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- 0:01The path to the C -suite is rarely linear, and
- 0:04the challenges don't stop once you get there.
- 0:07I'm Wasee Akamon, and I'm taking you with me
- 0:09on my journey as a newly appointed CFO, sharing
- 0:13the hidden challenges, unspoken rules, and lessons
- 0:16I wish I had known. So whether you're in finance,
- 0:19working finance, or just trying to get your budget
- 0:22approved faster, there's something here for you.
- 0:25The purpose of this podcast is to make better
- 0:27leaders and help leaders be better at life. Welcome
- 0:31to the Diary of a CFO. Welcome to the first episode
- 0:36of the Diary of a CFO. I'm your host, Waseya
- 0:39Camon, and I'm so excited to have you here. In
- 0:42this first episode, I want to go over who am
- 0:46I, why I'm doing this, and what you should expect
- 0:49in the future. I'll go through the multiple hats
- 0:53I'm wearing. My first and obvious one is CFO.
- 0:57I'm the Chief Financial Officer of an organization
- 1:00called ACE, Access to Capital for Entrepreneurs.
- 1:04We are a not -for -profit lender who provides
- 1:06affordable loans to underserved communities and
- 1:09entrepreneurs. Another hat I'm wearing is keynote
- 1:12speaker. I've been speaking on change management
- 1:15and strategic influence for the past couple years.
- 1:19Another hat I'm wearing is guest contributor
- 1:22and content creator, mostly on LinkedIn. I've
- 1:25been featured in publication like the Wall Street
- 1:28Journal, Strategic Finance and Accounting Today,
- 1:31so writing a lot about finance and accounting.
- 1:35I'm now a guest faculty for Wharton Online for
- 1:39their FP &A certificate program. And these are
- 1:43just the professional hats, okay? I haven't even
- 1:46gotten into the not professional hats, which
- 1:49is I'm a mom, I have two kids, age 10 and nine,
- 1:53even though I feel like my 10 year old is older
- 1:56than she's acting, but oh well. I'm also a volunteer.
- 2:01I'm a board member for a not -for -profit organization
- 2:04called HOPE, and we help single parent complete
- 2:07their education degree so they don't have to
- 2:09work two jobs. We help them so that by the time
- 2:11they graduate, they don't have as much debt and
- 2:14they have been able to actually complete an education
- 2:16that will allow them to do better in life. And
- 2:20also, these are all the hats. And so, why? Am
- 2:25I doing this? Why in the world am I doing this?
- 2:31Good question. I'm glad you asked. The first
- 2:35reason is because it's fresh in my mind. I'm
- 2:37launching a podcast about 30 days after starting
- 2:40this new CFO role. I've never been a CFO before.
- 2:44Drinking from a fire hose is an understatement.
- 2:46I will say that I've been swallowed by the fire
- 2:49hose. That's a better way to say it. When I announced
- 2:52that I became a CFO, a lot of people reached
- 2:56out to me on LinkedIn and it made me realize
- 2:59that there is so much I want to share with people
- 3:02about my journey and it's hard to do it by writing
- 3:04post because writing is great but it's sometimes
- 3:08hard to capture the complexities of how you succeed
- 3:12in the corporate world. And I realize that podcasting
- 3:15allows for more in -depth conversation. I want
- 3:18to be able to provide insights that address that
- 3:20intersection of optimizing a business financially
- 3:23while having a rewarding career and personal
- 3:26life. Why is this needed? Because a lot of managers
- 3:30never received formal leadership training and
- 3:33coaching when they're first starting leading
- 3:35people. That was my case. I also ran a study
- 3:38on LinkedIn that showed that, yes, I'm not the
- 3:41only one. And so as a result, they often tend
- 3:44to become bad managers before becoming great
- 3:47leaders, if they actually make the shift at some
- 3:50point. And so you realize that managers need
- 3:53help, leaders need help. It is not easy to lead.
- 3:58If you go, for example, on Google and you start
- 4:00typing my manager, the suggestions that you will
- 4:03see is, My manager is toxic, incompetent, or
- 4:08gaslighting me. That's what Google will fill
- 4:12in the blank for you when you stop typing my
- 4:14manager in Google search. So I really hope that
- 4:18through this podcast, managers and leaders alike
- 4:20will learn, have different perspectives, see
- 4:25things differently. And now the third reason
- 4:29why I'm doing this is because... I haven't seen
- 4:34a lot of people looking like me do this and do
- 4:36it from this angle. And if you are listening
- 4:40to the podcast, you may have not noticed, but
- 4:43I'm a young black woman with an accent. And so
- 4:46I'm in the category by default of least expected
- 4:50to make it, especially in corporate finance at
- 4:53a level where I am now in the C -suite for a
- 4:56very well -established organization. And so I
- 5:00want to do it, not just to inspire people, but
- 5:02to share challenges I had to overcome so we can
- 5:05all become better leaders, more inclusive leaders,
- 5:08and have different angles and perspective about
- 5:11how we approach business. I do have a fourth
- 5:14reason, and that is AI. Deep breath in, out.
- 5:22I'm burning out a little bit about the AI buzz,
- 5:25all the buzz around AI, because I feel like All
- 5:29these buzz is distracting us from what really
- 5:33matters. What do I mean by that? Yes, you can
- 5:38write a better prompt, but if you're not able
- 5:40to influence a human across from you that's making
- 5:43an end decision, sorry, the end decision makers
- 5:48will always be human. So you can... Try one of
- 5:51these tools that say, Oh, I'll help you optimize
- 5:54your resume. Yeah. AI you get the interview,
- 5:57but if you are not good at interviewing, it doesn't
- 6:00matter that you use AI or not. You will not get
- 6:03that job. And so what I really want to cover
- 6:06in this podcast is what are those business skills
- 6:10that business will always need and that AI will
- 6:13never replace things like strategic influence,
- 6:16things like leading change. business partnering,
- 6:20things that I really believe that AI is accelerating
- 6:23the need for. That is really what I want to focus
- 6:26in this podcast. So it doesn't matter whether
- 6:28you're in finance or not, you will gain something
- 6:31from it. Now, I told you who I was at a very
- 6:38high level, why I was doing this, right? Because
- 6:42it's fresh. I haven't seen somebody like me doing
- 6:44this. It's needed. There is AI distracting us.
- 6:48Now, what can you expect in the future episode?
- 6:51If you're in finance and accounting and aiming
- 6:53for any C -suite role, you will learn valuable
- 6:56insight on how to climb the ladder without losing
- 6:59your soul and your sanity in the process. If
- 7:02you're already in the C -suite, you will learn
- 7:03different ways to maximize your impact. And if
- 7:06you're working with a C -suite or selling to
- 7:08the C -suite, you'll have great insight into
- 7:11what keeps us at night. to better support us
- 7:14and help us make our organization better. Every
- 7:17episode will likely be very different, all right?
- 7:21Some will be long, some will be short, like this
- 7:24one, because, you know, it's almost like a little
- 7:26teaser, so you can come back for more. You know
- 7:28how they do at Costco? Maybe Costco was not a
- 7:31good example. Anyway, you got the point, right?
- 7:35What I can guarantee you is that there will always
- 7:37be something valuable. You will always find something
- 7:40of value to walk away with. Now I could stop
- 7:43here, but I wouldn't be right. I need to dive
- 7:49a little deeper, right? Dive a little deeper
- 7:52into who I am. Let's do it. That's a great idea.
- 7:57Yes, I'm an extrovert. If you haven't noticed
- 8:00that, I'm an extrovert. So having worked remotely,
- 8:03I definitely need an outlet and a friend and
- 8:06a friend to talk to. So this mic here is going
- 8:10to be my friend. I will probably should give
- 8:12him a name. So if you have ideas, please send
- 8:15me a message. I would like to know how I should
- 8:17call my new friend here. You know, extroverts
- 8:19need company. All right. So you probably hear
- 8:24in my voice, I have an accent. And that is because
- 8:27I'm originally from Ivory Coast. Ivory Coast
- 8:30is located in West Africa, in between Ghana and
- 8:34Liberia. We are a former French colony, and that's
- 8:38why the official language there is French. So
- 8:41I grew up speaking French. From kindergarten
- 8:44all the way to high school when I graduated I
- 8:46came to the United States I could read I could
- 8:49write but I couldn't understand and out of all
- 8:51places when I graduated I came to Georgia in
- 8:55Atlanta in the south y 'all So yes, my accent
- 8:59my voice will be switching throughout because
- 9:02of my heritage I've been in the state for over
- 9:06two decades It's hard to believe but yes I've
- 9:11officially spent more time living in the United
- 9:14States than in the Ivory Coast. I originally
- 9:17came to be working in actuarial science. After
- 9:23that first statistic course, I was like, no,
- 9:26we're not doing that. So I'm moving into accounting.
- 9:29I took my first accounting course. I loved it.
- 9:31And then I took this personality test. I said,
- 9:33yes, you'd be a great accountant. And I believed
- 9:36it. Okay. I was just 19 years old by that time.
- 9:38So I went all in in accounting. I interned first
- 9:43at a not -for -profit. Funny, you know, my first
- 9:45role was bookkeeper at a not -for -profit. So
- 9:47it's almost like a full circle moment to be now
- 9:51my first CFO role ever is in a not -for -profit.
- 9:55I then went to work for a CPA firm. I learned
- 9:59a lot about high net worth individual tax strategies
- 10:03for LLC, S Corp, and all that stuff. But it was
- 10:06boring to me. Okay, so I decided to, hey, let's
- 10:10try audit, especially in college. It was all
- 10:12about the big four. And I got an internship at
- 10:15PWC, PricewaterhouseCoopers. Hated it. It didn't
- 10:20fit my personality. I didn't realize in college
- 10:23that when you're an auditor, this minute you
- 10:26step in, people want you out. And I like people,
- 10:30I like being around people. And that... Feeling
- 10:33of daily rejection, I was like, no. So I was
- 10:36fortunate enough to land a role as staff accountant
- 10:39in a manufacturing company that was also a technology
- 10:42company. I stayed there for almost nine years.
- 10:46Actually, I stayed there for nine years. And
- 10:49that's where I really learned the world of corporate
- 10:53accounting and finance. The company grew tremendously,
- 10:58almost doubling. if not tripled in size while
- 11:01I was there. When I started, the department was
- 11:03just barely five people. By the time I left,
- 11:07I was controlling that, overseeing over 15 direct
- 11:10and indirect report. The reason I left there
- 11:13was, one, because I had started the Financial
- 11:17Planning and Analysis Department, FP &A, and
- 11:20loved it, but it was only 25 % of my job, so
- 11:22I wanted to do more of that. And the second reason
- 11:25was because I didn't speak Greek. Yes, that company
- 11:30was Greek owned. It was, uh, traded on the Greek
- 11:34stock exchange, but we're private here in the
- 11:36U S and they really liked the CFO to speak Greek
- 11:40and be able to conduct business in Greek and
- 11:43present budget in Greek. And he's having a woman
- 11:45now. I just learned English. Should I learned
- 11:49again another language? Why? Okay. So I left.
- 11:55And so. From this role, I went into 100 % FP
- 12:01&A and a pharmaceutical company. Great culture,
- 12:06there COVID hit. COVID hit me when I was there.
- 12:11And COVID, like many other things, was that time
- 12:13of the great resignation, looking for more, looking
- 12:16for better, wondering what are we doing in this
- 12:19world? And that's how I started building my brand
- 12:22on LinkedIn, starting speaking. and wanted to
- 12:28see more of the world. And I took this role as
- 12:30VP of Finance and Accounting at a chemical manufacturer.
- 12:34And then I fell in love with not -for -profit
- 12:38because at about the same time, I had joined
- 12:41the board of a not -for -profit called HOPE.
- 12:45And what we do at HOPE, because I'm still with
- 12:47HOPE, I'm the treasurer, is that we help single
- 12:50parent complete their education degree. So people
- 12:54can actually go to college, go from being maybe
- 13:00at a McDonald's to becoming a nurse. And while
- 13:03they're doing it, they're required to have a
- 13:05full -time job. They're also required to be at
- 13:07school at a part -time with a certain grade point
- 13:10average. And so it's been an amazing experience.
- 13:13And that's when I started that journey of, oh,
- 13:17I really want to work for Impact. And I got and
- 13:22a great opportunity to join a CDFI called the
- 13:26Low Income Investment Fund that is also in the
- 13:29same space as ACE. So after I left the Low Income
- 13:32Investment Fund, I became now Chief Financial
- 13:35Officer here at ACE. And what we do is helping
- 13:38entrepreneurs in areas that banks like Bank of
- 13:43America, the Wells Fargo may not be able to give
- 13:46because of some of their regulations. But we
- 13:48able to have such an impact here in the state
- 13:50of Georgia, it's amazing. I will probably have
- 13:53a whole episode about the work that we do, but
- 13:57it's been an amazing journey. And being an impact
- 14:02lending, working for not -for -profit, I will
- 14:05say, doesn't mean that the accounting is easier.
- 14:10If not, I think it's even more complicated. It
- 14:12doesn't mean that, oh, we're not paying bills
- 14:16or we're not meeting with funders or investors.
- 14:19All accounting and finance is the same, is the
- 14:23same people. It is the same. It's just as hard,
- 14:27just as demanding. The hours can be crazy. We
- 14:31need better systems. We need to upscale. So the
- 14:34needs are really the same. And I'm really looking
- 14:37forward to us having better decisions on how
- 14:40we can do better. How should we be doing a better
- 14:43job as finance and business leaders? This is
- 14:46it for today. I know, you want to hear more.
- 14:50So watch the next episode. Thanks for tuning
- 14:55in. If this episode resonated with you and you
- 14:58are just as excited as I am for what's to come
- 15:00next, don't forget to subscribe and share it.
- 15:02I'm Osia Kamwe and I will see you next in an
- 15:04episode with more insight to help you be a better
- 15:07leader and be better at life.