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Lesbian Bar's "Immunocompromised Disabled Divas" Throw Hands Over Mask Policy · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, we are live. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian. I'm here with Allison,
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  Speaker 1: and this is the fundraiser stream. Sorry for the late start.
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  Speaker 1: It was due to a number of complications on Allison's end,
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  Speaker 1: but here we are. And I know this is weird
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  Speaker 1: that we're doing this on a Saturday, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: the only time we can do it because I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go camping with Lindsay tomorrow, so we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to be around.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so you're not leaving tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We're not leaving tonight. We're just doing all the prep tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We got to like go shopping. Huh?
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  Speaker 2: I was wondering, I was wondering about that because it
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  Speaker 2: was like, so I thought you were leaving on like
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  Speaker 2: Friday and then you're going till Tuesday. And I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot of camping.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. We're, we're, we are not, um, leaving, uh,
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  Speaker 1: until we're leaving tomorrow, like right after church. But, We're not...
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  Speaker 1: It's going to take us four hours to get to
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  Speaker 1: the place. So we're staying there for two nights. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be Sunday night and Monday night. And then
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  Speaker 1: we're going to return on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it looks fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's just.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just adjusting the avatar. Okay. Yeah, that's... So
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  Speaker 2: are you looking forward to camping?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's... I just hope the weather is good.
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  Speaker 1: That's my one concern is that. But like... Lindsay's, you know, I, I,
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  Speaker 1: I promised her we would go camping, um, at some
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  Speaker 1: point ever since we got here. Cause, uh, she used
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  Speaker 1: to do this all the time in, um, uh, in,
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  Speaker 1: in Calgary or Alberta, she would go to the mountains
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  Speaker 1: and backpack and stuff like that. So she really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do it and we just couldn't really get away. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but now we're doing it. So yeah, this is for her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to it, too. It's different. I
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  Speaker 1: don't get to do this ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Camping can be a lot of fun. It's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit humid, though. That's what I find. It's a
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  Speaker 2: different feeling because you're out in the wilderness and there's
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  Speaker 2: humidity in the air. Whereas inside, usually because of climate-controlled stuff,
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  Speaker 2: it's always drier. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, but yeah, I hope you enjoy your camping
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  Speaker 2: trip and have some roast marshmallows or whatever. You're allowed
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  Speaker 2: to do that. Because of your diet, I meant. Not
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  Speaker 2: because of any kind of thing. Yeah. Okay, so, sorry
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  Speaker 2: about the late start. Yeah, it was my fault. We
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  Speaker 2: had a blackout here in Saskatchewan. How do Americans say it? Saskatchewan.
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  Speaker 1: Saskatchewan?
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  Speaker 2: You guys are... Yeah, you know, you say it right.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's my influence.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Most Americans seem to struggle with that word.
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  Speaker 1: Saskatchewan?
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  Speaker 2: This catch you on um uh they they put an
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  Speaker 2: extra vowel in there somewhere but anyway um yeah we
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  Speaker 2: had a blackout last night no idea why according to
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  Speaker 2: sask energy there was just some kind of damage done
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  Speaker 2: maybe it was by a moose um because there was
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  Speaker 2: no storm at all maybe a moose got tangled in
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  Speaker 2: the wires again yeah it was But anyway, that blackout
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to resolve like half an hour from now.
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  Speaker 2: But it ended up resolving an hour and a half.
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  Speaker 2: And then we had to try to get the computer
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  Speaker 2: to reboot. And apparently the computer decided to install new
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  Speaker 2: graphic card drivers that had a conflict with the graphic card. Because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's what you do if you're a computer.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's working fine and you've got to break it. And
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  Speaker 2: then we had to roll back the drivers in order
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  Speaker 2: to play the game. But we persevered. And now we
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  Speaker 2: are here going to do your song requests. Everything seems
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  Speaker 2: to be fine. Everything seems to work. All right. So
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  Speaker 2: we already have three. Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So we can either maybe go for five. Or we could... Well,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Let's see what happens. But anyway, get
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  Speaker 2: those song requests in. Guys, if you don't know what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing now, I see that we've had an influx
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  Speaker 2: of at least new people looking at our streams, if
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  Speaker 2: not subscribing.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, just recently, like, uh, over the last couple weeks, um,
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  Speaker 2: the horizontal streams have been seeing a lot more traffic. So,
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  Speaker 2: now I've jinxed it, maybe. I'll knock on wood. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, there's, uh, there has been a, uh, so
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  Speaker 2: there may be more viewers, maybe not on this stream
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  Speaker 2: because this stream is a bit, bit niche. It's mostly
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  Speaker 2: for our actual, you know, our main audience. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: if you're new here, what we do is this is
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  Speaker 2: the gamified aspect of the fundraiser of the monthly fundraiser.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to take part. If you want to
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  Speaker 2: support the show, if you just like what we're talking about, because, um, Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: at this point in time, I think we're the only
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  Speaker 2: people who talk about the fact that our species is
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  Speaker 2: dying and why. I mean, there are other people who
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  Speaker 2: talk about it, but I'm not sure they've done the
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  Speaker 2: level of research that I have done on it. So,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to support that research and that message,
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  Speaker 2: we should take care of that. Can we have like a...
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if this would be beneficial, but
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  Speaker 2: the effort would be appreciated. Can we have like a UN...
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  Speaker 2: council not a council but one of the committees on
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  Speaker 2: this you know human race fertility is declining to nothing
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  Speaker 2: maybe we could get the maybe and I know the
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  Speaker 2: UN would screw it up but it would be nice
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  Speaker 2: if they had you know the wherewithal you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean if there was the will to actually start
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  Speaker 2: talking about this and not in a oh let's blame
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  Speaker 2: men more what kind of way anyway Well, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to actually continue that conversation, then you can just
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  Speaker 2: go to feedthebadger.com slash support and put a few shekels
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  Speaker 2: in the hat for us. Every bit helps. Guys, $ 5, $ 10.
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  Speaker 2: Really appreciate the small supporters. Really like you guys, so
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  Speaker 2: go and help out. And so once again, feedthebadger.com slash support.
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  Speaker 2: And if you want to take part in the gamified
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  Speaker 2: part of the fundraiser, then go to feedthebadger.com slash justthetip
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  Speaker 2: and send in a song request. But before you find
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  Speaker 2: the song that you want me to play through Beat Saber,
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  Speaker 2: make sure the Beat Saber modding community has modded it
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  Speaker 2: because they are a unique group, very unique, and their
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  Speaker 2: tastes are equally unique. And you may think that your
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  Speaker 2: song would 100% have been a song that someone would
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  Speaker 2: have modded. Not so! So go to besaber.com, make sure
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  Speaker 2: your song request is available, then put it in at feedthebadger.com
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  Speaker 2: slash justthetip. And then if I get through it on
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  Speaker 2: the highest level of difficulty, on your honor, you will
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  Speaker 2: go to feedthebadger.com slash support and put $ 25 in the
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  Speaker 2: hat for myself, Brian, Hannah, and HBR for the month.
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  Speaker 2: I get... If I can get through it without failing
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  Speaker 2: on the highest level of difficulty, or if I... If
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  Speaker 2: I end up in the top 100, that means you
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  Speaker 2: have supplied us with a damnably difficult song, and the
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  Speaker 2: only people who could actually get through it are South
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  Speaker 2: Korean teenagers, teenage boys. Yeah. So I get that Hail Mary.
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  Speaker 2: If I get in the top 100, it counts as
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  Speaker 2: having gone through it. And then on your honor, again,
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  Speaker 2: go to feedthebadger.com slash support and put in $ 25. If
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  Speaker 2: it's a really long song, put in 50. You'll get
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  Speaker 2: me there flailing for like 10 minutes or anything over five,
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  Speaker 2: then 50. So those are the rules. I only do
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  Speaker 2: the long song one because sometimes people request a song
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  Speaker 2: that's 16 freaking minutes. And by the end, I want
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  Speaker 2: to die. But anyway, so those are the rules. Let's see.
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  Speaker 2: So we got three. Is there anything you want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about? No, we got. No, we got. No, we
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  Speaker 2: did not get three more.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I know we need two more, right? How
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  Speaker 1: many do you want to do? Two more, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Five?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, five.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if people get them in quickly, then maybe
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  Speaker 2: we could try for seven.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah. Okay, so, before we start, is there anything,
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  Speaker 2: have you been watching anything interesting? Any news in media, entertainment?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, in news and media? Well, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it's anything that's like fun to talk about, but, like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the only, the only other, the only anime I watch
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  Speaker 1: is back, um, and, uh, um, I, I watched it,
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  Speaker 1: it was, uh, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Steel Ball Run, um,
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  Speaker 1: I wanna say the second episode came out, and I
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  Speaker 1: watched it this morning, and I enjoyed it, I think it's,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's, uh, awesome, um, also... Oh yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: this movie on Amazon. It's old. It's from like 1980.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it's like 1982 or 1983. And
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  Speaker 1: it's called The Sisterhood. And Lindsay and I were watching
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  Speaker 1: it out of curiosity. It's fantastic. hilariously bad. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a B movie, post-apocalyptic fantasy world, a lot of this.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate that they were doing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff in like the seventies and eighties, like, like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like, you know, weird fantasy movies like that.
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  Speaker 1: Just like really weird. And this one is like a
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  Speaker 1: feminist power fantasy. We didn't finish it, but I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure it's going to be awful. And it's about after
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  Speaker 1: a world-shattering war, and people are living in villages, and
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  Speaker 1: there are raiders, so it's got some Mad Max stuff
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  Speaker 1: in it, but it's also got some Red Sonja, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what's the, is it the She or Lady
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  Speaker 1: Hawk type elements? It's like that, right? And there are
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  Speaker 1: these women called the Sisterhood. That's all, that's about as
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  Speaker 1: creative as it gets. And they have, like, magic powers.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, it's just, I don't know. It's funny. It's trite.
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  Speaker 1: But I do think it's a feminist power fantasy movie.
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  Speaker 1: And it makes me think that a lot of this
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  Speaker 1: stuff you know, that we're dealing with is, it's all
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  Speaker 1: like weird, like wish fulfillment stuff that, that it's just
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  Speaker 1: not based in reality. Um, but it's, it's, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like it, some people take some kind of like satisfaction
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  Speaker 1: out of it. So it's, uh, um, great endorse says
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  Speaker 1: I have a 20 minute song I could request, but
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  Speaker 1: that would be for next time. Perhaps it's a combo
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  Speaker 1: of rush by the way. So no extreme stuff. Are
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  Speaker 1: you talking about 2112? That's a Rush song that's 21
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  Speaker 1: minutes and 12 seconds long. Diva Holma was also a
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  Speaker 1: feminist power fantasy. Yeah, I don't know. The Sisterhood. Let
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  Speaker 1: me see if I can find it because it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to Jew, but 20 minutes is going to
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  Speaker 2: be more than 50 bucks, friend.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I should make that exponential, like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what, whatever, whatever you'd want to put through
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  Speaker 2: for that. But that's, that sounds like it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a marathon. That'll be very challenging. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it today. It's just, I will only be
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  Speaker 2: able to do five songs.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I would do it at the end.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's four songs right there.
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  Speaker 2: That, that one. Yeah, I would actually say that at
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  Speaker 2: that point, if you're getting me to do 20 minutes,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I should start charging more for after 10 minutes. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, it'll be up to you
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  Speaker 2: what you want to put in. I'm just saying, that
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  Speaker 2: is an ask. Even at a lower speed, to wave
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  Speaker 2: your arms nonstop for 20 minutes? Whew! Okay, but anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I could try it today. It would just have to
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  Speaker 2: be at the end. But yeah, get those song requests in, guys. Feedthebadger.com
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  Speaker 2: slash just the tip. The 80s was a great decade
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  Speaker 2: for bizarre niche fantasy films.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Most of which were bad. But still, even
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  Speaker 1: the bad ones can be fun to watch. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching it. To just laugh at it. Because I
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  Speaker 1: watched a couple of others, like Deathstalker and Deathstalker 2 and...
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  Speaker 1: the Brigitte Nielsen Red Sonja movie. They made a Red
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  Speaker 1: Sonja recently, but it was awful from everything I heard.
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  Speaker 1: They can't get out of that frame of seeing everything
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  Speaker 1: from the past as bad, so they have to shame the...
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  Speaker 1: Because Red Sonja is where a lot of people get
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  Speaker 1: the chainmail bikini from, even though I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: was unique to that at all. I just think that's
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  Speaker 1: what people associate it with. So they were like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we got to take a stab at the chainmail bikini thing.
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  Speaker 1: And they put a whole scene in the remake or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: the more recent adaptation, where she's offered a chainmail bikini
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  Speaker 1: and she scoffs at it or something. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's going to watch this. You guys are not having fun.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, Graydon Doerr says, I think it would only
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  Speaker 1: be fair to request it for a next stream so
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  Speaker 1: that you could prepare. Anyway, the sisterhood is a 1988.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot prepare for a 20-minute song. You can only
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  Speaker 2: do it. And the other thing is next stream will
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  Speaker 2: be next month. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Okay, guys, get
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  Speaker 2: those song requests in. We still need two. How are
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  Speaker 2: we doing on, like, people? I mean, I know this
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  Speaker 2: is a different day than we usually do it, so
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  Speaker 2: maybe everybody's like, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Not a ton. It's, uh, we got, uh, well, on Rumble, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's alright. We got, like, 26 people watching. Okay. They're
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  Speaker 1: probably figuring out that this is live, but... I think
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  Speaker 1: on the weekends there tends to be fewer people anyways, so.
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  Speaker 2: And on the vertical?
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  Speaker 1: That's both combined. The vertical, the Rumble is 13, the
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  Speaker 1: vertical is 11. Although it's gotten 98 views already, so.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that there are people who are passing through I
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  Speaker 2: wonder if the special chat is being special like is
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  Speaker 2: there anything in there like interesting in the special chat.
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  Speaker 1: Uh still Mazza says e-girl and her boyfriend bodyguard boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: What yeah not no no e-girl.
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  Speaker 1: Well because of the maybe it's because of the badger
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  Speaker 1: chan thing or or they're just baiting you and you
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  Speaker 1: know you could just take the bait so.
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  Speaker 2: Um I don't know how to take this bait.
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  Speaker 1: That was earlier.
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  Speaker 2: That's very flattering that you think I could possibly be
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  Speaker 2: an e-girl.
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  Speaker 1: Very flattering. Yeah, you must be new here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very new.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, anyway. So, yeah, the sisterhood is... In the year 2021,
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  Speaker 1: women have been enslaved by men with their only hope
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  Speaker 1: for freedom lying in the hands of a nomadic band
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  Speaker 1: of maiden warriors.
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  Speaker 2: Enslaved by men.
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  Speaker 1: In the far distant future of 2021. You know what's
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  Speaker 1: funny is.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the people who write these things, they
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  Speaker 1: try to actually predict what the world might be like.
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  Speaker 1: And there was all this fear-mongering around, you know, nuclear
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  Speaker 1: holocaust ever since the Cold War started. And so this movie,
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  Speaker 1: and of course they blame, like feminists blame men for
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear holocaust that hasn't quite happened yet, but they're
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure it's going to, and when it does, it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be men's fault. Of course. Yeah, but it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't happened, and apparently men are just... They've been enslaved
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  Speaker 1: by women. And there's a nomadic band of maiden warriors,
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  Speaker 1: Ali and Vera. They tap Maria, these are their names,
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  Speaker 1: because this is like a fantasy world or something, and
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  Speaker 1: her hawk to help them. So, like, they have magic powers. Like,
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  Speaker 1: one of them, I think, can, like, move things with
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  Speaker 1: her mind, and another one can talk to animals, and
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  Speaker 1: another one can heal. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they all, because I haven't finished
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  Speaker 1: the movie, I don't know if it's, like, unique to
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  Speaker 1: each one or if they can do all those things
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  Speaker 1: and more. But, yeah, it's hilariously bad. Like, and when
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  Speaker 1: I was watching it with Lindsay, I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if men wanted to enslave women, they'd just be enslaved, right? Like,
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to do anything about it. But
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to. Like, that's just the truth of it. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a, well, it's, it's also the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you'd have to enslave your mom, right?
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  Speaker 1: That's a, yeah, I know. I, and your sisters and like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. For sure.
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  Speaker 2: The physical capability that the will is, I don't think there,
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  Speaker 2: which is really, really why, you know, the feminist framework
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  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. But anyway, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we're still at three. Should I just do them?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I do have to be done here
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  Speaker 1: by 2.30 at the absolute latest. And I'd rather it
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: be like 2 o'clock. Well, I could do another.
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  Speaker 2: Call-out, guys. Two more. Two more songs. Two more. Go
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  Speaker 2: rack your brains. Get two more songs. So I can
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  Speaker 2: just blaze through them. I could just set aside the
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  Speaker 2: time that I have to spell and deal with that.
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  Speaker 2: As opposed to all at once. well i guess maybe
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  Speaker 2: maybe uh yeah spelling is not my my strong suit
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  Speaker 2: yeah but um yeah two more songs guys and also
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: get those pledges into the the feed feed the badger.com
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: support too so that we can continue to do this
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: i gotta convince you guys that you know this this
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: still matters so that we can do another month a
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: little nervous about this month So any go go to
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: feed the badger.com slash support. If you don't want us
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to disappear. Honestly, I don't know what would happen then.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Like I don't mean to like toot my own horn
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: but I think they're like again I think the research
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that I'm doing maybe the only research being done in
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: this way, because the thing is that nobody wants to
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: talk about how bad it's gotten. And I understand that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: because it's really depressing. So everybody just deflects onto blaming
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: men or blaming other things. Nobody's willing to say, no,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: this is a problem with women. Like, this is serious,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: and if we don't fix it, we're done for. Because
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: there's no, like, if our society has it, there's no
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: reason why it can infect and hasn't infected every society
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: on the planet. And the problem is you can't say, oh, well,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the Amish will, or the Hasidic Jews will take over
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the earth, or the religious communities, because those communities also
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: rely on an advanced civilization that isn't reproducing itself. Because
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the Amish aren't self-sufficient. And the Hasidic Jews need welfare
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: in many cases to maintain their fertility. So everything is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: reliant on this advanced system that isn't reproducing itself. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: that's a scary thought, but we've got to actually deal
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: with it. And we've got to stop blaming men and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: start looking at why women are doing this. Because that's
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the only place where a solution is going to happen.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And it is terrifying to me to think that The
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: stuff that I'm seeing will just have to disappear and
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: will just have to go off that cliff without even knowing,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: without even a chance of changing course. So anyway, if
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: that sounds pretty terrifying to you, please support the initiative
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: to get people to care about the fact that we're
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: dying at feedthebadger.com slash justthetip. That's really depressing. Plus, you know,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: send in songs. I'll flail. It'll be amusing. We can
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: have a laugh. Um, anyway, feed the badger.com slash just
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the tip for those songs. Let's see if that's anybody
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: has managed to get anything through. Nope. All right. That's depressing. Okay. Um, I, I,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: so we talked about the sisterhood. I'm trying to think
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: if there's anything that I've watched.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I do have a couple of rumble rants. I'm going
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to read out and, uh, sure. All right. So Xerings
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: gave us $ 2 and said, Sunday came quick. He's referring
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to the fact that we're doing this on Saturday. And
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: then NovaFan gives us a dollar and says, Your Jewish friend,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: when you ask someone to do the Lord's Prayer, Jew it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: What do you do with day-old meat? Stew it. Your
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: first day as a pilot? Flew it. All right, thank
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: you for that. What the hell? Fucking jokes. Well....
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: If I'm laughing, they probably were pretty freaking dumb.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed them.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I also have some, uh, some, I guess you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: could say news for a potential guest I'm working on
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: getting on here. Uh, yeah. So his, his name is, um, Paul,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Philip Parrish. And he, he was, um, running for,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I think he ran as like Lieutenant Governor in Minnesota. Uh,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: He didn't win, but he got a nice chunk of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the votes. And the reason why I'm bringing him up
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: is that he is one of almost unheard of in
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: terms of very few politicians that actually know about and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: are trying to address men's issues of things like father's
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: rights and... He's also written extensively criticizing the Duluth model,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and he wants to eliminate it. So, I mean, I
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: don't know. That's like a Herculean, no, Sisyphean task that
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: he's undertaking. But he does seem like one person that
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is trying to do a good thing. So I'm working
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on trying to get him on the show to talk
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: about it. So there's that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Philip Parrish.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: That'd be good. That'd be good to get, uh, to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: encourage that, to encourage some movement towards realizing what the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: problem is and that we can't keep blaming men. I mean,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: surely Brian, surely blaming men will work this time.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think he's doing that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Um, no, no. And that's what I mean. That's what
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I mean. Sort of countering that.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I understand.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Somebody who's, who's, who's moving away from that as the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: solution to literally, but fuck everything. Have we tried blaming men?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Have we tried blaming men for being blamed? Surely that
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: will solve the issue of blaming men. Have we put
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: some more blaming men on that? Have we considered blaming men?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Have we gone through the process of assembling the Blame
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Men Committee? And have we sufficiently determined how much blame
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: men have had for this item? Goddamn. And the hilarious
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: thing is that people will come up and say, we
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: blame women. We blame women too much. It's like you
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: live in an alternate reality sometimes.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Where is this font of blaming women? I wish to
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: wash myself in its purifying waters. Go find it. Where's
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the map? fine locate on the doll where someone blamed
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: women not seeing it and i think we need to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: do a hell of a lot more of it yeah
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: all right okay so i think we're still at three
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: songs guys get those song requests in two more you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: do it so i stop having to say this um
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm doing a return. Let's see.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Still at three.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to repeat the words. Get those song
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: requests in for the next 15 minutes until you guys do.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: All right. This could be very entertaining. Get the song
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: requests in. I have an article. Oh, you do? Yes.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I spared you all.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It's a funny story. Ooh, okay. I don't know. This
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: might help. Alright, so the article was on the Boston Globe,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think it is. Let's double check it because I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: can't remember. Yeah, I think it's the Boston Globe. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it is a very funny story if you are a
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: sane person. Okay, let me just read through the article.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I hope your venue gets firebombed. After a COVID-cautious lesbian
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: bar relaxed its mask mandates... All hell broke loose. The
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: last ditch bar in Greenfield wanted to build community. They
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: got a firestorm instead. Now, I know what you're thinking.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Is this an old article since it references COVID-19? No,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: this is from September 22nd of 2026. This is from
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: just a few days ago. So, all right, just like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: check this out. The August 31st Instagram post from Last
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Ditch Bar, an arts venue, a lesbian bar in Greenfield.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Get it? It's a lesbian bar called The Last Ditch. Oh, God.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Was upbeat, teasing a new DJ lineup and a volunteer meetup,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: but partway down the rainbow-hued post labeled updates was a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: sentence that would splinter the queer community in this small
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Pioneer Valley city and beyond. It is with love we
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: inform our immunocompromised disabled divas we will be opening Saturday
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: nights as mask optional, wrote Last Ditch. Previously, patrons were
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: required to wear a well-fitted KN95 mask or better at
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: all times. The new policy was not received with love. So,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: let me... There's a little bit of a... I think
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they're going to go into the backstory for this because
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I think they're setting things up and they're going to explain.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Wait, now?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was just saying. Yes.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Yes. What?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Were you not listening to the backstory?
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: What? No, I....
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: In Boston, there was a lesbian bar that was opened
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: called The Last Ditch. And it is specifically a bar
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that is COVID-conscious. Okay? So, everyone who goes to the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: bar is supposed to wear a mask. Don't ask me
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: how they drink their drinks at the bar. I have
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: no idea. But... They recently made a post where they
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: basically said that it is with love we inform our
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: immunocompromised disabled divas that we will be opening Saturday nights
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: as mask optional, according to Last Ditch. So they're going
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to basically make Saturday nights mask optional. Previously, patrons were
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: required to wear a well-fitted KN95 mask or better at
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: all times. The new policy was not received with love.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Just say you're being complicit in mass disabling events. and
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: get it over with, wrote one commenter. People like you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and convenience, posted another.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: What? Is this Babylon B?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: No, this is real. This is real. This really happened.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: This is not a joke. This is not a parody
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: at all. They opened up.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Women are serious people.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: No, this is, like, this is, like, the most.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Well, lesbians, apparently.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Disabled lesbians, yes. Immunocompromised.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Like, if you're immunocompromised, what are you doing in a
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: freaking bar?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, who knows? I don't even know what immunocompromised means. Like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: in this.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I know, I know what it means technically,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that that's what it means in
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: this context because it's not, it's, I don't think that,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: how do I put this? It's not like you have
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a disease that has like, you know, compromise your immune
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: system like HIV. It's, it's more like, oh, I get
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: sick easy. Therefore I'm immunocompromised or I think I am
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: because I'm like really overweight and I live unhealthy lifestyle
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: or something. Right. Um, Cause those things could contribute to, Oh,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I smoke a lot. I don't know what, whatever it is. Uh,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: but anyway, so, uh, people like you. Yeah, go ahead.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: How are they supposed to, how are you supposed to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: create a society? If it's a race to who can
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: be the weakest and most accommodated, like if everybody's accommodating is, is,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: is racing to be accommodated. Who does the accommodating? Oh, what,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: what am I talking about? Every time somebody doesn't get accommodated,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: you blame men.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: What am I talking about? It's men.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: This is the thing about this article is I don't
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: think there are any men involved in the story at all.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Actually, that is a question. It's like a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: question of how many angels dance in the head of
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: a pin. Yeah. Who do you blame in a lesbian
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: separatist commune bar? Who do you blame?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: It would be great just to go there with like
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: some field glasses and a notepad and some khakis and
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: just do some field observation. Yeah. Of the primates as
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: they discuss who to blame when there are no men
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: in the vicinity.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Alright.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Alright.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: So, let me get back to the article. So these
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: are just posts that were written about their announcement, like
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: below the announcement. People like you kill disabled people in
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the name of your own leisure and convenience, posted another.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I hope your venue gets firebombed for robbing my fellow
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: immunocompromised people of their Saturday plans just to scrape extra
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: revenue from ableists, wrote a third. So not being disabled
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and wanting to go to a bar makes you an ableist.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: And of course, we're talking about lesbians here. The able-bodied,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: COVID-free lesbians are worse than the immunocompromised disabled lesbians, obviously.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine a society constructed of people like this?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It's the sisterhood. They have magic powers. No, I mean,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I can. I just wouldn't want to live that like that.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: You know what would happen?
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: In reality. In reality. They talk about the sisterhood in 2021.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Men will enslave women. You know what actually would happen?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Women would run off into the wilderness and... having a
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: complete fucking disaster in which probably there'll be some form
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: of child slaughter and cannibalism. And then the defectors from
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the authoritarian cannibalist cystopia will, or cystertopia, will go and
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: throw themselves and say, men, would you please enslave us?
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Because they would get a better deal as the slaves
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of men. That's more likely what would actually happen. yeah
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: because think about look at this like look at the
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: backbiting here this is the compassionate community and all it
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: can do is spew bile yep okay based on it
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: but you know it's because they're spewing bile upwards that's
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: what makes it justified it's no longer hatred it's civic duty.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Ugh.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: This is just a race to the bottom. It is
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: behavior that destroys its own basis, its own foundation.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Continue.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: All right. The thread that I was reading from grew
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to 442 comments, some supportive, but many furious. The people
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: running the bar were accused of being ableist, eugenicist even,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: for relaxing their signature policy in the face of what
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: commenters consider an ongoing pandemic. Do you know why they
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: did that? Do you know why they relaxed their rules
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: for Saturday nights? Because they weren't making any money because
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: nobody was going to the bar because of the COVID restrictions.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: So like they're the overhead for running any place like
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that is extremely tight. So if people are not showing
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: up because they're like, I'm not wearing a mask for that.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Like you've all right. Think about it like this. And
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I haven't finished the article. I'm going to go back
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to it. You open up a bar. If you open
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: up a bar that is for anybody that, then you
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: basically have the most amount of people, except for people
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: under the age of whatever the drinking age is where
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you are, right? So you exclude a chunk of people,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: but not that many. You have like a relatively large
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and broad umbrella. And you also have to consider that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you're competing with other bars in the area. This is
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: just if we're opening a bar. Now let's say you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: open a bar, but you're like, this is a gay bar.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: So you have already cut, and not that straight people
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: couldn't go, but... They're not going to be that many
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: straight people that go to the bar. So you have
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a gay bar, then your customer base is smaller. If
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you make it a lesbian bar, the customer base gets
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: even smaller. If you make it a lesbian bar for
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: COVID-conscious people, then you're going to have a really small...
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: customer base. So you're not making that much money. So
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: what you got to do is you got to figure
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: out ways to get people to come to the bar without,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: cause you know, it was the passion project of one
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: of these, um, I think there were three women that
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: opened up this business and I think it was at
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: least one of their idea to do that. So they
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: did that, but then they realized they weren't making any
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: money on it. So they were like, well, we got
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: to do something so we can make some money. I mean,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you just have to, otherwise you can't have a business.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: So they said let's relax the rules for one day
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of the week and they chose Saturday because then it
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: makes sense because if you do it on a Saturday,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you're more likely to have a lot of business even
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: if you're just relaxing it for the one day so
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: you can potentially make up for whatever money you lose.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: But of course now they've pissed off the base, whatever
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: that is. So anyway, I'm just explaining.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Why– immunocompromised lesbian separatists there are two immunocompromised oh no
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: wait I guess it's maybe like 20 immunocompromised lesbian separatists.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: However many there.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Are immunocompromised disabled lesbian separatists of color and they've discovered
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: that they can't actually run a business only catering to
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: one small group of people.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was a disastrous idea to do this.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: You notice how this business is defined by what it excludes.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And yet they probably say, Oh, we're very compassionate. How
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: do you define yourself in exclusionary terms and then say, Oh,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: we're very diverse and compassionate. Right. How do you do that?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: How does that work?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: You say one thing, but do something else. I don't know.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's lying. I guess that's a neurotypical thing that
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: makes sense to neurotypicals.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Because it just sounds like lying to me.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of what it is. I mean, like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: it's lying about... Well, I guess it's easy to say
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you believe something than actually, like, live that. So you
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: could call it hypocrisy. I don't know. But... And maybe
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: excluding people is compassion to the people that you're not excluding.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: There's a way to interpret that. So anyway, the thread
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: grew to 442 comments, some supportive, but many furious. The
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: people running the bar were accused of being ableist, eugenicist even,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: for relaxing their signature policy in the face of what
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: commenters consider an ongoing pandemic. Two days later, Last Ditch
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: posted an apology. Big mistake. Quote, we are sorry for
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: our passive and dismissive tone of our change to the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: norms and schedule impacting the most intersectional of us. End quote.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Management wrote on Instagram. Then they continued, quote, we understand.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: They've rediscovered a caste system.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, continue.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: We understand everyone faces different intersections and we are always
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: working to consider all needs fully.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Except that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Instead of diffusing the situation, the apology seemed to make
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: things worse. Of course it did.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the bucket of chum and shark-filled waters. Oh,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: that seems to have made it worse. I'm just curious
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: if the sharks started eating each other.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Was there any competitions over who's the most intersectional?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Yep. Instead of diffusing the situation, the apology seemed to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: make things worse. The bar had aired. It posted an
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Instagram card without providing alt text for the visually impaired.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: This set off a fresh round of accusations of ableism.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: This is not an accessible post, wrote one user. It
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: indicates the lack of care or interest in disability intersectionality. Quaint,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: crunchy Greenfield, which is, that's where it is. It's Greenfield, Massachusetts.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Population 17,000. So we're looking at a very small town.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: On top of that, isn't a bad place for a
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: COVID-cautious lesbian bar in 2026, all things considered. Rainbow flags, deck, store, windows, downtown.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: On a recent weekend, a community theater was advertising a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: workshop for mass performers. down the street from a bookstore
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: with a medical masks required sign in the window. Men
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in ponytails and N95s were ordering hibiscus tea from the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: coffee shop off the main square. Greenville is close both
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: physically and spiritually to Northampton, sometimes referred to as Lesbianville, USA.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: In the Pioneer Valley... Every bar is a lesbian bar,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: a friend who lives there told me. So I guess
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: it's like a pretty gay area. Lots of lesbian bars.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Which makes it even worse that you're trying to set
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: up something that has, again, a small audience. So you
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: can stay open. Now you have to compete with a
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: bunch of other lesbian bars that may not have mask mandates. Nevertheless,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Last Ditch, which opened last year as a bar for dykes,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: this is their thing that they wrote. It's for dykes, transsexuals,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: gender freaks, workers, and their friends. Workers? He's struggling. I
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like how they throw that in there. Workers. Three housemates
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: in their mid-twenties opened it together, hoping to fill the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: void left by two local queer bars that had shuttered.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: One of the trio, Asa Rosario, a drag performer who uses.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait. Could you send me a link to this
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: so I can speculate on it? But also, if they're
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: already closing queer bars... Okay. So you're part of a community,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: and the more general bars, I assume... Have closed.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Are closing down. So you look at that and you say,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: how can I restrict my customer base even further? Is
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: that really... a winning strategy here.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Like, you look at that, it's like, oh, okay, well, um,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: general queer bars are closing. I assume that they were
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: either lesbian or gay because they don't tend to come together.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: The lesbian and gay communities do not get along. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: don't know if people know that. Um, and it's not
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the gay men's fault, by the way. Uh, but anyway, the, uh,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: So you have these bars who... To be honest, they
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: serve a more diverse queer community, and they're shutting down.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: And what you take from that is, let's restrict it further.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: How does this even... We're operating... How long has this
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: business been in operation? Is there any information on that?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I gotta read more of the.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: More of the comment. Or more of the article. Alright,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: let's keep going. They opened it together. The three were
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: intentional about the kind of values they wanted to bring
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: to the Divy basement bar, which they decorated with discoveries
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: from Facebook Marketplace and pieces from local artists. No one
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: would be turned away from the space for lack of funds.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Poor and unhoused people are welcome in the space. The
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: police were not. So this is like, again, they're, oh
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: my God, so much virtue signaling. So they basically made it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm reading this. I'm sorry, I'm going back.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, workers.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Because you said workers. Why do they just have workers
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: in there? Wouldn't workers be ableist because they can work?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: No, they mean proletariat. They just can't spell it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they hate the proletariat.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Well, no, they said workers. They are referring to the proletariat.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Why else would they say that? Who doesn't have a job?
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: Who isn't a worker?
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I know, I know.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, but what I'm saying is that
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: functionally these people do not like the individuals who are
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: actually workers.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Because almost all of them have... Are men. Are men.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Let's face it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Right, well, yeah, that's what's fun.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Of the trio, Asa Rosario, a drag performer who uses it,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: its pronouns, envisioned a venue where it and its... Okay.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: How are... What's drag for somebody who doesn't identify as
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: a gender? How does that work?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: No idea. I don't know.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Seriously, like, drag is usually dressing as the opposite sex.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: What is the opposite sex? Drag is not... Drag is
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: not what it used to be. Drag used to be,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it was just like a kind of performance that was
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: fun and funny and a little cheeky. And it had
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with identity or politics. But now it is.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Now it's all that. It's basically, it's just trans under
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: another label. And I know that doesn't make sense to people,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: but that's what it's become. It's an identity now. So,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: hence the pronouns.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the original drag queens think of that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Probably pretty obnoxious. Oh, yeah. But I'm just trying to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: figure out, if you are not a sex, are you
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: being drag of yourself?
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: No idea. I'd have to see what he looks like.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's some kind of Muppet.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: It looks like it.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, it.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: It.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: It. yes what it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Looks like so if it um does it does it
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: dress and drag is as a being that's considered sentient
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: like like if it if it refers to itself as
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: it does it dress and drag as a human is
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: that drag for it I'm just curious. I want to
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: know the logistics because I am me. I just want
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: to figure that out. That just seems a little bit baffling.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: All right, keep going.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I think they like the idea that they baffle people. Okay,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: so the three were intentional about the kind of values
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: they wanted to bring to the Divy Basement Bar, which
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: they decorated with discoveries from Facebook Marketplace and pieces from
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: local artists. No one would be turned away from the
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: space for lack of funds. The poor and unhoused people
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: are welcome in the space. The police were not. Because ACAB.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Our mission is to create systems of care and action
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and aid, says Jackie Mattelian, one of the founders. When
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it first opened, the last ditch did fairly well. Customers
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: fondly remember a raucous opening night with a clothed simulation
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: of a lesbian sex act. Great. Masks in place on
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the dance floor. But over time, foot traffic to the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: bar slowed. More and more visitors said they didn't have
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the cover fee.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: The bar let them in anyways. Yeah, oh, so people
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: would come to the door and say, I can't afford
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the cover, and they'd let them in because, again, they
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: were trying to be as open as possible and never
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: exclude anyone, apparently, or at least anyone who wanted to
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: go there. So more and more visitors said they didn't
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: have the cover fee. The bar let them in anyways.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: The owner fell behind on bills and couldn't pay themselves
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: or the people who worked there. So after consulting with
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the Massachusetts LGBT Chamber of Commerce, they came up with
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: a plan to bend one of their rules and hopefully
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: attract more customers. But by the time of last ditches... Oh, sorry,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait. This is a rule from the LGBTQ
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: The Massachusetts chapter of that, yes. Yes.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Our society has leprosy.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: But by the time of Last Ditch's monthly community meeting
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: on September 11th, only one of the original founders, Mattelian,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: is still involved. The two others stepped back from the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: daily operation months before, Mattelian says, citing various pressures and
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: health issues. One had enrolled in clown school. So, three
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: lesbians have this idea. They get it started. Then two
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: of them leave. One of them goes to clown college
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and they just leave this one girl who, from what
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I remember, it wasn't even her idea. Like this wasn't
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: even her passion project. She just wanted to help. And
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: she was stuck holding the bag, whatever's left of it. What?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I said she's stuck holding the bag.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Um, There are some 10 people seated in a
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: circle on the dance floor, all wearing masks, Mattelian, a
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: handful of volunteers, some bar patrons, and two designated mediators
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: who will facilitate conversations between parties who disagree. Another 10
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to 15 people join the meeting via Zoom. The plan
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is to go clockwise, sharing views on the masking decision
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and the financial future of the bar. Each person has
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: two minutes to speak. It begins with a calming breath exercise.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I think this is just like a really... interesting microcosm
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of our world right now. Almost immediately, the proceedings are derailed,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: of course. One of Last Ditch's most vocal critics, the
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: head of another queer COVID-conscious collective in Western Massachusetts, a
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: performer and artist who goes by Soey Noir, has been
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: posting complaints about Last Ditch for days. Now, Noir joins
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the meeting on Zoom. He and other critics begin to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: flood the Zoom chat with irate messages, which are dutifully
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: read aloud to the group. When it comes time for
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: one of the mediators, a licensed therapist, to speak, she
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: takes a conciliatory tone. Okay? I love that you're here online,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: she says, but these platforms alienate us from each other.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about social media. She asks whether participants can
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: try to remove themselves from places of righteousness. I would
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: love to get up to a place where we all
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: know each other's face, where we all know each other's name,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: she continues. It's messed up that the mediator is dismissing
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: those attending virtually. That's not accessibility, someone responds in the chat.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are calling for an acknowledgement of
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: harm and I'm hearing a white therapist centering the feelings
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: of a majority white and white adjacent staff, writes Noir,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: who is black with a capital B. Moreover, the Zoom
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: attendees speculate that the mediator's license status makes her a
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: mandated reporter, an agent of the state, akin to the police.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: One person going by Moss asks if the mediator could
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: have them hospitalized against their will, adding that her presence
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: is quote, wildly unsafe, end quote. It's an absolute disaster.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: All of the intersections. Sean Mao gives us a dollar
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and says, what?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: No, go ahead and respond to the thing.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Sean Mao gives a dollar super chat, a rumble rant
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and says, FYI, Portland does have a famous clown college.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I believe that. All right, go on.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, these people think that
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: they can run a society without men. They're so delusional,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: they don't even realize that they can't.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I know this sounds crazy, but this is true.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: It's a true story. Go ahead, Allison.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: They literally need the cognitive modality that actually says, but
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: what about the thing?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yes. I agree.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: How do we get it done?
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: There's not enough autistic women to support a femtopia. I'm sorry. Uh, yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: there's just not. And, um, so you're going to have to,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: you're stuck with men because men will eventually say, well,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: how do you fix the roof? How do you get
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: customers through the door? How do you charge the customers?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: How do you make sure you can pay your bills?
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: How do you do that while restricting your customer base
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: in a market that's already failing? How do you do that? How,
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: how do you make this work? How do you live
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: up to an external standard? How are we, we need
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: a plan. This is what men say. These women are
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: living on the fumes of, but this is the right thing.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: We're on the right side of history. Capitalism is wrong.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Because capitalism forces us to actually get people to care
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: about our initiative and get behind it. Well, yeah. Maybe
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: it shouldn't exist if you can't get a big enough
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: customer base. And you're watching what happens when you appeal
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: to people who fetishize their own inability. What do they do?
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: They use their inability as a club or pretend inability
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: because how many of these people are genuinely immunocompromised? I'm
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: pretty sure genuinely immunocompromised people are not in this argument.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, people who are going to use their acquired
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: disabilities as a bludgeon to exclude you For not having
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: accommodated them. This is a game that the only end
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: to this game is two people in a smoking crater
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: each trying to shove each other out of it. Okay.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: And that's the customer base that they cultivated. Alright, let's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: finish this.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's long.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the story gets crazier. When Mattelian's turn comes to speak,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: it does. When Mattelian, this is the woman that's the
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: only original founder that still works there, that didn't go
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to clown college. When Mattelian's turn comes to speak, she
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: begins haltingly. She had never envisioned running last ditch alone. Quote,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: it was not my passion project, she says. My main
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: goal was to support Sage and Asa, the other two founders.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Her voice cracks. I never really wanted to do this,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Mattelian says, beginning to cry under her mask. I don't
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: think I'm doing a very good job. Mattelian tells the
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: group her credit score is trashed. For six months she
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: lived in her truck because she was pouring money into
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the bar. She is working four different jobs. She is
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: responsible for paying off the $ 50, 000 loan the three took
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: out to launch the business. The online critics... Oh, wow. Yes, yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Her life is cooked for doing this. Yeah.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: To launch the business? I can't even believe they're managing
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: to run it on.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: $ 50, 000.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that it's falling apart, probably. Well, yeah. Yeah. So,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the online critics, though, are unmoved. These are her customers.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: You chose to use your time to spill tears and
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: center your feelings, Noir posts in the chat. This is
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: incredibly racist and deflecting behavior. Oh, my God. Eventually, after
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: three and a half hours of discussion, the meeting wraps up.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Noir has more to say, but when someone suggests he
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: come to the next community meeting, he refuses. So noir
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: is described as a he, but I think it's a
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: trans man, so you know. There's a lot of emotional
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and physical labor that goes into this. So for you
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: as a white person that asks for me to stay
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: for another meeting for free, he says is, quote, incredibly
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: disingenuous and racist. I'm not doing that, end quote. Then
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I think....
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: This is entirely relational web thinking. And the one victim
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: in all of this, Mattelian, who's stuck with a $ 50, 000 loan.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: So she put her skin in the game. And she's
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: being shit on by the people who did benefit from
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: her taking the risks. Yeah. That sounds fucking believable. And
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: of course, in an operative modality, this would be unheard of.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: She is the one with the skin in the game.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: She is the one that makes the rules. She's got
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: to pay this back for this dumb bugger, Noir, with
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: his pretentious name. And yet what's happening is... How do
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: you do anything for a community like this if it
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: descends into... backbiting relational web posturing and a complete lack
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: of credit for the person who's doing the work and
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: taking the risks like do you see that like how
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: does anybody do the work take the risks in this
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: community because instantly they're going to be labeled as ableist
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: to some degree right or part of the capitalist cis.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Pet some general is to phobic.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Some generalistophobic part of the capitalist heteropatriarchy. A male hegemonic
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: brain thinker. She's a woman, but she's got the male
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: hegemony shoved in her head somehow. How do you do
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: anything with these people? And again, this is an object.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: What this is, is estrogen poisoning. I'm going to come
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: out and say it. I don't know if there really
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: is testosterone poisoning. I think there is estrogen poisoning, though,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: because it leads to this. What does testosterone poisoning lead to? Really,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: think about it.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, they say family annihilation.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: More productivity.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I don't buy it.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: More productivity, more status seeking, more what is the thing
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: that we need to get done. Maybe more sexual drive
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: is possibly the only negative. And no, it doesn't lead
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: to more aggression unless it's converted into estrogen in the brain. No,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to make the argument that there
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: is estrogen poisoning but no testosterone poisoning and this is it.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: This is estrogen poisoning. This is trying to extract from
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: other people using your incapability, your weakness, your frailty, your victimhood.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: And how does anybody create a community with that kind
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: of a headwind? that they're constantly fighting against people who
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: are trying to extract from them using their inability like
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I don't even think the communists would tolerate this shit
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: this would be gulag behavior to the gulag you go
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: you don't want to farm your turnips Noir to the gulag.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: This is... This newfangled communism is making me want some
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: old school communism.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Not that I'm communist!
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: No, no, I know you're not. I don't know. I know.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Alright, so let me... Let's get back to the story.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Because it gets better... or worse, depending on how you
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: look at it. Okay.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: It gets better. Okay.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Then I think, unfortunately, this meeting has failed you, replies
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: a facilitator, and I'm sorry. The in-person participants file up
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the metal stairs past the native plant garden and out
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: to their cars. Little has been resolved. Last Ditch's landlord
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: wants $ 3, 900 in back rent by Monday. Noir spends the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: hours after the meeting posting furious Instagram stories about Mattelian
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and Last Ditch. Mattelian, who uses she, they pronouns, has
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: been shedding white they, them tears, he writes. The bar
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: was not, quote, a safe environment nor interested in revolutionary praxis.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: End quote. I reach Noir, who identifies as gender expansive
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: lesbian and uses he, him pronouns. See, I knew it.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: gender expansive lesbian what's that what it's a gender expansive
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: i gotta look this up oh my god new new
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: woke term just dropped a gender do you know what
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: a gender expansive lesbian is um.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: No it's it's everybody's trying to make themselves the most.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Special well that's like you're speaking more broadly about all
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: of this stuff yeah so yeah Okay, so a gender-expansive lesbian,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I'm digressing, but I thought we should learn something today.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Let's learn a new word. Is a person assigned... Yes?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: No, no, you can finish this, but I'm thinking that
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I've just negotiated to do that 20-minute song. Maybe we
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: should continue the conversation while I'm doing it.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Just so we start moving along, because I know.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I got to.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got like... About a half hour to an
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: hour left.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, sorry guys. I'm going to ask Brian to give
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: me the last song that came through so I can
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: get it done. I'll try it first.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Uh, you're talking about 20, 21, 12, 20 minute. Well,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: he didn't put it through yet. He didn't put it
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: through yet.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: No, it's, it's in the, it's in the super chow. Um, 21.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, Oh no.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: He's confirmed it. I just need to find it. So
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: what's the name? 21, 12.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: It's 21, 12 by rush, but I don't know if it's, uh,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's in, it's in Beat Saber,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: but go ahead, go ahead and get on the game
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and we'll go from there.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: 21, 12.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there it is.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Let me, uh, hold on a second.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Holy shit. Okay, here we go. Expert plus 20, almost
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: 21 minutes of this sucker. All right. Let's, um, then
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: you can start again.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Just, just load it up.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: I may not be able to respond to this madness.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm just going to read a little bit about
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: what gender expansive lesbian means.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Um, also my, my left controllers.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And, uh, Ram Bam 3000 sent through a, uh, a
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: request as well. So, um, thank you for that Ram Bam. We'll,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: we'll add it to the list, but Allison's going to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: do a 2112 now. That'd be worth it. It's a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: long song. I like Rush, but that's a lot of Rush.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a lot of Rush.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, so what is gender expansive? What does gender
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: expansive lesbian mean? A gender expansive lesbian is a person
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: assigned female at birth who is romantically and or sexually
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: attracted to other women who and whose gender identity or
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: expression expands beyond or does not conform to traditional societal
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: gender norms. While lesbian traditionally refers to a woman attracted
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: to women, the term is often claimed by gender-expansive, non-binary,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: or trans-masculine individuals who feel a connection to the lesbian
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: community despite not identifying strictly as women.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: You know what these people needed? They needed a father
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: who was just going to be like, really?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: They did, yes. They needed a father.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: You know, the father eyebrow raise.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Even go upside their head a little bit would be okay, yes.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: It's the not fooling anyone look.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: You're not fooling anyone. You're not fooling anyone, Susie.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I think all this stuff is just.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: That one dad who, when his daughter was like, I'm, I'm... No,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: when his... It was either his son or his daughter
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm really the opposite sex. So the dad
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: decided to come out as trans. And then the kid
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: just was like, you know what? No.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Because it was no longer cool, right? Yeah. Jesus, that
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: is one dedicated father. That's a father there.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: Roboto gives us a rumble. Willing to use any mind games.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Willing to use any mind games to save his child
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: from her bullshit. Oh, God, this is not... Okay, we'll see.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: We'll see if I can get through this.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: All right, just concentrate on that. I'm going to read
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: some chats and I'm going to continue with the article.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Roboto1234567 gives a dollar on rumble and says, these people
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: need a Vietnam campaign. Well, I hope we don't get
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: a Vietnam. I don't want that.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, because that's going to be the young men
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: who aren't taking place, aren't in any way taking part
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: in this bullshit.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe a Vietnam if we just send people who,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: you know, can't reproduce the species anymore.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Vietnam for the trunes and the non-binaries and stuff.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, so... While lesbian traditionally refers to women attracted to women,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: the term is often claimed by gender expansive, non-binary, or
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: transmasculine individuals who feel a connection to the lesbian community
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: despite not identifying strictly as women. Gender expansiveness is an
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: umbrella term for individuals who broaden common.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Why would you feel a connection to the lesbian... What?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: Why would you feel....
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Why would you what?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Feel a connection to the lesbian... connection to the lesbian
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: community besides despite being a trans man so in other words.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Because they don't want to be men allison i that's
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: that's the only thing i could figure is like they
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: want to be trans men but they don't want to
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: be men men so they basically try to like read
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: they come up with a new word instead of like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: saying oh i identify as a man because men are
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: evil so we got to be something different so we're
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: going to be gender expansive lesbians Which is a way
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: of avoiding the man label. I think that all this stuff, trans, masculine, non-binary,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: when women do it, I think that they don't want
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: to be men. But they want to be special, somehow.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Alright.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: Um....
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: So it's an umbrella term for individuals who broaden commonly
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: held definitions of gender, including their expression, associated identities, or
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: perceived gender norms. This identity can manifest in various ways,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: such as expression. A person may present in ways that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: challenge gender stereotypes. Example, a cisgender woman who presents as
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: butch or masculine while still identifying as a woman. Whatever
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: that even means. Uh, identity. A person may identify as non-binary, genderqueer,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: or transmasculine, but still claim the lesbian label due to
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: political alignment. Oh, so you admit that it's political. Community
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: belonging or attraction patterns. Fluidity. Some gender-expansive lesbians may be gender-fluid,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: shifting their gender expression or identity over time while maintaining
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: their attraction to women. Yes, go ahead.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: You know what group of people is not doing this?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Gay men. Yeah, gay men.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Oh no men yeah well gay men too sure no
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: gay men are just that's why when I was reading
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: the story and they kept saying he for this noir
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: person I was like that's not a man that's a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: woman um just based on the way they're acting because
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: a gay man would just go to a different bar
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: so he's like well I'm just gonna go somewhere else.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: So unfortunately gay men are still men.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah yes so anyway.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Even the fanny ones they're still men.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: You can be a man and be slightly feminine. Just
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: like you can be a woman and be slightly feminine.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: You don't need an infinite variety of special categories for yourself.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I mean a woman and masculine in it, not feminine.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: Left touch is low. Okay, so I'm juggling a couple things.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: My left touch controller is low.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Low battery? Uh-oh.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Yep. Shit. Shit.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Organizations like PFLAG and Our Bodies Ourselves emphasize that gender-expansive
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: people may identify as female, male, both, or neither, and
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: that the term is preferred by many in the community
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: over gender-nonconforming to describe this broad spectrum of identities and expressions.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: So that was like a quick primer on what gender-expansive
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: lesbian means. Um, there you go.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Let's see. I... Well, I looked up. What the hell
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: is P flag?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I need to take a break to change my....
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Did you finish it or you got a charger thing?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: No, are you fucking kidding me? I think I'm like
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: one quarter of the way through. I need to change my.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a long song.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Jeez, Rash, what were you thinking? Okay, keep going. I
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: can actually pay attention now for a bit.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I'm going to go back to the article.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: So I reached Noir, who identifies as a gender expansive
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: lesbian and uses he, him pronouns by Zoom a few
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: days later. So now we know what a gender expansive
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: lesbian is. I asked whether he has any sympathy for
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: those running last ditch, given the profound financial strain they
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: are under. No, he replies. Noir asked to be referred
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: to by his stage name because he says he has
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: been stalked and fears for his safety. Yeah, sure. I'm
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: not going to give grace when someone is spreading rhetoric
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: that can and will get people hurt, he says, referring
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: to the fact that the bar's account had liked a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: few comments supporting the relaxed rule. Remember, this is all
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: about a bar that was going out of business if
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: they don't make more money, so they relaxed a rule
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: on masking for one day out of the week. One day! Remember,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: think about that when they write all kinds of articles
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: about how some men are complaining about Girls' Night. They're
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: not shutting companies down. They're not going out and protesting.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: They're just annoyed with it, and most men are not
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: bothered by it. It's only a few. So, just keep
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: that in mind. Anyway.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Do they even do girls' nights anymore?
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: I think they do still, yeah. But I don't think
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: it's as common or popular as it used to be.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: I honestly don't know. There's no men going to bars anymore.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Actually, I just realized something.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Men are not fucking asking women out. Men are not
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: asking women out.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: No, they're not. Why would they? Moreover, the mask policy
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: change promotes these ableist ideas that disabled people, immunocompromised people,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: should either risk their health or just be pushed out
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: of spaces, he says. Noir, who lives about 50 minutes
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: south of Greenfield, estimates he has visited the bar seven
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: or eight times, but he won't return unless there is
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: new leadership. You can't repair a house that's on fire.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: He says.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: I guess that was a breather.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: So this is a person who's been there like eight times.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: And they're basically able to make these kinds of demands,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: this ultimatum. It's crazy. All right, anyway. Saturday, September 12th
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: is the second weekly mask optional night at Last Dish.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: This is literally like only the second week since this
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: whole fiasco started. Down a set of stairs in a
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: small concrete courtyard, a few people mill outside smoking. Another
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: handful linger inside near the bar under string lights. The
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: dance floor, a wide checkered expanse with a stripper pole
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: at the center, is empty. Of course, nobody's dancing. They're
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: all disabled. I mean, I don't mean they're in wheelchairs.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: They're all identifying as disabled for one reason or another.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: They're probably just.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: They're all competing under this... Yeah. Basically, this court.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: When I say they're disabled, I don't mean that they're, like,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: literally disabled. I'm saying that they identify as disabled.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: It's the fashion at the court to be disabled. So
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: they're all competing over that. Um.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Mattelion is one of the few people wearing a mask.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I talk with her and another volunteer, Melody Young, in
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: a small library tucked inside an alcove by the bar,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: filled with zines and lesbian classics such as Stone Butch Blues.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: This is also their free store, which carries food, clothes,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: fentanyl test strips, Narcan, literature about STIs, and other supplies.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Above us hangs a sign, Prom cancelled cuz lesbians. They
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: have fentanyl test strips?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: Wait, what's Stone Butch Blues? I want to look that up.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: What are fentanyl test strips for?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see what that is too. Hold on.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Fentanyl test strips. Narcan. I don't know what that is either.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: Literature about STIs and other supplies. So let me just see.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I think Narcan is a drug of some kind. Uh,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: it's a nasal spray. So, um.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Okay. Narcan is a nasal spray as a treatment designed
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: to rapidly reverse the effects of a life-threatening opioid emergency.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay. What is going on at this bar? That's
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: what I want to know. Fentanyl test strips are a
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: low-cost harm reduction tool used to detect the presence of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: fentanyl and its analogs in illicit drugs before consumption. They
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: are primarily designed for testing powders, pills, and injectable substances
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: by dissolving a small sample in water and dipping the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: strip for approximately 15 seconds. So that's what a fentanyl
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: test strip is. I guess they have some issues in
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: this area. I don't know. All right, anyway, Stone Butch Blues.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Published in 1993, This brave original novel is considered to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: be the finest account ever written of the complexities of
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: a transgendered existence. Woman or man? That's the question that
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: rages like a storm around Jess Goldberg clouding her life
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: and her identity. Growing up differently gendered in a blue-collar
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: town in the 1950s, coming out as a butch in
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: the bars and factories of the pre-feminist 60s, deciding to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: pass as a man in order to survive when she
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: is left without work or a community in the early 70s.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: This powerful, provocative, and deeply moving novel sees Jess coming
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: full circle. She learns to accept the complexities of being
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: a transgender person in a world demanding simple explanations. A
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: he-she emerging whole, weathering the turbulence. This is fiction, though.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: If you want to see the reality, look up Nora Vincent.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: But nobody's going to do that. Written by Leslie Feinberg.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: You guys are not beating the allegations. Customers say that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: this book is a required read that captures the interest
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: and moves them emotionally, with one customer noting how it
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: validates their frustrations and sadness. Moreover, the writing is well-crafted
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: and customers appreciate its honest portrayal of society, with one
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: review highlighting how it describes the queer lifestyle with accuracy
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: and empathy. Additionally, customers praised the story's depth, with one
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: describing it as a well-written story of grief. However, the
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: readability receives mixed feedback, with some finding it an easy
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: read while others find it difficult to read at times.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: It's probably not a well-written book. I'm just going out
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: on a limb there.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Huh? What is the book again?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: It's called Stone Butch Blues, a novel. It's about being
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: trans in.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: The 60s or something.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Also, why are they taking away from what gay men
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: had to deal with at that time?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, because it's got to be, it's about feminism
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, so. Let's see. All right,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: now let me get back to the article. All right.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost over, so. Uh, let's see. I
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: remember a comment on Last Ditch's original announcement after the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: pile-on had begun. At Scream Guy Wazzap asked, I'm sorry,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: all 400 of these crazy people live in Greenfield, Massachusetts?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Some random guy, I'm guessing. Some random guy was like,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: what the hell's going on here? I asked whether the
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: people behind the angriest pose have genuine connections to the bar.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: Are they real customers? Young and Mattelian say yes. They
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: know many of the detractors. So these aren't just trolls
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: that are just messing with them. These are people who
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: go to this bar. There are people that are close
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: to us and love us who are really disappointed in
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: our decision.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, fuck!
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: No!
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: I just died. How many minutes have I been doing this? No!
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Can you do a no fail run?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: It's 20 minutes long. I mean, we can't be like. Besides,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: you've got four songs besides this.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: One to do. Yeah.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: All 400 of these people live in Greenfield, Massachusetts. Young
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: and Mattel says, yes, they know many of the detractors.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: These are people who are close to us and love
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: us who are really disappointed in our decision and that
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: is completely understandable, says Young, who says her sister is
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: one of the vocal critics online. Like, it's so understandable
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: why they feel hurt by the way we did it
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: and the fact that we did it. They have passion
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: for the space, Mattelian adds. A number of people on
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Instagram also said they were excited to visit the space unmasked.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: But this night, the hope for other patrons haven't materialized.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: despite $ 10 cocktails and sternum-shivering dance tracks from DJ Harsh
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Noise's boyfriend. What? That's the name of the DJ? DJ
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Harsh Noise's boyfriend. Is that another troon or, like, angry woman?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Let me find. Oh, this is a real person. I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: looked him up on their Instagram. DJ Harsh... Oh, no,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: it's a... Is that a man? Is that a man? Wait,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: hold on. Experimental sound design, Western Massachusetts.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Fuck. Rush just got significantly harder.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's a trans man. I think that's a
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: trans man. That's not a man. They got like the,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: because you know the trans men, have you guys ever
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: noticed that trans men, when they start to live as men,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: they live as the most douchey looking dude they can
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: think of and they think that's what men are. You know,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: they get, like, a bunch of tattoos. They wear, like,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: white beaters. They get, like, they grow massive beards. Like,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: they go all out. Like, they try to... It's like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: they're wearing a costume of what they think men are like.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, because they're actually women. Yes. And that's what
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: women think manhood is, is a costume.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, yeah, especially if you are buying into this
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: identity stuff. Anyway, so... DJ Harsh Noise Boyfriend, at the
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: queer bar that occupied this space before Last Ditch, where
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: masks were not required, a night like this might have
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: drawn 100 people, estimates Mixxy, the bartender on duty that night.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: A trans woman with thick black eyeliner and cat-like poise,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: Mixxy is closeted in her day job as an engineer.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: She loves the bar enough to work for just tips,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: knowing that Last Ditch is in the red. But she
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: thinks the early dogmatism about masks was a mistake. People
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: don't like to feel scolded, she says. That's not how
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: hospitality works.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: This is a man.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: This is a biological man. And he's the only person
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: that's being reasonable in the whole story.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys. I mean, these trans people are like, oh,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: you can be a man. But the problem is that
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: you don't behave like men or women. This guy says
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: he's a woman?
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: He's the only one being sensible.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: And actually saying, oh, wait, well, I mean, they're just
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: external realities that must be accommodated. And perhaps this was...
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: You know, like, the most sensible thing has come from
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: a trans woman.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I'm really surprised.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: In this instance, anyway.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: If he's still passing in his day job.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: No, he's still... No, in his day job, he's in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: a closet. So in his day job, he just looks.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Like a man.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that this person didn't go... like all
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: out in terms of like the surgeries and stuff. And
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: they're probably just.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: He's the most rational person in this entire mess.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: And also the only one who's trying to do something
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: to help to genuinely help. You notice that he's actually
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: sacrificing something to genuinely help.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: He's, he's volunteering here just for tips. Right? He's volunteering
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: his time. He's an engineer. His time is probably worth
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: $ 120 an hour. And he's volunteering it. Right? How many
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: hours is this shift?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: Six?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Whatever? Four? So he's giving them that money. To try
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: to help the woman who is being destroyed by this
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: because of the $ 50, 000 loan. So he's the only one
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: chipping in and the only one who makes any sense.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: I just want to point that out. Why does he
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: want to ruin that with estrogen?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Maybe he's just going to wear
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: a costume and that's it.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope. I don't know.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Roboto gives a dollar and says, me thinks that trans
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: has gotten too political. Yeah, you think? All right.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: You know, the funny thing is there was a time,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: I remember, when it wasn't that political.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm sure there was a time where it
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: didn't look that political. But I think it was always political.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: It's just that a lot of people just thought it
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: was a lifestyle thing or something that answered questions they
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: had about their own identity. But I think it was
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: always political. Tildir says, given the topic, has no one
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: requested Gay Bar by Electric Six? That's kind of funny.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take you to a gay bar. That's
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: the song.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: So that's it?
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: No, that's not the whole song. I'm just saying that's
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: the part I know. That's the only, that's the part
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I know. I think I heard it on the radio.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: How long have I been doing this song? It feels
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: like forever.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: It's 20 minutes. 21 minutes and 12 seconds.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: You agreed to this.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. Anyway. Just after midnight, one person is left at
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: the bar. A regular who works at the Mexican restaurant
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: next door. She wonders aloud about holding a Lady Gaga-themed night,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: but Mixie demures. Gaga is cancelled, she says. Gaga is Zionist.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: How many more intersections can we throw into this fucking stew?
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Is Gaga Zionist?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Lady Gaga, apparently. That's what this person is claiming. So yeah,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: Gaga is cancelled. Gaga is a Zionist. The DJ is
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: still playing EDM and Mattelian is alone on the checkered
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: dance floor making pensive, graceful loops on the stripper pole.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: KN95 mask in place.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: She's just going to have to become a stripper.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Mattelian doesn't expect the conflict at last ditch to end soon.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: She plans to co-operatize the bar so she doesn't bear
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: so much financial liability and But that will come with
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: its own challenges, and the discord about masking is unlikely
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: to go away. But it comes with the territory, she says.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: There's conflict, but we just hope that there is more
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: repair than conflict. That's the price you pay to be
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: in a community, Mattelian says.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of the article. The trans woman
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: who works as an engineer likes this girl.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: No, I think that person is, well, that's also the
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: same person that said that Lady Gaga is canceled.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Oh. So. Um. I'm just saying that maybe he has
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: an interest in the Chico running the bar.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I have my doubts. He's probably gay.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I would think. It's possible, but
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's kind of a hole-in-the-wall bar, too,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: on top of that. So, yeah. Who would have thought
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: that the intersexual, lesbian, COVID-conscious bar would have closed down
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: after a short amount of time, after the original founders left,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: leaving one woman holding the bags. And everyone attacking her
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: for basically every istaphobic allegation that you can think of.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Because she doesn't want to. She wants to actually pay
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: off the loan that she's on the hook for.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Because she wants a successful business.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: To pay off the loan she's on the hook for. Right?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: So what do we learn from this? Never get involved
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: in these initiatives. Never volunteer. How does a volunteer just
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: trying to help them out end up with this fucking loan?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: From these cheats. You notice how they have absolutely no
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: sense of accountability?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah. It's amazing. I wish there were comments.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: I really do. I wish there were comments, but there
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: are none.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Comments where?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Like comments under the article. But they're not. Which is
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: a shame. I'm trying to see if there's, like, maybe
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: there's a post somewhere else where people are talking uh,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, good lord.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is, like, story of the year, this one.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so funny. Um, you just gotta laugh, because, like,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing you can do but laugh. It's sad,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: but it's the only way people are gonna learn anything,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: is if they suffer.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, the leaderboard won't upload.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: But you finished the song. Maybe that's good enough.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't finish... You didn't finish it? Yeah, I
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: finished it, but not on... Well, I did, but I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: still lost, so... Oh.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe you'll get an A for effort. Yeah.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Come on. Upload the scores. Network error. Maybe it's due
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: to the blackout. Okay, let me do the other ones.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, let me give you the one that went through
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: as a super chat first.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: Okay. Alright.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Rambam3000 says, can you do Ramstein's Ich Will? So it's Ramstein, Ramstein, whatever. R-A-M-M-S-T-E-I-N.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: And the song is Ich Will, I-C-H-W-I-L-L.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: It's just one, it's one M?
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: Uh, Ramstein is two M's.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Ugh, my thing is fogged up. Stein, S-T, no, E-I-N. Ick. Will. Okay.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: How long is it? Three and a half.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. I don't think these other songs are that long.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: I think they're like normal song length. Alright, anyway. So...
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to the chick that went to
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: clown college. Did she graduate? Probably not. Imagine dropping out
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: of clown college.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: That's just like a cat. Clown college, she already was
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: in one.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no. She literally is in one.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: I got mad telling the story. I dropped out of
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: clown college. I wasn't funny enough. I wasn't even funny
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: to look at. It's so messed up, man. To get
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: people caught up in some kind of business venture and
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: no one is taking it seriously enough.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Is it the one who's on the hook?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: At that point, I would have just been like, nope,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: you guys don't deserve me putting myself on the hook
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: like this. This is no longer a lesbian bar, it's
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: a gay bar. Fuck off. Just make it a gay bar.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: You'll probably make your money back and your clientele will
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: be a lot better. A lot more appreciative, at least.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Or if you want to do a real poke in
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: the eye, make it a straight bar. I don't think
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: there are any of.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: Those, though.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Straight bars? Yeah. No, they're just bars. And that's fine.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone cares.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 5: All right, and then after this, we've got to go
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: through the three... It's just three, right, that were sent?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to have to put.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. There's four. We've got one, two, three, four.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: There's five, actually. Well, no, there's four, because the Great
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Indoors song is on there. So, yeah, there's four. You
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: want me to say no more requests?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how many total song requests do we have?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: Five.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Six, actually.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Six, because this one.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, no more requests.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: So, six total. Okay. That.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: That one, the 20-minute one, sort of shattering.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. Oh, I see. She said it
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: dropped out because she had nothing more to learn. I'm
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: in clown school. She realized she had a PhD.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Um... The clown school was... The clown school was the
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: friends I made along the way.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: Let me see.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Let me see what else you guys are saying in
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: the chat while Allison's doing the songs. Red Stapler says
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: she fell for one of the classic blunders. Never... never
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: her involved with a lesbian when debt is on the
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: line never get involved with a lesbian when debt is on.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: The line.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Student loans for clown college and of course like feminists
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: and lesbians online are really angry that this story got
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: out and they're like stop talking about this This doesn't
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: reflect us. Yes, it does. The fact that you came
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: out and you're not just joining in the fucking chorus
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: of making fun. Yeah, I think that basically sums it up.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: But anyway.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: No, well, it certainly does reflect you that you are,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: like Brian said, not joining in. Instead, you're defending yourself.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: That's exactly the same behavior you see.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: Next one.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: All right. That was, uh, Ramstein. It will, it will.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Next is, um, this is from beat saber request.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: It was the first post we got. for 10, and
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: do you want me to.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me go
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: back to the one. 2120.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: 2112.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm dead last, and it's only 20. Okay, never mind.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: Well, you got in the top 100.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Nobody does that. I know, but he qualified that there
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: has to actually be more than 100 people who've done this.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: And it looks like only about 17 people were willing
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: to do 20 minutes of Rush. I wonder why. Okay.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: What's the next one?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: Next song is.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is from Beat Saber Request. It's Goku Raku Jodo,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: regular version. So let me just spell it out for
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: you because this is weird. G-O-K-U-R-A-K-U. That's one word. G-O-K-U-R-A-K-U.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: Got it?
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, just.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: Okay. Okay, judo. Okay.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Judo, regular version by Garnadelia and WNW. Is that the one?
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: You got that? Yeah, I got it. It's kind of
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: a long title. All right. You're doing that one now?
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually discovered... I think it's easier just to
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: search the song and then do it.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: It's like weeb shit.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Let's see.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: What else.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: We got here going on?
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying... 70 years ago, these women would just
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: be having children.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Or, you know, they'd be like, I don't know,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: going into the barren wastes. Like, walking. Walking into the
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: barren wastes.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: Well, this is certainly a better use of their time.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. If you want to know more about me, please
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: subscribe to my channel.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, apparently, here's something that's kind of interesting. There's a
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: new indie video game that is like crushing the, what
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: do you call it? The sales, crushing sales numbers. And
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: people are finding it kind of interesting. I'm going to
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: like double check and look it up here. Okay. The
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: game is called Dressmaker. And it's described as, become a dressmaker,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: choose fabric, cut out patterns, and sew them all together
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: to satisfy or sabotage town folk in this cozy crafting
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: game inspired by real dressmaking. Guess who it's really popular with?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: You know what? I'm going to say women, but I'm
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: also going to say, why couldn't women's interventions in gaming
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: been placed up like this? Just create woman games. Just
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: create woman games.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: There already are. Well, that's the thing, though. Obviously, there
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: already are women games, and there have always been games
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: for girls and women. But the thing is that the
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: part of the games industry that's constantly getting shit on
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: and changed and all that, It's all the stuff that
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: boys like. It's the stuff that's popular with men and boys.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but my point is, stop doing that.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but it's also... But the reason
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: for this, too, is that men invest more money in
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: gaming than women by, like, orders of magnitude. So it's
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: a much bigger audience. So developers... Okay, all right. Developers
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: think that they can get the female audience... by changing
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: the content of the games, by altering the content to
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: where they add in female characters, or they add in
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: more of the female way of experiencing things into male games,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: making them more emotional and dramatic and stuff. And it's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: not popular with men or women. Because women don't really
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: want that. They want games like the Dressmaker game, which is, again,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: it's selling really well. And The problem with that is
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: that these activist types, they believe that there should be
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: no difference between men and women. So when women don't
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: respond to the stuff that they've changed, they don't know
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: what to do about it because they can't shame them.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: But so what they do instead, they just try to
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: tempt them. Like, oh, you shouldn't be doing this. And
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: it's like, but they don't want to do that.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: They blame them, like the Superman, the Supergirl movie.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Lindsay, yeah, like Lindsay who plays, like, games with me
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: we play resident evil together we play uh repo together
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that she gets into these kind of
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: like cozy games too like like um for her minecraft
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: is one of those games so she plays a lot
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: of minecraft uh on you know on occasion and also
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: there's like these sort of like They're like bakery simulators,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: like where you go into the kitchen, you have to
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: make like, you know, cakes. And I think it's like
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: cake making simulator or something like that. And you can
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: design them and stuff. And she, you know, gets a
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: kick out of that sometimes. And I wouldn't say that
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Lindsay is the most feminine woman, but, you know, she
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: has a feminine side for sure. But I think that
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: it's basically like the problem is that men and women
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: are not the same. And people think that they should be.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: And so they're trying to force that. That's what they're doing.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: And of course, the only way they do it is
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: by messing with the stuff that men like.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, that's the outcome. Unfortunately, they're completely hypocritical
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: again about saying that men and women are the same
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: because they have ascribed a set of characteristics to men
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: based on men's biology. Right. And that's not treating men
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: and women as the same. Sure. That deciding for a new,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: different dichotomy that you then assert with almost a tyrannical level. So,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, they say they want men and women
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: to be the same, but ultimately what I think they
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: want is they want to just destroy men.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: All right. Get rid of men.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Next song.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Um, Graydon Doors sent five and said, Chicago Musical, Overture,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: All That Jazz. So, Chicago Musical, Overture, All That Jazz.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: Who sent this?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: Graydon Doors sent this. He sent Rush and this.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: What were you going to say about... Jazz. But what
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: were you going to say about this game?
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Nothing except that it was a big hit for an
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: indie game. And it is mostly being played by women
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: and girls. And there's nothing wrong with that. Except that
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: people are upset by it because... They think that, like,
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: they don't like the idea that I guess there is
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: something that has women figured out. Like, oh, you guys
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: like this, let's give you this. And they're like, you're
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: not supposed to know what we want. It's like they
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: want to remain, I don't know, like, mysterious, unknowable. Like,
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like, I've noticed that.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: Are you sure this is a Chicago musical?
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chicago.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Because I'm seeing all that jazz, but not under a
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: Chicago musical.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Chicago musical, Overture, all that jazz.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Castle in the Sky? Odd Chop?
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: It is on Beat Saber. That's not it. Try... Do
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: you want to try the link instead?
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: No, that's going to be very difficult for me to.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Try All That Jazz by itself. See if you can
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: find it there.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: I'll do the old one.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: Okay. Chicago. Okay, here we go. Not sure why the
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: other one didn't do it. Yeah. Okay, there we go.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: Playing.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. How many have we done? Got two more?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Beat all that jazz. There's three more after this. No, no,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: two more. You're right. Two more, two more, two more
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: after this.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: Three total crap out of me.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: So this is the song, All That Jazz?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: Very jazzy.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Sort of refreshing, actually.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: It's got that little bit of that noir feeling. So
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: you sure we have two more songs after this?
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: There's two more after this, yeah. Remember Summer Days, Matt
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Cross by Telomnar, and Richard B. Ayers, Just a Girl
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: by No Doubt.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: So this has actually been sevens.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's only if you count 2112 as one song.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: In that case, it's been 20 songs.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: No, let's see. It would have been ten songs. You
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: count that as four songs plus the other six. Well, actually,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: noir is a little bit later than the Roaring Twenties.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. I'm looking up just to see if there's anything
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: else going on.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: Did we ever find out what the hell a fentanyl
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: strip is?
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something that you use to detect whether or
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: not an opiate has fentanyl. in it. Uh, the, the,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: the strip can be like, I guess if it's like
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: in a liquid or some other substance, you can, um,
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: dip it in there. And then like a few seconds,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: it'll change color to tell you that there's fentanyl in there.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: So it's just so you don't end up taking fentanyl
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: instead of whatever you were intending to take, like Molly
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, it's funny, like, in any regular
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: bar where there's men, like, the idea that these even exist,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: they would, like, there would be freaking campaigns everywhere about, like,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: men drugging women, but when it's a lesbian bar, they
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: don't just pretend like that's not a problem. They actually
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: give you the tools to figure out if, oh, somebody
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: did try to hand me some fentanyl. It's a good
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: thing I got my fentanyl strips. Thanks, you know, Last Ditch. Also,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: you guys are problematic. That's terrible. Oh, man. This is
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: like the best thing ever. I'm sorry. It's just really
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: funny to me. Can't help it.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: You know that, I think cocaine has the same, it
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: activates the same regions of the brain as actual, like,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: relationship bonding. So drugs can actually be a way of
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: compensating for a lack of pair bonding.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 3: In our society.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: Just, we're self-medicating, essentially. Because we can't breed. Or we
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: can't form relationships to get to that point.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: And we are thus an incredibly miserable species that has
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: to drug itself to continue to exist. But we can't
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: actually address that.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: So I got two more after all that jazz. All right.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Love it i have to do squats oh no what
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: what what what.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: So there's like this there's this company that makes dairy
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: products called the laughing cow and you might have seen
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: i mean i don't know if they have it in
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: canada but i've seen it in the states for sure
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: The Laughing Cow has like a cow's head. It's like
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: red on like a white background. And it's normally like
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: a smiling cow. They've changed their mascot's smile with a
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: straight face on some of the packaging. And the new
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: packaging reads, we need to talk. But the company says
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: she'll explain when she's ready. After more than 100 years, yes,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: The Laughing Cow is over 100 years old as a company.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: The Laughing Cow has stopped laughing. We need to talk. So,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: About what?
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's probably going to be some.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: Was it going to create cow milk for vegans?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: Like this bar that destroyed itself?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know yet. The Laughing Cow has spent 100
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: years reminding us not to take life too seriously, so
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: when she suddenly gets serious, you pay attention. Whatever finally
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: got to her must be worth talking about. We'll let
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: her explain when she's ready. This could just be a
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: marketing gimmick, but I have this feeling that Laughing Cow
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: is about to get serious about and lose a lot
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: of customers. That's what I'm guessing is going to happen.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: They're going to get preachy and people are going to
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: be like, no, fuck this.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: Um....
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: How long is that song? Four minutes?
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: That felt a little bit long, but... Okay, next is... Teleminar,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: Remember Summer Days, Macross.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: Is that from... Remember Summer Days?
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 4: Macross.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: Macross.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 2: Is that one from... That movie that we watched, Telomnar?
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to use the other search. This is turning
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: out not to be the better song.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: Imagine the laughing cow is vague posting online. I'm going
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: to tell you when I'm ready, but I'm not happy
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: right now. When a normal person does that, it's annoying
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: to me because obviously it's a ploy for attention. Oh,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: what's wrong? Oh, I hope you're okay. Oh, my God. Oh,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: my God. But a fucking corporation doing it? Oh, man. Sad. Sad, sad, sad.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: This is weeb. This is weeb shit. It should be here.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Let me read it again. It's Remember Summer Days? Matt Cross.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not seeing it. Unless it's under some other... Remember...
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not misspelling this.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: Summer....
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: Days.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: A-any? Oh. Remember summer days. I don't.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 3: Want you.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 2: To... Remember summer days. Macross.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: Macross.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not seeing it. That's very strange.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: That's weird. Well, you wanna... I mean, I'm just telling
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: you how he sent it. I don't know if he
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: knows that it's... Okay.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: I'm not blaming you.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 4: Upload details. Close details. Upload details. Close details. Sunset.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 2: Lacrosse. Fun Tonight. Selfish High. Horsey. Uh, maybe there's another
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: detail you need to send us, Telenar. Okay, what's the
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: next song? I'll get that one done.
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: Well, the last one is by Richard Bière. It's Just
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: a Girl by No Doubt.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: Got it. All right. All right, let's play that. And
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: is Talnor around? Maybe he can inform us.
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: I don't see him in the chat. I don't know.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: You have a slow song, Allison.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: Do I?
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. How did that happen? How did you know?
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: I know this song, and it was playing slow.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: Oh. Take this pink ribbon off my eyes. I'm exposed
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: and it's no big surprise.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 3: Don't you think I know exactly where I stand?
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: Um, just looking to.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: See what else is going on here. Apparently, um, Rachel
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: Wilson and Roma are beefing online.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 5: Why?
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: Well you know roma invented the man the the men's
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: rights activism right and um i think rachel had uh
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: she went after roma went after andrew for his debate
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: with that one lesbian feminist um who basically.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: Came out what did roma say huh What did Roma.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: Roma basically thinks that Andrew is a meany-pants, mean person,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: and that therefore he has no place in the movement
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: because she decides who is in and who is not.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: There needs to be a lot more mean men.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, I agree. This is what we need.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: We need a freaking... We need a tsunami of men
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: who just don't fake women's shit. Um.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: And if I were Andrew Wilson, I'd just say thank you.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I am exactly what the world needs. A
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: mean man. And the other thing is, like, you know,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: they will say that, like, the whatever podcast guys are mean, too, right? Mm-hmm.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: And yet, I dare you, I dare anybody who says
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: those guys are mean to look at the angry leprechauns
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: argument with Rachel Wilson. Remember that?
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: Yes. And now his frickin' eyeballs were popping out of
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: their skull, and you could see his native Irish desire
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: to beat the shit out of a woman just reaching
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: out of his frickin' eyes towards her. And he looked murderous.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: I've never seen the Whatever Podcast guys look murderous, even
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: though they're dealing with the absolute most frustrating, dumb... hypocritical, lying, moral-less,
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: degenerate bitches on the fucking internet. And they still have
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: more patience than a feminist man, or I think he's
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: a feminist man, dealing with a woman who can argue
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: in a calm and logical way just because she disagreed
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: with him. right i'm just pointing that out there's a
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: difference between a mean man and a dangerous one and
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: that feminist man was a dangerous one okay i'm done
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: that one i don't know if tell him.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: That's all there is uh that's all the songs i
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: don't know where.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Tell me more about this tell me more about this.
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: Um well i mean i guess okay so like uh
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: Andrew and Rachel have been, um, you know, mainly their,
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: their primary focus is criticizing feminism, um, which I'm fine with. And, uh,
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: that means that they have to criticize the modern women
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: because modern women are all feminists as our most modern men. And, um, uh,
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: so I think that Roma, despite the fact that her
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: platform is probably like the biggest men's rights platform, sadly,
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: Let me just check, because I think she is the biggest.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: Well, that's because she sells pictures of her bunghole.
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe. That's what people say. I don't know the truth, okay?
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: But there's probably something to it.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: Like, honestly, I'm going to be catty here. What the... No,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just the skankiness.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: She's got 1.69 subscribers, or million subscribers. So almost, she's
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: coming up on 2 million subs on her channel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, lovely, eh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is. And yeah, I mean, the content is,
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  Speaker 1: it's not groundbreaking. Like, it's all stuff that we've been
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  Speaker 1: saying 10 years ago, you know?
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  Speaker 2: No, that's not even stuff we say 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: It's like watered down stuff that we've said for years.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't Pearl bigger than that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me see. She doesn't like Pearl
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  Speaker 1: at all, too, by the way. Roma, that is. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's because she doesn't... Like, she thinks they're
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  Speaker 1: just meany-pants mean people. Yeah, two million. Pearl's bigger. Two
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  Speaker 1: million subs. So.
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  Speaker 2: She's far more men's rightsy. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. Yeah. It's just drama. Well, Allison's asking
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  Speaker 1: about the drama, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm asking about the drama, so.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Back off. Let me be honest. So, because... Roma, she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like it when people are competing with her that
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  Speaker 1: has a tone that she dislikes. I remember when she
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: was making recommendations, I watched one of her videos, it
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  Speaker 1: was years ago, and she recommended one male men's rights activist,
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  Speaker 1: the Tin Men, and I had the Tin Men on
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  Speaker 1: the channel. I said, okay, I'll get this guy on
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  Speaker 1: and we'll talk to him. She also recommended the Dadvocate
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  Speaker 1: and Emily King, and look, Dadvocate's good. She's gotten some
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  Speaker 1: laws changed or helped get some laws changed in certain states.
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  Speaker 1: That's nice. Emily King, you know, I guess, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: she's fine. Like I said, I'm not hearing anything from
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  Speaker 1: any of them that I didn't hear already from, you know,
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: us or Karen or whatever, but it's fine. And, but
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  Speaker 1: I think that what it comes down to is that
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  Speaker 1: Andrew and Rachel are competition for Roma. So, she basically
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  Speaker 1: looked at their content, said that they were being mean,
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  Speaker 1: and was like, this is not how I want this
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  Speaker 1: community to look. She also had some pretty shitty takes,
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: like on Kyle Rittenhouse and stuff in the past, but she.
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  Speaker 1: Then I think that what really did it was he debated,
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: I can't remember her name, but there was this woman,
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  Speaker 1: we actually made a video where we responded to the debate,
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: where a woman basically tried to accuse... andrew's wife of
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  Speaker 1: like being like a whore that sleeps around with lots
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  Speaker 1: of men and has lots of babies from different people
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  Speaker 1: and tried to use that to essentially discredit everything that
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  Speaker 1: he's saying so she made personal attacks unfounded allegations by
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  Speaker 1: the way rachel has talked openly about this she was
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  Speaker 1: in previous marriages she's like um you know it just
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  Speaker 1: didn't work out for her it was bad at the
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  Speaker 1: time and andrew was willing to basically like marry her
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  Speaker 1: and raise her children and his, and he also had
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  Speaker 1: some of his own with her. Now you can have
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: whatever feeling you want about that, that you want, but
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing to do because I'd
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  Speaker 1: rather those kids grow up with a, uh, an involved
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  Speaker 1: stepfather than no father. And this woman who attacked him
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 1: along those lines, she had no interest in what was
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  Speaker 1: good for the children. She just wanted to attack her
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  Speaker 1: enemy in the debate. And so what he did was
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  Speaker 1: he basically started doing, he used her same tactic against
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: her and started calling her a dyke and stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't doing it because he felt like being mean.
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  Speaker 1: He was doing it to make a point, which is
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  Speaker 1: if you attack me personally, I'm going to attack you personally.
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  Speaker 1: And that was the clip that went viral all over
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  Speaker 1: the internet where no people understood what was really going on,
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  Speaker 1: which was him exposing her tactics by using them on her.
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  Speaker 1: And when other people highlighted them and say, look at him,
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  Speaker 1: he's being mean. They're just proving his point about what
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  Speaker 1: she was doing. But of course, when a woman does
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  Speaker 1: it to a man, nobody thinks it means anything. Like
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't have the same weight. So Roma also took
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  Speaker 1: the bait on this. And she was also like, look
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: at how mean he's being to these women. And then
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: they were supposed to debate each other. Like she was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'll debate you. And Andrew was like, okay. And I,
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  Speaker 1: something happened. I think it involved like money or something
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  Speaker 1: that Roma wanted. She, She said that she got held
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  Speaker 1: up and couldn't cross the border or something. And Andrew
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: had to cancel because he had other things. And then
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 1: Roma said, oh, he ran away from the debate. And
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: that was what she was claiming after that. So she
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: basically constantly makes jabs at Andrew, at Rachel, at Pearl,
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  Speaker 1: at anybody that she thinks is not doing the men's
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  Speaker 1: rights things right, which of course only she knows how
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  Speaker 1: to do. Um, and Rachel challenged her to a debate.
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  Speaker 1: That was the last thing I saw. So, um, I'd
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: like to see that. I don't know if it's going
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: to happen. But I'd like to see that. Because Roma
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  Speaker 1: is the definition of a midwit. She is not as
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  Speaker 1: smart as she thinks she is. And unfortunately, she bought
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: into the simps that surround her. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the other part of this that people don't want to
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  Speaker 1: reckon with. Is that a lot of the reason why
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: Roma is this delusional is because of men. And that's
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  Speaker 1: the truth. So....
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Talonar gave me some additional details, so I
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: should be able to find this song. I should probably
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: do that right now, because I know that we've got
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: to get going. Uh, but, uh, for those of you
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: who I got through your song, please do put those, that,
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 2: that $ 25 to feed the badger.com slash support. Um, thank you.
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: Remote Ruby. You put in 25 very much appreciated. So, um, uh, if, uh, okay,
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: let's see if I can do this. Cause I got
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: to remember it. I'm going to send it to you
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: actually via super child, what he sent me. And then
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: you can, uh, You can read it out to me
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  Speaker 2: so we can get this done. It shouldn't take too
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: much longer. I'm just a completionist. All right. Back into
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 2: the rig.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: What's going on?
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: Future Funk Pack Remember Summer Days. Future Funk Pack Remember
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  Speaker 1: Summer Days.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. For some reason, this is not working now.
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  Speaker 1: Did it?
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, it did.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: Did.
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  Speaker 2: God damn it. It just quit. Just give me a second.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: I got to get it all set up again. This
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: sounds like a ridiculous. So why don't they just redo
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: the timing for the debate?
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. I, I haven't, I wasn't following
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: it that close. I'm not sure. I know that the
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: Wilsons are really busy. I don't know about Roma. Um,
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: I think that like, I just want to see it
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 1: like resolved, I guess, but I I'd rather, you know,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: people be focused on what really matters, but I know
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: that that's not really how this works. Uh, especially with Roma.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: I think I genuinely do think that Rachel and Andrew
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: have good intentions and I don't care about their attitude.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 1: I think that if you are, are concerned with that,
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: it's way too late for pleasantries. We're way past that
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: at this point. We're just going to have to be
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 1: mean to people, guys. I'm sorry. Just got to be mean.
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: So let's just be mean. Stop, stop dancing around it
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: because they use that against you. So you can't actually
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: like talk, you know, it's crazy. Yeah.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: Um, Okay, I can't seem to launch this. It's not
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: opening up.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's the... I think we... I can go
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: and see if Jonathan is around to fix it. That'll
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: take a moment, but.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: Well, I think... Can we just... I'm sorry. Can we just...
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: Because I got to go. I'm going to be late.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: So maybe we should just wrap it up and then
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: do another day.
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  Speaker 4: So.
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: All right, then. Okay. Sorry, Telenor. we got to get
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 2: going and unfortunately it didn't show up. And now the, that, uh,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: driver error that we were racing ahead of his has, uh, manifested. So, um,
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: thank you to Richard beer for putting in $ 25 and, and, uh, Um,
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: nobody else has put anything in yet though. So let's see. Um, if, uh,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: if you, if you did get a song request and
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: I did get through your song, please go to feed
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: the badger.com slash support and put something in the hat
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 2: for Brian, myself, um, Hannah and HBR for the month. Uh,
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 2: once again, that's feed the badger.com slash support. There are,
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: I think we did six songs, seven songs, right?
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 4: Six.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 1: Uh, we did seven. Seven. I think when we see one, two, three, four, five,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: no six, we did six.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, okay. We got one, two, three, four, five. Oh, wait, wait, wait.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: What the heck? Oh, are these like, did great indoors
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 2: give us like seven? Oh, or is this just, the
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: same song Rush 2112 Overture.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's the Rush song yes.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: Wow that is incredibly pretentious okay so you're right it's
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 2: just six Yeah, six. Six songs. So anyway, so I
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: managed to finish five of them. So please, please do
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 2: put something through if I did get your song done.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: I think there are four of you more. No, I'd
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: say two, three, three more of who, who did put,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 2: who did request something. All right. I'm going to, I'm
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: going to hand this back to Brian. And once again,
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 2: if you want to support the show, feed the badger.com
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  Speaker 2: slash support, and I will hand this back to Brian
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: because he's got to get going.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to go. So, Um, please consider subscribing
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• 2:11:42
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• 2:11:48
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  Speaker 1: you guys in the next one. Have a good rest
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: of your weekend, everybody.