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NFL First Look | Week 15 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's gone clear.
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  Speaker 2: We lift on.
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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 1: back for another edition of the First Look Show. Here
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  Speaker 1: on the Ship at Nation YouTube Station, got Hoopster here
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  Speaker 1: with me this week. DJN taking a week off but
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  Speaker 1: getting better and doing his thing, so we'll get him
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  Speaker 1: back next week. But week fifteen ahead, Hoopster, we got
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  Speaker 1: a big one. We're getting through this season fast and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go game by game. You do our usual
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  Speaker 1: first look, actual true first look. I got my notes
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  Speaker 1: ready to take down. But the next closest guy to
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  Speaker 1: the DJON on the Good Calls is Hoopster. Hoops was
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  Speaker 1: making all kinds of good calls lately. DJON had the
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen Nakua just play them naked. That was literally
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  Speaker 1: in my notes. I circled the two and it said, again,
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  Speaker 1: you could have got away with shakiir. All that reality
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  Speaker 1: was play those two and you were in pretty good shape.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on, Hoopster, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: We actually talked about that on the Sunday show because
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  Speaker 3: that is always no more dressing up to had to
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  Speaker 3: dress down.
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  Speaker 2: For the First Look show. You know, we're off the
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  Speaker 2: showdown New Week.
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  Speaker 3: You're not going to see me dressed up with my
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  Speaker 3: hair now, I don't think, probably for the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the season.
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  Speaker 2: So nothing to worry about there.
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  Speaker 3: But we didn't talk about that on the Sunday Morning
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  Speaker 3: Show because it's always a challenge with Josh Allen stacks,
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  Speaker 3: like who do you want to pair them with?
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  Speaker 2: If you're running it back.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard if it's more expensive runback, because you're
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  Speaker 3: already paying up at quarterback, then you're paying out for
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  Speaker 3: another spot. And I mean, I know I specifically kind
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  Speaker 3: of brought it up where what I was doing, and
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  Speaker 3: I do this on a lot of teams where I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying I don't need to stack Josh Allen, but on
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen teams, I want at least one pass catcher
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  Speaker 3: from Buffalo or one pass catcher from the Rams.
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  Speaker 2: And that ended up being, you know, the play.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously the team that I had that did well
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  Speaker 3: did have Shaki bad a lot of teams that had
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  Speaker 3: just Josh Allen and just mccooaugh on the other side,
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  Speaker 3: and that obviously worked out well. And it's always going
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  Speaker 3: to be a challenge when we don't have a ton
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  Speaker 3: of value and we have guys that are expensive that
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  Speaker 3: we want to play, such as a Josh Allen at quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: It obviously worked out last week's as a good call
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  Speaker 3: by Djen, and I think you know, we kind of
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  Speaker 3: piggybacked it as well on the on the Sunday Money Show.
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  Speaker 1: It segues good because the tis then we're about to
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  Speaker 1: get to the first game here and go through this again.
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  Speaker 1: We go game by game, just try and keep it
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  Speaker 1: easy for you guys. But I will say, like that's
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  Speaker 1: the other thing. We talk about this every single week.
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  Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday. This content is not for everybody, but
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people do like to get sort of
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  Speaker 1: a first glance, get an overview, get some ideas. You
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  Speaker 1: still have to take the slate that comes at you, though,
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  Speaker 1: And I think the big thing was Hoop and myself
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  Speaker 1: included like I adapt to but he was like last
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  Speaker 1: in because of the thought seeing at the end. But
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  Speaker 1: the slate gave us Kenneth Walker being out later in
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  Speaker 1: the week, and it gave it to us early enough
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  Speaker 1: that when Nads and I did take Down Breakdown yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: you could see Nikua and Shakir were really popping in
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  Speaker 1: our wide receiver values for the week. But it was
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  Speaker 1: like you couldn't get to Josh Allen. But wait, Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: Walker goes out. Now you can't very easily. So what
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  Speaker 1: does that do a lot of people start with quarterback?
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  Speaker 1: Have you started with the cheap running backs? Saw the
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  Speaker 1: Shakir Niakua, even if you weren't loving it, that was
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  Speaker 1: just a way to naturally get different. The rest of
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  Speaker 1: the lineup almost pieces itself together. And you had something
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  Speaker 1: like that over on FanDuel having a pretty big week
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  Speaker 1: as well. So it's just the slate comes at you
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  Speaker 1: pretty fast sometimes as the week goes on. Calvin Austin,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, on Sunday instead of you could have
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  Speaker 1: went to Friar Mooth and a lot of he showed
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  Speaker 1: up in winning lines. Najee Harris Kevin as.
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  Speaker 2: Calvin Kevin did.
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  Speaker 1: Beat Calvin by one yard one catch for five versus
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  Speaker 1: one catch for four. But either way, good stuff to
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  Speaker 1: look at. And that's why we like when these first
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  Speaker 1: look shows. You guys are able to see it go
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  Speaker 1: through it with us. We can all find the stuff
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  Speaker 1: as we go along. If we come up with things,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to them and look them up and more.
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  Speaker 1: We got the grades on here hoopster, we got the
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  Speaker 1: you know everything, but the data obviously if you guys
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  Speaker 1: are shiping nation members, we do update this. Our initial
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  Speaker 1: goes up on Wednesdays, and that's where we start to
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  Speaker 1: plug in things like the stack ranking, the DK and
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  Speaker 1: projections and ownership. We start to get the optimal levels,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of color coding going, and then by Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: of course you've got the actual games designated as well.
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  Speaker 1: But let's start it off here, hope. We've got I
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  Speaker 1: think twelve games this week right too, twelve and twelve, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and lots of more afternoon. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: any any grand scheme overview or have you even looked yet?
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  Speaker 1: Usually DJ and I start from pure scratch.
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  Speaker 2: No, I haven't looked, and someone in the chatted post.
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  Speaker 3: So that it looks like it's a split, so that
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  Speaker 3: or a decent So there's one. There's five afternoon games,
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  Speaker 3: which for game theory stuff is interesting because you got
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  Speaker 3: a lot more options to swap, and we always talk
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  Speaker 3: about it like, you know, you can do it multiple
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  Speaker 3: ways when it comes to swapping going into the afternoon games.
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  Speaker 3: If your team kind of busted, go super off the chalk.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when you make those swaps, if your team
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  Speaker 3: succeeded early on and you had a lot of low
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  Speaker 3: owned guys go off, you can get a little more
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  Speaker 3: on the beaten path and play some more of those
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  Speaker 3: popular guys are pivot to more of the popular guys
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  Speaker 3: in the afternoon. So a variety of ways to kind
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  Speaker 3: of go about it. But the one thing is you
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  Speaker 3: definitely have more options this week with five games. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we've had as little as three at some point this season,
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  Speaker 3: so five games in the afternoon gives you more options
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  Speaker 3: for late swap, and if.
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  Speaker 1: You want to play both slates, like they were talking
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  Speaker 1: about as well, you'd be able to just play afternoon
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  Speaker 1: only if you want some really good slate that way,
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  Speaker 1: Just remember the big one that comes up often is
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  Speaker 1: because you know, like last week would have been a
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  Speaker 1: great example, smaller afternoon slate, but those running backs you
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  Speaker 1: know in the in the afternoons like get even more
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  Speaker 1: pop because that's all there is on that slate. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like things like that, or some people will say,
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  Speaker 1: oh so and so, like Niku is going overlooked or
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  Speaker 1: Cup is going overlooked. But then in the afternoon slate.
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  Speaker 1: He's not going as overlooked because there's only three games
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  Speaker 1: on that slate and kind of have to land somewhere
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  Speaker 1: more people leveraging up on Nakua things like that. Let's
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  Speaker 1: hop into the first game and it's a team we
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  Speaker 1: just saw last night, the Dallas Cowboys going in to
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  Speaker 1: play the Panthers. And it's an interesting spot because obviously
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  Speaker 1: everyone beats up on these Panthers. You can run all
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  Speaker 1: over them. We saw Daubtell last night, like we talked
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  Speaker 1: about on the show, just gonna hammer this guy, and
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  Speaker 1: he got the bonus he had, you know, a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of chances. But thoughts on this game Dallas at the Panthers.
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  Speaker 2: Not super appealing.
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  Speaker 3: I mean the total that's one thing you can definitely
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  Speaker 3: take take away from this early on in the week
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  Speaker 3: total spread.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Panthers favored, which is crazy. Panthers favored by
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  Speaker 2: two and a half.
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  Speaker 1: And so far off.
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  Speaker 3: No, man, it's just crazy forty two and a half.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the reason that they're favored is I mean, man,
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  Speaker 3: it's like it's been bad.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, it's been really bad.
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  Speaker 3: And we've talked about it for a while on the
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  Speaker 3: shows where They're still going out there looking to win
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  Speaker 3: ball game.
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  Speaker 2: At some point that that could potentially come to an end.
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  Speaker 3: And I think Vegas is kind of thinking that this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be the week where they're like, fuck,
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  Speaker 3: whatever happens happens type situation, because they got the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: favored by two and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Low total, there's twelve games on this slid.
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming again this is a very raw first look,
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  Speaker 3: just diving in, and I haven't even looked at many
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  Speaker 3: team totals or game spreads or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: Just not super appealing. I think total is going to
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  Speaker 2: be fine.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, sixty one hundred on DK, but what really
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  Speaker 3: stands out is the seventy one hundred on FanDuel is
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  Speaker 3: going to be really really cheap this week, and I
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  Speaker 3: have to imagine his workload continues regardless of their mindset.
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  Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb got it done early, but then kind of
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  Speaker 3: cooled off a little bit, and you know, talking the
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  Speaker 3: commentators talking last night, there seems to be legit concern
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  Speaker 3: with the shoulder injury. I mean, I'm sure he's fine,
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna play, but you could see it was bothering
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  Speaker 3: him during the game.
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  Speaker 2: I mean if you fell on that.
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  Speaker 3: Side, like he was getting up relatively slow, so I
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  Speaker 3: think there are some concerns there. Schoonmaker played a lot
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  Speaker 3: more than I think we anticipated.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I played him on Showdown.
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  Speaker 3: I had probably like four or five percent, which is
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  Speaker 3: way over the field. But he played in spots where
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  Speaker 3: Ferguson typically gets all the work. So I did think
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  Speaker 3: that was one thing that's interesting. Definitely takes away some
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  Speaker 3: appeal from a guy like Ferguson. This week, Tolbert really
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  Speaker 3: didn't do shit, So I don't know, it's tough. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Rico for sure stands out. Then on the panther side,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can look at probably Chubb, a Hubbard
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  Speaker 3: and some of these pass catches. I mean they're they're
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  Speaker 3: projected to win a ballgame, like they're they're favored to
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  Speaker 3: win a ballgame, which I don't think has been the
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  Speaker 3: case all season long. Bryce Young fifty three hundred and
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  Speaker 3: then on FanDuel sixty eight, he's actually looked relatively good.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a pretty decent spot for m
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  Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to see how it all stacks up.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, an easy way to play this game,
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  Speaker 3: I think if you want exposure early on in the week.
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  Speaker 3: Would be like Bryce Young single stack with Arico on
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  Speaker 3: the other side, because I think he goes the one
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  Speaker 3: guy you can count on.
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  Speaker 2: With Dallas over there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing to know, because I don't have much
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  Speaker 1: interest at all in the Dallas. I'd actually worry a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about what you said too, is just eventually
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  Speaker 1: just shutting it down like Fergie was first game back.
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  Speaker 1: But also it's like, now why But like with CD
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  Speaker 1: at the shoulder and stuff, it seems pretty fair if
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  Speaker 1: you land there in a secondary stack or something. I
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  Speaker 1: get it. But I would actually have more interest in
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  Speaker 1: the in the panther side and Thilan at fifty four
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  Speaker 1: hundred another good game, and people just are gonna expect
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  Speaker 1: the first game. I said this last week about Judy
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  Speaker 1: said it about deal and it's not like they were needed.
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  Speaker 1: The point being though, is like they don't need to
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  Speaker 1: put up You want forty point games or thirty point
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  Speaker 1: games out of them, but it's just not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: what you need at these price tags. So I'm more
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  Speaker 1: than fine with something like that. And then also Cuba Hubbard,
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  Speaker 1: don't forget you know, it's pretty sad and unfortunate news.
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  Speaker 1: But Jonathan Brooks retore his same ACL so I mean
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  Speaker 1: they go back. That was kind of why people were
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  Speaker 1: moving off Cuba. Hubbard's been great all season. He gets
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  Speaker 1: the snaps, he gets targets, he gets a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: rushes per game. They're a favorite. Now this could be
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  Speaker 1: a back and forth affair, and I just don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about Miles Sanders. And with Brooks out now that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of what I thought they were leaning back into. And
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  Speaker 1: the unfortunate news of his injury so sucks for him
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  Speaker 1: as a young player, and that happening twice. But for
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  Speaker 1: Chub Hubbard here opposite side of doubt all I've got
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  Speaker 1: interest in both these running backs in this game, and
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of it. And feeling maybe the case for
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas guys, but not a lot. There's let's move on.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Chiefs at the Browns sixty seven
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  Speaker 1: hundred fifty seven on. I mean, I'm not playing Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: we know that. But the Browns at home here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Winston stuff, you know, kind of came down to earth
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  Speaker 1: a little bit last week. We did weren't sure how
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  Speaker 1: that game was gonna go. Kind of a sneaky game,
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  Speaker 1: because both them and the Steelers were coming off of
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  Speaker 1: huge scoring affairs and big time output. Not so much
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  Speaker 1: for the Browns last week. Do you think they bounced
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  Speaker 1: back here? How do you see this one play out?
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  Speaker 3: The one thing that definitely kind of stands out right
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  Speaker 3: out of the gate is the Chiefs only favored by
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  Speaker 3: four four and a half. I mean, he probably would
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  Speaker 3: have anticipated that number being a little bit higher.
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  Speaker 2: But man, they're just.
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  Speaker 3: Playing nasty, grinded out type games, and they've been winning
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  Speaker 3: them all season long, and they have just an uncanny
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  Speaker 3: ability to make these games gross ugly sluggish. It's happened
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  Speaker 3: all season long, and honestly it's probably by design. Now
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  Speaker 3: they have two reliable running backs, just not a spot
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  Speaker 3: that I'm gonna be looking to, I mean, Travis Kelcey. Potentially,
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  Speaker 3: we've got to see what else we have at tight end.
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  Speaker 3: But like the sixty seven hundred on FanDuel is the
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  Speaker 3: one I guess price that might stand out a little
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  Speaker 3: bit to me. Yeah, the wins, the Winston stuff, like
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  Speaker 3: you said, came back to reality quite a bit. Status
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  Speaker 3: of Tillman, I guess would be somewhat important officially, questionable
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  Speaker 3: de practice, so he's in the concussion protocol. I'm assuming
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna have enough time to get back now. I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's missed what at least is it two weeks
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, so I assume he's probably back in the
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  Speaker 3: mix a little bit. So it does muddy things up,
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  Speaker 3: But you know, my initial lean on this game right
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  Speaker 3: out of the gate is the Chiefs on the road
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  Speaker 3: find a way to just make this ugly, like they've
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  Speaker 3: done with the majority games this season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Nicks call out here too, like Herbert
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  Speaker 1: had his chances. All Winston does throw Man. So it
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  Speaker 1: didn't work out last week very well, but it started out.
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  Speaker 1: Find the judy got in the box right away. I
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  Speaker 1: know Tilman was out, but just to say it like
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  Speaker 1: more didn't work out for people, But I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was a fine play the price there. We'll have to
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  Speaker 1: wait and see the Tilman news in Djoku. Still getting
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  Speaker 1: a ton of targets the guys just he needed Jameis
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  Speaker 1: Winston to unlock him. He's very capable. He's a big boy.
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  Speaker 1: If you ever see him out there, I mean he's
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  Speaker 1: just tough. You're not really gonna be you can try
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  Speaker 1: double teaming him and whatnot. But once you get down
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  Speaker 1: to that red zone end zone area in joke, who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be involved. And it's interesting because the price tag
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  Speaker 1: so similar on both on both sites, and I think
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  Speaker 1: this could be a spot that you could get after it.
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  Speaker 1: Even though it's the forty five forty six point total
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  Speaker 1: range type thing, forty six and a half whatever, This
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  Speaker 1: is kind of the setup where I could see it
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  Speaker 1: being that you go with pieces in these games. Did
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  Speaker 1: you have any quick take just the rush d has
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  Speaker 1: not been great. I know you were interested in Nase
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  Speaker 1: last week. I know it was more to do with
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  Speaker 1: the injury stuff too Pickens, but even before Pickens was
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I thought was a surprise by the
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  Speaker 1: way news just came up, well, we're here live saying
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  Speaker 1: that he's actually unlikely but an outside chance to play
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  Speaker 1: this week. I actually thought he was gonna be fine
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  Speaker 1: last week. I was more worried about neighbors, but just
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  Speaker 1: some curious Did you have any love for Pachecko or
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  Speaker 1: Hunt after seeing Pacheco come back in this matchup against
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  Speaker 1: the Browns?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you said, yeah, And they clearly want Pacheco to
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  Speaker 3: be the guy. I mean, he came right in with
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  Speaker 3: what was it fourteen last week he got up to
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  Speaker 3: fourteen carries and so sixteen touches, he's only six k
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  Speaker 3: on DK.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have it up there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the FanDuel price is, but it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be cheap and it's probably.
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  Speaker 2: Only gonna go up.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, like maybe some sort of combination Pachecko Chiefs D.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Chiefs D's in obviously a really good spot
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  Speaker 3: with Jamis throwing the ball, So that sort of combination
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  Speaker 3: is something that I would potentially be be interested in.
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  Speaker 3: Can definitely still you know, run it back with something
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  Speaker 3: if you do want to play that combo, because you're
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  Speaker 3: playing Chiefs D for like a pick six, like obviously
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  Speaker 3: that's what you're playing a deep defense for with the
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  Speaker 3: defense that's going against Jameis Winston. So I still don't
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  Speaker 3: hate adding in a Cleveland piece. Uh, if you do
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  Speaker 3: something like that, which is I guess kind of a
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  Speaker 3: little bit off the wall, but yeah, not a ton
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  Speaker 3: really on the passing. I mean maybe just like Kelsey,
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  Speaker 3: you guys see what else we have at tight end. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and if you if you do the nice thing is
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  Speaker 3: I guess if you do go with some of the
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  Speaker 3: chief stuff. You have a lot of potential runbacks on
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: the other side besides Nick Chubb, Like, let's let's just
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: be done with the Nick Chubb thing. I don't even
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: know what he did last week. I'm assuming he sucked
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: because he's just done. Yeah, eleven carries forty eight yards.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, Nick Chubb is a disaster. So he's the
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: only guy you know definitely would would rule out.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: You mean on a main slate with twelve games is
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be tricky as well, but you know, we'll see
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: as the week gozo. Let's go to the next one
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: here Dolphins at a Texans And you know there was
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: a Nick I think was chat earlier?
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Do it?
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Do we need to have the Bryce Young is better
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: than Stroud discussion? Was it a you know, a one
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: hitter quitter for Stroud last year because you know, the
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: injuries and stuff all up to the dudes around him.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: But you would have thought coming into this season with
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Collins and Dell and Digs and everything before the injuries happened,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: would have been much better it. Obviously, the injuries happened,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: things got worse all that, but still, what's your thoughts
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: on this, so we kind of like the Miami spot
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: last week and Tyreek had a good game, but not
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the other guys had better. John who Smith
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: did nothing until you know, at the end of the game.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I think he caught that touchdown, right, so that solved that.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: But like, what what do you see here with this
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: game Dolphins at the Texas.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Stroud stuff, I mean it's pretty clear.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: I mean they brought on Joe Mix and Joe Mixon
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: has looked a phenomenal I mean, almost like a new
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: player from when he was with Cincinnati.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about it.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: He's been great right out of the gate, and it's
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: kind of like, if it's not not broke.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Don't fix it.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Now, that's no excuse for Stroud missing missing some passes,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: and obviously there's something going on with the chemistry between
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: him and Tank Dell and he hasn't been needed. You know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Stroud has not been needed at all for fantasy purposes,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: and you have to imagine at some point like he
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: gets it going a little bit. So I don't necessarily
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: hate this spot. Seven four hundred on FanDuel seems nice.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Sixty two, So we're basically at a floor price for
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: strap No. I mean this is I guess the lowest
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: price we've seen. He probably belongs down here based on
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: the production. But like, this is a game that could
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: be very very nice. I mean, Dolphins Texans, we got
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: a total of forty seven and a half potentially could
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: go up close spread Houston's only favored by two and
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: a half.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Three, a lot of pieces on both sides.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is like a game stack potential, it
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: appears to me, And I'm fine, you know, continuing to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: play two.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I mean two was fine.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: But the thing is we had quarterbacks that just absolutely
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: went off this past week, so.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: It wasn't needed.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: And you know, you got both quarterbacks that think playable
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: running backs h Han and mixing playable three pass catchers
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: on both sides like Hill Waddle, John Yu on the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Dolphins side, Nico Tank Dell. You know, if you watch
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: the shows, you know, I got to mention my boy,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz, He's still.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Cheap their So you have.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Plays plays at every position in this game, which makes
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: it very appealing for fantasy purposes. I do think though,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: you know, initial read before we continue on and check
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: out some of these other games. There's probably gonna be
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: some ownership here. I mean, Kyrie had the big game,
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: got there, laid his price is still cheap, like eighty
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: or seventy four on DK. That's a cheap one. So
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: it looks good.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I think the field probably ends up getting on this
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: one quite a bit.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta think about that. I'm gonna dress a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: couple things. In the chat. Jen Joseph brought up the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: nice thing about the stone. Yeah, you can always tell
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: what the pace is going to be. The one thing
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: about that, though, you got to add other factors. As
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: much as any game could be, it goes one way
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: or the other. So that's how you think about it.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying more of like going into the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: dog pound is never easy. Kansas City wants to play
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a ground and pound style game, there is the ability
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: for that. But again, if it shoots out early, you
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: could see like a Jamis versus the I can't even
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: bear the Jamis interview after the game. If he beats
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Oh my gosh, that one off because the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: guy's funny, but it's just hilarious some of the stuff
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: he says. If he beats Patrick Mahomes and takes them
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: off their rocker. That would be insane, So build for
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: that if that's what you think. So I'll note that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And then the next one was gonna be just to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Hoops point here like it was brought up. Reek did
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: have a good game, just didn't show up on a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: lot of the winners like it was like Nikua smashed that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: A bunch of cheaper plays got very close. Like a
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: fifty two hundred dollars Jennings at twenty six or twenty
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: seven is always going to show up more than a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: seventy one hundred dollars week who was still kind of
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: lower owned at thirty one points right on a seventy
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars price tag now up to seventy four.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So build accordingly, see where the ownership goes. Like Hoop said,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I think if you're going after these games, typically with
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: these Dolphins games, you know hen can get involved Tyreek,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: John Hu Tua kind of cut it off there and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: then mix your pieces. But you the overstack seems better
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: than just picking your spots more than a think. It's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like either it does or it doesn't. And that's how
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I kind of like building for at least thinking about
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: it early on in a dome too.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, the weather's obviously shifting in a big so
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: some of these outdoor games are going to be at
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: a disadvantage.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: This in a dome clear advantage.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And of note, I mean we DJ and I talk
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: about that some weeks, so I'm glad you brought that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: up because people always ask in the chat. No one
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: has yet today, but when do you sort of move
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: to that? Mid December pretty good time to move to that.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And when you have mid December and more games than
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: what we've seen lately with all the bye weeks and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the extras and did a lot of ten games slates,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: will you pop up the game size the slate size.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: That's when you kind of you want an easy way
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: to cross off some games or at least feel comfortable
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: about it so you're not mad the next day cross
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: them off when there's big time weather involved or potential
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: for it, versus just picking some of these good dome
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: spots and picking your pieces, especially when it comes to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: your secondary stacks and things like that. Let's go to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the next one here, Jets at the Jags don't see
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of appeal, but maybe you see I mean
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: going against the Jags. I guess Aaron Rodgers DeVante Adams
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: finally showed up. There's still priced, right, But any thoughts
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: One low total, I mean the total sitting at forty
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: and a half, Jets favored by three and a half.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have to wait and see in the Breese
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Hall situation whether or not.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: He is back.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna continue just to side with Davante
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Adams over Garrett Wilson, and I think I think they're
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: just you know, Aaron Rodgers is in son of Eyes to.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Get the ball to Davante Adams.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, the whole reason DeVante Adams is with the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Jets is because of Aaron Rodgers.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: What did Wilson do last week?
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: It was so hard at the wide receiver position because
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: he just needed like a couple guys and no one
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: else really mattered like you talked about. So yeah, he
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: still went for seven and in one fourteen. But I'm
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: gonna continue to play Aaron DeVante Adams over him. It's
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: honestly might be my only play in this game unless
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Priest halls off, Briest halls up, Maybe go back to
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: brilin Alan.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: But the Jaguars.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Anytime a team is just fully dead and really is
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: underperformed all season, I just don't have much much interest,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: So just probably DeVante is the play here for me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of like it from that angle too.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: It's a single see how you know a secondary stack
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: might shake out. Maybe there's opportunity to pick up one
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: from either side or something with these guys, but only
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: really because the price is fair, like a fifty eight
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars Brian Thomas Junior or a sixty nine hundred
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: dollars Adams or something like that, I've got no problem
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: getting behind it. I don't think too much else to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: me on this one because we have such a big slate.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep it moving, but if stuff comes up,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: will be on it as the week goes on. So
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Commander's at the Saints oop. It doesn't get much better
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: with this one, but the Jayden and Daniel stuff and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: fighting for Rookie of the Year with bo Nix and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: people started going back and forth between that stuff. I
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: think Daniel showed, but you know, seventy five hundred price
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: tag on him. So thoughts on this one.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough. I mean, Derek Carr. Who's the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: quarterback now, I can't remember the dude's name. I saw
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: it on Twitter. It's some random, shitty dude, Kamara. I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: guess it is fine, but man, it's gonna be an
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: offense that struggles. There're seven and a half point underdogs.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Total in this one is pretty low. So the team
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: total on what are we showing, We're showing like seventeen.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a very low team total for
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the Saints.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I don't want much in this game with the new
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: quarterback coming in to I'm sure someone in the chat.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Who is a Horner or Radlers.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, Spencer Radler, I think yeah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: And they signed this dude, this's bench. Yeah, So it's
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: gonna probably be a disaster for the Saints. The thing
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that stands out for me though, on the commander's side
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: is a guy that continues just to come in criminally
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: low owned every single slate and he's gone off a
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: couple times this year. It's Terry McLaurin. I mean, he's
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: gonna be I mean, I imagine on twelve games slate
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: continue to be low owned. He's got a real price tag.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Seventy two DK eighty two on FanDuel. People are not
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: gonna want to pay it. I'm imagining early on in
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: the week. I mean, I think he's probably one or
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: two percent owned, and he's had multiple touchdowns a couple
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: times this year. So that's one thing to take note
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: of this week. Keep an eye on the ownership. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: imagine it's going to be very, very low, but the
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Commander's probably able to get whatever they want.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Saints and other season's over. That's I guess.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: My main takeaway is man like the McLaurin thing, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you nailed the call the other week when he crushed,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm not taking away from it. Just I feel
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: like he's almost like the Nick Chubb of wide receiver,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Like he's he can you have a thirty point game?
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He needs it though, And it's like, is he he's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be like Tyreek last week? Is he really going
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to be needed at seventy two hundred?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we'll see. I mean last week was kind
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: of an anomaly though. I mean the scores were massive.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I mean it was like one of the highest scoring weeks.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I can remember, Like, do we think that happens again,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: It could definitely could happen when you're getting a guy
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: to me multiple touchdown offside a good quarterback in a dome.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: He's done it a couple of times this year. If
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: he goes out and gets two touchdowns, like, I feel
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: good that that at least has a chance to be be.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: On the winner.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree on that too.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Owned I mean, just.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Comes like fifteen K for basically just under for him.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: So it's like you can play him as a one
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: off too. It's like, I do you think he's better
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: with Daniels because two touchdown day really helps Daniels as well.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Plus Daniels might roam went in, et cetera. But again,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: it's whatever the Slate brings you that it almost feels
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: like the Josh Allen situation. I haven't seen it yet,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: but we're about to go there in a second, because
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: we're about to get to the Ravens with Lamar at
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: eighty three hundred and Lamar passed up on the MVP charts.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Now it's insane. He's having a better year than he
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: had last year, but because of some of these stupid
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: losses that they've had along the way and just the
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: position they've been put in bad defense. Obviously, Josh Allen's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just an absolute monster, so that makes sense, but it
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: is crazy, Yeah, better season than the last year, so
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, we can move on to this game. But
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: that's the one note on Jayden Daniels above, where he's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: seventy five hundred. Can we get to these expressive quarterbacks?
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and find out.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: That m VP stuffs such a joke.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: The fact that Josh Allen gets this massive boost and
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: the team, their team freaking lost, like they didn't win
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the football games. They went off statistically, I mean absolutely
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: goes off statistically, but they lost, they lost the game,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, like he climbs the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: charts like it's a some of these awards are just
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: so stupid, like so so dumb. But anyhow, that's a
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you know, not not important or relative, you know, not important.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: For this slate. Massive favorites here. People are gonna want
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: to be on Derrick Henry this week.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming we'll probably have a lot of running back
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: plays eighty three hundred. I mean, I guess the price
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: could potentially keep them in check here a little bit,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: and got the whole d Hember thing where he starts
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: rolling in December, and you know you're gonna hear that
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: all week long. It probably is hard to get the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: pass That's one thing we know for sure. Like in
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: these spots where a team is favored by so many points,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: like the passing game won't get much ownership at all.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: So like Lamar Jackson to Zay Flowers or Bateman or Andrews,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: probably all that is very low on this week because
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: everyone's gonna assume that the Giants have no chance. It
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: was just last week it didn't work out fantasy wise,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: but the Eagles, Oh, they're gonna blow them out. The
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: game's gonna be over by halftime. Against the Panthers was
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: not the case. Now again it didn't get their fantasy wise,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: but building teams based on a blowout I just think
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: is so stupid, especially in the NFL. So you're gonna
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: be able to get Lamar Jackson. I don't know if
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get there super early obviously in the week,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: but you're gonna get the Ravens passing attack at a
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: very low ownership. If anyone's going to the Ravens, it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: gonna be Derrick Henry and I don't want anything to
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: do with the Giants. I can already tell you that I.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Wonder what they will do with Henry because it his
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: first came in December. Forum people are going to talk
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: about that. It is an excellent matchup on the ground.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: People wanted Kamara against this team last week, and you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: wasn't a great week for him. That was more that
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: was injury plus matchup. But in this spot, I think
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it's something to talk about. And I love that call
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: by you, Like, if they're gonna win like this, someone's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: putting up the points and it's typically easy to figure
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: it out on the Ravens. I know that people don't
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: want to figure out who to pair Lamar with, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you can just pull the Djen call from last week
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and just play the quarterback naked and just move on,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: or play Dereck Henry. This reminds me a bit of
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: last week though, the Hurts Barkley stuff right, just at
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a bit different price tags, but they're at the exact
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: same price tag. But Barkley was nine K, but it
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: was the big fourteen points spread or third team points spread,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, and you were kind of picking between
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the two. So yeah, I don't know how I'll play
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it just yet, but I definitely have interest in this spot.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I think the Giants have been pretty horrible, and I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: think the Ravens just need another spot to beat up
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: on a team it's getting close to playoff time. Make
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: a case. All these factors and more so, I definitely
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: have interested in Lamar Jackson here at eighty three hundred
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Dereck Henry at the same if I play Lamar as
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: much as I just talked about playing the Naked I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: think that's what becomes interesting is when people struggle to
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: figure it out, like I can place a I'm a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: homer for sure, but I think the stats don't lie.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I think Zay is completely underrated for the league. Like
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: he can catch nine for one hundred in the first.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Half price, I mean that does at six K and
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: DK and seventy three on FanDuel, it's like bottom barrel price.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Can't remember who I was talking about earlier where I
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: said it was a CJ. Stroud, I mean, same thing.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: This is as cheap as a Flowers been six k
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: and seventy three really good price tag.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ravens are dead DFL without Lamar. I don't care
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: about the Henry stuff like Lamar is team. If I'm
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a Homer, you can say it, but it's like it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I think we're talking about the jump in the Josh
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Allen Odds. He's obviously very valuable to his team and
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: one of the candidates or most valuable player. We're saying,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: how the one game this week literally flips it on
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a loss. It's like it doesn't matter how many points
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: when they got.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: That talking point can be applied to just about every
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: good team in the NFL. I mean, if you lose
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: your starting cornerback, your season's probably over. There's not a
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: playoff contender type team that I can think of where
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh yeah, all right, the backups and they're
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: gonna still be just as good or close. I mean,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: you can make that argument for all NFL teams that
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: are good.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, another good team with a good
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: quarterback and a good matchup. Last night crushed was the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the Bengals, Right, Obviously, Jamar Chise had himself a game.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: We just talked about quarterback and running back at eighty
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: three hundred, How about a wide receiver at eighty four hundred,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, think if you're playing them, you're pairing them up.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: We saw it just again last night. It's the pretty
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: obvious set up here. But now maybe people move to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: t Higgins there's somebody else because they think he can't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: do it again, right, what's your thoughts on this Bengals
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Titans game match up? Here?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: They throw the ball a ton.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, in all situations, they're just chucking the ball,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: And I think there's something to take note of early
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: on in the week and we'll see where the ownership falls.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But they are throughout the number, it's like seventy percent.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a wild number. And I don't think
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: they right here, Yeah, I don't think they. I don't
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: think they're gonna stop, Like why why why stop? Like
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: their season is obviously over. Jamar Chase, you can tell
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: once to wreck up these stats. You can tell after
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: last night. I mean, he easily could have just not
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: gone into the end zone. They could have kicked the
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: field goal at the end of the game as time expired. Uh,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: he wants stats, he wants touchdowns. Fine, going back to him.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: I mean this could obviously be one of those spots where, uh,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: you know, it goes to T Higgins.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Instead.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: I mean people are week to week in the NFL
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: how they analyze things. T Higgins fully busted last night.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: They're gonna pep when people build their team, it's gonna
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: they're gonna build Chase over Higgins, and getting on Higgins
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: makes sense.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: We talked about Yosi Vash.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, if they're going to be passing this much
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: like you got to consider the thirty eight hundred fifty
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: six on fan duel Jesseki as well like Chase Joe
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Burrow with Chase Brown. I mean, a team that's passing
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: this much like you can go Burrow to Chase Brown,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: stack and nothing else, and you know Burrow, I could
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: pass a couple to Chase Brown, one to somebody else
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: and that's the stack that wins. So uh, it's a
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: team that you want to want to keep an eye
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: on for the rest of the season. If they're going
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: to continue to push the pace like this offensively in
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: regards to passing, like you just can't ignore that for
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the rest of the season. And they're playing a Titans team
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: where you can probably do whatever they want. Titans obviously
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: have nothing to play for, and it's just going to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: be like Pollard and Ridley most likely.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: On the other side, the price for Ridley is is
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: still really cheap.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I highlighted them both. Don't have to talk about it
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: too much. Obviously, it's a good it's a good spot
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: for either. I think you look at the grades and
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we just saw like did last night for example, it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just another spot Pollard coming off another good week. I
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: think he's fine here, so if you want to do that,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you can put him in. If you want to get
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: different with it, I guess it's probably going to be
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: to go to I don't know. Again, we'll see what
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: people do. It's early in the week, but feels like
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: more people would want to be on the passing attack
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: here when Chase Brown kind of has a good matchup
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: as well, and he's just getting a ton of volume. Still,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: he's up a thousand bucks from the chalk slate when
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: he was sixty two hundred, so you do got to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: consider that. But it's like that slate at sixty two
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: hundred he did horrible and put up nineteen like it
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: was no involvement pretty much, and he got nineteen points.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: It felt like it at least that he could have
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: had thirty plus. So seventy two hundred wouldn't scare me
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: away at all. They still have a very healthy twenty
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: six point team total as well.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Go ahead and REGARDSS and I clearly said any good
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: team in the NFL, the Browns are not classified as
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: a good team in the NFL. Yes, they've been better
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: with Jamis their backup, but they're not a good team.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: They started with a bad one too, so that's why
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: you know they've been in trouble for a while since that.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But Patriots at Cardinals is the next one up poop
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and we're getting to the afternoon.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Cardinal Cardinal games this season. I'd say disappointed for the
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: most part.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Fantasy was.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: I guess it's easy because I don't really like anything
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: on the Patriots side besides Hunter Henry.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I think he's fine. Cardinals.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I keep trying to make it work man, these stacks,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and it just hasn't worked at all. Trey McBride is
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: always fine. I mean we saw it at the end
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: of the last game. He almost fully sucked out again.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: We talked about this on the Sunday Show, Like he
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: just gets the work in these trailing game scripts and
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: he just goes to him, goes to him, goes to him,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: almost had a touch He had like three catches on
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the last drive, almost found a touchdown. Just it's so
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: valuable a guy like McBride to have. So I think
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: he's clear what is he six k and then seventy five?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Totally fine with that. The price on Marvin Harrison is
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: now down to fifty five and then sixty six on Fame.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, those are these are some cheap price tags for
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the Cardinals guys.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: But it's been tough though. Outside of McBride, this might
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: get popular.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. Like again, I usually at the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: start of the week when I think, oh, no one
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: wants to go back there. They killed everybody last week.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: People in the chat like Nick and even yourself saying
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: it me included, there's zero chance I go away from it,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: like I'm not playing all that McBride last week and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: then not playing it this week.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: So definitely playing Bride.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: I think he's clearly the best play in Connor as well.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Like McBride, you can just play as one off like
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: he can just play them in so many different ways.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: All the matchup. The matchup's good. I don't really like
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the Patriots stuff. You don't have to run it back
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: or figure it out. I don't understand still, I'm I've
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: been a guy that's on Hunter Henry all season and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even know why. I like, I think I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: just looked at the stats and the numbers and the dad.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I use the stone and I trust it all, and
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: it's been good to be for everything else, so I'll
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: take it. But I don't know why we keep playing
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: this guy, Like, what has he ever really done? It's
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: he gets you know.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Sometimes the talking point is he's Drake May's favorite target.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: That's that's what we all say.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: The guy like when next says, it's Kyler just substitute
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to Hunter Henry in there for me because I've been
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: playing his pass and I don't know why.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe this hasn't been bad. I mean, I guess it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a volume. Yeah, six nine six eight four.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Nine eight nine in terms of targets, so he's getting
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: like seven targets a game.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: What's his do you have his DK points on?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean nothing has nuked. Basically, it's all been
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: in check.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Fourteen and a half, nine point four twelve, two twelve
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: and a half, nine point five, seventeen thirteen.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: He just hasn't gone off. He gets a three middling, Yeah, middling,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: good cash play. Probably we'll see.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunter Henry sucks on in GVPS, but he's good
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: at cash. That's the off. Vandel sucks, but who crushes.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's the version of Hunter Henry over there. So yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: maybe that's why. But I mean, I'm not getting away
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: from this twenty six point total at home. Drake May
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: could push the pace like it's if you want to
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: go opposite side and try and figure it out, good luck.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying it's more for me. It's not
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: about going to Drake May. It's do I believe that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Drake May could get some rushes on the ground, some
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: big passes to a Pop Douglas or something like that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that gets it moving enough to get this game rolling
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to where we want to be at with it. And again,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: if it gets popular, you got four other games in
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the afternoon that you can late swap to. But Kyler, Harrison,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Michael Wilson, McBride, James Coping.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: The snacks get popular regardless of what happens this week.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I think people are just kind of over it at
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: this point. It just hasn't hit and I think people
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: are just kind of done with it, So I don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: think it ever is going to get quote unquote popular.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Right and then this is fine, but it's just man
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: good luck like figuring it out. You can just stack
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: with one guy on.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: But it's been the same story all season. They look
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: good all week long, and then Sunday afternoon they look
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: like absolute dog shit.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: He's fifty six hundred. It's also not as easy to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: hit when you go to like this next seay, we've
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: got Anthony Richards. I know it's the Broncos D but
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: like there's other quarterbacks we've already talked about at sixty one,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: we'll get to fifty nine later on. Like, there's definitely
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: other spots that you feel better about it, have condensed
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: offenses that you can stack and feel more comfortable with it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I don't want a cheap version of Patrick Mahomes figuring
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: it meaning and not how he plays at all, but
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: in figuring it out of what I need to get
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: right with it. So to me, it's not that interesting.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I like the other side with Kyler and just take
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: my chances. Next game up, Colts at the Broncos, really
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: good matchup for Bo Nicks. I mean, this is twenty
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: four point total at home. But you know, how do
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you see this one? Look at the look at the
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: defense he's up against her.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean could easily have his way. It does
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: seem like a really bad spot for the Colts. I
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: mean going to Denver's always difficult. Denver's actually, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: pretty good this year, So I could potentially have some
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: interest in the Broncos stuff, the passing stuff. I'm not
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: messing with these running backs, but the passing stuff for sure.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Bow next to Sutton, I mean they have a really
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: good connection. Sutton's been great all season a long this
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Vley or Valet, however he pronounce it.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: He's been pretty good getting some looks.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: It's probably just those two though, to be honest, like,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: you know, Bo Nicks to one of those two, and
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily need a run back either. I mean,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: this Colts offense is not very fun. So it's Nicks
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: to Sutton or Vele single stacks and probably it for.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Me, Yeah, that would be the thing, just you know,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: thinking about it is tough. But the if you don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: like stacking with Anthony Anthony Richardson, you usually just play
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: him naked or maybe pair him with one guy. Whoever
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that one guy is who your runback could be. But
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I would certainly be fine is going Nick Sutton and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: move on. Ye that's how I feel about. It's a
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: good spot. They still are running Javante, but like you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: McLoughlin's been mixed in estimate, has been some games. They
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: are comfortable and Sean Payton is willing to move these
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: guys around and just make it trickier. On the defense.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: You can get lucky and try and pinpoint the spot.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I do note that sometimes you see like automatic is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Nix and Sutton, but then forget looking at the stone
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: that like, it's just as good a matchup on the ground.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: It's just also just like when we're figuring out offenses
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and how condensed they are, Well, this running back room
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: is not very They'll use anyone and everyone at random times.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So now I don't I don't like these things. Again,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: to each your own. I'm not trying to figure out
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Drake May. There's twenty four quarterbacks on the slate. Like,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: if it's the right one then that's awesome, and same
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: for this. Richardson can be a fantasy points monster. But
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: if Sutton has a big game, it's usually going to
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: be attached to Bo Nicks. And it's not like Nicks
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: is seventy five hundred, he's sixty three. He's only costing
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: you five hundred dollars more. If Sutton has the game,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you need, just have him with Knicks, is the way
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I play. Again, it doesn't mean it's right, just how
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I would look at it. So yeah, I'm with you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: on this one, Hoop and the other side, it's another
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: good luck situation between all the dudes that they have
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: at the wide receiver room. Who's it going to be?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be anybody if you wanted
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to do it. The way to go would almost be
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to put richardson with one of them and then run
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it back with Sutton and then that way at least
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you're comboing up the game. But again, I just think
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: it gets really tricky. And there's some good games, including
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: this one coming up next. So here we go. You
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: won a million maker on a Lions Seahawks over stack, right,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and now you won last week with a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Bills game. So do you just pop the Bills and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the Lions together? Like everybody? I forgot about this game
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: being on the slate with the first look. So everything
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: we've talked about, this is where the popularity rises, right.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It's just you could play anybody in this game.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean big total fifty five, clearly the biggest
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: of the week, close close spread, Lions favor by.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: One and a half or two. Problem with the game,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Seck here is price tags.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Obviously, it's going to be hard to get to get
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of these pieces in there. You know, both quarterbacks,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I think clearly in the conversation, I think the running
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: backs are a spot to potentially get a little bit
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: different here. I mean, after what Josh Allen just did,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: no one's going to want to be on James Cook.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: You know the situation with the Lions, I mean they're
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: at kind of all time high price tags and they
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: split between Gibbs and Montgomery. I mean they both had
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: big games. But I think that's the one spot in
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: this game that you can look to get a little
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: bit different. If you're trying to get a little bit different.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I mean both teams are probably at their I mean
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: bills for sure, at their best when they're passing the ball.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: So that's one thing that that stands out. The pass catchers,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I think on both sides going to be you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: somewhat popular. I mean, people are fine playing Josh Allen
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: without a pass catcher. But the one thing that I
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: noticed last week that definitely kind of stands out is
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: starting to take some give Mariy Cooper some deeper looks
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: down the field, and it hasn't really hit this year,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: but at some point, like they're going to match up
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: and they're going to connect, and Amari Cooper has an
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: all time low price tag another guy fifty three hundred
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: and then fifty nine on FanDuel, Like Marie Cooper stands
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: out early in the week, and I hope it doesn't
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: get like steamed up or a lot of people get
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: on it, because that's one play in this game that
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: definitely stands out. We're gonna have to see on Kinkaid.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: You know, if he's out, it makes I guess it
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: makes the stack stuff a little potentially easier, but he
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: hasn't used Knox really at all, so it's it's difficult.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: But the one the plays that the one play that
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: definitely stands out to me on the bill side early
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: on in the week is Marii Cooper. And then you
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: know James Cook is going to be very very low owned.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: That I'd imagine because people are going to want to
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: be on the Allan and stuff.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: With the with the Lions.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: You know, Monra, if this is a back and forth
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: sort of game like either Monros Saint Brown or Jamison
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Williams very likely goes off the price tag actually on
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: a Monra is not bad. Seventy six hundred on DK
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: is I mean, he's clearly despectful, right, very disrespectful price tage.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It might be justin Jefferson s for a guy that
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: can catch like twelve balls and get the yardage in
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the touch you'd have twelve for one and two touchdowns
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: and would not surprise me. So yeah, I thought it
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: was pretty low.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: That's definitely a bad price tag. Yeah, too low a
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: price tag.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: So I guess maybe it's not as hard to load
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: up on this game now. Looking at this, I mean
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the neither pass catcher for the Bills, Shakir or Cooper's expensive,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: A Monra Saint Brown is underpriced, Jamison Williams is mid
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: range price. And then you know the story with Laporta
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: hasn't been a good year, so he's super cheap as well,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: but the one thing that definitely stands out to me.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Like I said, the running backs are probably the lowest
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: owned part of this game. Cooper stands out to me though,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and Detroit's defense a little beat up right now. I
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: think Cooper catches a bomb, so that'd be the initial
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: early What is this Tuesday afternoon call, Mariy Cooper stands out?
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Is definitely solid play for me.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: You're crazy, You're cuckoo over there. You like the James
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Cook and the and the Amari Cooper, the double Coo,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: so maybe that's what you like. I will say I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: love the Cooper call early and again it's Tuesday takes.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But I would say, for sure the secondary stack that
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: has me interested, especially with this a monro Price tag
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: where I think he definitely gets steam at that cover.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I love Gibbs. Why would you not try and keep
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen off the field, the guy that can throw
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: all these touchdowns and run them all in and do it.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it's gonna work, But what do you
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: always say about Campbell's That's exactly what they're gonna do anyway,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: and you know it. When is Gibbs the best in
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: like an electric type atmosphere a game like they could go,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: even if it's lower scoring, the back and forth of
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: it all I could see happening. So I really like
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Gibbs and if you're gonna get him at lower ownership
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: because people are worried about the split and most people
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: landing with that kind of money in this game are
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be more comfortable spending the extra hundred and getting
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: a Monra at wide receiver. I'll have Golf Gibbs stacks.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I'll have goff A Monro stacks and mixing them up.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: But I think a secondary stack in this game if
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: you're not going to commit to it, and some would
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: be Gibbs and Cooper for me. At those price eggs
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Cooper can have a big day and not need Josh
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Allen and Golf. I mean, then Gibbs can have a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: big day and be a lot of what happens for
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Detroit over there. So I kind of like that as well.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But definitely gonna be a popular game. The chat's asking you, boy,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Timmy Patrick.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Always and yeah, what a forty three dust sucky coming
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: off a two touchdown game.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, people might be.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: On him a little bit more than usual, but man,
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: he just finds a way to get open seven targets,
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: six catches, forty three yards, the two touchdowns cheap way
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: to get exposure to the game.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Don't hate it.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll shut up to my guy Gerald here, I
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: was supporting and appreciate you. I'll answer you know, just
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: my thoughts on this A couple notes. One is if
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you're doing that, I think still is something to be said.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I'll leave it up while I talk about it about
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: being careful with it in the sense of like my example,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I think Gibbs and Cooper you can get away with
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: because of it. Whether it hits or busts. It could
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: be a spot that lesser on a Gibbs for example,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: but you've got the right pieces of the game. But
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: typically if people are trying to just put a one
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: off in, you're if it ends up going the way
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it's going, like if Jamison Williams has a big day,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that could be what sets off the entire game stack,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: and then you just get crushed and passed and you
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: have one right play, but you have you're missing it
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: to the game stacks that just are dominating you. So
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I tend to prefer to get in on these games
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: or when I get out on them. It's not just
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: making a rule and getting a guy and a piece
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: on these of either team. It's more of a very
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: particular about how I do it, and I think Gibbs
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: and Cooper would be the way for me. I don't
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: know who if you have any thoughts on the game
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: stacking side of things, but over stacks are out there
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: and they exist, and if a game goes off, you
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: typically will see that takeover.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I pretty much agree with what you what
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: you laid out there.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, two more games to go in
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: interesting game. The last one is the Steelers at the Eagles.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: We just got the Pickens news earlier, but just to note,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Buccaneers at Chargers up first, and this could be interesting.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: It's not gonna have the total of the Bills Lions,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: but it feels like it could have the back and forth, right,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: you could see it between a Herbert Mayfield type of matchup.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this one?
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: So, I mean the one thing whenever I see the
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: see the box is that that d plus on the
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: pass defense that are bad against the pass. The Chargers
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: without Dobbins willing to pass like a little bit more uh.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: And then the one thing I definitely want to see
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: is if Lad mcconkeye is going to be inter out,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: because he sounded pretty close last week knee shoulder. I'm
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: assuming he's back this week. I hope that's the case
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: because I do want to play some of the Charger
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: stuff here for multiple reasons.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: I like the matchup, and I like the fact that
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I have runbacks on the other side, and like Kate
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Out and Mike Evans. And you know, even if by
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Irving is back, how serious was his injury?
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Is there any other news.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Anything else pop up on it?
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: So it's back just tightened up. I imagine that he'll
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: be back as well, so direct runbacks. I don't even
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: hate the Baker stuff, like it should be relatively low on,
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: like stacking the bucks today. So this is a game
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: that I think could be pretty sneaky, to be honest
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: with you. The total as of now is sitting at
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: forty six.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: And a half.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I got some pretty respectable number and I feel good
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: about a lot of pieces here. So yeah, I'll be
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: in on this game. I imagine when it's all sitting
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: done on Sunday.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Condensed offenses typically isn't there something to what's the what's
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the situation with Disley? That's the other one I was
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: thinking of. I thought I saw.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: Something officially question. Yeah, he's gonna be out.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I wish they had my boy freaking Parham
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: still there.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: You know, they got what's the dude they got besides
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Stone Smarter, who's on here, they also have what's the name.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Tucker fisk Fisker.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: The older you get in.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Her Stone Smart twenty six hundred tight end three for
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: fifty four against Casey, I'm imagining at twenty six hundred,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: he's going to be the cheap go to tight end
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: this week.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Take a dart on Stone Smart might be Stone dumb,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: but at almost the Stone minimum. Who knows it's twenty
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: six hundred, he's very close to it. So Kate Aughton
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: could be a bounce back spot after last week just horrible.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Game needed him in a couple of places where I thought,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: instead of Boers, you know, flip it to the other
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: side and do that. So it's it's just the way
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: it goes. But yeah, and Nick brought up a good
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: point too. That's why I said I'd be fine just
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: having the if I'm going the way against what with
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Gerald was saying. I was saying, like, I don't. If
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I want one to two pieces, I want them in
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: a very particular way, not just throwing a Jamison Williams
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: in there, because I think he's a guy for example,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: that would make the game go off and be more
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: involved in a game stack where then you're one off
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: doesn't really help you or your two pieces. I would
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: want to set up for the game failing so playing
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: some of the defenses or just the running back or
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: something like my Gibbs Cooper stack. But I do think
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: this Bucks Chargers game is interesting, so we'll definitely have
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: love here. Whop. It's more of just condensed offenses and
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the fact that it could pop off. It's not the
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: biggest total, depending on how the afternoon shapes up. If
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: everyone's in line on that other game with the big total,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: this is probably the one I like best after it, right,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I think we were just whatever on the Broncos the Cardinals.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have some because what we talked about,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: But I would like this game next up, and I
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: think others will too.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like it, Yeah, I like it. We'll see
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: as the week goes on.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I mean a lot depends on, like Lab McConkie, whether
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: or not he's in or out, Like that's pretty big news.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: No, you already know we already have a cheap tight
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: end in smart so we got to see as it
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: goes on. But I'm with you initially this one looks
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: pretty nice.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Ched who was this posted it? Yeah? AJ has been
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: winding about knocking the OHS debo. Deebo posted after the game?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Are they are they off this week? Or what's their
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: game this week?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Thursday night?
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Thursday night. I'll I'll check that out. I'll be
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: in Nashville actually for that one, so I won't be
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: on the show that day, but you guys will have
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: it covered. But just to note that Demo went on
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Twitter X whatever you gonna call it, and he said,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not injured. I'm just they're just not getting me
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the ball. It's like he's literally going public with it
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: beyond just mentioned in the locker room and whatnot. So yeah,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: see how the squeaky wheel stuff goes But Aj Brown
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: eight thousand, Jalen Hurts eight thousand, Barkley eighty six hundred.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: It's a much closer spread than what we saw last week.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: It's not the Carolina Panthers. They're back at home. What
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: do you think of this last game on the slate?
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Who we got Steelers at the Eagles.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: The main thing is the squeaky narrative, squeaky wheel narrative
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: with AJ Brown kind of calling out the which is ironic.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: They've won nine games in a row, Like, just keep
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: your mouth fucking shut like your team. That's it a.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Barkley too, hey, because Barker got to cut you off.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: But Barkley's what we talked about. He'll he'll take himself
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: out of the doesn't need to go back in. Wants
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: to win.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: This is interesting hate shit like that.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Like if you're getting your ass kicked out there and
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: it's a disappointing season, okay, sure you make the comment whatever.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I still don't think you should ever make the comment
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: like that. But you've won nine you're nine games in
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: a row, you're what eleven and two or ten and two,
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell it is, and you're talking about the
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: inefficiency of the passing offense, like get the fuck out
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: of here.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: But you know that could lead to some additional targets.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I suspect it does.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: They need Aj Brown to be successful, So I kinda
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: will be playing into.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: This a little bit, I imagine like I've been playing it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of why I'm gonna stick with it.
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was unknown last week, it's probably unowned
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: again this week. And like you said, like you were
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: pointing out there, if you want to beat the Steelers,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: it's through the air, not on the ground.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: So a lot does kind of go into it, but
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be on it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: Another thing, DeVonta Smith fifty five hundred, it was like
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: upper six early on in the year fifty.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Eight last week and had an okay game.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, yeah, coming back from the injury. So
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm interested there. You got a cheap tight end.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I think Otter's still out, so I do the one
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: thing though, I think this is.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: A bad spot for the Steelers. I think that the
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Eagles win this game pretty easily. Obviously, I'm hoping that's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: not the case because I want the Lions to get
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: the number one seed.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: But if you're looking for runbacks, I guess Calvin Austen,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Van Jefferson Friar may have cheap runbacks, which make this
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: a little bit easier if you do want to run
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: it back, if you are playing the hurt stuff.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: This is actually funny and interesting. We found this out
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: last week too. Is Barkley his agent built into the
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: contract so there's none of these touchdown bonuses attached to
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: any of them and said this. He's like, it's fine,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I'm here for the midchion and we're going to win.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: But that's one reason he doesn't have to bitch. But
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: it was more like a character on the sideline. I
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: don't think he even knew there was a camera on
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: him that game. When he's like, don't you want to
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: go back in and get the record, and he's like, no, no, no,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: they're good man, even man, we got this. Man. Let's
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: just win the game and stay healthy. The goal is
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to win the super Bowl, and the chats on it.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I don't need to keep dragging it on. Like Nick says,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: their divas all by themselves. But it's like all about themselves,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: these wide receivers. Like it's like DFS, what if you
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: like your stats aren't there, You're you're still winning, like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: it's you're treading water in this case, your team's actually winning.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But what if you're the champion hero in the Super Bowl,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Like I'll lose all season if I win the live
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: final of someone who gives a shit two million in
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the Mega Ultimate at the end of December, nothing will
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: matter in all the previous weeks. What if you're the
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: hero in the super Bowl game, you won't give a
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: shit about Week fourteen when they didn't get you the
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: ball enough. As you beat the Panthers and pulled off
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: a win, you almost got embarrassed, actually, so just be
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: happy you won the game. So I think that's kind
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: of how I would look at it, But don't know.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And the tricky for me, hoop is I don't have
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: a lot to talk about here. We'll wait on the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Pickens news. You know Calvin Austen played the same role Friarmouth,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: you know Harris, these guys. But I guess my takeaway
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: is I think I like where was it at here early.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I like Lamar more than I like playing jail Wards.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: I think little Lamarstaf's going to be very low owned.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: But anytime people see that fifteen number minus fifteen, they
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: don't want the pawer attack. They want the running back.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: And you have a clear running back here in Derrick Henry.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: So I'm with you on the Lamar stuff. It's gonna
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: be low owned. I like that, but I mean I
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: do like the Hurt stuff as well, but I like
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: thet you can play both. I mean, if you're building
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of teams, you can definitely play them both.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I do like Lamar stuff. I like
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: them as.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Well, meaning like one or the other. I don't want
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to play them both. But the good news it's not
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: a Barkley Hurts situation. It's not the same price tag.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And it's also it is it is usually one or
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the other. It's not, you know, it's not often that
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: they're splitting each other up. It's a Lamar game or
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a Henry game, and I kind of like that. And
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: the spot's so good, and it is a NFC team
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: as well. I know, Lamar that just broke up again
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: because they lost to the Eagles, right, but the only
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: team to beat them before was the Giants with Daniel Jones.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: They don't have him anymore, so it's a fifteen point favorites.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna beat up on them. But we
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: like Lamar in those games, so I don't have anything else.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts or anything else now
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: that you've seen sort of the slate as a whole
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: that stands out. I mean you mentioned a lot about
• 53:57
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• 53:59
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• 54:01
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• 54:26
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• 54:28
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