Latest / Spiders Sound Off / Episode 18: From Croissants to Courtside
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- 0:05Welcome back everybody, to another episode of Spider Sound
- 0:09Off. This is Tom.
- 0:10And this is Porter. And yes, Porter is back from his
- 0:14holiday, as they call it in Europe.
- 0:17Porter, tell us a little bit about about your trip.
- 0:19Oh yes, so France, where do I start?
- 0:21We started actually in Paris, spent three days there and then
- 0:24took the high speed train out to Lyon, drifted down the Rhone
- 0:27River for about a week and ended up in X and Provence, which is
- 0:30southern France. A bunch of us went, about eight
- 0:33of us, 6 hardcore Spider fans and then, you know, 2 VCU fans.
- 0:38But anyway, we won't mention that out loud, although they did
- 0:42promise they'd give us a listen. So that's good.
- 0:44But it's great. Trip was absolutely fantastic.
- 0:46I mean, France was it, it showed up, it represented, it was
- 0:50everything I hoped it would be. That's great.
- 0:53And you've been back for a couple days.
- 0:55You feel like you're back on East Coast time.
- 0:57Yeah, it's a long trip back. We flew from Marseille to
- 1:00Frankfurt and then from Frankfurt back to Dulles.
- 1:03So it's that was a long day of travel.
- 1:05But yeah, we are back in the RVA and raring to go for basketball
- 1:10season. And as you remember, you kind of
- 1:12left and said, hey, Tom, just figure something out while I'm
- 1:14gone and do an episode. So that episode has come.
- 1:17The listeners loved it. I'm not sure how much it's
- 1:20because you weren't there or it's we're getting closer to the
- 1:23season or the fact that I attack people on the message board to
- 1:26get some more people to listen. But what was what?
- 1:28What are your thoughts of the your first full episode that you
- 1:32did not take part of? So it's funny because I was
- 1:34there in France with Spider fans, so I actually got some
- 1:37other perspectives, you know, in real time.
- 1:40The general consensus was that Rob is a professional.
- 1:45You know, that was actually. I mean, I'm not a professional.
- 1:47Well, they, they, they said he kind of really sounded like he
- 1:49knew what he was talking about. He does.
- 1:51Use big words I know. Yeah, he adds up all gust.
- 1:54I mean, like I actually had to look that up.
- 1:56I mean, clearly he paid attention in in Richmond's.
- 1:59Well, he did. Better on the reading part of
- 2:01the SAT than probably you or I. Did yes, so he he used some some
- 2:05really good words that we don't really, you know, just kind of
- 2:08made us shake a little bit. They were so, so impressive.
- 2:12But no, Rob was a pro. I mean, I think, you know, I
- 2:14love the interview with with the lady involved in the holiday
- 2:17tournament. I thought that was really,
- 2:18really good. Appreciated you catching me up
- 2:21on the the ladies scrimmage that I missed.
- 2:23I thought that was fantastic and hats off to the men for beating
- 2:26JMU. By the way, JMU, I think we we
- 2:28underrepresented that. That's a pretty impressive win.
- 2:31JMU is is is is is a good team in the Sunbelt and probably are
- 2:36going to win 20 games this year. So I think that was a good win
- 2:38for our men to start the to start the season off right.
- 2:41Yeah, agreed. It's nice to have an exhibition.
- 2:44Hopefully in future years we keep doing that.
- 2:46And by the way, I'll point out to the starting lineup that I
- 2:49call. I called that three episodes
- 2:51earlier. I said that we're going to go
- 2:52small ball to start the season and I got it exactly right.
- 2:55Well, that was not the season. No, but it was kind of the
- 2:57season. It's the first time they had
- 2:59fans of the game so. That was your second predicted.
- 3:01Lineup after the double when we found out about the Daughtry
- 3:04injury. So yes.
- 3:05Which we knew about when you predicted.
- 3:07But you know, and I still could be right on that one too.
- 3:09You never know. Yeah, that I'll tell you that
- 3:11the thing that was probably the most surprising outside of how
- 3:14good Robinson looked. I mean, we we knew he'd look
- 3:17good, but how how great he was in that game was how much, how
- 3:19many minutes Daughtry played. So I think we were, you know,
- 3:22just guessing like he'd be like gradually worked in over the
- 3:25first two months. And yeah, if he he's playing
- 3:27over 15 minutes in the scrimmage or exhibition, I'd expect
- 3:31similar minutes this week. And I go back to that first
- 3:34practice we watched in July when it when we said we we don't know
- 3:37what to make of this Robinson kid.
- 3:39He looks like he could be the best player on the team, but
- 3:41where has he been like before now?
- 3:43And so for him to go out and just play that kind of game, the
- 3:46first game against GMU there that that shows that he has a
- 3:50promising future for for Richmond.
- 3:53It's exciting to see actual box scores and players names and,
- 3:58you know, get the report on minutes and how it looked.
- 4:01I can't tell you how excited I am that this is the week that it
- 4:04all starts for us and the basketball season goes.
- 4:06OK, before we get into the upcoming games and we're going
- 4:09to do some season predictions in terms of records, I do have to
- 4:14make a public apology to Porter. It has nothing to do with me
- 4:18making fun of him during the last podcast, but it has more to
- 4:21do with a seating snafu. Porter worked hard to get 4
- 4:27tickets for both of us and our spouses to move down to a closer
- 4:31section where it's the kind of the bigger cushiony seats.
- 4:34You know, Porter's a tall guy, he needed a little more room.
- 4:37He got the two seats, told me to call to get the other two.
- 4:41They're ready for my call. Might have told you 3 times to
- 4:43call. Yeah, you may have.
- 4:44I called probably four days later.
- 4:47That included A4 business days later with a weekend in between.
- 4:50By the time I called, his other two seats had been purchased by
- 4:54other Spider fans. So we've moved back to Section 5
- 4:58for one more season. Up top, baby.
- 5:01Yeah, so he's got the aisle seat still.
- 5:04So if you're coming down to watch out for his his legs, but
- 5:07we are back in Section 5. That is totally my fault.
- 5:10If you if you see Porter and Payne trying to get out of those
- 5:13seats, I'm to blame. And I will say for those fans
- 5:18that we look to see at the games, we're going to be in
- 5:22section, probably section 18 for the women's games.
- 5:25Right across from the the Richmond bench is usually where
- 5:27we sit about 5 or 6 rows back from the floor.
- 5:29So take a look for us there. We're going to be there Tuesday
- 5:31night, really excited for the ladies opener.
- 5:34So hope to see some folks, some see some folks there.
- 5:38Yeah, and for the men's games will be in Section 5, except for
- 5:40the times you all invite us to your hospitality reserve
- 5:45sections up top. We're always open to the.
- 5:47Probably could. Probably could be talked in the
- 5:49floor side seats too. If you guys wanted to sit with
- 5:52us, we'd love to sit on the floor.
- 5:53You never know, right? Yeah, that's right.
- 5:55OK, So let's move on and talk about maybe a little bit of news
- 6:00that's happened. I think since you've gone all
- 6:02those rankings came out where the women's team keeps getting
- 6:05ranked, whether it's top 25, top 20, depends.
- 6:07Pretty exciting that and and we're the only mid major that's
- 6:11getting ranked so there's a lot of respect coming for the
- 6:13women's. Team, I mean, it's, it's, it
- 6:15feels really, really good to be a Richmond Spiders ladies
- 6:19basketball fan right now because the hype train is starting to,
- 6:22to take on a life of its own. I mean, I think, you know, the
- 6:26coverage in the local paper has been better.
- 6:28They've, they've definitely picked it up.
- 6:29I mean, I saw O'Connor's interview with Ali the other
- 6:32day. Lot of coverage from the
- 6:33different news media sources. It's going to be a, a really fun
- 6:36year. And I mean, I think the ladies
- 6:38are deserving of any and all, all the honors that they get.
- 6:41So yeah, I'm excited about those those those honors as they come
- 6:44in. Yeah, and Maggie got the big
- 6:45one. I think she was nominated for
- 6:47the Naismith Award, which is really for the top women's
- 6:49basketball players in the country.
- 6:51It was the one, maybe not the only award, but I saw a lot of
- 6:56mid major awards for our for both the coach and our players.
- 7:00What what are your thoughts, Porter, when there is a mid
- 7:04major award list or mid major top 20 teams, mid major.
- 7:08Like you can look all over the place now and people are putting
- 7:11out the top whatever for quote UN quote mid major conferences.
- 7:15I mean, I think, you know, for one, I love that the world is
- 7:19taking note of how good our, our team is and how good these,
- 7:22these girls are going to be. I, I don't love the label mid
- 7:26major because I think you, you could typecast yourself by being
- 7:30a mid major. You know, I think in episode 1,
- 7:32I talked about, you know, Gonzaga was a mid major until
- 7:34they weren't, you know, and I think our goal is to be a major
- 7:37in all all basketball categories.
- 7:40And coach Roussell and coach and the rest of the coaching staff
- 7:42are are building towards that. And I mean, I think, you know,
- 7:47we've got one of the top coaching Staffs in America on
- 7:50the ladies teams. And I've said that multiple
- 7:52times on this podcast. So I want every award that comes
- 7:56their way. I know they're they're going to
- 7:57stay focused. They're not going to let it go
- 7:58to their head. You can't, you can't recognize
- 8:01these ladies too much for what they've done.
- 8:03They're building a program, they're building, you know, a
- 8:05successful entity here, and it's just exciting to be back in
- 8:10Richmond while it's all happening.
- 8:11When I was looking at some of these awards that the ladies
- 8:13got, they were named after, you know, past women, women players
- 8:17that I didn't know about. So I did some research.
- 8:19I also saw, well, I'll, I'll, I'll quiz you and see if you can
- 8:23surprise me with the answer. There is a point Guard award for
- 8:26the best point guard in the country.
- 8:28Is this a mid major point? Guard.
- 8:29No, it's just Point Guard Award for the best point guard of the
- 8:31country, and it's named after someone who is close ties to the
- 8:34University of Richmond. I.
- 8:38Did not play at University Richmond but close ties with
- 8:41you. Close ties to University of
- 8:42Richmond did not play at University of Richmond.
- 8:44It's the Nancy Lieberman point. Guard.
- 8:47Whoa. OK, nice.
- 8:49Yeah, so that was kind of interesting, get to learn a
- 8:52little bit about some of these great players from the past.
- 8:55OK, now let's go into some games we've got going.
- 8:59You want to talk about the women at home against Mount Saint
- 9:01Mary's or the men's at the Southern University of Virginia
- 9:04where you want to go first? Let's talk about the Southern
- 9:06University of Virginia and the men.
- 9:08If we could, where is? The Southern University of
- 9:11Virginia. So it's in Buena Vista, VA,
- 9:16which is kind of over there near Lexington.
- 9:18So it's on the western part of the state.
- 9:20Southern University of Virginia is was founded back in 1867 as a
- 9:25for profit institution post Civil War.
- 9:28It was back then it was established by Alice Scott
- 9:31Chandler as a home for the girls.
- 9:33That that is different than Del Boca Vista.
- 9:36Del Boca Vista. From Seinfeld, that's where.
- 9:39Seinfeld. Ohhh yeah, yeah.
- 9:40Very, very different from Del Boca Vista men were admitted
- 9:44into then Southern Virginia College in 1994.
- 9:47It's also called Southern Seminary.
- 9:49This is not a typical D3 team. We're going to play on on
- 9:53Wednesday night. By the way, this is actually a
- 9:55pretty interesting team. It's coached by a guy who had a
- 9:58lot of success at, you know, a sub D3 level.
- 10:01Last year he took the Southern, the Southern Virginia
- 10:03University's team to the NCAA tournament for the first time
- 10:06ever in D3. They went 19 and eight.
- 10:09And then he's added two guys in the front court this year.
- 10:12One is 6 foot 10 and one is 7 feet.
- 10:15They've got A7 footer who's 235 lbs and a 610 kid who is is.
- 10:21That's just a huge front court for AD 3 school.
- 10:25Yeah, it's interesting too. Like, I don't getting back to
- 10:28your proud second prediction of the small lineup.
- 10:31That would be really interesting if Mooney still goes small when
- 10:35like, is Tanner going to be playing against A68610 guy?
- 10:39You know, we'll see what the lineup is, but yeah, I mean,
- 10:41sounds like they're big. Did Robinson force his way into
- 10:43the starting four position? I don't know, Like, it'll be
- 10:45very interesting to see who we, who we roll with that'll finally
- 10:49solve our bet, by the way, on Wednesday.
- 10:51But maybe it's Daughtry. Maybe Daughtry's now got the
- 10:53tune up. He needs to be the starter, but
- 10:55it's going to be a bigger D3 school.
- 10:57And, and, and here's the thing the folks need to understand.
- 11:00D3 schools are not that far removed in terms of basketball
- 11:03experience from D1 schools. Those kids all played at
- 11:06competitive schools in high school.
- 11:07They all played AAU ball in a lot of cases.
- 11:10So don't be too shocked if we face a very talented D3 school
- 11:15at home in the Robin Center on Wednesday.
- 11:17Now, is there a famous Domo brother who also played D3
- 11:20college basketball? Yes, there was actually Dan who
- 11:23played for Bridgewater College back in the 1990s was a was a
- 11:28very good D3 player and actually was involved in that Bridgewater
- 11:32team that went to the Sweet 16. The farthest Bridgewater's ever
- 11:35made it in the D3 field are. They in the same conference as
- 11:38this Southern University. No, they Dan was in the ODAC.
- 11:41He was a he's a good player in the ODAC.
- 11:43This is a different conference these guys are in.
- 11:45I looked through some of the conference, the other teams in
- 11:48the conference, they did get a kid from the ODAC who was
- 11:50actually from Richmond. Eastern Mennonite was a school
- 11:52in the ODAC that sent a kid named Ty Peterson are Yeah, Ty
- 11:57Peterson, who was who's a Richmond kid has now transferred
- 12:01into Southern Virginia University.
- 12:03And Tillman Johnson, he's probably their most noted
- 12:05returning player. He's he was a very successful
- 12:08player on their NCAA team last year.
- 12:09But it's really A7 footer Bridger Anderson and 610
- 12:12freshman Austin Mitchell that give me pause.
- 12:14Austin Mitchell, He is 20 years old.
- 12:16He's 6 foot 10. He's a left-hander and seven
- 12:19footer. Anderson listed as his top
- 12:22choice BYU when he was being recruited.
- 12:24He's 235 lbs. You know this could be a prep
- 12:26school for the BYU's of the world, right?
- 12:28If you go out and you play really well, D3 as A7 footer,
- 12:31you know you could get you could get a slot on the BYU roster.
- 12:34OK, well, fans out there, like that's the kind of research
- 12:36Porter does on a Division Three school.
- 12:38Just wait till we play Division One.
- 12:40Like it's going to be impressive.
- 12:41I was. Thinking about this, we don't
- 12:42have any and we haven't really asked anybody for anything to
- 12:46support this program yet. But if we got a couple business
- 12:48sponsors, you know, people who would, you know, sponsor an
- 12:50episode or two, we might actually take this to the next
- 12:52level. I might drive over to Buena
- 12:54Vista next time and actually try to sneak in on one of their
- 12:56practices and then report back what I saw.
- 12:58So think about that guys. If you guys have a business you
- 13:00want us to mention you on our podcast would be happy to do
- 13:03that wouldn't be too expensive. And we'd love to love to give us
- 13:07a little bit of a travel budget to go out and do a little more
- 13:09research for these for these matchups.
- 13:11I'll be going to La Boca Vista in Florida.
- 13:15Playing shuffleboard OK. So, you know, we'll talk about
- 13:18the full season a little bit, but with all of that information
- 13:23on how big and how talented they are like.
- 13:26What are we? What's going?
- 13:26To happen? Yeah.
- 13:27What's going to happen? We're going.
- 13:28To kill him, Yeah, yeah. It's going to be 7547 Richmond.
- 13:31That's my prediction. 7547. 28 point win I'm.
- 13:33Going to write that down. That's a quick math.
- 13:35That is a quick math, I actually thought about it before.
- 13:37We got on the air. Nice, nice.
- 13:39OK, so now let's go to the. What's your prediction for that
- 13:42game? My prediction, I mean, we're
- 13:44definitely going to win. I'm saying we win 90 to 65.
- 13:52OK all. Right 90 to 65, mark it down.
- 13:56Think it'd be a lot of scoring and not a lot of defense.
- 13:58The team we're playing. OK, so the women actually have a
- 14:01Division One game, which is good because this is their prep for
- 14:04Texas. They play Mount Saint Mary's at
- 14:07home. What do you what do you know
- 14:09about the Mount Saint Mary's team?
- 14:10You know, it's harder to do some of the research on the on the
- 14:13ladies teams from small conferences.
- 14:15I did do a little work on them. They finished, they're projected
- 14:17to finish third in the MAAC this year.
- 14:20They got a guard, Kennerly, 5 foot 9.
- 14:23He is all second team MAAC, coached by a guy named Antoine
- 14:27White. He's definitely done a decent
- 14:29job at Mount Saint Mary's. I think he's been there three or
- 14:32four years. But they're they're not going to
- 14:34be in Richmond's class. I believe this, this is a, this
- 14:38should be a pretty decisive win for us.
- 14:40OK, so the Bartovic which I had mentioned a few episodes, they
- 14:43do have a women's. Pre season they finally.
- 14:45Put out they have them ranked 2:45.
- 14:48Do they give you a projected score for this game?
- 14:50I'm not that I'm aware of. And where do they have Richmond?
- 14:53That's a good question, 37. I think we're going to win that
- 14:58game. I'm going to give you a score
- 14:59here. I I think it's going to be, I
- 15:02think Mount Saint Mary's gets to about 43 points, but I think we
- 15:05score 72. So 7243 Richmond.
- 15:09That's pretty similar score to the men.
- 15:10That's a good question. I'm going to go more scoring as
- 15:12well and I'm going to say it is 83 to 43.
- 15:22I'm going to use your same score and just have this be an
- 15:24annihilation. What what what's interesting, if
- 15:26you guys watched the the early games last year, I mean, Russell
- 15:30is going to probably play a lot of players in this game, so I
- 15:34think you're going to get a chance to see all the talent in
- 15:36game #1. And they Bartevich does have a
- 15:38result for that score they're predicting is 8254.
- 15:42Wow. So we weren't far off, I mean.
- 15:45We're kind of, I wouldn't do this to statistics and how far
- 15:49off we are, but they do have us losing to Texas 7761.
- 15:54Yeah, so, so Texas will, I think we're going to try folk for you
- 15:56guys. Listen, I think we're going to
- 15:58try to do 2 episodes a week now that the season started.
- 16:00So we'll come back at you with Thursday with a new episode.
- 16:03We'll talk about East Carolina, we'll talk about Texas and that
- 16:06one. But here's one thing I was
- 16:08thinking about before we recorded this episode is what is
- 16:12Russell going to hold something back?
- 16:14Because, you know, this game's on ESPN Plus, so you don't Texas
- 16:16will guarantee you'll look at the tape to see what what looks
- 16:18new for Richmond. Do we hold something back that
- 16:21we that we save and, you know, kind of keep hidden for Texas?
- 16:25That's a good question. Well, I don't, you know, what
- 16:27we've learned so far and talking to the players is that like,
- 16:31there aren't a lot of detailed plays where he's calling, you
- 16:35know, play ABC and he's going to hide that secret play until the
- 16:41game they're playing this kind of read and react and there are
- 16:43certain places where players are supposed to be.
- 16:47I think it just gets back to how much do our best players have to
- 16:49play in this game. I think I think he'd love to
- 16:52have Maggie play 20 minutes versus 30 minutes.
- 16:55Same with Rachel, same with Ali. And let the let the freshman.
- 16:59Get some strong. Get Peyton, the transfer is kind
- 17:01of all a lot of time so. We're going to go into the
- 17:04schedules here in a minute, but man, the ladies play a brutal
- 17:08schedule this year and so this is one of the games coming up
- 17:11against Mount where you can go deep on the bench.
- 17:14There aren't too many of those games on the schedule.
- 17:16This. Year yeah, I'll tell you coming
- 17:17out of that scrimmage, like the thing that comes to mind and it
- 17:21was, you know 1 scrimmage at home, but I feel like last year
- 17:25our bench was had solid role players but didn't have anyone
- 17:30who is threatening on offense where when they would they would
- 17:33come in and be like, oh here we go right.
- 17:36I I think our bench has that this year.
- 17:38I couldn't tell you exactly who, but I think what he's going to
- 17:41be able to get off the bench is offense.
- 17:43Now there's a big question about defense that this team is still
- 17:48going to be learning with a bunch of new players.
- 17:50But I do think there's the opportunity for one of these
- 17:52freshmen or sophomore, someone coming off the bench where
- 17:55you're adding kind of firepower. I think similar, while we
- 17:58weren't watching it back then, like I think when when Rachel
- 18:02was a sophomore, she was kind of, you know, 6th man of the
- 18:05sixth woman of the year in the league, came off the bench and
- 18:09was was kind of this lethal score.
- 18:10I think we have the opportunity to have something like that,
- 18:12which will be really exciting and different than last.
- 18:16For your report from the from the first from the scrimmage, I
- 18:19mean TRS Simon came off the bench.
- 18:21So like that's a, that's an all 810 third, third team are coming
- 18:24off the bench. That's pretty exciting, which
- 18:27should give us a good, a good lift and rebounding.
- 18:29By the way, we we, we also beat Virginia Tech in a secret
- 18:31scrimmage for the ladies. That's awesome.
- 18:33So great, great work ladies on that.
- 18:35And Virginia Tech's a good team. So that really does give us a
- 18:38lot of a lot of hope. Yeah, I'll tell you one thing.
- 18:40I'm envious of Virginia Tech and hopefully this is what we build
- 18:43in the program. When I was researching before
- 18:46that happened, trying to get confirmation that that game was
- 18:48happening. Like you'd see press from
- 18:50Virginia Tech that their women's season tickets were sold out.
- 18:53Now that that's not their entire arena, but I'm guessing they
- 18:56have, I don't know, 2000 season tickets for for women's that
- 18:59they sell out and then they have single tickets.
- 19:01But it was just kind of exciting to be like, wow, could we get to
- 19:03a program where we're we're, you know, top 25 or chance to be top
- 19:0825 every year and at some point we've got women's season tickets
- 19:11sold out. Like that would be a great.
- 19:13It starts with it starts with the fans listening to this and
- 19:15the fan, just the casual fan. Get your tickets, come out,
- 19:17watch these ladies play. They've earned.
- 19:19They've earned you spending $50 on them to to buy a season
- 19:22ticket. OK, one thing I won a surprise
- 19:24Porter with, but my wife spoiled the surprise earlier.
- 19:27Is that part of what we saw at the men's game was some
- 19:32concession changes? And they have added some beer
- 19:35choices. They have added Falcon Smash,
- 19:38which I think if you're from Richmond, if you don't think
- 19:41it's the best IPA in town, it's got to be high up on your list.
- 19:44They still have X Ardent X is still there.
- 19:46So I'm an IPA guy, as I mentioned to you, my daughter
- 19:48went to school up in Vermont, you know, so I'm a fan of the of
- 19:51the Heady Topper, the Lawson Sip of Sunshine, some of your great
- 19:55Vermont Ipas, Falcon Smash so far, and I have not run the game
- 19:59of Richmond Ipas, Full disclosure, there are other ones
- 20:01I need to try, but Falcon Smash has been my favorite IPA in
- 20:04Richmond so far. So I'm super excited to hear.
- 20:06That Yep, and they also added a center of the universe dark
- 20:10logger. OK, so they still have Richmond
- 20:12Logger. You're a logger guys.
- 20:13Yeah, that's right. So that was exciting.
- 20:15It was good. I liked it.
- 20:16Excellent. The I think the Falcon and the
- 20:19Center of the universe, I think they were 10 and then nine would
- 20:22be I think art and X and Richmond lager, a few other
- 20:26things. But it was great to see kind of
- 20:28expanding that though I think the I'm hoping Falcon smash does
- 20:33does great. And if any of these breweries
- 20:35are looking for us to talk about your beers even more, you know,
- 20:38we're open to in kind sponsorship.
- 20:43Yeah, absolutely. You want to give us a case?
- 20:45We'll probably mention your product multiple times, Yeah.
- 20:47That's right. We're we're sellouts.
- 20:48OK, So Are you ready to talk about the?
- 20:50Season. Let's do it.
- 20:51OK, You want to do men's or women's first?
- 20:53Do men's first, OK? So we're going to this is kind
- 20:57of the last pre season podcast that we'll have for this
- 21:01upcoming season. We are going to come up with our
- 21:04record predictions and. Game by game.
- 21:07And we will, you know, when we're done, kind of kind of keep
- 21:11the totals and see who's closer. Yes, Now we can go game by game.
- 21:16Like we both know a lot of these services will say like, oh, you,
- 21:18if you look at the games you're going to win, you're going to be
- 21:20whatever 20 and 10. But at the end it says you're
- 21:23really going to be 18 and 12. I'm not going to read directly
- 21:27from a service. I know, I know, it's all up
- 21:29here, baby. So I OK so.
- 21:31I just need that to see the games.
- 21:33OK, so should should we just wait till the end to get to our
- 21:36total record? Are you going to keep count of
- 21:38your record? Do I need to keep count?
- 21:39Do you have it in your? Head, why don't you go through
- 21:40one at a time, say win loss 1 and O2 and O2 and 1 three and
- 21:44one, things like that, and then get to the end and tell me your
- 21:45record and then how many games we're going to win the 18
- 21:47tournament and then I'll do the. Same.
- 21:48OK, I don't think that works. It works.
- 21:51Let me go first. I'm ready.
- 21:53All right, here's the men's schedule, folks.
- 21:54Southern Virginia, that's a win one and O East Carolina tough
- 21:57game, actually for a second game, but we're going to win it
- 22:00by a few 2 and O William and Mary, it's a home game.
- 22:03We'll beat them at home 3 and OVMI home game, we'll beat them
- 22:06four and O Gardner Wham home game.
- 22:07We'll beat them five and O the first sign of trouble for us is
- 22:10Furman on a neutral court. I think we're going to lose the
- 22:12Furman go 5 and 1. Belmont will be a loss on the
- 22:15road, 5 and two. ODU at home will win 6 and 2.
- 22:19Southern Illinois, probably a loss six and three.
- 22:24Elon, I'm going to say it's on the road.
- 22:25We're going to lose 6 and 4. The Citadel, we win 7 and 4.
- 22:30Charleston Southern we win 8 and 4 that's got me at 8:00 and 4:00
- 22:33on the on the non con George Washington it's home will beat
- 22:37them 9 and 4. Fordham away will win 10 and
- 22:41four. St.
- 22:42Bonnie, we never win there. 10 and five, did you?
- 22:44Hold on, did you skip the whole tournament?
- 22:46I skipped. Was there a game before Southern
- 22:47Illinois? It's not showing up on my.
- 22:49Service Charlotte. OK, Charlotte.
- 22:51We'll win Charlotte. So call it nine and four in the
- 22:54non con instead of eight and four.
- 22:55That was my fault. My fault.
- 22:57So go back to the starting of George Washington.
- 22:58We'll win that at home that's 10 and 4.
- 23:01Fordham on the road is a win 11 and four We lose to Saint Bonnie
- 23:05at Saint Bonnie, that's 11 and 5.
- 23:07Saint Joe at home win it's 12 and 5.
- 23:10LaSalle home win 13 and five We're going to lose to Saint
- 23:13Louis 13 and 6. Rhode Island's a win 14 and 6.
- 23:18DW on the road will lose 14 and seven.
- 23:20VCU we it's on the road. That's a devil loss. 14 and.
- 23:25You said you knew how this was going to work.
- 23:27Yes, I did. Davidson will beat him at home,
- 23:2915 and eight. Then we lose to Rhode Island on
- 23:31the road. I would beat Mason.
- 23:33We beat VCU at home this year. We lose to Davidson at Davidson.
- 23:39We beat Saint Bonaventure, we're going to lose to Loyola, we're
- 23:44going to beat Dayton at home, and we're going to lose to
- 23:46Duquesne on the road. So I got to calculate what I
- 23:51just said. I think it comes out to, I think
- 23:53it comes out to either 18 and 13 and 19.
- 23:56And OK, so I'm going to save all of you going through that, that
- 24:00painful exercise. The men will go 17 and 14.
- 24:03They'll go nine and four in the out of conference.
- 24:06They'll go 8 and 10 in conference.
- 24:08We will not beat VCU, unlike Porter said.
- 24:11We will not win a 10 tournament, OK.
- 24:15We will not go to post season. No NIT, no OK, I am going to go
- 24:2019 and 12, so 19 and 12 for the men.
- 24:25That includes nine wins in the non con.
- 24:30So that means we got to have 10 during the season.
- 24:32I might have been, I might have short changed this to 1 win.
- 24:3410:00 and 8:00 that's a good. Yeah, 10 and eight in this in
- 24:37the conference. So 19 and 12 will go into the
- 24:39conference tournament as the six seed will win their first two
- 24:42games, go to 21 and 12 and then we lose to a really spirited St.
- 24:48Louis team and we finished the season of 21 and 13 and we are
- 24:53the last team in the NIT. So I'm staying in IT for us this
- 24:56year. But the real cool thing about it
- 24:58is the hope is built around Robinson's emergence as a
- 25:02dominant interior player. Argebrite starts to really flash
- 25:05at point guard time, comes back for a senior season and
- 25:08Daughtry, you know, regains the the form that we know he has.
- 25:11And we have a lot of hope going in the next year to win the A10.
- 25:14Yeah, and I and I, I think this whole process that Porter went
- 25:16through has his counting games wrong.
- 25:17Maybe we're not. You're not counting Southern
- 25:19Virginia. I think.
- 25:20I think I failed to count Charlie because it's not showing
- 25:22up on my side. But I think we have 14 out of
- 25:25conference games. That's a good question.
- 25:27What we do have 14. So, OK, so we go, I'm saying we
- 25:30go 10:00 and 4:00 and 9:00 and 9:00 in the conference, then ten
- 25:33and four out of conference, 9:00 and 9:00 in the conference.
- 25:35OK. I'm doing 10:00 and 4:00 and
- 25:368:00 and 10:00. So I have to change mine to 18
- 25:38and 14 because Porter. And you say we don't.
- 25:41Are we winning any tournament games?
- 25:43Yeah, we'll win the first round. OK, so you're saying finish 19
- 25:45and 15, no post season? Yeah, OK, I'm going 21 wins even
- 25:50after the two wins in the tournament and we we get the
- 25:52NIT. I'm saying we make the NIT.
- 25:53OK. That would be nice.
- 25:55Yeah, OK, let's let's talk to women's.
- 25:57You got the women's schedule up. I do.
- 25:59It's not nearly as organized, but I do have it.
- 26:01That's OK. Not that that last segment was
- 26:02organized. Yes, OK.
- 26:04So I'm going to start and just tell you my record and then you
- 26:06can just work through game by game and go for it, OK?
- 26:10The women go 28 and 3. No way.
- 26:13They go 12 and one at a conference, including beating
- 26:15TCU. They go only.
- 26:18They go 16 and two in conference.
- 26:19They lose 2 games in conference this year.
- 26:21They they get upset somewhere and then they lose.
- 26:23At George Mason, this team is top 20 and we're A5 seed and
- 26:28we're a final 8. Elite Eight baby, an Elite Eight
- 26:32team in the NCAA Tournament. We have freshman of the year
- 26:36player, the freshman of the year, or if they have an all
- 26:38rookie team, we have someone on that team who ends up starting
- 26:42by the second-half of the season.
- 26:43I don't know who, but somebody. OK, I'll stop.
- 26:45Dude, that is bold. That's as bold as a bold take
- 26:48gets. I love this ladies team.
- 26:50I'm the biggest fan of this ladies team in the city of
- 26:52Richmond, I believe. And I'll tell you you're you're
- 26:54higher than a kite right now. For one, you don't realize how
- 26:58brutal these these teams that seem innocuous and are non con
- 27:01are not innocuous. I know.
- 27:03So yeah, I'm going to give you the schedule.
- 27:05Melt Saint Mary's is going to be an easy win.
- 27:06We talked about that. Do I need to keep track of?
- 27:07All Yeah, keep track of this because this is magic right
- 27:09here. I'm about to lay down some magic
- 27:11now. Saint Mary's is a win.
- 27:13Texas is a loss on the road. There's just zero chance with
- 27:15the size they have inside that I think we win that game.
- 27:17If we win that game, I will agree.
- 27:19Richmond's an Elite Eight team. We'll beat William and Mary on
- 27:22the road, but William and Mary's underrated.
- 27:23It'll be a good game. We are going to lose at
- 27:25Columbia. Columbia is loaded.
- 27:27They're expected to win the Ivy. They gave us a hell of a game on
- 27:29a neutral court last year. That's a loss.
- 27:31Temple is really good, but we have them at home.
- 27:33We're going to win that, will beat Navy at home.
- 27:36We're going to lose at on a neutral court to TCUI.
- 27:39Don't think the team is quite gelled yet enough to beat A-Team
- 27:42like TCU. We could be in maybe at the end
- 27:44of the year. We're not beating them on
- 27:45November 27th. You had a lot of wine in France,
- 27:47didn't you? I did.
- 27:47Have a lot of wine in France. A Green Bay is one of those
- 27:50teams that I'm really worried about.
- 27:51They were 29 and three last year and they have a a second year
- 27:55coach who's who's a rock star. They got 6 huge impact transfers
- 27:59coming in. They're projected to win the
- 28:01horizon. I think we beat them because
- 28:03it's at home, but folks come out to that November.
- 28:05I think that's neutral court. I was in a neutral court game.
- 28:08Yeah, that's a game you want to see.
- 28:09They are really good. So yeah, you're right.
- 28:11That's down in in Cancun. That's a that's a loaded team
- 28:13Loyola. It's a conference game.
- 28:15Thrust in December will win that.
- 28:17Fairfield is projected to win their conference again.
- 28:20Another really good quote UN quote mid major team.
- 28:23We beat them last year at Fairfield.
- 28:24We'll beat them again, but it'll be a good game.
- 28:26Liberty is expected to win their conference.
- 28:28That's at Liberty. That is going to be a shootout.
- 28:30I think we win it, but it's going to be close.
- 28:33We'll kill BCU and Alabama A&M, we'll beat Penn State.
- 28:38So I think we lose to Columbia and we lose to the two big Texas
- 28:41team. So I have us with three losses
- 28:43in the out of conference and then in in the conference.
- 28:46I agree with you. I think you said 16 and two.
- 28:48That feels right to me. I mean, George Mason will
- 28:50definitely I would have George Mason beating us at George
- 28:53Mason. They are they are a top 50 team
- 28:55and they they really are competitive.
- 28:57We get them twice this year anyway.
- 28:59George Mason is is going to be a tough, tough, tough out.
- 29:02We'll beat them one time, we'll lose the other, and I think
- 29:04Saint Joe's beats us at Saint Joe's this year.
- 29:06So we go 16 and two in conference we go, we get 3. 26
- 29:11and 5. Is that right?
- 29:12Yeah, that's about right. That's what I think. 2026 and
- 29:14525 and 6. I think what I did, it was
- 29:17either 26 and 5 or 25 and 6. I did it this morning before I
- 29:19came over. Yeah, 26 and 5 is what you just
- 29:21went through. So there could be could be
- 29:23another loss I'm not thinking about, but I think we will win
- 29:26the A10 tournament this year because the team you go with the
- 29:29senior leaders we have on this team, plus the gelling that'll
- 29:32happen. Yeah, agreed.
- 29:33We'll get us the, get us the the automatic.
- 29:34Bid And I think it helps that we lost last year like Maggie and
- 29:38Rachel are going into that with like this is our chance to go
- 29:40out as champs. Right, and I think you're going
- 29:42to probably see us again somewhere in that 7 to 10 scene
- 29:45rage. I think we make these blazes 7
- 29:46to 10. I do think we win a game.
- 29:48I think we will get a better match up than UCLA in the second
- 29:51round. Question is, can we win more
- 29:53than one? I'd love to see it.
- 29:54I'd love to see this this team go to the Sweet 16.
- 29:56What do you say is going to happen?
- 29:58I say we win one and we lose in the round of 32 again.
- 30:00OK. Yeah, probably, probably come up
- 30:02against the two seed in the in the second round.
- 30:04So let me, you know, you're maybe more grounded, more
- 30:09realistic than me, but I think it's clear based on those
- 30:11predictions that you were not the biggest fan of the Richmond
- 30:14women's. Team I'm still the biggest fan,
- 30:16I'm just. You're not the biggest fan in
- 30:17this room. I'm just not.
- 30:19I'm just not he. Said in the whole city.
- 30:21I have not, I have not drink a drank the potion that you've
- 30:25been drinking. But let's just say I'm I'm a
- 30:27huge fan. I think it'd be an incredible
- 30:29season to even get back to NCAA Tournament.
- 30:31But I think we could do more than I think we're.
- 30:33Going to win. Well, what's fun with this Texas
- 30:35game, which is coming up next week, That's one of those where
- 30:40you said, well, if they win that, you can see them Elite 8,
- 30:42yes. Like I would say if we win that,
- 30:44I don't think we will. That's my that's the one loss.
- 30:46If we win that, I think undefeated is a possibility.
- 30:49Yeah, that's a 0 percent, 0.0% chance.
- 30:52Sorry. Yeah, I'm not.
- 30:53I'm not predicting that. Yeah, I know.
- 30:55If we beat Texas, it's like all of a sudden it's like this, this
- 30:58team is really good. It is.
- 31:00Well, we know the team's really good, but like, I mean, it's not
- 31:02like it's not like Coach Russell has created a schedule to go 29
- 31:07and three. He's got us this schedule will
- 31:09test the heck out of this team, especially the non con portion.
- 31:13So that we're we're loaded with with games that could beat us
- 31:15right like you can. Columbia at Columbia is a tough
- 31:17game. Fairfield, Liberty, These are
- 31:19teams at Green Bay. These are really good teams that
- 31:21we're playing this year. So it's going to be a heck of a
- 31:23schedule. Heck of a time watching these
- 31:25girls play. I can't wait.
- 31:27I'll see you guys on the see you in the Robinson on Tuesday.
- 31:29Yeah, that's right. So we've got a game Tuesday,
- 31:33men's game Wednesday. Is that the schedule this week?
- 31:35And after those two wins, we'll meet up again, we'll talk and
- 31:41hopefully release something Thursday, Friday time frame,
- 31:45which will be a little review of the two games and a preview of
- 31:48the games we've got coming up. The Texas game, clearly.
- 31:51And are they home or away? It's a home game, you can see
- 31:54that's going to be a real tough game, so hopefully we'll get you
- 31:57guys out. So more to come on that.
- 31:59Appreciate you guys listening. I guess until next time, this is
- 32:03Tom. And this is Porter.
- 32:05And we are sounding off. See ya.