
12:25
kind
12:25
of
12:25
like
12:26
a
12:26
kingpin
12:26
light.
12:27
He's
12:27
not
12:28
kind
12:29
of
12:29
overpowering,
12:30
but
12:31
he
12:31
has
12:31
the
12:31
same
12:32
presence.
12:33
And
12:37
there's.
12:37
And
12:38
then
12:38
there's
12:39
a
12:40
news
12:40
reporter,
12:41
there's
12:42
a
12:42
subplot.
12:43
And
12:43
he's
12:43
a
12:44
supporting
12:44
character
12:45
played
12:46
by
12:47
Lamorne
12:48
Williams.
12:49
I
12:49
think.
12:51
Yes,
12:54
he
12:54
plays
12:55
one
12:55
of
12:55
the
12:55
best.
12:56
So.
12:56
Well,
12:57
the
12:57
supporting
12:58
cast
12:58
in
12:58
this
12:58
show
12:59
is
12:59
brilliant.
13:00
They
13:00
all
13:00
have
13:02
their
13:02
own
13:02
characteristics
13:03
and
13:03
they
13:03
all
13:04
upbringing.
13:06
They
13:06
wait
13:06
to
13:06
the
13:07
character.
13:07
And.
13:08
And.
13:10
And
13:10
that's
13:11
pretty
13:11
much
13:12
it,
13:12
I
13:12
think.
13:13
And
13:13
yeah,
13:14
we
13:14
can
13:14
go
13:15
from
13:15
there.
13:15
No,
13:15
great
13:16
summary.
13:16
And
13:16
it
13:17
is.
13:17
It's
13:17
very.
13:18
It's
13:18
Dick
13:18
Tracy,
13:19
it's
13:19
Sam
13:19
Spade.
13:20
And
13:21
you
13:21
know,
13:21
more
13:21
and
13:21
more
13:22
it
13:22
was
13:22
perfect
13:22
to
13:22
cast
13:23
him
13:23
as
13:23
Robbie
13:24
Robertson
13:24
because
13:24
like,
13:25
that's
13:25
one
13:25
of
13:25
my
13:25
favorite
13:25
characters
13:26
in
13:26
the
13:26
90s
13:27
Spider
13:27
man
13:27
cartoon.
13:28
But
13:28
the
13:28
way
13:28
they
13:29
incorporate
13:29
him
13:29
here,
13:30
it
13:30
fits
13:30
so
13:30
perfectly.
13:31
Like,
13:31
I.
13:31
I
13:32
love
13:32
how
13:32
they
13:32
play
13:33
with
13:33
all
13:33
of
13:33
the
13:33
archetypes.
13:35
Film
13:35
noir.
13:37
Yeah.
13:37
And
13:37
it's
13:38
just,
13:38
you
13:38
know,
13:38
and.
13:39
Because
13:39
that
13:40
was
13:40
the
13:40
only.
13:40
Like
13:40
when
13:41
I
13:41
first
13:41
started
13:41
the
13:41
show,
13:42
I
13:42
mean,
13:42
I
13:42
was
13:42
enjoying
13:42
it
13:43
from
13:43
the
13:43
get
13:43
go,
13:44
but
13:44
I
13:44
was
13:44
like,
13:44
you
13:45
know,
13:45
for.
13:45
With
13:45
the
13:45
pilot,
13:46
I
13:46
was
13:46
like,
13:46
okay,
13:47
this
13:47
is
13:47
cool.
13:48
But
13:48
how
13:48
are
13:48
they
13:49
gonna
13:49
really
13:49
keep
13:50
this
13:50
to
13:50
be
13:50
a
13:50
compelling
13:51
narrative?
13:51
Because,
13:52
you
13:52
know,
13:53
I.
13:53
I
13:53
see
13:53
all
13:53
the
13:53
tropes.
13:54
I
13:54
see
13:54
the
13:54
femme
13:54
fatale,
13:55
the
13:56
private
13:56
eye,
13:56
the
13:57
assistant,
13:57
you
13:58
know,
13:58
the,
13:58
the
13:58
crime
13:59
boss,
13:59
the
13:59
corrupt
13:59
politician.
14:00
All
14:00
of
14:00
that
14:01
is
14:01
here.
14:02
But
14:02
where
14:02
are
14:03
they
14:03
gonna
14:03
go?
14:03
And
14:03
you
14:04
know,
14:04
in
14:04
the.
14:04
The
14:04
deceased
14:05
love
14:05
interest,
14:06
all
14:07
of
14:07
those
14:07
elements
14:07
were
14:08
there,
14:08
but
14:08
it's
14:09
like,
14:09
you
14:09
know,
14:09
what
14:09
are
14:09
they
14:10
gonna
14:10
do
14:11
to
14:12
kind
14:12
of
14:12
elevate
14:12
it
14:12
and
14:13
merge
14:13
it
14:13
with
14:13
the
14:13
superhero
14:14
story?
14:15
And
14:15
I
14:15
think
14:15
they
14:15
do
14:15
a
14:16
phenomenal
14:16
job.
14:16
Like,
14:17
I
14:17
mean,
14:17
one
14:17
thing
14:17
I
14:18
really
14:18
like
14:18
too
14:18
is
14:19
it's
14:19
become
14:20
kind
14:20
of
14:20
a
14:20
trend
14:20
now
14:21
where
14:21
a
14:22
lot
14:22
of
14:22
superhero
14:23
shows,
14:24
they
14:24
make
14:25
you
14:25
wait
14:25
for
14:26
the
14:27
character
14:27
to
14:27
put
14:27
on
14:27
the
14:28
suit,
14:29
whether
14:29
they
14:29
are
14:30
retired,
14:31
like
14:31
in
14:32
this
14:32
case
14:32
or.
14:33
Or
14:33
they're
14:34
stepping
14:34
into.
14:34
I
14:35
mean,
14:35
like,
14:35
yeah,
14:35
Daredevil
14:36
comes
14:36
to
14:36
mind.
14:37
You
14:37
know,
14:37
both
14:37
the
14:38
original
14:38
incarnation
14:39
and
14:39
then
14:39
Born
14:39
Again,
14:41
like
14:41
Born
14:41
Again
14:42
season
14:42
one.
14:42
It
14:43
took
14:43
a
14:43
while
14:43
for
14:44
Matt
14:44
to
14:44
get
14:44
the
14:44
suit
14:45
back
14:45
on
14:46
after
14:46
he
14:46
goes
14:47
through
14:47
that
14:47
arc.
14:48
And
14:48
I
14:48
was
14:48
kind
14:48
of
14:48
worried
14:49
that
14:49
they
14:49
would
14:49
do
14:49
this.
14:50
That
14:50
again.
14:50
Because
14:50
I'm
14:51
like,
14:51
okay,
14:51
here.
14:52
I
14:52
don't
14:52
really
14:52
want
14:53
to
14:53
wait,
14:53
you
14:53
know,
14:54
five
14:54
episodes
14:55
before
14:55
we
14:55
see
14:56
him
14:56
in
14:56
the
14:56
spider
14:57
suit.
14:57
And
14:58
yeah,
14:58
no,
14:58
he.
14:58
I
14:59
mean
14:59
it.
14:59
Circumstances
15:00
force
15:01
him
15:01
to
15:01
come
15:01
out
15:01
of
15:02
retirement
15:02
and
15:02
he
15:03
still
15:03
has
15:03
that
15:03
like
15:04
internal
15:04
grappling
15:04
and
15:05
it's
15:05
very
15:05
melodramatic.
15:06
But
15:07
I
15:07
really.
15:07
That
15:08
was
15:08
one
15:08
of
15:08
my
15:08
favorite
15:08
elements
15:09
was
15:09
they
15:09
got
15:10
to
15:10
the
15:10
superhero
15:11
elements
15:12
quicker
15:12
than
15:12
I
15:12
thought
15:13
and
15:13
they
15:13
merged
15:14
perfectly
15:14
with.
15:15
And
15:15
they
15:15
completely.
15:17
They
15:18
completely
15:19
embrace
15:20
the
15:21
style
15:22
without
15:22
making
15:22
fun
15:23
of
15:23
it
15:23
or
15:24
without
15:24
making
15:25
it
15:25
look
15:25
cheesy.
15:26
They
15:26
just
15:27
nail
15:27
the
15:27
tone
15:28
perfectly.
15:29
Yeah.
15:30
And
15:31
I
15:31
just
15:31
had
15:31
a
15:31
smile
15:32
on
15:32
my
15:32
face
15:32
like
15:33
I'm
15:33
watching
15:34
a
15:34
cool
15:36
superhero
15:37
and
15:38
like
15:38
flick.
15:39
Noir's
15:40
flick.
15:41
And
15:42
did
15:42
you
15:42
watch
15:43
it
15:43
in
15:43
a
15:43
color
15:44
or
15:46
the
15:46
black?
15:46
No.
15:47
Nice.
15:48
Nice.
15:49
I
15:49
had
15:49
to
15:49
do
15:49
black
15:49
and
15:50
white.
15:50
I
15:50
mean,
15:50
I
15:50
might
15:51
go
15:51
back.
15:51
I
15:51
mean
15:51
now
15:51
granted
15:52
the.
15:52
The
15:52
color.
15:53
But
15:53
like
15:54
it's
15:54
cool
15:54
because
15:55
it.
15:55
They
15:56
used
15:56
a
15:56
very
15:57
like
15:57
saturated
15:58
color.
15:59
Much
15:59
like
15:59
you
15:59
see
16:00
like
16:00
a
16:00
Wizard
16:01
of
16:01
Oz
16:01
where
16:01
it's
16:01
very.
16:02
It's
16:02
not
16:02
the
16:03
kind
16:03
of
16:04
day
16:04
where
16:04
it's
16:04
more
16:04
muted.
16:05
It's
16:06
very
16:06
of
16:06
its
16:06
time.
16:07
So
16:07
I
16:07
do.
16:07
I
16:08
am
16:08
curious
16:08
to
16:08
go
16:09
back
16:09
and
16:09
once
16:09
I
16:09
finish
16:10
it,
16:10
I
16:10
do
16:10
want
16:11
to
16:11
see
16:11
some
16:11
scenes
16:11
just
16:12
to
16:12
see
16:12
what
16:12
they
16:12
look
16:12
like.
16:13
But
16:13
I
16:13
had
16:14
for
16:14
the
16:14
first
16:14
viewing,
16:15
I
16:15
had
16:15
to
16:15
go
16:15
full
16:15
black
16:16
and
16:16
white.
16:16
It
16:16
just.
16:16
It
16:17
looks
16:17
so
16:17
much
16:17
better
16:18
and
16:18
it's
16:19
meant
16:19
for
16:19
that.
16:19
But
16:20
I
16:20
do
16:20
like
16:20
that
16:20
they
16:20
give
16:21
you
16:21
the
16:21
option
16:21
and
16:21
you
16:21
can
16:22
kind
16:22
of
16:22
like.
16:22
Like
16:22
for
16:23
instance,
16:23
the.
16:24
When
16:25
Cat
16:25
Hardy,
16:26
who,
16:26
I
16:26
mean,
16:26
was
16:26
very
16:27
much
16:27
like
16:27
a.
16:27
This
16:28
is
16:28
the
16:28
other
16:28
thing.
16:28
I
16:28
like
16:28
how
16:28
they
16:29
take
16:29
classic
16:30
SP
16:30
characters
16:30
from
16:31
Spider
16:31
man
16:31
mythology
16:31
and
16:32
reinvent
16:32
them
16:32
a
16:33
little.
16:33
So
16:33
Cat
16:33
Hardy
16:34
is
16:34
very
16:34
much
16:35
like
16:35
the
16:35
Felicia
16:36
Hardy
16:36
here.
16:37
They
16:37
just
16:37
changed
16:38
the
16:38
name
16:39
but,
16:39
you
16:39
know,
16:40
she's
16:40
the
16:40
femme
16:40
fatale.
16:41
But
16:41
the.
16:43
This
16:43
sequence
16:44
in
16:45
episode
16:45
one
16:45
when
16:45
she's
16:46
singing,
16:46
I
16:46
think
16:47
that
16:47
would
16:47
look
16:47
great
16:47
in
16:48
color.
16:49
It
16:49
just
16:50
has
16:50
that
16:50
vibrant
16:50
aesthetic
16:51
to
16:51
it.
16:52
So
16:52
I
16:52
do
16:52
want
16:52
to
16:52
go
16:52
back
16:53
and
16:53
watch
16:53
that.
16:53
I
16:54
kind
16:54
of
16:54
want
16:54
to
16:54
see
16:54
some
16:54
of
16:54
the
16:54
fight
16:55
scenes
16:55
of
16:55
color,
16:55
see
16:55
what
16:56
they
16:56
look
16:56
like
16:57
and
16:57
also
16:57
some
16:58
of
16:58
the
16:58
creatures
16:58
and
16:58
everything.
16:59
But
16:59
overall
17:00
it
17:00
just
17:00
looks
17:01
amazing
17:01
in
17:01
my
17:02
way.
17:02
And.
17:03
And
17:04
I
17:04
want
17:04
to
17:05
get
17:05
it
17:05
into
17:05
the.
17:07
Like
17:07
there's
17:08
the
17:08
trope
17:08
of
17:10
the
17:11
different
17:11
gangsters
17:12
and
17:12
stuff.
17:12
And
17:13
they
17:13
played
17:14
so
17:14
well.
17:15
It
17:15
could
17:16
be
17:16
cliche,
17:16
but
17:17
it's
17:17
not.
17:18
And
17:19
yeah,
17:19
no,
17:21
it
17:21
was
17:22
really
17:22
cool
17:22
to
17:22
see
17:24
for
17:24
the
17:24
first
17:25
few
17:25
episodes.
17:25
He
17:26
played.
17:26
He
17:27
played
17:27
Milton
17:28
Lucas
17:29
Haas
17:30
from.
17:31
From
17:33
Rian
17:34
Johnson
17:34
lore.
17:35
So.
17:36
And
17:36
yes,
17:36
damn.
17:38
I
17:38
was
17:38
like,
17:38
oh,
17:39
wow,
17:39
he.
17:40
Is
17:40
that
17:40
really
17:40
him?
17:41
Because
17:42
he.
17:42
Because
17:43
he
17:43
looks
17:43
old
17:44
and
17:44
then
17:44
when
17:45
I
17:45
look
17:45
him
17:46
up,
17:46
he's
17:46
only
17:46
two
17:46
years
17:47
older
17:47
than
17:47
me.
17:47
I'm
17:47
like,
17:48
oh,
17:48
man.
17:51
And
17:52
we're
17:52
also.
17:53
Both
17:53
of
17:53
us
17:53
are
17:54
much
17:54
older
17:54
than
17:55
the
17:55
directors
17:56
we're
17:56
about
17:56
to
17:56
talk
17:57
about
17:57
in
17:57
the
17:57
next
17:58
year.
17:58
I
17:58
like,
17:59
oh
17:59
my
17:59
gosh,
17:59
dude.
18:00
Yeah,
18:00
we'll
18:00
get
18:00
to
18:01
that
18:01
in
18:01
a
18:01
bit.
18:01
But,
18:02
but
18:02
yeah,
18:03
I
18:03
know.
18:03
That's
18:03
the
18:03
other
18:03
thing.
18:04
I
18:04
really
18:04
love
18:05
what
18:05
they
18:05
do
18:05
with
18:05
the
18:06
villains
18:06
here.
18:06
And
18:06
like.
18:07
But
18:07
the
18:07
villains
18:07
and
18:08
Ben
18:08
Reilly
18:10
got
18:10
all
18:11
their
18:11
powers
18:12
during
18:12
World
18:12
War
18:13
II
18:14
and
18:14
there
18:14
was
18:14
all
18:14
this
18:15
like
18:15
weird
18:15
monster
18:16
stuff,
18:16
good
18:16
sci
18:17
fi
18:17
going
18:17
on
18:18
that
18:18
was
18:18
very
18:18
evocative
18:19
of
18:19
like
18:20
the
18:20
poll.
18:22
Yep,
18:23
they.
18:23
They
18:25
bring
18:25
that
18:26
up
18:26
and
18:28
like
18:29
ever
18:29
since
18:30
watching
18:30
the
18:31
One
18:31
Piece
18:34
a
18:34
live
18:34
action.
18:35
That's
18:35
a
18:36
standard
18:36
for
18:37
the
18:37
mid
18:38
season
18:38
cry
18:38
for
18:39
me
18:39
because
18:40
there's
18:40
this
18:41
one
18:42
episode
18:42
that
18:43
is
18:43
just
18:43
so
18:44
emotional.
18:46
I
18:46
was
18:46
like,
18:46
oh,
18:47
that
18:47
was
18:47
heavy.
18:47
Like,
18:48
dang,
18:50
it
18:50
really
18:50
got
18:50
me.
18:51
Did
18:51
you
18:51
ever
18:51
watch
18:52
any
18:52
of
18:52
the
18:52
CW
18:53
Flash
18:53
series?
18:54
No,
18:54
but
18:54
I
18:54
watched.
18:55
Yeah,
18:57
I
18:57
watched
18:58
the
18:58
Agree.
18:59
Narrow.
19:00
Okay.
19:01
Yeah,
19:01
yeah.
19:02
So
19:02
like,
19:02
no,
19:02
I
19:02
was
19:02
just
19:03
curious
19:03
because
19:03
the
19:04
Flash
19:04
did
19:05
a
19:05
similar
19:05
thing
19:05
where
19:06
like
19:06
Barry
19:07
and
19:07
all
19:07
the
19:07
villains
19:08
got
19:08
their
19:08
powers
19:08
at
19:09
the
19:09
same
19:09
time
19:10
through
19:10
the,
19:11
the
19:11
lightning
19:12
storm
19:12
accident.
19:12
And
19:12
I,
19:13
I
19:13
like
19:13
that
19:13
as
19:13
a
19:13
job.
19:14
I
19:14
mean,
19:14
yeah,
19:14
it's
19:14
a
19:14
trope,
19:15
but
19:15
it's
19:15
like
19:15
it
19:15
worked
19:16
perfectly
19:16
here.
19:17
Like
19:17
they
19:17
were
19:17
like
19:18
banning
19:19
everyone.
19:19
Like,
19:20
yeah,
19:20
once
19:20
you
19:20
become
19:20
electro
19:21
and
19:22
spoil
19:22
it.
19:23
But
19:23
that
19:24
plays
19:24
into
19:25
the,
19:27
the,
19:27
the,
19:29
the
19:29
take
19:30
on
19:30
the
19:31
famous
19:31
line
19:32
with.
19:32
With
19:33
a
19:33
great
19:33
power
19:34
comes
19:34
great
19:35
responsibility.
19:36
There's
19:36
a
19:36
twist
19:37
on
19:37
that
19:37
take
19:38
at
19:39
the
19:39
very
19:39
end
19:39
and
19:40
it's.
19:40
I
19:40
was
19:41
like,
19:41
touche,
19:41
guys.
19:42
Touche.
19:42
Nice.
19:43
Yeah,
19:44
yeah.
19:45
No,
19:46
if
19:46
you
19:46
want
19:46
just
19:46
a
19:47
like
19:47
wildly
19:48
entertaining
19:48
series,
19:49
I
19:49
mean,
19:49
this
19:49
is
19:50
it.
19:50
It's.
19:50
You
19:50
know,
19:50
and
19:51
I
19:51
also.
19:51
I
19:51
was
19:52
talking
19:52
about
19:52
this
19:52
with
19:52
Christian
19:54
on
19:54
another
19:54
what's
19:55
News
19:55
episode
19:55
a
19:56
couple
19:56
weeks
19:56
ago.
19:57
There
19:57
was
19:57
a
19:58
recent
19:58
Spider
19:59
Man
19:59
Superman
20:00
crossover
20:00
comic
20:01
that
20:01
had
20:02
a
20:02
bunch
20:02
of
20:02
backup
20:02
stories
20:03
and
20:03
they
20:03
did
20:03
one
20:03
with
20:04
spider
20:04
noir
20:05
and
20:05
then
20:05
the
20:06
Superman
20:06
of
20:07
like
20:07
the
20:07
30s
20:07
there.
20:08
So
20:08
like
20:08
the
20:08
Max
20:09
Fleischer
20:09
style.
20:10
And
20:10
I'm
20:10
like,
20:10
oh,
20:11
I
20:11
would
20:11
watch
20:11
this
20:12
as
20:12
a
20:12
show.
20:12
Yes.
20:13
Like,
20:13
it
20:14
was
20:14
great.
20:14
Yeah,
20:14
yeah,
20:15
yeah.
20:15
So,
20:16
yeah,
20:17
this
20:17
is
20:17
one
20:17
where
20:17
it's
20:18
like.
20:18
Yeah,
20:18
I
20:18
know.
20:18
I
20:18
mean,
20:19
it's
20:19
a.
20:19
It's
20:19
got
20:19
the
20:20
tropes.
20:20
It's
20:21
very
20:21
much
20:21
like
20:21
not
20:22
trying
20:22
to.
20:23
He
20:23
plays
20:24
a
20:24
lot
20:24
of
20:24
characters.
20:25
Nicholas,
20:25
this
20:25
case
20:26
surprisingly,
20:27
like.
20:27
Yeah.
20:28
Does
20:28
a
20:28
lot
20:28
of
20:28
improv
20:29
in
20:29
this
20:30
and
20:30
he's
20:30
so
20:31
perfect
20:31
in
20:31
that.
20:32
The
20:32
way
20:33
he
20:33
can
20:33
just
20:34
switch
20:34
different
20:35
kind
20:35
of
20:35
characters
20:36
and
20:36
play
20:37
that
20:37
weird,
20:37
quirky.
20:38
Yeah.
20:39
Horror
20:40
that
20:40
he
20:40
likes
20:41
to
20:41
play,
20:41
too.
20:42
So
20:43
it's.
20:43
Yeah.
20:44
And
20:44
I
20:44
mean,
20:44
he's
20:45
always
20:45
been
20:45
great
20:45
at
20:46
it,
20:46
but,
20:46
oh,
20:46
my.
20:46
I
20:46
mean,
20:46
one
20:47
of
20:47
my
20:47
favorite
20:47
scenes,
20:47
it
20:48
was
20:48
like.
20:48
I
20:48
think
20:48
it
20:49
was
20:49
episode
20:49
two
20:50
or
20:50
three
20:50
when
20:51
he
20:51
goes
20:52
to
20:52
the
20:52
apartment,
20:52
because
20:52
he's.
20:53
I
20:53
think
20:53
it
20:53
was
20:53
two
20:53
because
20:54
he's
20:54
going
20:54
to
20:54
retrieve
20:55
the
20:55
suit
20:56
where
20:56
he
20:56
left
20:56
it
20:57
back,
20:57
and.
20:58
And
20:58
he
20:58
pretends
20:59
to
20:59
be
20:59
like.
21:00
Like,
21:00
what
21:01
was
21:01
he
21:01
playing
21:01
or
21:02
something.
21:02
Oh,
21:02
to
21:03
fix
21:03
the
21:03
toilet.
21:04
Yeah,
21:04
yeah,
21:04
to
21:04
fix
21:04
the
21:04
toilet.
21:05
There.
21:05
He's
21:05
like,
21:05
oh,
21:06
nice.
21:06
You
21:06
got
21:06
a
21:06
big
21:08
histrionic
21:09
character
21:10
performance.
21:10
It
21:11
was
21:11
beautiful.
21:12
I
21:13
mean,
21:13
that's
21:13
the
21:13
thing
21:13
about
21:14
Nick
21:14
Cage.
21:14
I
21:14
mean,
21:15
yes,
21:15
he
21:15
is
21:15
the
21:16
king
21:16
of
21:16
Internet
21:17
memes.
21:17
And.
21:18
Oh,
21:18
I
21:18
sent
21:19
you
21:19
on
21:19
Instagram
21:19
that.
21:20
My
21:21
brother
21:21
sent
21:21
me
21:21
this.
21:21
This,
21:22
like,
21:22
comedian
21:23
who
21:23
does
21:23
a.
21:23
Perfect.
21:24
That
21:24
was
21:24
amazing.
21:25
He's
21:25
just
21:25
been
21:25
making
21:26
videos
21:26
of
21:27
it.
21:27
Yeah,
21:27
yeah.
21:27
But
21:27
like.
21:29
Like,
21:29
he
21:29
was
21:30
going
21:30
to
21:31
the
21:31
comic
21:31
shop.
21:31
He's
21:32
like
21:32
Wolverine,
21:33
you
21:34
know,
21:36
But.
21:36
But
21:36
no,
21:37
Nick
21:37
Gage
21:37
has
21:38
always
21:38
been.
21:38
I
21:39
mean,
21:39
I
21:39
think
21:39
maybe,
21:40
like,
21:41
he's
21:41
so
21:41
easy
21:41
to,
21:42
like,
21:42
you
21:42
know,
21:42
make
21:43
memes
21:43
about,
21:44
but
21:44
he
21:44
really
21:44
is
21:44
a
21:45
brilliant
21:45
artist
21:45
and
21:46
actor
21:46
and
21:46
he
21:47
knows
21:47
all
21:47
these
21:47
different
21:48
eras
21:48
of
21:48
film,
21:49
particularly
21:49
classic.
21:50
And
21:51
that's
21:51
like,
21:53
here.
21:54
Comic
21:54
book
21:54
reference.
21:55
So.
21:56
Yeah,
21:57
exactly.
21:57
Exactly.
21:58
He.
21:58
I
21:59
mean.
21:59
I
21:59
mean,
21:59
he's
21:59
the
21:59
nephew
22:00
of
22:00
Francis
22:00
Ford
22:01
Coppola
22:02
and
22:02
then.
22:02
Yeah.
22:03
Changed
22:03
it
22:03
to,
22:03
you
22:04
know,
22:04
based
22:04
off
22:04
Luke
22:05
Cage.
22:07
But,
22:07
yeah,
22:07
this
22:07
is
22:08
just
22:08
a.
22:08
It's
22:08
a
22:09
blast
22:09
of
22:09
a
22:09
show.
22:11
You
22:11
know,
22:11
I.
22:11
I
22:12
definitely
22:12
want
22:12
more.
22:14
Yeah.
22:14
A
22:15
really
22:15
fun
22:15
creative
22:15
team
22:16
here.
22:16
Liked
22:16
a
22:17
lot
22:17
of
22:17
the
22:17
directors,
22:18
what
22:18
they
22:18
brought
22:18
to
22:19
it.
22:19
Great
22:19
cast.
22:20
Brandon
22:20
Gleason.
22:21
It's
22:21
always
22:22
a
22:22
delight
22:22
to
22:22
see
22:23
and
22:23
learn
22:24
more
22:24
and
22:24
more
22:24
as
22:24
they.
22:24
It
22:25
just.
22:25
Everyone
22:26
knew
22:27
exactly
22:27
how
22:27
to
22:28
play
22:29
the
22:29
roles
22:30
here
22:30
and
22:30
knew
22:30
what
22:31
kind
22:31
of
22:31
world
22:31
this
22:31
was
22:33
and
22:33
could
22:33
blend
22:34
the
22:34
noir
22:35
and
22:35
the
22:35
comedy.
22:35
And
22:36
I
22:36
just
22:36
don't
22:37
know
22:37
if
22:37
it
22:38
plays
22:38
into
22:39
the.
22:40
Into
22:40
which
22:41
a
22:41
universe
22:41
it's
22:42
in.
22:42
Is
22:42
it.
22:44
Yeah.
22:44
Or
22:45
is
22:45
it
22:45
the
22:46
spider
22:46
verse?
22:46
I
22:46
couldn't
22:47
tell.
22:47
And
22:49
it
22:49
might
22:49
be
22:49
both.
22:50
Who
22:50
knows?
22:50
And
22:51
I
22:51
kind
22:51
of
22:51
like
22:51
that
22:51
they
22:52
leave
22:52
that
22:52
more
22:52
ambiguous.
22:53
Like,
22:53
they.
22:54
They
22:54
say,
22:54
like
22:54
a
22:54
line
22:55
about.
22:55
At
22:55
the
22:55
very
22:55
beginning,
22:56
they're
22:56
like,
22:56
what
22:56
universe
22:57
is
22:57
it?
22:57
But
22:58
I.
22:58
They,
22:58
like,
22:59
I
22:59
was
22:59
watching
22:59
a
22:59
video
23:00
the
23:00
other
23:00
day
23:00
on
23:00
Screen
23:01
Crash,
23:01
saying
23:01
that,
23:02
like,
23:02
this
23:02
was
23:03
kind
23:03
of
23:03
the
23:03
multiverse
23:04
story
23:04
we
23:04
should
23:04
have
23:04
gotten,
23:05
because
23:05
it's
23:05
not
23:06
as
23:06
concerned
23:07
with
23:07
all
23:07
that
23:07
baggage.
23:08
It's
23:08
just
23:08
like,
23:08
hey,
23:09
let's
23:09
just
23:09
tell
23:09
a
23:10
fun
23:10
story.
23:10
Story
23:11
set
23:11
in
23:11
whatever
23:12
universe
23:12
and
23:13
yeah,
23:13
Like,
23:14
I.
23:14
I'm
23:14
gonna
23:14
kind
23:15
of
23:15
in
23:15
my
23:15
head
23:15
canon.
23:16
I'm
23:17
setting
23:17
this
23:17
in
23:17
the
23:17
Spider
23:17
verse
23:18
universe.
23:18
But
23:19
also,
23:19
I
23:19
mean,
23:19
the
23:20
Spider
23:20
verse
23:20
one,
23:21
like,
23:21
they
23:21
made
23:21
references
23:22
to
23:22
the
23:22
MCU616
23:25
in
23:26
across
23:26
the
23:26
Spider
23:26
verse,
23:27
so
23:27
it's
23:27
all
23:27
connected.
23:28
But
23:28
regardless,
23:29
I
23:29
just.
23:29
I
23:29
appreciate
23:30
this
23:30
as
23:30
a
23:31
standalone
23:31
story,
23:31
you
23:32
know?
23:32
So,
23:33
yeah,
23:33
everybody
23:33
go
23:33
watch
23:34
it.
23:34
Awesome.
23:35
Well,
23:36
go
23:36
watch
23:36
Spider
23:37
Noir.
23:38
And
23:39
now
23:40
for
23:40
Zaya
23:41
Little
23:41
Dead
23:41
Red.
23:41
But
23:42
we've
23:42
got
23:42
two
23:43
big
23:43
indie
23:44
horror
23:44
films
23:44
to
23:45
talk
23:45
about
23:45
next,
23:45
so.
23:46
Oh,
23:46
the
23:46
first
23:46
one,
23:47
this
23:47
was
23:47
a
23:47
heavy
23:47
one,
23:48
man.
23:48
I
23:48
loved
23:48
it.
23:49
Yeah,
23:50
man,
23:50
I
23:50
love
23:50
this
23:51
one,
23:51
though.
23:51
Oh,
23:51
my
23:52
gosh.
23:52
Yeah.
23:53
Yeah.
23:53
Like,
23:53
I.
23:53
I
23:54
am.
23:55
Pun
23:55
intended.
23:55
But
23:56
I
23:56
am.
23:56
I
23:56
have
23:56
been
23:56
obsessed
23:57
with
23:57
this
23:57
one
23:57
ever
23:57
since
23:58
my
23:58
daughter
23:59
as
23:59
well.
23:59
I
23:59
mean,
24:00
dude,
24:00
your
24:01
daughter?
24:01
How
24:01
old's
24:01
your
24:01
daughter?
24:02
Like,
24:02
she's
24:03
doing.
24:04
She's
24:05
like,
24:05
oh,
24:05
do
24:05
you
24:05
want
24:05
to
24:05
see
24:05
it?
24:05
Because
24:07
really,
24:07
I've
24:08
seen
24:08
some
24:08
memes,
24:08
and
24:08
I
24:08
was
24:08
like,
24:09
I
24:09
don't
24:09
know
24:09
what
24:09
it's
24:10
about.
24:10
But
24:10
then
24:10
she.
24:11
And
24:12
then
24:12
she
24:12
was
24:12
excited,
24:12
so
24:13
I
24:13
was
24:13
like,
24:13
all
24:13
right,
24:13
yeah,
24:14
let's
24:14
go,.
24:16
Dude.
24:17
I
24:17
didn't
24:17
share
24:17
it
24:18
out
24:18
of
24:18
my
24:18
mind.
24:20
She
24:20
was.
24:20
Terry.
24:21
She
24:21
was
24:21
screaming
24:22
and,
24:22
like,
24:22
crying
24:23
and.
24:23
But
24:24
she
24:24
loved
24:24
it.
24:25
She
24:25
loved
24:25
it.
24:25
Like,
24:26
I
24:26
mean,
24:26
hey,
24:27
that's
24:27
cool.
24:27
That's
24:28
cool.
24:28
But,
24:28
yeah,
24:29
so
24:29
Obsession.
24:30
I
24:30
mean,
24:31
this
24:31
is
24:31
written
24:32
and
24:32
directed
24:32
by
24:33
Curry
24:33
Barker,
24:34
who
24:35
is
24:35
only
24:35
26
24:35
years
24:36
old.
24:37
You
24:37
know,
24:37
like,
24:38
I.
24:38
Crazy
24:39
that
24:39
I'm
24:40
32,
24:40
like,
24:41
you
24:41
know,
24:41
and
24:41
like,
24:41
this
24:42
kid's,
24:42
like,
24:42
you
24:43
know,
24:44
and
24:44
making,
24:44
you
24:44
know,
24:45
a
24:45
movie
24:45
that
24:45
was
24:45
made
24:46
on
24:46
a
24:46
budget
24:46
of
24:46
less
24:47
than
24:47
a
24:47
million,
24:47
has
24:47
already
24:48
grossed
24:48
well
24:48
over
24:49
100
24:49
million,
24:50
is
24:50
beating
24:50
out
24:51
Star
24:51
Wars.
24:51
Yeah.
24:52
Like,
24:52
I
24:52
mean,
24:52
it's
24:53
wild,
24:54
but.
24:54
Yeah.
24:55
So.
24:55
Yeah,
24:56
yeah,
24:56
yeah.
24:56
Oh,
24:57
my
24:57
gosh.
24:57
So
24:58
I
24:58
got,
24:58
like,
24:59
now
24:59
this
24:59
is
25:00
one
25:00
I.
25:01
I
25:01
think
25:01
we
25:01
could
25:01
download.
25:03
We
25:03
can
25:03
probably
25:04
touch
25:04
on
25:04
something.
25:06
Spoilers
25:06
with
25:06
you.
25:06
Yeah,
25:07
sure.
25:08
Yeah,
25:08
let's
25:08
do
25:08
it.
25:09
So.
25:09
Because
25:09
I.
25:10
If
25:10
you
25:10
have
25:10
not
25:11
seen
25:11
it,
25:11
come
25:11
back,
25:11
listen
25:12
this
25:12
later.
25:12
But
25:12
it
25:13
has
25:13
been
25:13
out
25:13
a
25:13
couple
25:13
weeks
25:14
now,
25:14
and,
25:15
yeah,
25:15
it's
25:15
kind
25:16
of
25:16
hard
25:16
to
25:16
talk
25:16
about
25:16
it
25:17
without
25:17
getting
25:17
into
25:18
the
25:18
story
25:18
a
25:18
bit,
25:19
but
25:19
the
25:19
basic
25:20
premise
25:20
is
25:21
you
25:21
have
25:21
this
25:22
guy
25:23
named
25:23
Bear
25:23
who.
25:25
Which
25:25
is,
25:25
you
25:26
know,
25:26
interesting
25:27
name
25:27
to
25:27
begin
25:28
with,
25:28
but
25:28
he.
25:29
He's
25:29
in
25:30
this
25:30
friend
25:30
group,
25:30
and
25:31
he
25:31
has
25:31
a
25:31
major
25:32
crush
25:32
on
25:32
his
25:33
friend
25:33
Nikki,
25:34
who
25:34
only
25:34
sees
25:35
him
25:35
in
25:35
a
25:35
platonic
25:36
way,
25:37
and
25:37
he's,
25:38
you
25:38
know,
25:38
trying
25:39
to
25:39
figure
25:39
out
25:39
the
25:39
way
25:39
to
25:40
express
25:40
his
25:40
feelings,
25:41
etc.
25:42
But
25:42
then
25:42
he,
25:43
you
25:43
know,
25:43
when
25:43
the
25:43
moment
25:44
comes,
25:44
he
25:45
can't
25:45
bring
25:45
himself
25:45
to
25:46
do
25:46
it.
25:46
But
25:47
he
25:47
goes
25:48
to
25:48
this
25:48
shady
25:49
goth
25:49
store
25:50
where
25:50
he
25:51
picks
25:51
up
25:51
a
25:52
One
25:52
Wish
25:52
willow.
25:53
I
25:53
love
25:53
that
25:53
they
25:53
named
25:54
his
25:54
hat.
25:54
Like,
25:54
that
25:54
was
25:54
great.
25:54
Like,
25:55
but
25:55
it's
25:55
just
25:55
this,
25:55
like,
25:56
cheap
25:56
wish
25:57
stick,
25:57
which
25:57
he's
25:57
just
25:58
like,
25:58
yeah,
25:58
whatever.
25:59
I'll
25:59
probably.
25:59
I'll
25:59
take
25:59
this
26:00
up.
26:00
It's
26:00
probably
26:00
just
26:00
dumb,
26:01
but
26:01
I'll
26:01
pick
26:02
it.
26:02
But.
26:02
But
26:02
in
26:03
a
26:03
moment
26:03
of
26:03
just
26:04
like,
26:04
either
26:04
stupidity
26:05
or
26:05
just,
26:06
you
26:06
know,
26:06
oh,
26:06
he
26:07
doesn't
26:07
think
26:07
this
26:07
is
26:07
actually
26:07
gonna
26:08
work.
26:08
He
26:09
says,
26:09
I
26:10
wish
26:10
Nikki
26:11
loves
26:11
me
26:11
more
26:12
than
26:12
anyone
26:13
in
26:13
the
26:13
world.
26:14
And
26:15
from
26:16
that
26:16
point
26:16
on,
26:16
you
26:16
can
26:17
imagine
26:17
the
26:18
repercussions
26:18
of
26:19
that.
26:20
And,
26:20
you
26:21
know,
26:21
this
26:21
immediately
26:22
causes
26:22
Nikki,
26:23
played
26:23
by
26:23
Indy
26:24
Navarat,
26:24
who.
26:24
I
26:24
was
26:25
so
26:25
excited
26:25
to
26:25
see
26:25
her
26:25
because
26:26
I'm
26:27
like,
26:27
I've
26:28
watched
26:28
all
26:28
four
26:28
seasons,
26:29
seasons
26:29
of
26:29
Superman
26:29
and
26:30
Lois.
26:30
It's
26:30
one
26:30
of
26:30
my
26:31
favorite
26:31
Superman
26:32
adaptations.
26:32
And
26:33
she
26:33
played
26:34
Lana
26:34
Lang's
26:34
daughter
26:35
in
26:35
that.
26:36
And
26:36
then
26:36
she
26:36
comes
26:37
here
26:37
and
26:37
delivers
26:38
an
26:38
absolutely
26:39
powerhouse
26:39
performance.
26:41
But,
26:42
you
26:42
know,
26:43
so
26:45
Bear
26:45
gets
26:45
his
26:46
wish,
26:46
and
26:46
Nikki
26:47
instantly
26:48
turns
26:49
a
26:49
switch
26:49
and
26:49
becomes
26:51
not
26:51
just
26:51
in
26:51
love,
26:51
but
26:52
obsessed
26:52
with
26:52
him
26:53
and
26:54
into
26:55
an
26:55
unhealthy
26:55
degree.
26:55
And
26:56
from
26:56
the
26:56
get
26:56
go,
26:57
he
26:57
starts,
26:57
you
26:57
know,
26:57
noticing,
26:58
like,
26:58
how
26:59
much
26:59
her
26:59
personality
27:00
and
27:00
behavior
27:01
changes,
27:01
you
27:02
know,
27:02
in
27:02
the
27:02
blink
27:02
of
27:02
an
27:02
eye.
27:03
And
27:04
I.
27:04
That's
27:04
why
27:04
also,
27:05
one
27:05
of
27:05
the
27:05
big
27:05
things
27:05
I
27:05
love
27:06
about
27:06
the
27:06
movie
27:06
and
27:06
again,
27:07
about
27:07
her
27:07
performance
27:07
is
27:08
that
27:08
first
27:08
10
27:09
minutes
27:09
we
27:09
get
27:10
to
27:10
see
27:10
her
27:11
as
27:11
her
27:12
true
27:12
self.
27:12
And
27:13
then
27:13
when
27:13
she
27:14
switches,
27:14
it
27:15
hurts.
27:15
Just
27:15
like
27:15
it's
27:16
playing
27:16
a
27:16
different
27:16
character
27:17
switch
27:17
like
27:17
that.
27:18
It
27:18
hurts.
27:19
Yes.
27:20
It's
27:21
brutal.
27:21
And,
27:22
you
27:22
know,
27:22
from
27:22
then
27:23
on,
27:24
he's,
27:25
you
27:25
know,
27:25
at
27:25
first
27:26
he's
27:26
like,
27:26
wait,
27:26
is
27:27
this,
27:27
like,
27:27
actually
27:27
happening?
27:28
What's
27:28
going
27:28
on
27:28
here?
27:29
And
27:30
then
27:30
their
27:30
other
27:31
friends
27:31
in
27:31
the
27:31
group,
27:33
Ian,
27:33
played
27:33
by
27:33
Cooper
27:34
Tomlinson,
27:34
and
27:35
Sarah,
27:36
played
27:36
by
27:36
Megan
27:36
Lawless,
27:37
they
27:37
start
27:37
noticing
27:38
weird
27:38
stuff
27:38
too.
27:39
And
27:40
it
27:40
just,
27:40
you
27:40
know,
27:41
escalates
27:41
further
27:41
and
27:42
further.
27:43
Probably
27:43
the
27:44
most,
27:44
like,
27:44
just
27:45
like
27:45
the
27:46
moment
27:46
where
27:46
I
27:46
was
27:46
like,
27:47
oh,
27:47
you
27:48
know,
27:48
like
27:49
in
27:49
the
27:49
theater
27:50
was
27:51
when.
27:52
Because
27:52
they're
27:53
all
27:53
working
27:53
at
27:53
this
27:53
record
27:54
store,
27:56
a
27:56
he
27:56
go,
27:57
yes,
27:58
from
27:58
Identity
27:59
with
27:59
the
27:59
Stars.
27:59
Oh,
28:00
yeah,
28:01
sorry.
28:01
Yeah,
28:01
yeah,
28:02
yeah,
28:02
yeah,
28:02
yeah.
28:03
Like,
28:03
I,
28:03
I.
28:03
No,
28:03
no,
28:04
no,
28:04
you're
28:04
good.
28:04
Like,
28:04
I.
28:05
And
28:05
he's
28:05
also
28:05
like
28:06
Sarah's
28:06
dad
28:07
in
28:07
it,
28:07
too.
28:08
But
28:08
yeah,
28:09
they're.
28:09
They're
28:09
all
28:09
organized,
28:09
right?
28:10
And
28:10
there's
28:10
one
28:11
day
28:11
where
28:12
he's
28:12
on
28:13
shift
28:13
and
28:14
Nikki's
28:15
not.
28:15
And
28:16
Nikki
28:17
waits
28:17
for.
28:18
Stands
28:18
still
28:19
and
28:19
waits
28:19
for
28:19
him
28:19
all
28:19
day
28:20
at
28:20
the
28:20
door
28:20
and
28:20
urinates
28:21
and.
28:22
And
28:23
like,
28:24
right
28:25
there
28:25
on
28:25
the
28:25
floor
28:25
because
28:25
she
28:25
can't
28:26
move
28:26
with
28:26
A
28:27
smile
28:27
on
28:27
her
28:27
face.
28:28
It
28:28
was
28:28
one
28:28
of
28:28
the
28:28
most
28:29
unsettling
28:29
images
28:30
I've
28:30
seen
28:30
in
28:31
a
28:31
movie
28:31
in
28:31
a
28:31
while.
28:32
And
28:33
again,
28:33
just
28:33
perfection
28:35
delivered.
28:35
But
28:36
yeah,
28:36
so,
28:36
you
28:36
know,
28:36
it
28:37
asks
28:38
further
28:38
and
28:38
further.
28:39
And
28:39
I
28:40
dude,
28:40
okay,
28:40
so,
28:40
like,
28:41
oh,
28:41
we'll
28:41
go
28:41
ahead
28:41
and
28:41
get
28:41
into
28:42
this
28:42
because,
28:42
like,
28:43
I,
28:43
I,
28:43
I.
28:43
I
28:44
was
28:44
amazed
28:44
that
28:44
I
28:44
saw
28:45
any
28:45
reviews
28:45
that
28:46
were
28:46
like,
28:46
who
28:46
is
28:47
the
28:47
real
28:47
villain?
28:48
I
28:48
know.
28:48
Obsession.
28:49
I
28:49
was
28:49
like,
28:50
bro,
28:50
how
28:50
did
28:51
you,
28:51
like,
28:51
was
28:52
there
28:52
any
28:52
debate
28:52
here?
28:53
This
28:53
guy
28:53
was.
28:53
To
28:54
be
28:54
honest,
28:55
I
28:55
give
28:56
the
28:56
film
28:56
credit
28:57
to
28:57
not
28:57
make
28:58
Bear
28:58
completely
28:59
villainous
29:00
because
29:02
there's
29:02
a
29:02
world
29:03
where
29:03
this
29:03
movie
29:04
could
29:04
have
29:04
been
29:04
where
29:04
Bear
29:05
was
29:05
just
29:05
like.
29:06
He
29:06
was
29:06
like,
29:07
oh,
29:07
she.
29:08
She
29:08
is
29:08
all
29:08
mine
29:09
now.
29:10
And
29:10
it
29:10
kind
29:11
of
29:11
takes
29:11
advantage
29:12
of
29:12
her
29:13
in
29:13
that
29:13
way.
29:14
They
29:14
chose
29:15
to
29:15
not
29:15
do
29:15
that,
29:15
which
29:16
I
29:17
respect
29:17
them
29:17
for
29:18
that.
29:18
No,
29:19
but
29:19
it's
29:21
when
29:21
I
29:22
walked
29:22
out
29:22
of
29:22
the
29:23
theater
29:23
with
29:23
my
29:23
daughters,
29:24
I
29:24
go,
29:25
hey,
29:26
let's
29:26
be
29:26
clear.
29:27
We're
29:27
on
29:27
the
29:27
same
29:28
page,
29:28
right?
29:28
Yes.
29:29
To
29:29
Bear
29:29
was
29:30
the
29:30
bad
29:30
guy,
29:30
right?
29:30
She
29:30
goes,
29:31
oh,
29:31
yeah,
29:31
definitely.
29:31
I'm
29:32
like,
29:32
okay,
29:32
good.
29:32
I
29:33
just
29:33
want
29:33
it
29:33
to
29:33
be
29:33
clear
29:34
here
29:34
that
29:35
Bear
29:35
is
29:35
the
29:35
bad
29:35
guy
29:36
here.
29:38
No,
29:38
and
29:39
you're
29:39
right.
29:39
I
29:39
mean,
29:39
they
29:39
didn't
29:39
make
29:39
it
29:40
cartoonish,
29:40
but,
29:41
like,
29:41
the
29:41
moments
29:42
for
29:42
me
29:42
where
29:42
I
29:42
was
29:43
just
29:43
like
29:43
f.
29:44
Skyware
29:45
were
29:45
when.
29:46
When,
29:46
like,
29:47
well,
29:47
the,
29:47
the
29:48
fur,
29:48
like,
29:48
right
29:49
before.
29:49
Spoiler
29:50
alert.
29:50
But
29:50
right
29:50
before
29:51
Sarah
29:51
dies.
29:53
Like
29:53
in
29:53
that
29:55
scene
29:55
in
29:55
the
29:55
bedroom
29:56
where
29:56
the
29:57
ultimate.
29:58
So
29:58
they're
29:58
like.
29:59
It
29:59
does
29:59
a
29:59
really
29:59
brilliant
30:00
thing
30:00
where
30:01
Nikki,
30:02
like,
30:04
her
30:04
actual
30:05
self
30:05
is
30:06
still
30:06
in
30:06
there,
30:06
but
30:07
she
30:07
can't
30:07
do
30:07
anything.
30:08
She's,
30:08
like,
30:08
trapped.
30:09
And
30:09
yes,
30:10
a
30:10
kind
30:10
of
30:10
demonic
30:11
possession
30:11
kind
30:11
of
30:12
a
30:12
theme
30:12
going
30:12
on
30:13
there.
30:13
Yes,
30:14
yes.
30:15
And
30:15
so,
30:15
like,
30:16
there's
30:16
a
30:16
moment
30:17
there
30:17
when
30:19
Bear
30:19
is
30:20
going
30:20
to
30:20
try
30:20
to
30:20
get
30:21
outside
30:21
and
30:21
meet
30:21
with
30:21
Sarah.
30:22
And
30:22
yeah,
30:23
the
30:23
real
30:23
Nikki
30:24
is
30:24
conscious
30:25
enough
30:25
and
30:26
she
30:26
says
30:26
to
30:26
him,
30:27
like,
30:27
kill
30:27
me.
30:28
Because,
30:28
like,
30:28
hey,
30:29
she's
30:29
asleep
30:29
right
30:30
now.
30:30
Referring
30:30
to,
30:30
like,
30:30
the
30:31
demonics
30:31
there,
30:31
Nikki.
30:32
And
30:33
she's
30:33
like,
30:33
kill
30:34
me
30:34
right
30:34
now.
30:34
And
30:35
his
30:35
response
30:36
is
30:36
like,
30:36
don't
30:37
you.
30:37
Want
30:37
to
30:37
be
30:39
looking
30:39
at
30:39
the
30:39
screen
30:39
at
30:40
him?
30:40
I
30:40
was
30:40
like,
30:40
are
30:41
you.
30:41
Oh,
30:41
my
30:41
gosh.
30:42
Serious?
30:43
Oh,
30:43
my
30:43
gosh,
30:44
dude.
30:45
Like,
30:45
there
30:46
was
30:46
that
30:46
and
30:47
then
30:47
the
30:47
other.
30:48
So
30:48
then,
30:49
of
30:49
course,
30:49
you
30:49
know,
30:49
he
30:49
goes
30:50
out
30:50
to
30:50
talk
30:50
with
30:50
Sarah,
30:51
who,
30:51
by
30:51
the
30:52
way,
30:52
like,
30:53
as
30:53
a.
30:53
Has
30:54
kind
30:54
of
30:54
had
30:54
a
30:54
crush
30:55
on
30:55
him
30:55
too.
30:55
And
30:55
this
30:56
could
30:56
have
30:56
all
30:56
been
30:56
avoided
30:57
if
30:57
he
30:57
had
30:57
just
30:57
like.
30:58
Yes.
30:58
Like,
30:59
I
30:59
mean,
30:59
yeah,
30:59
but
31:00
I
31:00
mean,
31:00
I
31:00
knew
31:01
exactly
31:01
what
31:01
was
31:01
going
31:01
to
31:01
happen
31:02
here.
31:02
It
31:02
did
31:02
not
31:03
make
31:03
it
31:03
any
31:03
less
31:04
unsettling.
31:04
And
31:04
it
31:05
still
31:05
Made
31:05
me
31:05
jump
31:05
because
31:06
it
31:06
was
31:06
such
31:07
an
31:07
effective
31:07
execution.
31:08
But,
31:09
you
31:09
know,
31:09
they
31:09
start
31:10
talking,
31:10
and
31:10
of
31:11
course,
31:11
Nikki
31:12
comes
31:12
out
31:12
and
31:13
not
31:13
just
31:13
kills
31:14
Sarah,
31:15
but
31:15
mutilates
31:16
her.
31:16
I
31:16
saw
31:19
the
31:19
same
31:19
way
31:20
that
31:20
I
31:20
jumped
31:21
when
31:21
the
31:22
alien
31:23
kind
31:23
of
31:23
passed
31:24
by
31:24
at
31:25
that
31:25
birthday
31:25
party
31:26
inside,
31:27
I
31:27
could.
31:27
I
31:28
was
31:28
like,
31:28
good
31:28
God.
31:29
Yeah.
31:30
And
31:30
then
31:30
it
31:30
just
31:30
kept
31:31
going.
31:31
No,
31:31
it
31:31
was.
31:32
It
31:32
just
31:32
kept
31:32
going.
31:33
Yeah,
31:33
I
31:33
was
31:33
like,
31:34
oh,
31:34
no,
31:35
exactly.
31:35
Like,
31:35
you
31:36
knew
31:36
it
31:36
was
31:36
coming,
31:37
but
31:37
it
31:37
was
31:37
so
31:38
visceral
31:38
and
31:39
so,
31:39
like,
31:39
they.
31:39
Oh,
31:40
it
31:40
got
31:40
everyone
31:40
in
31:40
the
31:41
theater,
31:41
I
31:41
was
31:41
into.
31:42
And
31:43
then
31:43
after
31:43
that
31:44
dude,
31:44
he
31:44
goes
31:45
to
31:45
Ian
31:46
after
31:46
he
31:46
doesn't
31:46
even
31:47
tell
31:47
Ian
31:47
that
31:48
Sarah's
31:48
dead.
31:48
I
31:48
was
31:49
like,
31:50
he
31:50
just
31:51
kind
31:51
of.
31:51
Feels
31:52
bad
31:52
for
31:52
what
31:52
he
31:52
did
31:53
there.
31:53
Finally
31:54
feels
31:54
bad,
31:55
and
31:55
then
31:55
he
31:55
kind
31:56
of
31:56
confesses.
31:56
I'm
31:56
like,
31:57
right,
31:57
where
31:57
was
31:57
this
31:58
20
31:58
minutes
31:58
ago,
31:58
30
31:59
minutes
31:59
ago?
31:59
Yes,
32:00
this
32:01
dude.
32:01
But
32:02
the
32:02
way
32:02
they
32:02
play
32:03
this
32:03
movie
32:04
was
32:04
a
32:04
trick.
32:06
Yes.
32:06
I.
32:07
I
32:07
don't
32:08
want
32:08
to
32:08
say
32:08
it,
32:08
but,
32:08
like,
32:09
the
32:10
weak
32:10
male
32:10
where
32:11
he
32:11
just
32:11
like,
32:12
bro,
32:12
have
32:12
some
32:12
balls,
32:13
okay?
32:13
Just
32:14
say
32:14
that
32:14
you
32:14
like
32:14
her.
32:15
Right.
32:15
Or
32:15
say
32:16
this.
32:16
And
32:16
it
32:16
just
32:17
like,
32:17
bro,
32:17
come
32:18
on.
32:18
But
32:18
yet
32:19
I
32:19
do
32:19
empathize
32:19
with
32:20
him,
32:20
too.
32:21
I
32:21
wouldn't
32:22
go
32:22
as
32:22
far,
32:23
I
32:23
don't
32:23
think,
32:24
but
32:24
I
32:25
will.
32:25
I
32:26
would.
32:26
Yeah.
32:27
Yeah.
32:28
Well,
32:28
no,
32:29
I
32:29
think
32:30
what
32:30
the
32:30
movie
32:30
does
32:30
effectively
32:31
is.
32:32
I
32:32
mean.
32:32
No,
32:32
you're
32:33
absolutely,
32:33
like,
32:34
it's
32:34
commenting
32:34
on
32:35
toxic
32:35
masculinity,
32:36
insult,
32:37
all
32:37
of
32:38
that.
32:38
But,
32:38
like,
32:38
what
32:38
it
32:39
does
32:39
effectively
32:39
is
32:40
at
32:40
the
32:40
very
32:40
beginning,
32:41
like,
32:41
okay,
32:41
let's
32:42
be
32:42
like.
32:42
I
32:42
mean,
32:43
the
32:43
wish
32:43
stick
32:43
aside.
32:44
But,
32:44
like,
32:44
we've
32:45
kind
32:45
of
32:45
all
32:45
been
32:45
there
32:46
where
32:46
when
32:46
we
32:46
were
32:47
younger,
32:47
we
32:47
had
32:48
feelings
32:48
for
32:48
someone,
32:49
say
32:49
what
32:49
we
32:49
wanted.
32:49
We
32:50
were
32:50
too
32:50
nervous
32:50
too.
32:51
Right,
32:52
right.
32:52
And
32:52
we
32:52
were
32:52
too
32:53
nervous
32:53
to
32:53
say
32:54
because,
32:54
like,
32:54
we
32:55
didn't
32:55
want
32:55
to
32:55
ruin
32:56
the
32:56
friendship.
32:56
So,
32:57
yeah,
32:57
I
32:57
mean,
32:57
that's
32:58
a
32:58
very
32:58
relatable
32:59
entry,
33:00
but
33:00
it's
33:01
that,
33:01
like,
33:01
everything
33:02
that
33:02
goes
33:02
from
33:02
that
33:02
point
33:03
on,
33:03
and
33:03
that's
33:03
great.
33:03
And
33:04
yes,
33:04
it
33:05
comments
33:05
on.
33:07
Yeah.
33:07
The
33:07
concept
33:08
of,
33:08
like,
33:08
male
33:08
loneliness,
33:10
toxic
33:10
masculinity,
33:11
all
33:11
of
33:12
this.
33:12
And
33:12
I
33:12
think
33:12
it
33:12
does
33:12
it
33:13
very
33:13
effectively.
33:13
And
33:14
it's
33:14
like.
33:15
And,
33:15
yeah,
33:16
no,
33:16
it
33:17
never.
33:17
Like,
33:17
it
33:17
starts
33:18
with
33:18
something
33:18
relatable
33:19
and
33:20
a
33:20
little
33:20
more
33:20
universal
33:21
again
33:21
of
33:21
that,
33:22
like,
33:22
you
33:22
know,
33:22
oh,
33:23
having
33:23
feelings
33:23
for
33:23
someone
33:24
but
33:25
too
33:25
afraid
33:25
to
33:26
just,
33:26
you
33:27
know,
33:27
tell
33:27
them
33:27
the
33:27
truth.
33:29
But
33:29
then
33:29
it
33:30
goes
33:30
into.
33:31
Then
33:31
it
33:31
just
33:31
becomes
33:32
like,
33:32
you
33:32
know,
33:33
he's
33:33
a
33:33
monster
33:34
for
33:35
what
33:35
he's
33:35
doing
33:35
to
33:36
her
33:36
psychologically,
33:37
and.
33:39
And.
33:39
And
33:39
it's
33:39
hurting.
33:40
Not
33:41
like
33:41
her
33:41
and
33:42
everyone
33:42
else
33:42
around
33:43
himself.
33:44
She
33:44
becomes
33:45
this
33:46
obsessive,
33:47
kind
33:47
of,
33:47
pick
33:47
me
33:47
Girl
33:48
to
33:48
the
33:49
point
33:49
of
33:49
just
33:51
self
33:51
mutilation.
33:54
Yeah.
33:55
Causing
33:55
scenes
33:56
in
33:56
public.
33:57
And
33:58
yeah.
33:59
The
33:59
discourse
34:00
online
34:00
is
34:01
crazy
34:01
with
34:02
this
34:02
movie
34:02
because.
34:03
Because
34:04
it's
34:04
wild
34:04
to
34:05
see
34:05
what
34:05
people
34:05
pick
34:05
up
34:06
on.
34:07
And,
34:08
and,
34:09
and
34:10
like
34:10
I
34:11
was
34:11
talking
34:11
to
34:11
my
34:12
wife.
34:12
She's
34:12
a
34:13
therapist
34:14
and
34:14
she
34:15
doesn't
34:15
know
34:16
the,
34:16
the
34:17
spoiler
34:17
part.
34:18
She
34:18
doesn't
34:18
know
34:20
about
34:20
the
34:21
one
34:21
wish
34:21
part,
34:22
but
34:22
she's
34:23
seen
34:23
clips
34:23
and
34:24
stuff
34:24
of
34:25
everything
34:25
else
34:26
and
34:26
she's
34:27
like,
34:27
oh,
34:27
she
34:27
has
34:28
a
34:28
borderline.
34:28
She
34:29
has
34:29
a
34:29
mania.
34:30
I'm
34:30
like,
34:30
yes,
34:31
but
34:31
it's
34:32
not
34:32
her.
34:32
And
34:33
I
34:33
want
34:33
to
34:34
tell
34:34
her
34:34
like,
34:34
it's
34:34
not
34:35
her
34:35
fault.
34:36
Like
34:36
that
34:37
that
34:37
changes
34:38
everything.
34:39
But
34:40
she
34:40
won't
34:40
watch
34:40
it
34:41
because
34:41
she
34:41
hates.
34:41
It's
34:42
a
34:42
horror
34:42
film,
34:42
so.
34:43
And
34:43
I
34:43
don't
34:44
blame
34:44
her.
34:44
I
34:44
don't
34:45
blame
34:45
her
34:45
with
34:45
this
34:45
one.
34:46
I
34:46
don't
34:47
blame
34:47
her.
34:47
Oh,
34:48
and
34:48
I
34:48
mean
34:48
like,
34:49
spider
34:49
noir
34:50
is
34:50
pretty
34:50
fun.
34:50
I
34:50
mean
34:51
like,
34:51
yeah,
34:51
not
34:51
like
34:52
kids
34:52
show,
34:52
but
34:52
like
34:52
it's
34:53
pretty,
34:53
you
34:53
know,
34:54
obsession
34:55
and
34:55
the
34:55
movie
34:55
we're
34:55
gonna
34:55
talk
34:56
about
34:56
after.
34:56
Yeah,
34:57
it's.
34:57
No,
34:57
I.
34:58
It's
34:58
not
34:58
one
34:58
I
34:59
can
34:59
recommend
35:00
to
35:00
everyone
35:00
because
35:01
it's,
35:02
it's
35:02
heavy,
35:02
it's
35:03
unsettling.
35:04
I
35:05
did
35:05
love
35:05
it,
35:05
but.
35:06
But
35:06
if
35:06
you're
35:07
not
35:07
a
35:07
horror
35:07
fan,
35:08
I.
35:09
This
35:09
one,
35:10
I.
35:10
It'll
35:11
make
35:11
you
35:11
squeamish
35:12
and
35:12
terrified
35:12
and
35:13
leave
35:13
you
35:14
with
35:14
nightmares
35:14
for
35:15
however
35:16
long
35:16
to
35:16
come.
35:16
So
35:16
I
35:16
can't
35:17
like
35:17
necessarily
35:17
recommend
35:18
everyone,
35:18
but.
35:19
Oh
35:19
my
35:19
gosh,
35:19
as
35:20
far
35:20
as,
35:20
you
35:20
know,
35:21
like,
35:21
we.
35:21
There's
35:22
this
35:22
kind
35:22
of
35:22
cliche
35:23
term
35:24
now
35:24
called
35:24
like
35:25
elevated
35:25
horror
35:26
where
35:27
it
35:27
is,
35:27
you
35:28
know,
35:28
more
35:29
psychological
35:30
message.
35:31
Right.
35:32
And
35:32
like,
35:32
like,
35:33
like
35:33
it's
35:33
just
35:34
like
35:34
a
35:34
knot
35:35
at
35:35
like
35:35
the,
35:37
like
35:37
the
35:37
A24
35:38
stuff
35:38
and
35:39
like
35:39
the,
35:39
the
35:39
kind
35:40
of
35:40
horror
35:40
that
35:41
isn't
35:41
just
35:41
like
35:42
slashers
35:42
of
35:43
the
35:43
old
35:43
days,
35:44
but
35:44
it's
35:44
like,
35:44
you
35:44
know,
35:45
meant
35:45
to
35:45
really
35:45
say
35:46
something
35:46
about
35:46
humanity.
35:47
But
35:47
this
35:47
definitely
35:48
fits
35:48
into
35:48
that
35:48
and.
35:49
To
35:49
go
35:49
off
35:49
of
35:49
that,
35:50
like,
35:51
right
35:51
when
35:51
he
35:52
walked
35:52
into
35:52
that
35:53
store
35:53
to
35:53
buy
35:53
the
35:54
thing,
35:54
I
35:55
knew
35:55
exactly
35:56
what
35:56
was
35:56
gonna
35:56
happen.
35:57
Like,
35:58
this
35:58
is
36:00
that
36:00
episode
36:01
of
36:01
the
36:03
Simpsons,
36:03
the
36:04
Monkey
36:04
Ball
36:05
that
36:05
they
36:05
were
36:05
spoofing,
36:06
Twilight
36:07
Zone.
36:08
I
36:08
was
36:08
like,
36:08
I
36:08
know.
36:09
I
36:10
know
36:10
exactly
36:10
where
36:10
this
36:11
is
36:11
going
36:11
and
36:11
I
36:12
don't
36:12
think
36:12
I
36:12
like
36:12
it.
36:13
I
36:13
was
36:13
like,
36:14
but
36:14
I'm
36:14
here
36:15
for
36:15
it.
36:15
Come
36:15
on,
36:16
bring
36:16
it
36:16
on.
36:16
And.
36:17
And
36:18
not
36:18
disappoint.
36:19
It
36:19
did
36:19
not
36:20
disappoint
36:20
because
36:21
it's
36:21
basically
36:22
a
36:22
Twilight
36:22
Zone
36:23
episode.
36:23
It's
36:23
a
36:23
cautionary
36:24
tale,
36:24
blah,
36:24
blah,
36:25
blah.
36:25
Yep.
36:26
So.
36:26
But
36:26
they,
36:26
but
36:27
they
36:27
make
36:28
it
36:28
for
36:29
the
36:29
modern
36:30
audience
36:31
and,
36:31
and
36:32
our
36:32
modern
36:32
climate.
36:33
So
36:34
yeah,
36:35
very
36:35
I
36:35
mean,
36:35
and
36:36
it's.
36:36
I
36:36
mean,
36:36
I
36:37
know,
36:37
I'm
36:37
joking
36:38
about
36:38
the
36:38
director
36:38
being
36:39
so
36:39
young.
36:39
How
36:39
do
36:39
you
36:40
have
36:40
all
36:40
that
36:40
life
36:40
experience
36:41
at
36:41
26
36:42
years
36:42
old
36:42
to
36:43
put
36:43
it
36:43
into
36:43
this?
36:44
I
36:44
hope
36:45
he
36:45
wasn't
36:45
abused
36:46
or
36:46
anything.
36:48
I
36:48
hope
36:49
not
36:49
too.
36:50
And
36:50
I
36:51
mean,
36:52
yeah,
36:52
it's
36:52
very
36:53
heavy
36:54
and.
36:54
But
36:54
it's
36:54
all.
36:55
I
36:55
mean,
36:55
I
36:55
think
36:55
like
36:56
if
36:57
you
36:57
are
36:57
from
36:58
the
36:58
generation
36:58
that's
36:59
raised
36:59
on
36:59
the
36:59
Internet,
37:00
even
37:01
if
37:01
you
37:01
haven't
37:01
dealt
37:01
with
37:02
like
37:02
stuff
37:02
by
37:02
yourself
37:02
and
37:03
yeah.
37:03
In
37:03
therapy,
37:03
like
37:04
you
37:04
just
37:04
like
37:04
you
37:05
can
37:05
just,
37:05
you
37:05
know,
37:06
get
37:07
these
37:07
material
37:08
just
37:08
by
37:09
reading
37:09
and
37:09
absorbing
37:10
a
37:10
lot
37:10
of
37:10
and
37:11
like
37:11
seeing
37:11
what
37:11
people
37:11
are
37:12
talking
37:12
about.
37:12
So
37:12
I
37:12
don't.
37:13
Yeah,
37:13
because
37:13
that's
37:13
a
37:14
good
37:14
point
37:14
though.
37:14
I
37:14
haven't
37:14
read
37:15
interviews
37:15
with
37:15
him
37:15
yet,
37:17
but
37:17
I'd
37:18
be
37:18
curious.
37:18
Yeah,
37:19
yeah,
37:19
he
37:19
seems
37:20
really
37:20
young,
37:20
but
37:21
in
37:21
that
37:21
kind
37:21
of
37:22
like
37:23
cinephile
37:23
youngness.
37:24
Yes,
37:25
well,
37:25
and
37:26
also
37:26
just
37:26
like
37:26
the
37:27
craftsmanship
37:28
of
37:28
like,
37:28
that's
37:28
more
37:29
like
37:29
I
37:30
made
37:30
some
37:30
shorts
37:30
in
37:31
college
37:31
and
37:31
stuff
37:31
like
37:31
that,
37:31
but
37:32
like
37:32
I
37:32
said
37:32
26,
37:33
I
37:33
would
37:33
not
37:33
have
37:34
been
37:34
that
37:34
like
37:34
been
37:34
able
37:35
to
37:35
make
37:35
a
37:35
full
37:35
feature.
37:40
Right,
37:40
right,
37:41
right,
37:41
right.
37:42
I
37:42
mean
37:42
the,
37:42
the
37:43
execution
37:44
from
37:44
a
37:44
filmmaking
37:45
standpoint
37:45
and
37:45
like,
37:46
you
37:47
know,
37:47
the
37:47
cleverness
37:48
of
37:48
the
37:48
script,
37:49
the
37:49
execution,
37:50
cinematography,
37:51
it's
37:51
all,
37:51
it's
37:52
just
37:52
wonderfully
37:53
done.
37:53
So.
37:54
So,
37:54
yeah,
37:55
very
37:55
unnerving
37:56
film.
37:56
Not
37:56
one
37:57
you
37:57
just
37:58
go
37:58
to
37:59
relax,
37:59
to
38:00
unwind
38:01
after
38:01
a
38:01
long
38:01
day,
38:02
but
38:02
if
38:03
you're
38:03
in
38:03
for
38:03
a
38:04
wild
38:04
trip
38:05
from
38:05
start
38:05
to
38:05
finish
38:05
and
38:06
again,
38:07
nothing
38:07
but
38:08
prayer
38:08
for
38:08
all
38:08
the
38:08
performances.
38:09
But
38:09
Andy
38:09
Navarre,
38:10
I
38:10
was
38:10
just
38:11
like,
38:11
he
38:11
was
38:11
incredible.
38:12
It
38:12
needs
38:12
to
38:13
be
38:13
in
38:13
Star
38:13
Wars.
38:14
Yeah.
38:15
100.
38:16
Oh,
38:17
wait,
38:17
hey,
38:17
she's
38:18
already
38:18
been
38:18
in
38:18
DC.
38:19
Yeah,
38:19
like
38:19
put
38:20
her
38:20
wherever,
38:21
like
38:21
whatever
38:22
she
38:22
wants
38:22
to
38:23
do
38:23
next.
38:23
I
38:24
let
38:24
her.
38:24
But
38:25
yeah.
38:26
So
38:26
awesome.
38:27
Well,
38:27
now
38:27
we
38:28
have
38:28
another
38:29
horror
38:30
film
38:30
to
38:30
discuss.
38:31
They
38:31
also
38:32
came
38:32
out
38:32
this,
38:33
this
38:33
one
38:33
by
38:33
a
38:34
20
38:34
year
38:35
old
38:37
debut
38:37
feature
38:37
director.
38:39
This
38:39
is
38:39
Back
38:39
Rooms,
38:40
directed
38:41
by
38:41
Kane
38:41
Parsons,
38:43
written
38:43
by
38:43
Will
38:44
Sudik
38:45
and
38:45
also
38:45
Ken
38:46
Parsons,
38:46
based
38:46
on
38:47
his
38:47
YouTube
38:48
channel,
38:49
starring.
38:55
Reigns
38:55
V.
38:56
Okay.
38:56
And
38:56
Mark
38:56
Duplass
38:58
was
38:58
perfect.
38:58
But
38:58
yeah,
38:59
I
38:59
know
38:59
Evan.
39:00
Yeah,
39:00
he
39:01
was,
39:01
he
39:01
really
39:01
was.
39:01
That
39:02
was,
39:02
that
39:02
was
39:02
great.
39:03
Yeah.
39:04
So
39:04
I
39:04
just
39:04
saw
39:04
this
39:05
on
39:05
Saturday.
39:06
Evan,
39:06
you
39:06
want
39:06
to
39:07
give
39:07
a
39:07
little.
39:07
We
39:07
can
39:07
also
39:08
do.
39:09
This
39:09
one
39:09
isn't
39:10
as
39:11
big
39:11
on
39:11
spoilers
39:12
anyway
39:12
because
39:13
like
39:13
it's
39:13
a
39:13
very
39:13
different
39:14
kind
39:14
of
39:15
narrative
39:16
than
39:16
Obsession.
39:17
But
39:17
you
39:17
want
39:17
to
39:17
give
39:18
kind
39:18
of
39:18
an
39:18
overview.
39:19
This
39:20
movie
39:20
is
39:21
a
39:21
film,
39:22
like
39:22
you
39:23
said,
39:23
it's
39:23
based
39:24
off
39:24
of
39:24
Kane's
39:26
YouTube
39:27
channel
39:27
series
39:27
that
39:28
he
39:28
made
39:29
based
39:29
off
39:30
of
39:30
a
39:30
random
39:31
picture
39:32
on
39:32
a
39:32
4chan
39:33
that
39:33
was
39:33
a
39:34
meme
39:34
that
39:35
had
39:35
some
39:35
lore
39:37
that
39:37
is
39:37
also
39:38
kind
39:38
of
39:39
based
39:39
on
39:40
the
39:40
genre
39:40
of
39:41
liminal
39:42
space
39:42
photography
39:43
and
39:44
urban
39:45
exploring.
39:46
So
39:46
there's
39:47
so
39:47
many
39:47
different
39:47
layers
39:48
here.
39:48
When
39:48
I
39:49
heard
39:49
that
39:49
this
39:49
movie
39:50
was
39:50
coming
39:50
out,
39:50
I
39:50
was
39:51
like,
39:51
are
39:51
you
39:52
talking
39:52
about
39:53
the
39:53
abandoned
39:54
movie?
39:54
The
39:55
I
39:55
was
39:55
what?
39:56
And
39:56
then
39:56
I
39:56
looked
39:56
into
39:57
it.
39:57
I
39:57
said,
39:57
yeah,
39:57
it's
39:58
like,
39:58
holy
39:58
cow.
39:59
So
40:00
we
40:00
went
40:00
from
40:01
abandoned
40:02
malls,
40:03
people
40:04
making
40:04
videos
40:05
in
40:05
abandoned
40:06
malls,
40:07
all
40:07
the
40:07
way
40:07
to
40:08
a
40:09
full
40:09
fledged
40:10
psychotic
40:12
thriller
40:12
feature
40:13
film.
40:13
I'm
40:13
like,
40:14
wow,
40:14
what.
40:15
What
40:15
is
40:15
this
40:16
world
40:16
we
40:16
live
40:16
in
40:16
that
40:17
is
40:17
fantastic
40:18
and
40:19
made
40:19
by
40:19
the
40:19
guy
40:20
that
40:20
made
40:20
it
40:20
popular.
40:21
So
40:21
he.
40:22
So
40:22
he
40:23
took
40:23
that
40:23
photo
40:24
that
40:24
had
40:25
just
40:25
a
40:25
caption
40:26
and
40:27
it
40:27
was
40:27
very
40:28
mysterious
40:29
and
40:30
it
40:30
had
40:31
the
40:31
photo.
40:32
It
40:32
was
40:33
very
40:34
liminal
40:34
space
40:35
photo.
40:35
And
40:36
he
40:36
created
40:37
this
40:37
whole
40:37
lore
40:38
about
40:38
it
40:38
where
40:39
I
40:39
didn't
40:39
know
40:39
about
40:39
the
40:40
lore.
40:40
My
40:40
kids
40:40
know
40:41
about
40:41
it.
40:42
They
40:43
love
40:43
it.
40:43
I
40:44
don't
40:44
know
40:44
that
40:44
much
40:44
about
40:44
it.
40:45
I
40:45
saw
40:45
like
40:46
two,
40:46
three
40:47
episodes
40:48
and
40:48
I
40:48
couldn't
40:48
go
40:48
back
40:49
to
40:49
it.
40:49
But
40:50
they
40:50
constantly
40:51
talk
40:51
about
40:51
it
40:51
with
40:51
their
40:52
friends.
40:52
So
40:52
they
40:52
are
40:53
in
40:53
it
40:53
and
40:54
I
40:54
just
40:54
know
40:55
it
40:55
from
40:55
the
40:56
photo
40:56
from
40:56
like
40:57
20
40:57
years
40:57
ago.
40:58
But
40:59
what
40:59
it
40:59
is
40:59
is
41:00
that
41:00
it's
41:01
a.
41:07
Man
41:07
played
41:08
by
41:08
Chitwell,
41:09
that
41:10
he's
41:11
going
41:11
to
41:11
a
41:11
therapist
41:12
played
41:13
by
41:14
Rene.
41:15
And
41:15
he
41:16
just
41:16
went
41:16
through
41:17
a
41:17
divorce
41:18
and
41:18
he
41:18
owns
41:19
a
41:21
furniture
41:21
store,
41:22
but
41:22
he's
41:22
a
41:23
architect,
41:24
so
41:24
he's
41:25
kind
41:25
of.
41:25
He's.
41:26
He's
41:26
kind
41:26
of
41:26
stuck
41:27
in
41:27
a
41:27
rut.
41:27
He
41:28
went
41:28
through
41:28
the
41:29
divorce
41:29
and
41:30
apparently
41:31
it
41:31
was
41:31
a
41:31
very
41:31
bad
41:31
divorce.
41:32
And
41:32
he's
41:33
going
41:33
to
41:33
the
41:33
therapist
41:34
for
41:34
help
41:35
and
41:36
he.
41:37
And
41:37
then
41:37
he
41:37
owns
41:38
this
41:38
furniture
41:39
store.
41:39
That's.
41:40
That
41:40
no
41:41
one
41:41
shows
41:41
up.
41:42
He
41:42
only
41:42
has
41:42
two
41:43
different
41:43
employees.
41:44
And
41:45
it's
41:45
kind
41:46
of
41:46
like
41:47
he's
41:48
very
41:48
frustrated
41:49
with
41:49
where
41:49
he
41:50
is.
41:50
And
41:51
through
41:51
a
41:52
series
41:52
of
41:52
events
41:54
he
41:54
finds
41:54
out
41:55
there's
41:55
a
41:55
portal
41:56
to
41:56
this,
41:57
what
41:57
seems
41:58
like
41:58
a
41:58
never
41:59
ending
41:59
room
42:00
inside
42:01
of
42:01
his
42:01
furniture
42:02
store.
42:03
And
42:04
things
42:06
happen.
42:07
They
42:08
showcase
42:08
the
42:09
tropes
42:10
of
42:10
the
42:11
liminal
42:11
space
42:12
with
42:12
the
42:13
abandoned
42:14
a
42:14
film
42:15
and
42:15
the
42:16
abandoned
42:17
rooms.
42:18
And
42:18
they
42:18
play
42:18
with
42:19
a
42:19
supernatural
42:20
feeling.
42:21
And.
42:22
And
42:23
it's
42:23
very
42:24
interesting
42:25
how
42:25
they
42:26
switch
42:26
from
42:26
the
42:27
omniscient
42:28
camera
42:28
view
42:29
to
42:29
the
42:30
found
42:30
footage
42:30
camera
42:31
view.
42:31
They're
42:31
very
42:31
smart
42:32
in
42:33
how
42:33
they
42:33
want
42:34
to
42:34
switch
42:34
and
42:34
to
42:35
see
42:35
what
42:36
they
42:36
want
42:36
to
42:36
tell.
42:37
And
42:38
this
42:38
becomes
42:39
a
42:40
allegory
42:41
for
42:42
mental
42:42
health.
42:43
And
42:44
what
42:44
we
42:45
know
42:45
is
42:46
that
42:46
you
42:47
like
42:47
try.
42:48
It's
42:50
that
42:50
a
42:50
bible
42:51
verse
42:51
of
42:51
like
42:52
try
42:52
to
42:52
capture
42:53
your
42:53
thoughts.
42:55
That's
42:56
kind
42:56
of
42:56
what
42:56
I
42:56
took
42:56
from
42:57
it.
42:57
Like
42:58
this
42:58
is
42:59
how
42:59
you
43:00
deal
43:00
with
43:01
your
43:01
mental
43:01
health
43:02
when
43:02
you
43:03
when
43:03
you
43:04
suffer
43:04
from
43:04
like,
43:07
manic
43:07
depression
43:08
and
43:08
OCD
43:09
and,
43:10
and
43:11
things
43:11
that
43:11
just
43:12
kind
43:12
of
43:12
get,
43:12
get,
43:13
get
43:14
away
43:14
from
43:14
you
43:14
and
43:14
when
43:15
they,
43:15
when
43:16
they
43:16
are
43:16
not
43:16
taken
43:17
care
43:17
of
43:17
properly,
43:18
they
43:18
can
43:19
come
43:19
back
43:19
and
43:20
affect
43:21
you.
43:21
And
43:23
so
43:23
that
43:24
allegory
43:25
for
43:25
that.
43:25
So
43:26
hopefully
43:26
that
43:26
made
43:26
sense.
43:28
That
43:28
was
43:28
really
43:28
eloquently
43:29
put.
43:29
I
43:30
mean,
43:30
because
43:30
I,
43:30
that
43:30
was
43:30
the
43:30
thing.
43:31
So
43:31
like,
43:31
I,
43:31
I
43:32
came
43:32
in
43:33
knowing
43:33
next
43:33
to
43:34
nothing
43:34
about
43:35
the
43:35
loremoth.
43:36
I
43:36
almost
43:36
like,
43:36
I,
43:36
I
43:37
came
43:37
in
43:37
this
43:37
movie,
43:37
I
43:37
was
43:38
like,
43:38
hey,
43:38
is
43:38
this
43:38
like
43:38
what
43:39
normal
43:39
people
43:39
feel
43:40
like
43:40
when
43:40
they
43:40
go
43:40
into
43:41
a
43:41
DC
43:41
Marvel
43:42
Star
43:42
wars
43:42
movie?
43:42
You
43:43
know,
43:43
like,
43:43
and
43:43
they
43:44
don't
43:44
have
43:44
all
43:44
the
43:45
like,
43:45
you
43:45
know,
43:45
like,
43:46
lore
43:46
and
43:47
mythology
43:47
stuck
43:48
in
43:48
their
43:48
heads?
43:48
Like,
43:48
I
43:49
do,
43:49
but,
43:50
but
43:50
yeah,
43:51
I
43:51
mean
43:51
that.
43:51
And
43:52
so,
43:52
like,
43:52
I'll
43:53
say
43:53
about
43:53
this
43:53
movie,
43:54
like,
43:54
I,
43:54
I
43:54
can't
43:55
say
43:55
I
43:55
enjoyed
43:55
it
43:56
as
43:56
much.
43:56
Like,
43:56
I
43:56
thought
43:57
it
43:57
was
43:57
a
43:57
really
43:57
interesting
43:58
concept.
43:58
I
43:58
love
43:59
how
43:59
you
43:59
described
43:59
it
43:59
there.
44:00
That
44:00
actually
44:00
helped
44:00
me.
44:02
I
44:02
did
44:02
leave
44:03
to
44:03
take
44:03
this
44:03
film.
44:03
Though,
44:04
but
44:04
that's
44:04
the
44:04
one
44:04
that
44:05
I,
44:05
I
44:05
walked
44:05
away.
44:06
Yeah,
44:07
right,
44:07
right.
44:07
And
44:08
I,
44:08
and
44:08
I
44:08
like
44:08
that
44:09
because
44:09
I,
44:09
I
44:10
like
44:10
this
44:10
concept
44:10
of
44:11
like
44:11
the
44:11
subliminal
44:12
spaces.
44:12
And
44:12
I
44:13
think
44:13
about
44:13
that
44:13
even
44:14
with
44:14
my,
44:15
like
44:15
the
44:15
way
44:15
my
44:16
brain
44:17
goes
44:17
down
44:18
various
44:19
loopholes.
44:19
And
44:20
I
44:20
think
44:20
we
44:20
all
44:20
have
44:21
sort
44:21
of
44:21
a
44:21
Alice
44:22
in
44:22
Wonderland
44:23
kind
44:23
of
44:23
in
44:23
that.
44:23
Like,
44:23
I
44:23
mean,
44:23
we
44:24
have,
44:24
you
44:24
know,
44:25
like,
44:25
I
44:25
mean,
44:25
it's
44:26
like
44:26
the
44:26
expression
44:26
of
44:26
like,
44:27
I've
44:27
lost
44:27
my
44:27
train
44:28
of
44:28
thought,
44:28
you
44:28
know,
44:29
goes
44:29
in
44:29
a
44:29
million
44:29
directions.
44:30
And
44:30
that's
44:31
what
44:31
this
44:31
was
44:31
exploring.
44:33
Granted,
44:33
it
44:33
made
44:34
for.
44:35
It's
44:35
for
44:35
me
44:36
an
44:36
unnerving
44:37
cinematic
44:38
experience,
44:38
which
44:38
I
44:39
also
44:39
think
44:39
was
44:40
kind
44:40
of
44:40
the
44:40
intention,
44:42
but.
44:42
And
44:42
so
44:43
that's
44:43
why
44:43
I
44:43
wasn't,
44:43
you
44:44
know,
44:44
K
44:44
was
44:45
like
44:45
having
44:45
a
44:45
great
44:46
time.
44:46
And
44:46
I
44:47
know
44:47
this
44:47
was
44:47
not
44:47
meant
44:48
to
44:48
be
44:49
a
44:49
straightforward
44:50
narrative
44:50
film,
44:50
like
44:51
Obsession,
44:52
you
44:52
know,
44:52
very
44:52
straightforward
44:53
narrative.
44:53
It's
44:54
like
44:54
the
44:54
guy
44:54
gets
44:54
the,
44:55
the
44:55
wish
44:55
dick.
44:55
He
44:56
makes,
44:56
like,
44:56
wish
44:57
goes
44:58
down
44:58
after
44:58
that.
44:59
And
45:00
so
45:00
it
45:00
was
45:00
just
45:01
like,
45:01
you
45:01
know,
45:01
very
45:02
straightforward.
45:03
And
45:03
it
45:03
was.
45:03
Right,
45:04
this
45:04
one,
45:04
like
45:05
you
45:05
said,
45:05
it's
45:05
like,
45:05
yeah,
45:05
there
45:06
was
45:06
the
45:06
element
45:07
of
45:08
so
45:08
much,
45:08
of
45:09
course,
45:09
character
45:10
being
45:10
divorced,
45:11
he
45:11
hates
45:11
his
45:11
life,
45:12
and
45:12
as
45:12
a
45:12
therapist
45:13
and
45:13
then
45:13
he
45:13
goes
45:14
down
45:14
this
45:14
rabbit
45:14
hole.
45:15
I,
45:16
I
45:16
granted,
45:16
I
45:17
do
45:17
think
45:17
even
45:18
with
45:18
all
45:18
that,
45:18
like
45:18
the,
45:19
the
45:19
mythology
45:20
and
45:20
all
45:20
of
45:20
the
45:22
concepts
45:22
here
45:22
being
45:22
really
45:22
interested,
45:23
I
45:23
do
45:23
think
45:24
the
45:24
characters
45:24
could
45:25
have
45:25
been
45:25
written
45:25
better.
45:25
Like,
45:26
I
45:26
mean,
45:26
she
45:26
went
45:26
to
45:26
H4.
45:27
Great
45:27
actor,
45:28
but
45:28
I
45:28
don't
45:28
think
45:28
he
45:28
had
45:29
a
45:29
ton
45:29
of
45:29
material
45:29
to
45:30
work
45:30
with.
45:30
Like,
45:30
it
45:30
was
45:30
pretty
45:31
much.
45:31
It
45:31
was
45:31
a
45:31
pretty
45:31
one
45:32
note
45:32
Inter
45:32
and
45:33
same
45:33
with
45:33
the
45:33
therapist.
45:34
Like,
45:34
I
45:34
didn't
45:34
really
45:34
learn
45:35
anything
45:35
about
45:35
her.
45:36
So
45:36
for
45:36
me
45:37
that
45:37
made
45:37
it
45:37
hard
45:38
because
45:38
I
45:38
like,
45:39
that's
45:39
really
45:40
the
45:40
type
45:40
of
45:40
horror
45:41
I
45:41
love
45:41
the
45:41
most
45:42
is
45:42
whatever
45:43
the
45:43
concept
45:43
is.
45:44
I
45:44
want
45:44
to
45:44
be
45:45
connected
45:45
to
45:45
the
45:45
characters
45:46
in
45:46
some
45:46
fashion
45:47
and
45:47
I
45:47
felt
45:47
that
45:48
an
45:48
obsession
45:48
because
45:48
like
45:48
I
45:49
was,
45:49
I
45:49
really
45:50
felt
45:50
for
45:50
Nikki,
45:50
for
45:51
instance,
45:51
you
45:51
know,
45:51
I
45:52
felt
45:52
for
45:52
Sarah
45:53
Bear.
45:53
I
45:53
was
45:53
like,
45:54
okay,
45:54
go
45:54
screw
45:54
this
45:54
guy.
45:55
But,
45:56
but,
45:56
but,
45:56
you
45:57
know,
45:57
I
45:57
had
45:57
that
45:57
like,
45:57
you
45:58
know,
45:58
direct
45:58
connection
45:59
to
45:59
the
45:59
characters.
46:00
Whereas
46:00
here
46:00
it
46:00
was
46:01
like,
46:01
okay,
46:01
it
46:02
was
46:02
more
46:02
interested
46:03
in
46:03
the
46:04
concepts
46:04
than
46:05
it
46:05
was
46:05
them
46:06
and
46:06
fleshing
46:06
them
46:07
out.
46:07
So
46:08
I
46:08
think
46:08
that
46:08
would
46:08
be
46:09
my
46:09
main
46:09
criticism
46:10
here.
46:11
So
46:11
still
46:11
really
46:12
fascinating
46:12
concept.
46:13
And
46:13
again,
46:14
I
46:14
mean,
46:14
for
46:14
a
46:14
20
46:14
year
46:15
old
46:15
director,
46:15
like
46:16
to
46:16
do
46:16
this,
46:16
that's
46:17
incredible.
46:17
I
46:18
just
46:18
can't
46:19
imagine.
46:19
Dude,
46:20
I
46:20
was,
46:20
I
46:20
mean,
46:20
in
46:21
College
46:21
at
46:21
20.
46:22
Good
46:22
gosh.
46:22
I
46:23
was,
46:23
you
46:23
know,
46:23
like,
46:24
I
46:24
mean,
46:25
spending
46:25
my
46:25
money
46:26
on
46:26
pizza
46:27
and
46:27
comic
46:27
books
46:27
and
46:28
I
46:28
made
46:28
a
46:28
few
46:29
shorts
46:29
and
46:29
stuff.
46:29
But
46:30
yeah,
46:30
I
46:30
could
46:30
write
46:31
essays
46:31
and
46:31
stuff
46:32
at
46:32
the
46:32
last
46:32
minute.
46:32
But
46:33
that
46:33
was
46:33
about
46:33
my.
46:34
I
46:35
wonder
46:35
how
46:37
the
46:38
first
46:38
day
46:39
of
46:39
the
46:39
shoot
46:39
went
46:41
and
46:43
the
46:44
cast
46:44
and
46:44
crew
46:44
was
46:44
like,
46:45
wait
46:45
a
46:45
minute,
46:45
minute.
46:45
He's
46:46
the
46:46
director.
46:47
Like,
46:47
wait
46:48
a
46:48
minute.
46:48
I
46:48
know,
46:48
right?
46:49
He's
46:49
a
46:50
kid,
46:50
dude.
46:50
He's,
46:51
he's
46:52
directing
46:52
like
46:52
so804,
46:54
who
46:54
has
46:54
been
46:54
in
46:54
a
46:55
Best
46:55
Picture.
46:55
He's,
46:56
he's,
46:57
you
46:57
know.
46:57
Yeah.
46:59
Agent
47:00
Callous.
47:01
Wait,
47:01
no,
47:02
wait,
47:02
yeah,
47:02
yeah,
47:02
yeah,
47:03
yeah,
47:03
yeah.
47:03
No,
47:04
no,
47:04
sorry,
47:04
I
47:05
don't
47:05
think
47:05
he
47:05
is.
47:05
No,
47:06
but
47:06
he's,
47:06
I
47:07
mean,
47:07
like,
47:07
but
47:08
in
47:08
Doctor
47:08
Strange
47:10
he's
47:11
Karen
47:11
Mordo
47:12
and
47:13
he's
47:13
been
47:13
in
47:13
like,
47:13
like
47:13
American
47:14
gangster,
47:14
12
47:15
Years
47:15
a
47:15
Slave,
47:15
like
47:16
a
47:16
bunch
47:16
of
47:17
stuff.
47:17
But
47:18
Talis.
47:19
Yeah,
47:19
I'm
47:19
not
47:19
sure
47:20
but
47:21
like,
47:21
yeah,
47:22
yeah,
47:22
yeah,
47:23
yeah,
47:23
yeah,
47:23
that's.
47:23
But
47:24
he
47:24
should
47:24
be
47:24
in
47:24
Star
47:24
wars
47:25
though.
47:25
That
47:25
would
47:25
be
47:25
great.
47:27
But,
47:28
but
47:28
yeah,
47:28
I
47:28
did
47:28
see
47:29
in
47:29
the
47:29
credits
47:29
like.
47:30
Yeah,
47:30
well,
47:30
James
47:31
Juan
47:31
was
47:31
a
47:31
producer.
47:32
Um,
47:33
Sean
47:33
Levy
47:33
was
47:34
as
47:34
well.
47:34
So
47:34
I
47:35
mean,
47:35
yeah,
47:35
I
47:35
mean
47:35
he
47:35
definitely
47:36
had
47:36
like
47:36
mentors
47:37
there.
47:37
But
47:38
nonetheless,
47:38
I
47:38
mean,
47:39
he's
47:39
still,
47:39
you
47:39
know,
47:40
like
47:40
the
47:40
lead
47:40
here
47:41
and,
47:41
and,.
47:42
And
47:43
all
47:43
these
47:43
special
47:44
effects
47:44
and
47:45
building
47:45
that
47:46
practical
47:46
set,
47:46
I
47:47
think
47:47
it
47:47
was
47:47
what,
47:47
like
47:48
30,
47:48
000
47:48
square
47:49
feet?
47:49
I
47:49
heard
47:50
they
47:50
built.
47:51
I
47:51
was
47:51
like,
47:52
yeah,
47:53
that's
47:54
wild.
47:54
Yeah,
47:55
and
47:55
it
47:55
was
47:56
wild.
47:56
See,
47:56
like,
47:56
I
47:57
mean
47:57
the
47:57
opening
47:57
scene
47:58
shows
47:58
the
47:58
little
47:59
tease
47:59
of
47:59
it,
47:59
but
47:59
once
47:59
they
48:00
actually
48:00
get
48:00
into,
48:01
you
48:01
know,
48:01
like
48:01
you
48:01
said,
48:02
the
48:02
portal
48:02
and
48:02
the
48:02
rooms
48:03
and
48:03
like,
48:03
and
48:03
they
48:04
do
48:04
the
48:04
stuff
48:04
with
48:04
like
48:05
the
48:05
Christmas
48:05
scene
48:06
with
48:06
like
48:06
the
48:06
memories
48:06
of
48:07
the
48:07
Christmas
48:07
Tree.
48:07
And
48:07
like,
48:08
again,
48:08
all
48:08
these
48:08
like
48:09
spaces
48:09
in
48:09
our
48:10
mind
48:10
that
48:10
occupy
48:12
it
48:12
brought
48:12
them.
48:12
I
48:13
mean,
48:13
like
48:13
it.
48:13
What's
48:13
fascinating,
48:14
like
48:14
when
48:14
we
48:14
think
48:14
about
48:15
like,
48:16
if
48:16
you
48:16
ever
48:16
get
48:16
the
48:17
question
48:17
of
48:17
like,
48:17
what's
48:17
your
48:17
earliest
48:18
memory?
48:18
You
48:18
know,
48:19
like,
48:19
I
48:19
don't
48:19
know
48:19
what
48:19
my
48:20
earliest
48:20
memory
48:20
is,
48:20
but
48:21
it's
48:21
really
48:22
weird.
48:23
What
48:23
do
48:23
you
48:23
remember?
48:24
Childhood.
48:24
I
48:25
know
48:25
how
48:25
I
48:25
feel.
48:26
Yes,
48:26
you
48:26
can
48:27
feel
48:27
it,
48:27
but
48:27
I
48:27
don't
48:28
remember
48:28
it.
48:28
Yeah.
48:30
Yeah.
48:30
Yes.
48:31
So
48:31
I
48:31
think
48:31
the
48:32
film
48:32
really
48:32
captured
48:33
that.
48:35
Yeah.
48:35
So
48:35
for
48:35
me,
48:36
yes,
48:36
it
48:36
is
48:37
a
48:37
more
48:37
atmospheric
48:38
film.
48:38
It's
48:38
more
48:38
about
48:38
feeling,
48:39
more
48:39
about
48:40
aesthetic.
48:41
But.
48:42
And
48:42
I,
48:42
I
48:43
would
48:43
be
48:43
interested
48:43
in
48:43
seeing
48:44
what
48:45
he
48:45
does
48:45
next
48:46
and
48:47
I
48:47
hope
48:47
for
48:48
a
48:48
more
48:48
fleshed
48:48
out
48:49
narrative
48:49
personally,
48:50
but
48:50
I,
48:51
but
48:51
I
48:51
appreciate
48:52
the
48:52
ambition
48:52
and
48:53
I'm
48:53
glad
48:53
I
48:53
saw
48:53
it.
48:54
It
48:54
wasn't
48:54
like
48:54
my
48:54
favorite
48:55
personally,
48:56
but
48:56
I,
48:57
but
48:57
I'm
48:57
like,
48:58
hey,
48:58
I,
48:58
I'm
48:59
all
48:59
for
48:59
more
49:00
inventive,
49:01
ambitious
49:02
films
49:02
like
49:02
this.
49:03
Yeah.
49:03
Because
49:04
me,
49:05
yeah,
49:05
my
49:06
and
49:06
my
49:06
kids
49:06
were
49:07
talking
49:07
about
49:07
it
49:07
and
49:08
oh
49:08
yeah,
49:09
halfway
49:10
through
49:11
I
49:11
remembered
49:12
that
49:12
the
49:12
film
49:12
was,
49:13
was
49:13
a
49:14
rated
49:14
R.
49:14
And
49:14
I'm
49:14
like,
49:15
oh,
49:16
there's
49:16
nothing
49:16
wrong
49:17
with
49:17
this
49:17
film.
49:17
Like,
49:18
why
49:18
is
49:18
it
49:18
called?
49:19
Why
49:19
is
49:19
it
49:19
rated
49:20
R?
49:21
Because
49:21
I
49:21
was
49:21
with
49:21
my
49:21
kids
49:22
and
49:22
then
49:22
I
49:22
was
49:22
like,
49:23
right
49:23
then
49:24
is
49:25
where
49:25
he
49:25
scalpels
49:26
them.
49:27
And
49:27
I
49:27
was
49:27
like,
49:27
oh,
49:28
this
49:28
is
49:28
why
49:28
it's
49:28
rated
49:29
R.
49:29
Okay,
49:29
my
49:29
bad.
49:31
There
49:31
it
49:31
is.
49:32
So,
49:33
but,
49:33
but
49:34
yeah,
49:34
my
49:34
daughter
49:35
was
49:36
saying
49:36
that
49:36
for
49:36
her,
49:37
the
49:38
found
49:38
footage
49:39
feel
49:40
and
49:41
was
49:41
very
49:42
scary.
49:42
I'm
49:42
like,
49:43
that's.
49:43
It's
49:43
not
49:44
scary
49:44
to
49:44
me.
49:45
To
49:45
me
49:46
that's
49:46
so
49:47
nostalgic.
49:47
That's
49:48
like
49:48
my,
49:51
that's
49:51
how
49:52
I
49:52
remember
49:53
trips
49:53
to
49:53
Disney
49:54
as
49:54
a
49:54
kid.
49:54
You
49:54
know,
49:55
it's
49:55
like
49:56
so
49:56
that
49:56
twisted
49:58
a
49:58
lot
49:58
of
49:58
things
49:59
for
49:59
me.
49:59
I
49:59
was
49:59
just
49:59
like,
50:00
I
50:00
don't
50:00
know
50:00
how
50:00
to
50:00
take
50:00
this.
50:01
It's
50:01
so
50:01
unnerving,
50:02
but
50:03
yet
50:03
it's
50:03
so
50:03
nostalgic
50:04
for
50:04
something
50:05
I
50:05
don't
50:05
know
50:06
about.
50:06
It's
50:06
so
50:07
weird.
50:07
And
50:08
I'm
50:09
a
50:09
big
50:09
fan
50:09
of
50:10
Abandoned
50:11
Videos
50:12
of
50:12
the
50:13
Bright
50:13
sun
50:13
films
50:14
and,
50:15
and,
50:16
and
50:16
even
50:16
Adam
50:17
the
50:17
Woo,
50:18
he
50:18
was
50:18
a
50:18
big
50:19
into
50:19
that
50:19
kind
50:19
of
50:20
stuff
50:20
and
50:20
the
50:20
whole,
50:21
and
50:21
the
50:21
whole
50:22
Disney
50:22
side
50:22
of
50:22
this
50:22
stuff,
50:24
urban
50:24
exploring,
50:25
it's
50:25
so
50:25
cool.
50:26
But
50:28
what
50:28
I
50:28
respect
50:29
is
50:29
the
50:30
restraint
50:31
from
50:32
the
50:32
director
50:33
because
50:34
the
50:35
show,
50:35
his
50:36
series
50:36
has
50:37
so
50:37
much
50:37
lore
50:38
behind
50:38
it.
50:38
Like
50:40
I've
50:40
looked
50:40
into
50:41
it.
50:41
It's
50:41
like
50:42
you
50:42
could
50:42
write
50:43
encyclopedias
50:44
on
50:44
it.
50:44
It's
50:44
almost
50:45
like
50:45
a
50:45
Star
50:46
wars
50:46
canon
50:46
by
50:47
now.
50:47
It's.
50:48
It's
50:48
so
50:49
deep.
50:49
And
50:50
the
50:50
fact
50:50
that
50:50
he
50:51
just
50:51
kind
50:51
of
50:51
touched
50:52
on
50:52
it
50:52
here
50:53
and
50:53
he
50:53
just
50:53
kind
50:54
of,
50:54
like,
50:55
set
50:55
that
50:56
allegory
50:57
of
50:57
you
50:58
would
50:58
never
50:58
know
50:59
the
50:59
whole
51:00
thing.
51:00
You
51:00
would
51:00
just
51:01
learn
51:01
piece
51:01
by
51:02
piece
51:02
by
51:03
the
51:06
Mark
51:06
Duplass
51:08
character.
51:11
We
51:11
find
51:11
out
51:11
that
51:12
this
51:12
place
51:15
is
51:15
kind
51:16
of
51:16
a
51:16
corporation,
51:17
and
51:17
they're
51:18
trying
51:18
to
51:18
figure
51:18
out
51:19
these
51:19
different
51:19
portals,
51:21
and
51:21
it
51:21
plays
51:22
with
51:22
memories
51:23
and
51:23
stuff
51:23
like
51:24
that.
51:24
So
51:25
I
51:25
respect
51:26
favorite
51:26
strain
51:27
in
51:27
that.
51:27
And
51:28
that
51:28
is.
51:28
I
51:28
mean,
51:28
yeah,
51:29
when
51:29
you.
51:29
Especially
51:29
when
51:29
you've,
51:30
like,
51:30
created
51:30
this
51:30
mythology
51:31
and.
51:32
And
51:32
it's,
51:32
you
51:32
know,
51:33
prime
51:33
material
51:33
for
51:34
a
51:34
lot
51:34
of
51:34
short
51:35
films,
51:35
it
51:35
could
51:35
be
51:35
easy
51:35
to,
51:36
like,
51:36
try
51:36
to
51:36
cram
51:37
as
51:37
much
51:37
of
51:37
that
51:37
into
51:37
a
51:38
feature.
51:38
But
51:39
that's
51:39
a
51:39
good
51:39
point.
51:40
I
51:40
mean,
51:40
you
51:40
know,
51:40
and.
51:41
And
51:41
it
51:41
did
51:42
make
51:42
me
51:42
want
51:42
to
51:42
go
51:43
kind
51:43
of
51:43
look
51:43
into
51:44
this
51:44
deeper
51:44
and
51:44
see,
51:45
you
51:45
know,
51:45
what
51:46
the
51:46
appeal
51:46
was
51:47
and
51:47
where,
51:48
you
51:48
know,
51:48
what
51:49
the
51:49
fan
51:49
base
51:49
is
51:49
saying.
51:50
So.
51:50
Yeah.
51:50
Yeah,
51:50
that's
51:51
really
51:51
cool.
51:52
Also,
51:53
oh,
51:53
did
51:53
you
51:53
see
51:54
the
51:54
Instagram
51:55
meme
51:55
I
51:55
posted
51:56
earlier
51:56
where
51:57
it
51:57
was
51:58
like,
51:58
Disney
51:59
trying
51:59
to
51:59
figure
51:59
out
52:00
how,
52:00
like,
52:00
two
52:01
indie
52:01
horror
52:02
films
52:02
beat
52:02
out
52:02
the
52:02
latest
52:03
Star
52:03
wars?
52:03
And
52:03
it
52:04
had
52:04
open
52:04
eyes.
52:05
Dane
52:05
was
52:05
like,
52:05
Tony
52:06
Stark
52:06
was
52:06
able
52:07
to
52:07
build
52:07
this
52:07
in
52:08
a
52:08
cave
52:08
with
52:08
it,
52:08
which.
52:09
Which,
52:09
like,
52:10
the
52:10
irony
52:10
of
52:10
that
52:11
was
52:11
like,
52:11
that
52:12
comes
52:12
from
52:12
the
52:12
first
52:13
Iron
52:13
man,
52:13
which
52:14
John
52:14
Favreau
52:14
dropped
52:15
it.
52:15
So
52:15
it's
52:15
kind
52:16
of
52:16
like.
52:16
Yeah,
52:16
it's
52:17
is
52:18
wild.
52:18
But,
52:19
yeah,
52:19
I
52:19
mean,
52:20
like.
52:20
But
52:20
I
52:21
mean,
52:21
hey,
52:21
I
52:21
mean,
52:22
like,
52:22
I.
52:22
I
52:22
mean,
52:22
I'm
52:23
going
52:23
to
52:23
see
52:23
Mandalorian
52:24
again
52:24
on
52:24
Sunday
52:25
to
52:25
take
52:25
my
52:25
niece
52:25
and
52:25
nephew.
52:27
But
52:27
I
52:28
am,
52:28
like,
52:28
really
52:29
happy
52:29
that
52:30
these
52:30
two
52:30
films
52:31
that
52:31
were.
52:32
Have
52:32
done
52:32
so
52:33
well
52:33
and
52:33
have
52:34
defied
52:34
all
52:34
expectations
52:35
and
52:35
are
52:35
challenging.
52:36
Check
52:36
out
52:36
our
52:37
social
52:37
rules.
52:37
I've
52:38
been
52:38
sharing
52:38
a
52:39
lot
52:39
of
52:39
memes
52:39
I've
52:39
been
52:40
making
52:40
from.
52:41
Yes,
52:41
yes.
52:42
From
52:43
these.
52:43
From
52:44
these
52:44
films
52:45
and.
52:45
And
52:45
from
52:47
Spider
52:47
noir
52:47
is
52:48
prime
52:48
for
52:48
so
52:49
many
52:49
memes.
52:49
There's
52:50
so
52:50
many
52:50
perfect.
52:51
Dude,
52:51
the.
52:52
The
52:52
line
52:53
about
52:53
old
52:53
hot
52:54
dogs,
52:55
the
52:56
cheesecake.
52:56
It
52:57
was
52:57
like,
52:57
what?
52:58
Yep.
52:59
Cool.
53:00
All
53:00
right.
53:00
It
53:01
was
53:01
perfect.
53:02
Yes.
53:02
Evan
53:02
is
53:03
the
53:03
master
53:03
of
53:03
memes.
53:04
And
53:04
if
53:04
you
53:04
are
53:05
new
53:05
to
53:05
systematic
53:05
ecology,
53:06
follow
53:06
us
53:06
on
53:06
Social,
53:07
because
53:07
you're
53:08
gonna
53:08
find
53:08
some
53:08
great
53:09
ones
53:09
on
53:09
there.
53:10
But,
53:10
yeah,
53:10
awesome.
53:11
Well,
53:11
Evan,
53:12
anything
53:12
else
53:12
you
53:12
want
53:12
to
53:13
say
53:13
about
53:13
backrooms
53:13
before?
53:14
They
53:14
should
53:14
make
53:15
it
53:15
up
53:15
a
53:16
sequel
53:16
called
53:17
Gardens,
53:17
and
53:18
it's
53:19
just
53:19
a
53:19
bunch
53:19
of
53:20
abandoned
53:22
Target
53:24
garden
53:24
centers.
53:26
Oh,
53:26
that
53:27
sounds
53:27
interesting.
53:28
Yeah,
53:28
I
53:29
like
53:29
it.
53:29
Okay.
53:30
Yeah,
53:30
I
53:30
mean,
53:30
I.
53:31
I'm
53:31
really
53:31
a
53:31
bit.
53:31
Well,
53:32
both
53:33
cool
53:33
if
53:33
they
53:33
don't
53:34
do.
53:34
A
53:34
sequel
53:34
to
53:34
this
53:35
because
53:35
it's
53:36
so.
53:37
That's
53:37
true.
53:37
Yeah,
53:37
I
53:37
think
53:37
it's
53:38
tight
53:38
enough,
53:39
regardless
53:40
of
53:40
whatever
53:40
Kane
53:40
Parsons
53:41
and
53:41
Curry
53:42
Barker
53:42
do
53:42
next?
53:42
I'm
53:43
all
53:43
here
53:43
for
53:43
it.
53:44
I
53:44
want
53:44
to
53:44
see
53:44
same
53:44
where
53:45
these
53:45
guys
53:45
go
53:45
from
53:45
here.
53:46
So.
53:46
Yeah,
53:47
yeah,
53:47
right
53:48
on.
53:48
Well,
53:48
I've
53:48
been
53:49
wrapping
53:49
up
53:49
here.
53:50
Think
53:50
about
53:51
the
53:51
topics
53:51
we've
53:51
talked
53:51
about
53:51
tonight
53:52
or
53:52
if
53:52
you
53:52
have
53:52
anything
53:53
else.
53:54
What's
53:54
one
53:54
thing
53:54
you
53:55
want
53:55
to
53:55
recommend
53:55
to
53:56
viewers
53:56
and
53:57
listeners?
53:57
I
53:57
would
53:58
say
53:58
it's
53:59
a
53:59
recommendation
54:00
for,
54:00
for
54:01
myself
54:01
too.
54:02
It's
54:02
the,
54:04
the
54:05
Kane
54:06
Parsons
54:08
backrooms
54:09
series.
54:10
It's
54:10
very,
54:13
from
54:13
the
54:13
few
54:14
episodes
54:14
that
54:14
I've
54:15
seen,
54:15
it's
54:15
very,
54:17
it's
54:17
very
54:18
Fringe
54:19
kind
54:20
of
54:20
meets
54:21
the
54:21
show
54:22
Fringe
54:22
kind
54:22
of
54:23
meets
54:23
the
54:23
Blair
54:24
Witch
54:24
Project.
54:24
So
54:25
we
54:25
should
54:26
do
54:26
that.
54:26
Nice.
54:27
Nice.
54:28
Right
54:28
on.
54:28
Awesome.
54:30
And
54:30
I'm
54:30
going
54:30
to
54:30
recommend
54:31
Widow's
54:31
Bay,
54:32
I
54:32
think
54:32
if
54:32
like,
54:33
of
54:33
course
54:33
I
54:34
like,
54:34
you
54:34
know,
54:34
especially
54:35
Obsession
54:35
and
54:36
spider
54:36
noir.
54:36
Love.
54:37
But,
54:37
but
54:37
if
54:38
Obsession
54:38
is
54:38
a
54:38
little
54:38
too
54:39
heavy
54:39
for
54:39
you
54:39
and
54:39
you're
54:40
not
54:40
quite
54:40
into
54:40
that
54:41
kind
54:41
of
54:41
horror,
54:41
you
54:41
want
54:41
something
54:42
a
54:43
little
54:43
lighter.
54:43
But
54:43
it
54:44
has
54:44
the
54:44
comedy
54:44
angle
54:44
to
54:45
it
54:45
too.
54:45
I
54:46
think
54:46
Widow's
54:46
Bay
54:46
is
54:46
excellent
54:47
and
54:47
I,
54:48
I
54:48
want
54:48
to
54:48
talk
54:48
about
54:48
with
54:48
more
54:49
people.
54:49
So
54:49
go
54:49
watch
54:49
that
54:50
great
54:51
show
54:51
on
54:51
Apple.
54:52
So.
54:53
Yeah,
54:53
awesome.
54:54
Well,
54:54
Evan,
54:54
this
54:55
has
54:55
been
54:55
fantastic.
54:56
Thank
54:56
you
54:56
so
54:57
much
54:57
for
54:57
geeking
54:57
out
54:57
with
54:57
me
54:58
and
54:58
thank
54:58
you
54:59
all
54:59
to
55:00
our
55:00
viewers,
55:01
listeners
55:01
for
55:02
tuning
55:02
in.
55:02
We
55:03
really
55:03
appreciate
55:03
you
55:03
all.
55:04
Again,
55:04
click
55:05
on
55:05
the
55:05
show
55:05
notes
55:06
for
55:06
find
55:07
out
55:07
ways
55:07
to
55:07
support
55:07
us.
55:08
And
55:09
remember,
55:09
we
55:10
are
55:10
all
55:10
a
55:10
chosen
55:11
people,
55:11
a
55:12
geekdom
55:12
of
55:12
priests.
55:13
So
55:14
until
55:14
next
55:14
time,.
55:19
Sam.