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Reviewing the Most Thorough Freemason Exposé Ever Made · Under the Docs

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Speaker 1: Masons are evil except for Ben Franklin, the literal Satan
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Speaker 1: worshiping orgy master that had the bought like the bones
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Speaker 1: of children found under his house, right, he was one
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Speaker 1: of the good ones.
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Speaker 2: Under the ducks, Yeah, under the dogs, very fradular. Looks funny.
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Speaker 2: Could they rise the shots? They connect the dogs under
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Speaker 2: the docks, undon the ducks, Yeah, undon the docks.
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Speaker 3: Under the docks, oh madies.
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Speaker 1: And today we're going to figure out why Masons are
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Speaker 1: bad except for some of them, but most of them,
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Speaker 1: except for like of these one to four guys. But
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Speaker 1: it's gonna get a little bit complicated, it's gonna get
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Speaker 1: a little bit long. This is probably on par with
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Speaker 1: Moneymaster's level documentary. This one alone, I think was just
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Speaker 1: shy at three hours and it's one part of a
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Speaker 1: three part series, and I'm sure it's essentially gonna be
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Speaker 1: about ten hours worth of video, but about forty hours
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Speaker 1: worth of research. So I guess let's dive into this one.
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Speaker 1: It's called Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings, Volume one, which
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Speaker 1: is also a pretty damn long name. And then there's
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Speaker 1: more to it, The New Atlantis. So this came in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and six. It was directed by a guy
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Speaker 1: named Christian J. Pinto, and if you look into his
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Speaker 1: other body of work, it's actually it looks like things
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Speaker 1: that we would find interesting outside of even this one
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Speaker 1: little trilogy series. So he's a founder of a thing
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Speaker 1: called a Doulam Films, which is a Christian film ministry
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Speaker 1: that's dedicated to quote defending the Gospel of Jesus Christ
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Speaker 1: through film and video production. The thing is an interesting ministry.
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Speaker 1: It's like an av Nerd ministry. And he's also a
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Speaker 1: host of a podcast called Noise of Thunder and he's
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Speaker 1: got a huge backlog Ancient Illuminati Riddles and Stone Another
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Speaker 1: Secret Mysteries Harry Potter, a Spirit Conspiracy, The Secret Mysteries
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Speaker 1: of the Lamp and the Dark, and the Untold history
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Speaker 1: of the Bible, hidden faith of the Founding Fathers. So
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Speaker 1: you can see that there's a theme going on with this.
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Speaker 1: It's like early American conspiracy lore, which is a million
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Speaker 1: percent like right up my angle.
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Speaker 4: It reminded me of like just watching this film of
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Speaker 4: like this is what History Channel would be if they
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Speaker 4: could say whatever they want, right and.
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Speaker 1: If they were funded by like a Christian ministry. Essentially,
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Speaker 1: Plot in the Course, I'm actually gonna lean a little
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Speaker 1: bit on the video's own description because it makes a
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Speaker 1: lot of promises and we actually get into all these things.
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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable how many topics of that. So this is
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Speaker 1: the videos owned description for Plot in the Course. You
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Speaker 1: will understand why Bush ordered the invasion of Afghanistan and
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Speaker 1: Iraq in the president's own words, with a historic link
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Speaker 1: back to fifteen eighty, You're gonna go back four hundred
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Speaker 1: and twenty five years to the origins of America with
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Speaker 1: Francis Bacon and Queen Elizabeth. You're going to learn behind
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Speaker 1: the scenes oddities of why Washington, DC is located precisely
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Speaker 1: on the seventy seventh meridian, why the original five colonial
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Speaker 1: cities are built in precise alignment with each other and
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Speaker 1: with Stonehenge on lay lines, whether America was founded as
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Speaker 1: a Christian nation or if it's based in Pagan traditions.
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Speaker 1: How Ben Franklin fulfilled his duties to both the British
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Speaker 1: Freemasons and to the Americans without being a turncoat for
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Speaker 1: one or the other. And why did the British intelligence
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Speaker 1: give Franklin a code name Moses, along with maybe Shakespeare
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Speaker 1: didn't know how to write his own name, and many
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Speaker 1: many more. So it's like the greatest hits of ancient
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Speaker 1: like American early history. And right up front, I just
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Speaker 1: want to note that this entire documentary is based mostly
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Speaker 1: on a book by Manly palmer Hall that was called
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Speaker 1: The Secret Destiny of America, I believe eve and then
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Speaker 1: that itself was a book written about Francis Bacon's at
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Speaker 1: New Atlantis. So in order to really understand all the
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Speaker 1: context of this documentary, those are the two different books
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Speaker 1: that it's sort of sourcing.
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Speaker 6: That said, you don't have to read either of those books.
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Speaker 1: I don't think you can watch this documentary and get
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Speaker 1: a pretty good understanding. So I actually have read many
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Speaker 1: palmer Hall's of Secret Dusty of America, but have you
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Speaker 1: read either of the books that they mentioned in.
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Speaker 5: This I have not.
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Speaker 6: I you're a layman, right, You're a straight man layman, So.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just go on.
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Speaker 4: And I had never even seen this documentary, so I'm like,
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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know much of it. I've heard
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Speaker 4: little bits and pieces of what since iide this documentary,
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Speaker 4: but I've never watched this all together or reading the book.
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Speaker 5: So it was all pretty fascinating to me.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna do my absolute best to summarize this
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Speaker 1: in like small chunks, just so I'm not talking NonStop here,
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Speaker 1: because this is this is a documentary worth discussing. So
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Speaker 1: I mentioned it's it's based on Manley Palmer Hall book
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Speaker 1: and Francis Bacon's book, and the the overline of where
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Speaker 1: this documentary takes it is that they say this that
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Speaker 1: the original book of Francis Bacon inspires Ben Franklin, and
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Speaker 1: that this connection between Ben Franklin and Francis Bacon involves
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Speaker 1: the Book of Enoch, involves Kabbala and involves John d
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Speaker 1: the original Double Seven, and then the directly influences Bacon,
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Speaker 1: and then through Bacon, who is running freemasonry and Rosicrucianism
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Speaker 1: that through the Rosicrucion arm he becomes this inspiration for
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Speaker 1: modern day alchemy and talking to angels and a Nocchian
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Speaker 1: magic and all of like this New Age theory. And
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Speaker 1: then through him running Freemasonry gives him direct influence over
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Speaker 1: George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and ultimately the founding and direction
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Speaker 1: of America as a whole. So that that's that's the
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Speaker 1: main claim, is that Francis Bacon, John d and then America.
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Speaker 5: And that they're starting right.
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Speaker 4: Like the main theme to me that I've seen throughout
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Speaker 4: the film was obviously in the title that they're discovering
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Speaker 4: the New Atlantis, right, Like that was like they're like
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Speaker 4: theme throughout the film that they keep bringing up, like, hey,
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Speaker 4: this is the new Atlantis, right. And also I found
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Speaker 4: it funny like that what you said it kind of
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Speaker 4: in the in the beginning intro of where it's like the.
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Speaker 5: Good Masons versus the bad Masons.
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Speaker 4: Right like throughout this film too, they're like, well, yeah,
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Speaker 4: he was a Mason too, but he's h They weren't friends,
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Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, And you're like, oh, okay,
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Speaker 4: so it's just human beings that don't get along sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're definitely gonna get into all that. And like,
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Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite dynamics of this documentary is
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Speaker 1: you can't quite tell exactly where they stand on any
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Speaker 1: of these people. Like, for example, George Washington. They talk
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Speaker 1: about him with reverence, like, man, this guy found in America.
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Speaker 1: He fought back against the British, the ultimate rebel free Mason.
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Speaker 1: But for the last thirty years he like didn't go
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Speaker 1: up to lodge very often. He only went like a
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Speaker 1: few times. So they're like, and I guess to read
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Speaker 1: between the lines, are saying, like, so he was like
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Speaker 1: one of the good ones, Like he wasn't out there,
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Speaker 1: you know, killing people and eating people or something, and
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Speaker 1: like these dark rituals, so that it's it's funny to
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Speaker 1: see them dance around because then they'll do that with
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Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin. They'll do it with a whole bunch of
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Speaker 1: different people. So the I guess to break down the
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Speaker 1: Atlantis thing much respect to this documentary because whenever they
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Speaker 1: mention something, they do go into pretty much deep details
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Speaker 1: so that you understand exactly where the sources of their
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Speaker 1: claims come from. Aside from some of the claims against Freemasonry.
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Speaker 1: But it starts basically with Plato and they're talking about
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Speaker 1: this concept where he was in Greece and Greece's and turmoil,
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Speaker 1: and they send this guy Salon to Egypt to get
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Speaker 1: answers from these great priests, and the old priests basically
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Speaker 1: laughed at him, and they were telling them, like, you
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Speaker 1: guys think that you're so far advanced in Greece, but
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Speaker 1: you're just children compared to Atlantis. And then he goes
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Speaker 1: on to describe how Atlantis was this far more advanced
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Speaker 1: civilization that basically fell, but that they had technology and
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Speaker 1: knowledge and things that dwarfed even what Greece thought they
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Speaker 1: had in modern times. So when you talk about New Atlantis,
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Speaker 1: you're also talking about not just the specific place that
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Speaker 1: Plato brought up, but the concept that no matter how
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Speaker 1: far advanced we think our technology and civilization, is that
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Speaker 1: there was something before us that was even way more
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Speaker 1: advanced and they fell or left or something, right, they
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Speaker 1: mysteriously disappeared.
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Speaker 4: And whatever they mean by advance, right, I always think
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Speaker 4: that's a key word, Like what do you mean by advance?
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Speaker 4: Like did they have the similar technology like I've always
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Speaker 4: looked at it as like, Okay, their technology of their
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Speaker 4: time was suitable for what they were doing. But I
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Speaker 4: do understand the concept because it seems like there's a
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Speaker 4: portion of the world that thinks that there's this ancient
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Speaker 4: society that's way smarter than all of us.
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Speaker 5: But then on the other turn, there's people that.
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Speaker 4: Are like, we're way smarter than those dumb cavemen, and
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Speaker 4: it's like, I feel like we're all like on that
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Speaker 4: same level. But yeah, I think that the idea it's
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Speaker 4: chasing the New Atlantis is almost like chasing the Armageddon. Right,
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Speaker 4: It's a little bit different, but it's the same thing
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Speaker 4: that humans seem to be always chasing this magical place
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Speaker 4: like I'm going to Heaven or New Atlantis, I'm creating,
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Speaker 4: I'm better, I'm smarter, I'm more technological, or that there
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Speaker 4: was a society that was.
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Speaker 1: I think another way that I tend to think about
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Speaker 1: this is that the version that we have right now
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Speaker 1: of what technology means and how far advanced we are collectively,
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Speaker 1: it's just a series of business decisions. Like the dumbest
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Speaker 1: version would be VHS and Beta MAX. Right, Well, the
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Speaker 1: world went with VHS and then a million of those
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Speaker 1: different decisions that we go with AC or DC Electric,
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Speaker 1: while we went with AC because they took out Tesla's
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Speaker 1: financiers and they sunk them on the Titanic. We'll get
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Speaker 1: into that at some other point. But all of what
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Speaker 1: we've got now in terms of technology, it's just this company.
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Speaker 1: He beat out this company. So is it that hard
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Speaker 1: to believe that sometime in history that same thing kind
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Speaker 1: of played itself out to where people had electricity and
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Speaker 1: running water and plumbing and like any kind of modern
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Speaker 1: convenience you can think of, just maybe in a different way,
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Speaker 1: maybe they went with you know, Beta tapes and maybe
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Speaker 1: they went with DC Electric or just you would extrapolate
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Speaker 1: that to something that's completely unfamiliar to us. So I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's that crazy. Even the premise of like
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Speaker 1: the Pyramids when we were watching some of the other
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Speaker 1: like alien documentaries, that some of the engineering techniques and
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Speaker 1: the masonry techniques are kind of outside of our grasp currently.
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Speaker 1: Even if you had the resources, it just wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: feasible in any possible way. So it doesn't seem that
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Speaker 1: crazy that the concept of an atlantis just meaning whatever
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Speaker 1: we think we got someone else had something better at
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Speaker 1: some earlier point and they lost it.
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Speaker 4: And also like uh, for when you go back to
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Speaker 4: masonry or even like like the sixteen chap and so
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Speaker 4: like people are.
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Speaker 5: Like, well, we can't do it.
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Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, that guy also had like eighteen hours
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Speaker 4: a day to six months, eight months, a couple of
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Speaker 4: years to just do that one thing.
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Speaker 5: Most people nowadays are doing multiple things.
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Speaker 4: Like you're not just dedicating like your whole life to
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Speaker 4: like I'm paying this chapel or I'm building this pyramid.
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Speaker 5: I think you get.
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Speaker 4: More ingenuity like when you're kind of like building something
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Speaker 4: and you're doing it every day compared to like, oh,
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Speaker 4: I'm clocking out of work now, I'm gonna go do
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Speaker 4: this podcasting. Now I'm gonna go do you know, like
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Speaker 4: these other multiple things that we're doing, You're focus on
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Speaker 4: one thing.
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Speaker 5: I think it helps and it makes you create better technology.
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Speaker 1: And plus if you're getting funded by the king and
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Speaker 1: the church as like your clients, yeah they might have
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Speaker 1: a little bit more money and resources than just like
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Speaker 1: some random projects. So okay, I'm not going to start
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Speaker 1: doing like a little I wish we could have a counter.
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Speaker 1: In fact, make sure you like and subscribe and do
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Speaker 1: all the things right now. So if we get poppular enough,
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Speaker 1: we can do fun things like have a little real
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Speaker 1: time counter. But imagine there's one in the bottom corner
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Speaker 1: whenever I mention these. So here's the first kind of
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Speaker 1: flip flop on Masonry this movie does.
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Speaker 6: Is they seem to hold Manly Palmer Hall in high reverence, don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't hear them say a single negative thing about
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Speaker 1: Manley Palmer Hall at any point, because he's ultimately the
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Speaker 1: source for a lot of this interpretation of then Francis
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Speaker 1: Bacon's work. So they mentioned that many Palmer Hall said
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Speaker 1: that Atlantis extended throughout the entire world like a commonwealth.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're familiar with the concept of Tartaria,
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Speaker 1: it's like that, like Tartari is just another version of
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Speaker 1: Atlantis in many different ways. So if you believe in
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Speaker 1: Tartarian theory, you already believe in Atlantean theory without realizing it.
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Speaker 1: And that Manley Palmer Hall wrote over two hundred books
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Speaker 1: eight thousand lecturers, and that Scottish wright called him Masonry's
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Speaker 1: greatest philosopher. So there's a lot of hate of Manley
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Speaker 1: Palmer Hall and some little Masonic pockets. I think it's
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Speaker 1: specially in the European Masonry. But here's one the little
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Speaker 1: tally that goes up of like, here's one of the
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Speaker 1: good ones, right, because we're gonna hear about like bad
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Speaker 1: Masons and good Masons. So I guess many Palmer Hall
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Speaker 1: gets a pass because they don't really have anything negative
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Speaker 1: to say about them.
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Speaker 5: Well, what good guys?
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Speaker 1: All right, Here's another fun thing is that not only
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Speaker 1: do we get Bill Still in this documentary, the guy
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Speaker 1: from Money Masters. As soon as he showed up, it
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I know that we're we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: in for taking some serious notes, but this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be well worth the watch.
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Speaker 6: But also you, I don't know if you noticed this.
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Speaker 1: Did you recognize the older dude with like the beard
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Speaker 1: and the glasses. Did you look familiar in anyway or
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Speaker 1: is he just like another talking head?
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Speaker 5: He looks a little bit familiar, but I don't really
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Speaker 5: know who he is.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So the another person that is kind of acting
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Speaker 1: as a subject matter expert. They're called smeez in the industry.
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Speaker 1: So one of the SMEEs uh, he's this guy named
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Speaker 1: William Schnolan Schnobelen. I'm probably butchering that. But William Schnobelin
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Speaker 1: came out in the nineteen eighties or so and basically
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Speaker 1: said that he had made it to some high level
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Speaker 1: Illuminati Freemasonry degree and they told him it was all
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Speaker 1: about Satanic worship and Lucitherianism, and he exited the freemasonry
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Speaker 1: and kind of became an exposer, right, but it was
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Speaker 1: very sensational. It was like ex Satanist, you know, discloses
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Speaker 1: all secrets of Masonry about how they're evil and doing
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Speaker 1: blood ritual in the eighties right where this isn't Internet culture.
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Speaker 6: So this guy's been doing this.
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Speaker 1: He's kind of been on the circuit, and I've seen
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Speaker 1: him on a lot of like Prophecy Club and seven
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Speaker 1: hundred Club and all these different things. So but it's
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Speaker 1: interesting that he's in here because usually he's leaning into
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Speaker 1: like I was in a Satanic, you know, Illuminati cult
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Speaker 1: for my entire life.
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Speaker 6: That's usually his shtick.
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Speaker 1: In here, he just seems like some old librarian that
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Speaker 1: happens to no little bit about Washington, d c.
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Speaker 6: And a little bit about masonry, right.
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Speaker 1: So it kind of just like set a little because
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Speaker 1: when I first saw this, I don't think that I
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Speaker 1: had recognized him as easily because I saw this when
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Speaker 1: it came out back in two thousand and six.
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Speaker 4: But now you're like, yeah, because I didn't realize that
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Speaker 4: at all. And he is very subtle about it, and
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Speaker 4: he's one of the guys kind of going, well, he's
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Speaker 4: pretty good, like that one's okay.
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Speaker 1: That's what shocked me so much, man, because I've seen
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Speaker 1: the things that he says about masonry being all these
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Speaker 1: useful idiots. But it's really hard now to leverage that
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Speaker 1: and be like in Ben Franklin, George Washington, they were
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Speaker 1: idiots too, they didn't realize what was going on, but
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Speaker 1: they also founded this country, and they also operated in
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Speaker 1: all these intricate spy rings and they were smart guys.
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Speaker 1: But maybe they were duped or maybe they were just good.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to figure out where they're trying to pin this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and this a little take on the Benjamin Franklin.
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Speaker 4: I liked how they like were like in Benjamin Franklin
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Speaker 4: loved whores. He was an originator of OnlyFans and they're like, boy,
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Speaker 4: he's a good guy. Like if they all po to Moss,
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Speaker 4: Like the shift between some of this stuff kind of
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Speaker 4: like was comical to me because they were like, like,
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Speaker 4: I think they're like going hard on Benjamin Franklin and
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Speaker 4: they're like, no, but you know, he kind of freed
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Speaker 4: the people and he did a lot for America, so
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Speaker 4: give him his respect.
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Speaker 1: I like the sort of hypocritical nature of some of
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Speaker 1: the claims in this, I don't know. I think it
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Speaker 1: adds to it, doesn't remove from it. So the other
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Speaker 1: main point that they lead into is they talk about
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Speaker 1: how the movie National Treasure with Nicholas Cage was essentially
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Speaker 1: a propaganda piece for Freemasonry, and I just want to say,
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Speaker 1: wholeheartedly agreed, and all of Freemasons also agree with that.
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Speaker 1: That's not a secret conspiracy. Masons, I think as a
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Speaker 1: whole love that movie. And they talk about it being
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Speaker 1: like one of the better recruitment tools, like they actually
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Speaker 1: saw it a tiny spike, but they saw a spike
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Speaker 1: in interest and membership when that movie came out because
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, people are like, I can
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Speaker 1: find gold and treasure. So they got they got intrigued.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, one hundred percent, but personally I don't I
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Speaker 1: don't know if Freemasonry has the money or the funds
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Speaker 1: at the time in the twenty first century to be like, now,
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Speaker 1: let's make a multimillion dollar blockbuster movie.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 1: I think that it's a fun topic, and they lean
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Speaker 1: into it and they support it, and they want that
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Speaker 1: movie to exist, and they love that it exists. But
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Speaker 1: I can't see Mason's coming together and making anything that entertaining.
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Speaker 4: So you're telling me that Masons don't have enough money.
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Speaker 4: They keep up in their dues, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: They're gonna get it, man, and they're pretty I don't
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Speaker 4: know if you know. The mason have like their little
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Speaker 4: corner in Hollywood.
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Speaker 5: Man.
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Speaker 4: But no, I agree with you that it's kind of
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Speaker 4: obvious about the National Treasure.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't like a hidden secret.
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Speaker 4: And then of course you're gonna get a little spike
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Speaker 4: like but it's not like everybody. That's more of the
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Speaker 4: people that go, ooh, I need some toothpaste, or you
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Speaker 4: see a commercial, ooh Chipotle sounds good. Like not there's
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Speaker 4: there's not a large number of people that are like,
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Speaker 4: you know what, now, I'm going to go in the masonry.
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Speaker 4: From what Nicholas Cage convinced me and like.
19:06
Speaker 6: There's a few. I guarantee you sure a few.
19:09
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like the leap of being like that
19:13
Speaker 4: just opened the doors like to mainstream masonry. And you're like, yeah,
19:17
Speaker 4: but not a few, but not like enough to make significance.
19:20
Speaker 5: I don't think not.
19:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's enough to be significant. And
19:24
Speaker 1: the reason why this documentary, they're the ones that bring
19:28
Speaker 1: it up, not me, right, They're the ones that go
19:30
Speaker 1: hard at National Treasure, and they kind of end it
19:32
Speaker 1: with and this is a bad thing. It's a bad
19:35
Speaker 1: thing that National Treasure is pro Mason because it misleads
19:39
Speaker 1: about the benign nature of freemasonry. It makes you think
19:43
Speaker 1: that it's good and it's it's hiding what they've really
19:46
Speaker 1: been guarding for the last three thousand years. And then
19:49
Speaker 1: it kind of goes into the next segment. I just
19:51
Speaker 1: want to say, like, I don't know, man, the three
19:53
Speaker 1: thousand years claim right off the bat like flags are
19:56
Speaker 1: going up, but we'll get to that. So this is
20:00
Speaker 1: where they get into the lay lines and stuff. And
20:04
Speaker 1: if you're not familiar with lay lines, they're these powerful
20:08
Speaker 1: theoretical circles of power. And I guess an easy example
20:13
Speaker 1: will be the equator, right, like we know that there's
20:15
Speaker 1: an exact quator. I guess even if you're in flat
20:18
Speaker 1: Earth this equator. Let's ignore flat Earth just for the
20:22
Speaker 1: simplicity of this. So if you live on the equator,
20:25
Speaker 1: you know a specific area and it has properties like
20:28
Speaker 1: it's hotter certain times of the year, and it goes
20:30
Speaker 1: through different weather patterns. So that's an obvious version of
20:35
Speaker 1: what you might call a lay line. But then there's
20:37
Speaker 1: a lot of other ones that aren't necessarily in exact spots,
20:41
Speaker 1: and that these lay lines are identified by different locations,
20:46
Speaker 1: different cities or historical sites, and then if you plot
20:49
Speaker 1: them out on a map and then draw lines through them,
20:52
Speaker 1: then certain ones that have like X number of important places,
20:57
Speaker 1: that's considered a lay line, and then people trace that.
21:00
Speaker 1: So where they're finding important things in Europe, they're also
21:03
Speaker 1: finding important things in like California or Nevada or something
21:06
Speaker 1: that also happen to be on these like linear lines
21:10
Speaker 1: that go around the globe. So that's the premise of
21:13
Speaker 1: the lay line, and they start leaning into how Boston,
21:17
Speaker 1: New York, Baltimore, Washington, d C, Philadelphia, And I mentioned
21:22
Speaker 1: the intro Stonehenge. They throw a few other ones in there,
21:25
Speaker 1: and they say that these are all basically on this
21:29
Speaker 1: lay line, that they're all directly aligned with each other.
21:32
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting claim that they start to make,
21:34
Speaker 1: although they don't really go into and here's why that matters,
21:38
Speaker 1: or here's what lay lines specifically do. It's more about
21:41
Speaker 1: the founders of these cities, specifically in the US new
21:45
Speaker 1: and we're intentionally putting all of these cities in direct
21:49
Speaker 1: alignment with each other.
21:51
Speaker 4: I feel like the purpose of it was to like
21:53
Speaker 4: give the mistique to the Masons and like, you know,
21:55
Speaker 4: these three thousand years of knowledge that you don't understand
21:59
Speaker 4: they knew, and we're connecting it two stoneheads. That's how
22:02
Speaker 4: I kind of grasped it through watching it where they're like,
22:05
Speaker 4: because they didn't go to detail on it, but they
22:07
Speaker 4: kind of were like, see, if they knew this, then
22:09
Speaker 4: they know. It's almost like they're and not intentionally maybe
22:11
Speaker 4: maybe it's a subconscious thing, but it's kind of like
22:14
Speaker 4: giving you the mystique of the Masons that they've been
22:16
Speaker 4: around for so long that there's stuff you don't know
22:18
Speaker 4: that they know about, but we're not going to tell you.
22:21
Speaker 1: And so when this movie came out two thousand and six,
22:24
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been impossible, but it has been actually
22:27
Speaker 1: would have been very possible. Would have been a little
22:28
Speaker 1: bit of a pain in the ass to actually figure
22:31
Speaker 1: out if any of that's true, if these cities are
22:34
Speaker 1: in alignment. Twenty twenty six, we got tools and we
22:36
Speaker 1: can like triple check claims. So just just to throw
22:39
Speaker 1: this out there, Now, if you were to draw a
22:42
Speaker 1: direct line on a map with like a felt tip pen, yeah,
22:45
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, you could draw a straight line and
22:47
Speaker 1: it swallows up all those cities. But if you actually
22:50
Speaker 1: calculate the real path between all these New York City
22:54
Speaker 1: is a little over three miles. Off that path, Philadelphia
22:57
Speaker 1: would deviate by like half a mile, and then Baltimore
23:00
Speaker 1: would deviate by over eight miles. So it's not it's
23:04
Speaker 1: not exacts. So if the claim is that a lay
23:07
Speaker 1: line has to be on a certain like latitude, longitude
23:12
Speaker 1: angle or something, then technically these cities don't really line
23:16
Speaker 1: up directly. It would have to be kind of like
23:18
Speaker 1: a squiggle, right, It wouldn't be a lay line, it
23:20
Speaker 1: would be like a lay squiggle. So just to throw
23:24
Speaker 1: out that some of the claims here are maybe a
23:27
Speaker 1: little bit off.
23:29
Speaker 4: Maybe it's like with those essays, you know, those popular
23:31
Speaker 4: essays that people talked about that they.
23:33
Speaker 5: Drew and like it is one of those.
23:37
Speaker 1: So and then from this point on too, I don't know.
23:40
Speaker 1: It's hard to pin this. And it makes more sense
23:42
Speaker 1: knowing the background of the director that he has a
23:45
Speaker 1: Christian ministry that preaches through video editing, that it's like
23:49
Speaker 1: literally what his ministry is about. So you keep getting
23:52
Speaker 1: these weird, little like oppositions where they frame it as
23:56
Speaker 1: maybe this whole thing is about Freemasons versus Christristians, and
24:01
Speaker 1: now we need to figure out who are the real Christians,
24:03
Speaker 1: Like who are the good Masons, who the bad Masons?
24:06
Speaker 1: Who are the good Christians? Who are the bad Christians?
24:08
Speaker 1: And the documentary doesn't hit you over the head with that,
24:11
Speaker 1: but it clearly states it a few times, and you
24:14
Speaker 1: can feel that guiding it just a little bit. And
24:17
Speaker 1: my note is, when I've realized that that's what they
24:20
Speaker 1: were doing, I was thinking, like, really, it's just those two,
24:23
Speaker 1: Like you're not even gonna mention any of the other
24:25
Speaker 1: conspiracy groups. You're not gonna mention neocons or Jesuits or
24:29
Speaker 1: Illuminati or anything. It's just Freemasons versus Christians. And then
24:34
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, well, what denomination are we talking because
24:37
Speaker 1: usually when someone says Christian and they're using it as
24:40
Speaker 1: a purity test, they don't mean all forty thousand denominations.
24:43
Speaker 1: They mean like one or three or five at max, right,
24:47
Speaker 1: And they don't clearly state any of that. Although I'm
24:50
Speaker 1: going to assume it's Protestantism because that comes up a
24:55
Speaker 1: little bit later in this documentary too, so that they
24:58
Speaker 1: kind of answer it, but they don't tell you if
25:00
Speaker 1: you're good or a bad Christian. But the answer is
25:02
Speaker 1: you got to be a Protestant to be a good Christian.
25:04
Speaker 1: From what I gleaned from this documentary.
25:07
Speaker 5: I got the same thing man Protestant.
25:09
Speaker 4: I Again, it doesn't come out and say, but I
25:11
Speaker 4: got the same feel Like I've been in those circles
25:13
Speaker 4: that were like, hm, you're that kind of great. That's
25:15
Speaker 4: what's funny, too, is you there's these intersections of where
25:18
Speaker 4: even in Freemasonry, Christianity, any religion, feel the blank. It's like, dude,
25:23
Speaker 4: there's like multitudes of people that are like, oh, you're
25:25
Speaker 4: that kind of Mason, Like you.
25:26
Speaker 1: Know, oh, bro, inside masonry, there are some Masons. And
25:30
Speaker 1: I mean this is not like a broad brush, but
25:33
Speaker 1: if like, let's say you're in York, right masonry, you
25:36
Speaker 1: might see a Shriner go by and you're like Shriners.
25:40
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. It's like they joined for
25:42
Speaker 6: all the wrong reasons.
25:43
Speaker 1: Man, They're just here to socialize and get drunk and like,
25:46
Speaker 1: and we're here for noble reasons, you know what I mean.
25:49
Speaker 6: And it's like the same thing.
25:50
Speaker 1: But then you got Shriners and they're like, uh, look
25:52
Speaker 1: at those asshole freaking York writers over there, you know
25:55
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like the little factions, and you can
25:57
Speaker 1: be in both of those groups. So it's not like
25:59
Speaker 1: you have to join one and excludes the other. But
26:02
Speaker 1: there's definitely like a like archetypes of people that gravitate
26:06
Speaker 1: to certain things. So yeah, the claim of the whole
26:09
Speaker 1: we're all like coordinated and it's all like cohesion, is
26:13
Speaker 1: like it would be great if that were the case,
26:15
Speaker 1: because then maybe Masons would be running the world again.
26:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then this show would be doing great.
26:21
Speaker 1: Okay, so speaking to Masons and not running the world anymore,
26:26
Speaker 1: then they shift focus to one of the most important
26:29
Speaker 1: and interesting facts in American history that it blows my mind.
26:33
Speaker 1: This is not taught in schools. It absolutely blows my mind.
26:36
Speaker 1: And that's the Captain William Morgan affair. So this is
26:40
Speaker 1: a guy that try to join Freemasonry and then got
26:44
Speaker 1: on the out somehow and then said that he was
26:47
Speaker 1: going to write an expose a about all their secrets,
26:50
Speaker 1: their secret handshakes, their code words, all their odes, everything.
26:54
Speaker 1: He was going to publish it. And this is a
26:56
Speaker 1: fairly new threat that you could make again Freemasonry, because
27:01
Speaker 1: printing press hadn't really been accessible to normal people up
27:05
Speaker 1: until like that century or so, maybe like a century before.
27:09
Speaker 1: And this guy actually did know the recent stuff, and
27:11
Speaker 1: there had been expos's before, but this was just like
27:15
Speaker 1: one more thing that the Masons are like, Oh my god,
27:17
Speaker 1: we can't let another person get away with spilling all
27:20
Speaker 1: the secrets, especially if he's doing it like antagonistically, so
27:25
Speaker 1: he gets marked. The Masons killed this guy allegedly, but
27:28
Speaker 1: I think it's it's true. They killed this guy, William Morgan.
27:31
Speaker 1: It turns into the Morgan affair, and this sparks probably
27:35
Speaker 1: the biggest drop off in Masonic membership in American history,
27:40
Speaker 1: and it hasn't really recovered from this. It gave birth
27:44
Speaker 1: to the Anti Masonic Political Party, the first third party
27:49
Speaker 1: in American history. Before that, we only had two parties.
27:52
Speaker 1: And then the Anti Masonic Party eventually morphs into the
27:56
Speaker 1: modern day Republican Party. So you don't have the modern
28:00
Speaker 1: day Republican Party without the Anti Mason Party, and you
28:04
Speaker 1: don't have the Anti Mason Party without William Morgan getting
28:07
Speaker 1: himself merked by Masons in eighteen twenty six.
28:12
Speaker 4: And I think this is what really shows you light
28:16
Speaker 4: of how the world works, because people get you get
28:20
Speaker 4: bad publicity right, and now people are like, oh, I
28:21
Speaker 4: don't want to join that, and that stop focusing on
28:25
Speaker 4: one group running everything. Right at some points like hey,
28:28
Speaker 4: Illuminati people or Skull and Bones people or Free Mason people,
28:33
Speaker 4: I'm in the whole secret society and the cultic things
28:36
Speaker 4: do exist and that they do have power and they
28:39
Speaker 4: attract certain people that also get into power. But I
28:42
Speaker 4: think this film dissects and shows you, if you look
28:45
Speaker 4: at through the critical lens, that not everybody inside each
28:48
Speaker 4: group is doing this. There's infighting, there's people trying to
28:52
Speaker 4: be empower themselves. It's not like a cohesive group that
28:55
Speaker 4: like we're going to take over the world and this
28:57
Speaker 4: is how we're going to do it.
28:59
Speaker 5: It's like no man.
29:00
Speaker 4: One event happens, people think they're getting exposed out the
29:03
Speaker 4: bad publicity goes, Okay, we're not joining this, and now
29:06
Speaker 4: you get this black eye of.
29:07
Speaker 5: The Freemasons are the only thing that's bad.
29:10
Speaker 4: The Democrats are the only thing that's bad, and then
29:13
Speaker 4: fill in the blank after that.
29:15
Speaker 1: I think the easiest way to describe the dynamic of masonry,
29:20
Speaker 1: especially in that time, it's more like police in general, right,
29:25
Speaker 1: like the cops in your area, wherever you're at. They
29:28
Speaker 1: have power to do horrible things and get away with it,
29:31
Speaker 1: and that's not going to go away, like that's part
29:33
Speaker 1: of their lives and the power a little bit like
29:35
Speaker 1: with Masons, except Masons can't just pull up and put
29:37
Speaker 1: a gun in your face in the middle of the
29:39
Speaker 1: you know, broad daylight. But they could potentially, if we're
29:42
Speaker 1: talking eighteen hundreds, they could potentially make your life incredibly difficult.
29:46
Speaker 1: You're not going to get a job, You're gonna have
29:47
Speaker 1: to move out of town and hope that your reputation
29:50
Speaker 1: doesn't follow you, especially if you like cross them some way.
29:54
Speaker 1: Just like if you piss off a cop in a
29:56
Speaker 1: certain county, like you might want to move from that
30:00
Speaker 1: county because he can sick all of his other cops
30:03
Speaker 1: on you and just make your life unbearable. Right, But
30:06
Speaker 1: it's not that every single cop somehow talks to every
30:10
Speaker 1: other cop in the entire country. Some corrupt cop in Miami,
30:14
Speaker 1: he's not calling the shots on like another cop that's
30:17
Speaker 1: in you know, like like po dunk Idaho or whatever.
30:19
Speaker 1: I mean, it's potentially possible that they could be doing this,
30:24
Speaker 1: but it's highly unlikely. And I think it's a very
30:26
Speaker 1: similar dynamic in masonry with the caveat that since Masons
30:31
Speaker 1: do operate in secret and have secret codes and all
30:33
Speaker 1: this that it's really hard to differentiate. Although at the
30:37
Speaker 1: same time, cops are supposed to be public servants. They're
30:40
Speaker 1: supposed to keep public records, but that doesn't mean that
30:42
Speaker 1: they just don't file something or don't record an interaction
30:46
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I think it's it's the easiest sort
30:49
Speaker 1: of their apples and oranges a little bit, But it
30:51
Speaker 1: gives you a way to be like, oh, the same
30:53
Speaker 1: way that cops can be corrupt and you can have
30:55
Speaker 1: a good cop and a bad cop, and a good
30:57
Speaker 1: department and a bad department.
30:58
Speaker 6: I think it's very similar.
31:00
Speaker 5: You mean, human beings could be good and bad.
31:04
Speaker 1: So, but unlike Mason's, cops didn't drop off in droves
31:09
Speaker 1: at any point even during like the whole all cops
31:13
Speaker 1: are bad and you know, like abolished police and everything.
31:17
Speaker 1: With the anti Masons, though, they actually had a huge
31:20
Speaker 1: drop off so after the William Morgan affair came out
31:23
Speaker 1: within eight years. He's just one example, but in New
31:27
Speaker 1: York alone, they had two hundred and twenty seven lodges
31:31
Speaker 1: before William Morgan affair, and then within eight years that
31:34
Speaker 1: dropped down to only forty one lodges, So they lost
31:37
Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty lodges over this specific event
31:41
Speaker 1: of the William Morgan affair. And again it never never recovered.
31:44
Speaker 1: Masonry has never recovered from that, and American politics has
31:47
Speaker 1: changed completely, So props.
31:49
Speaker 6: To them for like showing it.
31:50
Speaker 1: And I think this is also the only legit really
31:54
Speaker 1: like History Channel level reenactment of the Morgan affair I've
31:57
Speaker 1: ever seen. Everything else has just been old crew drawings
32:01
Speaker 1: or like little PowerPoint presentations, so kudos, Like they went
32:04
Speaker 1: and hired reenactment and they put on the clothes and
32:07
Speaker 1: they like had people lead them out into the middle
32:09
Speaker 1: of a marsh and drown them like on camera and
32:12
Speaker 1: stuff and everything.
32:13
Speaker 4: I thought it was legit. That's why I thought, like
32:15
Speaker 4: history Chalwne should have picked this up.
32:19
Speaker 1: So that's part one of this documentary. Here's part two.
32:23
Speaker 1: I think they get into the American Revolution. It's got
32:25
Speaker 1: a bunch of parts to it, so strap it. We're
32:27
Speaker 1: only we're only a half hour in.
32:29
Speaker 4: Uh.
32:30
Speaker 1: They say that the American Revolution used the structure of Freemasonry.
32:36
Speaker 1: So here's one of those angles where they're saying, like, Okay,
32:39
Speaker 1: Mason's bad, Mason's anti Christian bad, but structure of Freemasonry good,
32:45
Speaker 1: and that maybe that that we can we can give
32:48
Speaker 1: credit to the structure of Freemasonry without giving credit to
32:52
Speaker 1: Freemasonry itself because it's Satanic and Luciferian. So my note
32:57
Speaker 1: there was like, does this take away from mason influence
33:00
Speaker 1: it all? If the revolutionaries didn't have Masonic ideals but
33:04
Speaker 1: were just following Masonic structure, I don't know, although it's
33:08
Speaker 1: a moot point because the revolutionaries did have Masonic ideals
33:12
Speaker 1: they were in the Freemasons. They did take all of
33:15
Speaker 1: these odes, so it's weird that they're they're kind of
33:18
Speaker 1: pointing like they're nitpicking this little point here.
33:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they kind of like kernel it and that
33:26
Speaker 4: It's similar for a couple of documentary that we were watching,
33:28
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was the siop one Cy
33:31
Speaker 4: Wars or something like that, where they kind of did
33:33
Speaker 4: the same things about the natives where they were like, yeah, dude,
33:35
Speaker 4: their laws way better than ours, and but then they
33:39
Speaker 4: just kind of it kind of blended it. They don't
33:41
Speaker 4: give you the full scope of like, yeah, of course
33:43
Speaker 4: there's good structures in everything that you do, Like there's
33:45
Speaker 4: good things, and it's.
33:47
Speaker 5: Like people want to kill the messenger.
33:49
Speaker 4: They may say something that is profound whether they're good
33:52
Speaker 4: or bad people, and that doesn't mean that a bad
33:54
Speaker 4: person or a good person or depending on what they
33:57
Speaker 4: do the Thanos theory right of people like yeah, I
34:00
Speaker 4: think I have to do this and eliminate half the world,
34:03
Speaker 4: or I have to put this implication into the structure
34:06
Speaker 4: to really make it go. But they want Masons to
34:10
Speaker 4: look I think in this film they kind of do
34:12
Speaker 4: its disservice maybe not. I guess it maybe depends on
34:15
Speaker 4: how I looked at it. I was looking at like
34:16
Speaker 4: a lot of things. They said, it is favorable to
34:19
Speaker 4: the Masons, right, They kind of give you to where
34:21
Speaker 4: you're like, WHOA, I guess that's good.
34:22
Speaker 7: Bro.
34:22
Speaker 5: Like, I'm kind of like the.
34:24
Speaker 1: Worst hit piece ever because you can tell that they're
34:27
Speaker 1: trying to be critical, but then they end up praising
34:30
Speaker 1: the thing that they're being critical of. Again, I think
34:32
Speaker 1: it adds to the mystery of this entire So, without
34:36
Speaker 1: going through every single Mason they mentioned, here's the three.
34:39
Speaker 1: Here's the three that get passes because of their involvement
34:42
Speaker 1: in the American Revolution. The first one is Paul Revere, which,
34:47
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, not a lot of people know this. They
34:50
Speaker 1: don't bring this up in the documentary. I always have
34:52
Speaker 1: to mention this Paul Revere I believe either owned a
34:56
Speaker 1: print press or knew someone that owned a print press,
34:58
Speaker 1: and that there was another per I'm gonna make up
35:01
Speaker 1: a name. It was like Benjamin Israel or something. But
35:04
Speaker 1: this other guy, he was like the real Paul Revere.
35:08
Speaker 1: Like he rode his horse like seven times more than
35:11
Speaker 1: Paul Revere did. Paul Revere went from like one end
35:14
Speaker 1: of his street to the other end of the street
35:16
Speaker 1: and told like a few neighbors. But then he went
35:19
Speaker 1: and published about his story about riding up and down
35:22
Speaker 1: in his paper. So he became the guy that everyone
35:26
Speaker 1: knew and not this other guy. Maybe also because he
35:27
Speaker 1: was a Mason. Who knows, but they say, Paul Revere
35:30
Speaker 1: gets a pass. He was a Mason, but he was
35:32
Speaker 1: one of.
35:32
Speaker 6: The good ones.
35:33
Speaker 1: Washington gets a pass because he was one of the
35:36
Speaker 1: good ones. Part of that is that they really hone
35:39
Speaker 1: in on this and they say, yeah, but he didn't
35:41
Speaker 1: do anything in the lodge for thirty years before his death.
35:45
Speaker 1: And I had to look this one up too, because
35:47
Speaker 1: again we've got the technology now twenty years later. So
35:50
Speaker 1: here's the actual quote. Was that someone asked about his
35:53
Speaker 1: participation in the Masons, and he said, I have not
35:57
Speaker 1: been to lodge more than once or twice within the
36:00
Speaker 1: last thirty years. So it's not that he didn't go
36:02
Speaker 1: at all, it's that he only went a couple times,
36:05
Speaker 1: but he never said anything disparaging about them.
36:07
Speaker 6: He didn't leave masonry.
36:09
Speaker 1: It reads more of like I got better things to
36:12
Speaker 1: do than go to like the weekly meetings. So Anyways,
36:15
Speaker 1: it it's it was weird because of how specific the
36:19
Speaker 1: guys in this documentary are all like, yeah, yeah, he
36:22
Speaker 1: was amazing, but he didn't go for those last thirty
36:24
Speaker 1: years man, so like you know, maybe he wasn't worshiping
36:26
Speaker 1: the devil.
36:27
Speaker 6: That's sort of the read between the lines, right.
36:30
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:30
Speaker 4: And to be like, oh, I've only been there a
36:33
Speaker 4: couple of times, that means he's gone there a couple
36:34
Speaker 4: times a year, and then you're also kind of running
36:37
Speaker 4: the country doing a war like living in life. I'm
36:39
Speaker 4: sure that even people now that are in the Masons
36:43
Speaker 4: aren't going to every single There's some probably people that
36:45
Speaker 4: go to every single meeting, and there's some people that
36:47
Speaker 4: just show up every now and then, and.
36:49
Speaker 1: There's some people that never have to show up because
36:51
Speaker 1: you only really have to go to Lodge three times.
36:54
Speaker 1: I mean most likely way more than that in order
36:57
Speaker 1: to get through. But he only got to go to
36:59
Speaker 1: get your first degree, second degree, in your third degree,
37:01
Speaker 1: and after you get your third degree, you never have
37:03
Speaker 1: to go to Lodge again in your entire life.
37:04
Speaker 6: You don't want to.
37:05
Speaker 1: It's similar to like you don't have to go to
37:08
Speaker 1: every PTA meeting just because you're a parent, and a
37:10
Speaker 1: lot of parents don't. But you've got some that go
37:12
Speaker 1: every damn time and they want to be, you know,
37:15
Speaker 1: the secretary of the PTA, and this one wants to
37:17
Speaker 1: be the director of the PTA. And you're like same
37:19
Speaker 1: with like HOA, right, Like you can be in the
37:21
Speaker 1: HOA and never go to an HOA meeting.
37:24
Speaker 6: So I look at it very similar to that.
37:26
Speaker 1: They the documentary misconstrues it as if him not going
37:31
Speaker 1: means that he was out. It couldn't be farther from
37:34
Speaker 1: the case. And then they squirm even more because for
37:38
Speaker 1: some reason they decided to be like m Benjamin Franklin
37:41
Speaker 1: was also one of the good ones, even though he
37:43
Speaker 1: was in the hell Fire Club that did orgies and
37:46
Speaker 1: devil worship and they got loaded and they did whatever
37:48
Speaker 1: they wanted and they did all of these rituals in
37:51
Speaker 1: a cave literally under a church, and that the orgies
37:54
Speaker 1: were described as real, and that he talked to this
37:57
Speaker 1: guy Dashwood, who was like another a cult spy master.
38:01
Speaker 1: But maybe he was just kind of doing it to
38:04
Speaker 1: be edgy, Like maybe he wasn't a bad one, And
38:06
Speaker 1: it's just like how can you draw this broad brush?
38:10
Speaker 1: And like Masons are evil, except for Ben Franklin, the
38:13
Speaker 1: literal Satan worshiping orgy master that had the bought like
38:17
Speaker 1: the bones of children found under his house. Right, he
38:20
Speaker 1: was one of the good ones.
38:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a good one. And I thought that
38:23
Speaker 4: was funny with the I was gonna mention the Ben
38:26
Speaker 4: the turncoat himself, right, BENEDICTA, Yeah, we're because we just
38:32
Speaker 4: watched a documentary not too long ago where did they
38:34
Speaker 4: talk about like, oh, he did it because of money, right,
38:37
Speaker 4: like and decoded They're like, oh money, And then I'm like, yeah,
38:40
Speaker 4: that's like how everything is, bro Like, yeah, you guys
38:42
Speaker 4: are friends.
38:43
Speaker 5: Maybe you know how people are like, oh, the Mason's
38:45
Speaker 5: owned this.
38:46
Speaker 4: Now someone may interpret this as see the Masons had
38:48
Speaker 4: this side of the war, and this side of the
38:50
Speaker 4: war was all.
38:51
Speaker 5: The manufactured style.
38:52
Speaker 4: But then when you really read between the lines, you're like, no,
38:55
Speaker 4: they're just people. And there's different circumstances where he's like,
38:58
Speaker 4: whoa bro, I've been seven years, Like we talked about
39:00
Speaker 4: the last one not getting paid and like I can't
39:03
Speaker 4: buy no more horse, I can't get all this booze
39:06
Speaker 4: and get and be a degenerate.
39:08
Speaker 5: You need to give me my money, so I could
39:10
Speaker 5: be a degenerate like I want.
39:11
Speaker 4: I want to live on my yacht and have my
39:13
Speaker 4: only fans models just shaking the rass all day.
39:16
Speaker 5: And that, to me is what really happened in the
39:19
Speaker 5: Revolutionary And.
39:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that was the crux of Betted Donald
39:23
Speaker 1: for sure. Imagine not getting paid for seven years, people
39:28
Speaker 1: calling you a hero. But then some brit that comes
39:31
Speaker 1: over and he also gets called an American hero. But
39:34
Speaker 1: he's British and he's working for British intelligence and he's
39:37
Speaker 1: got all this money, and you're like, bro's, where's my paycheck?
39:40
Speaker 6: I can see.
39:41
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I would throw my country to
39:44
Speaker 1: the British, but I definitely have a new appreciation for
39:47
Speaker 1: Benedict Darnold. Part three of this documentary. How many parts
39:52
Speaker 1: do we got here?
39:53
Speaker 6: Gee?
39:53
Speaker 1: Okay, five parts. I'd broke it down into there's more
39:56
Speaker 1: than that, but there's like five parts. Part three is
39:59
Speaker 1: about Rosa Cruz and it's also where they get into
40:02
Speaker 1: what a good Christian is and what a bad Christian
40:05
Speaker 1: is and John de and magic and all this stuff.
40:07
Speaker 1: So here's the overlying premise of this section is that
40:11
Speaker 1: you've got Mary Tutor versus Elizabeth Tutor, and both of
40:15
Speaker 1: these are their sisters, but they're on opposite ends of
40:19
Speaker 1: the Christian scale. So Mary's the Catholic and this is
40:23
Speaker 1: Bloody Mary, by the way. And then you've got Queen Elizabeth,
40:26
Speaker 1: who's the Protestant, so she's the good one. She gets
40:29
Speaker 1: imprisoned in the Tower of London. And while she's in
40:32
Speaker 1: the Tower of London, she becomes friends with John Dee,
40:35
Speaker 1: who's kind of like this sort of guy, like this
40:39
Speaker 1: accult master that works in the tower and comes by
40:42
Speaker 1: and sees her imprisoned and they develop a relationship. So
40:45
Speaker 1: he works for Queen Mary, Bloody Mary, to help keep
40:49
Speaker 1: her sister in This is like a Disney movie bro
40:51
Speaker 1: so like the evil Stepsister keeps for the good Stepsist.
40:55
Speaker 1: They're imprisoned in the Tower of London, and then the
40:57
Speaker 1: Old Wizard comes and befriends her and basically teaches her
41:01
Speaker 1: wizardry and introduces her to the work of Edward Kelly
41:06
Speaker 1: and invents this angel magic. And then the angels tell
41:09
Speaker 1: John Dee to go and criticize the Holy Roman Emperor
41:14
Speaker 1: Rudolph the Second, tell him that he's in his wicked
41:16
Speaker 1: ways John Dee does this, He's making new maps of
41:20
Speaker 1: the world. He's doing all this, and then they get
41:23
Speaker 1: into how John Dee becomes double oh seven. Well, John
41:26
Speaker 1: Dee as Double O seven was when he was working
41:29
Speaker 1: for the bad Queen Mary because he was Agent seven
41:32
Speaker 1: and he signed everything with zero zero seven, which was
41:36
Speaker 1: supposed to be his glasses, I think, and then like
41:39
Speaker 1: him like his hand over his eyes or something. So
41:42
Speaker 1: the premise of this though, is that he's working for
41:45
Speaker 1: the bad bloody Mary Queen and secretly helping out the
41:48
Speaker 1: good imprisoned Princess Queen Elizabeth, and that this is what
41:54
Speaker 1: eventually becomes the inspiration for Francis Bacon, William Shakespeare, Many Palmer, Hall, Washington,
42:00
Speaker 1: Ben Franklin and everything after that. It all comes from
42:03
Speaker 1: this chance meeting of the wizard and the imprisoned princess.
42:07
Speaker 4: And then, to me, this is where the film starts,
42:09
Speaker 4: like saying, how Freemasonry and Rosicrucionairism is like merging, right,
42:15
Speaker 4: Like they're like this gang and this gang got together
42:19
Speaker 4: and now they're combined to combining forces to create Kevin
42:23
Speaker 4: Bacon's great great great great great great great grandfather.
42:29
Speaker 1: Kind of and then it's hot. No one can really
42:32
Speaker 1: be a true expert on all this stuff. Maybe Manley
42:34
Speaker 1: palmer Hall. But even then he get he gets highly
42:36
Speaker 1: criticized for oversimplifying stuff, which I think is maybe the
42:40
Speaker 1: pro and the con from Manley palmer Hall, Like yay,
42:42
Speaker 1: he simplifies it, but he makes it approachable, so you
42:45
Speaker 1: can at least get some understanding, but your understanding might
42:48
Speaker 1: be totally wrong, although maybe it's better than no understanding
42:52
Speaker 1: of And so Francis Bacon being the leader of both
42:56
Speaker 1: Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism is kind of interesting and wild because
43:02
Speaker 1: when the Bavarian Illuminati comes out afterwards, like a century
43:05
Speaker 1: after this, the whole premise for that is that Rosicrucianism
43:10
Speaker 1: and Freemasonry era at odds with each other, and that
43:12
Speaker 1: they're also at odds with the Bavarian Illuminati, so they
43:15
Speaker 1: have this like three ways standoff, and so it's not
43:17
Speaker 1: like Rosicrucive and Freemasonry are fully compatible. I think part
43:21
Speaker 1: of that is that Rosicrucianism does lean into alchemy and
43:25
Speaker 1: spirit magic and literally a cult Christianism. It's the Rosy Cross,
43:29
Speaker 1: the cross where Chris is on. There might be some
43:32
Speaker 1: tins of like Gnoscissism and stuff, But when you get
43:35
Speaker 1: into freemasonry, it is a little bit more agnostic. Even
43:39
Speaker 1: if you believe that deep down the people running it
43:42
Speaker 1: are like Luciferians or Gnostics or whatever, there's a good
43:45
Speaker 1: portion of people that are like I just wanted to
43:47
Speaker 1: find a good job. I just wanted to have something
43:49
Speaker 1: to do. I'm retired, I wanted someone to do on Tuesdays. Like,
43:52
Speaker 1: there's a lot of versions of that Rosicrucianism. I don't
43:55
Speaker 1: think you get someone they just want they're just dabbling,
43:58
Speaker 1: they just wanted to find a job, or they just
44:00
Speaker 1: we're looking for like a social club with a cult
44:03
Speaker 1: sort of hints to it. Like you're getting a completely
44:05
Speaker 1: different read from it. So the fact that Francis Bacon
44:09
Speaker 1: is the leader of both of these things means that
44:11
Speaker 1: it's Baconian influence that they share in common, not any
44:15
Speaker 1: other things amongst themselves.
44:19
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they they kind of dabble into like Crowley
44:22
Speaker 4: in this like this segment two of where they're like,
44:25
Speaker 4: well this is where we get into the Crowley and
44:28
Speaker 4: in freemasony and I don't know, like maybe I'm off
44:31
Speaker 4: on this. This is so thing I did want to
44:32
Speaker 4: ask you to. They kind of like really pushed that
44:35
Speaker 4: Crowley he's like a Freemason. But I didn't think that
44:37
Speaker 4: he was a Freemason. I thought he was.
44:39
Speaker 5: Like his own entity and like kind of more because.
44:42
Speaker 4: You hear a lot of like lure of he's a
44:44
Speaker 4: Freemason or now he's a Illuminati, But I thought he
44:47
Speaker 4: was more like just alchemy and like practicing like sex
44:51
Speaker 4: cult rituals.
44:52
Speaker 6: Yeah to what Crowley did.
44:54
Speaker 1: He was a Freemason at a point, but he would
44:57
Speaker 1: join every club that there was. If you had a
45:00
Speaker 1: secret society, if you had some weird magic group, he
45:03
Speaker 1: would join it, and he would get He would hang
45:05
Speaker 1: out for long enough to like get some of your
45:07
Speaker 1: members hooked on drugs and like doing horrible things and
45:11
Speaker 1: ruining your reputation, and then he'd bounce. But when he bounced,
45:14
Speaker 1: he would take all your secrets and incorporate them into
45:17
Speaker 1: some new thing that he made up. And he kept
45:19
Speaker 1: doing that over and over again. He did that with Freemasonry,
45:22
Speaker 1: he did that with the Order of the Golden Dawn,
45:24
Speaker 1: and then he eventually comes up with like Thalama, which
45:27
Speaker 1: is kind of like a mishmosh of a bunch of
45:29
Speaker 1: different things that he amalgamated from different places. So it's
45:32
Speaker 1: accurate to say that he was raised in freemasonry, but
45:37
Speaker 1: once he left and took their secrets and turned it
45:40
Speaker 1: into his own thing, he didn't necessarily consider himself a
45:44
Speaker 1: free mason anymore because that would have been too limiting
45:47
Speaker 1: for him.
45:47
Speaker 6: That would have been like.
45:48
Speaker 1: Like, that would be you still being like, yeah, I'm
45:50
Speaker 1: a kindergartener, Like you're not a kid like you were
45:53
Speaker 1: at one point you were a kindergartener, but I'm pretty
45:55
Speaker 1: sure you're not now, and you wouldn't want to be
45:56
Speaker 1: considered one. So I think like, yeah, is a freemason
46:01
Speaker 1: the same way that he's still a kindergartener. He kind
46:04
Speaker 1: of like advanced beyond that and incorporated other things. That's
46:07
Speaker 1: not that's not like an ode to Crowley. That's just
46:10
Speaker 1: that's how that dynamic works. So in Freemasons, I don't
46:14
Speaker 1: think like to include him because he left and he
46:19
Speaker 1: revealed the secrets and he did his own thing, so
46:21
Speaker 1: technically he got like kicked out for doing that, although
46:24
Speaker 1: I don't think officially.
46:27
Speaker 5: He got eighty six.
46:28
Speaker 4: Alister Crowley got eighty six for the Freemasons under the
46:31
Speaker 4: Doctor you heard here fri.
46:33
Speaker 1: It totally would have been one of those year fired.
46:35
Speaker 1: It's like you can't fire me because I quit, or
46:37
Speaker 1: vice versa. It's like, hey, guys, I quit, like you
46:39
Speaker 1: can't quit your fired, you know. So part four this
46:45
Speaker 1: this is gets into one of my also favorite conspiracies,
46:48
Speaker 1: although it's like it's more nerdy. This is one you
46:50
Speaker 1: can bring up at a table and no one will
46:52
Speaker 1: be offended, although they'll be like, look this nerd, you know,
46:55
Speaker 1: like nerd. So this is Francis Bacon was William Shakespeare?
47:00
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard this before?
47:02
Speaker 4: I had heard like a little like I think I
47:05
Speaker 4: might have heard it on one of the podcasts, Like
47:06
Speaker 4: I didn't like, go into.
47:07
Speaker 1: D was an impression before this movie when you heard
47:10
Speaker 1: that like someone else's William Shakespeare.
47:14
Speaker 4: And I don't think I heard specifically that Francis Bacon
47:16
Speaker 4: was of Shakepeare.
47:18
Speaker 6: Shakespeare was like.
47:21
Speaker 5: That basically he was had a ghostwriter and he was
47:23
Speaker 5: a fraud.
47:23
Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, yeah, that sounds kind of
47:26
Speaker 4: easy to interpret because I'm like, yeah, there's ghostwriters nowadays, right,
47:30
Speaker 4: like if you go to a Beyonce song you're gonna
47:32
Speaker 4: see like thirteen writers and fifteen composers like so it
47:36
Speaker 4: wasn't that far fetched to me, Like seeing that there's
47:39
Speaker 4: some guy that's the face of it and some guys
47:42
Speaker 4: in the background like writing all the stories. Now this
47:46
Speaker 4: gave it a different layer, right, This is not the
47:48
Speaker 4: same layer of what I had heard. It's more than
47:50
Speaker 4: like Shakespeare's a fraud and people wrote his stuff, And
47:53
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, that's kind of happens today, right with
47:56
Speaker 4: music or even movies.
47:57
Speaker 5: I mean, Disney's ripped off a lot of people.
48:00
Speaker 1: So this premise was actually popularized by a direct relative,
48:05
Speaker 1: I believe, another Bacon in like the eighteen hundreds or something,
48:10
Speaker 1: and she wrote about this Francis Bacon being the true
48:15
Speaker 1: author of all the Shakespearean works. And then Manly Palmer
48:18
Speaker 1: Hall in his New Atlantis or Sorry, in his Secret
48:21
Speaker 1: Destiny of America he repeats this, and also in his
48:24
Speaker 1: biggest book book, which is Secret Teachings of All Ages
48:28
Speaker 1: even has like a special little onion skin page that
48:31
Speaker 1: it's got like Francis Bacon that lays on top of Shakespeare.
48:35
Speaker 1: So you can see they even kind of like looked
48:36
Speaker 1: similar in ways The premise was that Francis Bacon had
48:41
Speaker 1: all this insider knowledge about politics and inner fightings between
48:46
Speaker 1: real like families and you know, like the true goss
48:49
Speaker 1: So they were like a TMZ style for all the
48:52
Speaker 1: elite families. Francis Bacon had that level of insight, but
48:56
Speaker 1: he couldn't come out and start writing all this stuff
48:58
Speaker 1: like by Francis Bacon for obvious reasons. So so part
49:03
Speaker 1: of this conspiracy theory is that they find William Shakespeare
49:07
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is the guy.
49:09
Speaker 6: Well, like, he's.
49:10
Speaker 1: Already in this acting world, he's got some acting shops people,
49:14
Speaker 1: he's kind of like a mid celebrity. We'll just say
49:17
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the playwright and we'll pump
49:19
Speaker 1: all these different works through him, and he could put
49:21
Speaker 1: his name on it and he gets maybe something in
49:24
Speaker 1: exchange for this who knows, but he gets to be
49:26
Speaker 1: the face of this whole thing. They hire him as
49:28
Speaker 1: like the Jared of Subway, maybe a horrible reference. So
49:32
Speaker 1: William Shakespeare becomes the face of Francis Bacon and this Rosicrucian,
49:36
Speaker 1: Freemasonic new set of ideals, and then in the background,
49:41
Speaker 1: in order to bolster why this could have been possible.
49:45
Speaker 1: I hadn't heard the I mean, I've seen the documentary before.
49:47
Speaker 1: I forgot they mentioned this, but that Francis Bacon, they claim,
49:51
Speaker 1: had his own secret printing press, and during his lifetime
49:55
Speaker 1: he personally raised his own money and spent his own
49:58
Speaker 1: money to have over two thousand of classic works from
50:03
Speaker 1: Greece and Rome and just every different language. All of
50:07
Speaker 1: the classics he paid to have translated into English and
50:11
Speaker 1: have made available at cheap prices all throughout Europe in
50:14
Speaker 1: order to prepare people for this next new Atlantis that
50:18
Speaker 1: he was prepping people like I need to create this
50:21
Speaker 1: new reality where everyone's smarter and we advance and we
50:24
Speaker 1: get new technology that he specifically sat down in order
50:28
Speaker 1: to orchestrate all that.
50:29
Speaker 6: What do you think about that concept?
50:32
Speaker 4: I thought that I can understand because it's like kind
50:34
Speaker 4: of like what they do through the media nowadays, right
50:36
Speaker 4: like we're gonna soft blow you, like well like a
50:38
Speaker 4: good version, yeah, but a good version like of what
50:41
Speaker 4: like here's some history that people don't know about. But
50:43
Speaker 4: also I thought it was interesting how they said that
50:46
Speaker 4: he had like a crew of writers, right, like they
50:48
Speaker 4: were like, he's not the only one writing this stuff
50:50
Speaker 4: that he has staff of, like I think they said
50:53
Speaker 4: like two hundred or multiple like writers that were putting
50:57
Speaker 4: this together.
50:58
Speaker 5: And also they were like and Shakespeare was illiterate.
51:01
Speaker 6: Like.
51:02
Speaker 1: Signature and it's like he couldn't he could barely write
51:05
Speaker 1: his own name. And you're saying that he wrote all
51:08
Speaker 1: of these classic works.
51:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they have that like and then there
51:12
Speaker 4: are other real big claim is there's like a photo
51:15
Speaker 4: of him where he has a piece of paper and
51:17
Speaker 4: there's nothing on the paper, and they're like that signifies
51:20
Speaker 4: that he hasn't written anything, and like, I think it it.
51:24
Speaker 4: I don't think it's as far fetched as this claim.
51:27
Speaker 4: Like again, it's hard to how we're going to prove it, right.
51:29
Speaker 4: I don't know if I could necessarily prove it to somebody,
51:31
Speaker 4: but it's believable to me that why would they put
51:34
Speaker 4: a front man to be like, hey, let's put out
51:36
Speaker 4: our agenda. Propaganda is not just negative necessarily, right, Like
51:41
Speaker 4: it's like, hey, I want to push you into a
51:43
Speaker 4: direction that I think we should go forward and to
51:47
Speaker 4: soft blow people to like, hey, this is this new
51:49
Speaker 4: found uh a euphoria, right, this new and then they
51:53
Speaker 4: kind of mentioned it too, us like this new garden
51:56
Speaker 4: of eat, like getting back to the guard of eating.
51:58
Speaker 4: When they talk about Cabala in the film as whether like,
52:00
Speaker 4: you know, getting to God like humans getting to the
52:03
Speaker 4: God mindset.
52:04
Speaker 5: And I think you have to do that.
52:06
Speaker 4: If you're trying to prepare a whole society to go
52:09
Speaker 4: this step, you got to break them down and show
52:11
Speaker 4: them literature that is going to get them to that way.
52:14
Speaker 5: And it makes sense that he would be like, Hey,
52:16
Speaker 5: I'm going to use movies.
52:17
Speaker 4: Entertainment, plays, whatever you can that the median of the
52:21
Speaker 4: time you're going to use to influence people.
52:25
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that this documentary really hones
52:28
Speaker 1: in on for this Francis Bacon Shakespeare thing was these
52:32
Speaker 1: secret cipher codes that show up all over the place.
52:35
Speaker 1: And one of the more obvious examples of these is
52:38
Speaker 1: that Francis Bacon would have a light A and a
52:42
Speaker 1: dark A at the header of some of his pages,
52:45
Speaker 1: and it was just like these random symbols, and these
52:47
Speaker 1: are explained as the light a being Apollo, the god
52:51
Speaker 1: of light, and that the dark a represented Athena, which
52:54
Speaker 1: was basically the consort of Apollo. But that whenever you
52:58
Speaker 1: would see the AA, it stood for Apollo and Athena,
53:02
Speaker 1: and that both of them shared the fact that they
53:05
Speaker 1: had these spears and they represented wisdom, and that more specifically,
53:10
Speaker 1: Athena had a helmet that represented like being secretive, and
53:14
Speaker 1: that she had a spear, and that she would shake
53:17
Speaker 1: her spear at you if you were ignorant. So it
53:20
Speaker 1: was a way of like humbling oneself. Is that if
53:23
Speaker 1: you approach Athena and you said something dumb, she'd shake
53:26
Speaker 1: her spear at you. So the entire premise of William
53:29
Speaker 1: Shakespeare was that this was Francis Bacon's way of having
53:34
Speaker 1: Athena shake her spear at all of humanity for being ignorant,
53:38
Speaker 1: and kind of like pushing them and edging them towards
53:41
Speaker 1: being this new Atlantis through reading more books.
53:44
Speaker 4: So when I heard that, it kind of gave me
53:47
Speaker 4: a Jordan Maxwell feel.
53:50
Speaker 6: Maxwell. Yeah, you know this.
53:52
Speaker 5: Means that, but it actually means this. I felt the connection.
53:56
Speaker 4: I'm like, and then seeing around the time this dropped
53:59
Speaker 4: two thousand and six, You're like, this is a hotbed
54:01
Speaker 4: of Jordan Maxwell time. Like, I know he's been around
54:03
Speaker 4: for longer than that, but that was a hotbed the
54:06
Speaker 4: like you know, late nineties to that mid two thousands.
54:08
Speaker 5: It was like Jordan Maxwell was everywhere.
54:11
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those funny things though too, because
54:13
Speaker 1: now the South Park has riffed on it enough. It's
54:16
Speaker 1: like William Shakespeare Athena shakes her spear, Arie spears, Britney spears.
54:23
Speaker 1: Aris is a sign, Britney's is in a horoscope. So
54:27
Speaker 1: it's like you can just like keep mentioning words that
54:31
Speaker 1: rhyme are sound with each other forever, and I'll listen
54:33
Speaker 1: to you forever because it's like one of my favorite
54:35
Speaker 1: schizo conspiracy themes. Okay, the last section, we've made it
54:40
Speaker 1: to the fifth part that I again they don't necessarily
54:43
Speaker 1: label all these and number of them all. But the
54:45
Speaker 1: last part of this documentary is about Knights Templar and
54:49
Speaker 1: Roslin Chapel in Scotland. So if you haven't heard about
54:53
Speaker 1: this one, this one is sort of a summary without
54:56
Speaker 1: getting into the weeds on Holy Blood Holy Grail theories
55:00
Speaker 1: where ancient families and dynasties. In this documentary, it's the Freemasons,
55:06
Speaker 1: but they eventually dovetail into the Knights Templar and when
55:10
Speaker 1: the Knights Templar gets taken out then they get reabsorbed
55:14
Speaker 1: back into Freemasonry. That's sort of the premise, and with
55:17
Speaker 1: Roslin Chapel being an example that the Knights Templar and
55:22
Speaker 1: by proxy the Freemasons and Rosicrucians going forward. But ultimately
55:27
Speaker 1: the Knights Templar knew about the New Americas because they
55:32
Speaker 1: have carvings of plants that only exist in America.
55:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the House could you know?
55:39
Speaker 6: Right?
55:40
Speaker 4: The Knights of Templar are interesting to me though, like
55:42
Speaker 4: how they even talk about them as like they're kind
55:46
Speaker 4: of a pillar in the community of like the branches
55:49
Speaker 4: of each secret society almost right. They're like, I know
55:53
Speaker 4: they're not the original, but it's like the mainstream original,
55:56
Speaker 4: like the blockbuster Knights of Templar, Right. I know there's
55:59
Speaker 4: many secret societies, but to me, every time I hear them,
56:02
Speaker 4: I feel like the mainstream field.
56:04
Speaker 5: Like they're like the.
56:05
Speaker 4: Rock stars, the original rock stars that they're like, yeah,
56:07
Speaker 4: if there wasn't for the Knights Templar. And they go
56:10
Speaker 4: into how they kind of like took over the treasury,
56:14
Speaker 4: and that's where I go everything. You're like, okay, so
56:16
Speaker 4: now they have all the money, and it just breaks
56:18
Speaker 4: it down to like yeah, whoever has the money is
56:20
Speaker 4: in control, or who has the most power and the
56:22
Speaker 4: most region.
56:24
Speaker 5: And it's constantly instead of just saying, oh, it's the Freemasons,
56:27
Speaker 5: it's the Jews, it's the Illuminati, it's like, yeah, no,
56:29
Speaker 5: it's these guys that have more money and power than you,
56:32
Speaker 5: and they're like, we should do it this way.
56:34
Speaker 1: We're gonna call ourselves this now. Yeah. So, I mean
56:39
Speaker 1: the documentary does not get into the weeds on this.
56:42
Speaker 1: I'll get a little bit into the weeds just because
56:44
Speaker 1: this is a pretty big claim. And again there's a
56:46
Speaker 1: lot of specific claims they make, like the anti or
56:50
Speaker 1: the ex Illuminati, Luciferian high level Druid priest whatever, William
56:56
Speaker 1: Schlajengler or whatever. He's basically talking about how the Knights
57:02
Speaker 1: Templar is connected to the Freemasons, and there's this like
57:05
Speaker 1: three thousand year old connection that even predates any of this.
57:09
Speaker 1: So this is actually what gave birth to the Bavarian Illuminati.
57:14
Speaker 1: Was some of this contention over whether or not the
57:17
Speaker 1: Knights Templar directly related to the Freemasons, because in the
57:21
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds there was a group of Freemasons that fully
57:26
Speaker 1: believed it, and they made that their identity.
57:27
Speaker 6: Right.
57:27
Speaker 1: Imagine someone's showing up all the time and they've got
57:30
Speaker 1: like the Knights Templar shirt and they got like Knights
57:32
Speaker 1: Templar tattoos.
57:33
Speaker 6: And they're like, hey, bro, did you ever hear that?
57:36
Speaker 1: Like, you know, I used to be a Knights templar,
57:38
Speaker 1: Like it was like four hundred years ago, but I
57:40
Speaker 1: was a templar. My great great great grandpa was a templar.
57:43
Speaker 1: And like, people holding on to this identity. And the
57:47
Speaker 1: more people try and looked into this and try and find, Okay,
57:49
Speaker 1: what are the actual connections, it became harder and harder
57:52
Speaker 1: to prove. To the point in the late seventeen hundreds
57:56
Speaker 1: there was an internal that like a like a civil
57:59
Speaker 1: war almost with in Freemasonry between people that were like, yes,
58:03
Speaker 1: we came from the Knights Templar, and then people that
58:05
Speaker 1: were like, stop saying that. Put down the sword and
58:09
Speaker 1: the shield. You're role playing, like, no one's a knight,
58:12
Speaker 1: no one's a templar knight. You can't prove any of that.
58:14
Speaker 1: It's fun to talk about, but it's not true. And
58:17
Speaker 1: eventually Freemasonry as a whole in Europe where like no
58:21
Speaker 1: more nights templar crap, like you're not allowed to mention it.
58:23
Speaker 1: We're not going to have any nights templar degrees. It's
58:25
Speaker 1: all gone now. And when that happened, it left all
58:28
Speaker 1: these guys that like, but I bought this sword of
58:31
Speaker 1: this shield that I feel so that I got these
58:32
Speaker 1: tattoos and I've made it my whole identity. The Bavarian
58:36
Speaker 1: Luminati was able to scoop them up because the Bavarian
58:38
Speaker 1: Illuminati was like, hey, guys, like we got a Knight's
58:41
Speaker 1: templar degree, you can role play with us, and that
58:43
Speaker 1: was an easy sell for them. So the claim in
58:47
Speaker 1: this documentary they stayed a matter of fact, it's like, oh, yeah,
58:50
Speaker 1: everybody knows a knights templar and then freemasonry and it's
58:53
Speaker 1: like it's way more nuanced than that, and even within masonry,
58:56
Speaker 1: like masonry as a whole has kind of rejected that,
59:00
Speaker 1: although now in the twentieth century and twenty first century
59:03
Speaker 1: you do have the York right degrees within Blue Lodge masonry,
59:07
Speaker 1: so it gets a little bit complicated. But the way
59:09
Speaker 1: that they phrase it in here, it's like it's a
59:11
Speaker 1: known stated fact, when really it's highly highly.
59:14
Speaker 4: Contested, and isn't some of that also beefing over, like
59:18
Speaker 4: you know, like the Crusades and the Catholic and the
59:20
Speaker 4: different Christianity sections. How Like in that time, everything branched different,
59:24
Speaker 4: branched off, because I remember that there were some documentaries
59:26
Speaker 4: that they were talking about Freemasons and Knights of Templar
59:30
Speaker 4: were like enemies. So it's like that threw me off
59:33
Speaker 4: a little bit, Like I think there is a like
59:34
Speaker 4: so much that I don't know personally.
59:37
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm not an expert, but I think
59:40
Speaker 1: that they do not overlap that by the time the
59:42
Speaker 1: Knights Templar had been squashed out Friday the thirteenth and
59:47
Speaker 1: Jacques de Molay and all that stuff, Freemasonry as it's
59:51
Speaker 1: known today at the earliest might have been around in
59:55
Speaker 1: like the late sixteen hundreds or seventeen hundreds, but there
59:58
Speaker 1: were also it fell and then it rose again under
1:00:01
Speaker 1: the same name, but like a new leader and all
1:00:03
Speaker 1: that stuff that happened a few times, and I think
1:00:06
Speaker 1: the last big resurgence was in the eighteen hundreds. So
1:00:10
Speaker 1: to try and tie things that were happening in the
1:00:12
Speaker 1: twelfth century and in the early fifteenth century to the
1:00:16
Speaker 1: seventeenth century, in eighteenth century, Like it's almost like one
1:00:20
Speaker 1: of those missing link arguments where it's like, where's the
1:00:24
Speaker 1: monkey in between humans and the chimpanzee? Then you know,
1:00:27
Speaker 1: show me where's the middle point? Like there's no middle
1:00:30
Speaker 1: point that's easy to point to that directly ties knights
1:00:33
Speaker 1: templar to Freemasons. Other than Freemasons adopted knights templar symbolism,
1:00:39
Speaker 1: and I think after you roleplay for a few centuries,
1:00:43
Speaker 1: some people are like, of course one knight's templar. I
1:00:45
Speaker 1: got this shield. You know, why else would I have
1:00:47
Speaker 1: the sword? Hidden treasure overboard moments, I'm gonna let you go.
1:01:00
Speaker 6: I'm tired of talking. I'm gonna take a break.
1:01:02
Speaker 4: I would say that the whole film does have hidden
1:01:05
Speaker 4: treasure to me, because there's so much Like I really
1:01:08
Speaker 4: liked and enjoyed the Francis Bacon stuff. I knew a
1:01:12
Speaker 4: little bit about it, but I mean they really put
1:01:14
Speaker 4: him at towards like when you get to the midpoint
1:01:17
Speaker 4: or a little bit past that they.
1:01:18
Speaker 5: Really hone in on him, and that like.
1:01:20
Speaker 4: His influence from their perspective is vast, right, Like he's
1:01:26
Speaker 4: connected and everything, he's connecting the Freemasons and the roads
1:01:30
Speaker 4: Acrucianism and the Shakespeare stuff, and that he's into politics season.
1:01:36
Speaker 4: So it's like in their eyes that he had so
1:01:40
Speaker 4: much not just power and control, but influence.
1:01:43
Speaker 5: And I never thought of it like that, And then
1:01:45
Speaker 5: they do.
1:01:46
Speaker 4: In my opinion, they make a compelling case where I'm like,
1:01:49
Speaker 4: I can see that right, Like, I don't know if
1:01:51
Speaker 4: it's for sure true, but to see that, like the
1:01:54
Speaker 4: John d connection to the Bloody Mary to the Francis
1:01:57
Speaker 4: of Bacon, I liked that.
1:01:58
Speaker 5: I thought that was a really good hidden treasure for
1:02:00
Speaker 5: me where it.
1:02:03
Speaker 4: I never knew how much influence one person can have,
1:02:07
Speaker 4: but I understand they can. But in history context, it
1:02:11
Speaker 4: kind of brings it to that level to me.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess being the head of Freemasons and Rosa
1:02:16
Speaker 1: Crucians at the same time at a certain point in
1:02:19
Speaker 1: history that actually meant something. I don't know if you
1:02:22
Speaker 1: could pull the same thing off in twenty twenty six
1:02:24
Speaker 1: if you're the head of the Rosicrucians and the head
1:02:26
Speaker 1: of the Freemates, So that sounds more of like a headache, right,
1:02:29
Speaker 1: like you just managed two different big YMCA's or something.
1:02:33
Speaker 6: I think that also.
1:02:34
Speaker 1: This documentary, it's long, but it does a great job
1:02:38
Speaker 1: of being thorough and so much of its original footage.
1:02:42
Speaker 1: They go to Roslyn Chapel, they interview, they go to
1:02:45
Speaker 1: the William Shakespeare League or whatever and talk to the guy,
1:02:48
Speaker 1: and the guy's a little bit sassy with him. He's like,
1:02:51
Speaker 1: what do you mean Francis Bacon wrote all of Shakespeare?
1:02:53
Speaker 1: Maybe Shakespeare wrote all France's Bacon. Do you ever think
1:02:56
Speaker 1: about that? Like he kind of gets offended. So I
1:02:59
Speaker 1: love that. Love that all of their footage is original.
1:03:01
Speaker 1: They get original footage in Washington, the freaking re enactments
1:03:06
Speaker 1: that they're doing, all the historical stuff. This has every
1:03:09
Speaker 1: look of a well produced History Channel style documentary, other
1:03:14
Speaker 1: than the weird like Christian angle that they push on
1:03:17
Speaker 1: and like the weird anti Mason put like the conspiratorial
1:03:20
Speaker 1: angle here and there. It's like, hmm, something about this
1:03:23
Speaker 1: isn't quite History Channel. Those are the only real things.
1:03:26
Speaker 1: But everything else this could just be on primetime and
1:03:30
Speaker 1: I think you wouldn't really notice it. It would be loaded
1:03:32
Speaker 1: with like Hyundai commercials, No problem.
1:03:34
Speaker 4: Easy, That's what I the whole time watching it, and
1:03:36
Speaker 4: you're like this is a docuseriies right here right, you
1:03:38
Speaker 4: break it all up. Man, they can make money now obviously,
1:03:42
Speaker 4: like their angles may be not in line with History Channel.
1:03:45
Speaker 4: I think some of the overboard stuff for me, like
1:03:47
Speaker 4: because there's so much hidden treasure, especially some of this
1:03:49
Speaker 4: stuff I did not know about. I haven't watched this stuff,
1:03:52
Speaker 4: so it filled in a lot of blanks for me
1:03:55
Speaker 4: where I'm like, oh, I didn't know that, Like the
1:03:57
Speaker 4: I think the overboard not that's that or anything just
1:04:00
Speaker 4: being be niitpicky.
1:04:01
Speaker 5: I think like where they honed in on.
1:04:03
Speaker 4: The national treasure, like really being like this point of
1:04:07
Speaker 4: like this rebirth almost of the freemasonry, right like they're
1:04:11
Speaker 4: like since that movie now they're back like right, Like
1:04:15
Speaker 4: they didn't say that necessarily, but that's what I kind
1:04:17
Speaker 4: of got from the feel of it.
1:04:19
Speaker 5: That's probably my overboard moment.
1:04:21
Speaker 1: Well, I mentioned that movie caused a tiny spike, but
1:04:24
Speaker 1: that spike did not turn into a new trajectory. So
1:04:28
Speaker 1: when this documentary came out, that movie was brand new.
1:04:31
Speaker 1: That was like a fairly zeitgeisty kind of movie, not
1:04:34
Speaker 1: the zeitgeist a documentary, but like actually like people knew
1:04:37
Speaker 1: about it. Nick Cage I think Disney was like behind it,
1:04:40
Speaker 1: so it was mainstream masonry, and I think when they
1:04:44
Speaker 1: added that segment to this documentary, it was like, this
1:04:48
Speaker 1: is the start of something brand new, like Mason's going
1:04:51
Speaker 1: to explode in population after this, and that never happened.
1:04:54
Speaker 1: So now you watch this and you're just like, why
1:04:57
Speaker 1: did they dedicate fifteen minutes of this documentary National Treasure?
1:05:01
Speaker 1: I think I might have seen that twenty years ago,
1:05:03
Speaker 1: but like, who cares about that movie? I think when
1:05:05
Speaker 1: this came out, they weren't thinking about it that way,
1:05:08
Speaker 1: and maybe it was smart because it might have gotten
1:05:10
Speaker 1: people that were interested in National Treasure to be like, oh,
1:05:13
Speaker 1: there's there's something more to it. So it was a
1:05:16
Speaker 1: great marketing technique twenty years ago, but it definitely dates
1:05:20
Speaker 1: this so I don't know if it's overboard. I guess yeah,
1:05:23
Speaker 1: I guess it is overboard, because like, who cares that
1:05:26
Speaker 1: the National Treasure movie had this?
1:05:28
Speaker 6: There's been other one since then.
1:05:30
Speaker 1: The other here's another overboard one is that Bill Still
1:05:34
Speaker 1: actually says that when they're talking about the decline in
1:05:38
Speaker 1: nasonry after the Morgan affair, He's like, and you know,
1:05:42
Speaker 1: maybe some of my books have also contributed to this,
1:05:45
Speaker 1: you know, this national decline. And I mean, I love
1:05:49
Speaker 1: Bill still Bro, I love money Masters. He is like
1:05:51
Speaker 1: such an og but it did seem like he's maybe
1:05:54
Speaker 1: sniffing his own farts a little bit to be like,
1:05:58
Speaker 1: I'm personally responsible for a nat decline in freemasonry because
1:06:01
Speaker 1: of the books.
1:06:02
Speaker 6: That I've written.
1:06:03
Speaker 4: He's like Darryl Davis of freemasonry, right, he was like,
1:06:06
Speaker 4: I shut down.
1:06:07
Speaker 6: Three lodges in Maryland.
1:06:12
Speaker 1: The other thing, I just have to say this, the
1:06:14
Speaker 1: lay lines thing. I don't want to be close minded.
1:06:18
Speaker 1: I'm open to the idea that there could be anomalies
1:06:22
Speaker 1: and patterns and like energy and all this stuff. But
1:06:25
Speaker 1: usually when lay lines come up, it's someone that dropped
1:06:28
Speaker 1: out in seventh grade and they went and they started
1:06:31
Speaker 1: making their own hemp bracelets and they're you know, like
1:06:34
Speaker 1: like worshiping pyramid crystals and stuff and talking about how
1:06:38
Speaker 1: the way science feels is more important than like, you know,
1:06:41
Speaker 1: the grades they got or whatever. It just has this
1:06:44
Speaker 1: this weird non tangible like you don't have to define
1:06:47
Speaker 1: exactly what a lay line is.
1:06:49
Speaker 4: Here.
1:06:49
Speaker 1: Here's what they claim in the documentary Great Circles Lines
1:06:53
Speaker 1: of Power currents of power, magical significance, portals for spirits
1:07:00
Speaker 1: to travel to and from monuments. I mean, can we
1:07:04
Speaker 1: quantify any of that?
1:07:06
Speaker 6: I don't know.
1:07:07
Speaker 1: And the reason why I get a little bit annoyed
1:07:09
Speaker 1: on this is that it sounds like something that would
1:07:12
Speaker 1: be so important. If lay lines were really like this
1:07:15
Speaker 1: objectively real, we should be building everything on lay lines.
1:07:18
Speaker 1: We should make sure McDonald's aren't getting built on lay lines.
1:07:20
Speaker 1: We should like put I don't know what we should
1:07:22
Speaker 1: be doing with them. We should be doing something with them.
1:07:24
Speaker 1: And if they're really true and that valuable, then why
1:07:28
Speaker 1: isn't there like a coordinated effort of everyone, like let's
1:07:32
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this lay line thing once
1:07:34
Speaker 1: and for all. How much energy? How do we measure it?
1:07:37
Speaker 1: And you see a lot of like the videos and
1:07:39
Speaker 1: stuff that will pop up on YouTube. But it's like
1:07:41
Speaker 1: someone pulls up in like they're Kia, and they it
1:07:44
Speaker 1: took like a long weekend off of work at the
1:07:46
Speaker 1: call center and now they're going to prove that portals
1:07:48
Speaker 1: exist and then they go back to, you know, their
1:07:50
Speaker 1: job on Monday. It's like, I don't know, I want
1:07:53
Speaker 1: to see someone give it more attention than just mentioning
1:07:57
Speaker 1: it as a funny little novelty.
1:07:58
Speaker 6: If it's real, it's real, and it's not real, it's
1:08:01
Speaker 6: not real, And.
1:08:01
Speaker 5: Who's bootleg so much? Should be bootlegging it?
1:08:03
Speaker 4: Right? If there's power source, like so there should be
1:08:06
Speaker 4: some guy like, yeah, I run my generators off the
1:08:08
Speaker 4: lay lines.
1:08:08
Speaker 1: Well that's the claim though, is that it's that it's
1:08:11
Speaker 1: Washington doing this, and that it's all of these elites
1:08:14
Speaker 1: and freemasons that know about the lay lines and they're
1:08:16
Speaker 1: the ones putting all these monuments and all these buildings
1:08:20
Speaker 1: on these lay lines to harness that power somehow, but
1:08:23
Speaker 1: it's not actually running the electric like they still have
1:08:27
Speaker 1: to pay electric bills, I assume. So, like, what is
1:08:30
Speaker 1: the quantifiable thing, right, what is it that makes it special?
1:08:38
Speaker 6: All?
1:08:39
Speaker 4: Right?
1:08:39
Speaker 1: Before we do a complete sink or swim, I just
1:08:42
Speaker 1: want to announce some maybe awards. Maybe you can give
1:08:44
Speaker 1: documentaries awards once in a while, So this one, I
1:08:48
Speaker 1: feel wins the award for the longest title that we've
1:08:51
Speaker 1: reviewed so far. The whole title again was Secret Mysteries
1:08:56
Speaker 1: of America's Beginnings Volume one, The New Atlantis, and I
1:08:59
Speaker 1: believe there was even more after that, but that's as
1:09:02
Speaker 1: long as I felt like typing out.
1:09:04
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's even and then that may
1:09:06
Speaker 4: do the maximum characters on Twitter as well, right, Like,
1:09:09
Speaker 4: I don't know if we can even put that in
1:09:10
Speaker 4: a tweet.
1:09:11
Speaker 1: Well, just do something click baity anyways, like did Satan?
1:09:14
Speaker 1: Did Satan rule America? Did Benjamin Franklin use orgy magic
1:09:18
Speaker 1: to control America?
1:09:20
Speaker 4: Benjamin Franklin and George Washington in the Mason Lodge of
1:09:24
Speaker 4: Orgies in Hellfire?
1:09:28
Speaker 6: So sink or swim this film.
1:09:32
Speaker 4: As they get a little bit like back and forth,
1:09:35
Speaker 4: they can't decide if they like Masons or hate Mason's.
1:09:38
Speaker 4: There is a lot of information in here that I
1:09:41
Speaker 4: enjoyed that I'm like, Okay, I get it, like people
1:09:45
Speaker 4: are Masons, and that I kind of got took that
1:09:47
Speaker 4: element out of it.
1:09:48
Speaker 5: I love the quality of it.
1:09:50
Speaker 4: I really thought they captured, not just even even just
1:09:53
Speaker 4: the interview scenes of like putting it together, that it's
1:09:56
Speaker 4: something that I thought I can watch on television easily
1:10:00
Speaker 4: and not even blink and eye. I also liked the
1:10:04
Speaker 4: fact that they broke out stuff and tried their best
1:10:06
Speaker 4: to show the receipts and where they got it. From that,
1:10:09
Speaker 4: there's some stuff that got wrong and doesn't hold to
1:10:11
Speaker 4: the test of time, because I mean it was in
1:10:13
Speaker 4: two thousand and six. It's easy for me to be
1:10:16
Speaker 4: critical on it because it's twenty years later, right, I
1:10:19
Speaker 4: can point out the flaws. But I really give this
1:10:22
Speaker 4: a swim. I think this is a great film. I
1:10:24
Speaker 4: would suggest this to people. I understand that not everybody
1:10:27
Speaker 4: could get through two hours and forty five minutes, but
1:10:29
Speaker 4: for me, it's something that you're gonna come back and go, Wow,
1:10:33
Speaker 4: there's a lot of information. If you look at these
1:10:35
Speaker 4: films like this, you don't have to look at exactly
1:10:37
Speaker 4: through their perspective, but take the information as it comes out.
1:10:40
Speaker 5: And I thought it's well put together.
1:10:42
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those documentaries too, that
1:10:44
Speaker 1: even if you're the one that made the documentary or
1:10:47
Speaker 1: wrote it, or you were in the documentary, you could
1:10:50
Speaker 1: watch this ten years later and be like, oh, I
1:10:52
Speaker 1: didn't know that, and like, we mean you didn't know that,
1:10:54
Speaker 1: Like this is your thing, but there's just it's jam
1:10:56
Speaker 1: packed with so much of this. I think that it's
1:10:59
Speaker 1: probably the more spectacular breakdowns of freemasonry. Washington, d C.
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Speaker 1: The Hell Fire Club Francis Bacon. They break down the
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Speaker 1: forty seventh proposition of euclid, which is a very niche
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Speaker 1: occult topic, pythagre and theorem.
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Speaker 6: They have a reenactment of the William Morgan affair.
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Speaker 1: The only weird thing is that the movie has this
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Speaker 1: crazy obsession with these Christian purity tests. Like every time
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Speaker 1: they bring somebody up, it's almost like they have to
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Speaker 1: be like, now, let's talk about if they were a
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Speaker 1: real Christian or not. And they don't tell you what
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Speaker 1: a real Christian is. You only have to infer that
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Speaker 1: to when they talk about Bloody Mary versus Queen Elizabeth.
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Speaker 1: But they don't really mention as much that it's like
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Speaker 1: an evil queen versus a good queen. It's more like
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Speaker 1: the Catholic queen versus the Protestant queen in a way.
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Speaker 1: So then so then later you're like, okay, so when
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Speaker 1: you're saying were they a real Christian or not, we're
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Speaker 1: saying were they a Protestant or not? Again, it's it
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Speaker 1: takes a backseat. It's subtle enough that maybe you won't
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Speaker 1: notice it, but they mention it more than a few times,
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Speaker 1: and you can clearly tell that they're trying to paint
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Speaker 1: groups and either a good light or a bad light.
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Speaker 1: But they're not specific enough about it at any point
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Speaker 1: where like you know for sure, like Okay, that's a
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Speaker 1: good guy, that's a bad guy. They just kind of
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Speaker 1: like kick a little bit of mud up. Aside from
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Speaker 1: all that, I can easily turn that off, ignore that,
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Speaker 1: I can like turn that switch off, like whatever, you
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Speaker 1: got your bias. I'm going to pay attention to the
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Speaker 1: parts that seem objective, and by doing that, there's absolutely
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Speaker 1: no flaw in this documentary. I've complained about the lay
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Speaker 1: lines thing and some of the other claims, but honestly,
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Speaker 1: those claims and the way they make it like so
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Speaker 1: matter of fact, it makes this like a History Channel
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