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Congress Names Epstein’s 'Filthy 14' (Part 2) (9/2/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, we're picking up where we left off with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein and the Filthy 14. Les Wexner may be
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  Speaker 1: the single most important person in understanding how Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: became Jeffrey Epstein. Before Epstein became the mysterious billionaire with
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  Speaker 1: the Manhattan Mansion, Private Jet, Island, Ranch, and endless collection
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  Speaker 1: of powerful contacts, he became deeply embedded in Wexner's financial life.
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  Speaker 1: Wexner gave Epstein sweeping power of attorney. Epstein managed substantial
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  Speaker 1: portions of his money. Epstein acquired access to the enormous
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan residence that later became one of the most recognizable
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  Speaker 1: locations in the entire scandal. Wexner's business world included Victoria's Secret,
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  Speaker 1: and Epstein's name would later become tangled with allegations that
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  Speaker 1: he misrepresented his influence over modeling opportunities connected to the brand.
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  Speaker 1: Wexner has portrayed himself as the victim of a world-class
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  Speaker 1: con man who betrayed him and allegedly misappropriated enormous sums.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Jeffrey Epstein conned Les Wexner, but somebody should explain
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  Speaker 1: how the con became so intimate and so spectacularly successful.
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  Speaker 1: Wexner didn't merely hire Epstein to rebalance a retirement account.
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  Speaker 1: He gave him an extraordinary degree of authority. That relationship
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  Speaker 1: helped create the appearance that Epstein was a serious financial operator, trusted,
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  Speaker 1: by one of the richest businessmen in America. People notice
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Wealthy people notice who other wealthy
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  Speaker 1: people trust. Banks notice. Social circles notice. Young aspiring models
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  Speaker 1: notice when a man appears connected to the owner of
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  Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret. Epstein's proximity to Wexner wasn't some meaningless decoration
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  Speaker 1: that sat in the background. It was usable credibility, and
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  Speaker 1: Epstein was very good at turning credibility into access. Wexner
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  Speaker 1: can say that he was deceived, but the full history
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  Speaker 1: of how Epstein acquired that position deserves to be ripped
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  Speaker 1: apart line by line. And the newer FBI material has
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  Speaker 1: only deepened the need for those answers. Released investigative documents
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  Speaker 1: reportedly placed Wexner, under language identifying him, as a potential co-conspirator,
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  Speaker 1: while also noting that evidence concerning him was limited. His
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  Speaker 1: representatives have stressed that prosecutors later indicated he was not
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  Speaker 1: considered a target or co-conspirator. That doesn't make the earlier
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  Speaker 1: investigative interests disappear. It means the government should explain what
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  Speaker 1: investigators saw, what they pursued, and why their conclusions developed
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  Speaker 1: the way they did. This is exactly the kind of
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  Speaker 1: unresolved government record that's poisoned public trust in the Epstein matter.
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  Speaker 1: One document says one thing. Representatives cite another conversation saying
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  Speaker 1: something else. And the public is expected to stitch the
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  Speaker 1: story together from scraps. Wexner's connection to Epstein was too
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  Speaker 1: important for scraps. If investigators cleared him, show how. If
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  Speaker 1: questions remain, ask them. David Copperfield's appearance on Massey's list
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  Speaker 1: would have seemed bizarre to people years ago, but newly
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  Speaker 1: released FBI records made it much harder to brush off.
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  Speaker 1: A 2007 FBI memo reportedly described the clear connection between
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  Speaker 1: Copperfield and Epstein. Investigators were looking at whether further inquiry
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  Speaker 1: was needed concerning possible referrals of victims between the men.
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  Speaker 1: That's not cocktail party trivia. That's an FBI investigative concern
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  Speaker 1: from a period when Epstein's conduct was actively under examination.
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  Speaker 1: Johanna Schubert also testified that she encountered Copperfield at a
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  Speaker 1: dinner at Epstein's home. She recalled him asking whether girls
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  Speaker 1: knew that other girls were being paid to recruit girls.
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  Speaker 1: Copperfield has denied wrongdoing, and his representatives say have disputed
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  Speaker 1: descriptions of any close relationship with Epstein. But an FBI
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  Speaker 1: memo talking about possible victim referrals is precisely the sort
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  Speaker 1: of thing that deserves answers rather than celebrity damage control.
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  Speaker 1: Copperfield has spent a lifetime professionally mastering misdirection, but there
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  Speaker 1: should be no misdirection here. What exactly did federal investigators
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  Speaker 1: believe they were seeing in 2007? Who provided the information?
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  Speaker 1: Were witnesses interviewed? Were potential referrals traced? Did prosecutors receive
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  Speaker 1: the findings? Why did that investigative thread apparently go nowhere publicly?
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  Speaker 1: Those questions are not answered by saying Copperfield was famous
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  Speaker 1: or that he denies wrongdoing. Massey put his name on
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  Speaker 1: the House floor because the released government record now contains
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  Speaker 1: something far more serious than gossip. The DOJ possesses that
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  Speaker 1: underlying material. Let it explain what happened. Lapo Elkin said,
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  Speaker 1: is different because the publicly available material surrounding him is thinner.
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  Speaker 1: But what exists still places him inside Epstein's social world.
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  Speaker 1: Correspondence indicates them being familiar and having a relationship that
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  Speaker 1: Epstein himself seemed willing to describe as friendship. Now, that
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  Speaker 1: alone doesn't tell us what Elkin knew about Epstein's behavior.
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  Speaker 1: What it does tell us is that another member of
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  Speaker 1: an immensely wealthy and internationally connected family appeared in Epstein's
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  Speaker 1: contacts and correspondence. Epstein collected people like this obsessively. He
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  Speaker 1: liked recognizable surnames, inherited power, billionaires, royalties, CEOs, scientists, politicians,
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  Speaker 1: and anyone else who made the room look more impressive
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  Speaker 1: when he entered it. The Agnelli-Elkin world certainly met that standard.
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  Speaker 1: If Massey has seen material that caused him to elevate
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  Speaker 1: Elkin beyond social association, then that material needs daylight. Thomas
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  Speaker 1: Pritzker's name carries more weight because Virginia was asked about
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  Speaker 1: him under oath. Virginia testified that she believed she'd been
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  Speaker 1: sent to Pritzker once, while expressing uncertainty about whether there
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  Speaker 1: had been additional occasions. Now Pritzker, he denied wrongdoing. But
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  Speaker 1: there is something infuriating about how allegations involving billionaires often
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  Speaker 1: become frozen in exactly this posture for years. A woman
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  Speaker 1: makes an allegation under oath. The man denies it. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: retreats to opposite corners. then somehow the investigative portion of
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  Speaker 1: the process disappears from public view. And I think this
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  Speaker 1: is where the government's behavior deserves as much contempt as
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  Speaker 1: anybody else's. Virginia named people while describing what she alleged
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  Speaker 1: was trafficking operation directed by Epstein and Maxwell. Investigators should
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  Speaker 1: have treated every identifiable allegation like a lead to be tested.
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  Speaker 1: Establish the date. Establish the location. pull the travel records,
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  Speaker 1: pull the communications, identify who was present, determine whether anything
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  Speaker 1: corroborates or contradicts the account. That's police work, not persecution.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that some of the men named were wealthy
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  Speaker 1: enough to own chunks of corporate America should have made
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  Speaker 1: absolutely no difference. Glenn Dubin likewise occupies a long-standing place
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  Speaker 1: in Epstein's story that cannot be erased by calling everyone
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  Speaker 1: an acquaintance. Dubin and his wife, Eva Anderson Dubin, had
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  Speaker 1: a relationship with Epstein that extended across many years. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: remained connected to their social world even after his conduct
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  Speaker 1: had become a public scandal. Virginia alleged under oath that
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  Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell directed her to provide Dubin with a massage
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  Speaker 1: that Roberts understood to involve sex. Dubin has denied the allegation.
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell also denied sending Roberts to him. Yet, this is
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  Speaker 1: once again a specific allegation from a central accuser, not
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  Speaker 1: somebody on social media matching names to flight logs. It
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  Speaker 1: deserved a serious, investigative response. After 2008, there's no excuse
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  Speaker 1: for pretending Jeffrey Epstein was simply an eccentric financier with
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  Speaker 1: a complicated reputation. He was a registered sex offender. Anyone
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  Speaker 1: who continued allowing him into a social circle made a choice.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they believed his excuses. Maybe they believed the criminal
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  Speaker 1: case exaggerated what happened. Maybe they liked him enough that
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  Speaker 1: they simply didn't care. None of those possibilities are flattering.
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  Speaker 1: And when that continued, relationship later sits beside a specific
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  Speaker 1: allegation from Virginia. Investigators should not be timid about demanding answers. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Freddie Fekai's name has become considerably more important because Sarah
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  Speaker 1: Kellan brought him directly into congressional testimony in 2026. Kellen
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  Speaker 1: alleged before House investigators that Fakai sexually assaulted her after
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  Speaker 1: inviting her to participate in what she said was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be a hair show in Maui. She alleged the
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  Speaker 1: hair show did not exist. Fakai has denied the accusation.
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  Speaker 1: But Congress did not simply release the allegation and walk away.
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  Speaker 1: The Oversight Committee called for the Justice Department to investigate
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  Speaker 1: allegations Kellen made involving Fakai and others. And that's where
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  Speaker 1: this matter stands now. A former Epstein employee and co-conspirator,
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  Speaker 1: sat before lawmakers and placed a specific accusation into a
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  Speaker 1: formal congressional record. I think that deserves a little more
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  Speaker 1: than a carefully worded statement from a publicist. Now, when
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  Speaker 1: we talk about Frederick Fokai, that connection's big, because this
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  Speaker 1: dude was providing beauty services that appear throughout Epstein's handling
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  Speaker 1: of women. Hair appointments, clothes, travel, modeling opportunities, education, gifts, cash,
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  Speaker 1: and promises. could all become part of the atmosphere surrounding
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  Speaker 1: young women who entered his life. Nobody should twist the
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  Speaker 1: existence of a haircut into evidence of trafficking. But investigators
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  Speaker 1: are not examining one isolated salon appointment. They're examining relationships
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  Speaker 1: among people moving through Epstein's world and allegations coming from
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  Speaker 1: a woman who worked inside that world for years. Fakai's
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  Speaker 1: response can be tested. Kellen's account can be tested. Records
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  Speaker 1: can be subpoenaed where they exist. Witnesses can be interviewed.
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  Speaker 1: What cannot happen, again, is another serious allegation involving Epstein
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  Speaker 1: landing in a government file and quietly aging into an irrelevance.
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  Speaker 1: Eduardo Teodorani Fabri represents another relationship that becomes difficult to
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  Speaker 1: stomach because it continued into the years when Epstein's criminal
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  Speaker 1: history was already public. Release correspondence has shown a familiar
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  Speaker 1: relationship involving travel, social plans, and conversations about women. Fabri
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  Speaker 1: moved in wealthy European circles and belonged to the extended
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  Speaker 1: Agnelli family world. Epstein loved exactly those circles because they
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  Speaker 1: gave him what he craved more than anything almost anything else, entry.
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  Speaker 1: The messages reveal a level of comfort that makes it
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  Speaker 1: reasonable to ask what Fabry understood about Epstein's appetite for
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  Speaker 1: young women. Massey plainly believes the underlying files justify far
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  Speaker 1: greater scrutiny. Well, scrutinize them. Go through every introduction, every
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  Speaker 1: travel plan, every mention of women, and every visit. The
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  Speaker 1: worst possible response is another decade of everybody staring at
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  Speaker 1: emails while pretending nobody has authority to ask what they mean.
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  Speaker 1: And again, the date matters. Anyone corresponding closely with Epstein
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  Speaker 1: after 2008 was corresponding with a man whose sex offense
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  Speaker 1: conviction was not buried in classified intelligence. It was public.
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  Speaker 1: People can choose terrible friends. People can choose reprehensible friends.
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  Speaker 1: People can convince themselves that a predator has been unfairly
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  Speaker 1: treated or has rehabilitated himself. But those choices become relevant
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  Speaker 1: when the same correspondence involves discussions about women. Fabry's name
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be turned into a criminal verdict through insinuation. It
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  Speaker 1: should be turned into investigative questions. Massey has now demanded
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  Speaker 1: exactly that. Let the answers be as public as the
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  Speaker 1: association became. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up
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  Speaker 1: episode two right here. And in the next episode, dealing
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  Speaker 1: with the topic, we're going to pick up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off. All the information that goes with this episode
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