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- 0:00Hello there and welcome to the podcast. I'm your host Dr. Russell Sharp,
- 0:04the founder of Eutrema Ltd and today I'm going to be talking all about insecticidal soaps.
- 0:10What are insecticidal soaps, how do they work and what to look for in a product.
- 0:15Now insecticidal soaps all work by physical disruption so they're not pesticides,
- 0:20they don't have any residual activity,
- 0:23they don't last for a long time, killing, they're not a biocide,
- 0:26they're not something that's going to kill anything directly through chemical action.
- 0:31They control pests and some diseases by physical mode of action.
- 0:36So what does physical mode of action mean?
- 0:38It means that they degrade the waxes and the exoskeletons of the pests,
- 0:43normally insects, but they can be mites, arachnids, and break down the waxes,
- 0:48break down the membranes, disrupt the pores so that the insect suffocates.
- 0:54The tiny pores that are located on the insect's abdomen. They're called spiracles.
- 0:59And so they're considered a contact killer. So the action's entirely physical,
- 1:04meaning the liquid must coat the pest to be effective.
- 1:07So you dilute it, put it in your spray can, and it will be a contact.
- 1:12So it's not systemic, which is both a benefit and a disadvantage.
- 1:17So you can't spray it on one leaf and hope that it travels down into the roots
- 1:21and kills root aphids, for example.
- 1:23And you can't just spray a few leaves and hope that the whole plant is protected.
- 1:27You just spray it on the infected, on the pests, so say you've got a plant covered
- 1:32in aphids, you spray all the aphids and they will die, but it won't move around the plants.
- 1:37That's a good thing because not only are they normally non-hazardous,
- 1:42it means they're not going to travel into the fruit tissues or the flower tissues
- 1:46or the things you're going to eat.
- 1:48You're not going to have this poison moving around the plant.
- 1:51So you spray the leaves of a carrot plant.
- 1:53It's only going to stay on the leaves. It's not going to go into the carrot.
- 1:57So that's a really good effect. And also it's non-systemic.
- 2:00So it doesn't hang around for a long time, which is a benefit and a disadvantage
- 2:05meaning that the disadvantage is that you can't get that,
- 2:08prolonged control of a pest or a disease but the advantage is that you don't have this poison,
- 2:15sat in your plant that you're then going to eat or consume somehow so there
- 2:20are benefits and disadvantages of insecticidal soaps but they are a really good
- 2:25way of controlling pests especially,
- 2:28the first method of control before you go on to anything harsher,
- 2:31any of the biocides, the insecticides, and things like this.
- 2:35So the main thing you've got to consider though when choosing one is,
- 2:40is it plant safe? And is it sodium free?
- 2:44And that's what we specialize at Eutrema.
- 2:46A lot of the insecticidal soaps on the market, especially in the UK,
- 2:50are sodium-based products.
- 2:53Sodium, as I've said before on the podcast, is like arsenic to plants.
- 2:56So arsenic is this as poisonous, sodium is as poisonous to plants as arsenic is to you.
- 3:02One of the quickest ways to kill a plant is to put table salt on it sodium chloride,
- 3:07so you really want to avoid sodium wherever possible when growing plants and,
- 3:12formulators have been using cheap sodium-based soaps because they're abundant
- 3:18they're what's in your washing up liquid they're what's in detergents they're
- 3:21what's in floor cleaner and things like this,
- 3:25but and it's not even as if these products are cheap even some of the most expensive
- 3:30products on the market are these sodium-based products.
- 3:33So there's a wetting agent for sports turf called Absorb, which is really dilute sodium-based soap.
- 3:41And so you really want to use an alternative to that. So at Eutrema,
- 3:46we use ammonia and potassium as the cations rather than sodium.
- 3:52So you want to avoid that. Other things like SB Plant Invigorator are sodium-based soaps.
- 3:58These companies are making enough money that they don't need to include sodium
- 4:02but because they've had it easy for quite a long time they are using it and
- 4:06the other advantage of keeping it sodium free is that you're able to include a nutrient
- 4:12alongside that so potassium and ammonia they provide nitrogen and potassium
- 4:16to the plant it's a bit like a foliar fertilizer and there will be some sulfur in there as well okay so,
- 4:23and the other advantage is that it's,
- 4:26going to be far easier to biodegrade and you can use it within that integrated
- 4:31pest management strategy that we've talked about before so we've talked about
- 4:35insect pests so a lot of your sap suckers and things like caterpillars
- 4:40leafy leaf eaters it'll be effective against,
- 4:44you when scale insect is on the move it'll be effective against scale insect.
- 4:49It won't be effective against sort of root aphids because obviously you can't apply it there.
- 4:55Mites, so red spider mites, russet mites, things like this would be good against.
- 5:03It won't give you complete control. So again, you need to use integrated pest management.
- 5:06And then a couple of diseases as well. So powdery mildew suppression is the main one.
- 5:11Really primarily used for soft-bodied insects, but it will have some effect,
- 5:15against powdery mildew. and if you've got some other diseases,
- 5:19you might have some effect against rust and things like this, disrupting the.
- 5:25The growths that appear especially the fruiting bodies that are producing spores okay so,
- 5:31one of the other things we might want to look at is tank mix compatibility especially
- 5:36for our customers in sports turf who are wanting to mix a number of products
- 5:40together in hydroponics and house house plants.
- 5:45Don't tend to do much tank mixing you just apply one product whereas if you're
- 5:50wanting to you know you're getting on a tractor you want to put as many products
- 5:53down as possible normally,
- 5:54the key thing to remember is that soaps in their nature are out mildly alkaline
- 6:00so anything that drops the ph or anything's got really,
- 6:04a lot of metal content could could disrupt that soap forming ability now the,
- 6:11from the utreema catalog our ultimate iron our magnesium plus are liquid gold,
- 6:17humic and fulvic acid, nitrogen, amino acid powder, they're all compatible.
- 6:23So that's a lot of products.
- 6:25So if you wanted to get loads of nutrients in, liquid gold.
- 6:28If you're looking for a quick boost, green up of your lawn, for example,
- 6:3232% nitrogen or magnesium plus. And if you're looking for darkening of that
- 6:36foliage, ultimate iron.
- 6:39And then as far as biostimulants go, humic and fulvic acids and amino acids
- 6:44don't tang mix it with seaweed extract
- 6:46you will get the you'll get a scum a scum forming and that's not good because
- 6:51not only are you getting potentially blocking filters then you could be,
- 6:56removing the activity of both,
- 6:58and products that you're you're applying so there you go that's.
- 7:04The advantages and how insecticidal soaps work zero residues,
- 7:10won't be systemic which is good and bad no effect on eggs really so you're only
- 7:15going to be affecting adults and nymphs the young okay.
- 7:20You may need to apply more than once because of that lack of residual activity.
- 7:25You probably were going to want to apply every five to seven days if you have an infestation.
- 7:30You don't want to apply too often because you'll be breaking the waxes down
- 7:34on the leaf surface and you could harm the plants if you apply it too often.
- 7:38But if I had an infestation, I wouldn't have any problem with applying it every five days.
- 7:43They can cause some phytotoxicity if you apply too often, especially if it's
- 7:48hot. So don't apply them above 30 degrees Celsius. You shouldn't really be putting
- 7:51any foliar, spraying anything on your plants above 30 degrees Celsius because
- 7:56you're going to feel a world of pain if you do that.
- 7:59But yeah, you want to be applying every five days if you've got an infestation. Don't overdose.
- 8:05Eutremus insecticidal soap is very
- 8:08concentrated. It's not one of these watered-down products ready to use.
- 8:12Follow the instructions. It comes to all the eutrema products.
- 8:16We have very concentrated products that are for professional use.
- 8:21If you apply too much or if you glug it into the tank rather than measuring
- 8:24it, you could cause problems.
- 8:27Okay and then don't expect it to work on,
- 8:34adult beetles so things like black vine wheels
- 8:39it won't work on those it's only really soft-bodied insects aphids white flies
- 8:44spider mounts thrips even caterpillars it may struggle with if you did want
- 8:48to have an effect against caterpillars
- 8:50i'd probably mix in some lime sulfur or something like this so that's something
- 8:54to consider so let me know if you've used insecticidal soaps and you've got any feedback,
- 9:00or if you've got any other top tips for when using them i'd be really interesting
- 9:03to hear whether whether you're in hydroponics or sports turf or even in agriculture
- 9:08whether you've used one of these products okay so an alternative to pesticides an alternative to some,
- 9:14bio fungus some fungicides,
- 9:17and if you're looking for an organic insecticidal soap then check out yucca extract,
- 9:24by eutreema our yucca extract is a natural plant soap that's extracted from
- 9:29yucca plants in new mexico and that's organically certified it can be used on
- 9:34organic crops so it's not just eutreema's insecticidal soap we also have,
- 9:38our yucca extract as well so check that out as well all right thanks very much
- 9:41for listening until next time goodbye.