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11-03-26 Hour 1 - Avs beat the Blackhawks 5-2/Nuggets blow it to the Blazers/Aaron Gordon is Blake Griffin · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 1: Radio 92.5 and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
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  Speaker 2: This is Jamal Murray.
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  Speaker 3: It's time for a double dip.
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  Speaker 2: Jamal Murray has it. He goes to the right hand.
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  Speaker 2: Step back three. Yes. Big one there. Cam gets in
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  Speaker 2: the paint.
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  Speaker 4: Behind him, Murray, head fake, sidestep three.
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  Speaker 5: Got it again!
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  Speaker 2: Right at the hoard!
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  Speaker 4: Wow! Jamal Murray's the Iceman! Well, it was a good
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  Speaker 4: first half, not so good a second half. Portland finally
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  Speaker 4: heated up from downtown, and that was the difference in
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  Speaker 4: the game.
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  Speaker 2: The three-point ball.
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  Speaker 4: Final tonight from Denver, Portland 118, Denver 110.
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  Speaker 5: Hi, this is Brett Kulak.
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  Speaker 2: You smell that? It's a double dip. The car tries
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  Speaker 2: to throw the needle.
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  Speaker 6: Tipped.
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  Speaker 5: They score!
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  Speaker 7: Hughes and Kadri are right there. For the second time tonight,
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  Speaker 7: the Kadri man can.
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  Speaker 2: Senti taves the intercept. Can he hit the open net?
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  Speaker 1: You betcha!
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  Speaker 7: The Avalanche are monsters in the midway. Down 2-0. Did
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  Speaker 7: not quit. And they win this one 5-2. You smell that?
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  Speaker 2: It's a double dip.
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  Speaker 5: You said sniffer, Moj. You smell that?
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  Speaker 2: I do. You smell that? It's a double dip. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's stinky.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, Brett Kulak. You know what's funny, Moj? Two
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  Speaker 5: games last night in which the complete opposite things happened.
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  Speaker 5: The Nuggets had a great start and a terrible finish,
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  Speaker 5: and the Avs had a terrible start and a great finish.
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  Speaker 5: So let's start with the Avs. First of all, you
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  Speaker 5: get unlucky in that first minute. You get a puck
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  Speaker 5: that bounces weird and finds the back of the net.
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  Speaker 5: And all I can think to myself is, is this
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  Speaker 5: going to be one of those road things again? You know,
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  Speaker 5: you head into that game. Were they 2-4 on the
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  Speaker 5: road heading into that game, Moj?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not good.
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  Speaker 5: So you head into that 2-4, and then you get
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  Speaker 5: that start. Now you go, ah, I've watched this game
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  Speaker 5: happen on the road a lot for the Avs this year.
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  Speaker 5: this is going to suck, isn't it? And then they
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  Speaker 5: give up another goal, and now you're down 2-0. And
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  Speaker 5: Chicago's not very good, and now I'm starting to get
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  Speaker 5: really frustrated. But it feels like once they get that
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  Speaker 5: initial just sort of kick of finding the back of
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  Speaker 5: the net once, they can pull it together. Now, they
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  Speaker 5: can do this most against a team like Chicago. When
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  Speaker 5: you play better teams, a lot more difficult, but they
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  Speaker 5: found it last night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they certainly did.
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  Speaker 6: One thing the Chicago Blackhawks do pretty well, Brett– Again,
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  Speaker 6: they're a very young team. Their top three centers are
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  Speaker 6: all first-round picks, including Bedard, number one overall. And they're learning, right?
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  Speaker 6: They're learning how to play together. They're learning what the
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  Speaker 6: league is all about. They'll come together. They've got some
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  Speaker 6: good players. They're first-round picks littered all over that lineup.
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  Speaker 6: That being said, they've got young legs, and their rush
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  Speaker 6: game is really good.
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  Speaker 8: So.
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  Speaker 6: You get unlucky on McCarr blocking that shot. And then
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  Speaker 6: what's it do?
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  Speaker 2: It trickles.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it just skids, right? Like a curling rock
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  Speaker 6: across the goal line. Blackwood has no idea where it
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  Speaker 6: is because he's in proper position for where the shot
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  Speaker 6: should go. And it's happening in slow motion. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: as I'm calling it, I'm kind of like reaching out
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  Speaker 6: from the booth just trying to stop it because I
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  Speaker 6: can see it's going in, but nobody can do anything
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  Speaker 6: about it. And then the second one, man, that's a
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  Speaker 6: two-on-one with Bedard and Kancaroff, the rookie, who's going to
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  Speaker 6: be a good one, too, for them. And they do
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  Speaker 6: that really well. And so that's something you always have
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  Speaker 6: to be careful of. But what they did at that
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  Speaker 6: moment is said, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: Screw this.
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  Speaker 6: And they went full-on hog wild. They outshot them 14-4
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  Speaker 6: in that first period. They get two back. And then
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  Speaker 6: they just built from there. It's exactly what they did.
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  Speaker 6: So they played– Let's say, Hey, let's stop screwing around
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  Speaker 6: type of game and got the job done.
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  Speaker 5: When was the goalie interference?
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  Speaker 2: That was before the apps had scored their first goal.
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  Speaker 2: So it was first period. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: See, once that started happening, when you start talking about
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  Speaker 5: being down two to nothing, and then I don't remember, literally,
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  Speaker 5: I don't remember the last time the apps have been
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  Speaker 5: on the positive side of a goalie interference call. It
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  Speaker 5: always feels like either it, it goes against them offensively
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  Speaker 5: or it goes against them defensively. It doesn't matter. Um,
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  Speaker 5: But you just, I'm glad that the Avs were able
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  Speaker 5: to sort of power through the negative start to that
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  Speaker 5: game and start to find their footing. I thought Kadri
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  Speaker 5: played great, obviously two goals. He was awesome. Jaden Schwartz
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  Speaker 5: with two goals as well. You get that production out
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  Speaker 5: of third liners, Moj, that's always going to help. I
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  Speaker 5: will say that power play still left a lot to
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  Speaker 5: be desired. Glad they got one on the board. But
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  Speaker 5: you did kind of have that feeling, didn't you? Like
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  Speaker 5: once you got to, were they at 0-4?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Before they scored on the final power play? Once you
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  Speaker 5: got to 0-4, you were like, let's fix something here, please.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were 0-4 on the power play and finally
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  Speaker 6: got it done. That was Cadry's second goal of the game.
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  Speaker 6: And again, you're clipping along right now if you're the Avs.
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  Speaker 6: I would even take the.
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  Speaker 2: I.
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  Speaker 6: Would even take like 12th, 13th in the league because
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  Speaker 6: I think that's plenty to get them by because five
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  Speaker 6: on five, they're... They're the best team in the league
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  Speaker 6: five-on-five in terms of scoring goals, dude.
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  Speaker 2: They just are.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, five-on-five, they thrive. You see some teams that
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  Speaker 6: are power play merchants where five-on-five, they're in the 20s, but, boy,
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  Speaker 6: their power play is cranked up. Then you get a
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  Speaker 6: team like the damn Oilers who are good five-on-five, and
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  Speaker 6: they're awesome on the power play. You're like, that would
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  Speaker 6: be ideal. I mean, top ten, this team would be
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  Speaker 6: offensively unstoppable. But they're still, as we sit here right
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  Speaker 6: now as we talk, now look at your face. They're
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  Speaker 6: still the top scoring team in the National Hockey League
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  Speaker 6: over a month into the season. That's who they are,
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  Speaker 6: and that's awesome. So you can say, well, it's not
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  Speaker 6: critical that it gets cranked up right now. It needs
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  Speaker 6: to get cranked up at some point. There's some frustrating
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  Speaker 6: things that I see, and we'll get into more of
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  Speaker 6: that as time goes on. I said last night at
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  Speaker 6: the broadcast, I said, look, I don't know what I
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  Speaker 6: don't know anymore. I don't know what goaltender interference is.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know what it's not. Johnny Lyle's had a
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  Speaker 6: great breakdown of a goal that counted against the Avs
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  Speaker 6: in the Philadelphia game, the Porter-Martone goal, and one that
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  Speaker 6: didn't count last night in the Landy goal.
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  Speaker 2: And people say, well, it's pretty easy. One, he was
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  Speaker 2: pushed in.
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  Speaker 6: It looks exactly the same to me. I mean, it
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  Speaker 6: looks identical. It'd be like two pass interference calls that
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  Speaker 6: looked identical. One was called, and you're like, Well, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I just, so I don't, I don't try to guess anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Riker guessed wrong last night. And then for the first
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  Speaker 6: time in a long time, Riker, I thought, oh my God,
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  Speaker 6: he may get a call from Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, that's a terrible call from Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they're looking at this. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he just went full on. Two minutes for being bad.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. And so I'm like, Ooh, mamma mia, mamma mia.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just going to sit over here and sort of hide.
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  Speaker 6: It was, so I don't, you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: what I don't know, but they got one right back
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  Speaker 6: after that, right?
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  Speaker 2: So immediately, Kadri scores. Landy gets an assist on it.
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  Speaker 2: You know what?
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  Speaker 6: It was Kadri. Here's what I love about guys like
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  Speaker 6: Kadri and Landy. You don't sit there and cry and
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  Speaker 6: spill milk. The odd man rush that Kanceroff scored on
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  Speaker 6: for Chicago was, Cattery is in full control of the
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  Speaker 6: puck and the offense is on top of the circle,
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  Speaker 6: and it just gets away from him.
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  Speaker 2: It just, like, floats off his.
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  Speaker 6: Blade to cancer off, and then he and Bedard start
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  Speaker 6: the two-on-one, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And so it was a mistake. He comes back with
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  Speaker 6: two goals and more than makes up for it. Landy,
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  Speaker 6: the same kind of story.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and I want to get back to this in
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  Speaker 5: more detail, but I do want to.
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  Speaker 6: Talk— Oh, by the way, though, did you see Landy
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  Speaker 6: being full-on captain last night?
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yes. The kid Levshinov lays a lick on Makar and
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  Speaker 6: goes up high with an elbow in the corner and
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  Speaker 6: nothing is called there.
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  Speaker 2: Knox is lit off. Makar's like, what in the holy?
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  Speaker 6: So then Marty Natchez is actually the first one that
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  Speaker 6: jumps him, which I think is awesome. So Natchez, who's
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  Speaker 6: not that kind of guy, typically jumps Levshinov. And then
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  Speaker 6: you have the whole Donnybrook. And Landy, from that point
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  Speaker 6: on in that game, would not let him go. Well,
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  Speaker 6: here's what he was in his face constantly.
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  Speaker 5: Here's what Gabe said after the game, talking about Lev
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  Speaker 5: Shanoff's hit on McCarr. Quote, I didn't like it at all.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was more than just a two-minute elbowing, too.
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  Speaker 5: I think he leaves his feet. I think he makes
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  Speaker 5: head contact. Should have been reviewed for that. If the
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  Speaker 5: refs aren't going to call it, then we got to
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  Speaker 5: take it in our own hands a little bit. That's
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  Speaker 5: what a captain sounds like, what your captain does.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. Totally.
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  Speaker 6: And he wouldn't let up on him the entire game.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he jumped him on more than one occasion. Levshinov,
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  Speaker 6: you could tell, dude, he's just a 21-year-old kid. He
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  Speaker 6: doesn't really know anything yet. He did not want any
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  Speaker 6: of that. He's like, you know, I'll tell you what,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to pass today. I'm probably going to pass tomorrow, okay?
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  Speaker 6: There's two passes. And then next time we see you,
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  Speaker 6: and you heard Kadri say in the post-game interview, he's
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  Speaker 6: probably going to have to answer for it next time
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  Speaker 6: we meet, right? Yeah. They are not going to let
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  Speaker 6: this go. And I love that about the captain. He's like, kid,
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  Speaker 6: you're going to learn quickly in this league. If you
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  Speaker 6: do something like that to a guy like that, you're
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  Speaker 6: going to have to answer at some point. And even
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  Speaker 6: though he got busted up and he went in the air,
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  Speaker 6: for some reason he jumped in the air for that.
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  Speaker 2: Pocket landing low break.
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  Speaker 5: Boom.
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  Speaker 6: It's like that's just the beginning, kid.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the beginning. But I like the kid's moxie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he took it all.
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  Speaker 5: The other gigantic positive, I think, is that Mackenzie Blackwood
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  Speaker 5: has been playing really, really well over the last handful
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  Speaker 5: of games. Remember, it was that weird start to the
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  Speaker 5: season where he gave up You know, you win 8-4
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  Speaker 5: against L.A. in the opening night, but he gives up four.
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  Speaker 5: Has a really good game against St. Louis after that.
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  Speaker 5: But the next two, gives up three goals on 19
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  Speaker 5: shots against Winnipeg in a 3-2 loss. Gives up five
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  Speaker 5: on 22 shots in a 6-3 loss to Toronto. And
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  Speaker 5: you're thinking to yourself, oh boy, I'm starting to have
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  Speaker 5: some PTSD about goalie questions and confidence in your goaltenders.
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  Speaker 5: Since that moment, Moj, I think his save percentage is
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  Speaker 5: somewhere around 920% Um, he's still at eight 99 on
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  Speaker 5: the year, but I'm saying in the games afterwards, he's
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  Speaker 5: given up basically to a night each night that he
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  Speaker 5: goes out there. And if you do that as the
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  Speaker 5: abs goalie, you're going to win 80, 90% of the
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  Speaker 5: games that you play.
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  Speaker 6: I had a really interesting conversation with Darren Pang before
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  Speaker 6: the game last night. And of course he was a
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  Speaker 6: goalie himself, right? I mean, you look at Darren Pang
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  Speaker 6: and then you see McKenzie Blackwood at six, four, you know,
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  Speaker 6: and you're like, okay, there's a big difference between eras
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  Speaker 6: in the National Hockey League. And he says, Moji, he's like,
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  Speaker 6: he just looks so athletic right now. He goes, I
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  Speaker 6: never realized how athletic he is. I said, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: he is. I said, he is, I mean, he is
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  Speaker 6: wired as a human spring. I mean, his glove hand
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  Speaker 6: right now, Brett, is so quick. His blocker's perfect. His
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  Speaker 6: flippers are, I mean, you saw the post-save where he
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  Speaker 6: just shot that left leg back, and you're like, man,
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  Speaker 6: this guy, despite his size, is really athletic.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if you just sort of leave.
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  Speaker 6: Him alone, that's what we're going to learn about in
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  Speaker 6: McKenzie Blackwood. If you just sort of leave him alone
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  Speaker 6: and just let him be his athletic self, that's when
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  Speaker 6: he's at his best, and he's going to be really
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  Speaker 6: good for you. And, of course, Wedgie will go tonight,
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  Speaker 6: and he's been terrific too. And it's a good thing
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  Speaker 6: to have. I mean, it is, because you're not going
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  Speaker 6: to need– a stellar performance every night. You're not going
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  Speaker 6: to need a Herculean effort.
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  Speaker 2: You're just going to need to give up a couple
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  Speaker 2: and you're going to be okay.
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  Speaker 5: Um, Jared Bednar is going to join us tomorrow morning
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  Speaker 5: at a special time, 9 a.m. Get your latest avalanche, uh,
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  Speaker 5: the latest on your avalanche straight from the head coach.
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  Speaker 5: It's the Jared Bednar show brought to you by Mr.
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  Speaker 5: Reuter tomorrow morning at nine o'clock on altitude sports radio, 92.5.
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  Speaker 5: So before we get to a break here, I do
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  Speaker 5: want to play this.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on. By the way, Okay, go ahead. Vic's not
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  Speaker 2: here today, by the way. Yes.
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  Speaker 5: He's feeling a little under the weather. But before we
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  Speaker 5: get to a break, I do want to say this.
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  Speaker 5: People have been telling me, I was watching the broadcast
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  Speaker 5: last night, not listening, but this is Connor McGahee's thoughts
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  Speaker 5: on goalie interference.
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  Speaker 2: I guess.
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  Speaker 5: After the coach's challenge, it was determined there was goal-tearing interference.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe it. I honestly don't believe it. That's
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  Speaker 2: a complete.
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  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 7: What are we doing in the National Hockey League? Landeskog
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  Speaker 7: is outside the blue paint, and then Spencer Knight leans
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  Speaker 7: his head out of the crease.
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  Speaker 2: Do we want to allow goals in the National Hockey.
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  Speaker 9: League or not?
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  Speaker 7: Do we want to err on the side of goalscoring
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  Speaker 7: and entertainment or not? The Avalanche did everything right in
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  Speaker 7: that sequence. Every single thing they did right. Landis God
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  Speaker 7: was barely, barely there. It was Spencer Knight who put
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  Speaker 7: his head into the white paint.
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  Speaker 2: Atop the crease.
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  Speaker 7: That should be a good goal every single day of the.
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  Speaker 2: Week and twice on Monday.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I love about this show?
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  Speaker 2: He's doing that.
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  Speaker 5: And as the radio guy, you hear action going on
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  Speaker 5: in the background. He's like, oh, and another thing. I
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  Speaker 5: just love it. What are we doing in the national
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  Speaker 5: hockey league?
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  Speaker 6: That was Riker, essentially. And, of course, I'm just going
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  Speaker 6: to sit over here and let him do the get
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  Speaker 6: crazy type of thing. That used to be me back
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  Speaker 6: in the day when I was on Radio 2, and
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  Speaker 6: he's absolutely correct. One thing I did notice today, Brett,
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  Speaker 6: we got in here– It's election day, right? It is
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  Speaker 6: election day.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, stay tuned during all the breaks
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  Speaker 5: because we have not only the attack ads on Mosher,
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  Speaker 5: Mosher is now going to start attacking other people. He's
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  Speaker 5: not going to sit back.
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  Speaker 2: And take it anymore. Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, but the thing is that if I was president,
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  Speaker 6: just make me president today, this whole back-to-back on the
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  Speaker 6: road and you lose an hour thing where you go from,
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  Speaker 6: you know, Central time to Eastern time.
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  Speaker 2: And I get into the.
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  Speaker 6: Hotel about 2.15 in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, you work on four hours sleep the
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  Speaker 2: next day. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I woke up this morning and I looked at
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  Speaker 6: myself and I go, man, last night was a 10
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  Speaker 6: pounds of meat night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. 10 pounds of meat. What are we doing?
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  Speaker 6: And then I'm thinking to myself, if I try to
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  Speaker 6: say that on the show, there are going to be
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  Speaker 6: new people on the program.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: He goes, 10 pounds of what?
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: Last night was it, for those of you who've listened
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: to the program for a while, this is like a
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: 10 pounds of meat kind of day.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: For Ole Miss.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: It looks like it.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: And I'll leave it at that. Look at my face
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: this morning. Okay, it looks like I got hit with,
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: you know, 10 pounds of meat all night.
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: So, a lot more to discuss here. Nuggets, Broncos, trade
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: deadline in a week.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Stick around.
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: It's morning again in Denver. Today, more men and women
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: will tune in to Altitude Sports Radio than ever before.
• 15:43
  Speaker 8: Nearly every guest, celebrity, and athlete will be asked a
• 15:47
  Speaker 8: question longer than a Rockies losing streak.
• 15:49
  Speaker 9: Mark Mosier, he rambles endlessly.
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: More rambling than at any time in the last four years.
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: What's the question? just spit it out already.
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: And with his questions often not ending in a question,
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: they unfortunately look forward with confusion to the future.
• 16:05
  Speaker 9: When Mark Mosher speaks, we're all lost.
• 16:08
  Speaker 8: I'm Alex Ryan, Emmy, and I approved this message.
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Ryan Harris is going to join us at eight o'clock
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: this morning. Tell you what, man. watching both the Avs
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: and the Nuggets last night, the Nuggets were the opposite
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: of the Avalanche. They had an amazing start to their game.
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: First quarter was awesome. And then Portland just kept scoring.
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: Couldn't get a stop. And I have now some bigger concerns.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: I'm not panicked about these things, but I will say this.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: I want to start here because I think this is
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: the most important thing. give Jamal Murray his flowers. He
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: is playing his ass off to start this season. Jamal
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Murray has been fantastic. In fact, the two guys who
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: get beat up on the most on this Nuggets team
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: are Jamal Murray and Christian Brown. They've been, I think,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: your two best players of the first six games of
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: the season. So the Nuggets, they lose last night. They
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: go back to 500. And Moj, I know you had
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: your own thing going on, but I can fill you
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: in on a couple of details of what was happening
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: in the middle of that game. One of them, very concerning,
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: in that Jokic doesn't look right. And this isn't like
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Jokic playing patty cake at the beginning of the season,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: like he's done before, where it's like he's not shooting.
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: He's actually shooting. He's just missing. Jokic, through six games
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: this year, is shooting 48% from the floor. He's a
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: 60% guy. And he's missing a lot of mid-range stuff.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: He's missing a lot of these bunnies that he usually hits.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Like... Right.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: Jamal can every once in a while be the best
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: player on the floor, and you can be fine with
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: that because Jokic can have an off night. Jamal can't
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: be the best guy on the floor for six games
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: in a row. Can't happen.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: That's correct.
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: You know, Brett, I noticed this, and I just saw
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: the last of that game last night because obviously we
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: were getting ready. You know, we had to do our postgame,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: and then we're getting down to the bus and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: And what I've noticed so far this season, what it
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: looks like to me, is that there have been many
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: times around the bucket. I'm not talking about from distance
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: or the elbow or anything like that. I'm talking about
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: the bread and butter around the bucket.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Where even if it's off.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: A little bit, it rolls in, like the ball finds
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: its way down to the bottom of the cylinder, right?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: I've noticed those skipping off and rolling out a lot
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: more than I ever remember with Nikola Jokic. And I
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: just sort of sloughed it off to, okay, what's the
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: early part of the– you know, it's early in the
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: season here. That stuff will start to, you know, even
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: out eventually as time goes on and so on.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: But you're right.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: Right now, the ball– I don't know what's wrong or
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: if there's anything wrong. I'm just saying this. This is
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: my amateur observation. The ball off his hand is not
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: behaving the way it typically does consistently. Does that make sense?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: And I don't know how else to categorize it other
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: than the ball is not behaving the way it typically
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: should for Nikola Jokic.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Well, here's the other thing. It's just been an overall
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: weird start to this season. You know, it had the
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: booing stuff mixed in with his comments about it was
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: like a really just weird tone to start the year with.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: And then I've mentioned this before, but I do think
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: this is important. The Nuggets have played two good games
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: this year. They played two. The second game that they
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: played against the Pelicans and the game that they played
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Friday night against Phoenix were two good games. In those games,
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Jokic looked good. He took one combined three in those
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: two games. Here's what he's done in every other one.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: He took seven in the lost OKC. He took 10
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: in that win against New Orleans the first go around.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: But remember, that was a terrible game that the Nuggets played.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: He took six in against Golden State in a loss,
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: and then last night he took seven threes against Portland. Like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: when he's doing that, it's just not the offense that
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: the Nuggets have. Now, he can shoot a three, okay?
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying he can't, but when it's a huge
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: bulk of what he's trying to do from the floor,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: it's just not the style they want to play. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: thank God for Jamal. Like, Jamal last night was pissed
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: at the end of that game because they just let
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: it go. They had a 31-19 lead in the first quarter,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and they just couldn't find a way to get momentum back,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and I'll tell you why. Because Jokic was playing poorly.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: And because Aaron Gordon has been bad all year. I
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: don't know how else to say it. Like, he doesn't
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: look right. He had a good game against OKC to
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: start the year. And Moj, in literally every other game
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: since then, Aaron Gordon looks very off. And it's very concerning.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's very concerning to me, too. Again, I don't know.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: But I wish I was closer to the situation. You
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: I wish that I was in that room more often
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: and talking to guys and getting a feel to their
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: body language in person as opposed to what I'm watching
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: on television. But physically, I can't because I'm here in
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: frigging Columbus, Ohio now, right? But I don't know what
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: it is, again, but he does not look like himself.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: And the injuries he's dealt with the past couple of
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: years I wonder about human bodies.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And I wish.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: There's got to be a doctor out there. We talk
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: about the life of running backs and the amount of
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: abuse they take, right? And every human body is built differently.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: Some can go for 20 years and it's no problem
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: at all.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Some can't.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: You know, Aaron Gordon was always a leaper and a
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: jumper and a runner and all these kind of things
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: in the early part of his career, right?
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And I just wonder.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: How much of the accumulation over the years has, even
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: if he's health, quote, healthy, and his body feels good,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: it's the behavior of the body and the reaction of
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: the human body where I just don't know. I need
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: a physiologist to try to help me out with this
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: because he just doesn't look the same as he did.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: And he's only 31 years old. We're not talking about
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: a guy. We're not talking about Uncle Jeff, okay? A
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: guy who's 36, 37. We ain't talking about that. We're
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: talking about 31, who's coming off multiple years of injury.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: I mean, physically, when you look at his body, you're like, damn,
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: he looks good. He looks like an Adonis, you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: and I love the guy, but he's not performing the
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: way he typically would either. And certainly Nikola Jokic, the
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: ball just isn't going in the cylinder for him.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: You mentioned something.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you something. Okay, go ahead.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Go ahead.
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead. No, you go ahead, and then I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: want to bring something up.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Well, the thing with AG to me, and you pointed
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: this out, he's been a guy where a lot of
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: his game up until recently has been at the rim, dunk, cut,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: use your bully ball, get inside, play that sort of game.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: He's revamped his three-point shooting. He's become a very good
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: three-point shooter over the last couple of years. But now
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: it feels like That is taking precedence over what his
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: game used to be, which was he'd bully you because
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: he is bigger and stronger than most people that are
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: on the floor. Like, he just is. He's more athletic.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: And even when his body maybe is, I don't know
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: if breaking down is the right word. I mean, it
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: probably is. But you still have to have some of
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: that to his game. He's taking half his shots from three. Like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: he's shooting 35% from three this year, which is a
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: fine number. Like, it's not great, but it's fine. He's
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: shooting 36% from the floor. That's the problem.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: He doesn't look decrepit. I don't want people to misconstrue
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: what I'm getting at here. It's just that we know
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: when we look at him, we look at players, we
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: know what their benchmark is. We know where they're when
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: they look good, we know what that looks like inherently.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: If you ask me, could I really describe it to you? Well, yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: I guess I could about the leaping and the running
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: and the so on and I guess I could describe
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: it to you, but to me it's more an intangible
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: knowledge in my head of what I know he looks
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: like when he's right.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Correct? Yes.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: And I just don't see that right now. And I
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: think that maybe he's not playing that inside pound game
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: and the elevated game because he's afraid of his body
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: doing what it did last year and he doesn't want
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: to let his teammates down again. By the way, Aaron Gordon,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: I would tell him, Dude, you've never let anybody down.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: You're not letting any fan down. You're not letting any
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: teammate down. I don't want these guys to feel like, oh,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: I'm letting everybody down. I need to try to get
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: out there, which is kind of what J.K. Dobbins has
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: done this year. I don't want you to feel like
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: that because it's not you purposely letting anybody down or
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: even not trying to let anybody down. It's a human body,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: and human bodies are completely unpredictable sons of guns. They're
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: an imperfect machine. And so if that is the case,
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: I'm not on him or anything like that. I just
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: know what I know, and he doesn't look like himself.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: Moshe, there's another big problem that you had last night,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: which is you're talking about bodies and trusting your body well.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: The Nuggets got Cam Johnson back recently in the starting lineup,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: but at the end of the game last night, Cam Johnson.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: This is where I want to go. This is where
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I want to go.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Cam Johnson dribbling to the middle of the lane. He
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: pivots to hit Jamal in the corner and immediately grabs
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: the left hammy, and there's not more... You will not
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: find a more obvious re-evaluated in four to six weeks
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: than that right there. So he's going to be gone
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: from the starting lineup for a while, so you're going
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: to be back in that mode again. And one of
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: the things that we talked about was with how cap-strung...
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: the Nuggets were heading into this season, if they take
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: injuries to that starting five, well, that limited depth that
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: you've had because you had to get guys off the
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: scrap heap in the bargain bin now become even more
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: of a problem.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, but this is where, in my opinion, this is
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: where the pivot starts to take place. We're only six
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: games into the damn season. Brett, I don't even need
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: a finalized rotation right now because you can't.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: You've got Strother out, right?
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: You've got Uh, Spencer Jones is, is what in and
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: out or he's going to, you know, that kind of
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: still out.
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: And now you, Cam Johnson.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: Cam Johnson's got this thing he's dealing with, but I, I,
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: I didn't want you to guess, but I want you
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: to look up right now. What is the just shooting
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: percentage of Trevin Brazil? What's his shooting percentage on a
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: nightly basis? Uh, you want me to look it up?
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I want to see the look on your dumb face.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: He's shooting 56% from the floor and 35% from three. Now,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: limited shots, but yes, he's very effective.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Pretty good.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: Now, I know you're going to have to have somebody
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: come off the bench in his place, but instead of
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: his 18 minutes last night and his 56% from the floor,
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: which he's been shooting, Put him in Cam Johnson's spot, right?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And you switch those minutes.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: 34 for him and 18 for Johnson.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: How much different does it look?
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. The thing is, Cam is effective
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: in that starting lineup. He's now going to be out
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: for a while. I would love to put Brazil back in.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: They did that for a couple of games before Cam
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: came back.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: But here's... Jamal was great last night. I don't want
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: him and Joker combining for... 48.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Shots a game.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: I don't want that. I mean, I don't think I
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: want that anyway. But maybe if you can take a
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: little bit of the load off in that regard.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know, dude.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: I'm intrigued by the rookie. And I don't want to
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: get too far over my skis here. But how long
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: do you need as a human being for a sample
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: size before you say, you know what, I think this
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: guy can do this or I think this guy can
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: do that?
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Whether he's like, here's the thing, Moj. You're going to
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: find out because he's going to play a lot now.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: That's just the bottom line. Not to mention that he
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: had a really nice play before half. He got a
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: steal in three steps because he's got Godzilla legs. In
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: three steps, he was at the rim. He throws down
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: a dunk with 0.2 seconds left. to cap things off.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: He's a very intriguing player. Like, I think overall, I've
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: actually been really happy with the bench. I think Marvin
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Bagley's given you some good minutes. I think Brazil's good. DeRozan,
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: I think, is starting to find what his role is
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: coming off that bench, being like, he had... probably five
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: or six possessions last night where he just went full ISO,
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: and it's like, that's what you're supposed to do, man.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: You're a scorer. Go out and score when the bench
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: unit is on the floor. Like, that's not the issue.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: The issue with the Nuggets right now, somehow, isn't the
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: problems with depth in the bench. Their issue is the
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: two guys that might matter the most, or at least
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: two of the top three, and Jokic and Aaron Gordon...
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: are playing poorly to start the year. Like, Jamal and
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Christian Brown have been great. Both of those guys. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: you would think if that's the case, then the Nuggets
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: would be rolling. But if A.G.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: And.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Nicola are, you know, combining for 40% from the floor
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: through six games, you aren't going to win a lot
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: of ball games by doing that. And that's the main problem.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Agreed. Agreed.
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to find, I can't even make a proclamation
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: at this point. I mean, we're six games in dang it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: By the way, seeing Portland rush out to their lead
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: in the division already, you know, it's early. I didn't
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: think they were going to be that good. I mean,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: they've got some.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Players, but even with dude out of the lineup, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: they battle. They're a battling team, man.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: I don't want to make any proclamations early, but are
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: they just not good enough? And I want to believe
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: that they are, or is it just the fact that
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: you've got you know, two stars, including the best player
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: on the planet, just not themselves right this second. I mean, look,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Portland's good. It's too early. Yeah, and Portland's good. It's
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: too early for me to make that determination. I'm going
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: to need more time, and I'm going to need more size.
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: I'm going to need it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Yeah, it's six games in.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: The Nuggets are definitely this, and they're definitely that. I'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: not going to do that, and you're not going to
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: get it out of me. You couldn't pry it out
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: of me with a pry bar.
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: Hey, guess what? Nikola Jokic is one of the best
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: players ever. I think he's going to find this at
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: some point. That's not my concern.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Of course he will.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: The bigger concerns that I have is that when you
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: look at, we all deem this guy, Aaron Gordon is
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: the X factor. He's the X factor of this team.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: If he plays well, this team goes to a different stratosphere.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: He just doesn't look right. And I'm kind of concerned. Man,
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: I made this comparison last year. In fact, I'll save it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: I made a comparison last year. We'll get to that
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: for a couple of minutes to start the next segment.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I do want to talk about something with the Broncos
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Back after this.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Lately, you may have been hearing ads attacking Mark Mosher. Well,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: those ads are just soft.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: You know, these days, everything is an attack ad. Good.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Here's one for you. DMACC is a bike-riding dill hole.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Vote Mosher.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Vote Mosher. He's not a bike-riding dill hole.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I'm Mark Mosher, and I approve this message.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: All right, Ryan Harris is going to join us at
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: 8 o'clock. I'll get to the Broncos in a second,
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: but I'd like to make a comparison because I said
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: this last year, and it scares me a little bit.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: And it scares me in this sense. Comparison I made
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: to a player last year, Moj, regarding Aaron Gordon, in
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: which I wanted to get your guys' thoughts on if
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: we're heading down this track, and I really hope we aren't.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: But there was a player that was very, very famous
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: for high-flying, big dunks, interior presence. Later in his career,
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: tried to build a three-point shooting game to extend and
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I think lengthen his career. And that would be Blake Griffin.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: But here's the problem with Blake Griffin. As much as
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: teammates loved him, he was an affable guy. He was
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: somebody who always had a smile on his face, was
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: a great interviewer, all these different things. He just couldn't
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: stay healthy. And it kind of happened when he turned
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: about 30 years old. So he got traded from L.A.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: When he was 28.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Thank you, Nelly. You called this coffee?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. But.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Did he just bring you a cup of coffee?
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: I had my coffee on there. I said, can you
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: just grab it when we get back on the air?
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: I feel like a jerk into asking people to do that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: It's not like he's not my slave.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Steven, we love you. You know we do.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: I make fun of your flute playing and your dumb mustache.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: The fact that your hair is too bushy and looks ridiculous.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: I do do that, but we do love you. You
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: are nobody's personal valet, bro.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: I agree with you.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: You make that... You make that redheaded stranger wait until
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: the break. If he can't do it on his own time,
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: then he can't do it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: What I said to Nelly, by the way, I go,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, this is going to sound like me being
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: a bleep hole, but just when we get on the air,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: can you grab my coffee? I really need one right now.
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: And I used the fancy one that takes eight minutes
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: to make a coffee.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: That's a problem. Oh, you really need one? Look at
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: my face, okay? Look at my face and then tell
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: me you need coffee.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Don't you do this to me. You don't have a
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: daughter that is refusing to sleep, okay? I understand that
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: you had a rough night too. I've been living this
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: for like five straight days. I'm in one right now.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I'm hurting. Okay. Well, then let me say this.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Brett, I admire your procreation skills, but maybe you ought
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: to think about that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Well, it's just we're in it, Moshe. A little too
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: late to go back and put that toothpaste back in the.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Tube.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, Brett. Next time, you know what?
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: If you don't have any cash to tip me, maybe
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: you can find a different way to compensate me.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: But hang on.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Going back to this. It's Blake Griffin right around the
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: age of 30 started getting hurt a lot. So his
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: age 30 season, he only played in 18 games. The
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: following year, he only played in 46. The year after that,
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: he played in 56. The year after that, 41 at
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: 33 years old. And then he never played basketball again.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: But his numbers each year went down and down and down.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: His minutes went down and down and down. I'm just
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: concerned that it feels like AG is going along that
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: same sort of train because they had a very similar
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: style of game. They've tried to revamp their careers in
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: different ways later. They were still very important players of
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: their teams. But if you can't, And I'm not saying
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: that he's hurt. Maybe he's not. Maybe he's just a
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: bad stretch of games. It very well could be. All
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: I'm saying is it looks different for him right now.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: That's all. Well, it does.
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: And I know we're going to get to the Broncos here.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: We'll talk to Ryan at the top. I think that's
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: an excellent comparison, Brett. But here's what I think about A.G.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: I know for a fact with Blake Griffin, his body
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: just wore out quickly. I mean, Blake Griffin, in his
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: 20s in the NBA, Brett, he was airborne for about
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: half the time he was on the floor. I mean,
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: he was in the air half the time, was he not?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: Or it felt like it. And how many times did
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: he come down? And he was a thicker guy, too.
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: He's not like he was some skinny dude just kind
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: of floating around the gym. Dude, he was a thunderous
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: kind of guy at times, right?
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: And you just think about the ankles and the feet
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: and the knees and the hips and, you know, and backs.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: These are big men who are flying thunderously through the
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: air at 235, 240 pounds. Big dudes, man. And they're
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: only human beings and they land and they take those
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: consecutive impacts on their joints and everything else. And it's
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: all this, you know, it's back in this lower body
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: stuff because these guys are so strong. And their muscles
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: can propel them to great heights, which is why Vic
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: could never dunk in his life, ever. These guys' bodies
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: propel them to great heights and great feats of athleticism
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: and acrobatics, and then they've got to come back down
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: to earth.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And they're not landing on a cushy bed of rabbit fur.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: They're landing on a hardwood floor.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: It takes a toll, I understand.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: It's just to me, he's too.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Important to this team's success that if he can't get right,
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: then this team's going to have a lot of problems. Like,
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: they're going to struggle a lot.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: But how about this? How about this?
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Let me go a different route. Here's the more optimistic route.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Let's say that AG physically is fine. He just is
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: trying to deal with the mental hurdles of not wanting
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: to re-injure his body.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: That he knows how important he is to this club.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: He knows that he's a major cog to the success
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: of this team, and he's just trying to right now
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: work his way back into being AG, but he's not
• 37:55
  Speaker 6: going to be reckless about it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: How about that? Maybe.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: And again, it's still early in the year. It's just
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: one of the observations. Here's another one I have. We're
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: a week away from the trade deadline. I've seen a
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: lot of people talking about this. Adam Schefter mentioned it
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: to us yesterday. I saw Dan Graziano said something about
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: it on ESPN earlier. And they're talking about the Broncos
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: heading into this trade deadline if they're going to be
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: in on Jonathan Taylor. And they've all said something to
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: the effect of, hey, Jonah Coleman's looked good the last
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks. Well, Yes, he has. I like Jonah Coleman.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: I don't think, if you remember, Moj, the day after
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: the draft, when we were doing our post-draft show, I
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: was the one pounding the table being like, I don't
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: think people understand how good this Jonah Coleman out of
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: Washington is. That he's a between-the-tackles type of running back.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: He's smaller, but he's thick. Like, shorter, but thick. He
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: can hide behind offensive linemen. Like, he's very effective at
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the thing that you need to back up J.K. Dobbins
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: if J.K. gets hurt again. I was all in on
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: the pick. I don't think there's any world in which
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: you say, nah, we got Jonah Coleman, we're good. Like,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: that's all I'm saying. I think you, if there's any
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: time for the Broncos to be hyper aggressive in a
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: category that they desperately need to improve on, it's this.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: And it's because we can talk about trading for tight ends.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think that there's anybody that's super valuable that's
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: on the market, in that category right now. We can
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: talk about, you know, ESPN had– I'm looking at it
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: right now. They're doing overreaction or not an overreaction is
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: the segment. The Chiefs and Broncos both need to trade
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: for a wide receiver. The Broncos don't need to trade
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: for a wide receiver. The Broncos need their quarterback to
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: get their wide receivers the ball.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: A running game.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: But guess what happens, Zilmo?
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: There's no passing that's involved in giving the ball to
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor. You literally hand it to him and say,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: go do something. That's the easy part. It's not involving
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: two different parties to make something happen. And especially with R.J.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Harvey on IR now, you need to make a move
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: of some sort, I think, at the deadline. If you don't,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: it's a massive missed opportunity. This team is Super Bowl
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: good on defense.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: It is great.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Maybe the offense is good enough to win a Super Bowl,
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: as we've witnessed for the first six weeks of the season.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Seven weeks, sorry. But, God, it would make things a
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: hell of a lot easier if you had a top
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: five running back in the league in your backfield. And
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: he's available.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's a difference between good backs and special backs.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: And Taylor, in my opinion, is a special back.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: If I had a nickel over the years, Brett, for
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: every running back that's come into the league that, you know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: you're like, oh, I think this guy has a– and
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: they end up just being a good back.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Good back. Right? Career in the league, good back.
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: It's rare to have a special back, which is why, again,
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: I think that Jonathan Taylor is going to command– I mean, the.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: 2-3-4-5 is pretty– that's a pretty good haul.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: You know, and if you get into a bidding war,
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: all it takes is two teams to bid– hey, look,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: I'll throw in a one because hopefully that pick will
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: be 32. Those teams, when they think like that, hopefully
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: it won't be 11, it'll be 32, right? You're not
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: going to have the Tennessee Titans saying, I'll trade for
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor, and it's going to be the fourth overall
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: or third overall. So, yeah, I completely agree with you
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: and see what you're saying. I mean, now's the time
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: to do it. Teams that can string together wins and
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: become a Super Bowl contender when their quarterback's on the
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: rookie deal, that's a hell of a good place to be.
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: A really good place to be. So this is a
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: case where strike while the iron is hot.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you one other thing just real quick. I
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen here, but I would
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: say this is something to monitor. I don't know what
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: the Ravens are going to do. They're 500 right now.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Their quarterback is likely gone for a bulk of the season.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: They're probably not making the playoffs. There's talk, is that
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson's last game he's ever played in Baltimore? Like,
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: is he going, are they going to move on from
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: him in the offseason? If they are talking about restarting
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: and look, Moj, they kicked this thing into gear last
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: offseason when they fired John Harbaugh. Like, if you're thinking
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: about making a big shift, like, Lamar can't stay healthy anymore.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: He's hurt every season for like at least a month,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: if not more. And that throws a wrench in all
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: of their playoff plans. Well, now you start looking at
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Derrick Henry like, would they consider moving him? He's an
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: older guy. If you aren't making the playoffs this year,
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: is that somebody you feel like you can get value
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: off of?
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: They play in two days, which complicates this because they
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: have Thursday night. But let's say they're playing against Jacksonville.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: They're probably going to get smoked. If they lose to
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Jacksonville and they're in four and five, maybe they start
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: opening up their phone lines and say, well, what do
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: you got?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Like, there's a lot of things to monitor here as
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: we head into next week.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: I think they're going to lose to Jacksonville. And I
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: think they will be four and five. And the Dame
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: Steelers are six and two.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: The Bengals are five and two. The odds of you
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: and the Browns for crying out loud are five and three.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: I don't even know how they got there. But the
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: odds of you being last in the AFC North right
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: now without your starting quarterback. What's the story on Snoop?
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: What's his story?
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay.
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: Well, if you're going with Farragut, what's the third dude's name?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Fagnano. Fagnano.
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: Fagnano.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a Funiano.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: He's got a turf toe. I mean, that's not something
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: you come back from in a week.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: If you're going with fungus as your starting quarterback, your
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: third street fungus, you ain't coming back in that division.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Not with everybody having been above 500 before this past week.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll see. I think there's a real opportunity
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: that maybe the Ravens open things up. Now, we can
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: talk more about this with Ryan Harris, who joins us
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: in just a couple of minutes.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Stick around.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: The election is here, and it's time to crush oranges
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: with your man, Mark Mosher.
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: My opponent says he went to Syracuse, but did he really? Honestly,
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: who cares? No one even knows what the orange is.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: Not even DMACC. Vote Mosher all day and all night.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Vote Mosher.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I'm Mark Mosher, and I approve this message.