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121) How Bella Quit a $140K Corporate Job, Moved to Spain, and Built Her Dream Digital Nomad Business · Digital Nomad Life Podcast

• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Hey there and welcome to the Digital Nomad Life Podcast.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Krista, also known as Christabella Travels on social media.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: Always hit my handle at the beginning of every episode because I really want to encourage you to slide into my DMs if you have any questions at all about how you could possibly become a digital nomad or a remote entrepreneur.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_01: So feel free to ask me anything, or maybe you'll also want to ask one of my actual real clients.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_01: So today I am interviewing Bella Jabra.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: She is such an amazing success story that I'm so excited to share with you today.
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: She has an incredible journey of going from the most corporate of corporate situations, high income earner, just, you know, I'm assuming, Bella, that you're wearing, I don't know, a pencil skirt or something to work like that.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, and now if we flash forward one year that she's been in the DNLA, a Digital Nomad Life Academy, if you're not familiar, but um, she's been in the DNLA for one year.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: And now she's actually doing this podcast from Spain, her new home, where she has her business.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: She's got multiple clients that are coming in from multiple channels.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: She's living her best life.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: She's running her dream business, and she's just a full-time entrepreneur.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: And I am so excited for her to share her story about how she went from where she was, which might be where you, listener, are, and to where she is today.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: So without further ado, Bella, welcome.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_01: So happy to have you here.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Krista.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy to be here.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's such an honor.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, crazy, right?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_01: To just have um not that or I don't know if you're fully complete with the year in the DNL, but uh you've been in the program for about a year and it's just pretty miraculous all the things that have changed.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my whole life since 10180.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: And I do very much believe that the program was a huge asset to how I was able to achieve the things that I set up for myself.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: But also I think it's really important to note that it is all very much a mental game and you have to be in it for the long run.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: And as long as you just never forget about that, you will always follow your dreams and always have success.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's what I've learned with the program.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I know that this episode is going to be packed with your wisdom as your first year of an entrepreneur.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: But before we go into all the things that you have now learned from your blood, sweat, and tears of building this business on your own or well, with support, but you did it.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's just you.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, tell me, or you maybe you can tell the listeners.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_01: How would you introduce yourself today if someone said, Oh, hi, what do you do?
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: What would you say?
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's a really awesome question because no one's asked me that since I started this business.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_00: No way, really?
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like no one's normally asked me.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think in Europe, it's not common when people meet you and right away they ask, What do you do for work?
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's a very American greeting, a very American way of introducing yourself.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, around in Spain, around here, I don't really get asked that.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but to answer your question, um, I am the founder of Reloca, which is a Spanish relocation agency.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: I help Americans move to Spain with everything, um, all the way from visas, housing, schools for their children, um, financial uh planning, you name it.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: Any sort of service that someone needs with relocating to Spain, I can help.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Or if I cannot, I'm honest and I point people in the right direction for the right professional that can help them.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I have a full Spanish relocation agency helping just Americans right now.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: The goal would be to expand to multiple countries one day, but I have a vision to tackle the American market in Spain.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so far, so good.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: So far, so good.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: I know I've been seeing your success and you've been absolutely killing it.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, for the record, if anybody listen, if anybody listening is interested in moving to Spain, it sounds like from me working with Bella that it's just a really complicated process and there's so many hoops that you have to jump through.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: And um, she just makes the whole process super easy for you.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_01: So check out Reloca in the show notes and hit her up.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so but back to the actual storytelling of this, Bella, how did you how did you learn what you needed to learn in order to actually do this professionally?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: To be honest, the first thing that comes to mind is the Digital Normand Life Academy and you, because I don't come from a family of entrepreneurs.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of people who want to become entrepreneurs but don't come from that, don't have parents who are, or aunts, uncles, whoever.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's really daunting and really, really scary to start something fresh, or maybe something that's not typical in your family or where you're come where you come from.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so for me, I I always had this business idea, but I never was able to execute because I didn't have I wasn't in the right environment.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't around people doing what I want to do.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have people in my environment, friends or family who can support me or guide me or coach me.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's why I took it upon myself to hire a coach and did some research.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: And through a referral, I found you.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the accountability that you provide in your program.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: I I told you all the time throughout the past year, I'm a really good student.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I think if you're if you were a good student in school, thank you.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: If you were a good student in school, investing in coaching, especially for your future in your career, is a really, really great.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this it's a great return on your investment because if you are good at school, you will listen to a coach and you will do all the things and you will have success.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: Of course, you have it's not all on the coach.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_00: You have to do the work, obviously.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're willing to do the work and you and you're a good listener and a good student, you will have success.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think that actually is such a such a key thing that I want to pull out of your story because or what you just said.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because yeah, recently I I posted something on my stories about how Meta has actually been blocking a bunch of my content because I say things like escape the nine to five, which is real, which is like literally what I help people do.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't know why Meta has a problem with that, but actually I asked the audience, and then someone was like, Well, it does sound like you're offering some kind of get rich quick scheme when you say escape the nine to five, because escape maybe insinuates that it's like a fast experience, but it's not really like I'm I'm never saying that this is an easy situation.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: You you do need to work for it, and I'm not gonna be someone that just unlocks the door for you and then suddenly you're free.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you gotta, you got, you gotta work for it.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: But um actually, well, I love I love what you said about the DNL uh enabling you to step into your entrepreneur journey.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: But what I was actually curious about is specifically the the things that you know about Spain.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because you know, at this point I know how to be an entrepreneur, I know how to start a business, but I wouldn't know how to advise people to move to Spain.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: So what's the story behind that?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_01: And can you maybe take us back in time to where you where you garnered the ability to have this particular kind of business?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very niche business, which I acknowledge and did intentionally.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think throughout your program, you really emphasize the importance of having a niche.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I think it's really important to, at least in the beginning, to have business success.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um but for me, oh gosh, I think um a lot of a lot of things come up for me personally.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: I studied Spanish.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: I have a bachelor's in in Spanish from college, and I was really, really good at Spanish.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_00: It was all the classes I always four pointed.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: And so typically, unfortunately, in high school, when you say, Oh, I want to go to college and study a language, everyone, specifically your parents, say, Oh, well, what are you gonna do with that besides be a teacher?
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like do something else, right?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I got two bachelors and said, Okay, I'll just add another bachelor's, another major to my to my education.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I studied international economics.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: And throughout the my two majors, it was very common for people at Michigan where I went to study abroad in junior year in my major.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: I applied to study abroad in Granada, here in Spain, when I was a junior, and my dad would not let me go because he's very traditional Middle Eastern and said, if I'm paying for your college, I'm paying for you to go to school there, not across the world.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: Even though I had to convince him, oh, it's still cheaper there, like it'll be cheaper for my school.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like I actually was cheaper, classes were cheaper, books, housing, everything was cheaper.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: He was just very, very traditional and strict.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I couldn't go.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're not paying for it, you can't say anything.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_00: So I made it a point after college to move to Spain on my own.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, no one can stop me.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: I was 18 or 22 at the time when I graduated.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I went to go teach English, which is a very common, typical route for recent graduates moving to Spain.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: I taught English for a few years.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: I came home, unfortunately, when the pandemic happened, went back after the pandemic, taught again, went home for visa purposes, got a remote job, got the nomad visa, came back to Spain, moved to a new city.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like all these crazy things happened.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: And throughout that experience, I've lived in multiple cities in Spain.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: I've had multiple different career trajectories from teaching to a corporate job to now this.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny, I say this all the time.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_00: Unintentionally, I became an expert at relocating in Spain without trying.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Unintentionally, I became this master at relocation.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: I never thought I would be where I am today.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I love that story so much, and I hope that whoever is listening to this episode also feels inspired by that because I just I spoke to somebody earlier today in the DMs, and this conversation is ringing in my ears because it was it's uh someone that I I know personally, and he was like, Oh, I don't know, like, oh, your program sounds amazing, but I am a nurse and I've only ever been a nurse, and therefore I don't have any relevant experience.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I was just like, Look, we don't know that that's actually true.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_01: Bella, your story.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: I think there's there probably is someone listening to this podcast that maybe even has a similar story where their life, their life just took them to a different place, their life took them deep down into some specific area or arena or niche or something like that, that they just know a lot about something.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: You happened, your something happens to be moving to Spain.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: But um, it's so cool that you've taken that something that didn't really have to do with your economics degree.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: And um, we'll talk about what your corporate job was in a sec.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_01: But like the business that you have now, it's not a direct translation into any of your professional experience, but somehow it makes complete sense with your life experience.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's just such a cool point.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, go ahead.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I don't know.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: I just think that when you have a niche that you can't scratch about an idea, typically there's a reason for it, and you might not know it in the moment, if that makes sense.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, for me, I had this idea for so long.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I I've had a TikTok since I've first moved to Spain, it's probably six years old now.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: And if you go way back to the beginning of my TikTok, you'll see it's just me posting the most random, like American girl in Spain blog type of videos.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think this was also when TikTok was just existing, it was new still, so people weren't really monetizing quite yet off of it.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_00: But I think a lot of people are so afraid to enter into an industry or a market because they don't have the experience.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And typically, when you want to start a new role or enter in a new industry, it's very common to start in the corporate world like an entry-level position.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're an entrepreneur, those entry-level positions don't really exist for you, or maybe there's an internship somewhere else, right?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_00: But that's not gonna allow you to become an entrepreneur.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: That turns you still into an employee.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: So you have to be willing to learn as you go, because if not, you will never be a successful entrepreneur.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: You have to be willing to sometimes maybe look silly, you know, make a mistake.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: There are maybe instances where you might not be the expert or might not look like the expert, but if you just stay true and genuine and integral to the fact that you're new to this, then other people, at least what I'm learning is that other people are giving me grace because they know that I am new to this.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: So if you're willing to sometimes fall and or maybe go five steps back or to go 15 steps forward, that's that's all that matters.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_00: I know we spoke a lot about the mental blockages that you have when you are an entrepreneur.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: And if you can get through those, you can do anything.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: There's uh if any of my clients are listening, or anybody who's in the DNL, you know, we talk about this on pretty much there's almost no coaching call that we have, and there's four every single week, or maybe even five every single week.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, just hours and hours and hours of calls.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: And every single one we are talking about some kind of emotional or psychological experience that happens in the entrepreneurial journey.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's like there are so many fears and limiting beliefs that can come up, worries about who am I to charge for this?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what will people think if I say this?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's just so, so, so many things that come up.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I do want to talk about your journey of how you got from where you were to where you are today, because it's uh it's an amazing, incredible jump.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: But I would love for us to go in order.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you were not always an entrepreneur, you were once in corporate.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: So can you take us back to what was life like before before all this happened?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: Where were you in the world?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: What were you doing?
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: How much were you making?
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like all the things.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_00: So prior to this, I was living in Spain with a remote job.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I got that remote job because, and a lot of people, I'm sure for your business, Krista, and obviously for mine, a lot of people ask me, how do I get a remote job and move to another country?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: And people ask me how all the time how I got mine.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: The reality is that I worked in person in the office for two years before it became remote.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: So prior to this, I was living in Spain with a remote job.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I would say throughout the five years I worked there, I was hired to do international trade work.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it was a company that trades raw materials, um, particularly steel, between the US and Mexico.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: So I was going to Mexico every month for meetings and meeting with CEOs and speaking Spanish.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was really freaking cool.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like I felt like I had my I made it moment, you know, getting work travel paid for and cool work dinners and meeting CEOs and all this cool stuff.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: But at the end of the day, I was really, really, I was not myself, I guess you could say, for lack of better words.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I felt like I was chasing somebody else's dream.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: And even though I was considered a founding member, you know, one of the first employees of stock options and all that, it was still not my dream.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_00: It was not mine.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I had to explain this to my boss back then.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's when it kind of hit him.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: I said, at the end of the day, this is always gonna be your baby, nobody else's.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so when you are an employee, whether it's called a startup or corporate corporate job, whatever, I think when it's not yours, there's just a very different vibe that you have going to work every day.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I was working with them.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it was really cool, but I was in it for the wrong reasons.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: I was in it for the money.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I was kind of just I kind of had tunnel vision at the bone at the time, trying to get my student loans paid off from college.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so unfortunately, that's very typical in the US when you go to an expensive university and you graduate at 22 years old and you have debt.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: The first thing you think of is okay, what kind of job can I get to help me pay this off as soon as possible so I can go buy a car, buy a house, whatever.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I was making like$140 a year, which I know to maybe the average European is crazy.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: I understand that's a lot of money, but for Los Angeles standards, trying to pay$3,000 a month for rent with no AC and no laundry and car and car insurance and food and uh my student loans, I was not saving maybe more than$100 a month.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: It was ridiculous.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was it was ridiculous.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: It was insane.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: And after LA taxes high.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: So after the tax and after all my debt I had to pay off, I was left with almost nothing.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I realized that obviously money is not everything.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: In that moment, I knew that the money wouldn't matter.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so yeah, I I decided I told I basically quit.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_00: I said I'm going back to Spain to teach.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want to be in America anymore.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want this job anymore.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't care about any of this.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to go back to Europe.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm over America.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: And they asked me to keep working for them part-time remote while I was in Spain.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, Yeah, because it was on my own time on my own time, on my own terms.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it was side side money, extra money.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I said, why not?
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I continued to do that for about a year and a half um before I lost that job.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I lost that job because I worked in tr and steel trade.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: And at the time there was, there still is, but it was very prevalent at the time, the tariff war.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: So politics basically got in the way of my job.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And that was another reason I realized, okay, I don't want somebody else making decisions for what I'm gonna be paid every day.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want someone, I don't want politics or things out of my control controlling my work.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of why I decided I'm not going back to work for somebody else, and that it was time for me to finally bring this idea to life.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: So wow.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: So you had had the idea for the Spain relocation company for a while at this point.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was doing like on TikTok, I would do like I would post videos and do free consultations for people.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like a full Spain relocation agency idea.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: It was just more me, I guess, consulting.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I was just doing like free calls and I didn't really go anywhere because I didn't at the time I had a good American paycheck.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't feel the push or the urge to keep going with it because I had that safety net or what I thought was my safety net.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just uh remarking at how similar our stories actually are.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: I I think it's crazy.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_01: I people that end up joining the DNLA, we always end up having some kind of parallel with our lives.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, I also worked at a startup where I was one of the first employees and I was paid really well.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: And it was like a super cushy, really easy situation.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like this, as you said, this I made it moment where I was like, oh, it's literally not going to get better than this.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: If I have a job, this is actually the best it's gonna be.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, maybe I could get a raise or something and like make a little bit more money, but this is probably like top notch for me as someone who cares a lot about my freedom.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then yeah, and then also like trying to start a business.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I had my digital nomad coaching business idea, and I was charging$200 an hour for a call, which is for the people in the back.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: That is not a business, that is no way to make money that is.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: Not a business, please don't now I know.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, now you know, yeah, and um it's it's hard because it's like you know, I don't know.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of business is intuitive, but at the same time, it's just when you're trying to reinvent the wheel, and it just doesn't make any sense when there are other people that can just be like, oh, I already made all these mistakes.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: Let me just help you cut, yeah, cut the line and get to the actual success lot faster.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: I like that you said that because I've had honestly all the clients that I've been able to win in my business, every single one of them has told me that they know, at least in my work, for example, they know that it's not easy.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: They know that Spanish bureaucracy is a nightmare and that moving to Spain is really, really difficult.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: But the fact that I did it, like I unfortunately had to make all my mistakes so that you don't have to.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I tell my clients.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: I've made all these, whether you call them stupid or silly mistakes financially, emotionally, physically, moving across the world, all these things that I've done are part of my story and what got me here today.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: And they are things that have helped me help you more so you don't make those mistakes in the future, too.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: So totally yeah, love that.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_01: So if anybody here is wanting to create some kind of online business and you don't know what business that you want to create, one of the first questions I would ask you on a career assessment call is what is some something that you have done or like that you know a lot about, or maybe that you've made a lot of mistakes in in your life because you have a lot of earned wisdom in that area.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: If you made a bunch of mistakes somewhere, you probably actually know a lot more than someone who hasn't made the mistakes yet.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_01: So just a just a tip to think about what business you want to create.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but anyway, Bella, back to your story.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you had your years in Spain working for this startup.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: You went through COVID, you left it, you came back, and you got laid off from that job.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_01: So what'd you do when you got laid off from that job while you were living abroad?
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: That sounds like a pretty stressful situation.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: It is a very stressful situation.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: I want to say it was almost more stressful than when I was here when COVID happened.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because when I was here when COVID happened, I was 22 teaching English, making a thousand euro a month, which is insane.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's just insane to think about.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so the money I made was used toward food and life and rent.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I didn't have any money left over at all, naturally.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: I was all credit cards.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when I lost my job, I think it was more stressful because I wasn't when COVID happened, my parents paid for my flight to come home.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, there's a worldwide emergency, we're getting your ass on a damn plane, like get home, right?
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_00: That flight was like$2,000 one way.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was crazy, right?
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't have that money.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Now years later, as an adult, you know, working professionally for years, I'm in a different financial situation.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: But when you are living abroad, no matter what country it is, when you're living in a foreign country and you lose your job, you're not just losing your income.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like you lose your whole life or what feels like your whole life, because you're able to live where you live because you have that income.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: You're able to put food on your table and pay your rent where you're living because you have that income.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: You're able to make friends in that city because you can afford to live there.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like your whole life turns upside down when you are no longer in the same income situation that you're in when you're in a foreign country.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: It just makes losing your job 10 times more difficult than if you were at home, is what I'm trying to say.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: Also, because I think when you are abroad, it's not that easy to get a job in the foreign country.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like you probably don't have the contacts or network that you would have had back home.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: You just don't, there's so many things that you don't know.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like you might not know even all the correct job boards to be looking at or the cultural ways to be getting jobs.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: Or um, yeah, I don't know.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_01: I just remember like when I was living in Thailand, I had my job there.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: But if I had ever lost that job, I think I would be very, very stressed out because I wouldn't really know how to get another one efficiently.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's like, then you're so vulnerable because then it's like, oh, you gotta move back to your home country and you've just built your whole life in a foreign country.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, or just like for anybody, if if you're living in another city, I'm sure that you can relate.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you don't have your job in a new city, then then what are you gonna do?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, you go back home.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: Luckily, your parents uh funded that trip for you, but then what?
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I went home um last March.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: So March 2025, I went home.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: And at the time I didn't want to do it.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: I had I had enough savings to stay in Spain, like for a probably a year and a half or oh wait, sorry, just to clarify, this is your parents funded the trip back home for COVID, but then you went back to Spain with that remote job.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: Then you lost that job, and now you're back home this past March.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, this has been a roller coaster.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: This is why I'm an expert at relocating now.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so I came home in in March of 2025 and I lost my job.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um intending to be home for like a few months while I land a remote role and go right back to Spain.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have I'm legally allowed to live in Spain.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: I have the Nomad visa.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: So to leave Spain while having the Nomad visa also felt like I was wasting my visa because I wasn't living there on the visa that I worked so hard to get.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: So on under that visa, you need a remote job for international with international clients.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, okay, I'll just get another remote American job with American clients.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: I couldn't find that right away.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: And even when I did find it, I realized that I did not want to work for somebody else.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: That was kind of like my epiphany where I'm done looking for corporate jobs in person or remote.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: There was a time when I was at that point, I was looking for real estate jobs in Dallas.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was contacting all my all my contacts, all my networking connections.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, what am I doing?
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not gonna move to Dallas for a real estate job.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't want that.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, I don't like I don't love my hometown.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't want to be my hometown forever, but I don't also want to go move to another state.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: For me, it was about leaving the US, you know.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I said, okay, the only way I could move back to Spain, keep my visa, you know, be legal and make money is to do it on my own terms.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I just said, all right, I'm I'm done looking for jobs.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to spend all my time and energy on building this because I know it's possible.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm capable of it.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's just not really gonna be easy.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it took me, I believe it was around nine months to get my first client from when I first joined the program.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, it didn't happen as quickly as I thought.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: I was home that whole time.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_00: I never went back to Spain until I got back to Spain a month ago.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: It is now May 2026.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, it doesn't always happen how you expect it for you.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Plan it.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think as long as you just keep your vision and stay focused, you can make it happen.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: I really want to zoom into now the actual year in the program when so much was happening.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and just to clarify, you now have four basically five clients at the time of when this podcast publishes, there will be five.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: Is that right?
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: And two of them are families.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_00: So in total, I'm helping like 12 people.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so there are 12 people whose visa situations are in your hand.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_01: And um that wasn't the case at all, literally just three months ago.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because you said it took nine months and it took you nine months, and then now it's been 12.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: I started my business in right.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: I started I joined the DNL in May, and I got my first client the January after, officially assigned my first client um in January of this year.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: So cool.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's let's go back to joining the DNL.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: You already mentioned that you came in through a referral.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: One of my one of my previous clients, Sari, um, who is just still killing it, like I don't even know, five years later or something.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: She's got a funnels marketing business.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: She also is living in Spain as an American.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh yeah, through maybe the Spain connection, you girls got connected and Sari recommended the DNL.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: So you were like, okay, let's go.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then in you came.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: You already had your business idea, uh, which I also just want to point out because sometimes people are like people that message me, they're like, Yeah, Krista, I'm I'm curious about your program, but I already have a business idea.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe it's not right for me.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, that just means you've got to skip step zero with figuring out the business idea.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: So glad that you you knew that.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you came into the DNLA in May, and um, can you tell me about the early days?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like from May until November when you first started taking sales calls.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: What were you working on?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_01: What was happening and what felt confusing?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, just tell tell us about the process, your early days.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think the early days I the early days in the DNL were very different than the moment when I got my client.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um when I first joined, I I feel like other DNLA members or alum can probably say the same thing.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_00: I like didn't know what to do with the DNL.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like I didn't know where to start.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know maybe I was intimidated by it and all the work that was to come.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like there's a lot of really good information in school and your on your platform.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think you open it and then you're like, shit, I have so much work to do.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it kind of scares you, you know.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's it's amazing that you give so much content and and you know, there's so much there.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_00: But I think when you're fighting your inner demons and this is very new to you, and you haven't gone through the shadow work and the mental part of this, it just becomes it's very intimidating.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's very, very scary.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like purchasing a coach or a program is not gonna give you the results instantly.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: You have to really put in the work because once you once you purchase that or once you commit to something, the it then becomes your responsibility to make it happen.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I first joined, I kind of, I'm not gonna lie, I was probably a really bad student for like two to three months in the beginning.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't really join coaching calls, I was barely working on some modules, just like watching some videos here and there.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because at the time I was still unemployed.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: I came home with no job.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: So in my head, I'm like, okay, I just spent this money on this program.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Is it gonna am I gonna get a return on my investment?
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: If I do, it's not gonna be for a while.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I have to figure out what else I'm gonna do right now to make money.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I was in a weird stage of looking for a part-time job to supplement, you know, starting my own business.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_00: And so it took me about three to four months, and I don't know if this would be the case for everyone, but for me personally, it took me about three to four months to like fully, fully grasp that I'm doing this, I'm a full-time entrepreneur, I'm invested, I'm doing the work.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that probably was because I was unemployed.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so once I got a part-time job, I had a very bad scarcity money mindset.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't believe that the money I would invest in myself would give me a return or that it would be beneficial.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so I said, okay, I'm gonna get a part-time job, have some cash flow, obviously pay for food and groceries and life.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then that for me, once I got a part-time job, uh, actually, there was an appointment I was working 40 hours on top of this.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, once I had a really steady cash flow and I was in the groove of working in person, it really motivated me to keep going because the money that I was making from my part-time job was able to pay off the program.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it was money I was able to put into building a website, you know, coming back to Spain and getting my own place now again.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it wasn't as pretty as I thought it would be the whole year and the journey.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to work a part-time job in person in my hometown in Michigan for a year.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: That was not the plan when I was living in Spain for five years previously.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: But I also think it was that experience that really pushed me to get back to Spain.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like all I wanted to do was get back to Spain.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: And sometimes that part-time or side money or supplemental income is the push that you need, at least for me, it was what I needed kind of to make it all make it all happen.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, there were so many golden nuggets from the story that you just shared about your first few months in the program.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: So um, for any new entrepreneur out there and and anybody that's considering joining any coaching program, um, I think what we can learn from your story, Bella, is that it isn't that the coach is gonna change your life, right?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you have to show up.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: So you were saying you quote, weren't a good student, or um yeah, maybe you were watching some of the content here and there, which by the way, I think actually somewhere in the last six months since you joined, I created a whole start here module that is uh maybe a little bit more like showing you exactly what to do step by step by step.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I always encourage new members, just come to as many calls as you can in the first month to get into the habit of speaking with me, hearing what other people are doing.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: Because yeah, I think it can be pretty easy to join the program and then be like, oh my gosh, wait, this is real now.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like, wait, I actually have to show up for myself.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_01: Wait, I actually have to do something.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: And just I really want to normalize that for anybody who's again considering joining any program.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like specifically, though, the DNLA is not just a business coaching program.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's truly a life transformational program.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're joining this particular program, not just because you want to have a business, but because you want to change a huge element of your life.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like you want to set yourself free.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and there's there's actually just a lot of emotional stuff that can come up around making such a big identity change.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, thanks for sharing your journey with that.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_01: And if anybody listening is planning on joining the DNLA, now you can learn from Bella's experience.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: You're just gonna come in and watch or come to as many live calls as possible, especially at first, because then I can actually just guide you through whatever uh is coming up.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_01: And Bella, maybe you can speak to that on what happens on a coaching call.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, do you come to a coaching call always knowing what we're gonna talk about?
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, never.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm I sometimes have like ideas and notes, obviously, of things I wanna talk about, you know, but like not always.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: There are calls when I would c just show up to hold myself accountable because I know that maybe I was struggling that week with ideas and being creative, or maybe motivation to to get work done and just being in the call.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: One would either help the the things that I heard other people talk about would bring things up for me, like, oh crap, I gotta do that too, or oh yeah, I was thinking about doing that.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, can you help me with this?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think I tell people all the time who I talk to your program about, I say the accountability and the community is the best part about it because when you're building something on your own and you're doing everything on your own, you don't know what's right and what's wrong or what's the best plan of action.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: You don't know what you don't know.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so even talking to people in your program who are all doing different businesses, including yourself, I think we have very similar ideas and a very similar mindset being entrepreneurs.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I would come to a call, if I didn't have anything to talk about, I would by the end of the call have something that I do want to talk about for either the next time or homework to do from that call because you were able to debunk it for me and you know go into detail of what I had to do.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I mean, I would say half the call is I was actually prepared in the whole yeah.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think for me, that is the magic of actually working with the coach and my own experience.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: I've I've worked with like, I don't even know, probably a dozen coaches at this point, where as a client, you can go and be like, I know where I want to get to, but I'm just in this place where I don't know what my next steps are and I'm confused and I've been procrastinating and I don't even know why.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then it's that is where the coach can come in and be like, okay, let me just ask a few questions and then together we'll just figure out, oh, this is probably why you've been procrastinating.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's because you're having resistance around this thing, or that you're actually you're worried about what your friend who's not really your friend is is thinking about this whole thing.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: And let's talk about your relationship with that person and how can we move you through this emotional block.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: So actually, that that really is like half the time you don't know what to do next.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: You're not coming to a call to report, hey, this is what I've worked on, or hey, this is where I'm at.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: You just get to show up and be like, I don't know where I'm at.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then by the end, you get that clarity on what you need to do next.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's why I said I I think if you're a good student and if you did good in school, or if not, but in general, like if you're if you're good at listening, I think a coaching program is really good for you because I would say, yeah, probably half the calls.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't know what was what I needed to do for that week in order to feel productive or move the needle in my business.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: And by talking with you even for like five, 10 minutes, you would find something for me to for me to work on.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: Even if I didn't know what to do, you would help me find that inspiration or the next steps.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, it's just good to get a second set of eyes.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then obviously the other people in that call, like I have created such really, really cool friendships from people who I have been in calls with who have just messaged me on school after, like, hey, let me get your number, let's hold each other accountable, let's do check-ins.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that for me is also been great.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, online friends are so cool.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm really thankful for that aspect too.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: And you met some in real life too, didn't you?
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, yeah, Lorna.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so good.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the community is such a such an awesome part of it.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, so basically there was a shift that happened, it sounds like around May.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: You'd been in the program for a few months at that point.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Or no, May was when you joined.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then after you'd been in the program for a few months, you were like, wait a minute, I gotta get myself out of financial scarcity.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_01: So you got a job.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I also actually think I always recommend to people like, please have some kind of income while you are building your business because it's also something I really feel super strongly about in the beginning of the early stages of building a business, is that sometimes there's not a lot to do in the early stages.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's actually just a lot to think about.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot to process.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of emotional processing, a lot of decisions to be made, a lot of concepts to create in your mind.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I think if you have too much time to work on your business in the early days, you can't rush the creative process.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: So then you're and you end up with a lot of time where you're like, what am I supposed to do with my hands?
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then you get this into this whole story of I'm not doing enough.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: So whether it, whether a part-time job is to actually bring you income so that you feel regulated around the concept of money and that you have money to invest in your business, it's also just to, I think, kind of keep you keep keep you busy enough so that you find time for your business.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then when you are working on your business, then it's go time.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's my thing.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think in the beginning it's very much a mental challenge.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like joining the coaching calls, feeling a little bit of fear of not knowing what you're gonna say and what you're supposed to do.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, It's all very new.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: It's like going to school, but different because no one's ever taught you this before.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not your typical schooling.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're learning things that you've never, unless you took an entrepreneur class, maybe for your MBA or something.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: But like it's not a typical, you know, they don't teach being an entrepreneur in school.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I think it's more intimidating, honestly, than going back to school.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe at first.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then you meet other people in the program, and then you're like, oh, this is actually super chill and even kind of fun.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_00: Very fun.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_01: Very fun.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: So okay, so you had this shift, and then you were like, wait a minute, I'm gonna start showing up because I feel like you showed up a lot.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think I feel like we talked all the time.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you came to a lot of calls, and then it sounds like things started to really pick up really quickly.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then it sounds like it was almost this hockey stick situation where in just the past several months you've gone from zero to five clients, which is crazy and amazing.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: And and um do you feel comfortable saying how much these clients are paying?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: We can do it if we want to.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't mind.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't mind.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my business is really complicated, and I didn't realize it in the beginning because there's a lot of moving parts that go into my pricing.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't have a like a simple one shop, one stop shop price because it very much varies on the number of people moving, the visa they're going with, their timeline.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of I've I've met with Krista throughout this year to figure out how to how to price my my services, and we decided that I needed some add-on services.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: So long story short, there's no one set price for everyone, but the typical individual who's moving by themselves, just one person, pays me around 6,500 euros.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you've got about five clients paying an average of 6,500 euros.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_01: So correct to our families, so more, yeah.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so uh needless to say, you uh made back your investment on the DNL.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_01: Very much laughing a little bit.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: I made back my investment on the first client, yeah.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: You made back her investment and then and then some and then some, and now everything that you make is yours, girl.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's yours, and you own this shit, and like it's your business and it's your dream.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you, I I think you were telling me that your clients are just awesome people that you like really like working with them.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're my friends, yeah.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they because they're people that are like, hey, we see you, we resonate with you, Bella.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you you seem like someone that we want to work with, and they have the same dream as you.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously there's gonna be a strong resonance there.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: And how does that feel actually?
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like if you could compare the work itself that you're doing now and the way that you feel doing the work itself to the work that you were doing when you were working on someone else's dream, someone else's baby.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: What is the difference?
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: It feels like I'm not doing work, which is an amazing feeling.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: I've never had that experience.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've had jobs that I've really liked.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: I can't lie.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've enjoyed a lot of the work that I've done, you know.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_00: When I was teaching, I actually really enjoyed it.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was just not something I saw me doing forever.
• 51:11
  SPEAKER_00: But this is a very different kind of like very different kind of fulfillment that I don't know.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't I'm working and I'm making money, but it doesn't feel like I am because I enjoy it so much.
• 51:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the money is kind of just like a perk, which I it's a necessity, obviously, but it just feels like a perk because I'm really enjoying what I do every day.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't mind.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_00: I was telling someone the other day, like being an entrepreneur, there are some days when I might have to work 12 hours, but the next day I can work one or two, and it's it's okay because I might have a day where I need to get a ton of things done for myself or my clients, and they have to happen that day, but the next day I can have the whole day to myself.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's super flexible and so nice.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that for me makes it also feel like it's not really work.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I want to hear a little bit about your schedule because obviously now, so you've recently relocated back to Spain, which by the way, congratulations.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_01: I know that was your your like ultimate goal the whole time.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, basically, side note, I think it's so fascinating how some people just get so fixated on certain places in the world.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, for whatever reason, you like you're not Spanish, you just were so drawn to Spain.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: And for me, like I've just been so drawn to Southeast Asia.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I've spent eight years of my life in this like why?
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's so it's so random.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why don't you done your have you done your astro cartography, Krista?
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, of course, yeah.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_01: Are your lines there?
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, my Jupiter line goes through Thailand, which makes a lot of sense.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not sure if I'm so convinced about astro cartography because every time I've gone to where my Venus line literally runs straight through, I haven't loved it.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, and I don't know what that's about.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_00: One anyway, I asked I asked because I have two very strong lines that run through Spain, which is crazy.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: My sun line runs through Valencia, pretty crazy.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that checks out.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: So okay.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not saying I'm here because of astrology.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I moved here without knowing any of that stuff.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: But people ask me all the time, like, why Spain?
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_00: And we could because I don't have an answer, I always just say I must have been Spanish in a past life.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't I don't know.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like I also feel very drawn to Brazil.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_01: My wife has randomly brought me there six times, and I'm like, wow, why Brazil?
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_01: But I think I low-key may have been Brazilian in a past life, or like my spirit just resonates so deeply with the with the culture that I just love it.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but anyway, I was totally talking about something else.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, I turned right.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, oh my gosh, there some listener is listening right now, being like, this is what you were talking about.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, side note, I don't know, Bella, if you resonate with having ADHD.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like you really seem very structured and organized in your brain.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I am very confident that I have ADHD.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna get tested for it this summer.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: But it's been so validating.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's been so validating hearing so many people being like most entrepreneurs are neurodivergent in some way.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: Most entrepreneurs have some kind of way about them thinking or like resistance to the normal way.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_01: So, also, if anybody listening resonates with the possibility of being neurodivergent, then uh you might belong here as an entrepreneur.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: I've never been tested, so I don't know if if I have ADHD, but the things I read about it and my personality traits, the more I fall into my entrepreneurial journey, the more I'm like, oh crap, I think that isn't me.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'll I'll start a project and get so distracted and forget about it and start another one, or I'll be in the shower and have a great idea and take my phone out and put it in my notes.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm maybe I look organized in my brain from the outside, and that's fine.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad I do a good job at hiding it.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: But my brain is like a crazy, you know, that chicken scratch of brainstorming, like it's just a hot mess.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that's also what makes a really good entrepreneur, someone who can take the ideas that come to them in the shower and make something out of it, you know?
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: It is so cool that when you do work for yourself and it's your baby, right?
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: You get to nurture it and nourish it like when it when it feels right, and just intuitively give it what it needs and grow it and give it all of your love and love and care and attention.
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: And oh, I think we were talking about when like what it feels like to just what it feels like to be an entrepreneur now and how different it is from when you were working in corporate, even when you had a remote job, you were building someone else's dream, as you said.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I assume you were on someone else's schedule.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_01: And you probably were working a certain number of hours that was required of you.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_01: And now you have one day where you work 12 hours, but the next day you work one hour.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: And what are you doing on those days when you work one hour?
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you doing with your time?
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um, to be honest, it's very random.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think also when you live alone and there's no one around you to like say, let's go do I have friends, but no one lives with me, you know?
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_00: So it's really hard to hold, at least me, it's hard to hold myself to like a daily schedule.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm very like, I'm very sporadic with my my planning.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_00: But honestly, on a day where I work very little, I'm typically doing laundry and running errands and getting things done that typically in the US you'd have to do on the weekends or after the gym, after work at 8 p.m.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like things that you don't necessarily have time to get done in a typical American schedule.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: I can get done all in one day because I can because I have the freedom.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_00: So then what about your weekends?
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes I work.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_00: Some I work when I have inspiration and when I have creativity.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: If I feel like crap that day, or I feel like I'm not gonna do the best work, obviously, there are things I have to tend to from my clients that I'm not gonna forget and drop the ball on, obviously.
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to like growth and things I'm trying to think about for scaling, like I have to be in a really, really good space.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: And if I don't feel like that day is a good day for me, I will sign off for the day and expect the next day to be more productive.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, if I have to maybe not work at all on a Friday, I get last Friday, for example, I didn't work, but Saturday I worked for 10 hours.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just uh however you want it, which is what I really like.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's how however and whenever I want it.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: I do remember I was like, oh, we need to talk about this in the podcast.
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: Cause right before we got on this call, um, you were saying, Oh, I've just been working so much, like things are growing really fast because you're in a growth, you're in a major growth period right now.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we just talked about how literally in the last few months you went from zero to five clients, all really high ticket.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, that is requiring a lot of you.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: So you're in a moment now where you could scale, you could start outsourcing, you could, you know, hire somebody, even like you're you're really just on the brink of of that.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_01: So you're at your upper limit of what you can handle.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember before we got in the call, you were like, Yeah, I'm working like 40 hours a week.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, that's so crazy.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because I know when I know, like when you tell me, you know that I get it, that 40 hours is actually so much.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um, especially when you're working for yourself.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: Cause like those 40 hours, you're really working during those 40 hours.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_01: This isn't like somebody's paying you to sit behind a desk.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I was like, we know that there are people that are gonna be tuning in that are like, what the heck?
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm working 60 hours a week and I'm not getting compensated anymore for it.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just working on someone else's dream.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think my perspective of work.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_00: I think we talked about this when I was probably before I came back to Spain, we talked about this in a coaching call, Krista, about how my idea and what I've been what we've all been taught about work is that time equals money.
• 1:00:06
  SPEAKER_00: And so school, even school when you're a little kid, like you know you're gonna be there for a certain number of hours or extracurricular, sports, college, whatever.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_00: You always you learn that time is money.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: You pay for your college courses based on how many credit hours you take.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, time is money, and so when I worked in my corporate job or my my startup job, like I was paid 140,000, but I was expected to be there 40 plus hours a week, way more than 40.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so for me, and and of course, those hours are ambiguous.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we expect you to be here more, but there's no real schedule.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: We just have to kind of go above and beyond and prove yourself that you're worth it, blah blah blah.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like I didn't yeah, I don't I think what I'm trying to say is that that experience and my whole child our whole childhood teaches us that our worth and our value financially as well is determined by how many hours we are willing to commit to something, and so that's how I thought that's how I thought life was.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's how life is for most people, honestly.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_00: It still is.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: Once I joined the program and I learned through other entrepreneurs and just people I've been connecting with, like, especially when you're in high ticket, time does not mean money by any means.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think in the beginning, for me, for example, like there's all these guides I have to create, PDFs and like deliverables for clients.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_00: So right now, yes, there's a lot more time that I have to put into delivering for my clients and providing a great service, but long term, hopefully a year from now, for example, I'll be able to onboard a client automatically, you know, and just be able to be present with them and not have to do all the stuff in the back end.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so now I I now I would say 40 hours a week is like working overtime, it feels like, because I know that in a year from now I'm probably can work half the time and make the same amount of money, you know.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_00: But for now, obviously, while I'm growing, I kind of have to just grind it out.
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_00: In 40 hours, it does feel like a lot.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_01: Or a year from now, you could be working the same hours, but for X your salary.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_01: Because you could have probably raised your prices a little bit because now you're even more of an expert and have more brand recognition.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: You probably could have outsourced some things so that your time so that you have the ability to take on way more clients while still doing the same amount of work.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, or there's a lot of different ways that you can scale, but uh, this is really just the beginning.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's literally just the beginning.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: You literally just got your first client like a few months ago, and that is just so, so cool, so inspiring.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: How does that feel to know that you've now broken the surface through your business and like actually the sky is a limit now?
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like you just hear you're on the path.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_01: You've done it.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like I have a fire lit under my ass.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_00: I really, really do.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel unstoppable.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like mentally mentally, I feel unstoppable.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think fortunately or unfortunately, however you want to see it, I think I had to go through a lot of sales calls, just an FYI to other people.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think I've had like 40 some sales calls.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean speaking truth, yeah.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_00: Five clients sounds like a lot, but the back the work that went that I had to do in the in the behind the scenes to get those five, like I don't know how many hours I've put into that, you know.
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_00: But now that I've streamlined my sales call process and really honed in on that experience, Krista, I don't know if I told you this.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_00: I my my questionnaire for my sales calls is so good that my closing rate's like 50%.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, Queen.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, the last three clients that I got in the last month have been like I've had maybe six calls and I won three.
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty crazy.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, lovely.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: But I had to have 40 calls total to finally get to that point.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I know that that is the thing.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I really, really appreciate you saying the the real numbers about the sales calls, the number, the volume that you've done.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_01: Because um, as I mentioned at the beginning of this call, I never want anybody to come into the program thinking that this is gonna be some kind of get rich quick situation or that you don't have to work for this.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you gotta work for it.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_01: But the point about all of it is like, yeah, there's gonna, there's gonna be months that will go by that you're gonna feel like things just aren't budging.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're gonna have a breakthrough.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're yeah, you're literally going to break through that that ceiling.
• 1:05:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then suddenly it's like the fire is lit, the fire is raging, and now you can see into the future, can see that there's just money coming in, and things are just gonna get better and easier and more fun.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, you're gonna start taking your weekends for yourself and maybe even your Fridays too, or a Tuesday.
• 1:05:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I think also I had that breakthrough very recently, like within the last month, more or less.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_00: I think because I got because I came back to Spain, because I was in an environment that allowed me to be creative and think only about my business.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think there's a lot of distractions when you're home and people who might not, I don't want to say not support you, but maybe not get it.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_00: They don't see your vision and see why you're doing what you're doing, or maybe you don't believe in it.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think when you're in an environment when you have no distractions and you can be more creative, even for you and Bali, for example, it's the same situation.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: I think that alone, if you can afford to do that and go back and or be where you want to be, for example, if you know it's gonna foster your creativity, then I like I would tell everyone to do that because I just made 12k in a month because I came back.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like it I didn't and I was making zero K and I made zero K and nothing in April.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like you kind of have to also take a risk, you know, to to see to see the light for sure.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_01: And luckily you did have a little bit of an income with another job as you went, so you weren't like drowning the whole time.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, but you were really you just really you really just approached the whole thing so strategically from such a grounded place and a really heart-centered place, like building a business that was really aligned with um your earned earned wisdom and knowledge and experience and something that you really feel passionately about.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_01: And now you get to do work that doesn't feel like work and are being compensated for it.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_01: And again, yeah, just sky is the limit, and there's so much to look forward to in this coming year.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_01: So proud of you, and this is just it's doing doing episodes like this makes me so happy because I just know that everybody that is in the program right now, I'll end up doing an episode with them, probably if they just stick to it through through the tough, quiet moments.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_01: That I feel like that's a big takeaway from this episode um and from your story, Bella.
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_01: And we are wrapping up our time.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: I know that you but you and I both have calls that we have to jump to in the list.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_01: So we're working, women.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, Bella, if there is anybody listening, there's probably someone that is listening to this episode.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're on their commute, or maybe they're even at work, or or maybe they also just got laid off.
• 1:08:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's someone that's got some situation that's highly relevant to where you were before.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_01: And if you could just tune in, right?
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: Because the internet is so magical and energetic, we can energetically reach people from all corners of the planet.
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I just know people that type in digital nomad into whatever podcast search engine they're on have some kind of similar frequency that you and I have.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_01: So that person who's not where you are, what message do you want to share with them today?
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's so sweet.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I love this.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: Umone recently asked me how I built my business, and the advice that I gave is that you have to constantly be willing to keep going.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like just it if you want this life, you have to realize that it's never gonna stop.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_00: And in the sense of no one's coming to save you, you know.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you want something, you have to constantly work for it.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a different kind of work, you know.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe in your corporate world, you're working for a raise and trying to prove yourself.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is working.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_00: To make more money, your own raise one day, but you're proving it to yourself and to other people, to clients.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_00: So I think you have to have it in you to constantly keep going and see the vision and grind it out.
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not willing to work at crazy hours sometimes, or on a weekend sometimes, or it's not even about the hours or the work, maybe when you don't want to, you're not, maybe you're not feeling the best.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is not gonna be a good outlet for you because again, no one's I learned no one's coming to save you.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like no one's gonna fix something that you are not doing, or yeah, I think it's really important to just know that it's not gonna end.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: And if you are an entrepreneur, you won't want it to end.
• 1:10:22
  SPEAKER_00: You will want to continue to scale and grow and have cool new innovative ideas.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love that message.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it is it is really a theme of this episode that and just everything that we've talked about is that yeah, like you got you got to work for it, but it's gonna be worth it.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Because what would life feel like?
• 1:10:44
  SPEAKER_01: What would your career feel like if the work itself didn't really feel like work, if the work actually felt meaningful and if the income that you were making, you weren't just making it and getting the same thing every single month.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_01: You actually could see that, oh, if I just tweak this, if I pull this lever, if I do this, I don't have to work harder.
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_01: I can just work smarter and then double, triple, quadruple, quadruple my income.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_01: And that you have the power to do that is just so liberating, so exciting.
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_01: And um, you put yourself onto this path by making the conscious decisions that you did to invest in yourself and to to stick it out and to just keep showing the F up for your dream.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: You also were a huge support, so I don't want to to knock that.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shout out to all my all my past coaches as well.
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's you know, not we it's to do anything so big by yourself is uh why just why would you even want to?
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't make any sense.
• 1:11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you even want to?
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Also, something I want to know that I learned from you, Krista, is that obviously you're a coach and you've invested in multiple coaches.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think like if you're willing to invest in a coach for the gym, right?
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_00: Or a nutritionist to keep you accountable for eating healthy, it's like, why wouldn't you invest in a coach for your career?
• 1:12:13
  SPEAKER_00: Even if it's if there are like corporate coaches out there, you know, to help you climb the corporate ladder if that's what you want, you know.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think if you're willing to invest in a coach, at least hearing how many coaches you've invested in, it is really cool to see that people are really, really improving on themselves every day, even your coach.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's just so cool.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Totally.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're all on a growth journey for sure.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're all just standing on the shoulders of giants, if that's the expression.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, um, yeah, I know we both need to jump.
• 1:12:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna wrap up this episode.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: But before I do, I just want to give a shout out to anybody who's still here listening to the end of this episode.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: If you are curious at all about embarking on your own entrepreneurship journey, there is nothing stopping you from sliding into my DMs on Instagram.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_01: And just send the keyword apply.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_01: Apply doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to join.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_01: It just means that you're gonna answer a few questions that I have for you so that you and I can have an actual useful conversation.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes if you slide into my DMs and you're like, hey, Krista, can we talk?
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like, now I have to pull out this information.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: I have a little automated system that's gonna ask you the things that I need to know so that I can actually advise you about whether this is a path that makes sense or not.
• 1:13:39
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I'm notorious for telling people, yeah, this probably isn't the right time for you.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not gonna try to pull you into it.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_01: So send me the keyword apply on Instagram at Cristabella Travels.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_01: And let's just talk about if now is the right time, if you have any kind of hesitations, or if you low-key would actually be a freaking phenomenal entrepreneur because you might be sitting on a gold mine and you might just have no idea.
• 1:14:06
  SPEAKER_01: You have no idea.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_01: So that's my uh little message for you.
• 1:14:10
  SPEAKER_01: Bella, do you have anything that you want to say?
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_01: Or if anybody actually here is inspired by your story, um, can they reach out to you or maybe they even want to message you about Spain?
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Of course.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my Instagram is bella.in dot Spain.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my website is belocaspain.com.
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I think I think if if anyone listening who's still listening and they have a weird pull to a country and they don't know why, I guess I would just highly recommend exploring it because I never thought I'd be in Spain owning location business.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_00: I used to want to move to Manhattan American Corporate, and here I am.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_00: So fame.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_01: What were we thinking for?
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_01: We just didn't know.
• 1:14:58
  SPEAKER_01: We just didn't know.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't know.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_02: We had no idea.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Love it.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, this has been so fun to catch up with you.
• 1:15:08
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to say again, I'm so freaking proud of you.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, literally heartbursting whenever I hear about all your successes.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_01: And just I know there's so much more where this came from because obviously you've committed so hard to yourself, to your dreams.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll see what happens in the next chapter.
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm excited to update you.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_01: All right, thanks everyone for listening to the Digital Nomad Life Podcast, and we'll see you in the next episode.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_01: Bye.