Latest / Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood / 70. The Rise and Fall of the East India Company
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- 2:13Speaker 1: with that. In my personal life, I saw my little
- 2:17Speaker 1: girl go to her dance performance, so like there's a
- 2:20Speaker 1: finale every year of the dance show. And it was
- 2:24Speaker 1: very interesting because one of the other woman I know,
- 2:27Speaker 1: her daughter is also in the show and her daughter's
- 2:29Speaker 1: a wee ballerina. Mine doesn't do ballet, but she does
- 2:33Speaker 1: other stuff, and so we're chatting away and she's like,
- 2:36Speaker 1: did you bring tissues? Because you will cry? I was ah,
- 2:39Speaker 1: I'll be fine. She's just gonna dance. And there I am. There,
- 2:45Speaker 1: I am watching her and tears are streaming down my face.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Good thing it was too hot for me to put
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- 2:58Speaker 1: would have been just danger. But I just I was
- 3:03Speaker 1: so overwhelmed with emotion. It was very It was very
- 3:07Speaker 1: interesting because, like I was watching her do this front
- 3:12Speaker 1: role she has to do, and it was the one
- 3:14Speaker 1: thing that she was struggling with, and she was talking
- 3:17Speaker 1: about quitting dancing. She's only seven and she was talking
- 3:20Speaker 1: about quitting because she couldn't do this front roll and
- 3:23Speaker 1: it was really getting to her. So I've now invested
- 3:27Speaker 1: in a mat for her to do things, because she
- 3:30Speaker 1: never did any dancing around me. She doesn't do stuff
- 3:35Speaker 1: like that. But now summer's here, I've got a mat
- 3:37Speaker 1: so she can do it outside and there's space and
- 3:40Speaker 1: she can practice. And I'm seriously considering putting both my
- 3:45Speaker 1: kids into like gymnastics, just for core strength. But we'll
- 3:49Speaker 1: see how that goes. But I know what you're thinking.
- 3:51Speaker 1: You're thinking, quit your jibber Drabber in fact me, in
- 3:54Speaker 1: fact you, I will. But first we've got to get
- 3:57Speaker 1: our source. On our source are the Anarchy, The Relentless
- 4:03Speaker 1: Rise of the East India Company by William Darlimpole, Empires,
- 4:07Speaker 1: Nations and Politics of ethnic Identity by Summit Guha, Trading Places,
- 4:11Speaker 1: The East India Company and Asia sixteen hundred to eighteen
- 4:14Speaker 1: thirty four by Anthony Farrington. Conflicting cooperation in Anglo Mingo
- 4:19Speaker 1: trade relations during the reign of urung Zeb by fart Hassan.
- 4:24Speaker 1: The Pirates Pact, The Zebra Alliances between history's motatorious buccaneers
- 4:28Speaker 1: in colonial America by Douglas Arburgess. The East India Company
- 4:32Speaker 1: and British Empire in the Far East by Marguerite ire Wilber.
- 4:36Speaker 1: A Treatise on the Principles, practice and History of Commerce
- 4:39Speaker 1: by John Ramsay McCullough. Early English Travelers in India A
- 4:42Speaker 1: study in the travel literture of Elizabethan and Jacobean periods,
- 4:45Speaker 1: with particular reference to India by ram Chandra Pisad. The
- 4:50Speaker 1: Imperial Gaziteir of India from nineteen o eight. The East
- 4:55Speaker 1: India Company a history by Brian Gardner. England's Quest of
- 4:59Speaker 1: Eastern Trade by Sir William Foster sixteen hundred. The British
- 5:03Speaker 1: East India Company by Paul Saduke Documenting the British is
- 5:06Speaker 1: India Company and their involvement in the East Indian Slave
- 5:09Speaker 1: Trade by Bonnie Pinkston. European slave Trading in the Indian
- 5:12Speaker 1: Ocean fifteen hundred eighteen fifty by Richard B. Allen. Lords
- 5:16Speaker 1: of the East, The East India Company and its Ships
- 5:18Speaker 1: by Jean Sutton. The Corporation That Changed the World by
- 5:22Speaker 1: Nick Robbins. Legislating Instability Adam Smith, Free Banking and the
- 5:27Speaker 1: Financial Crass, Legislating Instability, Adam Smith, Free Banking and the
- 5:31Speaker 1: Financial Crass, Legislating Instability, Adam Smith, Free Banking and the
- 5:36Speaker 1: financial Legislating Instability. Adam Smith, Free Banking and the Financial
- 5:41Speaker 1: Crisis of seventeen seventy two by Tyler Goodspeed. And of
- 5:48Speaker 1: course we have our favorites, history dot com, Smithsonian dot
- 5:51Speaker 1: com and biography dot com iosiding comfortably good, then let's begin.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Sometimes you might think to yourself, you know, if you're me,
- 6:03Speaker 1: why talk about one singular person in history when I
- 6:07Speaker 1: can talk about an entire company, Especially when that company
- 6:11Speaker 1: has done so many things, and yet most of us
- 6:15Speaker 1: only really know all that in passing or as villains
- 6:18Speaker 1: in a Pirates of the Caribbean movie, which incidentally is
- 6:21Speaker 1: not too far from the truth, because how do I
- 6:25Speaker 1: put this? Basically, yes, but minus you know, magical cursed pirates,
- 6:33Speaker 1: just villainy, really lots of villainy, and we gloss over
- 6:39Speaker 1: it so much like we hide the fact that the
- 6:43Speaker 1: original colonization of Africa was by this corporation, by this
- 6:51Speaker 1: for profit business, which was supported by the British crown,
- 6:57Speaker 1: which then led to sort of the Britain like official
- 7:01Speaker 1: colonization of India. But this is it's fucking nefarious, is
- 7:07Speaker 1: what it is. And let's just let's just get into it,
- 7:12Speaker 1: shall we. So let's start off from the beginning. So
- 7:18Speaker 1: let's roll back to something you would have learned in
- 7:20Speaker 1: history class, and that would be Vasco da Gamma. So
- 7:24Speaker 1: in fourteen nine to eight he discovers a sea route
- 7:27Speaker 1: to India. And the reason this Portuguese explorer was looking
- 7:32Speaker 1: for a sea rout was because Europeans did not want
- 7:36Speaker 1: to have to traverse through the dangerous lands occupied by
- 7:40Speaker 1: Arabs and Turks. And so you know, the sea rout
- 7:44Speaker 1: was definitely the way to go, you know, it was
- 7:45Speaker 1: the easiest option for them for trade. And so over
- 7:49Speaker 1: the next century they start building trade routes from Europe
- 7:52Speaker 1: to India to Indonesia, like they're really making their way
- 7:56Speaker 1: across the world. They're starting to circumvent, you know, and
- 7:59Speaker 1: of course everybody wants a piece of the pie and
- 8:03Speaker 1: something to season it with. And so in September fifteen
- 8:07Speaker 1: ninety nine, this small collection of merchants there's like eighty
- 8:10Speaker 1: in total, they petitioned Queen Elizabeth first to let them
- 8:14Speaker 1: trade over in the East Indies as it was known,
- 8:18Speaker 1: and by sixteen hundred she issues a wild charter giving
- 8:24Speaker 1: them a monopoly for what like fifteen years to trade
- 8:28Speaker 1: over in the East. So it's not a typical partnership
- 8:33Speaker 1: which was back in the day, like one family would
- 8:36Speaker 1: have an alliance to another family and they would be trading.
- 8:41Speaker 1: This started as a joint stock company which could then
- 8:47Speaker 1: issue shares in like an open market to other investors.
- 8:51Speaker 1: So it really is the beginning of of you know, corporations.
- 8:57Speaker 1: So yeah, by sixteen hundred it is the Company of
- 9:02Speaker 1: Merchants of London trading into the East Indies and then
- 9:07Speaker 1: it sort of gets an informal name of the Honorable
- 9:11Speaker 1: East India Company or even the John Company, and then
- 9:17Speaker 1: it changes its name later on again, but that's another
- 9:20Speaker 1: story for later on. So this Royal Charter is very
- 9:24Speaker 1: interesting because it gives this company, this civilian company, more
- 9:32Speaker 1: powers than it should have. The charter gives the company
- 9:36Speaker 1: the right to wage war where necessary. It also has
- 9:41Speaker 1: a provision that allows it to mint its own money,
- 9:45Speaker 1: build forts and castles, raise armies, and acquire territory if
- 9:52Speaker 1: it was in the interests of Britain and the company,
- 9:55Speaker 1: and effectively, as far as they're concerned, everything is in
- 9:59Speaker 1: the interests of Britain and the company. It doesn't actually
- 10:04Speaker 1: mention anything about holding territories. But I mean, it's all
- 10:10Speaker 1: about interpretation, isn't it. It's reading the small print. So
- 10:15Speaker 1: by the time it comes to you know, be born.
- 10:19Speaker 1: The East India Company has one hundred and twenty five
- 10:23Speaker 1: shareholders and a capital of like seventy thousand quid, which
- 10:29Speaker 1: is a massive, massive chunk of money, especially considering like
- 10:37Speaker 1: England at the time was it was not the most affluent.
- 10:44Speaker 1: A lot of this was because of Henry the Eighth
- 10:45Speaker 1: who had squandered just so much between you know, changing
- 10:51Speaker 1: the entire country's religion and going to war with the
- 10:55Speaker 1: King of France in some weird dick measuring contests. But
- 10:59Speaker 1: he just couldn't help. But anyway, back to the ec See,
- 11:03Speaker 1: like most companies at the time where family owned businesses,
- 11:06Speaker 1: or like one family was going into business with another family,
- 11:09Speaker 1: they were very sort of closed affairs. But this was
- 11:14Speaker 1: a business, a company that was owned entirely by its shareholders,
- 11:18Speaker 1: all one hundred and twenty five of them. It had
- 11:22Speaker 1: a governor to manage it. I'm twenty four directors, so
- 11:25Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of people in this and normally
- 11:29Speaker 1: I wouldn't go into so many details about like shareholders
- 11:31Speaker 1: and directors and things like that, but this is for context.
- 11:37Speaker 1: So this company exists to maximize the profits of its shareholders,
- 11:43Speaker 1: not unlike companies today. So that's why it exists, that's
- 11:47Speaker 1: why it's there. So its main goal is just to
- 11:50Speaker 1: make more money, more and more money. But in order
- 11:54Speaker 1: to do that, traders got a trade. So the merchants
- 11:57Speaker 1: in sixteen oh one, they get the company ships and
- 12:00Speaker 1: they set sale for the East Indies. They try to
- 12:04Speaker 1: get to Spice Island, but they're a wee bit late
- 12:07Speaker 1: on this. So when they get there, the Portuguese and
- 12:09Speaker 1: the Dutch are already established and they're like, na pal
- 12:13Speaker 1: off you pop. And so they decide, sure, okay, we're
- 12:17Speaker 1: going to go to India instead, but not straight away.
- 12:21Speaker 1: So the first thing they do is they set up
- 12:23Speaker 1: these outposts and they start trading sort of silver and
- 12:27Speaker 1: English wool for things like silk and tea and sugar
- 12:32Speaker 1: and opium because drugs very very popular, very easy to
- 12:38Speaker 1: make money on, you know. So of course, so they
- 12:44Speaker 1: realize they've got a lot of money and goods going
- 12:48Speaker 1: through these outposts, and as such they need to actually
- 12:51Speaker 1: protect their goods and their profits, and so they hire
- 12:56Speaker 1: mercenaries and the like to protect the goods from raw
- 13:00Speaker 1: and thieves and pirates and other such angry people like
- 13:07Speaker 1: I don't know people who's Spacio invaded and you really
- 13:09Speaker 1: shouldn't be there because of like that. But anyway, and
- 13:13Speaker 1: remember the company is still really lucky because it has
- 13:15Speaker 1: this fifteen year monopoly in British trade, so it only
- 13:19Speaker 1: really has to worry about the Dutch. In the Portuguese.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Speaking of the Portuguese, she casually slips into conversation. When
- 13:30Speaker 1: the company's ship Hector, actually gets to India and sixteen
- 13:34Speaker 1: o eight it starts this war of control which lasts
- 13:38Speaker 1: for four years, resulting in the Portuguese having their asses
- 13:42Speaker 1: handed to them. And it is very clear that the
- 13:45Speaker 1: East India Company is not playing games. So at this
- 13:49Speaker 1: point this is just a bunch of traders who are
- 13:52Speaker 1: fighting a global superpower because Portugal was, you know, pretty
- 13:56Speaker 1: big at the time. So I'm not that fussed. This
- 13:59Speaker 1: is fine, you can kind of go all right, you know,
- 14:02Speaker 1: it's the past. Fighting happens. So three years later, Sir
- 14:06Speaker 1: Thomas Rowe, who is representing King James the First because
- 14:10Speaker 1: Elizabeth has died, James has now taken over and god,
- 14:14Speaker 1: I hate the man so much. He's such a bastard.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Him in a shitty bible. So Thomas Rowe he meets
- 14:20Speaker 1: with the Mughal King Jahangear and he gains permission to
- 14:24Speaker 1: establish a factory in Surat, which to them was a
- 14:27Speaker 1: brilliant we go screw yourselves to the Portuguese and the Dutch.
- 14:32Speaker 1: So in return for allowing the company to establish a
- 14:35Speaker 1: factory in Surat, they promise to provide jahangear with the
- 14:39Speaker 1: best of the best, the choicest goods, the krem De
- 14:43Speaker 1: the krem he would have first pick whatever he desired.
- 14:47Speaker 1: But of the two parties, the East India Company definitely
- 14:50Speaker 1: got the better part of the deal. So of the
- 14:53Speaker 1: two parties involved, however, the East India Company definitely got
- 14:57Speaker 1: the better part of the deal. So Indian artisans, I
- 15:01Speaker 1: mean they're shit hot, like have you seen a sari?
- 15:04Speaker 1: Like ooh, the craftsmanship. But so the artisans and things
- 15:09Speaker 1: they created, they were in high demand, especially throughout Europe,
- 15:14Speaker 1: but all across the globe, but mainly Europe because the
- 15:16Speaker 1: skills and techniques they were seen as exotic and you know,
- 15:22Speaker 1: proper fucking quality. And then of course there was the
- 15:26Speaker 1: access to India's natural resources. The natural produce of India
- 15:30Speaker 1: is you know, you've got tea, You've got spices, and
- 15:33Speaker 1: silks and gold. There's just so much and the company
- 15:37Speaker 1: just wanted to get their grubby little hands on it.
- 15:40Speaker 1: And if it was in their hands, it wouldn't be
- 15:42Speaker 1: in the hands of the Dutch, who still had the
- 15:44Speaker 1: monopoly of the spice trade in the East Indies. And
- 15:47Speaker 1: so they are they're still fighting, but in sixteen twenty three,
- 15:52Speaker 1: the Dutch completely massacres the British traders and Amboina and Indonesia.
- 15:58Speaker 1: So after this, they're like, we're just gonna keep concentrating
- 16:01Speaker 1: on India because this is we don't need the murder. Thanks.
- 16:06Speaker 1: They must have been so mad as well being defeated
- 16:08Speaker 1: by the Dutch Hi had mityal stirvn Ha. Yeah, deadlands.
- 16:14Speaker 1: But you know what's absolutely wild is that throughout this
- 16:17Speaker 1: for this past twenty years at the East India Company
- 16:19Speaker 1: has been running, it has been run almost entirely out
- 16:25Speaker 1: of this fella's house with only was it sex employees
- 16:28Speaker 1: on staff. Listen, I'm not here to provide any support
- 16:31Speaker 1: to the East India Company, but like, how confident do
- 16:34Speaker 1: you have to be to be six people running an
- 16:39Speaker 1: organization across the globe when there isn't even a decent
- 16:43Speaker 1: intercontinental post service, Like there's no guarantee you're going to
- 16:48Speaker 1: know what's happening all the way over there. Like what
- 16:53Speaker 1: about one hundred years after you know, the company was established,
- 16:57Speaker 1: it finally moves into its permanent home office in Life,
- 17:00Speaker 1: London and it has like thirty five members of staff
- 17:02Speaker 1: at this point and by the late eighteen hundreds, the
- 17:06Speaker 1: permanent staff reaches one hundred and fifty nine. I think
- 17:10Speaker 1: let's take a moment to put this into perspective. So
- 17:15Speaker 1: the East India Company is this corporation being controlled by
- 17:21Speaker 1: no more than one hundred and fifty nine people. One
- 17:26Speaker 1: hundred and fifty nine people at any one time at
- 17:29Speaker 1: most are going to be responsible for so much destruction,
- 17:35Speaker 1: so much pain, so much death like that is absolutely bonkers.
- 17:41Speaker 1: But anyway, the East India Company decided that it needed
- 17:44Speaker 1: to set some permanent bases in India because Indonesia just
- 17:49Speaker 1: wasn't on the card since you know, the Dutch absolutely
- 17:51Speaker 1: handed their asses to them, and they basically do this
- 17:54Speaker 1: over twenty to thirty years sort of increments. So you've
- 17:58Speaker 1: got Madras, which is the first permanent base. It's settled
- 18:02Speaker 1: in sixteen thirty nine. Then a base is established in
- 18:05Speaker 1: Bombay in sixteen sixty eight, and then finally a base
- 18:08Speaker 1: is settled in Kolcutta in sixteen ninety. So yeah, these
- 18:12Speaker 1: three settlements are all set up and they're meant to
- 18:14Speaker 1: be these trading outposts and it's where they you know,
- 18:17Speaker 1: they can store their goods and everything. So it's all
- 18:20Speaker 1: settled there, and again they have their little crews and
- 18:24Speaker 1: armies and everything just to take care of it, just
- 18:26Speaker 1: to protect them, for no other reason. So between establishing
- 18:30Speaker 1: the outposts in Bombay and Calcutta, so between sixteen sixty
- 18:34Speaker 1: eight in sixteen ninety there was a there was a
- 18:38Speaker 1: way incident. And by way incident, I mean the company
- 18:42Speaker 1: gets permissioned from King James the Second to sail nineteen
- 18:46Speaker 1: ships from London all the way to India to deal
- 18:52Speaker 1: with the Mules. So the Mugals at this point are
- 18:56Speaker 1: this incredibly wealthy dynasty and so they are the ruling
- 19:02Speaker 1: elite in this area of India where the company really
- 19:06Speaker 1: wants to get their roots down, and the Moggles they
- 19:09Speaker 1: are open to trade with the East India Company. Unfortunately,
- 19:14Speaker 1: there is a difference of opinion because the Mugules have
- 19:18Speaker 1: personal opinions regarding trading with other traders, you know, people
- 19:22Speaker 1: who are not the East India Company, having particular preferences
- 19:28Speaker 1: regarding taxation and of course you know, having authority over
- 19:33Speaker 1: their own lands. So the Mughal leader oring Zeb he
- 19:37Speaker 1: is basically in control of the Indian subcontinent, and the
- 19:44Speaker 1: English come to throw their way around and he says,
- 19:46Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers and takes on
- 19:49Speaker 1: the East India Company in a war that lasts four
- 19:52Speaker 1: years and ends with what has been referred to many
- 19:57Speaker 1: times as an embarrassing deffen eat for the EIC, with
- 20:03Speaker 1: soldiers and officers imprisoned, their fleet fucking scattered and mingle
- 20:10Speaker 1: soldiers so many Mugho soldiers completely outnumbering the EIC, right,
- 20:17Speaker 1: they just start filling up the bombay for it in
- 20:20Speaker 1: this just show just the show of strength. And after this,
- 20:27Speaker 1: like whole fandango, you'd think they would have been like expelled,
- 20:32Speaker 1: you know, you'd make that assumption. But no, after this,
- 20:38Speaker 1: you know, oring Zeb is perfectly satisfied that he has
- 20:43Speaker 1: proven his point and he decides to let the East
- 20:46Speaker 1: India Company stay like he allows them to just stay
- 20:52Speaker 1: in India, you know, because they're subdued, and he's convinced
- 20:57Speaker 1: that because he has managed to quell them, that they
- 21:01Speaker 1: will someday become allies. You thought British would, Okay, sure,
- 21:09Speaker 1: Jan Sure. Unbeknownst to them, because of the lack of
- 21:15Speaker 1: honor to anybody not a white European, the East India
- 21:18Speaker 1: Company decided that being allowed to stay in the country
- 21:24Speaker 1: was basically permission to, you know, try and take over
- 21:27Speaker 1: the entire place. Yeah, and they are. They are twiddling
- 21:31Speaker 1: their thumbs, just waiting for the right moment. So when
- 21:34Speaker 1: org Zeb passes away the Mughal Empire, it just starts declining.
- 21:41Speaker 1: The last powerful Mughal leader is gone. And so this
- 21:45Speaker 1: is the perfect opportunity for the East India Company to
- 21:49Speaker 1: just stomp in in their boots. It takes them just
- 21:53Speaker 1: over a decade to acquire a farming from a Mughal
- 21:57Speaker 1: king in Bengal. So they managed to bribe this dude.
- 22:02Speaker 1: He's not that powerful, but it does give them this
- 22:05Speaker 1: wee bit of authority. So this decree gives the company
- 22:09Speaker 1: rights to trade judy free, so without tax, in return
- 22:13Speaker 1: for a small fee to the Mughal court. So this
- 22:18Speaker 1: is a ridiculous deal because it makes it basically impossible
- 22:22Speaker 1: for other European powers to compete with the British in
- 22:26Speaker 1: this level of trade. So the Dutch, the Portuguese like,
- 22:30Speaker 1: they cannot do the same offer. You know, they're not
- 22:35Speaker 1: going to have this option. And that is a sweet
- 22:37Speaker 1: bloody deal for the EIC. Not only do they get
- 22:40Speaker 1: to screw over the competition. But it also makes you know,
- 22:45Speaker 1: the Bengali rulers really really mad because this decree means
- 22:49Speaker 1: that they lose a bunch of their revenue share, so
- 22:52Speaker 1: they're losing the money they would have got from taxation.
- 22:56Speaker 1: So and as far as the Europeans are concerned, if
- 22:58Speaker 1: it's written on paper, if it is signed or stamped,
- 23:01Speaker 1: it is good to go and that gives them authority.
- 23:05Speaker 1: So even though at this point in the Mughal leader
- 23:08Speaker 1: he didn't really have much power or authority in the province,
- 23:12Speaker 1: because they had this signed piece of paper, the EIC
- 23:16Speaker 1: believed that they had this authority. And so the Bengali
- 23:20Speaker 1: leaders are seriously pissed off at this dude in Delhi,
- 23:23Speaker 1: who doesn't have the power, is allowing this to happen.
- 23:27Speaker 1: He's not only giving this British company a monopoly on trade,
- 23:33Speaker 1: but it also leads to this infiltration of British forces
- 23:36Speaker 1: in Bengal and this seriously pisses people off and unsurprisingly
- 23:42Speaker 1: skirmishes Ensiu. You see, without Orgzeb things started to crumble
- 23:47Speaker 1: because when he was alive, he was this dominant force,
- 23:50Speaker 1: he was this central authority to the Indian subcontinent. And
- 23:55Speaker 1: then when he passed away India, it fragments, right, so
- 24:00Speaker 1: it starts breaking up, and these rulers of the Bengali
- 24:03Speaker 1: they start rolling independently and then they start clashing with
- 24:07Speaker 1: each other. They're having battles, they're fighting, and then this
- 24:12Speaker 1: this gives the British a chance. This gives the East
- 24:15Speaker 1: India Company. These cracks are great for him to just
- 24:19Speaker 1: stick their fingers in and pull apart. So the British
- 24:25Speaker 1: military power just gains and gains, and while everything is
- 24:31Speaker 1: crumbling around them. The Persian leader, Nadir Shah, he plunders Deli,
- 24:39Speaker 1: he empties all the treasure. He has defeated the Mughal
- 24:42Speaker 1: emperor right at this point, and he heads back to
- 24:45Speaker 1: Persia over the Kaiba Pass with just so much shit.
- 24:49Speaker 1: He has camels and elephants, a peacock thrown, I might
- 24:54Speaker 1: add a peacock thrown. That's just fabulous. And so he's
- 24:57Speaker 1: taken that. He's also taken the dark and it's big sister,
- 25:02Speaker 1: the koh Nur, which I'm sure you'll recognize from being
- 25:06Speaker 1: in the news and from being one of the most
- 25:09Speaker 1: famous pillaged gems in the history of the world. Nadirshah
- 25:15Speaker 1: had just pilled for it. He'd taken all the treasure,
- 25:17Speaker 1: he was gone, thus leaving the Mughal emperor in a
- 25:21Speaker 1: very vulnerable position because it didn't have the funds anymore.
- 25:25Speaker 1: So all of these leaders that were sort of skirmishing
- 25:29Speaker 1: with the Eic, they were now forced to make alliances
- 25:34Speaker 1: with them and to basically well some of alliances and
- 25:39Speaker 1: others were forced to accept British rule. But Britain wasn't
- 25:43Speaker 1: the only one involved. See, the French had also decided
- 25:48Speaker 1: they wanted to get their pause onto India as well.
- 25:52Speaker 1: And the one thing that Europeans really had over the
- 25:55Speaker 1: Indians at the time was the advancement of weaponry. Em
- 26:00Speaker 1: In the Battle of Madras, the French they had these
- 26:03Speaker 1: rapid firing weapons which caused the much larger army they
- 26:08Speaker 1: were fighting to retreat basically without actually fighting, because they
- 26:12Speaker 1: were like, no, I'm not dealing with that. And by
- 26:16Speaker 1: the mid seventeen hundreds, the weaponry of the Europeans was
- 26:21Speaker 1: far superior to that that was in India. Now this
- 26:24Speaker 1: may shock you, gentle listener, but the French and the
- 26:26Speaker 1: British weren't exactly best days. In fact, some might even
- 26:30Speaker 1: call it a rivalry considering they were two rival companies
- 26:33Speaker 1: vying for the same spot. So the French CAMPAIGNE and
- 26:37Speaker 1: the EIC, they were basically feuding with each other will
- 26:41Speaker 1: trying to defeat the Muggles. So by the time the
- 26:44Speaker 1: seventeen fifties roll around, the Mughal Empire is in these
- 26:48Speaker 1: fractured states. You've got leader fighting with region, fighting with region,
- 26:53Speaker 1: and they're lacking funding and with all of these other
- 26:57Speaker 1: powers starting to wild their way. In the majority of
- 27:01Speaker 1: these rulers, they realize they have to either ally with
- 27:05Speaker 1: the British or will They're forced to ally with the
- 27:09Speaker 1: British like they have to accept British authority one way
- 27:12Speaker 1: or another. And the Nawab they become this independent region
- 27:18Speaker 1: from Delhi or out with Delhi, and they're basically like
- 27:23Speaker 1: a splinter group at this point. And they are pissed
- 27:27Speaker 1: off that the EIC have built Fort William in Kolcutta
- 27:33Speaker 1: without you know, the Nawab of Bengal's permission, Nawab Suraj.
- 27:39Speaker 1: So what happens then is that Saraj attacks the British
- 27:45Speaker 1: fort with his army of thirty thousand men. So there's
- 27:49Speaker 1: like a thousand settlers like in this fort, it's it's
- 27:53Speaker 1: meant to be like a township kind of idea. It's
- 27:55Speaker 1: like there's a thousand settlers and like they get away,
- 28:00Speaker 1: they escape along with the military commanders. And while they scarpled,
- 28:04Speaker 1: it leaves about one hundred men who are unsurprisingly easily
- 28:10Speaker 1: overtaken by this you know army of thirty thousand men.
- 28:16Speaker 1: So the prisoners they're rounded up and they're put into
- 28:19Speaker 1: this basement. Yeah, and after they're put in the basement,
- 28:23Speaker 1: so there's you know, torture and other such horrors and
- 28:27Speaker 1: they are left with I think two dozen men by
- 28:32Speaker 1: the end of it. If that, and the survivors are
- 28:35Speaker 1: telling a horrific, horrific story. And this music trickles back
- 28:41Speaker 1: to Britain and people are pissed, so they want they
- 28:46Speaker 1: want retaliation. They want them to to retake the fort.
- 28:52Speaker 1: So because losing Calcutta it is a massive, massive, like
- 28:58Speaker 1: money drain for the company. So the province of Bengal
- 29:02Speaker 1: is like the most advanced, you know for textiles, and
- 29:06Speaker 1: the Indian textiles had just invaded, had flooded British society
- 29:13Speaker 1: like they were such an amazing thing, like Calico tafata,
- 29:19Speaker 1: like these are all just desired. And on top of that,
- 29:24Speaker 1: like the economic production of the era, Like in seventeen
- 29:30Speaker 1: fifty it was happening in Bengal, India and England was
- 29:35Speaker 1: only making like two percent, so it's it's there. So yeah,
- 29:40Speaker 1: the company's losing money and it is well pissed off.
- 29:44Speaker 1: Enter sociopath and absolute fucking knobhead Robert Clive. So Clive,
- 29:51Speaker 1: he leads these trips from Madras and they come in
- 29:56Speaker 1: and they overtake Fort William and a few my later,
- 30:00Speaker 1: the Bengal Nawab they were turn and that's like seventeen
- 30:04Speaker 1: fifty seven at this point, so they were turn and
- 30:07Speaker 1: this leads to the Battle of Plus A because who
- 30:11Speaker 1: does the Nawab have with them this time the French
- 30:15Speaker 1: of course. So, being a backhanded piece of shit, arsehole Clive,
- 30:23Speaker 1: he you know, he does the underhand thing because rules
- 30:28Speaker 1: of engagement are only relevant when dealing with the white people. No,
- 30:33Speaker 1: that was not a mistake. And so the treacherous lecturius
- 30:38Speaker 1: arsehole Clive, he makes this super secret deal with Mir Jafar,
- 30:44Speaker 1: who is Nawab Saraj's like right hand man. He is
- 30:48Speaker 1: the person to go to. So he makes this deal
- 30:50Speaker 1: with him that if he, you know, stabby Stabby, gets
- 30:54Speaker 1: rid of Saraj in the battle, he will make him
- 30:57Speaker 1: the new Nawab. Right, This bullshit battle ensues and Suraj
- 31:03Speaker 1: his spiy senses are tinkling. He can send some things up,
- 31:07Speaker 1: so he just gets the hell at a dodge. He's like, nope,
- 31:10Speaker 1: arios away he goes, and so Ja'afar decides, sure, let's
- 31:17Speaker 1: just sell out India to the British and informs them
- 31:21Speaker 1: of where Saraj is. They discover him, he is killed,
- 31:26Speaker 1: and Ja'afar gets the title. He's so desired. But it
- 31:30Speaker 1: wasn't all sunshine and lollipops, because the one thing you
- 31:34Speaker 1: can always trust a shitbag to do is to do
- 31:37Speaker 1: shitty things. So the first thing Robert Clive does is
- 31:42Speaker 1: he absolutely pilfers the treasury. Right, so he takes all
- 31:47Speaker 1: of the goods from the Nawab, leaving Jafar with sweet
- 31:51Speaker 1: fuck all, which seems fair in fairness, but god, they're
- 31:56Speaker 1: all oursehols and the company is just looting, which incidentally
- 32:03Speaker 1: is a word from Hindustani, which is how it's like
- 32:07Speaker 1: a bridge language. It's how do I say this without
- 32:10Speaker 1: making it sound weird. It is an Indo Aryan language.
- 32:14Speaker 1: It's a ploistic language. It's like a mishmash of like
- 32:18Speaker 1: Hindi and Urdu. And it was mainly in the North
- 32:23Speaker 1: India sort of well before the partition happened, sort of
- 32:28Speaker 1: that area, and it was generally used with like mercenaries
- 32:33Speaker 1: and you know, people like the East India Company and
- 32:37Speaker 1: other such groups. So people from armies would also use it,
- 32:42Speaker 1: so it was just kind of I think a little
- 32:43Speaker 1: bit easier for them to understand. I assume. I've had
- 32:48Speaker 1: some people argue that it's not a language, that it's
- 32:51Speaker 1: like more slang. But here's the thing, what we assume
- 32:57Speaker 1: to be slang isn't always slang. Scotts is an indigenous
- 33:02Speaker 1: language to Scotland, which is a combination of languages high
- 33:06Speaker 1: Bare and No English, Aave, so on and so forth.
- 33:10Speaker 1: I don't think you can just discredit something just because
- 33:13Speaker 1: you don't personally like it anyway, that's not the point.
- 33:16Speaker 1: That's me just rambling about languages for a minute. So like, yeah,
- 33:22Speaker 1: things are not going great for India at this point,
- 33:26Speaker 1: and and you see the thing is what is also
- 33:28Speaker 1: going on at this time is the seven years war,
- 33:31Speaker 1: and it's like all of the European superpowers are in it,
- 33:33Speaker 1: and it's running from like seventeen fifty six to seventeen
- 33:36Speaker 1: sixty three. So that's happening about this too. And what's funny,
- 33:41Speaker 1: not funny ha, but like funny weird is that by
- 33:45Speaker 1: the end of the Seven Years War, the East India
- 33:48Speaker 1: Company has a fucking makeover because it decides it's not
- 33:52Speaker 1: really trader anymore. It's not trading, they're rulers. The AIC
- 33:58Speaker 1: is losing it, you know, can tell privileges and stuff
- 34:01Speaker 1: and gaining just control and power. And in seventeen sixty five,
- 34:07Speaker 1: under the slimy hands aclive, the East India Company wins
- 34:12Speaker 1: the Battle of Buxar and this which basically crushes the
- 34:17Speaker 1: Mughal Empire. So the exiled emperor shat Alam he is
- 34:22Speaker 1: forced to sign this decree and it makes the East
- 34:27Speaker 1: India Company the Dwan of Bengal and so Shatlam becomes
- 34:33Speaker 1: a pensioner of the company and the Nawab of Awa
- 34:36Speaker 1: he becomes their ally. So this decree also authorizes the
- 34:42Speaker 1: company to collect Bengali revenue. The EIC is now able
- 34:48Speaker 1: to collect the tax from ten million bengalleys like this.
- 34:54Speaker 1: This is unprecedented. And it is also because of these
- 34:57Speaker 1: two battles, the Battle of plus A and the Battle
- 34:59Speaker 1: of Buks And this also gives them this massive, massive
- 35:07Speaker 1: stretch of territory. So you've got uh go to mil
- 35:12Speaker 1: Nadu Orrisa, West Bengal, Bhr Maharashta, Gujarat Pradesh. And I
- 35:19Speaker 1: am sorry if I mispronounced those names. I did try
- 35:21Speaker 1: and practice, but I feel like I've sucked it up somehow.
- 35:24Speaker 1: So on top of this, because again they're fucking pissed
- 35:29Speaker 1: off at the French, they expel all of the Frenchmen
- 35:34Speaker 1: from Bengal just like no French, your French, get the
- 35:37Speaker 1: fuck out of Bengal. So and like over the next
- 35:41Speaker 1: few years, is responsible for like half of all of
- 35:46Speaker 1: the EIC's prophets. But Clive O, the greedy little goober mouch,
- 35:52Speaker 1: he wants more. You see Bengal's coffers. They're being drained
- 35:57Speaker 1: out of Bengal and into Britain. So not only is
- 36:02Speaker 1: like this chunk of look from Bengal going directly into
- 36:05Speaker 1: Clive's back pocket two hundred and thirty four thousand to
- 36:09Speaker 1: be exact, which is twenty three million pounds in today's money,
- 36:14Speaker 1: I shit you not. And he also gets two point
- 36:18Speaker 1: five million from the defeated rollers of Bengal and that
- 36:21Speaker 1: goes into the EIC treasury, which is two hundred and
- 36:26Speaker 1: fifty million pounds in today's money. Because corporate gradio, like
- 36:32Speaker 1: the entire contents of the Bengal treasury. We're just taken out,
- 36:40Speaker 1: put into boats and just sent down the Ganges over
- 36:45Speaker 1: to Fort William like nice and easy. Oh An a
- 36:48Speaker 1: big agent to it. But Robert Clive is thirty three
- 36:51Speaker 1: years old at this point, thirty three, and he has
- 36:54Speaker 1: all of this ridiculous money because he's a colonizing dick. Well,
- 37:00Speaker 1: because I forgot to mention as well. He also gets
- 37:02Speaker 1: an annual salary of thirty thousand pounds per year and
- 37:08Speaker 1: he claims jagir which is like tax revenue for life.
- 37:14Speaker 1: So he is making more money in more money and
- 37:17Speaker 1: more money. And so the East India Company, it is
- 37:21Speaker 1: firmly based in North East India, but obviously wants more
- 37:26Speaker 1: because of course it does, and it keeps expanding its
- 37:30Speaker 1: territory by doing what it does best, causing conflict. It
- 37:34Speaker 1: basically sets nawabs and princes against each other. So it's
- 37:39Speaker 1: causing more fractures like throughout these leadership in India and
- 37:45Speaker 1: like in Bengal. So the East India Company they are
- 37:48Speaker 1: running the show, but they've got like these puppet leaders,
- 37:51Speaker 1: like the Shattalam, they've got them in place, and so
- 37:54Speaker 1: they start replicating this all over and so they use
- 38:00Speaker 1: the name and authority of the Mughal Empire, which is
- 38:05Speaker 1: not really a thing at this point anymore, and they're
- 38:07Speaker 1: using it as as a political like disguise. Is that
- 38:14Speaker 1: is that a thing they're like hiding behind it. It's
- 38:16Speaker 1: a front. It's a front. That's the fucking word I'm
- 38:18Speaker 1: looking for. It's a front. The Mughal Empire is like
- 38:22Speaker 1: a front. And they use this in order to collect
- 38:26Speaker 1: taxes and they use like local rulers to do that.
- 38:29Speaker 1: And so it's yeah, I'm not saying it's like a
- 38:32Speaker 1: pyramid scheme, but like kind of I guess. And for
- 38:37Speaker 1: a good chunk of time, like British silver had been
- 38:41Speaker 1: used for trade, it was, but considering everything that aice
- 38:46Speaker 1: had their hands on, they didn't need to do that anymore,
- 38:50Speaker 1: you know, with all of the pilfering and pillaging and
- 38:53Speaker 1: corruption and treachery and proptying, you know. But yeah, I
- 38:58Speaker 1: like in Bengal, they dismissed all of the revenue officials
- 39:04Speaker 1: in India's major trading cities and replaced them with a
- 39:07Speaker 1: bunch of English fellas, which of course was just super
- 39:11Speaker 1: convenient for the East India Company. Unfortunately, the same could
- 39:16Speaker 1: not be said for the Bengalleys. It was an absolute
- 39:19Speaker 1: catastrophe with the East India Company being in control and
- 39:24Speaker 1: because of the Eics savagery, the engineer the worst famine
- 39:29Speaker 1: India had ever seen. Now, famine wasn't exactly unheard of
- 39:33Speaker 1: in India before, you know, the invasion of European powers,
- 39:38Speaker 1: but leaders of the time, the indigenous leaders, that is,
- 39:41Speaker 1: they actually gave a shit about their people, at least
- 39:45Speaker 1: in a monetary sense, you know. But the way colonialism
- 39:48Speaker 1: works is a colonial power can only really justify invading
- 39:55Speaker 1: another area, setting up its own government, and claiming everything
- 39:59Speaker 1: of yourself. The only way you can do that is
- 40:04Speaker 1: if the very base of your enterprise is systemic racism,
- 40:08Speaker 1: because you really have to convince yourselves that you are
- 40:10Speaker 1: more important than everybody else, than everybody else is lesser
- 40:14Speaker 1: than you. The people who aren't like you, are lesser
- 40:16Speaker 1: than you. So yeah, the East India Company, the amount
- 40:24Speaker 1: of famines that happened under the road is fucking ridiculous,
- 40:27Speaker 1: and they're all engineered by their own greened They've forced
- 40:31Speaker 1: farmers to grow high value crops like indigo and poppy.
- 40:35Speaker 1: But this isn't exactly because fabric dye and opium are
- 40:39Speaker 1: exactly what you need to stave away the hunger pangs.
- 40:43Speaker 1: And instead of putting any policies in place to you know,
- 40:45Speaker 1: maybe curve the whole starving a nation to death thing,
- 40:50Speaker 1: you know, they actually slashed wages and hoarded food grains
- 40:55Speaker 1: and then price scouted them. And not only that, oh
- 40:59Speaker 1: my god, it gets it's worse. Not only were they
- 41:02Speaker 1: not allowing them to grow fucking food, but they also
- 41:06Speaker 1: forced peasant farmers to give them half half of their
- 41:12Speaker 1: cash harvest. And then what happened, surprisingly during a fucking famine,
- 41:18Speaker 1: a bunch of people die. So these peasants they die,
- 41:23Speaker 1: and what does the East India Company do. They raise
- 41:25Speaker 1: the taxes some more because they have to, you know,
- 41:30Speaker 1: make up for the loss of the taxation that they
- 41:33Speaker 1: lost because dead people can't pay taxes. What a fucking surprise.
- 41:38Speaker 1: Maybe if you want to get money from these people,
- 41:41Speaker 1: you might want to actually keep them alive a wee
- 41:43Speaker 1: bit longer. Anyway, by the end, ten million people died,
- 41:52Speaker 1: but their profits were at a record high, So of
- 41:56Speaker 1: course they didn't give a flying fuck, and they were
- 41:59Speaker 1: really really proud of it, because company officials boasted about it.
- 42:04Speaker 1: But of course never fucking satisfied because you know what
- 42:07Speaker 1: they did. They sent their armies into Indian towns, villages,
- 42:12Speaker 1: cities to ransack them and to torture the people there
- 42:17Speaker 1: to find their expensive goods. Also, in addition, furthermore, I
- 42:24Speaker 1: know you're going to be absolutely flabbergasted with this new
- 42:26Speaker 1: piece of information I'm about to provide you, but the
- 42:30Speaker 1: East India Company was also involved in the slave trade.
- 42:33Speaker 1: I know you're shocked. They have been just a pillar
- 42:37Speaker 1: of justice up until now, and they had been trading
- 42:41Speaker 1: people for the majority of the seventeen hundreds. By the
- 42:44Speaker 1: seventeen thirties, it had a large scale transportation of enslaved
- 42:49Speaker 1: people and this continued all the way up to the
- 42:52Speaker 1: seventeen seventies. So not only did it engage in the
- 42:55Speaker 1: slave trade, it engaged others in the slave trade to
- 42:58Speaker 1: maximize profits, so it would send some enslaved people to
- 43:03Speaker 1: its outposts and settlements in India to basically well be slaves.
- 43:09Speaker 1: And not only did the company have actual slaves, it
- 43:12Speaker 1: also brought in indentured servants and horrific working conditions for
- 43:18Speaker 1: Indian artisans as well, so weaivers and other such people
- 43:23Speaker 1: in the you know, the textile industry. The company forced
- 43:26Speaker 1: them to accept fucking pittance for wages, and so this
- 43:31Speaker 1: industry just declines. So the East India Company over over
- 43:38Speaker 1: the period of its existence, de industrializes Bengal and like
- 43:43Speaker 1: even as a company, it can't control itself properly because
- 43:46Speaker 1: there was so much fucking corruption that there was these
- 43:51Speaker 1: shortfalls and expected revenues, and the East India Company is
- 43:56Speaker 1: left with debts of one and a half million pounds
- 43:59Speaker 1: and it owes like a million quid and unpaid tax
- 44:03Speaker 1: like to Britain to the crown. And this knowledge becomes public,
- 44:09Speaker 1: resulting in like thirty banks collapsing all over Europe and
- 44:14Speaker 1: trade just stops. This does sound vaguely familiar, doesn't it.
- 44:19Speaker 1: So this is the very first I think, And so
- 44:22Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy two they need a bailout and they
- 44:25Speaker 1: go to the Bank of England because there's an investigation,
- 44:28Speaker 1: you see, and they realized there's so much fucking corruption
- 44:31Speaker 1: and all of these, you know, people who had worked
- 44:35Speaker 1: for the East India Company just seemed to be getting
- 44:38Speaker 1: loads of money and seemed to be doing really well
- 44:39Speaker 1: for themselves, and people were getting really fucking suspicious and
- 44:44Speaker 1: they started to learn that these people were living in India,
- 44:47Speaker 1: living the high life and they were receiving like jukiers.
- 44:52Speaker 1: And so they get a massive bailout and people like Clive,
- 44:58Speaker 1: Robert Clive, who has gained seat in the House of Lords,
- 45:01Speaker 1: he has been knighted and he is sitting on a
- 45:03Speaker 1: pretty fortune. He's also battling a an opium addiction. Okay,
- 45:09Speaker 1: trigger warning, I'm gonna mention suicides. You're gonna want to
- 45:12Speaker 1: skip forward about twenty seconds from now. So Robert Clive
- 45:17Speaker 1: in seventeen seventy four takes his own life by slicing
- 45:20Speaker 1: his jugular with a blunt paper knife. He left no
- 45:24Speaker 1: note and when he passed, he was buried in an
- 45:26Speaker 1: unmarked grave. Okay, now that we've got that over with.
- 45:30Speaker 1: So yes, it was at this point in seventeen seventy
- 45:34Speaker 1: two or seventy seventy three, that it became very apparent
- 45:38Speaker 1: that you know, the East India Company had gone rogue
- 45:42Speaker 1: and that they needed, you know, some some regulation, some supervision.
- 45:48Speaker 1: Like the East India Company was supposed to have been
- 45:50Speaker 1: paying like forty six million pounds in today's money, like
- 45:54Speaker 1: to the government in order to like keep the monopoly
- 45:57Speaker 1: on on your trade in India. But then it hadn't
- 46:03Speaker 1: been paying it since seventeen sixty eight because it had
- 46:06Speaker 1: been too busy just reaping the funds for himself, because
- 46:10Speaker 1: it had the money, because it had been stealing it.
- 46:14Speaker 1: So the Regulating Act of seventeen seventy three comes in,
- 46:17Speaker 1: and this moves towards government control because it has a
- 46:23Speaker 1: foothold in India and the government wants control of India,
- 46:27Speaker 1: so it doesn't want to fuck everything up just yet.
- 46:30Speaker 1: So the Regulating Act it's supposed to prohibit the company
- 46:35Speaker 1: from receiving you know, gifts, rewards and bribes and sure, okay.
- 46:44Speaker 1: And it basically sets the foundation for like centralized administration
- 46:49Speaker 1: in India because it amalgamates like the Madras, Mumbai and
- 46:55Speaker 1: Bengal sort of governments so the Governor of Bengal becomes
- 46:59Speaker 1: the Governor General of India with an executive council of
- 47:03Speaker 1: it's like four people, and so Warren Hastings becomes the
- 47:07Speaker 1: first Governor General and it establishes in Fort Williams in Kokura.
- 47:12Speaker 1: There's like a Supreme court and it has the British
- 47:14Speaker 1: legal system and the regulations. It just gets worse because
- 47:20Speaker 1: it just continues to fuck up the Bengali textile industry
- 47:24Speaker 1: because now there's an eighty percent tax on important Indian cotton,
- 47:28Speaker 1: which is to protect the British textile industry, and so
- 47:35Speaker 1: Bengali textile it's going less out. And then the main
- 47:39Speaker 1: export is opium, which is being sent to China, because
- 47:47Speaker 1: of course it is. It's taking opium to China, it's
- 47:50Speaker 1: taking tea to America. It's just it's just a smuggler's
- 47:56Speaker 1: board of bullshit. I'm like, here's the thing. The East
- 47:59Speaker 1: India Company at this point, it wasn't it wasn't ruled
- 48:04Speaker 1: by the crown. It was only kind of connected to
- 48:06Speaker 1: the Crown, so it could engage in all this shit
- 48:09Speaker 1: without sort of retaliation happening. So it could get away
- 48:15Speaker 1: with more things without fucking things up before Britain because
- 48:17Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, Britain that was doing it, it
- 48:20Speaker 1: was the East India Company. And so the East India
- 48:23Speaker 1: Company just keeps fucking growing. So it gets to the
- 48:28Speaker 1: point that by eighteen oh three, when it captures Delhi,
- 48:34Speaker 1: that it has an army of two hundred and sixty
- 48:37Speaker 1: thousand men. Two hundred and sixty thousand, like that was
- 48:43Speaker 1: double the British army at the time, and the United
- 48:46Speaker 1: States army around about this time, for context, was twelve
- 48:49Speaker 1: thousand men. And even if you add in like the
- 48:54Speaker 1: Marines and like the Navy, it's like another six thousand.
- 48:59Speaker 1: So yeah, like, the East India Company's private army was
- 49:05Speaker 1: fucking huge. And through all of this you've got the
- 49:10Speaker 1: Crown technically being separate from the East India Company. And
- 49:14Speaker 1: so it's in Britain's best interest to protect the company
- 49:21Speaker 1: because it's still able to do what Britain wants and
- 49:25Speaker 1: to get that foothold. Oh it's just absolute bollocks, isn't it.
- 49:31Speaker 1: And yeah, all from a staff of less than one
- 49:34Speaker 1: hundred and sixty like bollocks. So, yeah, the East India
- 49:39Speaker 1: Company has a fucking army and it also has this
- 49:42Speaker 1: massive network, this administrative network throughout the country. And even
- 49:47Speaker 1: though it's not a full conquest of the country, this
- 49:50Speaker 1: is colonialism by corporation, Like it's not even by a country.
- 49:59Speaker 1: This is what absolute bullshit is this colonialism by corporation,
- 50:04Speaker 1: Like that's that's what's fucking astounding to me. It's like,
- 50:08Speaker 1: this is just like could you imagine Ikea just showing
- 50:12Speaker 1: up and kicking the door in and being like, we
- 50:14Speaker 1: own this shit now, and now we own your neighbor's house,
- 50:17Speaker 1: and now you have to pay me taxes, Like what
- 50:21Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, technically, Amazon, I think owns my soul.
- 50:25Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's in the terms of conditions, but like,
- 50:30Speaker 1: could you imagine It's absolutely ridiculous. But yeah, I'm going
- 50:35Speaker 1: off and I ran back to the thing. So from
- 50:38Speaker 1: around eighteen oh three, Napoleon he's kicking about and he
- 50:41Speaker 1: is fucking things up because he realizes he can't fight
- 50:46Speaker 1: and you know war, he decides to hit them where
- 50:49Speaker 1: it hurts in the money. So because he loved warring
- 50:53Speaker 1: so much and realizing he couldn't beat Britain in that way,
- 50:57Speaker 1: he imposes this economic blockade. Yes, like in Star Wars,
- 51:02Speaker 1: and and so trading in Europe is just fucked up
- 51:06Speaker 1: for Britain. And so they're trying to get into Asia,
- 51:09Speaker 1: and because they want to get into Asia, they need
- 51:11Speaker 1: to dissolve this whole monopoly that the East India Company has.
- 51:16Speaker 1: And so between this and Adam Smith's whole like free
- 51:18Speaker 1: trade scenario, people are kind of more into the concept
- 51:22Speaker 1: of dissolving the company or the company's monopoly and to
- 51:28Speaker 1: improve the growth of British industry and trade. And though
- 51:33Speaker 1: it does take a full decade to get into place,
- 51:35Speaker 1: the Charter Act, it basically strips the East India Company
- 51:41Speaker 1: of this or the monopoly of the Indian trade and
- 51:46Speaker 1: so other merchants they come in and they're allowed to
- 51:49Speaker 1: trade in India, but there's this like really strict license system,
- 51:54Speaker 1: and then by eighteen thirty three it also loses the
- 51:58Speaker 1: monopoly in China. Now I didn't cover China so much
- 52:02Speaker 1: in this episode. I might do it another time, but
- 52:05Speaker 1: this would be like a two to three hour episode
- 52:07Speaker 1: and I just can't and I don't think any of
- 52:10Speaker 1: us have time for that right now. So it basically
- 52:13Speaker 1: becomes this administrative body for British territories in India, and
- 52:20Speaker 1: the Act also allowed British people to settle in India.
- 52:25Speaker 1: And so you've got Brits coming in and you've got
- 52:29Speaker 1: fucking Christian missionaries and Indians are like, what the actual
- 52:35Speaker 1: fuck is this nonsense? Because like it's bad enough you've
- 52:39Speaker 1: littered our treasures and our jewels and our you know, money,
- 52:45Speaker 1: but now you're going to take our culture from us?
- 52:48Speaker 1: Like what absolute tom fuckery is this? Like no, no,
- 52:57Speaker 1: So like religion in like Indian societ, Like they're pissed off.
- 53:02Speaker 1: I mean you've got like they managed to piss off
- 53:04Speaker 1: simultaneously Hindus Muslims and Seeks seeks. How do you piss
- 53:09Speaker 1: off a Sikh? So not only do they decide to
- 53:12Speaker 1: like tear apart, you know, religion and culture, they also
- 53:15Speaker 1: tried to enforce the English education system. So around about
- 53:20Speaker 1: this time as well, the Victorians they kind of look
- 53:24Speaker 1: at everything that happened in India and they're starting to
- 53:26Speaker 1: feel a little bit funny about it. Could you remember
- 53:30Speaker 1: they saw themselves as the intellectual descendants of like the Romans,
- 53:34Speaker 1: and they saw themselves as being cultured and respectable and civilized.
- 53:39Speaker 1: And so by bringing in these changes by trying to
- 53:43Speaker 1: anglicize India. They felt like, we're helping look at us,
- 53:47Speaker 1: We're bringing this, this and this, because they really did
- 53:50Speaker 1: see themselves as superior and they felt that by doing this,
- 53:55Speaker 1: by this whole colonization situation, they were improving the lives
- 53:59Speaker 1: as if you hadn't fucked them up in the first place.
- 54:02Speaker 1: But like whatever, So although many Indians were rightfully suspicious
- 54:06Speaker 1: of the fucking missionaries, they would use you know, techniques
- 54:10Speaker 1: and gimmicks and other bullshit to convert people, and it
- 54:14Speaker 1: really was about anglicizing India. And then so like the
- 54:20Speaker 1: churches will be fine and the bishops will be fine.
- 54:24Speaker 1: But they started taxing lands belonging to like mosques and temples,
- 54:29Speaker 1: as if that isn't just playing bigotry, Like it's obvious.
- 54:34Speaker 1: But most of the country at this point is under
- 54:38Speaker 1: the control of the East India Company, and at this
- 54:43Speaker 1: point they are desperate to seize you know, the last
- 54:48Speaker 1: few remaining areas which aren't under their control, and so
- 54:52Speaker 1: they start putting in these really awful policies like the
- 54:56Speaker 1: doctrine of lapse, and then and they just start annexing
- 55:00Speaker 1: these independent states. So I'm gonna apologize for my shitty
- 55:05Speaker 1: pronunciation again, I really am trying. Udauper Satara Nagpur, Simbulper, Simbalper,
- 55:12Speaker 1: Joutper and jan Zy jan Zy. That's the one with
- 55:17Speaker 1: laxed me by. She was the she was awesome. She's
- 55:21Speaker 1: in one of my kid's books actually, And this just
- 55:25Speaker 1: fucks up everything. And I think like her son wasn't
- 55:28Speaker 1: permitted to sit on the throne and stuff like that,
- 55:30Speaker 1: so it just fucks up like succession and everything else.
- 55:34Speaker 1: So on top of this, you've also got people that
- 55:37Speaker 1: are losing their jobs and there's heavy like taxation and
- 55:42Speaker 1: everything is just it's just deteriorating the area. And with
- 55:49Speaker 1: this going on, Oh and what did I forget? I
- 55:53Speaker 1: did forget the very very obvious and aggressive racism of
- 55:58Speaker 1: Indian soldiers, the who joined the company and Indian soldiers,
- 56:03Speaker 1: they're paid less, they're trude like shit, and they were
- 56:07Speaker 1: always forced to serve far away and they would be
- 56:11Speaker 1: sent even like out with Indian borders. The whole purpose
- 56:15Speaker 1: was they were going to be removed from an area.
- 56:17Speaker 1: They know. They wanted to alienate them, they wanted to
- 56:22Speaker 1: make it uncomfortable for them. And I'm fairly certain. This
- 56:26Speaker 1: is where the Butcher of Hydrabad comes from, Like he
- 56:32Speaker 1: had turned guns on a bunch of his own men
- 56:34Speaker 1: because he was a fucking cuntfyce bastard. But anyway, all
- 56:40Speaker 1: this leads to just unrest in India and people being
- 56:45Speaker 1: absolutely done with this colonial exploitation. So by eighteen fifty
- 56:51Speaker 1: seven there's the first uprising and it always started with
- 56:55Speaker 1: a rumor, and the rumor was designed to upset Indian soldiers.
- 57:02Speaker 1: So whether it was true or it wasn't true, it
- 57:05Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The whole purpose of it was to just
- 57:08Speaker 1: completely destroy these people. So these cartridges are given to
- 57:15Speaker 1: soldiers for the rifles, right, and the carters have to
- 57:18Speaker 1: be greased, so before you load the rifle, you have
- 57:24Speaker 1: to bite the cover of the cartridges. And the rumor
- 57:28Speaker 1: was that these were greased with the fat of cows
- 57:34Speaker 1: and pigs. So obviously, if you're Hindu or Muslim, you
- 57:39Speaker 1: literally can't do that. So they refuse to bite the
- 57:41Speaker 1: thing of the cartridge because you know, you can't do
- 57:46Speaker 1: that because it's against your religion one and two you know,
- 57:51Speaker 1: it's just really fucking disrespectful. Hey, I can't touch this,
- 57:55Speaker 1: you know, No put it in your mouth, what is
- 57:59Speaker 1: wrong with you? Like it was done deliberately to upset
- 58:03Speaker 1: these particular people. So the first person to come forward
- 58:09Speaker 1: is this fellow called Mango Pande. He is just the
- 58:11Speaker 1: first person to protest, and of course they have to
- 58:13Speaker 1: make a show of room. So within two weeks they
- 58:15Speaker 1: hang him. And in me route there are these soldiers
- 58:18Speaker 1: who absolutely refuse to you know, touch the cartridges and
- 58:22Speaker 1: they get put in jail and because of this, like
- 58:26Speaker 1: it was like eighty five of them, because of this
- 58:28Speaker 1: other Indian soldiers they kill the British officer and go
- 58:31Speaker 1: to free you know, the other fellows that are in jail,
- 58:34Speaker 1: and they march to Delhi and they are joined with
- 58:37Speaker 1: more soldiers and more soldiers and they seize Delhi and
- 58:42Speaker 1: declare it part of the Mughal Empire. And it's just
- 58:46Speaker 1: is mad. I mean, the British do recapture Delhi like
- 58:50Speaker 1: within a few months. But the point is they try
- 58:55Speaker 1: to like bring it down and talk about it as
- 58:58Speaker 1: if it's like this tiny little mutiny. But they were
- 59:01Speaker 1: just amassing soldiers. So this uprising happens and it is
- 59:09Speaker 1: actually eighty percent of the East India Company's own Indian troops.
- 59:15Speaker 1: And so not only do they kill British soldiers and officers,
- 59:18Speaker 1: they are killing civilians and they are killing other Indians
- 59:22Speaker 1: who were loyal to the British Crown or the British
- 59:24Speaker 1: East India Company either or it's all the same at
- 59:27Speaker 1: this point to them. And so the East India Company
- 59:31Speaker 1: is so fucking sure of their own just inflated self
- 59:37Speaker 1: worth that they have invented from destroying other nations that
- 59:44Speaker 1: they just killed thousands and thousands of soldiers, and of
- 59:52Speaker 1: course anybody who sympathized with these quote unquote rebels they
- 59:56Speaker 1: also got killed. And at this point the British government,
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: who has just kind of been like actively ignoring shit,
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: it's been looking the other way for I don't know
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: a century or two. At this point it's like, hey,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: let's not do this. And you know, in order to
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: cross a line, like for the for the British government
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: to just be like, oh, you've gone too far, do
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: you know how big a deal that has to be.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: So in eighteen fifty eight, the Crown it abolishes the
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: East India Company, like he doesn't give India a dependence,
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: it you know, stays there and takes control and you know,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: India remains under was it a British rule for what
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: another nearly ninety years, I think it is. But the
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: East India Company, it is disbanded and it is effectively done.
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: It's effectively done. It's it's always play down this whole
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: incident which led to the disbandment of the East India Company.
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: But it's basically the First War of Independence, like it is,
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: and the East India Company it goes lumping away slowly
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: but surely until eighteen seventy four when it's like officially
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: dissolved because it still exists on paper. But after this
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: it's just it is caput, you know. And so eighteen
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: seventy four is the demise, the final nail in the
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: coffin for the East India Company. And so that's the
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: end of this story of this thing I really wanted
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: to talk about and ended up going into a rant
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: about taxation on more than one occasion. But yeah, that's
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: that's the tale. And if you liked my retelling of
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: this horrific piece of history, please feel free to write
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: and review five stars on Apple and Spot. There's an
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: option on both of them to you know, fill out
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: a review and say nice things. Please get five stars
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: because the algorithm doesn't understand anything less, so please do that.
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: Also sidebar, Now that I'm out of this, some dude
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: was like he went out of his way, and I
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: don't know who he was because he sent me like
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: a paragraph after paragraph DM and when you do that,
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: I know from the first like like sentence, like where
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: the tone of this is going to be? And this
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: was a whole will actually post and I was like, no,
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: I don't need to read this, and I just deleted
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: it because it's no, it's not going to do that.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: And so he made a point of after I blocked
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: him because I'm like, I'm not going to deal with this,
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: he made a point of trying to contact me on
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: two other social media platforms and then decided to give
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: me a one star review on the podcast. Like, dude,
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: just like get over it, Like that's a level of
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: that you don't need to be. But anyway, if you
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: want to just prove this dude wrong and prove that
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: I'm not awful, that would be so nice and I'd
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: love you so much, thank you very much. Now, I
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: was going to talk about something at the end of
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: the show. What was it? Because I've been recording four
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: hours and my brain is putting at this point. It's
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: going to be really funny because I was think editing
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: is very interesting because it takes so many hours me
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: to record this and I'm going to be like taking
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: pieces away and I have gone on to so many
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: rants about so many things. It's going to be interesting
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: to see what I've actually left in. But anyway, so
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: my trove a trip. It's been approved to Scotland because
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: it's like a bunch of areas in Scotland that I
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: haven't been to and Edinburgh. I've to Edinburgh, but I
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: haven't been up north since I think the furthest I've
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: been is Sterling. I never really got a chance to
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: go places. And I'm really excited it because it's going
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: to be like May next year and more details are
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: going to come. But there is a link down below
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, put down your interest
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: and when I have more information, I'll give you some
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: more information. I am going to be performing at the
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: dunfana Hey Workhouse in dune Gull for Culture Week at
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: times and details to follow, but that's going to be happening.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: That's been pretty fun and if you are a longtime
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: listener and you want to see me do a live
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: show somewhere, let me know where you're from. Even if
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: you DM me on Instagram, I'll get it. Maybe I
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: should put a poll together, so it's not weird that
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: I'm just collecting people's information. I just feel like, if
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: I was to do a live show, where should I go? Like,
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: where are my options? At least I know where people
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: actually want to see me. There's been a few options,
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: and you know, I really need to organize it well
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: in advance as it turns out. So if you'd like
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: to see me, let me know where I should go.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: And of course it is recommendation time, so for listening,
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: I am going to recommend she done it. It's this
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: podcast by Carolyn Crampton, and she has the most soothing
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: voice I have ever heard of my life. Sometimes I
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: would have to re listen to episodes because during my
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: really bad insomnia phases, the only thing that could put
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: me to sleep was the sound of her voice, because
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: it's so relaxing, and she talks about like the mysteries
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: behind classic detective stories. She talks about the stories behind
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: the fiction, and it's so glorious and it's much up
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: my street. I fucking love it. And the artwork is beautiful.
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: I love it all. So that's for listening. For reading,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: I'm going to suggest Gentlemen, Rogues and Wicked Ladies. A
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: Guide to British Highwaymen and Highway Women by Few and
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: A McDonald. It is. It's just like a little biography
- 1:06:05Speaker 1: book and it's just about like Dick Turpin and Kerry
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Fletcher and things like that, and it's fab I fucking
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: love it. And for watching, if you were not already
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: watching Secret Invasion, I don't know what else to tell you,
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: my friend. It's just it's pulling up my soul. But yeah,
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: go watch it. And now that we have covered that,
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: I am going to bid you good night Ariels or
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: of what is in my Friends, Bye bye,