Latest / Intellectual Medicine / Can Stress Make Prostate Cancer Worse? The Truth About Fear and Cancer
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- 0:00The first thing somebody does when they get diagnosed with
- 0:02cancer is become stressed. But is that really bad?
- 0:06You know, if you're thinking about death, you're thinking
- 0:08about cancer. You're robbing your moment.
- 0:11The cancer is beating you twice. You do not want to die twice.
- 0:20All right, So we know stress is bad, and it's bad if you have
- 0:25cancer. They tell you to relax and not
- 0:28to stress. How do you do that?
- 0:32The first thing somebody does when they get diagnosed with
- 0:34cancer has become stressed. But is that really bad?
- 0:38We're going to talk about that. Is there good stress, bad
- 0:42stress? How do we diminish it?
- 0:44Does it affect our immune system and make cancer more likely to
- 0:47progress? So I'm going to break down some
- 0:50fallacies. First of all, stress is
- 0:52necessary, constructive, and helpful.
- 0:57It motivates action. If you are stressed because you
- 1:01have an exam in a week, that ain't bad.
- 1:04It's going to be helpful to make you study.
- 1:07If you don't study, then that is ignorance on your part and the
- 1:12stress will amplify. Take it to a job performance or
- 1:17a game or a future event. It's stressful to think about.
- 1:22I don't know, a 50th class year reunion?
- 1:26Am I going to show up looking old and dumpy?
- 1:29Maybe it'll motivate. So stress can motivate.
- 1:32When you feel pressure, when you feel stress, think of it as a
- 1:36signal. The outside world is creating a
- 1:39stimulus that is creating internal stress.
- 1:43Remember, the stress is always an internal response to an
- 1:48external stimulus. So I never want you to point
- 1:52your finger and say, well of course I'm stressed.
- 1:54Look at what my spouse did, of course I'm stressed, my boss.
- 1:57No, no, those are stimuli. OK, let's talk about how you
- 2:02respond to that. So you've been told you have
- 2:04cancer. The stress hits you lesson #1
- 2:08don't worry about being stressed.
- 2:09You're supposed to be stressed. You just told you were just told
- 2:12you had cancer. When faced with stress, the
- 2:15first thing you do is pause, unless the stress is coming from
- 2:20a car barreling at you, then you move.
- 2:23But in general, particularly in regards specifically to prostate
- 2:27cancer, really almost any cancer, you have time, but
- 2:32prostate in particular, do not let a doctor, a urologist or
- 2:37neighbor, a friend and aunt, a relative tell you you have to
- 2:42make a decision fast. This thing can explode.
- 2:45Tick, tick, tick. It's not that way.
- 2:49The most important thing to do is make a good decision.
- 2:52The stress should help motivate you to ask questions, to seek
- 2:58answers, not to just go and do the first thing you're told.
- 3:04Look, you've all bought cars. I hope some point it can be
- 3:07stressful. You go to a lot, They're pushing
- 3:10you to buy that car. How many of you would walk in
- 3:13the lot and drop top dollar day one?
- 3:16No, you'd shop around a little bit.
- 3:18Same thing with your prostate cancer.
- 3:21You pause and you shop a little bit if somebody's giving you the
- 3:24big pressure. I'll never forget a patient of
- 3:26mine diagnosed with prostate cancer and the surgeon said
- 3:31we'll set you up for surgery. Got to get you in right away
- 3:32before this spreads. Got to get it.
- 3:34Got to get it when it's early, folks.
- 3:37That was over 30 years ago. My patient is still alive.
- 3:43His surgeon since passed away. Now I find that ironic, although
- 3:46I don't wish harm to anybody. But let's talk about how you
- 3:50process this first, when you feel stressed, don't worry that
- 3:54you're getting stressed. You're supposed to be.
- 3:57It's not going to collapse your immune system in the acute
- 4:00phase. Consider it a signal to action,
- 4:04even if that action is contemplative, reflective, a
- 4:08little bit of research. Now you're through that window.
- 4:13Chronic stress in the absence of actionable events will wear you
- 4:19down. It'll make you no fun to be
- 4:21with. It will affect your immune
- 4:22system, and yes, it can be an amplifier of cancer.
- 4:28So you're through the first phase.
- 4:29My first recommendation, do your homework, study your options.
- 4:34There is no clear path of assured outcomes.
- 4:39None. So don't look for that ultimate.
- 4:42I'm going to find the root cause.
- 4:44I'm going to find the thing that is going to ZAP this cancer and
- 4:49make it go away. That is not happening.
- 4:51You will choose a path of treatment.
- 4:54And once you make the choice, your stress level should go down
- 4:58because now you have a point of action.
- 5:01Yeah, but, doc, what if it progresses?
- 5:02Yeah, but Doc, what if I die? OK, I get that piece of the
- 5:06equation. So you pick your path.
- 5:08What do you do next? You don't think about the next
- 5:11step. You go to the end of the road.
- 5:14This is called back engineering. The etiology of your stress go
- 5:18to the end of the road. Yeah, I'm talking about death.
- 5:21You go to death because it's going to happen, whether or not
- 5:24cancer or something else takes you away from that perspective.
- 5:30You back engineer how you want to respond.
- 5:34I'm reminded of the movie The Candidate with Peter Boyle and
- 5:37Robert Redford. I love that movie, and if you
- 5:40know of what I'm speaking, then I guess we're classmates.
- 5:43In the movie, Peter Boyle plays an operative, a political
- 5:46operative, and his job is to find a candidate to run against
- 5:51a powerful incumbent who will absolutely win the election.
- 5:56Thus, this candidate is just there to stop the party from
- 6:00being embarrassed by not having a candidate.
- 6:02So Peter Boyle's on one side of the table.
- 6:04He took it to Robert Redford on the other and tried to convince
- 6:06him. Robert say, I don't want to do
- 6:07it. I don't want to do it.
- 6:08And Peter Boyle takes a piece of paper, writes something on it,
- 6:10folds it in half, slides it across the table to Robert
- 6:14Redford. He opens it up.
- 6:16He looks at it and the paper says, you'll lose.
- 6:20Think about that with that paper, with the assured outcome
- 6:24of a loss. Robert Redford was liberated.
- 6:28I'm going to lose. Imagine you're sitting at that
- 6:31table and imagine the Archangel, whomever, your spiritual self,
- 6:36imagine it's you. Your doppelganger writes on that
- 6:40paper, folds it in half, slides it over to you, pick it up.
- 6:42You look at it and says you die. Everything else pales in
- 6:48comparison to that moment. Every worry, every thought
- 6:52pales. So because we're we know we're
- 6:55going to die and when we back engineer that knowledge.
- 7:00Here are some things that have helped others that are worth
- 7:02considering. Be prepared.
- 7:05Have a will as much detail as you can execute.
- 7:09It's an actionable moment. Get up, get a plot and remember
- 7:14Queequeg in Moby Dick, He had his his casket carved out.
- 7:19That's kind of creepy. I don't think I would do that,
- 7:22but it kind of makes sense. You know, where are you going to
- 7:25get buried? You're going to get cremated.
- 7:27Details, details. Friend of mine's mother was
- 7:29dying of lung cancer in her last days.
- 7:31She planned her entire funeral down to the napkins.
- 7:35It was constructive use of energy.
- 7:38Get rid of your junk if you're overloaded with it because she's
- 7:40going to get in the way. Nobody wants it.
- 7:41So now you're preparing the death phase.
- 7:44I reminded of this. I was on a plane, started
- 7:47bumping wildly, and I thought, well, this stinks.
- 7:51If this plane crashes, I mean, I die.
- 7:53That's not the worst thing in the world, I'm just a guy.
- 7:55But how about the people that were counting on me to show up
- 7:57tomorrow? What will that be like?
- 7:59Then I got stressed. So when the plane landed,
- 8:02Needless to say, it didn't crash and I didn't die.
- 8:04In that moment, I started making plans.
- 8:07So you get this back engineering.
- 8:09I'm not talking about the reckless oh, I'm going to live
- 8:12like I have no tomorrow, right? No, you live like you have a
- 8:16tomorrow now, with death being certain and everything else
- 8:21being relatively small in comparison.
- 8:25The thing that you can focus on is your vitality.
- 8:29It is the quality of the life you're living now, this week,
- 8:34tomorrow, next week. Without that focus, then you'll
- 8:40lose some of the joie de verve, some of the joy of living.
- 8:45You know, if you're thinking about death, you're thinking
- 8:46about cancer. You're robbing your moment.
- 8:50The cancer is beating you twice now.
- 8:53My goal is to never die. All right.
- 8:56I do anti aging medicine. Immortality is unlikely because
- 9:02death seems likely. My real goal is to stay youthful
- 9:07and energized until my last breath.
- 9:10It's what I want for you. All that's achievable.
- 9:14Now we're talking about actionable steps as opposed to
- 9:18free floating worry. Free floating worry is useless.
- 9:23Worry that translates into action becomes energy to
- 9:27motivate change. Do not expect to wither.
- 9:31Do not expect to be tired. Do not expect, nor should you
- 9:35invite that kind of misery. If there's a treatment for your
- 9:39prostate cancer that promises negative effect, you really got
- 9:45to think hard. Now we're giving up the moment
- 9:49for some pie in the sky. Maybe I won't die as quickly.
- 9:54Deal. That folks, is a rotten deal.
- 9:58So I say no. I say vitality.
- 10:03Live the moment that is encompassing of stress
- 10:07reduction. Are you going to die if you live
- 10:10in the moment and you don't pursue conventional treatment
- 10:13for prostate cancer? Yeah, you're going to die.
- 10:16You're going to die either way. Maybe not a cancer, but someday
- 10:19out there. You do not want to die twice.
- 10:24You don't want your masculine vitality to die and then your
- 10:28body follows it some years later.
- 10:31No, that's, that's that's double jeopardy.
- 10:33That's death times 2. It's a living death followed by
- 10:37a mortal death. Do not do that.
- 10:40So active stress reduction. We talked about actionable
- 10:43steps. How about meditation?
- 10:45How about yoga? How about how about how?
- 10:47What things can you do depends on your personality.
- 10:53Do I meditate? I do, but I do it briefly.
- 10:55I in the gym when I'm lifting weights, I'll sometimes just
- 10:58close my eyes. I know where the weight is.
- 11:00I know where I am. I don't need to see anything,
- 11:03especially I don't need to see that person in the corner of the
- 11:06gym doing some dorky maneuver that is just annoying me.
- 11:10It shouldn't. It should not annoy me, but it
- 11:12does. I don't know why they do it.
- 11:15Would you stop that already? That's dumb looking.
- 11:17Or some doofy alpha. They're worried or worse yet,
- 11:21worse yet, they're sitting on the machine texting on their
- 11:24phone. Meditative moment.
- 11:28So, so you can do this if it appeals to you, right?
- 11:30The deep breath, depart yourself.
- 11:34Sometimes I've been told you know, you really ought to stress
- 11:38reduce. You really ought to relax.
- 11:40Friends of mine are retired out playing golf, you know, every
- 11:43day Saturday to them, they love it.
- 11:47That would drive me nuts. Getting up without having a
- 11:51purpose, getting up without the need, the desire to chat with
- 11:54you guys, to have an effect on the planet because of what I do
- 11:58as a physician. Whoa, that thought stresses me.
- 12:02So when they tell me to relax, retire and go play golf, I get
- 12:05heart palpitations. My point being, it's different
- 12:08for different people. You have to know what makes you
- 12:13happy. You have to know what makes you
- 12:15feel satisfied. The idea that there is some type
- 12:18of prescribed activity necessary for us to reduce our sense of
- 12:23anxiety is false thinking. I've seen these Wellness places
- 12:28you can go away to. They stress me out.
- 12:31The day is chock full of stuff, you know, stretching sunrise,
- 12:35sunset too much for me. And for some people, they love
- 12:40it. So knowing your DNA, knowing
- 12:44what motivates you, this is the place you want to go.
- 12:48There is something called hedonistic deprivation.
- 12:53It's a chronic form of stress that eats away at your vitality.
- 12:57And it goes like this. Absence of joyful interlude
- 13:01begets misery. Now, you take a child and you
- 13:04don't let them play. They become a demented loser,
- 13:07pulling the wings off of flies, right?
- 13:09That's horrible. Flipping around.
- 13:11A child does nothing but play. They become like, you know, like
- 13:15a a donkey and Pinocchio, a kind of a life loser.
- 13:19There's a balance here, folks. As a grown up, as an adult, we
- 13:22play. We don't think of it that way,
- 13:24but in my world, going out to dinner play time, having a
- 13:29Margarita play time, playing kickball play time, you got to
- 13:34have some of that. You have to know it's your job
- 13:37to plan that extended deprivation begets a deprivation
- 13:43rebound. So in other words, if you think
- 13:46I have to fight cancer by wearing a hair shirt, I have to
- 13:50fight cancer by never having another glass of wine, I have to
- 13:52fight cancer by eating nothing but tofu.
- 13:56You know, 310, just stop. You're creating stress.
- 14:01You're, you're eliminating hedonistic outlet.
- 14:05Can you have occasional foods that are in a vacuum, not good
- 14:09for you? Yeah.
- 14:11The the emphasis is on the occasion.
- 14:14The emphasis is on hedonistic reinforcement of vitality,
- 14:20knowing you ever plan a vacation?
- 14:22Of course you have. And then you get what I like to
- 14:25call anticipatory hedonism. You're looking forward to that
- 14:28vacation. You know, right now, in the
- 14:30moment, things are a little dicey, but by golly, in August,
- 14:33I'm going to be filled in the blank on a cruise.
- 14:36Whatever it is you like, apply that principle to your life
- 14:40right now, with your prostate cancer, with your uncertainty
- 14:44about what happens next week, next month, or next year.
- 14:48Live fully. Take actionable steps.
- 14:52Plan hedonistic interludes, whatever they may be for you.
- 14:57They're not optional. They have to fit your life.
- 15:00They have to fit your likes. They have to fit your budget.
- 15:04But do not deprive yourself of that outlet.
- 15:07It's part of your cancer treatment.
- 15:11Yeah, I can write a prescription for that.
- 15:12Right. Go on a 7 day cruise.
- 15:14Would that make it tax deductible?
- 15:16I don't know. We're stretching the envelope a
- 15:18little there, folks. But the point here, make sure
- 15:21you weave that into your life on a regular basis.
- 15:24Don't let the cancer be your shadow.
- 15:26So stress, look at that as an opportunity to reflect and take
- 15:31an action. When your mind circles back,
- 15:34circles back, circles back, break the chain, move it away.
- 15:38There's a time to think about your cancer, and that's in a
- 15:41moment maybe like this, where we're talking about it.
- 15:44Maybe when you're with your doctor, then there's a time not
- 15:48to talk about it. When I was in high school, a
- 15:51classmate of mine injured his leg in a car accident.
- 15:55And for the next three years, everything circled back to his
- 15:59leg. You couldn't talk to the man
- 16:02without him talking about his leg.
- 16:04It's a nice day out today, isn't it?
- 16:06Yeah. You know, on days like this, my
- 16:07leg doesn't hurt so much. Where did that come from?
- 16:09Yeah, I saw the the football game last night.
- 16:12Yeah. I wish I could play football,
- 16:13but you know, I can't walk because my leg hurts.
- 16:15Don't be that person. People ask how you are.
- 16:18They say I'm fine. They want to talk about your
- 16:21cancer. Yeah, maybe, maybe not.
- 16:22There are people that are confidants.
- 16:25But you do not want to wear out folks with the theme of your
- 16:29cancer, right? You're more than the cancer,
- 16:32especially with prostate cancer. You do the right thing, you take
- 16:37an action. You live with the consequence.
- 16:41My wife once asked me if I knew I were dying, would I regret
- 16:44anything? You know, I I do a lot of anti
- 16:46aging. I do supplements.
- 16:47I'm on some peptide, some hormone, all based on research,
- 16:51all guided by my physician. Why do I do that?
- 16:55Because I like vitality. Will I die?
- 16:58Yes. Will those interventions have
- 17:01helped me live longer? Who knows?
- 17:03I like to believe they will, but that's less important to me than
- 17:05the vitality moment. And ultimately, if I'm clutching
- 17:09my chest, I'm going to the ground.
- 17:11I'm not going to be thinking to myself, oh, I should have quit
- 17:14smoking or bow, I wish I exercised more or fill in the
- 17:18blank. That's how I want you to live
- 17:20without regret regarding your health, your vitality.
- 17:23You do all the things that make the most sense, and then you
- 17:27don't have to worry because if you die, that fate was out of
- 17:32your hands. You don't have to second guess
- 17:35what you chose to do, even though the path remains
- 17:38uncertain. So I don't know.
- 17:41I hope this has been helpful to you guys.
- 17:43It's a practice, it's an art, it's a skill.
- 17:45It has to be repeated. This is not new.
- 17:48You can go back thousands of years.
- 17:50The ancient philosophers talk about stress.
- 17:53It's not the result of modern living.
- 17:55It's not because of cell phones. It's not because of the space
- 17:58age jets, cars. It was here during Aesop's
- 18:02fables. It was here when Socrates was
- 18:05tromping the earth. It is the state of mankind.
- 18:09It's one of the things that the great philosophers and religious
- 18:13Mystics sought to eliminate. Whether it's Buddha or Christ,
- 18:18Muhammad, It was stress reduction.
- 18:21Peace is what they wanted us to have.
- 18:25Well, if we had it, they didn't need to give it to us.
- 18:27Fact is, we more often default to being stressed.
- 18:31So take a deep breath, move to the light, find the things that
- 18:37quicken your pulse, make you smile.
- 18:39Therein lies your stress reduction.
- 18:41And it helps fight cancer and it makes life more fun.
- 18:45Well, thanks for spending some time with me.
- 18:46I hope it wasn't too stressful. Talk to you next time.
- 18:49Bye now.