Latest / Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge / Snuffleupagus (RHOC Recap)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.
- 0:13Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome to another episode of Two Teas
- 0:17Speaker 2: and a Pod nnescy Hey. Hey, Cynthia's been going non
- 0:23Speaker 2: stop fashion week, her betting line one bajillion things you
- 0:28Speaker 2: can hear in her voice.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Yes, I'm struggling a little bit today, you guys, but
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm here. I didn't want to miss the pod with
- 0:35Speaker 1: my girl Teddy, so bear with me. I will try
- 0:37Speaker 1: to speak loud, but I am fighting a little bit
- 0:40Speaker 1: of a cold.
- 0:41Speaker 2: A little bit of a cold. Well, I'm fighting a
- 0:43Speaker 2: little bit of just mental stuff right now. I promise
- 0:48Speaker 2: I will snap out of it after I kind of
- 0:50Speaker 2: give you guys the update and the only I really
- 0:53Speaker 2: was struggling this morning. I don't want to get emotional,
- 0:59Speaker 2: so I'm trying to pull it together right now. So I,
- 1:03Speaker 2: as I mentioned, I don't know if I was on
- 1:06Speaker 2: the pod with Tam or if I was on the
- 1:07Speaker 2: pod of Cynthia, but I mentioned that I had gotten
- 1:09Speaker 2: another biopsy last week. But the doctor had said, oh,
- 1:14Speaker 2: you know, I'm only biopsy this because it doesn't even
- 1:18Speaker 2: look like anything. But just because I'm airing on the
- 1:21Speaker 2: side of caution. So I really thought when I was
- 1:24Speaker 2: leaving that I was like good to go. Like yesterday,
- 1:28Speaker 2: I went and did all the thing, you know, like
- 1:30Speaker 2: I've just been living as if this was going to
- 1:33Speaker 2: be nothing. I really, in my heart of heart's thought
- 1:36Speaker 2: it was going to be nothing. It was going to
- 1:38Speaker 2: be benign. And then yesterday at like four o'clock, I
- 1:42Speaker 2: saw I had a mis call and I'm like, oh no.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I saw it was my doctor's number, and I like
- 1:47Speaker 2: call back. I'm like, oh no. They normally text if
- 1:50Speaker 2: it's good news, and they call if it's bad news.
- 1:53Speaker 2: And they called and said this one is melanoma in
- 2:01Speaker 2: C two, which it's good news when it's in C
- 2:04Speaker 2: two because it means that it's on a hot we
- 2:08Speaker 2: caught it early. But it does mean that I have
- 2:12Speaker 2: to have another wide incision surgery. And the other part
- 2:19Speaker 2: that makes me worried is that it means that all
- 2:22Speaker 2: the spots that they thought were benign and never looked
- 2:30Speaker 2: at maybe something else because this one they thought was benign.
- 2:34Speaker 2: So I go in next Wednesday for surgery, and then
- 2:38Speaker 2: they're going to do more biopsies of all the little
- 2:41Speaker 2: spots on my shoulder to see just to make sure
- 2:47Speaker 2: that those ones are okay. And I mean, I'm so
- 2:49Speaker 2: grateful that they're catching things early. But you know, I
- 2:54Speaker 2: think Cynthia, all of us know regardless, Like the reason
- 2:57Speaker 2: I share this is one, get your skin check. No
- 2:59Speaker 2: matter what. We're not doctors. People ask me what do
- 3:01Speaker 2: the spots look like? We don't know, but I think
- 3:05Speaker 2: no matter what it is that we're going through. Like
- 3:08Speaker 2: even I posted about it today and Drew made a comment,
- 3:11Speaker 2: she just said, you know, thank you for being honest
- 3:14Speaker 2: about feeling like sometimes life just feels like it keeps
- 3:19Speaker 2: throwing you hit. It's like hit after hit after hit
- 3:21Speaker 2: after hit, but you still have to persevere and you
- 3:25Speaker 2: can still fight and we're still worth it. And I
- 3:27Speaker 2: think that gets lost sometimes on this pod because you know,
- 3:33Speaker 2: we can be shady and listen in three minutes from now,
- 3:36Speaker 2: I will be, but there is that you have to
- 3:42Speaker 2: turn yourself on. We're here to entertain you, guys, We're
- 3:44Speaker 2: not here so yes, we want to help change. You know,
- 3:47Speaker 2: if one person got checked after listening to this pod,
- 3:50Speaker 2: I feel grateful, but like you don't want to sit
- 3:53Speaker 2: here and listen to our SOB stories for the entire hour,
- 3:57Speaker 2: so it's like, yes, we want to give you the information,
- 3:59Speaker 2: but like no, so now we're gonna have to switch
- 4:01Speaker 2: gears and talk a little shit and get into it.
- 4:04Speaker 2: But like something that kind of hit me and I
- 4:08Speaker 2: know I'm talking a lot Cynthia and then I'll be well,
- 4:11Speaker 2: but like something that really resonated with me today is
- 4:16Speaker 2: a lot of people commented, I think it might be
- 4:18Speaker 2: some of the toxicity you have in your life in
- 4:21Speaker 2: regards to talking about drama or being a part of
- 4:24Speaker 2: the podcast and doing all these things, And like, I
- 4:28Speaker 2: just also want people to hear the other side, Like
- 4:31Speaker 2: do you know how stressed I would be if I
- 4:33Speaker 2: made zero money?
- 4:34Speaker 1: Exactly? Exactly?
- 4:36Speaker 2: Do you know how stressed I would be if I
- 4:38Speaker 2: didn't have these relationships with people like Cynthia or Tamera
- 4:43Speaker 2: or all the other women in my life that are
- 4:47Speaker 2: are fighters as well. And we work really hard to
- 4:51Speaker 2: do this, so it doesn't matter whether we talk shit
- 4:54Speaker 2: on a podcast. At the end of the day, like
- 4:57Speaker 2: we're supporting our families and we're doing what we got
- 4:59Speaker 2: to do. And I love it and I appreciate the
- 5:02Speaker 2: time that I get to share with you guys, because
- 5:05Speaker 2: at least for this For I may be talking shade
- 5:08Speaker 2: for ninety percent of it, but for this little bit
- 5:11Speaker 2: of time, it does make it feel like it's all
- 5:14Speaker 2: worth it, because somebody is going to go to the doctor,
- 5:17Speaker 2: somebody is going to get checked. And these relationships to
- 5:21Speaker 2: me with the listeners and all with Cynthia, with Tamra,
- 5:25Speaker 2: with all of our guests, like it means something to
- 5:27Speaker 2: me and I am grateful for it. So I just
- 5:29Speaker 2: wanted to kind of start with that.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Can I just say something, I just want to say Teddy,
- 5:34Speaker 1: First of all, we love you, Okay. We appreciate you
- 5:38Speaker 1: sharing this journey because I've learned a lot about what
- 5:41Speaker 1: you're going through just from you actually sharing this with
- 5:44Speaker 1: the world, and we are praying for you and we
- 5:48Speaker 1: are rooting for you. Okay. I just recently had a
- 5:51Speaker 1: women's health and wellness retreat in LA and what you're
- 5:54Speaker 1: talking about is exactly why I started this retreat. You know,
- 5:58Speaker 1: we are boss women who work, who need to work,
- 6:04Speaker 1: who are surrounded by the other boss women who sometimes
- 6:08Speaker 1: don't pour enough into themselves take the time to focus
- 6:12Speaker 1: and take care of themselves, and you know it's so
- 6:15Speaker 1: important to get check ups it's so important to share
- 6:18Speaker 1: information with other women and other people as things happen
- 6:22Speaker 1: to us in our lives. You're human, you are human.
- 6:24Speaker 1: You're so strong. You want the strongest women that I know.
- 6:28Speaker 1: And for anyone to say anything negative to you in
- 6:31Speaker 1: this space that you're trying to share this journey and
- 6:35Speaker 1: is just violent. Like, honestly, that's the only word word
- 6:41Speaker 1: that I can think of. So please continue to be
- 6:44Speaker 1: positive and know that you are surrounded by a lot
- 6:48Speaker 1: of love and we are rooting for you and you
- 6:50Speaker 1: are going to get on the other side of this.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. And you know, I'm just
- 6:56Speaker 2: I'm so grateful that like that we do have this out, Like, yeah,
- 7:01Speaker 2: there is a lot of shade and there is those things,
- 7:03Speaker 2: but we get to watch television shows and recap it
- 7:09Speaker 2: as a job, like that's really cool.
- 7:13Speaker 1: We're just commenting on what everybody else is choosing to
- 7:15Speaker 1: put on TV.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Like I'm like, you know, even when we say what
- 7:20Speaker 2: we're exhausted for doing, I'm like, oh, I'm exhausted because
- 7:22Speaker 2: I went to this festival for work and blah blah blah,
- 7:25Speaker 2: And you're like, I'm exhausted because I went to New
- 7:27Speaker 2: York Fashion. Yes, it's all work for us, but like
- 7:30Speaker 2: it's also huge opportunities. And I want anybody listening to
- 7:34Speaker 2: this to know fight. Try to get to all the
- 7:37Speaker 2: things that you can do. Some of them aren't going
- 7:39Speaker 2: to always feel the best. Like there are days that
- 7:42Speaker 2: I finished work and I'm like, oh, that didn't feel
- 7:44Speaker 2: great or that felt amazing or whatever it may be.
- 7:47Speaker 2: But like, in order to succeed, we have to fight.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Absolutely, stay in the fight.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Stay in a fight, because we're all worth it and
- 7:55Speaker 2: you're not alone. It doesn't have to mean that you
- 7:57Speaker 2: have a melanoma spot or you're going through divorce, or
- 8:00Speaker 2: you have this or whatever it may be. As individuals,
- 8:05Speaker 2: like we are going to have highs and lows and
- 8:09Speaker 2: that is just part of life and it's how we
- 8:12Speaker 2: handle it. And like, yeah, we're gonna be emotional. Sometimes
- 8:14Speaker 2: they're gonna be really fun. Sometimes we're gonna be hot messes.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Sometimes that's us, which leads.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Me, speaking of hot mess hot mess, I'm a little
- 8:28Speaker 3: upset because I saw on Virtual Reality that you don't
- 8:34Speaker 3: see a Housewives return and your life at this point,
- 8:38Speaker 3: like this is your quote, Like I just don't have
- 8:42Speaker 3: anything else left.
- 8:43Speaker 2: To give you guys. I disagree. I want you back.
- 8:50Speaker 2: I don't appreciate that kind of negativity about you not
- 8:54Speaker 2: having it else to get Okay.
- 8:58Speaker 1: You know I always say ever say never, but honestly, Teddy,
- 9:02Speaker 1: I can say not. Right now. I'm actually really happy.
- 9:06Speaker 1: I'm really happy in the space that I'm in. You know,
- 9:09Speaker 1: I get to pop in and out when I want to.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I still get to see you guys all the time.
- 9:14Speaker 1: Like a lot of my friends, I have organic friendships
- 9:16Speaker 1: with a lot of the housewives that are on and
- 9:18Speaker 1: off the show. So I'm really good now. I'm having
- 9:21Speaker 1: a good time just kind of you know, focusing on
- 9:24Speaker 1: myself right now and just having some privacy a little bit.
- 9:27Speaker 1: You know, I have sneaking around on dates, not trying
- 9:30Speaker 1: to get caught.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Are you dating more in Atlanta or La?
- 9:35Speaker 1: Well, I would say Atlanta Atlanta right now. I mean,
- 9:41Speaker 1: don't get confused. It's not a line around the door, Okay,
- 9:47Speaker 1: A couple of guys, Okay, that's it. In Atlanta, La.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I did go on a date with someone a while back,
- 9:55Speaker 1: just wasn't any real chemistry. Super nice guy. You know.
- 9:58Speaker 1: At this point, I'm looking for my person. I'm not
- 10:01Speaker 1: going to settle. You know, it doesn't have to be.
- 10:04Speaker 1: You know, I'm not concerned with a serious relationship right now.
- 10:07Speaker 1: I just want to date and I don't want to
- 10:08Speaker 1: have fun. And if I meet my guy, I meet
- 10:11Speaker 1: my guy. But I can't say I'm having a hell
- 10:13Speaker 1: of a lot of fun trying to find this.
- 10:15Speaker 2: Person, trying to find the right one. Well, I have
- 10:17Speaker 2: a question. If you go on a date and you
- 10:18Speaker 2: don't really feel like there's a chemistry, but he reached
- 10:21Speaker 2: in for a kiss at the end, what would you do? Oh,
- 10:25Speaker 2: I mean, it.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Depends on how much I had to drink on the date.
- 10:31Speaker 1: It was a non alcoholic date.
- 10:33Speaker 2: They're not gonna kiss.
- 10:34Speaker 1: If some tequila was involved. They may get a kiss,
- 10:37Speaker 1: but maybe not any tongue action.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Maybe minimal tongue, just like a little lizard a little bit.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I remember, I mean, I still remember my first kiss.
- 10:50Speaker 2: It was at the movie theater, which is such a
- 10:53Speaker 2: weird place to kiss in high school, Like why did
- 10:55Speaker 2: we all go to the movie theater to make out?
- 10:57Speaker 1: But as it was dark in there and you didn't
- 10:59Speaker 1: know the person that will yet probably before we gonna go, Like,
- 11:03Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot of choices about then.
- 11:05Speaker 2: But I remember he had just had Reese's peanut butter cups.
- 11:08Speaker 2: And so my first kiss of life, like with a
- 11:11Speaker 2: you know, not a parent, not at my first like
- 11:15Speaker 2: makeout tongue kiss. It tastes like peanut butter, and it's
- 11:19Speaker 2: still ingrained in my mind to the end of time,
- 11:23Speaker 2: this peanut butter kiss. So I'm very particular about a
- 11:26Speaker 2: first kiss with somebody and if it has any kind
- 11:28Speaker 2: of taste or smell that isn't just.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Copa setic you We're not the chocolate to his peanut butter.
- 11:37Speaker 1: You guys would didn't make a Reca's come together, No,
- 11:40Speaker 1: we did that.
- 11:42Speaker 2: I was like, you should have chosen a different kid,
- 11:45Speaker 2: Sour Patch kids. I maybe could have rolled with.
- 11:47Speaker 1: I know, I know, I hear you. Look, I'm gonna kisser.
- 11:50Speaker 1: I love it. There's nothing like a good kiss. And
- 11:53Speaker 1: I actually believe that a bad kiss is almost a
- 11:56Speaker 1: deal breaker for me, like you're not getting to the
- 11:58Speaker 1: next step, and that kiss is not right. It's stars
- 12:00Speaker 1: with the kiss, it doesn't really go much further if
- 12:03Speaker 1: I'm like, you know.
- 12:05Speaker 2: For me, it's kiss and eye contact, yes for sure,
- 12:09Speaker 2: like before the kiss, like leading up to like more
- 12:12Speaker 2: intimacy stuff. Yeah, Like if you can't look at me
- 12:16Speaker 2: and like be with me in this moment, I'm not
- 12:20Speaker 2: actually into it at all.
- 12:21Speaker 1: No, you can't just roll up on us and just
- 12:23Speaker 1: tongue down our throat. Okay, a connection, I'm just saying.
- 12:31Speaker 2: But we're just we're just saying. If you're not a
- 12:33Speaker 2: good kiss or need not.
- 12:34Speaker 1: Apply, you're not getting any anything else. Don't get what
- 12:40Speaker 1: do they call it? Second base? Third? First base? I know?
- 12:43Speaker 2: But I feel like here's the thing. It depends on
- 12:45Speaker 2: the age generation. When when I say the word hook up,
- 12:49Speaker 2: what does that mean to you? I mean kiss or sex?
- 12:54Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it can mean both. Like
- 12:57Speaker 1: if I'm looking up, I feel like a hookup guns
- 12:59Speaker 1: start off kind of casual, like nothing's really gonna happen,
- 13:02Speaker 1: but could still lead something else. You know, the hookup
- 13:06Speaker 1: can become more serious.
- 13:09Speaker 2: To me, a hookup is making out, but we just
- 13:13Speaker 2: what is working out?
- 13:14Speaker 1: Just like kissing and doing everything.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Except yeah except sex. Yeah, that's hooking up. If I'm
- 13:19Speaker 2: having sex.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, you're going to best include oral
- 13:23Speaker 1: sex or just penetration sex?
- 13:25Speaker 2: Oh to me? Penetration to me? Oral? I don't even
- 13:29Speaker 2: count as sex. That's side. No, I just would say
- 13:36Speaker 2: that's a blowjob. I don't put the word sex to it.
- 13:39Speaker 2: It doesn't add to my number in any way shape
- 13:41Speaker 2: or for jobs.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Definitely don't count. Like that should not even be on
- 13:45Speaker 1: the list. I mean, that's basically just a glorified massage
- 13:49Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Don't think I ever gave one to Fruition.
- 13:57Speaker 1: We have to talk about the show, okay.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Okay, fine, No, we're not gonna talk about the show
- 14:02Speaker 2: yet because something else happened while you were gone in
- 14:07Speaker 2: regards and listen, I'm getting heat for it, and it's
- 14:10Speaker 2: not This isn't me to like go out against your girl.
- 14:13Speaker 2: I don't have this against Sutton smell.
- 14:17Speaker 1: I was gonna I think I smell when this is going.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Okay, But I have to ask you as her friend. Yes,
- 14:25Speaker 2: she constantly is putting out there that she is somebody
- 14:28Speaker 2: that wants to support other women, and she you know,
- 14:33Speaker 2: like all of these things. But yet the first opportunity
- 14:37Speaker 2: that she had to shade Erica's show, she did and
- 14:41Speaker 2: did it tenfold. Do you like check her afterwards or
- 14:45Speaker 2: you just like let us lie?
- 14:47Speaker 1: Well, okay, let me just say this. I am Sutt's friend.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I feel like Sutton definitely. You know, this is a
- 14:56Speaker 1: fun personality. I think, you know, I don't know the
- 14:59Speaker 1: ins and outs her relationship with Erica. I don't know
- 15:02Speaker 1: what I was filmed. I don't know, you know, what
- 15:05Speaker 1: Eric has said about her on the show. I don't
- 15:07Speaker 1: know really honestly, where they're at. We don't really talk
- 15:09Speaker 1: about the show that much, to be honest, So I
- 15:12Speaker 1: just kind of looked at it, like, but surely for
- 15:14Speaker 1: her to say that something has happened between them, and
- 15:17Speaker 1: you know what happens is you know how just win
- 15:18Speaker 1: you're on the show, you throwed it out there, and
- 15:20Speaker 1: then Eric will say something shady back about Sudden. It
- 15:22Speaker 1: is what it is. I didn't think that. I don't
- 15:25Speaker 1: know their relationship to be I don't know them to
- 15:28Speaker 1: be friend friends where that's of limits at this point.
- 15:32Speaker 1: As far as supporting women, you know, I support women,
- 15:36Speaker 1: I can't. You know, I'm just me. I'm just me.
- 15:40Speaker 1: I can't say every friend of mine that half yeah,
- 15:43Speaker 1: it's me. So I think Sudden was just joking around
- 15:47Speaker 1: and just you know, took an opportunity to throw a
- 15:49Speaker 1: little light shade, and I.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Don't know, as you say. Okay, so let's let's put
- 15:55Speaker 2: let's play Devil's advocate.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Okay, oh boy, here we go.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Let's say that you want to your Seagum's escapes. Was
- 16:03Speaker 2: in the was in the already pissed off, you're already pissed.
- 16:08Speaker 2: It's in the wholesale bin at home Goods for one dollar,
- 16:13Speaker 2: right right. I feel the need to bring light to
- 16:17Speaker 2: it and laugh about it at your expense.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that, I get it. I mean, of
- 16:25Speaker 1: course we have feelings.
- 16:26Speaker 2: I think it's I think if she wanted to shade
- 16:29Speaker 2: kind of any other area and listen, after she did
- 16:32Speaker 2: that to Erica, I was pissed and I said, listen
- 16:35Speaker 2: when she's tarp because I know those those lower ticket
- 16:39Speaker 2: seats are like once they're at capacity, they have extra
- 16:42Speaker 2: room and they just want everybody to be able to
- 16:44Speaker 2: come in. I said, there's always been standing room available
- 16:48Speaker 2: at the store, because that's my gut like.
- 16:54Speaker 1: That.
- 16:54Speaker 2: But my problem is, if you are willing to dish
- 16:58Speaker 2: it out, you have to be willing to take it.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 17:02Speaker 2: I don't think she takes it, and that's my issue.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure Sutton knows that after saying what she
- 17:08Speaker 1: has said, that a response coming is on the way
- 17:11Speaker 1: from Erica at some point. That's just how it works,
- 17:14Speaker 1: you know. After being on Atlanta for eleven years, trust
- 17:16Speaker 1: and believe, Like I opened several businesses throughout while I
- 17:20Speaker 1: was on the show, and ninety percent of them were
- 17:23Speaker 1: shaded in some way by a cast member. Like even
- 17:26Speaker 1: for my first business, the Bailey Agency School of Fashion,
- 17:29Speaker 1: I think Fedra was the one at the reading and
- 17:31Speaker 1: she was, you know, making fun of it, like whatever.
- 17:34Speaker 1: So I think when you're on a TV show and
- 17:36Speaker 1: we talked about this all the time, Teddy, you know
- 17:38Speaker 1: it just you just have to, like, you know, expect
- 17:42Speaker 1: some kind of shade or whatever. I don't know them
- 17:44Speaker 1: to be super close at this time, so I'm just saying, hey, Sutton,
- 17:48Speaker 1: through it out there. I'm sure there's gonna be a
- 17:49Speaker 1: response coming, and then sudden can respond.
- 17:52Speaker 2: At that time, I think it were I mean, Sutton
- 17:54Speaker 2: needs to come on the pod, because I had Erica
- 17:56Speaker 2: on and asked about Sutton and she had a very
- 18:00Speaker 2: diplomatic answer about Sutton and met her just she didn't
- 18:04Speaker 2: really give us anything right, right, And that was a
- 18:08Speaker 2: couple of weeks prior, and then that happened. I was like,
- 18:11Speaker 2: and Erica gave me a lot in that interview, so.
- 18:13Speaker 1: For her to hold interview, I thought an interview. I
- 18:17Speaker 1: thought did a great job in an interview.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's Those are just always the moments. I'm like,
- 18:21Speaker 2: all right, if one person's not auditioning and the other
- 18:24Speaker 2: person's edition, what's going on here? Are you pandering to Twitter?
- 18:27Speaker 2: Which is always my issue because listen, Well, maybe it's
- 18:32Speaker 2: because I just can't pander to Twitter. I'm so far
- 18:34Speaker 2: gone from Twitter.
- 18:35Speaker 1: I'm afraid of Twitter.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Do they hate me so much? I guess it's not
- 18:41Speaker 2: even Twitter anymore. I don't know.
- 18:43Speaker 1: I don't even wat. I don't even want to go
- 18:45Speaker 1: in there and check and see if they hate me.
- 18:47Speaker 1: That's how afraid I am. I'm like, I just feel like,
- 18:49Speaker 1: let me just I just stick to Instagram and call
- 18:51Speaker 1: it a day.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you they don't. You're also in
- 18:58Speaker 2: a picture.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Which I didn't bite sudden to come on the show.
- 19:02Speaker 2: Out I'll house your response.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Well, uh, we shouldn't hold that breath at this time,
- 19:09Speaker 1: but I didn't later to come. She didn't completely shut
- 19:14Speaker 1: it down, but I don't think it's gonna be any
- 19:18Speaker 1: time soon. But I'm still so.
- 19:20Speaker 2: We're not We're not all going to be painting each
- 19:22Speaker 2: other's nails and braiding our hair and giving each other
- 19:25Speaker 2: hand massages anytime soon.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Maybe in twenty twenty four because twenty twenty three probably not.
- 19:33Speaker 1: But I did ask as I was told to do,
- 19:36Speaker 1: and I will continue to circle back and I'll keep
- 19:38Speaker 1: you posting it. You know what.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Every once in a while, just I'll send a little text,
- 19:42Speaker 2: ready to come on.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Stay on her ass about this.
- 19:45Speaker 2: We're gonna say, you know what, here's the thing about me.
- 19:48Speaker 2: I am relentless. Like people want to respond to me.
- 19:52Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll just delete that text, pretend to never
- 19:54Speaker 2: have to keep going. Hey, just checking ud.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Go, didn't ask it out, gentle, nudge me again.
- 20:05Speaker 2: It's your bestie, best for the rest. I also saw
- 20:12Speaker 2: that you were in a photo with jen Aiden, Teresa Drenda, Luanne,
- 20:15Speaker 2: Ashley Darby and Dolores at your betting line event, which amazing.
- 20:21Speaker 2: And where do people find the betting what do they do?
- 20:24Speaker 1: Well? For now, they can go to my ig. It's
- 20:28Speaker 1: the link is in my bio and they can you know,
- 20:30Speaker 1: access the website from there. I don't know how to
- 20:33Speaker 1: set it up on Shopify yet. Actually, when I get
- 20:36Speaker 1: off with you, that is one of the things that
- 20:38Speaker 1: I need to do today. I have to have somebody
- 20:40Speaker 1: walk me through it. And my system was supposed to
- 20:42Speaker 1: come in today, but she's still on her birthday vacation.
- 20:46Speaker 1: She's coming back tomorrow, so I'm still getting together. But
- 20:48Speaker 1: we did put it out there. The launch was incredible.
- 20:50Speaker 1: I was so excited, you know, for the ladies to
- 20:53Speaker 1: come and support me, and they did. We had We
- 20:56Speaker 1: had a great time. Carson was there. Carson oh house,
- 20:59Speaker 1: Carson great. He's great. I didn't get a chance to
- 21:01Speaker 1: really talk to him. I was saying, you know, we
- 21:03Speaker 1: have to like go to dinner, but I was like, yeah,
- 21:05Speaker 1: you know, it was like I get to I see
- 21:06Speaker 1: I feel like I see you all the time because
- 21:08Speaker 1: of the pot. But yeah, it was good to see everybody,
- 21:10Speaker 1: and it was I'm really excited about doing this venture
- 21:14Speaker 1: with Sutton. I love the idea of, like, you know,
- 21:16Speaker 1: having these sustainable products that we're bringing to the forefront
- 21:20Speaker 1: where you know a lot of people don't realize you
- 21:23Speaker 1: know when you have these like say like right now,
- 21:26Speaker 1: I'm starting with betting. I want to get into like
- 21:28Speaker 1: have robes and just like anything that's out that people
- 21:32Speaker 1: are not selling or returning and relabeling this stuff and
- 21:35Speaker 1: reselling it again because otherwise it ends up in landfills
- 21:39Speaker 1: and all this stuff and just environment. It's just it's
- 21:42Speaker 1: a problem.
- 21:43Speaker 2: So and it's really such a smart idea.
- 21:46Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, it's amazing. And if I'm going
- 21:48Speaker 1: to be in this space, I think this is a
- 21:51Speaker 1: way to do it where you know you can do
- 21:52Speaker 1: it a little bit, you can do it to just
- 21:54Speaker 1: help save the earth. Well.
- 21:55Speaker 2: And I also think about that saying which I think
- 21:58Speaker 2: about often is like one man's trash is another man's treasure.
- 22:02Speaker 1: It is the truth, it is.
- 22:05Speaker 2: But how many times do we have something and I'm like,
- 22:09Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I'm never gonna wear this again, blah blah,
- 22:12Speaker 2: and then you hit give it twenty friends to like,
- 22:14Speaker 2: that is the most beautiful dress I've ever seen. I
- 22:16Speaker 2: want it blah blah blah. Okay, But anyways, so they're
- 22:22Speaker 2: moving us right along right into wanting to know about
- 22:27Speaker 2: Kim Zulziak.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Yep.
- 22:30Speaker 2: She is set to join the eighth season of MTV's
- 22:34Speaker 2: The Surreal Life, right, I've read that other cast includes
- 22:40Speaker 2: Macy Gray, Chat Hanks, and Johnny Weir.
- 22:45Speaker 1: Uh.
- 22:45Speaker 2: The Surreal Life is a real world type show that
- 22:47Speaker 2: puts celebrities together in a house and given group activities
- 22:50Speaker 2: to accomplish things together. Okay, knowing that Kim never even
- 22:54Speaker 2: really went on cast trips, how do you think she's
- 22:57Speaker 2: going to do locked up in a house the other
- 23:01Speaker 2: people it's not even women.
- 23:02Speaker 1: Well, first of all, hopefully there won't be a cast trip,
- 23:06Speaker 1: so they'll just take that out of the equation. We'll
- 23:07Speaker 1: just get to hang out in the house. I don't
- 23:09Speaker 1: know how it works, but I will say, you know,
- 23:13Speaker 1: Kim needs to get back to work, like, you know,
- 23:15Speaker 1: all her you know, businesses have been out there. You know,
- 23:18Speaker 1: she's obviously going through a divorce. She's obviously going through
- 23:21Speaker 1: some financial issues and stuff like that. I've been down
- 23:23Speaker 1: that road divorce and financial issues some at the same time,
- 23:27Speaker 1: so I completely relate to what's happening, you know. So
- 23:31Speaker 1: I'm really glad to see her just getting back on
- 23:33Speaker 1: TV and just put herself back out there. It's it's
- 23:37Speaker 1: not fun to watch people go through that stuff. At
- 23:39Speaker 1: the end of the day, regardless of you know, what's
- 23:44Speaker 1: happening with her. She's great TV. She's a great TV
- 23:46Speaker 1: and I think she's perfect for a show like this.
- 23:48Speaker 2: Oh perfect. All right, Well then I'm gonna need to
- 23:50Speaker 2: tune in. Let's take a little break, and then we're
- 23:53Speaker 2: gonna come back and talk all things Orange County Real
- 24:06Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County. Best moments from you guys. The
- 24:10Speaker 2: first one is Jen asked if she can hear what's
- 24:13Speaker 2: in the vault in regards to Shannon. She said Shannon
- 24:17Speaker 2: says that when she and John first got together, they
- 24:19Speaker 2: spent every day together, but now there's always an excuse.
- 24:23Speaker 2: John continuously walks out on arguments. Okay, do you feel
- 24:28Speaker 2: like Shannon's being fully transparent now or is there more
- 24:32Speaker 2: in the vault?
- 24:34Speaker 1: No? I do not feel like Shannon's being fully transparent.
- 24:37Speaker 1: I think she's brick rumming us the whole way here.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Get a little bit more information every episode about what's
- 24:44Speaker 1: going on in that relationship.
- 24:46Speaker 2: I mean, she barely even gave us any spare change
- 24:49Speaker 2: from the bottom of her purse, Like I was, like,
- 24:52Speaker 2: John leaves after they are you.
- 24:54Speaker 1: Know shit, Okay, let's talk about the ball. I think
- 24:58Speaker 1: there needs to be an episode where the girl go
- 25:00Speaker 1: in and just clean out this damn vault. Already. I
- 25:02Speaker 1: want to know what's in there, and I want it
- 25:04Speaker 1: out on this show. I am so sick of hearing
- 25:06Speaker 1: about how do you have a whole reality show and
- 25:09Speaker 1: everything gets to stand the vault?
- 25:10Speaker 2: Like, how does that happen? It's also I would have
- 25:14Speaker 2: a vault. Nobody's respected my vault. Ever, It's like, I
- 25:21Speaker 2: think the.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Vault should not be a thing. I think if her
- 25:24Speaker 1: butt is on a reality show, I can't they're the vault.
- 25:28Speaker 1: The vault has to go away. And John just really
- 25:30Speaker 1: quickly about John. So Noel is like studying to be Noel.
- 25:34Speaker 1: My daughter is sending to me a therapist, right, so
- 25:36Speaker 1: she's always telling me about all these different things and
- 25:38Speaker 1: what they mean. Right. So I was just thinking about John. Uh,
- 25:42Speaker 1: and not that I'm a therapist, but you know, Noel
- 25:45Speaker 1: was in training to be one. But she was saying
- 25:47Speaker 1: how she was dating this guy that had an avoided
- 25:50Speaker 1: attachment style, which means they're just not comfortable like talking
- 25:54Speaker 1: about their feelings and whatever whatever. So I was like,
- 25:56Speaker 1: maybe just maybe this is what's happening. But John, maybe
- 26:02Speaker 1: he just doesn't want to show his emotions and feelings.
- 26:05Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out,
- 26:08Speaker 1: which is why Shanna, you gotta give us a little
- 26:09Speaker 1: bit more to work with. I cannot have my child
- 26:12Speaker 1: try to diagnose it. Help me diagnose what's happening now.
- 26:17Speaker 2: No, well, I'm I so whatever. This is gonna sound
- 26:20Speaker 2: very healthy. But whenever I'm really stressed, I like to
- 26:23Speaker 2: watch murder shows. So, oh my gosh, you have to watch.
- 26:29Speaker 2: It's on Paramount Plus. Yes, I splurge an additional five
- 26:33Speaker 2: ninety nine a month for another streaming network. Just hand
- 26:39Speaker 2: over my money. Make it a rain over to Paramount Plus.
- 26:42Speaker 2: To watch the Fatal Attraction television show remake.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am so on it like a pig.
- 26:52Speaker 1: As soon as I get done.
- 26:53Speaker 2: With this, it's so good. So it's gonna make me
- 26:56Speaker 2: overuse words like, you know, like our favor or gaslight,
- 27:01Speaker 2: or like narcissism or any of these types of things.
- 27:05Speaker 2: But as I was watching it, you can see there
- 27:08Speaker 2: are from Fatal Attraction. The scripted television series told me
- 27:14Speaker 2: is that when you have a narcissistic parent, you crave
- 27:20Speaker 2: that like love and attention from the person that you
- 27:25Speaker 2: end up with.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Yes.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Yes, So now I want to like go back and
- 27:29Speaker 2: research Shannon's family, Like I need to know every crumb
- 27:34Speaker 2: of her parents Like this, I'm like, what, because there
- 27:37Speaker 2: there is you. You watch people's picker and if they
- 27:42Speaker 2: keep picking the same then you're like, is it your
- 27:44Speaker 2: upbringing or is it just your choice? Or either way?
- 27:50Speaker 2: I agree? I agree with your daughter. There's a lot
- 27:52Speaker 2: to really break down here, which I think will get
- 27:54Speaker 2: more into it once we get into like the bathing
- 27:56Speaker 2: suit aspect of what Shannon was going through on this
- 28:00Speaker 2: trip they go on. But then this part, Shannon asked
- 28:05Speaker 2: Tamra if it is okay to use her daughter's purse.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Tarmra says, as long as it's not like Jen's fake
- 28:13Speaker 2: Chanel purse. Tamra says that Jen was a yoga mom
- 28:17Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden she's covered in fake
- 28:19Speaker 2: designer clothes. Do you carry their way? Like? Have you
- 28:24Speaker 2: ever bought a knockoff product? Do you judge people that do?
- 28:27Speaker 2: I mean, I truly can't tell if something's from Amazon
- 28:30Speaker 2: or Target, let alone fake Schanel. So I don't know
- 28:35Speaker 2: the only.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Way I will have a burken bag is this is
- 28:38Speaker 1: if it's a fake one, because I'm never gonna pay
- 28:41Speaker 1: the money that it costs to good real one.
- 28:43Speaker 2: But would you actually carry the fake one? What say?
- 28:47Speaker 1: Absolutely?
- 28:49Speaker 2: Oh, well I can give you one of those. I know, right,
- 28:52Speaker 2: where do you get up? Yeah?
- 28:53Speaker 1: Hook me up? Well, you know what, I lived in
- 28:55Speaker 1: New York, you know, we Connect Street. They had all
- 28:59Speaker 1: the fig stuff, and look, you gotta start somewhere. If
- 29:01Speaker 1: you can't afford the real stuff, you start with the
- 29:03Speaker 1: fake stuff until you can afford the real stuff. And
- 29:06Speaker 1: then if it's a good fake, you can kind of
- 29:07Speaker 1: mix it all up, you know, don't just I you know,
- 29:09Speaker 1: I would give my like fake stuff to like my
- 29:11Speaker 1: mom whatever. After Yeah, it was able to afford the
- 29:14Speaker 1: good stuff, But don't sleep on a good fake.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Do not question? Would you admit?
- 29:20Speaker 1: So?
- 29:20Speaker 2: For example, like the other day, I went out to
- 29:23Speaker 2: like this tea party event. I wore I like an
- 29:26Speaker 2: a fairly expensive dress, a nice bag, and my shoes
- 29:30Speaker 2: were Amazon Botega Venetta Dupes. I linked my shoes because
- 29:35Speaker 2: there were twenty five dollars. But I made it clear
- 29:40Speaker 2: I'm not trying to pretend these are the real deal. Right,
- 29:43Speaker 2: do you think that when somebody wears fake, they need
- 29:46Speaker 2: to do that or is that just my own? Like
- 29:48Speaker 2: I'm the same way about like having my necklace, Like
- 29:50Speaker 2: I'm like I have to give people all the information
- 29:52Speaker 2: because I don't want to feel like I'm a fraud.
- 29:54Speaker 1: I think if you're on a TV show where you
- 29:56Speaker 1: have shady bitches that are going to actually an a
- 30:00Speaker 1: I think you might want to come in with that.
- 30:04Speaker 1: I think if you wait to let me say it again,
- 30:06Speaker 1: if you're on show where you have shady bitches analyzing
- 30:09Speaker 1: everything that you're wearing, I think you might want to
- 30:11Speaker 1: come in with that disclaimer already. Like, look, I know
- 30:14Speaker 1: the sweatshirt is fat. I mean you need to come
- 30:16Speaker 1: in up, just come in out of the gate and
- 30:18Speaker 1: own it. I know my sweatshirt is fake, but hey,
- 30:22Speaker 1: I'm loving it.
- 30:22Speaker 2: It's mine, it's cute.
- 30:24Speaker 1: I can afford the real But here's the thing. You
- 30:26Speaker 1: know you can some people can afford the real stuff.
- 30:29Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out here wearing fake stuff
- 30:32Speaker 1: who are rich people, and we would never question them
- 30:35Speaker 1: because they can actually afford it.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Yeah, but like I buy fake cheap. I don't know
- 30:40Speaker 2: if they're fake dupes. It's different. The dupes do not
- 30:46Speaker 2: there's a difference between dupes and fake. Like my I
- 30:49Speaker 2: don't wear anything with logos, Like this is not fake
- 30:53Speaker 2: because it has an actual logo. But if something has
- 30:56Speaker 2: the same aesthetic and I can find it on Amazon
- 30:59Speaker 2: for cheaper and it's a sandal that I'm gonna get
- 31:02Speaker 2: wet and ruin for, damn sure, I'm happy to wear it.
- 31:05Speaker 2: But if it has a logo, that's kind of where
- 31:09Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need to necessarily wear the logo.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I'm cool to just that's true. If it has the logo,
- 31:16Speaker 1: I think you have to stand on it a little
- 31:17Speaker 1: stronger because you know those air Miss sandals that everybody wears,
- 31:21Speaker 1: a little flatmos like a little.
- 31:22Speaker 2: Ages with the age. Yeah, that always falls.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Off the Steam Madden version of it. I can't tell
- 31:28Speaker 1: the damn difference. I can tell the difference. No one's
- 31:31Speaker 1: ever questioning the no one's ever questioned them, no one's
- 31:34Speaker 1: ever asked me about those. So I will just keep
- 31:37Speaker 1: wearing those until somebody calls me out on those. But
- 31:39Speaker 1: they don't have the logo on them, but they look.
- 31:41Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's the I think the general rule.
- 31:43Speaker 2: But if you're wearing head to toe logos. That's where
- 31:47Speaker 2: it gets a little iffy for me. Yeah, hedge to
- 31:50Speaker 2: toe logos if the logos are fake and they don't
- 31:53Speaker 2: match up, like, I notice it now because after like
- 31:56Speaker 2: the Balenciaga scandal, then I started noticing when people were
- 31:59Speaker 2: in fake I didn't actually notice. Bloggers would post it
- 32:02Speaker 2: and then I would see it and I'd be like, oh,
- 32:04Speaker 2: who would know? But it is. I feel like it's
- 32:09Speaker 2: foreshadowing to something else, just like that, there's not full transparency.
- 32:16Speaker 2: But who on Atlanta War fake and who were real?
- 32:19Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
- 32:22Speaker 2: I'd know that you just dodged another question sent I.
- 32:26Speaker 1: Mean again, I don't know the difference. I just know
- 32:30Speaker 1: I don't think everybody came on the show being able
- 32:33Speaker 1: to afford. I just thought everyone that was on the
- 32:36Speaker 1: show probably didn't come on being able to afford everything
- 32:39Speaker 1: they were rocking. So I'm just owning my shit. I
- 32:42Speaker 1: know I am the knockof Queen. Thank God. I think
- 32:48Speaker 1: I can pull most things off. I kind of stand
- 32:50Speaker 1: a safe fashion lane. Just keep it to the basics
- 32:53Speaker 1: and wear a lot of black. It's hard to clock black,
- 32:56Speaker 1: It's hard, that's true. Hello, no way logos there you go, okay, black,
- 33:03Speaker 1: all right? But then and you know, the editing is
- 33:05Speaker 1: always so shady because they showed jin and with like
- 33:08Speaker 1: some cape on was it Belinciaga?
- 33:11Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was like oh but with like a
- 33:14Speaker 2: turtleneck that's also matching underneath, and like forty two other
- 33:17Speaker 2: things like also, I don't know, but I just feel
- 33:21Speaker 2: like there's something I don't know. I feel like you
- 33:24Speaker 2: have to take the piss out of yourself at some point.
- 33:26Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like a British saying or whatever,
- 33:28Speaker 2: but like you have to be like, how cute is
- 33:30Speaker 2: this knockoff? Like you have? If you're gonna go for it,
- 33:33Speaker 2: you have to go for it, but ow it own it.
- 33:37Speaker 2: But I do need to know before they go on
- 33:39Speaker 2: this trip. It didn't go unnoticed to me that Tamra
- 33:43Speaker 2: picked the best body type for her fake swimsuit. Like
- 33:48Speaker 2: she was ripped in her swimsuit, like the ones with
- 33:51Speaker 2: all the hair and the tents and the body. I
- 33:54Speaker 2: was like, tam you picked yourself a good one.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Listen, TAM's not a slow bird, Okay, she definitely this
- 34:01Speaker 1: is not her first rodeo. I think when those when
- 34:03Speaker 1: those swimsuits were presented, I'm sure I went right to
- 34:07Speaker 1: the best. One is not a fool, Okay, she's not.
- 34:12Speaker 2: She's well, she just posted a picture. When you first
- 34:16Speaker 2: started to like scroll on Instagram, I was like, Dan,
- 34:19Speaker 2: Jam's ripped. I'm like, that's exactly.
- 34:23Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that Tammar didn't go for the moment
- 34:25Speaker 1: with the hairy.
- 34:26Speaker 2: Chance, but I wanted to like tap the link to
- 34:30Speaker 2: shop on that one because I was like, she got
- 34:32Speaker 2: a six pack. Okay, So they're on the trip. Vicky
- 34:36Speaker 2: knocks on the door and surprises Tamar and Shannon. Shannon says,
- 34:40Speaker 2: having the Trace and me gets back together is everything.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Then Gina calls him the trace Abuelas, which is Grandma's.
- 34:51Speaker 2: I have to say, if I opened the door and
- 34:54Speaker 2: Vicky screamed like that, I would appeed myself to I.
- 34:57Speaker 1: Know, did someone peed himself? So yeah, it will come
- 35:01Speaker 1: out right.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Like that was. I was like, ship, I'm not even there,
- 35:10Speaker 2: and I felt like my pets got sweaty.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Hilarious. I think Vicky was a nice if anything. You know,
- 35:18Speaker 1: first of all, Vicky is a good time and she's
- 35:20Speaker 1: always like, you know, she's always seems like a fun
- 35:23Speaker 1: one to throw it throw in on a girl's trip,
- 35:26Speaker 1: and a nice distraction for I would say, I don't
- 35:30Speaker 1: know how happy I was, but I know Heather was
- 35:32Speaker 1: probably very happy. She's like it was a fun distraction
- 35:38Speaker 1: away from her because you know, they've just been on her.
- 35:41Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that. I'm sure Heather was like,
- 35:44Speaker 2: thank you, thank you, Victoria, give me a break, come
- 35:49Speaker 2: in and try to get your freaking orange backed.
- 35:52Speaker 1: No, Heather probably flew in on her private plane, but.
- 35:57Speaker 2: Are you kidding? She just hung from like for the propeller,
- 36:00Speaker 2: like on the side.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about that. I was like, I
- 36:08Speaker 1: love Vicky, but I'm sure Heather is loving her even
- 36:11Speaker 1: more than I am at this point, just for showing
- 36:13Speaker 1: up and distracting, you know, taking the heat off of
- 36:16Speaker 1: her a little bit, because they are just on this Heather.
- 36:19Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Heather earlier in the day, Heather said
- 36:23Speaker 2: that Emily looked like a snuffle up a gus in
- 36:26Speaker 2: a good way. Okay, just just to be clear, because
- 36:31Speaker 2: I had to I got platypus and snuffle up a
- 36:34Speaker 2: gas confused, so I had to just uhalous, snuffle up
- 36:40Speaker 2: a gush. Snuffle up, I guess.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Snuffle up a gus.
- 36:48Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, snuffle up, I guess it's a hairy elephant
- 36:52Speaker 2: where a platypus is like those long like my nails,
- 36:56Speaker 2: like after I bite them, they look like platypuses sometimes
- 36:59Speaker 2: because they like got it. So I had to google.
- 37:03Speaker 2: I also had to ask.
- 37:06Speaker 1: Just so I could just know exactly what it because
- 37:09Speaker 1: I said it was like a big hairy elephant.
- 37:13Speaker 2: It's from It's from Sesame Street. Yes, yes, essentially, I necessarily,
- 37:20Speaker 2: I probably don't necessarily want to be compared to any
- 37:22Speaker 2: of the muppets. Like one of my best friends, like
- 37:26Speaker 2: her husband, whenever he's in a bad mood, we call
- 37:28Speaker 2: him Kermit, and like he always I don't know, but
- 37:33Speaker 2: he's always like, I don't want to be Kermit. I'm like, well,
- 37:37Speaker 2: then don't be so crouchy.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Well I will. What I did notice in my Google
- 37:41Speaker 1: research is that the snuff is and I'm still saying.
- 37:47Speaker 2: It wrong, but the stuff.
- 37:50Speaker 1: The snuff guy, the snuff Muffet, is by far the
- 37:54Speaker 1: most unattractive one in the in the bunch for sure.
- 37:57Speaker 2: Well he's a big, hairy elephant.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way, even as a joke at this
- 38:02Speaker 1: point that you could that it'd be a complimens.
- 38:05Speaker 2: I mean, how would you react to be calling to
- 38:08Speaker 2: be called a snuffle up?
- 38:09Speaker 1: I guess not well, not well.
- 38:13Speaker 2: But even when you see Emily, try to like have
- 38:16Speaker 2: that conversation later, Heather's like.
- 38:20Speaker 1: I m hmm. You look at this thing and like
- 38:25Speaker 1: you can't say, well, it has a long thing, but
- 38:27Speaker 1: it has cute eyes. Oh what has this? But has
- 38:29Speaker 1: nice hair? There's nothing about this character that is attractive.
- 38:35Speaker 2: Like if you want to compare me to like a
- 38:37Speaker 2: golden retriever, great, like you're so sweet and loving and kind.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Granted most people wouldn't. They'd be like, she's like a chihuahuah.
- 38:47Speaker 1: I'm a part of the birds family. I know I
- 38:50Speaker 1: look like an ostrich you know what I mean. I
- 38:53Speaker 1: know that I own that. But don't try to give
- 38:56Speaker 1: me another animal that I'm not. Don't call me big
- 38:59Speaker 1: bird exactly, but it's still in the bird family. Don't
- 39:03Speaker 1: just over to the like the seals and the warricks
- 39:06Speaker 1: and stuff like that, because that's not my I know
- 39:09Speaker 1: my family.
- 39:10Speaker 2: So well, you're lucky to be tall. I'm more squished
- 39:13Speaker 2: into the smaller, shorter, more annoying insect family group. But
- 39:26Speaker 2: I feel like Emily like gave it. She let her
- 39:29Speaker 2: have it, like kay, like she just let her like Okay, yeah,
- 39:33Speaker 2: you're not going to take any accountability for this, so
- 39:35Speaker 2: we're just going to keep it moving. But then then
- 39:41Speaker 2: we get to what was that lunch or dinner where
- 39:45Speaker 2: they do the like truth or Dare? Oh yeah, it
- 39:50Speaker 2: was dinner, So they do truth or Dare and Vicky
- 39:54Speaker 2: tells Jen that they so Jen draws Vicky or whatever happens,
- 40:00Speaker 2: and she says, uh, truth or dare and Vicky truth
- 40:05Speaker 2: chooses truth, and then Jen goes, oh, shoot, well then
- 40:08Speaker 2: somebody else should ask you because I don't know you that well,
- 40:11Speaker 2: which I thought was a normal way to handle it.
- 40:14Speaker 2: But then Vicky chose this moment to go over to
- 40:18Speaker 2: freaking Trader Joe's and grab her orange, rip it out
- 40:25Speaker 2: of the thing, put it on the scale, and pay
- 40:29Speaker 2: for it. She's like, evolution and I can still stirt.
- 40:35Speaker 2: I'm still gonna strict when I know it or not.
- 40:38Speaker 2: And she says with her fifty nine cent orange that
- 40:43Speaker 2: she's put in her pocket that she's just purchased you know,
- 40:49Speaker 2: I've gone through a situation where I love a man
- 40:53Speaker 2: who may not be the right man or love me back,
- 40:56Speaker 2: or be the right person, and so have you. That's true.
- 41:00Speaker 1: There, I don't want to play this game, like listen,
- 41:04Speaker 1: let me tell you something. I think Vicky actually meant well,
- 41:09Speaker 1: and it was a moment.
- 41:10Speaker 2: You know you have to graduate, please, She did not
- 41:12Speaker 2: mean well.
- 41:13Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I do think she because it's true.
- 41:15Speaker 1: She has you know, she could relate to the situation.
- 41:20Speaker 1: The problem is she doesn't know Ryan or the.
- 41:23Speaker 2: Situation so clear.
- 41:27Speaker 1: How were you speaking on something that you have no
- 41:30Speaker 1: knowledge or of secondhand knowledge at best, which we all
- 41:34Speaker 1: figured out. I was not easy to figure out. It
- 41:35Speaker 1: came from Tamra to have this moment. With this moment,
- 41:39Speaker 1: it's like me picking up my phone and called and said, hey,
- 41:44Speaker 1: you know, because I've been doing too Hey, no, you
- 41:46Speaker 1: don't really know me, but I do a podcast with
- 41:48Speaker 1: Teddy millencare talk about you all the time. I just
- 41:52Speaker 1: felt like I needed to pick up the phone and
- 41:54Speaker 1: call you and tell you that, you know, I've also
- 41:58Speaker 1: been in similar situation and I'm just gonna I'm here
- 42:03Speaker 1: to just break your whole little situation down like that
- 42:06Speaker 1: is crazy, Like I actually had more right to call
- 42:10Speaker 1: this woman who I've never met, Jen and talk to them,
- 42:14Speaker 1: talk to her. I actually had more right to call
- 42:16Speaker 1: Jen than VICKI did to bring it up at the
- 42:18Speaker 1: tooth of Deer.
- 42:19Speaker 2: Police are publicly talking about it.
- 42:24Speaker 1: At least, I feel like I know Ryan. I've never
- 42:26Speaker 1: met him, but I feel like I talk about his jackets,
- 42:29Speaker 1: like I feel like I know Vicky wouldn't be able
- 42:32Speaker 1: to pick this guy out of a lineup. I'm more invested.
- 42:36Speaker 1: So how the hell is Vicky gonna go and bring
- 42:40Speaker 1: this up again? Well, how the hell is Bicky gonna
- 42:43Speaker 1: come show up to the trip that she you know,
- 42:46Speaker 1: whoever invited her to Tamfrid's Termer's trip of course. Okay, okay,
- 42:52Speaker 1: and take this moment, this fun moment. How do we
- 42:55Speaker 1: go from licking nipples face to never back to Jen
- 42:59Speaker 1: and Ryan?
- 43:00Speaker 2: I hear just then it really escalates from here, shocking
- 43:07Speaker 2: term of events, Yeah it does. Oh gosh, I haven't
- 43:23Speaker 2: snorted ever on the pod.
- 43:25Speaker 1: That's when I like, really, I can't crying, like.
- 43:29Speaker 2: I've now I've cried twice on the pod. Now people
- 43:31Speaker 2: are gonna come for me, cry baby all the things.
- 43:36Speaker 2: But then it's like you start to see like everyone's
- 43:39Speaker 2: rage is forming, like Victoria has brought the rage. But
- 43:46Speaker 2: then also the best is like they panned to the
- 43:48Speaker 2: confessional where Vicky's like, yeah, obviously it starts with the
- 43:51Speaker 2: t and ends with an amor told me or whatever
- 43:53Speaker 2: the hell she said, and then Taram was like, yeah, so.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Is the orange in my hand? Anyways, anybody wants to
- 44:13Speaker 1: vite delicious? Okay, then we get to.
- 44:20Speaker 2: Oh, gosh, this is where things Okay. Also, we do
- 44:24Speaker 2: need to take note that they tried to burn down
- 44:28Speaker 2: the hotel and then Taylor had to put the candle
- 44:35Speaker 2: in the champagne ice and then take all the candle wax.
- 44:40Speaker 2: Like all this is happening post shit's going down, I'm like,
- 44:43Speaker 2: what the hell am I watching here? But somehow Taylor's
- 44:46Speaker 2: keeping it together. But then the next day, apparently because
- 44:49Speaker 2: Taylor was on her like she wasn't a post Craig's night,
- 44:53Speaker 2: she's able to retain information on this current time. She
- 44:58Speaker 2: shares that Shannon got very emotional the night before because
- 45:02Speaker 2: she is insecure of her body. Shannon thinks that she
- 45:06Speaker 2: will be left out of the group if she can't
- 45:08Speaker 2: wear a swimsuit. Shannon thinks she will be more objectified
- 45:12Speaker 2: for putting on weight because she used to be very thin.
- 45:15Speaker 2: Emily thinks that John is very critical of her. What
- 45:19Speaker 2: are your thoughts on this? Do you think that Shannon
- 45:22Speaker 2: has the same insecurities that most people have or do
- 45:24Speaker 2: you think that John amplifies those insecurities the way he's
- 45:28Speaker 2: like rumored to speak off camera.
- 45:31Speaker 1: I think us as women, we all have insecurities. Most
- 45:34Speaker 1: of us have insecurities when it comes to our body.
- 45:37Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us go up and down
- 45:39Speaker 1: or our weight, and obviously everyone feels a little more
- 45:41Speaker 1: secure when they are at a weight that they want
- 45:44Speaker 1: to be at. So that's like nothing, you know, that's
- 45:48Speaker 1: that's all of us. You know, Shannon's exclusive and feeling that,
- 45:52Speaker 1: But in terms of how John makes her feel, I
- 45:55Speaker 1: don't really know what he said off camera. I don't
- 45:57Speaker 1: know if he said something that's in the ball whatever. Yeah,
- 46:02Speaker 1: I just know just watching watch sh trying.
- 46:06Speaker 2: To lay laugh there For me, I don't know why
- 46:08Speaker 2: it took me a second.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Because I was like, I don't know what he said.
- 46:10Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe it's in the bolt. I don't know,
- 46:12Speaker 1: but from what I can tell, just from how Shannon is,
- 46:16Speaker 1: I definitely for me, it's always Shannon, just any mention
- 46:20Speaker 1: of his name, just feeling this anxiety and this just uncomfortable.
- 46:25Speaker 1: This relationship just makes me. I just haven't gotten comfortable
- 46:29Speaker 1: with them yet because they haven't allowed me to be comfortable.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Because yeah, like anytime his name comes up, it just
- 46:35Speaker 1: ends up like where's the exit? And I don't know,
- 46:38Speaker 1: I mean, has he said something about her weight?
- 46:41Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, here's the thing. And I'm
- 46:44Speaker 2: somebody who has gone up and weight and down and
- 46:46Speaker 2: weeight my entire life and struggled with kind of figuring
- 46:51Speaker 2: out where I'm the most comfortable, and like I would
- 46:53Speaker 2: be bold face lying to you if I said that
- 46:59Speaker 2: I didn't care what people said about my weight, whether
- 47:02Speaker 2: it's I'm too skinny, or I'm too big, or I'm
- 47:04Speaker 2: too this, I'm too that, all of it weighs into it.
- 47:07Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's like about like the
- 47:11Speaker 2: time in which we where I kind of grew up
- 47:14Speaker 2: where people were more comfortable to say things. So I
- 47:19Speaker 2: grew up and you know, I grew up in a
- 47:21Speaker 2: sport where you needed to be a certain aesthetic riding horses,
- 47:25Speaker 2: and you're wearing these skin tight tan breeches, and anytime
- 47:29Speaker 2: I would gain a couple ounces, people would comment, and
- 47:31Speaker 2: so like, I understand all of those insecurities. And something
- 47:37Speaker 2: I learned when I went on Beverly Hills that I
- 47:39Speaker 2: would always say to the women was like we would
- 47:43Speaker 2: we would go to a water feature and nobody would
- 47:47Speaker 2: get in or nobody would do anything. And I'm like,
- 47:50Speaker 2: this was off camera stuff, but I would say, like, guys,
- 47:55Speaker 2: none of us feel good one hundred percent right now
- 47:57Speaker 2: in our bodies, none of us. But we're all humans
- 48:01Speaker 2: and we have to get in the water. It makes
- 48:03Speaker 2: absolutely no sense for seven of us or ten of
- 48:07Speaker 2: us to sit here covered up on these chairs fighting
- 48:11Speaker 2: like we have to live a little right, right. So
- 48:16Speaker 2: I think that that is there is a message all
- 48:19Speaker 2: of us, no matter how amazing that other people may
- 48:23Speaker 2: think that we look, or how you know, the terrible
- 48:26Speaker 2: things we may hear people say about us, like we
- 48:29Speaker 2: all have those things. But Emily did say in her
- 48:32Speaker 2: confessional that John called Shannon fat. I don't like that,
- 48:38Speaker 2: and I don't like that either, and if Edwin called
- 48:41Speaker 2: me that, especially with all my past struggles. I would
- 48:46Speaker 2: really have a hard time probably being in a bathing
- 48:49Speaker 2: suit around him too.
- 48:50Speaker 1: Yeah, even if I was fat and any of my
- 48:52Speaker 1: exes called me fat, it would be an issue for me.
- 48:54Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that is that's just
- 48:58Speaker 1: not nice. That's not nice. Like we know, like I
- 49:02Speaker 1: gained a lot of weight over the pandemic, like most
- 49:05Speaker 1: like everyone else, and I finally I'm at a weight
- 49:10Speaker 1: you know, I like to you know, have a little
- 49:12Speaker 1: wiggle room and lose maybe maybe five more panels. But
- 49:14Speaker 1: I'm finally at a weight where I still have my curves,
- 49:17Speaker 1: but I'm at a comfortable weight where I feel good
- 49:20Speaker 1: in my clothes. I feel good, you know, the way
- 49:23Speaker 1: I look in real life and on TV as well,
- 49:26Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of this is you know,
- 49:28Speaker 1: for us, you know, and our regular lives is one thing,
- 49:30Speaker 1: but on TV, you know, we're just whole, We're just
- 49:33Speaker 1: you know, on.
- 49:33Speaker 2: TV, we're just like dart boards.
- 49:38Speaker 1: Is that a double chin? I see? Yeah? And it's
- 49:41Speaker 1: like I still don't like to turn the profile, you know,
- 49:44Speaker 1: I see it.
- 49:44Speaker 2: I know it's gonna be so, I mean, that's why
- 49:46Speaker 2: I got my cut off.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Well, I need your doctor because I'm like, I've lost weight,
- 49:52Speaker 1: but I'm like it's still trying to hang in there.
- 49:54Speaker 2: A little some muscle. I know well that it's.
- 49:57Speaker 1: We got to talk about that. But you know, I
- 50:00Speaker 1: I understand, you know, I understand that insecurity and us
- 50:05Speaker 1: being on TV kind of makes it worse because we
- 50:08Speaker 1: you know, in real life, people don't get to get
- 50:10Speaker 1: picked if they are up or down. We both we
- 50:13Speaker 1: all go up and down with.
- 50:14Speaker 2: Our we all go up and down. And here's the thing, Shannon,
- 50:17Speaker 2: if you're with your person, they are gonna love you
- 50:20Speaker 2: through it and try to bring you to be your
- 50:22Speaker 2: best self and not wait wise, but like to feeling
- 50:26Speaker 2: your best and making you feel sexy and making you
- 50:28Speaker 2: feel beautiful, and you are you are those things. But
- 50:33Speaker 2: if you don't believe it, it doesn't matter what anybody else says.
- 50:36Speaker 1: That's true.
- 50:37Speaker 2: It definitely sts And I think we all have our
- 50:39Speaker 2: own insecurities. Weirdly, I'm more comfortable like in a bathing
- 50:42Speaker 2: suit than I am in like certain like a pair
- 50:45Speaker 2: of jeans. You've never seen a more uncomfortable human like
- 50:48Speaker 2: I have sensory issues, so like, oh no, I cannot
- 50:52Speaker 2: like it really I feel like I look like SpongeBob
- 50:56Speaker 2: square pants. I have so many issues in geens like you,
- 50:59Speaker 2: very rarely do you see me in jeans. It's like
- 51:03Speaker 2: it's a weird thing. And my pose like this, my
- 51:06Speaker 2: teapop pose is because from so many years of having
- 51:10Speaker 2: like a super heavy arm, that I learned if I
- 51:14Speaker 2: posed like this that it looked thinner. And now I
- 51:17Speaker 2: can't stop. I've been doing it since I was twelve
- 51:19Speaker 2: years old. Like it's just they ingrained. These are certain things,
- 51:24Speaker 2: you know.
- 51:24Speaker 1: But you know, I think over the past couple of years,
- 51:27Speaker 1: my back has gotten wider. I feel like I'm a
- 51:30Speaker 1: little broad.
- 51:31Speaker 2: Than I used to be.
- 51:32Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, when did it become? Like when it
- 51:34Speaker 1: becomes so broad? And I feel like my neck has
- 51:36Speaker 1: actually gotten suspiciously shorter as well as well. They call
- 51:39Speaker 1: it technic technic oh, and I am low key starting
- 51:44Speaker 1: to get that little nick huk.
- 51:45Speaker 2: I know me too.
- 51:47Speaker 1: Noticed it. I ordered a pillow off Instagram.
- 51:51Speaker 2: It doesn't I tried it. It doesn't work. No, I
- 51:54Speaker 2: hate to be the bear of bad news. You're seventeen
- 51:56Speaker 2: ninety nine, just went to shit. But then we get
- 52:00Speaker 2: into to kind of close out this episode is Alex,
- 52:05Speaker 2: the girl who previously dated Ryan, told Jen that Tamar
- 52:09Speaker 2: reached out to her and told her to send her everything.
- 52:13Speaker 2: Tamra says Alex and Ryan have been hooking up for
- 52:15Speaker 2: a year during Jen and Ryan's relationship. Jen says it
- 52:19Speaker 2: was once and they were on a break, and then
- 52:21Speaker 2: Ryan sent Alex a text message while he and Jen
- 52:24Speaker 2: were together, saying I want to see you naked in bed.
- 52:27Speaker 2: And then Jen says she knows she's seen it. She
- 52:31Speaker 2: says she forgave Ryan because she loves him. Tamra tells
- 52:35Speaker 2: Jen she left for a player and she wasn't the
- 52:37Speaker 2: only girl Ryan slept with. At this point, Okay, that's
- 52:42Speaker 2: a lot to unpack in one situation. What we've learned
- 52:45Speaker 2: is ain't no one being honest in this situation. I mean, yes,
- 52:48Speaker 2: Tamra is calling out the facts. I don't know if
- 52:51Speaker 2: it's necessary at this point, Like we already all have
- 52:55Speaker 2: enough doubt in Ryan, but this is the first time
- 53:00Speaker 2: we catched Jen in an actual lie.
- 53:05Speaker 1: Oh okay, now what was so breaking.
- 53:09Speaker 2: Because she had always said that we were on a break. Yes,
- 53:13Speaker 2: we were on a break, But then at this point
- 53:16Speaker 2: we hear that Ryan sent Alex a text message while
- 53:19Speaker 2: he and Jen were together, and Jim saying I want
- 53:23Speaker 2: to see you naked in bed, and she says, I know,
- 53:26Speaker 2: I've seen it, which means if you're together in bed,
- 53:31Speaker 2: I mean, if you're together and someone sends another message,
- 53:34Speaker 2: I want to see you naked in bed. Yes, whether
- 53:38Speaker 2: you're split up or not, you're not a.
- 53:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 53:42Speaker 2: I don't believe in breaks, but if you're on a break,
- 53:44Speaker 2: you ain't laying together or you're not at a concert together,
- 53:48Speaker 2: at least for me exactly.
- 53:50Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. This is where I'm at with this
- 53:53Speaker 1: whole thing with Jen and Ryan. I'm done, Okay, we
- 53:58Speaker 1: have I am. I want. All I want in life
- 54:02Speaker 1: is for Jen and Brian to get married. And I
- 54:05Speaker 1: just want to watch this theme play out because at
- 54:08Speaker 1: this point, she has seen text, she has been forewarned,
- 54:14Speaker 1: she has seen text, she has been forewarned about him,
- 54:18Speaker 1: everybody seeing, everybody on the planet seemed to think he's
- 54:21Speaker 1: a player of whatever, and she wants to be with him.
- 54:27Speaker 1: She's in love with him, and I.
- 54:29Speaker 2: Alsough, we've now heard rumors which allegedly she stepped out
- 54:36Speaker 2: on her marriage too. Maybe they both just want to
- 54:40Speaker 2: freaking go for it. Maybe they're both two hornballs that
- 54:42Speaker 2: just want to have fun and they don't give two
- 54:46Speaker 2: More power to them, get it and all what you want.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Listen, kinda, this relationship no longer has to make sense
- 54:53Speaker 1: for me. I've unpacked it, I've packed it back up,
- 54:56Speaker 1: I've unpacked it again. I am exhausted. All right, I'm
- 55:01Speaker 1: here for Gen and Bryan. I'm here for Jen and
- 55:05Speaker 1: Ryan at this point wedding. I want them to go
- 55:09Speaker 1: through with this, and if it ends up in divorced,
- 55:11Speaker 1: it just ends up divorced. At this point, I'm actually
- 55:14Speaker 1: all gotten them.
- 55:15Speaker 2: You've had two, I've had one. Tras had two. I
- 55:18Speaker 2: think I don't know go through it. Everybody's had divorces.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Let Jen ride the strain all the way to the
- 55:24Speaker 1: last stop. Just let live and ride it out.
- 55:27Speaker 2: You know what this kind of feels like. You know
- 55:29Speaker 2: when you stay at like a holiday inn or like
- 55:31Speaker 2: a Best Western, and you've been there over the amount
- 55:34Speaker 2: of nights of the underwear that you've packed, so then
- 55:36Speaker 2: on the last night you got to get the underwear
- 55:38Speaker 2: out and wash them in the same see blow dryer. Yeah,
- 55:46Speaker 2: that's what this ship feels like. I'm like, I'm done.
- 55:50Speaker 1: I I can't like talk to me after the reunion.
- 55:56Speaker 2: I also, I feel like at this point we need
- 56:01Speaker 2: to see Ryan. Ryan, this is our formal invitation to
- 56:05Speaker 2: invite you on the pod and if you and also
- 56:09Speaker 2: not only did you not send us a jacket after
- 56:11Speaker 2: our last thing, which.
- 56:12Speaker 1: We were very clear about that that request.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Okay, yeah we didn't. We didn't like play it cool.
- 56:19Speaker 2: We're like being players. We were straight out we want
- 56:22Speaker 2: a jacket. And now we want you on the pod
- 56:25Speaker 2: because I need to see if you're actually funny, if I.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Like you I think he is. Come on, all right,
- 56:33Speaker 1: come and hang out with us on the pod.
- 56:35Speaker 2: All right, Ryan, come on, let's we'll grill the ship
- 56:38Speaker 2: out of you and SKA.
- 56:40Speaker 1: We'll put this whole thing to rest. You. Come on
- 56:42Speaker 1: the pod. We will have nothing else to say about
- 56:44Speaker 1: you after we unpack everything properly.
- 56:46Speaker 2: Until next season.
- 56:49Speaker 1: Or the renion.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you for joining us
- 56:53Speaker 2: for another episode of two Teas in a Pod. We
- 56:56Speaker 2: really appreciate you, guys. Cynthia. I mean, I love you
- 57:00Speaker 2: so much. I have so much fun with you, and
- 57:02Speaker 2: you gave me my official first snort of the pod,
- 57:06Speaker 2: and I am forever grateful.
- 57:07Speaker 1: Yeah me, Teddy snort. Well, I'm glad because I know
- 57:10Speaker 1: you're going through a lot, Teddy, and I'm so glad
- 57:12Speaker 1: that I can make you laugh until tears stay down
- 57:15Speaker 1: your face today.
- 57:18Speaker 2: I had to be honest. When we got on and
- 57:20Speaker 2: your voice was hoarse, I was like, oh no, you
- 57:22Speaker 2: better bring it right now because I am in no
- 57:25Speaker 2: mental capacity to freaking take this on my own.
- 57:30Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not doing any heavy lifting today.
- 57:33Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw out a couple of softballs and that's
- 57:36Speaker 2: what I got to give today. And then you come
- 57:39Speaker 2: back and you're like, you're like, hold on, I'm big, Ruth.
- 57:42Speaker 1: I got your baby, I got your bag, I got
- 57:45Speaker 1: your bed. What already knew you needed me to step
- 57:48Speaker 1: up today, and I was happy to step up to
- 57:50Speaker 1: the plate.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Boys, I love you, love you. Thank you so much, sir.
- 57:56Speaker 1: I'm praying for you. You are good. Please keep me posted.
- 57:59Speaker 2: Okay, I well, thank you so much. Bye bye,