Latest / Brian Thomas / Judge Napolitano - Jailed in America For Free Speech
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Seventy one at the lateral. If you go to our
- 0:03Speaker 1: next guest house on Friday Halloween, not only will you
- 0:07Speaker 1: get full sized milky ways and paydays, but also receive
- 0:11Speaker 1: a pocket constitution signed by Congressman Thomas Mancy. It's the
- 0:17Speaker 1: trick or treat trifecta. It doesn't get any better. Judge's
- 0:21Speaker 1: next Chuck Ingram on fifty five krc HE talks Station Ay.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Thirty three to fifty five KRCD talks Station Happy Wednesday
- 0:30Speaker 2: always made an extra special thing because Judge entered up Politicano,
- 0:34Speaker 2: to whom Chuck Ingram was referring, joins the program and
- 0:37Speaker 2: welcome back here, honor. He's setting you up for disaster.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Judseph Poltanda, Although because you live on a farm in
- 0:43Speaker 2: New Jersey, I have this vision. I've never been to
- 0:45Speaker 2: your place before. I don't know where it is, but
- 0:47Speaker 2: I have this vision of this really really sort of
- 0:51Speaker 2: not secluded, but like your nearest neighbors at least a
- 0:54Speaker 2: mile or more away. And you've got this driveway that's
- 0:56Speaker 2: about three hundred yards long. So to reach the full
- 1:00Speaker 2: sized candy bar and get a pocket constitution with the signature,
- 1:04Speaker 2: you're gonna have to make a hell of a journey.
- 1:06Speaker 3: Welcome back here, correct, And I'm in New York and
- 1:08Speaker 3: the farm is in New Jersey. I really thought that
- 1:12Speaker 3: Ingram would mention the Bengals Jets game. I was waiting
- 1:16Speaker 3: to hear, Oh, God, sorry to raise a sore spot,
- 1:20Speaker 3: how good the Bengals lows to the worst team in football.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Oh, We've become used to that. We always snatched a
- 1:26Speaker 2: defeat from the jaws of victory here in Cincinnati, your honor,
- 1:29Speaker 2: we're just waiting for it to have it. I was
- 1:30Speaker 2: so sad about that because everybody in the crowd was
- 1:33Speaker 2: so enthusiastic go until the end of the third quarter,
- 1:35Speaker 2: and then just just fell off the rail. So anyhow,
- 1:39Speaker 2: we're used to disappointment.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Anyway, How are you. It's a pleasure to be with your.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Bro Always a pleasure to have you want. I'm always
- 1:45Speaker 2: in a great moved when you're on the program, sir.
- 1:47Speaker 2: And I was actually in a total state of disbelief
- 1:52Speaker 2: with your column, which I'm fortunate enough to get an
- 1:54Speaker 2: early copy out comes out tonight at midnight. Jailed in
- 1:56Speaker 2: America for free speech. I was not familiar with the
- 2:00Speaker 2: subject matter that you got to which you always did,
- 2:02Speaker 2: Larry Buschard and what happened to him. Don't know how
- 2:05Speaker 2: that flew underneath my radar, sir, but this in America
- 2:07Speaker 2: that this happened, is.
- 2:10Speaker 3: To say, a retired twenty four year police corrections officer,
- 2:14Speaker 3: a veteran, not a fan of Charlie Kirk or of
- 2:18Speaker 3: the movement Charlie successfully created and advanced, and after Charlie's unfortunate,
- 2:29Speaker 3: tragic and horrific murder, posted a lot of incendiary statements
- 2:35Speaker 3: critical of Charlie, critical of what this cop believed Charlie believed,
- 2:41Speaker 3: and critical of the people who were mourning his death.
- 2:45Speaker 3: In one of those postings, he quoted something President Trump
- 2:50Speaker 3: said when he was candidate Trump totally out of context.
- 2:55Speaker 3: So now I've got to go back to a year
- 2:57Speaker 3: and a half ago, one of these horrible murders in
- 3:02Speaker 3: a school in Perry County, Iowa. Trump is a candidate.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Two days later, people are saying, you know, we got
- 3:10Speaker 3: to clamp down on Second Amendment rights. And Trump made
- 3:13Speaker 3: a very innocent, what I thought was poignant, excellent statement.
- 3:17Speaker 3: We have to get over it, just like that. Now,
- 3:22Speaker 3: this fella Bushart in the middle of the kerfuffle, that
- 3:25Speaker 3: occurred after the Charlie Kirk murder, where people were losing
- 3:29Speaker 3: their jobs, where foreign students were losing their visas, where
- 3:35Speaker 3: people were being disciplined because of what they said about Charlie.
- 3:40Speaker 3: This fellow Buschhart posts Trump's statement, we got to get
- 3:45Speaker 3: over it. He posts it. Remember the statement was made
- 3:49Speaker 3: about Perry County, Iowa. He posts it in where he lives,
- 3:56Speaker 3: which is Perry County, Tennessee. The local sheriff says, you're
- 4:02Speaker 3: posting something about killing people in the school. You're threatening
- 4:09Speaker 3: mass killings in the Perry County High School. We're going
- 4:12Speaker 3: to arrest you.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Now.
- 4:14Speaker 3: There is simply no connection whatsoever between quoting something candidate
- 4:20Speaker 3: Donald Trump said about a killing in Iowa in twenty
- 4:24Speaker 3: twenty four and the death of Charlie Kirk. There's no
- 4:28Speaker 3: connection whatsoever. How this sheriff's office sheriff, without an investigation,
- 4:36Speaker 3: without an interrogation, without any evidence about the present of
- 4:40Speaker 3: parent ability to do what he says this retired cop
- 4:44Speaker 3: was threatening to do, locked him up, and then the
- 4:48Speaker 3: court imposed a bail of two million dollars. This is
- 4:52Speaker 3: a guy living on a pension, and when his lawyers
- 4:59Speaker 3: asked to have they are reduced. She the judge delayed
- 5:03Speaker 3: their request for two months. This is some sort of
- 5:06Speaker 3: a small town gimmick to impair this guy's First Amendment
- 5:12Speaker 3: rights because he's an irritant and they don't like what
- 5:15Speaker 3: he posts on the Facebook. They don't understand what he wrote.
- 5:18Speaker 3: Guess what. The First Amendment protects speech, even that which
- 5:22Speaker 3: is absurd and unintelligible except to the speaker.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Well, and that the statement that he quoted from Donald
- 5:33Speaker 2: Trump eighteen months prior was not Donald Trump advocating for
- 5:36Speaker 2: school shootings, right son.
- 5:39Speaker 3: Donald Trump advocating for It's a tragedy. Let's turn the
- 5:43Speaker 3: page a perfectly appropriate statement to make about the school
- 5:48Speaker 3: shootings in Iowa and about the death of Charlie Kirk.
- 5:53Speaker 3: So you have a sheriff here, popularly elected, You have
- 5:56Speaker 3: a judge here, popularly elected. You have a base, a
- 6:00Speaker 3: population base probably decidedly pro Kirk. And here is an
- 6:06Speaker 3: opportunity for this sheriff and this judge to burnish their
- 6:10Speaker 3: political credentials by locking somebody up because he exercised the
- 6:15Speaker 3: freedom of speech. I had never heard of this guy.
- 6:18Speaker 3: I had never heard of the sheriff. I never heard
- 6:20Speaker 3: of Perry County, Tennessee until I saw this in the
- 6:24Speaker 3: intercept a website checked it out it's accurate, and decided
- 6:30Speaker 3: I got to write about this because even in small
- 6:33Speaker 3: town America, the freedom of speech can suffer.
- 6:37Speaker 2: And Lord Almighty, Judge Nitta Paulitano, you're on all the time,
- 6:42Speaker 2: You're you know, Judging Freedom podcast, You're on my show,
- 6:45Speaker 2: You're on multitude of different shows. You speak regularly. You
- 6:47Speaker 2: have a free speech right. You know you can exercise it.
- 6:50Speaker 2: But this case illustrates, and so do I. There but
- 6:53Speaker 2: for the grace of God, some corrupt public official who's
- 6:56Speaker 2: got a bone to pick with you can just haul
- 6:59Speaker 2: you off to jail and get a complicit judge to
- 7:02Speaker 2: keep you in jail. You mentioned in the article, what
- 7:04Speaker 2: did it take fifteen minutes to do a bail hearing?
- 7:06Speaker 2: They kicked this bail hearing off, effectively denying of him
- 7:10Speaker 2: of his liberty. Because what pensioner can come up with
- 7:12Speaker 2: even ten percent of two million dollars? They stick him
- 7:15Speaker 2: and jail and keep him there for a couple of months.
- 7:18Speaker 3: How about the Eighth Amendment? Nor shall excessive bail be required?
- 7:23Speaker 3: So in a case in which there's no evidence of violence.
- 7:26Speaker 3: The guy has no criminal record, he as an excellent
- 7:29Speaker 3: record as a police officer and corrections officer in that
- 7:32Speaker 3: county for twenty four years. He lives off his pension
- 7:37Speaker 3: and social security and they're going to impose a bail
- 7:40Speaker 3: of two million dollars as if he were a billionaire.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Yeah, this just.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Smacks of some sort of corruption, not necessarily financial corruption,
- 7:50Speaker 3: but political corruption. And you know, my libertarian friends often
- 7:56Speaker 3: say states rights, states rights, states rights, the states can
- 8:00Speaker 3: be tyrants too. Yes, this is an example of it.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Well, and I don't know a state constitution that doesn't
- 8:05Speaker 2: have a First Amendment in it. All of them do.
- 8:07Speaker 2: That's incorporated into it. And of course it applies the states,
- 8:10Speaker 2: it applies to governments. That this is key First Amendment grounds. Here,
- 8:15Speaker 2: a government cannot deprive you of your freedom of speech.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Now a business can. Going back to your point about
- 8:19Speaker 2: people losing their jobs for posts about Charlie Kirk or
- 8:22Speaker 2: really anything else. You can have your own speech practices
- 8:24Speaker 2: in a private business that isn't funded by government or
- 8:27Speaker 2: working at the behest of government. Sorry, that's the corporate rules,
- 8:30Speaker 2: but not in the case of government or government entities.
- 8:34Speaker 3: Correct, So you know there are some private entities like
- 8:37Speaker 3: Princeton University, almost any university exactly as an example. They
- 8:44Speaker 3: are bound by the Bill of Rights. They agreed to
- 8:46Speaker 3: be bound by the Bill of Rights when they accepted
- 8:48Speaker 3: the federal funds. So they can't discipline a student or
- 8:52Speaker 3: a professor because of what the student or the professor,
- 8:54Speaker 3: or an administrator or even a janitor said. But iHeartRadio, KNEW, Smax,
- 9:00Speaker 3: Fox News, CNN. If they don't like something that one
- 9:03Speaker 3: of us says has happened to all of us, they
- 9:05Speaker 3: could take us off air for a week, or even
- 9:08Speaker 3: under certain circumstances, not pay us for a week. The
- 9:12Speaker 3: government is not involved. We get it, we get it.
- 9:16Speaker 3: The owner of a business can protect the business if
- 9:20Speaker 3: he believes that an employee is adversely impairing the business.
- 9:26Speaker 3: But the government cannot evaluate the content of speech and
- 9:31Speaker 3: say I don't like what he said about Charlie Kirk,
- 9:34Speaker 3: I don't like his use of Trump's language from one
- 9:37Speaker 3: tragedy to another. I'm going to lock him up. Man.
- 9:40Speaker 3: That is an indicator of authoritarianism and a rejection of
- 9:45Speaker 3: basic constitutional values. I didn't mention the sheriff's name. I
- 9:49Speaker 3: don't want to get involved with the guy. But Americans
- 9:52Speaker 3: need to be wary of small people who have the
- 9:58Speaker 3: power to pair of your freedom.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Amen, and we can leave it on that note, Judge.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Editor Paul Tammo brilliant. I can't thank you enough for
- 10:08Speaker 2: bringing this to my attention. I'm a Paul. I thought
- 10:10Speaker 2: I was reading an article about the UK or Germany,
- 10:13Speaker 2: where they don't have a First Amendment. They arrest people
- 10:15Speaker 2: for what they say all the time. This is the
- 10:17Speaker 2: United States, this is Tennessee.
- 10:19Speaker 3: For God's sake, and just to prove I'm a good guy,
- 10:22Speaker 3: go Bengals.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. It's like prayer. We could
- 10:26Speaker 2: all use all we can get. Judge.
- 10:28Speaker 3: Do they still have that Italian kid from New Jersey
- 10:30Speaker 3: that they just traded for?
- 10:32Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah they did. It didn't work out so well
- 10:34Speaker 2: for mister Flaco. He needs some help. He's a one
- 10:37Speaker 2: man show. Can't go tolone. It's a team. It's a
- 10:40Speaker 2: team effort, and sometimes there isn't the effort necessary.
- 10:44Speaker 3: Judge. Until as just self bunch and then the wife
- 10:48Speaker 3: of Tom Brady said, after the Giants beat the Patriots
- 10:52Speaker 3: in the for the second time in a row in
- 10:54Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, my husband cannot both throw the blanket
- 10:58Speaker 3: and blank ball and catch the blankety blank bull. You
- 11:02Speaker 3: can fill in the blankety blank.
- 11:03Speaker 2: I figured that one out. Judging freedom. Who's on today,
- 11:05Speaker 2: Judge Enna Polatanou.
- 11:08Speaker 3: The Great scott Rinder at one o'clock this afternoon, How
- 11:12Speaker 3: Ukraine is on its last legs, even with all the
- 11:16Speaker 3: money the Europeans and the Americans are spending.
- 11:20Speaker 2: There week after week after week, the story stays the same. Yes,
- 11:24Speaker 2: Judge Enna Polatano, next Wednesday will do this again. God
- 11:27Speaker 2: bless you, sir much love my friend eight forty four
- 11:30Speaker 2: here fifty five krs that the talk say, shot me
- 11:32Speaker 2: get a quick word in here for prestigion