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Ep. 3886 The REAL Reasons Behind Operation Epic Fury EXPOSED! · Turley Talks

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  [SPEAKER_00]: Today I wanted to talk about some of the objections to the war, and I wanted to situate
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and answer those objections in light of this rising sort of siffcosm framework that we've been talking a lot about because I've been making the argument that this really is the first siffcosm or civilization, cosmocracy, uh, war, uh, we're Theo politics, techno politics and astral politics all come together and combine and reveal themselves and just the extraordinarily unique dynamics of what's happening in this war.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And ironically, even a lot of the objections to this war and they're perfectly valid, they're not being unreasonable these objections.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: For sure, nobody likes war, but I do think that they are being put forward within a frame of reference that the war has largely rendered obsolete.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the arguments against this war are drawing from a world that just doesn't exist anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's really, in my opinion, that's really key to understand what's going on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I just wanted to give you a few examples of that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So for example, what I'm hearing a lot from the dissident who are arguing that Trump has betrayed his base and so far, I'm not going to get into the polls I've already talked about that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've probably saw the Harry Endton CNN poll.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it was an NBC poll that they use.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: where Trump had a hundred percent approval, literally.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this was like Kim Jong-un kind of stuff, hundred percent approval among his megabase.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so there's what many in the dissident podcast world or saying is just simply not true there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But somewhat argue that this is just neoconservatism with a
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You're seeing it on the left, you're seeing it on more the isolationist, right, the libertarians are arguing that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's the accusation that Trump is surrounded himself with, you know, like Israeli-aligned hawkish neocons and he just got sucked into the neocon playbook.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a rock 2.0.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is George Bush 2.0.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the objection sounds compelling until you examine what Neo Conservatism actually was.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And I intentionally use the past tense there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Neo Conservative Project was at its core a universalist project.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's very important to get.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was the belief that American military power combined with liberal democracy could usher in what Frank Fukuyama called the end of history, right, where the whole of human history has finally found the one true political and economic system to unite the world in, and that's liberal democracy in the advent of the liberal international order.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They appeal to institutions like the UN Security Council, the multilateral coalition, the post-war democratic reconstructions of things like the IMF, the WTO, and so forth.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you remember, in the run-up to the Iraq War,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: a colon pal had presented before the UN Security Council an entire justification for why they should, why our forces should invade Iraq.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It obviously turned out to be incredibly flawed, but they knew they couldn't go into Iraq without UN approval.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They knew they
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  [SPEAKER_00]: democracy was the export, the liberal international order was the frame.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That world is dead.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That world doesn't even exist.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Operation epic fury could care less with the UN Security Council thought.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, the UN Secretary General condemned the operation immediately.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't care.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The WTO wasn't invoked, the IMF wasn't invoked, the EU wasn't invoked, NATO wasn't even invoked.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Trump administration did not launch this war through the liberal international order.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He waged over the objections, over its objections, and over its ruins.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the operative logic of operational epic fury is not universal democracy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's civilizational security, and that's what you've got to get.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is why this is just neocon.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's not even remotely neoconist.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually more jacksonian for in policy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Note, no greater friend and no worse enemy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we defend our allies by knocking out our enemies and we don't care what government those enemies set up.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They just better not mess with us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They better play by our defined rules.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Not some abstract.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: systematic liberal international order rule, rules based on, I know, those days are over.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a civilizationalist world now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the defense of the specific arc of civilizational allies, Israel, the Gulf States, India, Japan, as over and against China, remember this all about weakening China, particularly economically and militaristically in terms of their
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  [SPEAKER_00]: influence through their proxy of Iran that they were financing in the in the Gulf.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's by weakening it's all meant to weaken China and strengthen Japan, guess who Trump's meeting with today, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Takiichi, Prime Minister Takiichi of Sona, Takiichi, and of Japan.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And they're strengthening out and by the way, who's just what are they?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a third, just
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  [SPEAKER_00]: a whole new treaty where an agreement where they're taking a buying up $30 billion of our oil straight from Alaska rather than from the Middle East.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's absolutely astonishing stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's about a defense of our specific arc of civilization, our networked multiplicity.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: against a theocratic revolutionary regime that was in effect serving as China's proxy in the region.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's gotten nothing to do with neocons.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If anything, Trump has converted the neocons into becoming jacksonians.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the most logical position to have in increasingly civilisations
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's a second objection, and that's that Trump was dupped by Israel.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the Tucker Carlson objection.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where Joe Kent just went to, and that is exploiting a very real Jewish lobby, very well funded Jewish lobby.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That has, in the past, certainly I've talked about it often, following John Mirchheimer's work, successfully swayed, U.S. strategic decision-making, and steered it towards policies that favored Israel's interest and this is key, this is absolutely key, as over and against Arab interests.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Gotta get that, that's the critique.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a certain specific historical period where the United States was navigating a Middle East, which Israel was diplomatically isolated, and where embracing their interests meant that we were structurally at odds with those of the Sunirabworld.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So doing the bidding of Israel meant that we were acting against the preferences of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and Egypt and Jordan and Gulf States as a whole.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That world doesn't exist.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That structural reality simply no longer exists.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is my biggest problem with the dissident right podcast world right now.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're just, they're not keeping up with the world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And they're just living in a different world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And hence why they sound, they sound like broken records and they just sound so complaining and whiny
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Abraham Accords changed that world fundamentally.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, right now, as we speak, the SUNY Arab world has joined forces at least rhetorically with Israel.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a world we could never even have the magic.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the GCC, the Gulf Country cooperation,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They issued a unanimous statement condemning Iran.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And they are 100% behind Israel's mission to completely defang Iran.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They're 100% behind, again, this world just didn't exist back in 2003.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Certainly didn't exist in 2001 in the first Gulf War where Israel had to sit out, even though they were getting attacked by Saddam who's saying scuds.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They had to sit out because the moment they started flying sorties into Iraq, all of a sudden the Gulf state coalition that Bush senior had built would fracture because they couldn't by definition, couldn't fight with Israel.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Abraham Accords forever erased that world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, at least hopefully forever erased that world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So to say that Trump is doing Israel's bidding in this war is
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Mohammed bin Salman's bidding and Qatar's bidding and the UAE's bidding and Bahrain's bidding.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's an argument that collapses under the way to the new civilizational architecture that unfortunately it refuses to say.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then there's a third objection and that is that you can't topple the regime without ground troops.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is simply the ghost of 2003, continuing to haunt us and, you know, in many ways rightly so.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the bottom line is they're just saying you can't, you can't affect regime change without actually taking, you know, physically taking down their their flag, you're going to need troops to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, that's when we deploy 300,000 troops to and to invade Iraq.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, you have to understand just from a practical perspective, that is numerically impossible for us as a nation.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Iran is three times the size of Iraq.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: four times the population.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So we would need one probably around 1.2 million troops to invade.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We do not have a force today.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we could, if we wanted to, a massive, but that's not what's in the Gulf right now and there's no plans to do that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What has happened is that's changed the entire equation is that sent 23 years after Operation Iraqi Freedom, we now live in a techno-polar moment.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: where those who control the technological stradden are the ones who are increasingly controlling the world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so I mean, it's astonishing in the first 24 hours of Operation Epic Fury.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The United States struck double the number of targets that opened the entire rock war.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and not with masked armored columns, but with B2 stealth bombers guided by AI targeting systems, processing satellite feeds in real time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You remember the kill chain back in 2003 could take months between what we got from the satellite of the satellite feeds to all the intelligence,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: analysis that it had to go through in order that month long kill train is done literally in the split second today with AI.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The Pentagon's explicit design for this war is one fought without American boots on Iranian soil, a decapitate and delegate architecture, not even
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  [SPEAKER_00]: technology has made physical occupation, territories strategically unnecessary.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So take, for example, the Lucas drone drone warfare is just changing everything and Iran knows that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: As a matter of fact, it's ironic that a lot of the again sort of dissident
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  [SPEAKER_00]: social media world saying, oh, Ron's winning because they've got these drones, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's the Lucas drone that we have as a reverse engineer is Iranian, Shahed drone built by an American startup for $35,000 per unit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's AI-guided, autonomous drone under Starlink navigation.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's achieving its targeting effects
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That would have required back in 2003 special operation forces to be actually in the territory.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't need that anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's literally flown by people from operators, you know, miles upon miles away from Iranian border as well as by AI.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so, again, you're dealing with a technology, a robotic technology that's increasingly rendering physical boots on the ground.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: um as obsolescent.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the era of where we need boots on the ground to achieve these goals is an objection that really is nothing more than a fossil or the era is over and it's rendering that objection of fossil.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And then my fourth and final one here is you know well we're only
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In the end, we're only delaying things because Russian China are going to re-build Iran.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what's known as the objection to the non-proliferation establishment.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The arms control scholars, the IAA veterans, the foreign affairs, essays, who were just all good for nothing to be quite honest with you.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But they know, in the end, we saw it with Saddam Hussein's Iraq after 1991.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen it with Syria, we saw it again and again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what we do to Iran, they've got the engineers, the supply chains, the institution knowledge, the heart and underground structure to rebuild.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: they're going to sustain this, it's going to be rough, but they will eventually rebuild, and of course China and Russia will help them to rebuild.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, in any previous era of warfare, that objection would have been very decisive, and it still would be if it weren't for the orbital layer.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It weren't, if it weren't for the satellites, the fact that we have the
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  [SPEAKER_00]: is now we have continuous space space surveillance at a resolution and persistence that no previous generation of military planners has ever, ever possessed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the National Reconnaissance Office that operates in concert with U.S. Space Command
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now provides real-time intelligence coverage of Iranian territory around the clock 24-7, every truck convoy, every cement pour, every new excavation, every centrifuge shipment moving across, open ground is visible from orbit within literally minutes of its occurrence.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Iran can't reconstitute a dispersed nuclear program under tarps, and in tunnels without generating a detectable signature that an American orbital assets find, and again, this is the key immediately.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So the age in which a regime could rebuild a covert weapons program in the gaps between satellite
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Calculating the orbital windows moving assets in the dark that those days are just over again.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not 2003 anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The constellation now the again we have over 10,000 satellites up there.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The constellation is now just to dense it's to persistent and to integrate it with AI driven pattern recognition for those gaps to exist in a meaningful scale and that AI pattern.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: AI-driven pattern recognition doubles in its capacity, literally every month.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And of course, then there's Starlink, 6,000 of those satellites are Starlink satellites.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And what happened is, you know,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We've been able to more or less penetrate Iran's attempts at trying to keep its people from the outside world, from outside information.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What we've been able to do is we've been able to smuggle in all kinds of
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  [SPEAKER_00]: routers and so forth to so the people can can avail themselves of Starlink and be able to get information out to the outside world and also draw in information from the outside world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So there's really nothing
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  [SPEAKER_00]: comparable today to the old, you know, 1991 world where you kind of bum, you know, Baghdad, the smithereens, and then Sonom just spends the next 10 years rebuilding with the help of Russians and Chinese and so forth.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they can do that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But they will be immediately called out for it just like we saw over the last year after we bombed him back in June of 2025 and Trump's immediate so they're they're back at it again trying to rebuild their nuclear capabilities and he's like guys.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: if you didn't get the message that time, you will get the message this time.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: You can't do anything in secret anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: We see everything.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this is why I say in many ways, this is a war like no other.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: What what the critics miss in every case across every objection was not a fact.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a frame.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They were measuring this war against the templates of the world that actually preceded it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The neocon world, the israel lobby world, the industrial warfare world, the pre-orbital world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And in every case, the war, this war, refused to fit those worlds.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It kept exceeding the template.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It keeps operating in registers that the old vocabulary has no words for.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why I think it's so important for us to understand that what's happening here is a war like no other because it's revealing a very new world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And ironically, a very ancient world because at the heart of that world is the opolitics, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is, you're hearing me say this a lot in my videos.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a religious war, not like the old medieval,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: conquering kind of, you know, one religion over another religion kind of thing, but in terms of civilizational alliances.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is an Abrahamic alliance versus a Shiite alliance.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: When you bring in the Hezbollah on the Houthis and come, well, Hamasis is Sunni, but they're part of that alliance and the Iraqi Shiites.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is a religious war between two very different civilization or alliances.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and make no mistake.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's being fought in the techno-polar stratham and at the astro-polar stratham.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And so it's astonishing.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very star-warzy like
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  [SPEAKER_00]: World, that's rising.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A highly religious, technological, and astrological world, incredible stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I don't call it so much a world order as much as an orbital order and it's only going to continue to escalate, not the war itself, but that orbital order with lunar bases, space stations, and what they're already talking about terraforming Mars within five years.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: and not us, not humans, but robots.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's an AI, it's crazy, but it's happening.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And we're at the cutting edge of it as Rush Limbo used to say, the cutting edge is the side of evolution.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So there you go, there's four objections, I think, again, meant in good faith, but I think our rendered obsolete given the new orbital order that is rising and the shift
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