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He's BACK! David Yontef From Behind The Velvet Rope Chats All Things Reality TV · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: real conversations in a new language today. Welcome back to Misunderstood.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rachel Yucatel. Today we have David Yontiff
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  Speaker 1: from Behind the Velvet Rope again. Normally we don't do
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  Speaker 1: shows like this, but I wanted to do what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: hot topics, and the only person that I could possibly
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  Speaker 1: think of doing this with is Mr. Yontiff right here.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for joining me again. We had such
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  Speaker 1: a fun time last episode. We got so many comments
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  Speaker 1: and likes from it, so we're a pretty good team.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I could... give you all the things I'm
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  Speaker 2: misunderstood about. One day I'm here if you want, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I fit in the misunderstood, but yes, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for the hot topics. Thank you for inviting. What
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  Speaker 2: an honor to be in. Am I your first return guest?
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  Speaker 2: You are. Oh my gosh. Before we get started, I
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  Speaker 2: have to ask you a question.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. This is Okay, so the thing is, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you know this, but I'm looking at what
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  Speaker 2: you're wearing. First of all, I love, what pants are these?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so yeah, these are Alvin Valley. He's known as
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  Speaker 1: the king of pants. I wear his pants almost every
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  Speaker 1: time I shoot different ones, obviously. But I love how
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  Speaker 1: hot the colors are. I have a yellow, I have
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  Speaker 1: a pink, I have a blue, I have a black.
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  Speaker 1: And he makes pants better than anyone else. So anyone
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  Speaker 1: that needs a good pair of pants, go to Alvin Valley.
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  Speaker 1: He has a store in Palm Beach. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be in the Hamptons this summer. So, and
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  Speaker 1: he makes them made to order. So they are fitting
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  Speaker 1: for your body.
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  Speaker 2: Come and find me in the Hamptons. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a lot of listeners for my own podcast,
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  Speaker 2: Behind the Velvet Rope. So if he wants to do
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  Speaker 2: a custom pair, I'll give him a free shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let him know.
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  Speaker 2: But this is, I just noticed the pants look gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: I pay for mine. So maybe I should be asking
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  Speaker 1: for a deal now that I gave him the shout out.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the deal. So I notice your jewelry. I
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  Speaker 2: notice your necklace. I see this, there's a star, but
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  Speaker 2: I see a lightning bolt. Do you know what a
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  Speaker 2: lightning bolt is?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't know this? No. It's because you don't
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  Speaker 1: watch– Does it mean I'm a swinger?
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  Speaker 2: It means that I think you've– did you ever have
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  Speaker 2: an affair with Tom Sandoval?
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding?
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  Speaker 2: The lightning bolt.
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  Speaker 1: He's not my type. Let's just start there. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I went to see Tom Sandoval in
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  Speaker 2: the Most Extras in concert last week. This week, did
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  Speaker 2: you see the body?
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  Speaker 1: I did see the body.
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  Speaker 2: Revenge body.
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  Speaker 1: It is a revenge body, but he's totally not my type.
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't get it. I don't get why everyone's
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  Speaker 1: so up in arms. especially over him. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: to me is just an odd person to be like
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  Speaker 1: so obsessed with either hating or loving. He kind of
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  Speaker 1: seems like in the middle for me, but he does
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  Speaker 1: have a good body. But he's one of the worst
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  Speaker 1: singers I've ever heard. Why does he have a band?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, but the thing is him and Raquel,
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  Speaker 2: when they were having the seven-month affair, they gave each
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  Speaker 2: other lightning bolt necklaces. And nobody noticed it. But then
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  Speaker 2: it's like he has one and she has one. That
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  Speaker 2: was like their secret code.
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  Speaker 1: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: So I swear to God.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so me wearing a lightning bolt, you think I've
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  Speaker 1: had an affair with Tom Sandoval?
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  Speaker 2: Are you sure?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not.
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  Speaker 2: He has one and you have one. So I need
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  Speaker 2: to know if you had an affair. Has Rachel, you
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  Speaker 2: could tell, had an affair with Tom Sandoval? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I definitely would stay far away from that one.
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  Speaker 2: He's not your type for lots of reasons. He's my type.
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  Speaker 2: Is he?
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  Speaker 1: Why is that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just like a body. I'm really, there's nothing,
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing here. There's no substance to me.
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  Speaker 1: I like the substance.
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  Speaker 2: You do?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I'm really into that. So what was
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  Speaker 1: it like seeing him in concert?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. This is a real true story. I'm doing a
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  Speaker 2: whole show and a whole episode on my podcast about this.
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  Speaker 2: I brought three friends. One of them does not watch Bravo.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, when I say bring, I mean like
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  Speaker 2: they had to buy tickets, but they were $ 25. One
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  Speaker 2: of them does not watch Bravo. The other two do.
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  Speaker 2: The other two are like weak. Cannot believe we're going.
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  Speaker 2: But it was like a night out. I'm like, you'll
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  Speaker 2: come with me. We'll have drinks. We'll have fun. The
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  Speaker 2: whole day, this is miserable. I can't believe if anyone
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  Speaker 2: sees us there, we're so embarrassed. We get there. ABC
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  Speaker 2: News is outside. They're like, if that camera points near
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  Speaker 2: my direction one more time, I'm hyperventilating. I actually ended
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  Speaker 2: up talking to it because they recognized me. And they're like,
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  Speaker 2: aren't you in like the podcast? This is what you do,
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  Speaker 2: a Bravo podcast. I'm like, all right, I'll speak to
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  Speaker 2: you as long as you could say Bravo, you know,
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  Speaker 2: behind the veil.
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  Speaker 1: Who were the kind of people that were there?
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  Speaker 2: Was it packed? It was okay. Well, I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: show this thing online, Long Island. No one's there. It
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  Speaker 2: was busier than I would have thought based on all
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  Speaker 2: this hype. It's cover band. So they sing like Rosanna.
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  Speaker 2: They sing like Journey. They sing songs. Oh, I love those.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to tell you. It really covers 80s, 90s,
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  Speaker 2: and like early 2000s. They did Outkast. Yes. What? So
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  Speaker 2: then he's there. And then the shirt eventually comes off.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, when we left, I figured, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: We all walk outside. My two friends, the two that
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  Speaker 2: watch it, they're like, independently, they haven't talked about this.
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  Speaker 2: They're both madly in love with Tom Sandoval. No way. Cannot.
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  Speaker 2: We've been texting all week. Probably the best concert of
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  Speaker 2: our life. I mean, we're obviously making a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a joke out of it. It's not their best concert.
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  Speaker 2: But they're like, should we go to the DC show?
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  Speaker 2: Where else is he playing? It's changed their lives. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: But that little clip I saw of him singing, was
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  Speaker 1: that just a bad clip? Is he a good cover artist?
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  Speaker 2: I thought he was a good singer. I think I
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  Speaker 2: sent you Rosanna by Toto.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I will go to the next one with you.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 1: Did you actually meet him? Did you say hello?
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  Speaker 2: I have a picture. I've put multiple pictures with him. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ask him any questions?
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  Speaker 2: Before the show, some of us in the industry were
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  Speaker 2: able to go back, but he doesn't know what you're
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  Speaker 2: in the industry. And I was like, should I mention
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  Speaker 2: my whole point of being here is an actual Bravo podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which I did because I felt good vibe. Then he
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  Speaker 2: was like kind of taking it back. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 2: is all off the record. Don't worry. I mean, of
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  Speaker 2: course it isn't.
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  Speaker 1: Except for now we're talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Except for now. You know, listen, I asked a lot
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  Speaker 2: about it. I didn't say how's Raquel because she really
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  Speaker 2: is in a mental facility. Now, no one has seen her,
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  Speaker 2: so we don't know that for sure.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by a mental facility?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's where it gets– some people are– look at it.
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  Speaker 2: She's keeping a low profile. We don't know where she is.
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  Speaker 2: He says she's at a true mental facility. No visitors,
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  Speaker 2: no phone, no contact with the outside world, not a spot.
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  Speaker 1: Why would she need to be at a mental facility?
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  Speaker 2: I think– well– Unlike you, who the whole world came
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  Speaker 2: for after you had relations with a certain someone. And
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  Speaker 2: you understand. And if you're not, you don't know who
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  Speaker 2: you are inside. And the whole world hates you and
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  Speaker 2: is saying things. And imagine that. Would you be okay
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  Speaker 2: if all that happened now with Instagram and social?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's a good question because... It happened
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  Speaker 1: to me exactly how it's happening to her, right? People
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  Speaker 1: just absolutely hate her and she's getting a lot of
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  Speaker 1: negative comments. And for her to turn on her phone
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  Speaker 1: and see that in social media or even just to
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  Speaker 1: hear how people are writing about her, it's really, really hard.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what things you do in your life,
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  Speaker 1: maybe mistakes, maybe things you don't regret, but it sounds
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  Speaker 1: to me like they didn't regret what happened between them,
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  Speaker 1: but people are not obviously liking her decisions, right? it
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  Speaker 1: is so hard when people are so judgmental and awful
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  Speaker 1: and almost violent towards you. I mean, we saw the
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  Speaker 1: clips of the reunion and you see just in those clips,
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  Speaker 1: the anger and people standing up and yelling at her
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  Speaker 1: and calling her names and being so awful. And to
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  Speaker 1: Tom too. I mean, I feel like in my situation,
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  Speaker 1: the man didn't get a lot of flack. It took
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  Speaker 1: this long for people to to start to maybe think
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  Speaker 1: the man that I was involved with has some issues
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  Speaker 1: and it wasn't just the women.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's been some new developments in that area too,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of hot topics.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say if I had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: go away and get some help for whatever I was
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  Speaker 1: dealing with, with my self-esteem, I probably would have taken it.
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  Speaker 1: How I took it was I went on celebrity rehab.
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  Speaker 1: That was a real moment for me, a real three
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  Speaker 1: weeks where I became a recluse I couldn't leave my house.
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  Speaker 1: I was super depressed. I lost everybody in my life.
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  Speaker 1: And I was with Dr. Drew and eight or seven
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  Speaker 1: other people for three weeks and dealt with the feelings.
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  Speaker 1: Not that situation, but I dealt with what that's like to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be so hated and why I was so hated.
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  Speaker 1: But it stemmed way further back in my life. So
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  Speaker 1: I dealt with my life issues. So if she's doing that,
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  Speaker 1: I totally get it. And more recently, like in 2000,
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  Speaker 1: I checked myself into The Meadows. to deal with my
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  Speaker 1: post-traumatic stress disorder from September 11th, from being in a
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  Speaker 1: huge scandal that people like we're talking about hated me.
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  Speaker 2: And still want to talk about to this day.
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  Speaker 1: And still want to talk about and shame me for
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  Speaker 1: to this day. It's really hard to take on my
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  Speaker 1: own guilt. But everyone else's anger about how it triggers them,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot to handle. So I think if she
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  Speaker 1: is in a mental facility, I wouldn't call it a
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  Speaker 1: mental facility. I would think it's some sort of a rehab,
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  Speaker 1: even though, you know, you don't have to be an
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  Speaker 1: alcoholic or a drug user to go into rehab. If
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  Speaker 1: she's taking time for herself, that's great. But the anger
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  Speaker 1: that has, you know, that has come out of the scandal,
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  Speaker 1: I really don't understand. That entire cast was based on
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  Speaker 1: cheating and not being … loyal kind of. And so
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  Speaker 1: I still don't get the level of anger that comes
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  Speaker 1: from these former cheaters. Do you? No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I cover this so many times. As
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  Speaker 2: you know, Behind the Velvet Rope is a three-day-a-week interview podcast.
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  Speaker 2: In the other two days, we do hot topics like this.
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  Speaker 2: So five days a week. Scandival is like every– it's
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  Speaker 2: always– it's one of my hot topics just because people
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  Speaker 2: want– I don't understand it at all.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like I– Why haven't people.
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  Speaker 1: Moved on to a different scenario?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping. I am hoping now, look, I don't
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  Speaker 2: wish harm upon anyone, but now that Kim and Kroy
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  Speaker 2: are getting divorced, my DMs are like, when are you
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about this next week? We're finally talking
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  Speaker 2: about it. I'm like, this doesn't even shock me either,
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  Speaker 2: but this shocks me more and I'm more invested in
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  Speaker 2: A woman that came on smoking cigarettes, cursing, was with
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  Speaker 2: Big Papa, now is with Croy. Like, and has found
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  Speaker 2: what seemed to be love. There was a whole spinoff show.
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  Speaker 2: Has four kids with this man. Has two kids of
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  Speaker 2: her own. Everyone knows. This, to me, is way more.
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  Speaker 2: And now has, like, all these money problems. This is, like,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: This is a real scenario.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what happened with them was, with Tom Sandoval
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  Speaker 1: and his two women, was obviously a real scenario. But, like...
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  Speaker 1: Kim and Croy, to me, this is like a marriage
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  Speaker 1: falling apart and people were really invested in what they portrayed.
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  Speaker 1: So what is your opinion on the divorce news with
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  Speaker 1: Kim and Croy?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I didn't believe it. Well, no, I
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  Speaker 2: believed it was a divorce, but I really thought it
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  Speaker 2: was like a legal play for financial reasons. Interesting. Because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they each owe about a million dollars, which I, Lala,
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  Speaker 2: have spoken out against them, as has Bethany. And I
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  Speaker 2: agree with both. They both have something to say. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I agree with both of you on this.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning what?
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Well, Lala has come out and said,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this really kind of puts the nail in
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  Speaker 2: my coffin of like, why have a partner? I've been
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  Speaker 2: saying that for years. I'm available. People can slip into
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  Speaker 2: my DMs.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: Meaning she thought they were the end-all be-all of reality
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  Speaker 1: TV marriages?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think her own situation, Scandival, and now Kim
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  Speaker 2: and Croy... You know, listen, I feel it's– I have
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  Speaker 2: a jaded view of relationships. I think I have an
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  Speaker 2: adult view of relationships. So she's just like, what's the point?
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  Speaker 2: I'm thrilled– not bitter. I'm thrilled with my own life.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like the best partner and I love my life.
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  Speaker 2: I misunderstood.
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• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Kind of agree with all that. And then Bethany, yeah,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you'd like to say something?
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I just want to say that that seems ….
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: You're going to say that's bullshit. You're hiding something. No.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: You're really unhappy.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: You need therapy. You have to get to the root
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: of your issues. No.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I was going to say people get divorced all the time.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: They had a long run for them. How long were
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: they married?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I think 11 years. Okay.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: So they had a long run and … People fall
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: out of love, people, when they have financial problems, that
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: causes a lot of tension, a lot of anger, a
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: lot of blame. We don't know what the actual reasoning
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: is for their divorce, but it could have been coming
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: for a lot of years. She did a lot of spending.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: She kind of changed him a little bit, you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: in the years that you see Croy develop or whatever.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: And her kids have completely morphed and changed. And maybe
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: they just, you know, there are obviously issues that we
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: don't know. We can only speculate, but people get divorced
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know why that puts the
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: coffin in somebody not believing in relationships. That seems a little.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Odd to me. I just already, for me, it didn't
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: put the nail in it. I just already felt this way. Like, okay,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: welcome to it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I agree. I'm cynical about relationships for my
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: own reasons, but not because people in reality TV don't work.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: And by the way, now it's rumored. This is breaking.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Like in 24 hours, we might find
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: out something else. But a rumor is that she's also
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: been seeing this older gentleman with lots of money.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Well, that would be, you know, par for the course
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: for her, right?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: That's why. Now I'm like, oh. Like, it went from, like,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: what happened to, like, is Kim just, I mean, trash? Like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: is she just going from one to the next to
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the next just for money? I guess that doesn't make
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: you trash. I guess that's harsh. I should take that back,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Kim Zolciak. But it just, I don't know. Like, we
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: met her that way with Big Papa. Listen, I understand it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not judging because I really am not. I don't
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: judge anyone. It's just more like, I don't know what,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know why that's disappointing to me. Yeah. If
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that's why. It's more like, I don't know, I guess
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: like we thought you really fell in love.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: That might not be the cause. That might be who
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: she's with now.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: I'm all about dating wealthy and like I am no
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: one to judge anyone. I'm just like, I thought maybe
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: she was so in love with Croy. Yeah.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Well, he's hot.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: He's super hot.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's hot. You know what I mean?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have Tom Sandoval.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. Back on that one again.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I'd rather have Tom Sandoval. So, I mean, I guess–
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: and then Bethany went on a rant of, which I agree. Listen,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I love material things. I mean, I'm all about spend it,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: have multiple cars, have– I mean, I'm all about conspicuous consumption.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Let's spend like it's the 80s, guys. Not if you
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: don't have it. Yeah. So Bethany went on a rant
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: like pay your fucking bills and this is what's wrong
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: with America and what's wrong with the world is that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: people just, I don't understand that. You go out, you
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: spend $ 4, 000 on your credit card, the bill comes, you
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can only pay $ 300. Well, guess what? That was a
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: bad month. You should never now spend another penny on
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: that credit card until that thing is– I mean, I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: don't understand that type of living. That's just me.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I agree that that is an American trait and that
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: is something that is really difficult to see people get
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: into that scenario. It's not just a reality TV thing though. No.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So many people try to live above their means. So
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: many people are living a smoke and mirrors life. Well,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: probably because of things like reality TV and because everything
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: is about who you are, what you look like, what
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: car you drive, where you live. I mean, people find
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: their self-worth in those things.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: But that's a Band-Aid. So you buy the Bentley. The
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Band-Aid is there. You're thrilled for three weeks. You still
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: have to live with the fact that you are insecure
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and you haven't worked on yourself.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, and always it ends up. exploding, imploding later
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: because you can't keep it going. And you know, if
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you're using those things, right, to get a man, to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: get a woman, whatever it is, people will eventually see
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: who you are on the inside. So all those things
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: won't cover it. I think that that's, you know, the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: end result. result and you end.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Up why don't people you and i are sitting here
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and realize this like if you can afford it by
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: all means buy a new louis vuitton bag every week
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: oh who's guilty of that i love my louis yeah
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: i am calling for an intervention a little bit but
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: i'm not doing it for the wrong reasons i'm doing
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: because i can afford it and i like it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: But you do get like a new bag every week
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: yes but i'm not your podcast must be doing really well.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: But listen okay time out for a minute I am
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: not doing that to fill any void.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: No.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: You know, like, okay, we all do things. People drink.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, sure. Like, you know, but it's, if I
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: couldn't afford it, trust me, it would be over. Right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I would go live in one room, in one room
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: studio somewhere in a, I would be happy.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, it also, you know, when you don't have
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that anxiety of, oh God, this is going to catch
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: up with me or, oh God, I can't afford this
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and it's going to prevent me from paying my rent
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: next month, whatever it is. I mean, when you don't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: have that anxiety, it feels much better about living in
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I'll say that. Yeah. And you're not doing it like
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: to say, look at me.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Right. Oh, exactly.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, that's why the Chrisleys are in jail.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And what's the story with that? I still have never
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: understood that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was definitely– because people are like, why
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: did they get more time than Jen Shah? Like, they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: definitely have more charges, like tax evasion. They also, I think,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: at one point, Julie lied or they were caught in lies,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like lies on something. They were lying to the government
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: about something.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Which you should never do.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: You should never do. You should also never– listen, if
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: you want to do something bad, tax– not paying your
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: taxes is probably– that would be, like, last on my list. Mm-hmm.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Like that's really– there's no coming back from that. Right, right, right.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: That ain't going to end well ever.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: No, and we've seen so many people go to jail
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: for that. I mean, didn't Wesley Snipes go to jail
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: for that back in the day?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: I like the situation from Jersey Shore.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Right, right. There's a lot of people. So it happens.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: No matter who you are, you'll go to jail for that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I don't want to pay my taxes either.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I want more money. I want all my money, but–
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm like crazy with that stuff. Like really anal. Like, well, okay,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: maybe we should take this. But no, no, no. If
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a red flag, like I don't
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: want to say I did like this is just pay it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Like I just don't come back in like one of
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: those people. Right, right. Like I don't want you coming
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: for me in five years for anything.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: No, of course not. Okay, so let's talk about what
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: are the hot topics right now. You've had a lot
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of people on your show. You just had Suzanne Summers
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: on your show who made some news and said that
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: she was one of the original people that was asked
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to be on The View with Barbara Walters, and she
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: turned that down. She did. Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Which we just kind of, it wasn't even, like, that's
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: where being a podcast, being in my fourth year, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: have a trained ear now when I hear something. I'm like, what?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: So you know it's going to be news.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, like that, the whole reason that even came
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: up is, I mean, I didn't ask about it. I said,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you know, what about you on Shark Tank? We've had Bethany,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: we've had Alex Rodriguez, you know, Suzanne Somers, Thighmaster. I mean,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Suzanne Somers has real money. Talk about people that have
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: real money. The Thighmaster is huge. So I was like,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: would you ever go on Shark Tank? I figured that
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: alone could have been something. And she was like, no,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not really for me. I don't really
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: buy for time, you know, airtime well. And I'm kind
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of like alone. You know, actually, for her, it was nothing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: She didn't know what she was doing. She wasn't supposed
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to be a thing. And I was like, wait, wait, wait.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Like the original view with Barbara Walters, like they actually
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: wanted you. And she was like, yeah. And, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I just could see, could sense that this show would
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: be vying for airtime, talking over people. I mean, exactly
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: what The View is. So I was like, David, stay
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: on this. Throw the script away. This is something. And
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, and then you don't know. So then
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: you Google afterwards, like, Suzanne Somers, The View. And you're like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything. And then you do it. Oh,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: she was on The View. I'm like, this is not
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: out there. Which is because, you know, I mean, she's 76. Like,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: there's many interviews. Like the view started when I'm like,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: this could be out there, but it's not. And even
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: if it's out there, you could still get press with it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Like that's the crazy thing about this. If someone said
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: something five years ago, no one, unless you're in the weeds,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: no one really. But I was like, this is not
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: out there. I'm like, this is a major thing that
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: she would have been sitting there. Suzanne Somers, that's pretty big.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Right. That would have been great. I would have loved
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to see her on it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite interviews ever.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. She's fantastic. So another thing you've gotten press for
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: is talking about who is on Ozempic in Hollywood. Or
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: maybe not in Hollywood, but in reality TV.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And in Hollywood. Okay.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I've talked about it. And your own journey, so to speak,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: on Ozempic yourself.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Manjaro and the semi-glute habit. Yeah, same thing.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: So people that have heard about this that don't know
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: much about it, why don't you tell them how it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: makes you feel, what it does?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I admit it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Why are people so nuts about this topic?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think– listen, to be honest with you,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you'd be shocked. This really is– the amount of people
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: that slip into my DMs, I would say only 1%
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: is a hater. 99% are like– How can I do it? Well, yes.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: And I've referred people to my true medical professional that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: you work with that needs to write a prescription. But
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: most people are like, you know, thank God you're just
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: being honest about it. Really, I think that's where– Because
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: let's face it, everyone's lying about it. Right. I don't
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: know why.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I think that people want to act like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they're losing weight on their own and it's hard work.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And I think probably people are embarrassed because they don't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: want to admit that they're taking a drug that could
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: probably go to somebody else who is sick with diabetes.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: It's a diabetes drug for people that don't know. And
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the side effect is it helps you lose weight. So
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that's why a lot of people are taking it. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it could be for huge amounts of weight. Or it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: could be for even just a little tweak in your body,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the last little bit that you can't get off. So
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: for you, what was it like? You lost a decent
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: amount of.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Weight, right? Like almost 40 pounds. Yeah, yeah. Huge.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Almost in a healthy way though. I mean, it just
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: cuts down your appetite, right? Well, you tell me.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah. So I guess that's the controversy that A,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: you're taking something that right now, like Manjaro, is only
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: prescribed for people that have diabetes. However- It is going
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: to be FDA approved for weight loss. I said this
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: from the first day, and I will stand by this.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You can love this. You can hate this. This has
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: changed the weight loss industry forever. You can quote me
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: on that. I was just in the Wall Street Journal
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: talking about this. I don't know everything, but when I
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: focus on something, it's like, this is Botox. This is
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: truly Botox. So- This has changed the weight loss industry forever.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And it's a quick fix. I mean, you could lose
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of weight very quickly.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Since October, I lost 40 pounds. Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And then keep it off too because it's something you
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: can stay on and maintain in cycles or whatever. I mean,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, but you could get it off
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and keep it off. It's not like fluctuating.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Well, this is where a lot... Well, first of all, yes. Now,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to say because people... I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: think some people maybe if you're not educated by this
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: think that you... Take your injection once a week and
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: then life is good and you eat a key lime
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: pie for breakfast and you have pizza for lunch. So
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: it's like none of that is true. Like you're not
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: cheating the system in the sense that you're eating and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: enjoying life. You are doing this and you're right. It
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: really kills your appetite. In large part because of the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: side effects are so bad, at least for me. Interesting.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: What were the side effects you had?
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you. But so, I mean, for me, it's like, look,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: that's where it's like, it's no picnic. And I tell
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: people that slip into my DMs that are like, can
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: you connect me? I'm like, I'm out of this. I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: not the medical professional. You actually need to go through
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: a consult and a blood test. But I'm like.
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• 28:07
  Speaker 2: If you're asking me if I have side effects, I'm
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: going to be honest, you do. I mean, everything. Like,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I've had all of them. You get... First of all,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you get really exhausted at times. Like I was in
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the beginning, it was worse than COVID. Like I could
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: not keep my eyes open. That's, I mean, really. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: then also at some point you're eating so little in
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the beginning that it's because of that. But I mean,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: you do get nauseous to either throwing up or your
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: stomach is in such cramps that you feel like you're
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: going to throw up, but don't. That's the worst feeling.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: For me, the absolute worst side effect is the digestive issues.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So here's, you know, for- Sounds wonderful. Well, here's also,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: let me tell you this. It also, the way it works,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: just for people that don't know, is once you inject yourself, you, you,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the food stays in your stomach. So if you and
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I went out for a lunch right now, you would
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: just say the normal digestion time for that is 12
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: hours or whatever. I'm just making that up. For me,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it stays in my system for maybe like 36 hours.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: So imagine if we both had a burger and fries,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you would be hungry for dinner because it's lunchtime because
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: that's normal. Whereas my burger will sit in my stomach
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: probably for two days.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: That's how it works.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Wow. Oh, to keep you full, you mean.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, that's just, and again, I'm not a doctor.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So everyone, I cannot, prescribe. I'm just oversimplifying. So when
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you say burp a certain way, you know how when
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: you have that great Italian meal and you burp and
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, it's so satisfying, that chicken parm I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: had last night for dinner. What a great taste. Here,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: the burp is tied to something that has been in
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: your stomach for like three days. Oh, gross. Okay. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: we can just leave it at that. The burps are
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the absolute worst.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So let's play a game. Are they on Ozempic or
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: are they not on it? Or are they just losing
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: weight and healthy by going to the gym?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Okay.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Let me think. Because there's a lot.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: So Kim, like Kim and Croy, we were talking. First
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: of all, Croy doesn't need it. But do you think Kim?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I need to take a better look at her. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: would say no. Someone just sent me a picture and
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: they're like, look how much weight she lost. And I'm like,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I don't see it. I didn't see a ton. Do
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you think it's a ton of weight?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I think she looks good for her. I've never really
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: followed her body too much. I mean, she always is
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: showing her wigs and her hair and her face and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: her makeup.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Believe it or not, I'm going to say no Ozempic.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's like a normal weight loss and she's
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: always been kind of athletic. I would say for now,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say Kim is normal. And look what
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: she's going through, a divorce. Mm-hmm. I'm going to say
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: normal weight loss for Kim.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. How about Adele?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Ozempic. Really? I think so.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It's such a drastic– I mean, this is not hard
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: for people to get these days. Now you factor in
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: celebrity and someone who has endless amounts of money. Mm-hmm.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I don't buy it. And that's,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: by the way, when people say to me, they're like,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: thank God you're being honest because I think that's the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: person that's sitting home that is eating a salad a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: day and is drinking water and is trying so hard
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to exercise and is starving and is just miserable with
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: how hard they're trying and the weight is not coming
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: off because they're not 19 years old. I think that's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: why they appreciate someone that says, I didn't, you know, yes,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I still exercise. It is diet because you're not hungry.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: But like, this is how I lost my weight. They're like,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: at least we know why you had such a drastic
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: weight loss. And we are not beating ourselves up for that.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Because we can't do it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Because listen, when you're on a diet and you're starving
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm just going to eat everything in
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: sight now because I've been trying so hard and eating
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: lettuce and vinegar and peas and carrots. And I want that.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: And nothing is coming off. Fuck this. I'm just going
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to eat 12 pizzas a day. That's at least for
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: me when I was dieting. At least they're like, now
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: we get it why it's working for you and not
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: for me. There isn't anything wrong with for me at
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: 49 years old and I'm trying so hard and I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: just can't take this weight off.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: What about?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't buy it, Adele.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Black China.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Ooh.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I would say no Ozempic. I feel like it's like
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a normal weight loss. I don't see such a drastic
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: change with her.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Also, she's taken a lot of her implants out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Or made them smaller, whatever, however you do that. But
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: she looks much more natural and tiny to me.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say all of that plus like a healthy,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: clean lifestyle and there's no more lawsuit with Rob Kardashian
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that's in the past. I would say no Ozempic.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: She's just let things go naturally.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: J-Lo. J-Lo. I would say Noah Zempik. I mean, she's
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: always– I mean, I think she's a freak of nature.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. What is she now? 51, I think?
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Something like that, yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: 52. I mean, she is just– I mean, oh, my God.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Did you see her at the Met? Oh, she killed–
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: she is just– No, I didn't.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: She– She looked great.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: She was in Ralph Lauren. The theme this year was
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Karl Lagerfeld. She looked– I think she's so natural.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: She's beautiful. Not normal. Not normal. That that's her body
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and that's her skin and all that. Look, okay, yeah.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Do I think she's put needles in her face for Botox?
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I would say sure. Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: But she also has that darker skin, so she has
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that glow. She looks more natural and younger no matter
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: her age.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And she's a dancer. She's fit. So speaking of J-Lo,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: let's talk about the news that was just out about them.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And people are trying to dissect J-Lo. The body language
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: between her and her husband, Ben. What do you think
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, this keeps coming up, right? It came
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: up at the Emmys. Now, I saw something. I don't
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: even know if this is true. Some mouth reader, someone
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: who reads lips, apparently read their lips and said it
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: was them on the carpet. And he was like, are
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you okay? Do you want me to get out of
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: your limelight? A little bit to the left. It was
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: all about their poses and getting the pictures in. And
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: the exact opposite of what people are saying. Right. Then
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: we have that car door where, I mean, you slam
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: a car door. That's not, I mean, a lot of
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: people slam a car door.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you throw the door closed. You're like, oh, whoops.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: It must be really hard for them living under the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: microscope where it almost seems like the tone is people
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: don't want them to succeed. People want there to be
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: some sort of issue between the two of them. Don't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you think?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know why. I mean, maybe because she's
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: like looking for love all the time and that's the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: narrative surrounding her and they were together.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: And And she gets married very fast.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: She gets married and falls very fast. And this was fast,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: even though, you know, and I mean, I guess also
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: because of Ben and he had his own addiction issues
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and he's painted as like a bad guy in the media. Yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I don't really get it. Like, why aren't people coming
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: for all these other couples that are out there newly forming?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I hope that it lasts, right? Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Do we need another Kim and Croy? Like, I would
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: like to see J.Lo... Look, if it didn't work, it
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: wouldn't shock me because look what they're under. This media
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: scrutiny and like she obviously works all the time and
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: he works a lot. But I don't know. I think
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: there's something to be said about coming. It's like the
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: person you marry that you went to high school with
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and you. reconnect at that reunion when you're 42 years old.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I love that.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't that be great to have somebody from
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: your past that knows you, that cares about you for
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: who you were and isn't so impressed necessarily, but has
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: a respect for you. So wait a minute. I want
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to talk about a couple that seems to be in
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: a very good place. What do you think of the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: news about Chrishell from Selling Sunset and her new marriage
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: with a woman, G Flip?
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Well, her ex, Jason Oppenheim, says he totally supports it.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: They are just the stellar couple. You know, it's been
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: also a year. It hasn't been forever. I'm not for
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: or against it. It's just the whole thing. Like, just
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: like myself, Mr. Jason Oppenheim, another person I can relate to,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: is successful in business and just doesn't really want children.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 36:27
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be, I would, listen, if Jason said, oh,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: my girlfriend and I now are having a child, I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: would be just as shocked, you know, because that's the
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: whole reason. And he loved Chrishell so much. And she
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: wants a child. We saw it on the show. The
• 38:18
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  Speaker 2: cannot wait. I don't work for Netflix. I'm just putting
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  Speaker 1: We're just so excited to see it.
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• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's going to be great. And so, like, that would
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: shock me. I mean, he basically broke up with her because, like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I love you so much. First of all, I do
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: believe that they broke up and now they work together.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: And he's also the boss. And he just has such
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: respect and love for her as a person. I love
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: to see that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I agree with that, too. But, you know, it's interesting
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that everybody thought the reasoning was because of the timing
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: of wanting a child. Okay, so now she's fallen in
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: love with a woman, which we haven't heard that this
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: was something in her past. I mean, I think this
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: is a new kind of development in her sexuality. And
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: as we know, if she's going to have a baby
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: with this woman, they have to adopt or do something
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: with a surrogate, which is the same kind of stuff
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: she could have done with Jason if they were on
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the same page. Maybe this girl is on the same
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: page with her and they want kids immediately, which is
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: why they got married now.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope so. That would be cool. Yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: like it's not strange to me or I'm not that shocked.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I would just hope like, have you lost, like are
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: you on the rebound or are you so in love
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: with this person that you forgot like you want a
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: family and children? Right. If they announce they're having a
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: family and children, whichever way, I would be like, this
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: makes complete sense. Good for you. Yeah. Good for you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: What do you think about people finding a new path
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: in their sexuality late in life after a breakup?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I don't really– look, I'm all for it. I don't
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: know if I really understand it. Yeah. I mean, like, look,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I– I understand so many things, especially
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: as a gay man. Fluidity is less, I mean, look,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: there are people that are fluid, right? And I don't
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: even mean like bisexual. I mean, you just talk to
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: certain people that are like, I just, I mean, what
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: a great thing to be able to just meet the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: person and connect with them. You know, like Tyler Posey from,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: what show is that on MTV? That vampire show? Teen Wolf.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's, more or less into women, but it's like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: oh no, I'm fluid and I've been with plenty of guys.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: And I just don't really, I don't know. I'm so
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: not fluid.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not either. I mean, I like a real man.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like manly men.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: You prefer Croy over Tom Sandoval and his nail polish,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: so I understand.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't, I don't think I could be attracted
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: to somebody who wears nail polish because I don't like
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: feminine qualities in the person that I date. That's just me,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: you know, personally. I think it would bother me. But,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't have anything against people finding their
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: person because they fall in love with the person.
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  Speaker 1: Person inside. I mean, I get it. I haven't found my...
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still... You know, I'm not married, so
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: it hasn't happened to me yet.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: You don't want to start dating women?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, no. Unless she was super manly.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: So I don't think, you know, and then at that
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: point I could date a man.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: There's manly women out there.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, but I'd like to find a man. I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: can fix you up. Do you want me to fix
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you up? No, I think I'd like to find a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: man first.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. That would be better.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But speaking of LGBTQ and that kind of fluidity at
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the moment, let's talk about that because it's a really
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: hot topic. Have you had anyone on your show to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: talk about that topic yet?
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: What topic?
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Well, LGBTQ in general and the fact that it's in sports.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, so many people– that's become kind of an
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: entertainment news piece because of the Jenners and the Kardashians.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Caitlyn has been very vocal about– Right. Caitlyn's been very
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: vocal about trans women should not be able to compete
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: in women's sports.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: And it's because of that one person whose name, like,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: escapes me who, I guess, won everything. Oh, yes.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: The swimmer.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Look, a lot of people agree with– listen, I'm not
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: exactly– every time I say this, people are like, why
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: do you say that it's such a bad– I'm like,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I'm not exactly the most woke person. Everyone's like, why
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: do you say woke as if it's a bad word?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I don't, but I also don't believe in like a
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: lot of things. Like I don't believe in like cuddling
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: your children. No, like not everyone gets a fucking medal. Sorry.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I'm actually really, as a gay man, way more conservative
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: than people think. Mm-hmm. I believe, yeah, but I completely,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people agree with Caitlin. I disagree.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: I've disagreed on my show before. I mean, man, if
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you think people in middle America or around the world
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: hate gay people, they hate trans people even more. Oh,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Well, they're scared of what it means, I think.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: They don't understand. I mean, the comments I got were like,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Why would you this? And, you know, it's not a
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: real woman. And, like, just, like, this person can't have
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: a baby. So, I mean, the comments were disgusting. So
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I disagree. I disagree. I feel like I disagree with
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Caitlyn on this one. And I love a little Caitlyn Jenner.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Well, she's, by the way, people can say anything they
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: want about her. That woman, when she was a man,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: was the most amazing athlete. And if you let her
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: compete now … she could still beat half the men.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: So of course she'd beat the women.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: That's why she says that.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, so I haven't even heard her comments, but
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: it seems like common sense to me.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: And we all know Caitlyn's conservative.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I do disagree with you because, I mean,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: this is a topic that I'm not familiar with because
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not in that community. I don't even, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not even in the sports community, right? Either one.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: But I think that in women's sports, somebody who was
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: born a biological man would have way too much advantage,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: even if their hormones have changed because they're given hormone therapy.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It just seems like the advantage is different. But what
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: do I know? It just seems like it would be
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: an unfair playing field.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why a lot of people agree with you.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: And I totally understand. I get the argument. I totally
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: understand where you're coming from, where Caitlin's coming from. I
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: just am like, Listen, like you say, and by the way,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: you can say what you want about Caitlyn and people
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: hate her because she's conservative. But if you're not, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: in the community or you don't, like you're not in
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the entertainment business, you're not in certain, if you're really
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: outside and you really don't, the point is around the world,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: people don't know a lot of people. Caitlyn is really
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: probably one of the most famous, if not the most
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: famous trans woman ever. Now, you know, there's many others
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and we have Pose and Ryan Murphy and like there's
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: plenty of people if you live a certain– like if
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: you're just with the world. But if you're really isolated
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: like all these haters, Caitlyn is the face of it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: So you can hate her all you want and say
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: she's conservative. She still has done more just by existing
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: as formerly Bruce Jeter for the trans community in a
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: lot of– listen– The trans community don't like Caitlyn. Like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying? So, but my whole thing is, like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: if you were born as, like, if you were born, Rachel,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: you could tell. Yeah. And you were six years old
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and people are like, this is disgusting. There's a lot
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: of controversy that you should not let, you know, young
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: children go through. Like, whatever. But, like, if you at
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: six years old were, like, just disgusted by Barbies and
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: your pink pants and just... All you want– and this
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is a lot of stereotypes. All you wanted to do
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: is– so the bottom line is you truly were a man.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Like that is the way your brain thought. It has
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with your sexuality. Just you were a man.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And so imagine like we talk about Ozempic and people
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: that want to look a certain way. Imagine if you
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: looked down and you were so just disgusted.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: By the body you were in. And not only disgusted,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: felt like you were in the wrong body.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: So at ease in your own skin. Yes. I think
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of people can't understand what that's like.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: They can't. Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: So I think people got to tread lightly on the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: trans thing.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Because you don't know what they're going through. But it's
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: like a fact thing about whether or not they're better
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: at something because they were born a man and with
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: more muscle mass. I mean, it's kind of simple to me.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: But I know you don't agree. No.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: The only rule, I'm going to get to my point
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: and then you can answer. Like the only point is
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: like if you, right, if you had to be a man,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: say for you- Or someone had to be– like that
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: would trump– you would lose your parents over it. You
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: would lose your significant other. You would get into a
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: category that you may not be as sexually desirable to people,
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: which I'm not saying is the case, but to a
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: lot of people. Like that would trump friends. That would
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: trump everything. Like you would have to go through this.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: You could deny it all you want. People come out
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: as– But like you would have to be a man.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: You would lose everything in the world for that because
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: that's who you were. So now let's say someone does
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: that and is now a woman. So now you've lived
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: your whole life not being included. So now you're a woman, period.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: And that's why when– so I think it's so ignorant
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: then when people say like this is not a real woman. Well,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: it is. You just don't– so now where– all I'm
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: asking is where do you now want this woman to
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: compete if that's a sports person?
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: That is my only thing. Tell me where you want
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: this person. I don't know. Because now you're saying you
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: can't be included. Right.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: So these people just feel not included.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: But we're putting them back to like age seven or whatever.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: That's my only thing.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, there's a lot of compassion
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: that goes with it. Trans people, LGBTQ in general, I
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: think there's a bill being considered right now in Florida,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: maybe in other states, of whether or not doctors can
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: not prescribe certain things and they won't even take them
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: in their office. So this whole feeling for, quote unquote,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: these people seems almost like they're not human, that they
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: don't deserve the same rights that we do. And I
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: think that's really unfair. I think that's crazy that people
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: are considering to not give health care to trans people
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: or people that choose to be a certain sexuality. I mean,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's really incredible that that's what our government
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: has come down to.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're kind of taking steps back, right? Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: With the abortion thing for women too. I mean, I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: think it's really incredible.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: So it's like, look, and I do understand it. I
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: do understand the argument of the Caitlyn and everyone, but
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: it's more like, well, then where do these people compete? Yeah.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You know? So that's just my only thing.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Speaking of sports, I find this story interesting. The WNBA
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: is starting up again this season. A lot of women
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: in the WNBA have decided to not stand or even
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: be in the arena during the national anthem. Have you
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: heard about this?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: And the WNBA is known for being very supportive of
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community. I think a lot of women on
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: these teams are bisexual, lesbian, whatever they choose to identify with,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: but not a lot are heterosexual. So they all, the
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: WNBA really supports that. But Brittany Griner, do you remember her?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: She was in Russia. She was detained there for having
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: some drug paraphernalia in her suitcase. America brought her back
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to this country to give her her freedom again. And
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: she is reportedly not going to stand during the national anthem.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that?
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: Why? So why isn't she going to? I'm confused.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Because she wants to support her teammates because they don't
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: believe that a lot of rights have been given to
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: women in athletics in general. And they're just not supporting
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the national anthem or American athletes. Americans or America, so
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: to speak. And I think it's really interesting. I mean,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: of all the people- What do you mean?
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Because they're taking away rights from the LGBT community?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, LGBTQ, black, women um you know they don't support
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: that america doesn't support its country.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Like we're going backwards yeah so we're not going to
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: stand during.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: The national yeah so of all people that i would
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: love to see get up and put her hand over
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: her heart when the national anthem is played i think
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: it would be britney griner and i think people would
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: just get so emotional seeing her because america brought her
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: home and i would love to see her be the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: one that kind of turns the tables to be like
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you know, people can have their own individual feelings about things,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: but you could still be proud to be an American.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: And I wonder what you're feeling.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, in that sense, yeah. I mean, if I
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: was in Russia and I was being detained and couldn't
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: come home, I would be like, that would try, just
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: like the desire to be who you really are within
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: a second, you know, like I would stand. Yeah. Yeah.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: And I think it would be really nice to be there.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I would be like, this country saved me and that,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, like I would, my life would be so
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: much worse if I wasn't here. So like, I have
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: to honor this. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I just wish that.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: So we saw, speaking of people in prison before, we
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: saw Jen Shaw prison photos. Do you care?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's just such an awful person. She looks
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: pretty put together. Right? She did.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: She looked like she had a nice, Her hair was
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: back very nicely done.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: There's no grays. I mean, where's the hair? Is your
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: hair colored?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: No, I don't know. But, you know, I saw she
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: was wearing glasses. So she doesn't get her contacts there.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I have to look close. I
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: thought I saw like a watch and maybe earrings.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: I saw her wedding ring.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think that they would take all that away.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I'm not saying that I want to
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: go to prison. But I. I just like where we
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: started with Raquel, like to have like a timeout from life.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: So I'd say your timeout for like, I mean, please
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: sign me up for a timeout, girl. I'd like to go.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: And I know you have to wake up and you
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: have to work and all that. But that didn't look so,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, all this jewelry and bling. I didn't
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: even notice the wedding ring. Right, right. Wow.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so other hot topics. Anna Nicole Smith, they have
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: a movie coming out about her. You actually interviewed two
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: of her close friends.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I know them really well. They know Anna. They've been
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: on my show, Patrick and Paul. They've been on my
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: show many times. First of all, they were on the
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Anna Nicole show. They really knew her. They were offered,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: which I found interesting, which doesn't shock me, over a
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: million dollars basically to get the paparazzi and TMZ all
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: back in the day into her funeral and all that.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: And they were just like, we just couldn't do it.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: This is what they claim. And I was like, I mean, listen.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: You know, you want to honor your friend, but somebody
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: did it. Somebody's going to do this. Right, right. I
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: don't know. That's a dilemma. I'm going to be honest.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: If I'm being really honest, I would take the money.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't dishonor you, but I would just,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, all right, this is going to get out there. Yeah,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I want the check to clear my bank account for
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: a million.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: I saw recently.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Come on in.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw recently that they said that they didn't
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: believe that Anna's wishes would be to have Larry Burkhead
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: raise the child.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: They are very anti-Larry. Yeah. I can tell you that.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think they have any connection with Danny Lynn?
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know them really well. I could say,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: you know, no. Wow. I mean, like connection, you mean like.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Are they talking to her?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you meant like, are they the father?
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: No, no. I mean, are they speaking to her? Have
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: they grown up in her life because they were so
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: close to her mother?
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I think, I mean, listen, I only know what they
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: tell me. Yeah. But I think, you know, according to them, Larry,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: he moved to Kentucky, couldn't make it in Hollywood.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's get started.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Are you first-time buyers? Yeah, it's our first time.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: So, it's your first time here?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: No, it's first-time buying. Did you say no for first-time buying?
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: No, wait, hold on. Okay, please hold.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: What?
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: No, no, I told you to hold on.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: You're viewing homes, not mortgage advisors. So find your nearest
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: branch at ebs.ie to get a dedicated mortgage person throughout
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: your mortgage journey. EBS, the mortgage people. Lending criteria, terms
• 55:22
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• 55:25
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• 55:26
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't just, like, talk about someone you want to
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: get on the Rachel, you could tell them, Misunderstood podcast.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. No, I would love to get Larry Burkhead.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Or Danny Lynn, yeah. Because I think they're so interesting
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: and you never hear how it was to grow up
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: without a mother who is so famous and iconic. And,
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I would love to hear about the struggles
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: he went through to prove that he was the one
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that deserved to raise her. I mean, there was that guy, Howard,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the lawyer that said he was the father. He was
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: written on the birth certificate. And from what these friends
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that you interviewed have said, they've said that Anna Nicole
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: was And disliked Larry and made fun of him a lot.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting to see how that turned out.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: And, like, I'd love to ask Danny Lynn, like, you know,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, the world, a lot of the world says
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: your father's a bad guy. Are you aware of that?
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: How does that make you feel?
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: But is he a bad guy?
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: We just don't know. I don't know.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: We literally don't know. We haven't heard from him in
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the last 16 years or however long it's been, right?
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: How old is she now? Or how long has it
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: been since Danny died?
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I think she's in her teens.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw that. There was a picture that
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: went around. I was like, oh, wow.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And remember, her eyes went in separate ways. She had
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: her eyes fixed. I mean, I really would love to hear.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When she was a baby, her eyes went in
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: opposite directions.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: She had that. Okay. Yeah.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: So she's a beautiful girl.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And she was the son who died her 100% or
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: were they different fathers? Yeah. I don't even know.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, again, I don't know that either.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Who was the.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Father of Daniel?
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: That would be interesting. So there's so many questions to ask.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: I'd love to talk to them. I also heard that
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Lorena Bobbitt has a movie coming out. Remember her? I mean,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I love those Where Are They Now stories. I would
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: love to have her on.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: You know who I want to have on? Who? Really bad.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I think my team has tried. But I think she
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: needs money of some sort. I want Amy Fisher. Oh, yeah.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're from New York. Yeah. I mean, I
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: would take Mary Jo Bodefuco too, but I want Amy Fisher. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I would love to hear whatever happened to her.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: How did she get over that stigma? Did she go
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: to jail? I don't even remember. If people don't remember,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Amy Fisher was the woman who was having an affair
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: with a married man. What was his name again?
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Joey Buttafuoco.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Joey Buttafuoco. How could I forget?
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Welcome to Long Island, people.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: And she went and shot the woman that he was
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: married to in the face.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: And she survived. And that was Mary Jo.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Mary Jo Buttafuoco. Yeah. She used to be on Howard
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Stern all the time.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I wonder, did they stay married?
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I think so. Oh, my gosh. We have to find out.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: And why did she shoot the woman? She just said,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: this is my man.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: She said, this is my man. She probably was jealous.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: But by the way, how do you get over that stigma?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Did she ever get married? Was a man ever able
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: to let that go and marry her? I find that
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: to be interesting.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I would love to talk to her.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Did she learn a lesson?
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Did she still talk to him? You know who you
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: should also go after, which it's not going to happen?
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: It's a hard one. Monica Lewinsky. I still want her.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the thing with Monica, I know Monica.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I've spoken to her a few times. You know, her story,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: she's told her story so many times. So I don't
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: think she's necessarily misunderstood anymore. I think people get the story.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: So she's an obvious.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: The Ryan Murphy American crime story was brilliant.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was brilliant. It was very good. And I
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: love that she co-produced it and was able to give
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: her side. And it didn't make her look very good
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. I mean, it made her look like
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: she kind of went after the president and really– made
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: it difficult for him to get rid of her. for
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I would still love just like 20 minutes with her. Yeah.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, of course. Well, who wouldn't? Okay. So we're back
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: in New York. When is Real Housewives of New York
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: coming out? 7-16.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: 7-16. I need to think for a minute. Oh, gosh.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Like tomorrow.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: How do you know this already?
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, no. They did. They have a trailer with no pictures,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: but it's just an apple sitting there. And you see
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: a hand reach in with manicured nails and take the apple.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: And you hear a huge crunch, huge bite off air.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: And it says 7-16. Andy Cohen says it's different.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't sound that excited about it. But maybe
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: that's just because he doesn't want to get anybody's hopes
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: up and wants them to literally come in with a
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: clean slate. What do you think?
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, listen, Andy Cohn, from having
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: a Bravo podcast, Behind the Velvet Rope, which is every
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: day of the week, Rachel, you, listen, you could be honest,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: it's his favorite franchise. He lives here. He's connected. Like,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: he knew Jill Zarin before this. He knew Luann. So, like, also,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: what I said recently on my show is Andy Cohn,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: These are his peers. Andy is 52. Luann is 57.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, it must be hard. Listen, he cares about
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Andy Cohen and Ben and Lucy more than anyone else. So,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: you know, for his, you know, net worth of $ 75 million,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: he'll do everything he has to do the job. So
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: he has no problem firing all his friends. But it
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: must be, I'm sure he's not into watching a bunch
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: of 32-year-old, 37-year-old influencers running around New York I'm sure,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, Andy Cohn doesn't go to anything housewives.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: He says that. Last summer, before he ran into me
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: at schools out for the Hetero March Foundation in East Hampton,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: he stopped by Luann's Fose launch at Topping Rose. I mean,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: he doesn't, right, he's friends with Luann. So, I mean,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he would rather be hanging out with like
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Luann and Ramona and Jill and Sonia than these people. So,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's, I'm sure it's harder for him too. Yeah.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: But still different isn't really, doesn't sound, listen, I'm not.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: Do you think they should try a new city also?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Listen, I've said this, like I feel so mixed about
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: the new New York. I mean, looking at the cast
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: and knowing, like having heard of them, I'm not like
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: overly excited. I'm not. But listen, I've said this, they
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: need to make it, because this is what I think
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: they should have done. I think if they did like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: a real-life gossip girl and took even younger, like 20-somethings.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: They tried that. I know.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: They tried that.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: They tried it a bunch of times. They tried it
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: with Gallery Girls. They tried it with New York City Prep. But, like,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: look at, like, The Hills and, like, they did The City. Like,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a bunch of, like, bitchy, wealthy, like, you have to, like,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: lean in. It could be diverse. Absolutely. This is New York. But, like,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: you know, looks the part. I mean, has so much money.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: The most obnoxious, over-the-top women that don't know anything and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: have daddies like a real-life gossip girl. That would be annoying,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: but we would hate those people and we would love
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: to hate them. This is like in between for me.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: It might be interesting.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I think a great idea for a show is everyone's
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: moving to Palm Beach or to Florida. I'm moving to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach. I think they should do a new kind
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: of series about women who are on their second act
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: of life. They don't have to be married.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe they are.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: But like it's a real struggle and hustle figuring out
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: how to get your kid into school, having to pay
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the bills, having to date again, having to find new
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: friends when you move. But all these New Yorkers are
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: moving down to Palm Beach. I think that's kind of
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a great episode to figure– to see how they do
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: in a new environment when they come from having the
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: personality of a New Yorker and you're doing it alone.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I– I'm nominating myself.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, you really just want
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: to launch an entire show around you and cast people
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: that you become friends with.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I think it's interesting. Like, I'm a little nervous.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to know very many people.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Have you met anyone there yet?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: Well, yes, I know some people there. Yes, my daughter's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: going to start school there in August. And I went
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: to a school meeting already and met a couple kids
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: in her class and their parents. So I'm navigating what
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: that's like to meet all the new parents. But I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: think that's kind of interesting to follow someone on a
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: new path of life, as opposed to meeting new people
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: in New York who have already been here, who I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: don't even know are real New Yorkers. Do you know
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I don't know what makes them,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: you know, so good to be on the housewives of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: New York. And most of them aren't even housewives, I
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: don't think.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: No, this time around, we have a lot of single people, more. Yeah,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: But isn't it interesting that, sorry to interrupt you, but
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: the housewives of New York are categorically the only show
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: that doesn't have husbands for the most part and they
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: can't seem to find a steady boyfriend when they do
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: get married well that's what I was saying when they
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: do get married the divorce happens very quickly like with
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Luann so it's Almost very interesting. It says a lot
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: about New Yorkers and how hard it is to meet
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the right man here, how hard it is to be
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: a single woman here. So I think that kind of
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: show is even more interesting. Dating is always a real
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: interesting thing. I loved Love is Blind. I want to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Have you watched it?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: It's hosted by Nick and Vanessa? Yes. No, I have not.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: They just had their own controversies.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Yes. People didn't like them after the reunion.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: They said she was too biased. He was too biased,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: but especially her. They're not losing their jobs, people.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: No, but that show isn't about the host as much
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: because that show was so interesting to me because people
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: are meeting behind a wall. It's very similar to online dating,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: although you get to see a picture. You have to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: like the person's personality first and really connect with them.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: And do people last that have gotten married from that show?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. People have had babies. More than The Bachelor, more.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Than The Bachelorette.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Actually, people haven't had babies from that show. That's Marriage
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: at First Sight. That one I'm also obsessed with. I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: want to try any of these shows because what I'm
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: doing is not working.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: No. Love is Blind is interesting.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Listen, I know you should have been on the New
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: York Housewives. I get it. Let's put out there maybe
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: there'll be a show about you in West Palm, Palm Beach.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be about me. It's just I
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: find that interesting.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: It's an interesting... Listen, I think what they need to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: do with this new... It's already filmed. I hope New
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: York is like in Housewife. Like if you can capture
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: and show New York, the city, that is interesting to
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: people that have never been here. I mean, we have
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: a million shows in New York, but it still works.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: The hustle and bustle of New York, charity events. I mean, listen,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I say all the time, Yeah. Yeah. I just hope
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: that they capture that side of like, you know, it
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Like whatever the rules of the charity gala
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: benefit are, you're so rich and you're on the board.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: They're going to let you in. Like they're going to
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: break the rules for you. You know, I want that. Uber,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: like wealth here could be as interesting as Beverly Hills.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to get that.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: No, I agree with you.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Last couple things. Erica Jane is now in Vegas.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: She's heading to Vegas to bet on blonde. And guess what?
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: David from Behind the Velvet Rope is heading to Vegas.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: September and December, honey. Okay. You can come with me
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: one of the times.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: How did she get a residency there? Tell me that.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I feel, you know, there is some chatter that
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: she has this new, much older boyfriend and he's a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: big gambler. And I'm like, I don't know if that's how.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: I think, look, I've seen her. I saw the Pretty
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Mess Tour multiple times. There is, I mean, there is something...
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: about her performing. It's very enjoyable.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: So she's good.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: I think she's good.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: And she puts on a good show.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I think she puts, I mean, listen, picture Erika Jayne
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: on a, you want to go back to a Zempik
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: or not? I say, oh, Zempik. I mean, she's looking good.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: But like, yeah, picture Erika Jayne on a stage, costume changes, smoke. Yes,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: there's mostly gay men in the audience. There's plenty of
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: women too. I don't know if there's any straight men there,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: but like, Lots of gay men. Yeah, there. Kajane, it's
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: a real brand. It's a real thing.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: And how many songs does she have that she can
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: make a show out of?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot. We have How Many Fucks. We
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: have Painkiller.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. You really know her.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: We have Pretty Mess. Oh, Hunty.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: So she's going to put on a good show, you think?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Listen, if you think about it, it's Vegas. Like, this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: is going to work in Vegas. Yeah. Look, is she
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: playing the equivalent of, you know, Madison Square Garden there? No,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: she's playing like House of Blues, which is where like
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: lots of people perform.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: It's a real thing.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: What do you think about the victims in the case
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: with her ex-husband? I guess he is now. Do you
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: think they're going to have a problem with it?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people have a problem. I've
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: already done shows on I'm betting on blonde and heading
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: there and people are like, you are disgusting. Like you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: hate me for a lot of other reasons. Just hate
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: me for this one too. Right.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Well, why do they hate her for that, do you think?
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Well, I think people feel that she should be giving
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: money to the victims, that this windfall came to her
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: through this man that stole from these victims, and she's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: living a life here. She's living a life.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Well, what people also are not taking into consideration is
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: here she is hustling to get a residency there. She's
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: going to be making money there. She's working so she
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: can get money. I mean, she needs money right now.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: She doesn't have a man supporting her.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: No, she doesn't have a man supporting her. Yeah, I mean, listen,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: and then like legally her argument is always like, not
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: that she has really addressed this a lot, but legally-
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just spoke to her directly at Homeless
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Not Toothless, the event in Dorit's charity in LA. That's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: really the worst name. It's kind of funny, though, at
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: this point. And by the way, you know, I mean, look,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Erica is very– this is what I love about her, though.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: She's very business. She's never– like, she's just not– I
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: love her. She's like, thank you for supporting. Great. Like, yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: We had a few moments where she was like, you know,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not out of the woods yet, but things are
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: starting to turn– Like, I appreciate that. Give me a
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: little nugget I can take back to Behind the Velvet
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Rope and the Rachel Yucatel podcast. Misunderstood. But she's like,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: here's what she said. You talk about people that should
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: be on your show. Like, she said, like, look, when
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: the world is crashing in, this is something you can
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: relate to. When the world is crashing in against you,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: you have to protect yourself.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. Period.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: And so I'm like, I get it. Mm-hmm. it takes
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a strong person to have to block out all of
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: that and victims. And like, you still have to get
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: up and put food in your mouth and figure it
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: out for yourself. Oh, everything. And legally, you know, there's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: always the argument of like, I can't be paying victims.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Not that she even is entertained. It's not really her place.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: I don't have to entertain this. Everyone says victims and
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: this and that, but like, so I think truth, I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: always say on my podcast, two things get to be true.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: You could feel horrible for these people. And you could say,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going on into Vegas to make money. But two
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: things get to be true. But she, that is what
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: she said to me directly face to face. She's like,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: you know, when the world is crashing in, you have to,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: not everyone could survive that. Yeah. Yeah. I feel I could.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Like I can go through what you went through and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I would be just fine. Yeah. And I don't know
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: about when I was 23, but now I could. Yeah.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: I would be like, Erica, you just have to preserve
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: yourself and then figure out the rest later on.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: No, I agree. And I actually respect that she's, hustling
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and doing something to get herself back up on that stage,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: so to speak, and, you know, do something to create
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: her brand as opposed to being known for what people
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: know her for now, you know?
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: And she's, you know, trying to get away from just
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: being known as a housewife, just being known as a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: rich man's wife that got in a lot of trouble.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: So I think it'll be an interesting path for her.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And like at BravoCon, I wasn't there, but I knew
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I had someone on my podcast, like a friend of
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: mine was like, you know, they were waiting at the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: barriers for like who came and went from the hotel.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Because I said like, who was rude to you? And
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: it was like, it's like a blogger who's way less
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: advanced than I am in the world. But that's not even,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not being obnoxious. I'm just saying like, I was like,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: so tell me who do. And you know, he said
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: like Eric, and apparently, so Eric, you know, they were stopping,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: you know, the barriers, you take the selfies. But he's like,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Erica wouldn't even look. I'm like, I don't blame her.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. All these people that hate
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Erica so much, they still want a fucking picture. They're
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: still going to be nice to her when they see
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: her at an airport face to face. He's like, she
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even engage. I don't blame her. She's looking at
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: all of you people saying like, you're the same people
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: that want a picture with me or the same ones
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: that crucify me. Keyboard warriors have a problem. Now you
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: want a picture with me? I wouldn't give you a
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: fucking picture either. You know what I mean? So it's like,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: that's the weird thing about our society. People can criticize you,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: but they want that picture. Right.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Last question. You brought up to me the other day
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that Paris Hilton is going on tour. I didn't even
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: know she was considered a singer.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Okay. Well, many years ago, I'll play it for you after.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: We had a classic CD by Paris on Stars. You
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: know Stars are blind. You know these songs. She covered
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Rod Stewart's Don't You Think I'm Sexy.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: It came out. Yes. And I still listen to it often. Then, yes,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: she has a DJ career.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Was it played on the radio?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Yes. Wow. Stars Are Blind is like, if I played
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Stars Are Blind right now for you, you would be like, oh,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: my God. Right. I know it. Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I know it.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: I just don't remember it. She was on Channel 4
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: New Year's with Miley was hosting. Paris came out and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: they all did. It's a big song.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: She's not really known for her voice.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: It's a great voice, though. Is it? I think so.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, good.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, then again, there's people that will just...
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: She's not going on tour.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Don't you have to have a number of songs to
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: go on a tour?
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: There's not a tour. What's happening is in LA on
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: June 7th for her first live performance as a singer
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: in pretty much, I guess, 10, 15 years. There's a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: one night only, but it's because she has new music.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: It's a showcase, Rachel. In the biz, we say showcase. Okay, well,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: let me explain a few things. I'm not not going
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: to go, but I'm not going to go. I like
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: to If there was a seat, I would go. It's
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: general admission. So right now, right there, we start at a...
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Mind you, Tom Sandoval was also general admission, but that's
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: not going to... This is a big thing. Like this
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: sold out within minutes. Of course, you can still get
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: a ticket somewhere.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: And you know, there's... The Paris Hilton thing sold out.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Within like... It's a big like... Come on. Paris Hilton.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: The books... I went to the book signing. She just
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: had her book signing in like a month and a half,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: two months ago.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Were there a lot of people there?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: Sold out within seconds. Honey, Paris is like... She's still
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: got it. She's not Kim, but she's really an icon.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you love her or hate her.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: By the way, she's one of the most gorgeous women
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: Gorgeous. Yeah. Gorgeous.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think people give her a lot of credit
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: for that. She's beautiful. Gorgeous. Yeah.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Wonderful. So, no, this shit sold out right away. I mean,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: I have my place in LA. Like, I was like, oh. But,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm like, general admission. There's no, like,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: you know, they arranged for me to go with Tom
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Sandoval and say hi. That's not going to happen with
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Paris Hilton. Yeah. I'm not, I can go to a regular,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: if there was a seat, I would just go and
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm too old for general admission, honey. Yeah,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: I get it. It's like, so it like, really, it's not,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: but like, I'm like, what's the point of like standing
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: all the way in back? Like, I want to be
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: up front. I'd rather just pay a certain amount and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: get a front row seat and show up three minutes
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: before it starts. Yeah. So there's a lot of factors
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: here that are, that, but I, I wanted to go
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: until I looked into the actual details, but if there's
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: new music and I'm hoping there's going to be a
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: tour after this, I think, That's the point of this
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: is to like showcase this song was big. This song
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: was not. We have to work out the kinks. I'm
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: marking my words. There's going to be a tour with
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: a meet and greet and all that.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: And that I will go to. This is major. Okay.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: What is the one show you're looking forward to that's
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: coming out soon?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: I am going to like four Madonnas.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: I have tickets to like LA and New York. Oh,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: you didn't know this?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm going with Patti Stanger to one of them.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: When they went on sale, Patti's like this and that
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: and just get that thing.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Does she play her old stuff?
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Now she is. Okay, good. Do you realize that this
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: is the year? 1983 is when the, so this is
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: truly the 40th, the 40th anniversary, like this year.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: That music is still iconic. Everywhere I go, even if
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: I go into like a bodega, they're playing Madonna.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: The old stuff. This time it's all oldies.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: So we're predicting Madonna's comeback. I think people have given
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: her a hard time recently because of her face, because
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: of the people she dates.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They're giving her a hard time now
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: with saying like they saw like a performance, like footage
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: is leaked. There's very mixed– I mean, comeback I think
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: is a– I don't know if there is really a comeback.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: Like with the kids. The kids are like, who is this? Really? Right.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: It's a little crazy. Yeah. But the diehard– It.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Really shows our age because she was the thing back then.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: It was her– Whitney Houston and Wham.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: And Prince. Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Prince.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Sure. I was just at the Tom Sandoval.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: And Michael Jackson.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: And Michael Jackson. At the Tom Sandoval concert, Live Nation
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: was outside and they were like, who's been your best
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: concert ever? Prince. I've seen Prince many times. I mean,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: that's really a big thing. I know. I mean, so
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know about a comeback, but she still sells
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: out and the people that appreciate are going to go
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: insane for this show. Yeah. Okay. Insane.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Well, you'll have to come back on and tell me
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: what that's like. I'm going to the Taylor Swift concert
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: with my daughter to celebrate her 11th birthday and Mother's Day.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: So this will be very interesting. I hate concerts.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: I love, I mean, first of all, you're way more
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: of the youth than I am because Taylor Swift is
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: way more, even that's not exactly current current, but that's
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: way more Of the current world than Madonna. At least
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: the kids know who she is.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, of course. And what's interesting.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: You hate concerts?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I don't like going to concerts. It's too loud. You know,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: your seat isn't necessarily great no.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: Matter where you sit. But if you know the music.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: If you know the music. Like, I would go to
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: a Britney Spears concert immediately.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm also going to? This is
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: really going to show my age. And not in New York.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I don't even know where. I think Ohio and somewhere
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: else because that's where the front row seats work. Duran Duran.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've been to their concert. They're fantastic.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Phenomenal.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: They are so good. And I know every song.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: I go to– let me put it this way. I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: used to go to a million concerts. Now I'm very
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: selective because I just like– I'm like, yeah, I've been
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: to everything and like I'm over it. But Duran, I
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: literally went– when the tickets were on sale, I was like,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I don't care where it is. I just need to
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: secure the front or second row. Yeah. And then when
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: I did, when all the dust settled– Because once it
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: goes on the third-party market, you're like, fuck. I mean,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: it's expensive to begin with. I think I'm going to, like,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Ohio and, like, Detroit. Oh, wow. I was like, I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: don't care.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: So you're traveling for it.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Duran is, like, major. Yeah.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Major. I would do that for Hollywood.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: & Oates. I've seen them. Phenomenal.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: They're so good.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: The thing is, you know every song.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: Well, next time Hall & Oates comes, we'll go.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Do you think they're ever going to go on tour again?
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: They just played, I think, like a year ago.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, well, I'm going to go and look because I
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: want to go see them.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Them will go to Phenomenal. You've seen them, right?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: No, I've never seen them.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: When I worked at Tao.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Who's the tall blonde?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Daryl.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: Daryl Hall. I always get them confused. Came in and
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: no one knew who he was.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Did you want to marry him? Yeah. Isn't he gay? No,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: he's straight. Is he? I think he's married. Gosh.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Well, anyways, the bottom line is he came into the club.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: No one in the front knew who he was. I
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: had to jump over the stanchions and security guards and
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: be like, no, no, no, because they turned him away.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: And I was like, he can come in. Of course
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: he can come in. What do you mean? So that
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: would be a concert I'd love to go.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't this sad? The 80s legends are turned away. Yeah.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: It's so sad. They must all be alcoholics and in
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: some sort of therapy now for that.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: Because I have a bunch of 80s legends coming up.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: And I can tell you, my listeners who hang on
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: every word I say when I have a Bravo person on,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: these are not going to be my most heavily downloaded episodes.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, this is a self-indulgent episode. I've already
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: recorded them. Right, right. Lots of people.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on and discussing
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: all of your gossip.
• 1:20:12
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• 1:20:14
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• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: I want to know who you want, who you want
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: out there, who we're going to fix you up with.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Because we're going to do a whole Rachel, like, famous
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: people dating episode.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that would be really fun.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: And we'll do some hot topics, too. Okay.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:20:30
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• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Sorry.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Wait. Let's start over. David, where can people find you?
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Thank you for asking. Listen, it's called
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Behind the Velvet Rope. You know, it's Apple, Spotify, anywhere
• 1:20:42
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• 1:20:45
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• 1:20:48
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• 1:20:51
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• 1:20:54
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• 1:20:56
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• 1:20:58
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• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: It's a great podcast. You will love it. And he
• 1:21:02
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• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: And celeb gossip, girl.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: And the gossip.
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