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Did Ryan Day Already Learn The Big Lesson Of The Seahawks' Super Bowl Win? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eye tomorrow morning for Tuesday, February tenth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Tom Moore. The ball State game in
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  Speaker 1: am going to break kfabe here real quick and just
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  Speaker 1: sort of let you know. Tony Gardam and I were
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  Speaker 1: planning on doing a show on Ohio State special teams
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  Speaker 1: and hey, they've made a bunch of changes and what
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  Speaker 1: is that going to mean for this upcoming year? And
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  Speaker 1: then I saw a tweet on Monday morning following the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl from Front Office Sports. I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: read it to you. The Seahawks spend more on their
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  Speaker 1: special teams than any other team in the NFL at
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  Speaker 1: nine point three two five million dollars in salary. Their
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  Speaker 1: kicker just scored over half the points, and their punter
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  Speaker 1: down to punt inside the five yard line. S Seattle
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  Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. So after we did show a
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  Speaker 1: show on you know what did what did Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: learn from Indiana's National championship season. I haven't come up
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  Speaker 1: with the headline yet, but it's going to be something like,
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  Speaker 1: did Ryan Day figure out Seattle's secret to winning the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl? And the secret, Tony is special teams going
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  Speaker 1: welcome in Tony Gerderman of Buckehuddle dot Com, Tony, I
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  Speaker 1: think before we you know, before we dive into this reel,
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  Speaker 1: you know, individual hires. It does feel like after a
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  Speaker 1: season where Ohio State has had a couple of games
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  Speaker 1: where they had crucial missed kicks that they ended up losing,
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  Speaker 1: it does feel like there is at least a renewed
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  Speaker 1: emphasis on special teams this year for Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, every time something bad happens in the playoffs. You
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  Speaker 2: go back to Urban Meyer after the twenty sixteen playoffs
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  Speaker 2: against Clemson when they got shut out and he said,
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  Speaker 2: this is never going to happen again at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 2: Every time something bad happens in the playoffs, you're the
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  Speaker 2: head coach is immediately like, this is never going to
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  Speaker 2: happen again at Ohio State, and you've got to do
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  Speaker 2: something to try to limit the mistake that you've made
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  Speaker 2: and correct that moving forward. And yeah, I think they've
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  Speaker 2: They've done it with a pretty wide ranging, all encompassing
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  Speaker 2: approach here, not just players, the coaches as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that coaching change, maybe coaching addition. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's even really a change, it's just coaching addition.
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  Speaker 1: Robbie Disher, the special teams coach for Illinois last year,
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  Speaker 1: is now the special teams coach at Ohio State. And
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  Speaker 1: this has felt like one of those things where a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago Ohio State fans were really upset
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  Speaker 1: because they had a special teams coach who was part
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  Speaker 1: of the ten countable assistance. Now you don't, you have
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  Speaker 1: ten countable assistants. You can hire as many other assistants
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  Speaker 1: as you want to. And you know, the Parker Fleming
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  Speaker 1: era did not go great at Ohio State. But I
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  Speaker 1: think that Ryan Day may have initially learned the lesson, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's not worth having a full time coach to do.
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  Speaker 1: And now maybe maybe that was not quite the correct takeaway,
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  Speaker 1: and he's taken a little bit of a change here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and you know, the park Fleming era, if
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  Speaker 2: things had gone really well on special teams during that time,
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  Speaker 2: then maybe you could have accepted the fact that he's
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  Speaker 2: you know, who'sy recruiting, he's an assistant recruiter to other positions.
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  Speaker 2: But there were, you know, every year, there was just
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  Speaker 2: something you're two or three somethings that just inexcusable for
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  Speaker 2: a special teams to do. That would be very costly,
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  Speaker 2: And so now you bring back a special teams coordinator
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  Speaker 2: again to free up all of your coaches a little
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  Speaker 2: bit and then put more on this guy's plate to
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  Speaker 2: really get after this special teams area, whether that's you know,
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  Speaker 2: punt blocking, looking for something there, punt return terms of
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  Speaker 2: blocking or kick return terms of blocking, just spending more
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  Speaker 2: time trying to maximize the special teams because really, how
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  Speaker 2: much time do assistant coaches have to maximize special teams
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  Speaker 2: over the course of a season. Probably not as much
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  Speaker 2: as they'd like, and certainly not as much as the
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  Speaker 2: head coach would like. So what do you do now
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  Speaker 2: that you've got essentially unlimited money for coaches and unlimited
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  Speaker 2: spots for coaches, not that you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: this is a three million dollar coach, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just going to throw that out there, but it's still
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  Speaker 2: it's a commitment. It's a financial commitment, and it's also
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  Speaker 2: a serious coaching staff commitment because this guy's going to
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  Speaker 2: be running your special teams and he's going to have
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  Speaker 2: other coaches doing things for him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does sort of free up some of those
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  Speaker 1: other coaches, you know, the Ohio State defensive assistance for example,
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  Speaker 1: the position coaches, the offensive position coaches. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: them were involved in Hey, you are in charge of
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  Speaker 1: punt coverage or you were in charge of kick return
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  Speaker 1: coverage or whatever. So you are taking a little bit
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  Speaker 1: off of those guys plates and having one person sort
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  Speaker 1: of centrally in charge. I did kind of like that
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  Speaker 1: in some ways, where you had those coaches maybe providing
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  Speaker 1: some additional and you know, different kinds of feedback and
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing, but having some you know, the
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  Speaker 1: one person who's in charge. He can, of course, he
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  Speaker 1: is still free to go knock on James Laurniis's door
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  Speaker 1: or Matt Greery's door, or Tim Walton's door or whoever
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  Speaker 1: and get whatever feedback and input he wants to. And
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  Speaker 1: he will be getting feedback and input on a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of new faces in that special team's room. Buckey's
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  Speaker 1: bringing in two new kickers. One is Connor Hawkins, a
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  Speaker 1: transfer from Baylor. Another one Cooper Peterson. This one's kind
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  Speaker 1: of flew under the radar, a little bit, three star
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  Speaker 1: freshman kicker out of North Carolina. It is a fresh
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  Speaker 1: start for the Buckeyes there at the kicking position, which is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, considering the view that the Ohio State fan
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  Speaker 1: base kind of had of the kicking position in the
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  Speaker 1: last few years, that is probably not a not a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a breath of fresh air maybe in
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  Speaker 1: that kicking unit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Cooper Peterson one of the top kickers in
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  Speaker 2: the nation top twenty kickers in the nation depending on
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  Speaker 2: who you ask. And not that you're expecting a true
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  Speaker 2: freshman to win a job, but you know, we did
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  Speaker 2: see Jaden Fielding as a true freshman walk on win
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  Speaker 2: the kickoff job and then the others took care of
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  Speaker 2: the place kicking. Maybe something like that happens where you're again,
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  Speaker 2: you've got the space and the allotments. You worry about
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  Speaker 2: these and you worry about that. And with Connor Hawkins,
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  Speaker 2: we saw a guy last year who has experienced winning games,
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  Speaker 2: has three of his four fifty yarders last year. With
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  Speaker 2: the long and fifty four yards, he basically missed the
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  Speaker 2: same number of field goals as Jaden Fielding did last year.
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  Speaker 2: They both missed four field goals, but none of Hawkins's
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  Speaker 2: misses were under forty yards, you know. So there's like
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  Speaker 2: the things that you want to shore up. Just be
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  Speaker 2: automatic when you should be automatic, and give us a
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  Speaker 2: chance when you need to give us a chance. And
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  Speaker 2: I think they've done that here with Hawkins adding him
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  Speaker 2: and now you can have an opportunity at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the half, at the end of a game, if
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  Speaker 2: you're fifty five yards away, you're like, well, we've got
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  Speaker 2: a shot, let's go ahead and take it, whereas before
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  Speaker 2: you didn't necessarily have a shot. And I point back
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  Speaker 2: to the twenty twenty four Oregon game where they felt
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  Speaker 2: they needed to get to where you'd be kicking a
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  Speaker 2: forty five yard or you know, your forty five yard
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  Speaker 2: field goal to win it. What if they only needed
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  Speaker 2: fifty and you had Will Howard get down three seconds earlier,
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  Speaker 2: you know, something like that. So I think that's what
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  Speaker 2: this can give you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things where how much of
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  Speaker 1: a difference does a kicker make in a lot of seasons,
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  Speaker 1: not much at all. In some seasons, boy, a made
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  Speaker 1: field goal at the end of the twenty twenty two
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  Speaker 1: Peach Bowl would have made a significant difference in Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State football history. Or a made field goal potentially at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the Big Ten Championship game last year.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, some you don't need it until you need it,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you really need it. That is true of
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  Speaker 1: punting as well. And I think we've think of times
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  Speaker 1: back in Ohio State history where the punt has been
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  Speaker 1: a real weapon for the Buckeyes. It hasn't really been
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It's been just okay. The
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  Speaker 1: one person coming back among the Ohio State special teams
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  Speaker 1: is punter Joe McGuire, but he's joined by Brady Young
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  Speaker 1: out of Houston Christian. He's a transfer punter and Ohio native.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming Antony. I'm not going to make you vamp
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  Speaker 1: on a transfer punter from Houston Christian, so I will
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  Speaker 1: move right on to the And if you're wondering met
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  Speaker 1: Nick McCarty. He transferred to Arizona State, So that's where
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  Speaker 1: Nick McLarty went, and Ohio state's long snapper from last year,
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  Speaker 1: John Furlman, who also was a transfer from Arizona State,
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  Speaker 1: he has gone as well. He graduated out of eligibility.
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  Speaker 1: So two new long snappers as well, Dalton Riggs out
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  Speaker 1: of UCF he's a transfer, and then Brody Jenkins, who
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  Speaker 1: is a freshman long snapper. The other long snapper on
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  Speaker 1: last year's Rochester Grant Mills. He transferred to UMass. So
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  Speaker 1: lots of changes in the Ohio State Special Teams room,
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  Speaker 1: both in terms of the staff and the personnel. Well
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  Speaker 1: all of that, Tony just kind of points to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this is again a little bit of a
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  Speaker 1: fresh start, but also the potential to do something at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State hasn't done in a long time, which is
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  Speaker 1: take special teams from a thing that happened sometimes when
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  Speaker 1: the offense and defense aren't on the field to potentially
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  Speaker 1: something that could be a weapon.
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  Speaker 2: For Yeah, and we'll see what, you know, Joe McGuire
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  Speaker 2: looks like this year, I think we finally answered the question, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: if you've got two Australians you've got none, that sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing, like it's just you just can't have too
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  Speaker 2: one one at a time and go from there and
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  Speaker 2: see what happens. And you know, we've talked before about
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  Speaker 2: the reason they like Joe McGuire's because they know what
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  Speaker 2: they're going to get every single time essentially, which is
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  Speaker 2: forty one yards fair catch, boom, move on to the
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  Speaker 2: next play. It'll be interesting to see if they want
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  Speaker 2: to do more now where you've got, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: we've got this, You've got this new special teams coordinator.
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  Speaker 2: Does he want to try some things that worked at Illinois,
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  Speaker 2: what has worked for him in the past. He's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's try this. We like this rollout. We've got an Australian,
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  Speaker 2: let's use it. We don't just need them to kick
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  Speaker 2: the ball up. He can kick it, you know, from
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  Speaker 2: side to side and you know, on the ground and
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  Speaker 2: things like that make the most of them. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you've got fresh eyes, fresh bodies, and new chances and
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  Speaker 2: renewed like renewed starts basically for everybody here. So I
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  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be interesting to watch, and I think
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  Speaker 2: there's reason for optimism because you've got all of these
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  Speaker 2: people that are going to be wanting to show yes,
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  Speaker 2: this was the right thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, so do two Australian punters cancel each
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  Speaker 1: other out and make them an American punter. Does that
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  Speaker 1: make the ball spin the opposite direction the northern Hemisphere
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  Speaker 1: Way Tony will be doing an exhaustive scientific study on that,
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  Speaker 1: and you can find that on the huddle Board presented
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  Speaker 1: by Jeffrubies, Columbus at bucke huddle dot com later this week.
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  Speaker 1: Almost certainly he seems to the kind of person that
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  Speaker 1: would just really carried group projects in school, does any folks?
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  Speaker 1: I think so? So we will find that out to
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  Speaker 1: yeah there, but only if you're there with us at
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  Speaker 1: pukeye huddle dot com. We may do a show about it,
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  Speaker 1: and if we do, you can find that on your
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  Speaker 1: podcast platform of choice by searching Buckeye Huddle and of
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  Speaker 1: course at YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle. That'll do
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  Speaker 1: it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.