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Road To Survivor Series:Pit Stop in NYC · Wrestling Tracks

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Speaker 1: Ladies. Jim, Welcome to wrestling tracks. I'm le Houston. David
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Speaker 1: Burdens in the house. How you doing. I'm gonna drop
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Speaker 1: a little something some before Monday Night Raw tonight. Just
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Speaker 1: a few minutes, uh so, so won't be long, but
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Speaker 1: I will say this. I wanna uh if you're if
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Speaker 1: you're in the New York area, Davy is not too
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Speaker 1: far from you. Madison Square, Madis Quirk Garden. Hey, h
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Speaker 1: Pitt your phone on speak, I can't hear you. Uh
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Speaker 1: all right, let me let me start over here. I
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Speaker 1: call you.
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Speaker 2: All right, I gotta take all issues already here you go. Alright, alright,
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Speaker 2: that's been Yeah, that's on my all right. So Matti
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Speaker 2: scot Garden tonight Monday Night Raw. Johnsen the schedule to
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Speaker 2: uh do something Michael Pete.
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Speaker 3: Mike Championship last matchup.
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Speaker 4: Guard Oh wow, which was confirmed last week about the.
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Speaker 1: Way the dude just wanted last last week.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, now Tuesday, the day after he won it.
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Speaker 1: Uh, I got I'm willing to bid you might lose
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Speaker 1: it because you just want the thing.
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Speaker 4: They're probably gonna make him hold it all the way
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Speaker 4: to survivor. I'm guessing because I don't think he's gonna
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Speaker 4: retire with to Go, He's either gonna lose or Survivor
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Speaker 4: series or lose it on Saturday Nights meeting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I leave, man, swear Garden is not too far
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Speaker 1: from you.
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Speaker 3: No, not where I grew up. No, its now. Uh
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Speaker 3: I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: For see, I thought you had tickets already.
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Speaker 3: No, no, I'm not even in New York.
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Speaker 1: Ah, man, you definitely listen out.
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Speaker 3: But.
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Speaker 4: Already going and already going to tready twice.
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Speaker 1: We speaking of shows. Man, they're scratching my wrestling itch
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Speaker 1: and I like it. Next February thirteenth, I will be
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Speaker 1: in the house right here in Dallas, Texas, at the
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Speaker 1: American Airline Center for SmackDown. Now, unlike Raw, it's three hours,
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Speaker 1: two hours, unlike Raw. So uh, seven o'clock me, seven
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Speaker 1: o'clocks if you like, you can come, you come, lady
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Speaker 1: won't too that that's your ass. But seven o'clock, say
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Speaker 1: in the clock.
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Speaker 4: That's not when SmackDown comes to you. There will be
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Speaker 4: three hours SmackDown's returning.
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Speaker 1: Oh oh wow, oh time me.
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Speaker 4: Which I personally don't like about it.
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Speaker 3: That's what it does.
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Speaker 1: So it start says seven will be done. By ten song.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of stunters, you gotta talk about uh uh Chicago,
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Speaker 4: The Elimination Chambers coming to Chicago next year. Elimination Chamber
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six will take place at Chicago's United Center
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Speaker 4: and it will be the first pay per view ww
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Speaker 4: is holding at the United Center since Get This Summer
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Speaker 4: Slam in nineteen ninety four. Wow, that was over forty
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Speaker 4: years ago. M hm, that's insane.
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Speaker 3: To think about.
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Speaker 4: They haven't had a pay per view in Chicago, well
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Speaker 4: in that building.
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Speaker 3: They haven't had a pay per view since ninety four.
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Speaker 4: They've had pay per viewers in Chicago and the other buildings,
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Speaker 4: but nothing.
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Speaker 1: Not it say it's going down. Uh, of course it's
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Speaker 1: still on the last last time is now a tournament.
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Speaker 1: John Zena said, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let
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Speaker 1: the powers that be just get hand over the match,
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Speaker 1: my last match to just anybody if you want like
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Speaker 1: like like like Major Pains like Major Pain said, you
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Speaker 1: want me going, you want to earn it. So we're
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Speaker 1: having a tournament. The winner of that tournament will be
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Speaker 1: he has the catch twenty two. On one hand, you
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Speaker 1: get to retire John's Zena.
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Speaker 5: You go down in history. You get to retire John Zena.
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Speaker 1: If you lose, you couldn't get the job done against
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Speaker 1: John Zena, So you gotta catch twenty two.
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Speaker 5: On one hand, you retired the great John Zena.
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Speaker 1: If you lose, you couldn't get it done. Just lose,
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Speaker 1: but wind lose, wind loser draw. John Zena will retire now,
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Speaker 1: not unlike most people retire wink wink, and they come
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Speaker 1: back years later. No, John Zine said, that's it, I'm done.
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Speaker 1: Happened now. He's still gonna be a part of w
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Speaker 1: WE A little like some ambassador stuff, some make wish stuff.
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Speaker 1: Might be a little producing here and there. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: because most wrestlers them, when they retire, they never really retire.
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Speaker 1: They just come back whenever later.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, wid announcing a truckload of upcoming shows. They got
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Speaker 4: Raw in Toronto January twenty sixth, of course, Saturday Night's
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Speaker 4: Main Events January twenty fourth, and SmackDown Uh January twenty third,
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Speaker 4: all in Canada. Yeah, umble Mania forty two to ever
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Speaker 4: turn in New Las Vegas. Then Russell MANI twenty three,
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Speaker 4: I mean forty three has done sady of course, Royal
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Speaker 4: Rumbo twenty twenty six is all and sold.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of stuff going down the gym is.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you's gonna battle a mystery opponent for the Johnston
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Speaker 4: tournas Now Tournament.
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Speaker 3: Johnsenor will also be completing defending the apparentlynship.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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Speaker 4: We don't know whose goals opponent is gonna be.
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Speaker 3: That was kept the secret, and.
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Speaker 1: That's good because like that that's how you sell, like
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Speaker 1: if you keep it a secret, like you keep all
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Speaker 1: hushed up, all hushed up, like nobody that nobody knows nothing,
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Speaker 1: like nobody knows nothing.
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Speaker 4: It's a mystery opponent for Early Night. Nickoll just didn't
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Speaker 4: reveal mm hmm.
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Speaker 1: Yahm.
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Speaker 3: And of course only n one not not.
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Speaker 1: I miss this kind of I miss that kind of
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Speaker 1: storytelling where people but nobody knows anything and it takes
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Speaker 1: everybody about surprise. I missed that. The best surprise, my
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Speaker 1: my favorite surprise. I remember H two out seventeen Roll
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Speaker 1: Rumble to Our seventeen, the women's roll rumble. Uh oscar
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Speaker 1: on one of the match and she's choosing between Alexa
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Speaker 1: Bliss or uh Charlotte and twenty eighteen and uh and
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Speaker 1: she's uh, she's making a choice, and all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: I don't give a damn. I'll give it damn by
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Speaker 1: my reputation plays and it's Randa Rousey. What the hell
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Speaker 1: is she doing here? And she she don't say a word.
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Speaker 1: Nobody says nothing, and she shape, she shaves. She about
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Speaker 1: to shakes hand. Oscar said sight and she's people points
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Speaker 1: to the rest of Maia sign I'm sorry, y'all. I'm sorry, y'all.
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Speaker 1: Myles tripping. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 5: Hang on one second, speak sorry by that, y'all.
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Speaker 1: My uh ain't gonna take it. David, I ain't gonna
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Speaker 1: take David, my uh, my app well, I gotta start over,
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Speaker 1: so you know, so you know, you know the story.
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Speaker 1: BLI know from now on, her name is Bliss, and
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Speaker 1: my athle is going off. Her name is Bliss from
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Speaker 1: now on on this show, her name is Bliss. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I like my ask going off. I'm sick of it.
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Speaker 1: Her name is blissed when I want anyway, yeah, because
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Speaker 1: my a is going off, like starting anyway. Ryder Rose
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Speaker 1: came and she about to shake Oscar's hand, said Sight.
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Speaker 1: She said, all right, I see how it is. I'm
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Speaker 1: seeing one of y'all. She didn't say that, but her
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Speaker 1: body all all the body. An just said that for
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Speaker 1: him and she pointed the Resumania sign. I'm seeing one
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Speaker 1: of y'all at WrestleMania, uh ship or the hearty. So
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Speaker 1: they came back. Nobody mad to that? No, No, nobody's
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Speaker 1: mead to that.
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Speaker 4: What about John C two thousand and eight inside Madison
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Speaker 4: Square Garden injured John her and turning earway from injury
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Speaker 4: and then went on the window match.
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Speaker 1: That's how you tell a story, man, Like if you
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Speaker 1: if you want real good, you want may you wanna
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Speaker 1: shock everybody? Don't don't. Don't give them everything all at once.
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Speaker 4: The ones you don't expect as.
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Speaker 1: It'll be actually this right yea. Uh, I talked to
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Speaker 1: young I talked to her, sent her message, Uh this indie wrestler.
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Speaker 1: I believe I won't get her name right if she
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Speaker 1: gets really upset with and wrong. Fallen Angel, Fallen Angel,
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Speaker 1: not falling falling Angel. If you haven't, if you have
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Speaker 1: not seen her off, if you have not seen her matches,
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Speaker 1: go on Facebook typing fallen Angel. Uh, you'll see on
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Speaker 1: talking about But she signed different promotions, like different emotions
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Speaker 1: here and there, and she takes bookings and like uh falling,
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Speaker 1: but she calls up the Falling Angel, Falling Gray f
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Speaker 1: A L L Y N Gray, Falling Gray, the Falling
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Speaker 1: Angel give it all right, so she takes She takes bookings,
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Speaker 1: which is cool.
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Speaker 5: After her message.
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Speaker 1: I say this in my as a long time wrestlers fan,
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Speaker 1: my opinion, I ask your opinion a second. You better
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Speaker 1: off in the contract that they're taking monthly bookings. Monthly
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Speaker 1: bookings is nice, but you got most of the word
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Speaker 1: is all. It is all on you, a contract you're
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Speaker 1: taking care of. What's your opinion?
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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, you're right. It depends on who you are, like.
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Speaker 4: You can make you can make a very good living
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Speaker 4: doing bookings.
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Speaker 3: Back again, it depends on who you are and your reputation.
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Speaker 3: So I agree with you, But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: you're a little bit long. It all depends on who
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Speaker 3: you are.
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Speaker 4: But you are right too, so you're not wrong and
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Speaker 4: you're not right right. For example, for example, if you're working.
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Speaker 3: At adies and you're taking bookings, and.
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Speaker 4: Let's say you get paid I don't know, six hundred dollars.
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Speaker 3: For that booking. Then you show up with your.
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Speaker 4: Merch your merchandise which is shut, and you.
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Speaker 3: Sell your merchandise, which they call the gimmick table, and
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Speaker 3: you make an extra six hundred dollars. You got yourself
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Speaker 3: over a thousand books in one night. So let's kind
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Speaker 3: of the stuff you deal with one angies and make
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Speaker 3: a little extra money. Now, the contracts are sort of.
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Speaker 4: Guaranteed what you're gonna make, and it's not like that
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Speaker 4: on the indies. Sure you getting, Yes, you're guaranteed whatever.
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Speaker 4: Uh Again, like I said before, for example, it's like, Okay,
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna make six hundred dollars. You're guaranteed that's six
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Speaker 4: hundred dollars. But what you're not guaranteed is how much
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Speaker 4: you're gonna make off your merchandise the gimmick table.
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Speaker 3: It depending on how much.
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Speaker 4: You make off that gimmick table, you're gonna leave out
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Speaker 4: of here with extra money.
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Speaker 3: And that's pretty much it for the indies.
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Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Ah, that was my take on its. Like
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Speaker 1: I've seen wrestless, most wrestlers struggle in the in the
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Speaker 1: indies scene. I'm like, see a contract with a contract,
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Speaker 1: would they kill you?
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Speaker 4: Like?
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Speaker 5: You get X amount dollars and how.
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Speaker 1: Often you get paid weekly? Monthly? Yeah? Weekly? But now
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Speaker 1: nowadays you get direct deposit back. Then you get paid,
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Speaker 1: then you get a payper check back then but now
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Speaker 1: you direct deposit like you x amount dollars a week,
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Speaker 1: rather than you doing all the work and you're doing
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Speaker 1: all the booking, and you're doing all this stuff. Will
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Speaker 1: take care of in the contract. Blah blah blah. Yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: every now and then, you got partnerships here and there,
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Speaker 1: but that takes care of you.
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Speaker 3: That's true.
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Speaker 1: Maagine is right here. Uh John Singer's retirement. Is it
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Speaker 1: a blessing or a curse or both?
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Speaker 4: I'd say it's a blessing because it gives off people
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Speaker 4: and opportunity to get opportunities.
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Speaker 3: They weren't given it. But then Garon Jones has been
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Speaker 3: a part timer for a long time.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, a very long time.
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Speaker 3: Someone is not there.
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Speaker 4: It's just an opportunity for somebody else and step up.
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Speaker 1: Mhm.
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Speaker 3: Giving the opportunity.
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Speaker 1: As I'm gonna take it. I'm taking away not way
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Speaker 1: bad but uh a few years ago, not for ninety
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Speaker 1: few years ago, two thousand and two. Uh, all of
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Speaker 1: all our top dogs. This is gonna it's almost sound
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Speaker 1: like a like a uh like like a bie like
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Speaker 1: a biography. So y'all been with me. Uh, two thousand
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Speaker 1: and two, all the top dogs are leaving. The rocket
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Speaker 1: is the rock is going Hollywood. Uh, Austin took his
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Speaker 1: ball and went home on the take. He's still was,
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Speaker 1: but you know he's uh he's yeah. Well in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and two, just rocking Austin, I think, yeah, barking
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Speaker 1: Austin and miss Sell. I need to step it up.
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Speaker 5: It's time this areor about to go into I need
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Speaker 5: I need somebody to take take.
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Speaker 1: The ball and roun with it. We're just coming out
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Speaker 1: the the attitude are going to the disgression era. I
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Speaker 1: need somebody wrong with this thing. A young John Zena
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Speaker 1: stuff up. See I got you two thousand and three,
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Speaker 1: John Zena, you about to get fired until yeah, until
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Speaker 1: the doctors the economics thing came out. They're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: you say Jays. And from that day till now, John's
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Speaker 1: been John's been the top dog. John John has been
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Speaker 1: like the face.
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Speaker 4: Yeahs is like I'm the states that runs the place.
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Speaker 4: Oh that was a cool Rogerie and the two had
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Speaker 4: to volver a match a Crown jewel.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
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Speaker 3: Speaking of Crown jewel, we got the Survivor Service.
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Speaker 5: Uh, we know the.
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Speaker 4: Men and Women's Survivor Series War Games match will.
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Speaker 3: Be five on five. Uh.
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Speaker 4: Both teams need to get one more person to complete
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Speaker 4: their teams.
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Speaker 3: For the men, as does the women.
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Speaker 4: I know technically they say shore watch the team, but
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Speaker 4: come on, we all know she's coming.
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Speaker 1: Back, yeah for SmackDown. The reason why it's supposed to
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Speaker 1: be why is six against MLT. But the reason why, well,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'll tell you what you say it is,
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Speaker 1: see it, I'm telling you. So the reason why because
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Speaker 1: m T is all, it would have been six has
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Speaker 1: one woman. It would have been all these men is
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Speaker 1: one woman. So we're gonna take the match to make
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Speaker 1: it all men. That's why he changed it. Because why
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Speaker 1: it's six, it would have been old girl what's her name? Uh,
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Speaker 1: Niki Cross and the other guys against m LT.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense because there's only four guys in
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Speaker 4: the White six. You take Nikki out and replace him
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Speaker 4: with somebody to join the team.
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Speaker 3: That's all.
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Speaker 1: It's what they did, not what they did, but they
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Speaker 1: just changed it. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, they're gonna battle the machine guns and Sammy and
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Speaker 4: a Survivor Series match on the last SmackDown before Savavacies.
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Speaker 4: But anyway, going back to the Wargames matches, well we
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Speaker 4: only note there's only two matches and made for savavas service.
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Speaker 4: So far they're gonna add three more matches. Ever, since
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Speaker 4: it's TKO stuff every pay per viewers from five matches,
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Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense to me is.
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Speaker 3: Why are you having a two hour pre show.
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Speaker 4: For a pay per view it only has five matches?
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Speaker 3: Makes no sense. And I've seen cron Jell's pre show
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Speaker 3: with two hours.
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Speaker 1: I was like, one word to this.
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Speaker 4: You don't need a two hour pre show for a
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Speaker 4: painting view that has five notches.
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Speaker 3: Just give it a dollar and that's it. Mm hmmm.
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Speaker 3: So you can do thirty minutes pre show for.
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Speaker 1: A five mm hmm.
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Speaker 3: I'm that serious, not that serious at all.
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Speaker 4: It's a lot of little things that I don't like
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Speaker 4: that you're doing that they shouldn't.
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Speaker 3: Do at all.
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Speaker 1: Well, I tell you, ladies, gentlemen there, if you want
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Speaker 1: to do something about it, what you can do is
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Speaker 1: go for being a fan to be a shareholder. And
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Speaker 1: what you how you do that is you invest like
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Speaker 1: your dollar math like I mean something around here. So
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Speaker 1: what you do I do it. So I do do
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Speaker 1: cash up. So you go to cash up. You could
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Speaker 1: go a homepage right there is it gon stocks right,
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Speaker 1: you type in TKO ko group. We used to be
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Speaker 1: w B you buy, you could gone buy you got.
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Speaker 1: You can put a dollar in ten dollars, twenty dollars,
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Speaker 1: fifty dollars, one hundred with those three dots right there.
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Speaker 1: Whatever you're willing to risk, put that in, fill the
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Speaker 1: thing out, press okay, boom.
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Speaker 5: You are a shareholder.
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Speaker 1: Within w w E. Now every every now and then,
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Speaker 1: I don't know altim we do it the earner's call.
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Speaker 1: Call in to the earner's call, and you get You
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Speaker 1: can hear from the horses mouth themselves and the powers
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Speaker 1: that be what's going on. Instead of wondering from a
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Speaker 1: fan's perspective, what you think is gonna happen. So instead
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Speaker 1: of being a fan and wondering and make all these
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Speaker 1: because all these theories, you can know for sure, you
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Speaker 1: call them, call them the earner's call, and hear from
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Speaker 1: the powers that be themselves and will tell you what's
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Speaker 1: gonna happen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can be secret listening.
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Speaker 1: But most people won't do that. So fans when they
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Speaker 1: complain you complain and you yeah, fans complaining, they complain
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Speaker 1: for us. In your complaining, do jack squat or you
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Speaker 1: can do something about it. Take your dollars, invest in
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Speaker 1: the company, complain about and like like it matters around here.
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Speaker 1: Until you do such things, your complaining means absolutely nothing
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Speaker 1: and changes nothing.
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Speaker 4: Do what they want.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you just sit there
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Speaker 1: and complain.
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Speaker 4: That's all they can.
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Speaker 3: It's not gonna listen to a son mm hm.
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, the powers that be
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Speaker 4: You're gonna do with the powers that be.
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Speaker 3: You want to prepare.
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Speaker 1: Well at the gym. I'm we got a few business
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Speaker 1: take care of a little bit. First of all, my
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Speaker 1: favorite time of the year on free form right now,
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Speaker 1: in fact, right now, it's thirty days of Disney every
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Speaker 1: animated movie, all the classics, all all the new stuff
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Speaker 1: right now and this and that, and then that's gonna
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Speaker 1: slide us in to my favorite time of the year.
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Speaker 5: Twenty five days of Christmas, every single movie. Check this out.
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Speaker 1: Every single day leading to uh Christmas, Christmas.
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Speaker 5: Day, and maybe a little bit a little over afterwards.
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Speaker 1: Twenty five days of Christmas h December first, January twenty fifth,
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Speaker 1: on free Forum.
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Speaker 3: M hm and they have several several classics on that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we all to take care of little business
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Speaker 1: rights here as well. We're right back, mhm.
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Speaker 3: H.
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Speaker 1: I don't get very much by the way that Jim
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Speaker 1: and rawls in a few minutes U right now, it
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Speaker 1: was about six forty. We got little time setting the clock.
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Speaker 1: I want you, I want you to over there New
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Speaker 1: York getting ready.
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Speaker 5: It's gonna be cool.
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Speaker 1: If you're live in the building. You got a great time.
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Speaker 1: Right now. They're doing, uh, they're doing they should be
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Speaker 1: doing main event and uh some other they they do
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Speaker 1: feelers until the show.
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Speaker 3: I think it's main event John match.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dar Imagin is the main event right now until
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Speaker 1: seven o'clock. So you guys enjoy that if you're in
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Speaker 1: the building. Otherwise you got a few minutes. You got time.
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Speaker 5: Go to Netflix, click on Netflix.
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Speaker 1: And enjoy Monday Night Raw Live from New York City,
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Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden.
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Speaker 3: I's right, everybody.
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Speaker 1: Care in July, I got very much. Everybody see it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. David