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Lured To His Death: The Murder Of Seath Tyler Jackson · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine a group of high schoolers sitting around a backyard
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  Speaker 1: fire pit. You know, they are laughing, passing around, drinks,
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  Speaker 1: maybe smoking.
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  Speaker 2: Right, it looks like the ultimate scene of careless teenage freedom,
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  Speaker 2: the kind of Friday night you probably remember from your
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  Speaker 2: own youth exactly.
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  Speaker 1: But what you cannot see, and honestly, what no one
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  Speaker 1: in their right mind would ever want to believe, is
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  Speaker 1: what is actively burning inside that fire.
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  Speaker 2: It's well, it is the absolute definition of a psychological
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  Speaker 2: and moral abyss. Yeah, because when you look at that scene,
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  Speaker 2: the laughing, the fire, the socializing, you're looking at individuals
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  Speaker 2: who are legally in developmentally just children, right, They're kids, right,
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  Speaker 2: yet they're in the midst of committing acts of depravity
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  Speaker 2: that would shock even the most seasoned, hardened homicide detective.
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  Speaker 2: It just completely forces us to reevaluate what we think
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  Speaker 2: we know about the.
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  Speaker 1: Adolescent mind and the human capacity for cruelty. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the deep dive. I am well. I'm so glad you
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  Speaker 1: are here with us today because the material we are
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  Speaker 1: going through is going to ask a lot of you.
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  Speaker 2: It is extremely heavy.
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  Speaker 1: It's heavy, it's dark, but it is incredibly important. We
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  Speaker 1: are pulling from an intensely detailed and frankly harrowing documentary
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  Speaker 1: transcript from the True Crime channel Truly Criminal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, regarding the two nails and eleven murder of a
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  Speaker 2: fifteen year old boy named Seeth Tyler Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: But our mission today is not just to recount a
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  Speaker 1: true crime timeline. You know, we aren't just reading off
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  Speaker 1: a list of events. We want to understand the machinery
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  Speaker 1: behind this. How does a normal, albeit messy high school
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  Speaker 1: breakup end in a premeditated torture and murder plot orchestrated
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  Speaker 1: entirely by peers?
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  Speaker 2: And that right there is the crucial framework for our
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  Speaker 2: discussion today. This isn't just crime. This is a profound
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  Speaker 2: psychological study of group dynamics, manipulation, and the tragic consequences
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  Speaker 2: of unchecked digital vitriol, you know, just spilling out into
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  Speaker 2: the real physical world.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this by starting with the setting, because
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  Speaker 1: the geographic and social background of this case feels like
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  Speaker 1: a deliberate, almost cinematic contrast to the crime itself. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we are in Summerfield in Marion County, Florida. If you
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  Speaker 1: aren't familiar with that, this is not like an inner
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  Speaker 1: city landscape with a history of gang violence. Summerfield is
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  Speaker 1: home to just under thirty four thousand residents. It is sprawling.
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  Speaker 1: You have sweeping country estates, massive equestrian properties, golf courses,
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  Speaker 1: scenic lakes.
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  Speaker 2: It is genuinely idyllic. It's the kind of place heavily
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  Speaker 2: marketed to retirees looking for quiet, or to young families
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  Speaker 2: looking for a safe harbor away from the anxieties of
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  Speaker 2: the city. Right the violent crime rate there is exceptionally low,
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  Speaker 2: and that environment is important to note because it lulls
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  Speaker 2: you into a sense of absolute security. When you live
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  Speaker 2: in a place like Summerfield, your threat assessment radar is
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  Speaker 2: naturally dialed way down.
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  Speaker 1: You just do not expect the neighborhood kids to be
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  Speaker 1: harboring murderous intents exactly. And right in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: this peaceful community is fifteen year old Seth Jackson. By
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  Speaker 1: all accounts, Seth was just a really great Magnette kid.
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  Speaker 1: He was highly outgoing, really funny, the kind of kid
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  Speaker 1: who could make anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Laugh, and very active.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he loved renting dirt bikes, he loved fishing in
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  Speaker 1: the local lakes, and he had this big, ambitious dream
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  Speaker 1: when he got old enough, he was going to be
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  Speaker 1: a UFC fighter.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: He was tough, but deeply loved. He had two older brothers,
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  Speaker 1: and he was incredibly close with his mom Sonya. They
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  Speaker 1: were a very tight knit family unit.
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  Speaker 2: He was a typical fifteen year old boy, full of
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  Speaker 2: energy and impulsivity. And that normalcy is what makes the
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  Speaker 2: inciting incident of this entire tragedy so relatable yet so
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  Speaker 2: dangerously volatile, because the catalyst here isn't a drug deal
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  Speaker 2: gone wrong, right. It begins with a breakup.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Seeth had been dating a fifteen year old girl
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  Speaker 1: named Amber Wright. They had been together for about three months. Now.
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  Speaker 1: For anyone listening, think back to being fifteen. Three months
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  Speaker 1: at that age does not feel like a quarter of
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  Speaker 1: a year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, it feels like a lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: It is an eternity of emotional investment. And this was
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  Speaker 1: not an amicable, clean break. It was a highly volatile, messy,
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  Speaker 1: on again, off again situation that finally ruptured permanently over
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  Speaker 1: some very serious accusations.
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  Speaker 2: The volatility really stemmed from Seith suspecting that Amber was
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  Speaker 2: cheating on him, specifically with an eighteen year old named
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  Speaker 2: Michael Bargo Junior.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a big age gap in high school, huge gap.
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  Speaker 2: And it's clear from the timeline that this breakup quickly
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  Speaker 2: devolved from private heartbreak into public character assassination. Amber didn't
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  Speaker 2: just walk away. She began telling people that Seith had
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  Speaker 2: been physically abusive to her, and it escalated, right did
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  Speaker 2: She claimed that he had given her a sexually transmitted disease,
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  Speaker 2: a claim, by the way, that she was actually medically
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  Speaker 2: tested for, and it came back entirely negative.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth didn't matter at that point because the
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  Speaker 1: damage was already out there. It caused this massive fracture
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  Speaker 1: in their social circle. Amber complained that she lost all
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  Speaker 1: of her mutual friends, that people sided with Seith. Right,
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  Speaker 1: And I want a pause here to really look at
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  Speaker 1: what adolescence has become, especially around twenty eleven, when social
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  Speaker 1: media was truly sinking its teeth into teenage dynamics. I
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  Speaker 1: look at this burkup and it is essentially a digital colisseum.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: Before social media, if you went through a bad breakup,
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  Speaker 1: you went home, you cried, and maybe you awkwardly avoided
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  Speaker 1: the person in the hallway. The humiliation was localized. But
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  Speaker 1: today teenagers are forced to perform their heartbreak and their
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  Speaker 1: rage for a massive audience of peers. So I have
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  Speaker 1: to ask you, is the intensity of teenage emotion actually
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  Speaker 1: changing or is the audience just making the stakes feel higher.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what's fascinating here is that the underlying human emotions,
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  Speaker 2: the jealousy, the betrayal, those are entirely timeless, but the
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  Speaker 2: digital stage acts as a massive accelerant. Public platforms strip
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  Speaker 2: away all nuance. When you are performing your grievance on
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  Speaker 2: a Facebook wall for literally all of your classmates to see,
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  Speaker 2: you cannot back down.
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  Speaker 1: You'd lose face exactly.
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  Speaker 2: You can't show vulnerability without feeling like you are losing
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  Speaker 2: your status. The platform actually forces these kids to double
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  Speaker 2: down on their anger. It rewards extreme statements with dope,
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  Speaker 2: mean hits like comments and the tension.
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  Speaker 1: Which perfectly describes the Facebook feud that erupted between Seth
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  Speaker 1: and Amber. They were broadcasting their hatred. Seeth posted and
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  Speaker 1: I'm quoting here, I said I was done with you
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  Speaker 1: and you should be done with me, and Amber fired back.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a real man to accept the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he got broke up with and the.
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  Speaker 2: Whole school is watching this play out.
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  Speaker 1: In real time, Chi me in taking sides.
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  Speaker 2: It creates an environment where hostility is completely normalized. The
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  Speaker 2: language of violence becomes the default setting, and crucially, the
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  Speaker 2: digital space desensitizes them. You don't see facial expressions, You
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  Speaker 2: just see a digital avatar you're trying to defeat. It
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  Speaker 2: strips away empathy, and.
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  Speaker 1: This digital hostility takes a terrifying leap into the real
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  Speaker 1: world with the introduction of eighteen year old Michael Bargo Junior.
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  Speaker 1: This is the older guy. See if suspected Amber was
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  Speaker 1: cheating with And sure enough, Michael and Amber are essentially
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  Speaker 1: a couple now, and.
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  Speaker 2: Michael begins to develop this burning, obsessive hatred.
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  Speaker 1: For Seef, fueled by Amber stories entirely fueled by Amber.
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  Speaker 2: She's feeding him stories about the abuse, the disease ruining
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  Speaker 2: her socialize, and Michael takes on the role of the
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  Speaker 2: vengeful protector. He views himself as the older, tougher guy
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  Speaker 2: who needs to step in.
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  Speaker 1: It crossed the line into a legitimate physical threat when
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  Speaker 1: Michael Bargo actually showed up at Seeth's home. Seth's mother
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  Speaker 1: Sonia happened to be there and overheard Michael aggressively confronting
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  Speaker 1: her fifteen year old son. Michael looked Seith face to
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  Speaker 1: face and told him, I have a bullet with your
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  Speaker 1: name on it.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And that is the exact moment the digital colisseum
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  Speaker 2: spills over its gates. That is a premeditated threat of
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  Speaker 2: lethal violence delivered by an adult to a child at
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  Speaker 2: his own home. It sets a baseline of physical danger.
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  Speaker 1: But a threat like that doesn't escalate into a coordinated
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  Speaker 1: murder without a.
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  Speaker 2: Place to grow, right, it needs an incubator.
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  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the physical setting where this entire
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  Speaker 1: crime was plotted. They called it the lair. It is
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  Speaker 1: a rundown trailer being rented by an eighteen year old
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  Speaker 1: girl named Charlie Easkly. And when I look at the descriptions,
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  Speaker 1: it is bleef. I was thinking about it like a
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  Speaker 1: Lord of the Fly situation, but with a roof.
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  Speaker 2: Let me refine that analogy based on what we said
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  Speaker 2: about the digital stage. It isn't just an island. It
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  Speaker 2: is a pressure cooker without a release valve.
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  Speaker 1: A pressure cooker. Okay, let's look at the roster of
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  Speaker 1: people in this trailer. You have Charlie Airily, who is
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and pregnant. You have Michael Bargo Junior, the eighteen
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  Speaker 1: year old who threatens Seeth. You have sixteen year old
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Hooper, who is Amber's older brother and tragically a
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  Speaker 1: former close friend of Seeth's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that part is so sad.
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  Speaker 1: And you have twenty year old Justin Soto who goes
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  Speaker 1: by Roach. Plus Amber at fifteen is constantly over there.
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  Speaker 2: When you look at that roster, you have legally adult
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  Speaker 2: individuals mixed with highly impressionable teenagers existing in a space
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  Speaker 2: completely devoid of adult supervision or societal norms, no parents,
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  Speaker 2: no rules, just drinking alcohol, doing drugs, and feeding off
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  Speaker 2: of each other's escalating negativity. That is your pressure cooker.
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  Speaker 2: The adult who walks in and says enough, you guys
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  Speaker 2: are taking this too far has been removed.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, I have to stop you there, because when we
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  Speaker 1: say lack of parental supervision, it almost sounds like an excuse,
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  Speaker 1: right right, Like I know plenty of teenagers who throw
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  Speaker 1: parties without parents. I was in angry youth once upon
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  Speaker 1: a time, but I never lured someone to a trailer
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  Speaker 1: to murder them. What is the actual psychological catalyst here?
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  Speaker 2: That is exactly the right pushback It isn't just the
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  Speaker 2: absence of rules. It is the presence of a specific
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  Speaker 2: psychological mechanism known as group polarization, combined with the diffusion
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  Speaker 2: of responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: Break that down for me, how does that work.
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  Speaker 2: Group polarization occurs when you take a group of isolated
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  Speaker 2: people who share specific grievance, in this case, amber's hatred
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  Speaker 2: for seet, and you put them in an echo chamber
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  Speaker 2: without any dissenting voices. Okay, in normal society, if you
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  Speaker 2: say I want to kill that guy, someone says, WHOA
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  Speaker 2: calm down. But in that trailer there is no dissenting voice.
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  Speaker 2: The group mind agrees. The mechanism means a group will
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  Speaker 2: inevitably make a decision far more extreme than any single
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  Speaker 2: inn individual would make.
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  Speaker 1: So they are effectively radicalizing each other over high school
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  Speaker 1: gossip exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And then you add the diffusion of responsibility. With five
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  Speaker 2: people involved, no single person feels the full way of
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  Speaker 2: the moral burden. The guilt is divided by.
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  Speaker 1: Five, and that plan goes into devastating motion on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: April seventeenth, twenty eleven. The setup of this trap prays
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  Speaker 1: on the most basic teenage vulnerabilities. Seith had been texting
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  Speaker 1: his mom Sonia, asking for a ride home. She says
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  Speaker 1: it'll be about ten minutes, and suddenly Seeth gets completely angry.
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  Speaker 1: He texts never mind, and communication abruptly stops.
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  Speaker 2: That abrupt shift indicates Seat's attention was hijacked by a
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  Speaker 2: high stressed stimulus. Amber. She had begun reaching out with
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  Speaker 2: highly manipulative text messages.
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  Speaker 1: When you read the transcripts, it is a masterclass in
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  Speaker 1: exploiting vulnerability. Amber texts him I just want me and
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  Speaker 1: you back. She plays on his emotions, suggesting she still
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  Speaker 1: loves him. She instructs him to come over to Charlie's
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  Speaker 1: trailer to talk, but adds this highly specific caveat. She
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  Speaker 1: tells him, don't tell anybody what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is tactically isolating her target. If we connect
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  Speaker 2: this to the bigger picture, the most dangerous tracks never
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  Speaker 2: look like traps. They look like a safe arbor. They
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  Speaker 2: rely on exploiting the victim's hope. She knew the promise
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  Speaker 2: of ending the public feud would override his logical defense mechanisms.
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  Speaker 1: But the incredible thing is that Seet's intuition actually was firing.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't walking in totally blind. He texts Amber back
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  Speaker 1: and says, Amber, if you have me jumped, I will
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  Speaker 1: never give you the time of day. So if I
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  Speaker 1: get jumped, say goodbye. He literally predicts exactly what is
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  Speaker 1: waiting for him, and.
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  Speaker 2: Amber replies swearing she isn't setting him up, promising she
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  Speaker 2: could never do that.
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  Speaker 1: It is agonizing. He even spoke to a friend, Brittany,
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  Speaker 1: who explicitly warned him not to go, but the emotional
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  Speaker 1: pull was stronger than the biological fear. Think about being fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: How many times did you ignore a glaring red flag
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  Speaker 1: just because you wanted to believe the best about someone
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  Speaker 1: you had feelings for.
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  Speaker 2: She weaponized his humanity against him, and she did it
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  Speaker 2: with complete awareness of what awaited him.
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  Speaker 1: Here is where it gets really interesting, and by interesting,
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  Speaker 1: I mean unimaginably dark, because the facade drops the absolute
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  Speaker 1: second Seeth arrives.
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  Speaker 2: The execution of the plan was instantaneous. It completely negates
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  Speaker 2: any argument of a spontaneous fight. They'd rehearse this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's walk through it. Seeth arrives, he knocks Charlie eelib
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  Speaker 1: Palmley lets him in. Seith sits down in a chair,
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  Speaker 1: accepting Amber, and almost immediately, Kyle Hooper and Justin Soto
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  Speaker 1: ambush him. They violently strike Seeth over the head with
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  Speaker 1: pieces of wood, possibly an axe handle.
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  Speaker 2: The blunt force trauma was a tactical choice to incapacitate
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  Speaker 2: him instantly, but Seith, relying on adrenaline and that UFC
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  Speaker 2: fighter spirit, doesn't submit. He fights back furiously.
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  Speaker 1: He really fights, And that is when Michael Bargo steps
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  Speaker 1: out of a bedroom holding a point two to two
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  Speaker 1: caliber revolver and he shoots Seeth. But Seith manages to
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  Speaker 1: break free. He scrambles outside, making a run for it.
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  Speaker 1: He almost makes it to the road.
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  Speaker 2: If he makes to the road, he likely lives. But
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  Speaker 2: Justin Soto tackles him in the yard and Michael Bargo
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  Speaker 2: catches up and shoots Heeth again.
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  Speaker 1: What happens next elevates this from a tragic act of
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  Speaker 1: violence to sheer depravity. They drag this wounded boy back
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  Speaker 1: inside and throw him into a bathtub.
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  Speaker 2: The level of calculated cruelty is staggering. While Seeth is
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  Speaker 2: in the tub, Michael makes a calculated decision to prevent
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  Speaker 2: dental identification. He physically removes Seethe's teeth, then to fit
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  Speaker 2: his body into a sleeping bag. They deliberately break his kneecaps.
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  Speaker 1: And as they are doing this, I really want to
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  Speaker 1: emphasize the gravity here, they realize Seeth is still alive
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  Speaker 1: after being beaten, shot, having his teeth removed and knees broken,
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  Speaker 1: he is conscious, so Michael Bargo shoots him again. He
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  Speaker 1: took at least four bullets.
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  Speaker 2: Once deceased, they hog tie him, force him into the
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  Speaker 2: sleeping bag, and burn him in a fire pit in
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  Speaker 2: the backyard.
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  Speaker 1: I have to push back hard here on the peer
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  Speaker 1: pressure narrative. You can blame peer pressure for underage drinking,
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  Speaker 1: but breaking kneecaps and throwing a body into a fire
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  Speaker 1: pit that requires a fundamental absence of human empathy. That
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  Speaker 1: is a shared psychopathy.
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  Speaker 2: I completely agree peer pressure implies a reluctance. There was
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  Speaker 2: no reluctance in that trailer. Amber even asked Michael beforehand
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  Speaker 2: if it was time to light the fire. She knew
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  Speaker 2: the endgame.
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  Speaker 1: And after they set this boy on fire, they don't panic.
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  Speaker 1: They drag chairs outside and spend the entire night drinking,
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  Speaker 1: smoking and laughing as the fire burns.
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  Speaker 2: A fire like that requires sustained effort to keep it
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  Speaker 2: hot enough to incinerate a body, it requires actively adding fuel.
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  Speaker 2: It is an hour's long participation in the desecration of their.
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  Speaker 1: Victim, which brings us to the morning after the investigation begins.
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  Speaker 1: Almost immediately, Seith's parents knew instantly something was wrong. Sonia
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  Speaker 1: received an anonymous phone call stating Seth had been shot.
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  Speaker 2: The first crack in the group's armor comes from Kyle Hooper.
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  Speaker 2: The media gets hold of the story, and Kyle breaks
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  Speaker 2: He tells his mother he's not missing, he's dead, but
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  Speaker 2: he tries to claim he just hit Seeth with a
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  Speaker 2: stick and that Michael spontaneously started shooting.
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  Speaker 1: Right trying to thread the needle to explain his DNA
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  Speaker 1: at the scene, but Kyle's mother takes him straight to
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  Speaker 1: the police, which brings us to a detective Ronda Stroop.
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  Speaker 1: Her interrogations are a masterclass.
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  Speaker 2: She is incredibly skilled. She knew she was dealing with
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  Speaker 2: coordinated lies. She let Amber and Charlie tell their story first.
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  Speaker 1: They claim they hit in the bathroom her gunshots and
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  Speaker 1: stayed there all night, coming out to the smell of bleach.
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  Speaker 2: But detectives Stroop knew the bathroom had no door. They
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  Speaker 2: couldn't have barricaded themselves in. Once they locked themselves into
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  Speaker 2: that lie, she brought the hammer down.
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  Speaker 1: She sits across from fifteen year old Amber and says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to walk out and treat you like a
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  Speaker 1: piece of garbage, or you can sit here and treat
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  Speaker 1: me with the respect that I treated you with. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not playing with you, little girl.
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  Speaker 2: By using the phrase little girl, she reasserted the adult
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  Speaker 2: child dynamic Amber was used to manipulating boys. Stroop stripped that.
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  Speaker 1: Power away, and Amber breaks down and admits to helping
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  Speaker 1: scrub the floor with bleach. But the contrast in reactions
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  Speaker 1: is wild. Charlie genuinely panics, crying about her plans for
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the military being ruined.
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  Speaker 2: Self centered, but an authentic reaction.
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  Speaker 1: Of panic exactly. But Amber is sarifyingly calm. She thought,
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  Speaker 1: because she's a fifteen year old girl, should do a
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  Speaker 1: few years in juvie and go home.
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  Speaker 2: A profound disconnect from reality. But the most revealing moment
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  Speaker 2: is when detectives put the suspects together in a surveillance
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  Speaker 2: room alone.
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  Speaker 1: Classic tactic, and what do they talk about? Zero remorse
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  Speaker 1: for Seeth. They complain that people in town will hate them,
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  Speaker 1: that they fell into Michael's.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Trap, they view themselves as the victims. It proves the
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: empathy deficit was ingrained.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: The morning after the murder involves a coordinated cover up.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: They scooped his ashes and bone fragments into five gallon
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: paint cans, and this springs in the adult thirty seven
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: year old James Haven's, the third Kyle and Amber's x stepfather.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: He drives them thirty miles away to a flooded lime
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: rock quarry in Okalla. Havens claimed he didn't know what
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: was in the containers.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Which is absurd given the way, the smell of bleach,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and the kid's demeanor. The police dive team had to
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: search the murky bottom to find these buckets wired to
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: concrete bricks, a devastating end for a kid who dreamed
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of being a ufer.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the man hunt from Michael Bargo was underway. He
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: had fled eighty miles away.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: And he immediately starts bragging to anyone who will listen
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: about exactly what he did to Seeth.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: That intense need for an audience led to his capture.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: He was arrested the next day and his demeanor in
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the interrogation room was astounding.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: He acts completely smug. He demands a lawyer with an
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: arrogant smirk. He viewed himself as a local celebrity.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: The dark culmination of the digital colisseum. He felt he
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: had achieved the notoriety he craved.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: But the real world impact is utterly crushing the Jackson family.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Detective Stroop goes to the Jackson home to deliver the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: news and the house is packed with people.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: They assumed she was bringing Seeth home. They were waiting
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to welcome him back.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Put yourself in Sonya's shoes, staring at the front door,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: waiting for Seeth to walk in, and instead, Detective Stroop
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: walks in alone and has to tell them their son
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: was tortured, murdered, and burned by people he called friends.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It breaks the human Braine's father, Scott was blunt. He said,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I want to torture all of them, and I wouldn't
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: lose a bit of sleep over it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: The legal system was the only thing standing between matt
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: family's rage and the perpetrators. All five youths were charged
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: as adults with first degree premeditated murder, facing life or
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the death penalty.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Let's map out the trials. First was Charlie Ealy. She
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: claimed she was a terrified hostage in the bathroom.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: But the prosecution dismantled that she provided the location, knew
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: about the texts helped clean Amazingly, she was confident joking
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: about dinner plans after she got acquitted. The jury deliberated
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: for exactly one hour. Guilty life in prison.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Then Amber and Kyle. Kyle showed some remorse, crying and
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: apologizing in court, but the evidence of his participation was overwhelming.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Both found guilty life in prison, though due to a
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court ruling on juvenile life sentences, they were later
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: re sentenced to life with parole after twenty five years.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Justin Sodo pleaded guilty to avoid the death penalty life sentence.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: James Havens eventually he pleaded guilty as an accessory and
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: got ten years, which leaves Michael Bargo arrogant. As ever,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: he tried to claim self defense, the jury didn't buy it.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to death, becoming the youngest person on
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Florida's death row.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: This brings us to a complex debate. The judge stated
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: he prayed the reason for this evil was an unmatured brain.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Let me play devil's advocate Neurologically, teenage brains are wired differently, Right,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the prefrontal cortex isn't formed. Isn't that diminish culpability.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: The amigdala, responsible for impulse and fear is highly active. Well,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: the prefrontal cortex the breaks isn't fully developed, so they
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: have a hyperactive gas pedal and no brakes.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: But Sonia completely countered that. She said, a two year
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: old knows hurting someone is wrong, and this wasn't impulsive.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: They planned it for hours exactly coordinated premeditation severely weakens
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the impulsivity argument.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Amber's own words validates Sonya. Years later, Amber did an
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: interview with Piers Morgan for Killer Women. She admits she
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: knew Seith would be burned. She admits sleeping with Michael
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: to hurt Seeth.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Morgan asks her what she feels thinking back on it,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and she replies, honestly empty. After he died and I
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: cleaned up, Yeah, it's like he disappeared.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: No guilt, just avoid It is horrifying, but we have
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to touch on. A twenty twenty update, Charlie Eely got
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: out yes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: High profile attorney Jose bay As argued ineffective assistance of
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: counsel Regarding her original trial, a federal judge vacated her conviction.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: To avoid a new trial, she pleaded to second degree murder,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: got ten years, and, having served nine, was released in
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Her lawyer claims she was just a victim
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of being present, a.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Stark reminder of the legal system's complexities. But for the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Jackson family, there is no early release from grief.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Scott Jackson pushes his primal anger down every day, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Sonya still struggles, but she has this bond with Detective Stroop.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: When it's too much, she calls Stroop and they just
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: sit and drink coffee for hours.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: A powerful testament to compassion amidst pure depravity.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: A fifteen year old's life snuffed out over petty high
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: school drama and a toxic echo chamber.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: This raises an important question. We often view the digital
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: lives of teenagers as trivial a phase, but this proves
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: that when isolation, toxic group dynamics, and a digital echo
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: chamber collide, the line between an online threat and real
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: world violence vanishes instantly.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Look at the digital footprints of the people around you.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: How confident are you that you can tell the difference
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: between someone just venting for an audience and someone who
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: is actively building a trap. Keep an eye on those spaces.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: The line between angry words and unimaginable reality is much
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: thinner than we want to believe. Goodbye for now,