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- Lucas: We talk a lot on this show about cutting costs and optimizing supply chains, but there's a revenue lever that a lot of franchisees leave on the table—and it's not marketing or new menu items. Luna: Let me guess—you're going to say customer experience indexing. Lucas: Exactly. And I know that sounds like consultant-speak, but there's a real nuts and bolts approach that a few multi-unit franchisees are using to push same-store sales five to twelve percent higher within six months. Luna: Twelve percent? That's huge for a franchise that's already mature. What's the mechanism—are they just sending out surveys? Lucas: Surveys are part of it, but the key is actually closing the loop. Let me give you a concrete example. There's a franchisee in the Midwest who runs fourteen quick-service sandwich shops under a national brand. At the beginning of 2025, he started tagging every customer interaction with a real-time experience score—not just the old 'how was your visit' at the bottom of the receipt, but a three-question digital survey that hits the customer's phone within ten minutes of purchase. Luna: And he got enough responses to make that statistically meaningful? I know QSR response rates are usually abysmal. Lucas: He offered a small incentive—a dollar off their next visit—and got about a twenty-two percent response rate. That gave him over three thousand scored interactions per month per location. What he did next is the indexing part: he ranked each store by its average experience score, then correlated that score with same-store sales growth. Luna: So basically he proved that happier stores sell more. That's intuitive, but did the causation actually hold? Lucas: He drilled into it. The top-quartile stores by CX score grew same-store sales at about eight percent year-over-year. The bottom quartile grew at just under two percent. And when he moved a manager from a low-scoring store to a high-scoring store for two months, that low-scoring store's CX score jumped by fifteen points—and sales followed three weeks later. Luna: That's a great natural experiment. So he's using the CX index to identify which managers need coaching, not just which stores are underperforming. Lucas: Bingo. And that's where the operational piece comes in. He built a simple dashboard that flags any store whose weekly CX score drops more than five percent from its trailing four-week average. When that happens, the regional manager does a ride-along shift with the store manager—not to punish, but to observe and debrief. They look for patterns: understaffing during peak hours, slow ticket times, even something as simple as a broken ice machine that makes drinks taste flat. Luna: So CX indexing becomes a diagnostic tool, not just a report card. That's smart. But does this work for franchises that aren't QSR? Say, a service-based franchise like a cleaning company or a tutoring center? Lucas: It actually translates better than you'd think. The core principle is the same: define the key moments that matter in your specific customer journey, measure them consistently, and then link those scores to behavior—either employee behavior or operational processes. A tutoring franchise might measure 'likelihood to recommend' after each session and correlate that with student progress metrics. A cleaning franchise might measure 'arrival time accuracy' and 'thoroughness rating' and tie those to renewal rates. Luna: But here's the challenge I see: franchisees often don't own the customer data. The franchisor's app or POS system might capture it, but the franchisee can't always get a clean export. How do you get around that? Lucas: That's a real friction point. The franchisee I mentioned actually had to build his own survey system using a third-party tool that sat on top of the franchisor's POS. He printed QR codes on the receipts that linked to his survey, not the brand's national one. It took some negotiation with the franchisor, but he argued that he was testing something that could benefit the whole system—and eventually they gave him the green light. Luna: And did it scale? Did other franchisees in his system adopt it? Lucas: A handful did. But the interesting part is that he now uses his CX data as leverage when talking to the franchisor about menu changes or new equipment. He can say, 'Look, my top-scoring stores all show that customers want a gluten-free bun option. The data supports it.' That's a much stronger argument than just anecdotal requests. Luna: I love that—using CX indexing as a negotiation tool with the franchisor. That's a whole other angle. But let me play devil's advocate: if a franchisee starts publishing their own CX scores publicly, doesn't that open them up to liability if a store scores poorly? Or could the franchisor mandate a certain score threshold? Lucas: Great point. Most franchisees keep these scores internal. They share them with their managers and maybe with the franchisor's field consultant, but not publicly. The risk of a franchisor using the data punitively is real. That's why some franchisees prefer to use a third-party aggregator that anonymizes the scores across the system before sharing. But the franchisee I spoke with says the upside of transparency—his teams feel ownership over the scores—outweighs the risk. Luna: Speaking of the teams, how does he get buy-in from hourly employees? They're the ones delivering the experience. If they see it as just another metric to be tracked, they might game the system. Lucas: He ties a portion of the store's bonus pool to the CX score. If the store hits its target score for the quarter, every hourly employee gets an extra fifty cents per hour worked that quarter. That's a real, tangible reward. And he publishes the scores weekly in the back office so everyone can see where they stand. He says it creates friendly competition between shifts. Luna: So you're essentially turning customer experience into a team sport with a prize at the end. That probably beats a generic 'customer first' poster on the wall. Lucas: Exactly. And the data backs it up: his turnover rate among hourly employees dropped about thirty percent in the first year of the program. Employees said they felt more invested because their efforts were directly tied to a number they could influence. Luna: That's a powerful side effect. Let me ask about the numbers—what did this whole CX indexing setup cost him? The software, the incentives, the manager time? Lucas: He estimated about two thousand dollars per store upfront for the software setup and integration, plus about three hundred dollars per month per store for the survey platform and the dollar-off coupons. The bonus pool cost him about fifteen thousand dollars per year across all fourteen stores. Against the twelve percent same-store sales lift—which for him translated to about two hundred thousand dollars in incremental revenue per store annually—the ROI is enormous. Luna: That's a no-brainer at those numbers. But I'm wondering if there's a minimum scale required. If you only own one or two stores, does the math still work? Lucas: For a single unit, the fixed costs are a higher percentage of revenue, but it still pays for itself if you get even a two or three percent lift. The bigger barrier is the time investment to set up the system and train the team. That's harder when you're working the line yourself every day. Luna: But even then, a single-unit franchisee could start simple—maybe just a paper comment card with a simple star rating, collected weekly and tracked in a spreadsheet. The principle matters more than the tool. Lucas: Totally agree. The franchisee we're talking about started with a clipboard and a tally sheet. He only automated when he saw that the data was driving real changes. And that's the lesson: don't over-engineer it before you know it works. Luna: Alright, so for franchisees listening who want to try this, what's the first step? Lucas: Pick one store—your highest-traffic or most problematic one. Define three questions that matter most for your business. For QSR, those might be: 'How was the speed of service?', 'How was the food quality?', and 'Would you come back?'. Then start collecting responses for a month. At the end of the month, look at the trends and pick one operational change based on the feedback. Measure again the next month. That's your first CX index iteration. Luna: Simple, measurable, repeatable. I like it. And if the data shows improvement, you've got a case to roll it out to more locations—and maybe even use it to negotiate with the franchisor like your guy did. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the kind of leverage that can transform a franchisee from a passive operator into a strategic partner in the system. Luna: You know, it's interesting—conversations like this are exactly why we keep making these episodes. A lot of listeners have told us that these practical, data-driven approaches have changed how they run their businesses. Lucas: Yeah, and it's genuinely rewarding to hear that. Quick honest thing—a handful of listeners chip in monthly through buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's literally what funds making this many of these. No ads, no sponsors, just people who find value here keeping it going. Luna: It's a small group, but it makes a huge difference. And we're grateful for every single one. Lucas: Alright, back to CX indexing. One more thing I want to touch on: how you can use this data to improve your employee training program. Because the scores don't just tell you what's broken—they tell you exactly which behaviors to reinforce. Luna: Give me an example. Lucas: The franchisee I mentioned noticed that stores with the highest CX scores also had the lowest variance in wait times. So he studied the top-performing stores and found they had a specific pre-shift checklist that included verifying all equipment was working before the rush. He then made that checklist part of the standard training for new managers. Within two months, the bottom-quartile stores that adopted the checklist saw their CX scores improve by an average of eight percent. Luna: So CX indexing can actually inform your training curriculum. That's a whole new layer of value. Lucas: Exactly. And it's a virtuous cycle: better training improves CX, higher CX drives sales, and more revenue gives you resources to invest in even better training. Luna: Alright, I think we've given franchisees a solid blueprint here. Any final words of caution? Lucas: Just one: don't treat CX indexing as a one-time project. The stores that sustained their improvement were the ones that kept the dashboard visible and the bonuses tied to it. It's a muscle, not a fix. Luna: Muscle, not a fix. I'm stealing that. Lucas: Please do. And if you try it, let us know how it goes. We love hearing real results.