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Single Women vs Single Men: Who Has It Harder in Dating? · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian with Allison, and this is maintaining frame single
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  Speaker 1: women versus single men who has it harder in dating.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be looking at a video from a channel
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  Speaker 1: called Counterpoint. They're like, if you get you get Jubilee
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  Speaker 1: on TIMU, I guess and they're basically trying to do
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  Speaker 1: the Jubilee thing and it's basically the same and uh,
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  Speaker 1: this time they have single men versus single women and
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  Speaker 1: they're base and they're they're all zoomers by the way too.
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  Speaker 1: This is an important bit of context. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be reacting to that because some of the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: was said, I mean, just brace yourselves. Though. These are
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  Speaker 1: young people and so the way they communicate might be
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  Speaker 1: like might might just be bad. Well, it's gonna be rough.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's gonna be rough because of the
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  Speaker 1: way they like, if you want to play a drinking game,
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  Speaker 1: play a drinking where you take a shot. Every time
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  Speaker 1: they say I feel like at the beginning of their sentence,
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  Speaker 1: that's and that's just so you know what you're what
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  Speaker 1: you're getting yourself into. Okay, mm hmm. Do you follow that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, so we'll be a little behind
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  Speaker 2: the lingo. Is what you're saying or actually, I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's very like it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: a therapeutic.
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  Speaker 2: It's a therapeutic modality in speech, which honestly, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: feel it's a it's a confessional, a testimonial in therapy speak,
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  Speaker 2: which is really common with this with this generation. I think,
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  Speaker 2: I think women of my generation are less inclined to
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  Speaker 2: this stuff than the men of the gen zs. That's
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  Speaker 2: that's that's quite a statement. But yeah, I I and
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what what is going to be the answer
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  Speaker 2: to this in this in this video single women versus
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  Speaker 2: single men? Who has it harder in dating? I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to guess that they went with women or did
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  Speaker 2: they not conclude anything?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, well, I'm not gonna. I don't want to bury
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  Speaker 1: the lead, but I will say that there is something
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  Speaker 1: interesting towards the end of the video. And another thing
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  Speaker 1: is they're there. Yeah, I wouldn't call I would save
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  Speaker 1: it for later, but there is something interesting towards the
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  Speaker 1: end of the video and also it is an interesting
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  Speaker 1: exercise in basically the way that young men and young
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  Speaker 1: women view the world, like the way that they experience
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  Speaker 1: it and how they you know, uh, let's say what
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  Speaker 1: they think is important, what it is that they're looking for, Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's very different perspectives on that, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: you'll be able to like get something out of that yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that you'll pick it up as well. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's that, but uh yeah, so let's let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna let's just dive right in.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, we're gonna start with the opening. So they
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  Speaker 1: bring about three different questions and then they do the
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  Speaker 1: thing where you know, whoever agrees steps forward, and then
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  Speaker 1: they have a discussion and then they bring the rest
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  Speaker 1: of them over. So the first question is nice well statement,
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  Speaker 1: it's a statement that they agree or disagree with. The
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  Speaker 1: first statement is nice guys finished last. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to say before we get into these, I don't like
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  Speaker 1: the way that these are phrased because it seems like
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a i don't know, like a trap.
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  Speaker 1: Like the statement nice guys finished last is like this
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  Speaker 1: kind of bumper sticker sentiment, but it's not really getting
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  Speaker 1: anything really true. So it's hard to have a real
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  Speaker 1: serious conversation about it, you know. But anyway, all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's go ahead and.
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  Speaker 3: Start finish last, we'll start by bringing up everyone that agrees.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if you don't agree with this, just be weary
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  Speaker 4: of what is all over Netflix, propaganda, on social media,
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  Speaker 4: et cetera. I mean, there's a reason why a majority
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  Speaker 4: of the women watch like movies like the are shows
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  Speaker 4: like The Vampire Diaries, and they're obsessed with the bad
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  Speaker 4: guy Damon, and the Damon becomes good and now they're
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  Speaker 4: all back on Stephan because he's the bad guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it is literally a term that is known and thrown
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  Speaker 4: around society today and has been around for years on years.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, uh, perfect example is, like, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: have a couple of guys that they're just extremely like
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  Speaker 4: good gentlemen, treat their you know, they court their women,
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  Speaker 4: they take care of them, and the woman could just
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  Speaker 4: throw it right in the face like yeah, so I're
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  Speaker 4: too nice for me, and then they just leave them.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, So.
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  Speaker 2: My camera's off center. Uh, speaking of which, you might
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  Speaker 2: want to move back a bit if you can in
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  Speaker 2: like moving yourselves. Yeah, Like, yeah, you keep drifting, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it part of it is because you're really
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  Speaker 2: close to the camera. So yeah, if you if you
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  Speaker 2: can move the camera a little bit further away from
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  Speaker 2: you that might work anyway. So yeah, I was just
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  Speaker 2: I was just adjusting because my camera was off center.
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  Speaker 2: It was, and that was bugging me because I'm autistic.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, he's one hundred percent right, and I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you exactly why our society has constructed a situation
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  Speaker 2: where women's social value is increased by rejecting men. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was always sort of the case that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, women rejecting men would feel like they have
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  Speaker 2: greater social value. But now it's like you reject the
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  Speaker 2: whole concept of a man, not just a man, but
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  Speaker 2: a concept of a man, and that's encouraged. And there's
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  Speaker 2: this almost this this one not almost. There is this
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  Speaker 2: strong tendency in our culture to frame men as bad bets,
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  Speaker 2: as bad choices for women in their life, not very
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  Speaker 2: good partners, they don't pull their weight in housekeeping, whatever else,
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  Speaker 2: even though that's patent really false. If you include employment, what.
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  Speaker 5: Is that word?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm losing my words today. If you include it's
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  Speaker 2: the word going from work to home commute. If you
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  Speaker 2: include employment, commute plus chores plus childcare, men and women
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  Speaker 2: effectively work the same amount of time a week and
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  Speaker 2: so there's there's no real substance to those complaints, and
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  Speaker 2: yet they're ubiquitous. And then there's also the men make
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  Speaker 2: poor lovers complaint, So in every context, a man is
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  Speaker 2: seen as a poor investment by woman in her life.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have all of the very toxic narrative
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  Speaker 2: around the relationship between men women. Feminist frame it as
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  Speaker 2: the source of patriarchal oppression, which is basically the source
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  Speaker 2: of original sin in society is right there in the
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  Speaker 2: relationship between men and women. So you construct these generations
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  Speaker 2: of women who think that rejecting men is what they
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  Speaker 2: should do, and that if they accept a man, they're
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  Speaker 2: basically being conned. You know, they're just engaging in being conned.
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  Speaker 2: So there's this tremendous kind of urge to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of a male partner as soon as you get one.
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  Speaker 2: And the only men who really survive that kind of
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  Speaker 2: sorting is men who can induce fomo, that is, fear
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  Speaker 2: of missing out on women. And the kind of men
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  Speaker 2: who can induce fomo in women are of course the
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  Speaker 2: ones well they might be highly successful or very attractive,
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  Speaker 2: but even men who are highly successful and very attractive
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  Speaker 2: can fail to induce fomo in women because they are
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  Speaker 2: too reliable, Like they show up and then suddenly the
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  Speaker 2: woman's like, I don't know, I'm comfortable, therefore I don't
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  Speaker 2: have that feeling, that anxiety. Therefore I'm no longer attracted.
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  Speaker 2: There's the other thing. There's this this strong impulse in
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  Speaker 2: women's sexual fiction to associate adrenaline, cortisol responses, fear responses
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  Speaker 2: with arousal. Go read the Dark Romance and you'll see it.
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  Speaker 2: So it's this this situation where the men who are
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  Speaker 2: attractive to women are the ones who are withholding. So
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  Speaker 2: you get this. The most attractive stimulant is something that
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  Speaker 2: is inconsistent. So if you give a rat a lever,
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  Speaker 2: and every time the rat pushes the lever it gets
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  Speaker 2: a pedal a pellet, it won't. That's not as like
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't get as a compulsive behavior towards that as
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  Speaker 2: if you actually make it intermittent, so that maybe every
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  Speaker 2: third time a rat gets a pellet, maybe every twentieth time,
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  Speaker 2: and you change that around, and the rat will be
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  Speaker 2: sitting there hitting the lever forever, even when there's no
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  Speaker 2: pellet coming at all. It takes a long time for
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  Speaker 2: them to learn not to continue to do or continue
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  Speaker 2: to do what they think gets their reward even after
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  Speaker 2: the reward ceases it. And it's the same principle with men.
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  Speaker 2: A man who is withholding, a man who is unreliable
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  Speaker 2: and intermittent with his affection is going to induce fomo
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  Speaker 2: in women. And that's basically the profile of a narcissist
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  Speaker 2: or a sociopath. So when this guy says nice guys
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  Speaker 2: finished last, he is one hundred percent accurate in this framework,
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  Speaker 2: in this relationship situation that we have in our society,
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  Speaker 2: in this social situation, he's right because it's the men
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  Speaker 2: who are not nice who can create, are willing to create.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have any interest in creating a sense of
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  Speaker 2: comfort or safety or reliability in women. That's not what
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  Speaker 2: they're there for. Those men win because those men are
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  Speaker 2: able to make the fomo that directly balances or neutralizes
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  Speaker 2: the woman's desire to eject because he's always, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: he's always presenting the idea that he could. He's always
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  Speaker 2: the one who's gonna leave first, so she has to
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  Speaker 2: cling to him. She never gets into the headspace where
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  Speaker 2: she's comfortable enough to start thinking about how it might
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  Speaker 2: be you know, she's not good enough, she's not attracted enough,
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  Speaker 2: She's always in that cortisol drenched fear state, and that
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  Speaker 2: keeps her coming back. And it's all basically hormones. Basically
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  Speaker 2: hormones in conjunction with how we have structured our attitudes
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  Speaker 2: towards men and women and the relationship between them. Okay, yep, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: my cat is racking the hell out of me.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay, all right, So I guess we
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  Speaker 1: can play more of this, So let's get all of
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  Speaker 1: their reactions to this prompt.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like he kind of just said all of
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  Speaker 6: it to be real. I mean, I feel like in
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  Speaker 6: a couple of times in my experience that's happened where
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  Speaker 6: I've been nice to a girl and then like obviously
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  Speaker 6: like she passed me up for some duo, was like
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  Speaker 6: just trash, you know, and like you.
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  Speaker 7: Talk it up to the game.
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  Speaker 6: But like, I've also had friends who have been in
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  Speaker 6: the same situation. So I just I feel like if
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  Speaker 6: it hasn't happened to you, you at least know somebody
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  Speaker 6: that it's happened to. So I do think it's a real,
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  Speaker 6: a real thing.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not the question is nice guys, is it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's not even really innate to women. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's innate to the circumstances we find ourselves
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  Speaker 2: in into the current era, like get rid of get
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  Speaker 2: rid of the pervasive narrative that the relationship between men
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  Speaker 2: and women is one of oppression of women, that women
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  Speaker 2: lose out, that they are being conned out of something
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  Speaker 2: precious by you know, the man. You get rid of that.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think these men who induce fear of
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  Speaker 2: missing out and women would be as successful, and they
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be necessarily as attractive. I've got other things that
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  Speaker 2: I could talk about, like, like I said, I've been
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  Speaker 2: I've been going into like an indocrinology, yeah, like researching it,
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  Speaker 2: but of pair bonding and sexual behavior in humans. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's if you wanted to say anything that can continue.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, it's okay. I'm gonna let the next guy speak.
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  Speaker 8: The guy's on social media that went about, oh I'm
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  Speaker 8: such a good guy. I don't understand why no girl
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  Speaker 8: wants me.
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  Speaker 9: They do.
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  Speaker 8: They do finish last, but for good reason. They're usually
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  Speaker 8: not the best.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God, this guy's a I can just see the scum.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Him, he might he might be. I won't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know this guy, but he is sort of like
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  Speaker 1: he's doing this thing where yeah, there are there are
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  Speaker 1: trash men that that like finish last. That's probably because
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  Speaker 1: they're not good men, right like or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, then explain the t app. Explain the
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  Speaker 2: t app. Explain the fact that all of these women
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  Speaker 2: were having sex with the same men and having.
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  Speaker 1: Regret the same guy website.
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  Speaker 2: And the red flags appeared to be instead of red
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  Speaker 2: flags for these women. That was like God, it was
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  Speaker 2: almost like a positive reviews for these men because and
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  Speaker 2: and the most important comment was does he fuck good?
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  Speaker 1: Like? Yeah, I can actually give you do he fuck good?
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  Speaker 2: Fuck good? Like this? And I could give you a
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  Speaker 2: complete endocrinology profile of what is going on there. I
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  Speaker 2: won't because we're reacting to this, but there, this is
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  Speaker 2: this guy is full of absolute crap, absolute crap. And honestly,
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  Speaker 2: he probably isn't in your He's probably talking about himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you're not one of the nice guys. Sure, But
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  Speaker 2: the truth is that the landscape is structured in such
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  Speaker 2: a way that men who give off some signals of reliability, comfort,
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  Speaker 2: and bonding. Secure bonding have a detriment in this society.
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  Speaker 2: And it's specifically because feminists say that exactly that is
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  Speaker 2: the source of women's oppression. Being chained to a man
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  Speaker 2: is the source of women's oppression. What do you think
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna do to women? Mentally? It's gonna make them
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  Speaker 2: want to do like at the aqueduct as soon as possible,
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  Speaker 2: as soon as they feel the chains, you know, closing
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  Speaker 2: around on them, which is just basically a bonded relationship.
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  Speaker 2: So again, the only guys who are gonna win in
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  Speaker 2: that are the men who are constantly keeping her on eggshells,
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  Speaker 2: constantly making her feel like she doesn't know where the
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  Speaker 2: relationship is, gives her no security, and drips out, drips
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  Speaker 2: out the effect and the attention, like very miserly, just
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  Speaker 2: enough to keep her going. That's the kind of man this,
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  Speaker 2: this whole situation selects for. And this dude, I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know why he's there. I uh, do we have
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  Speaker 2: to listen to him anymore? Can we just click selectively
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  Speaker 2: never listen to him again, because he's got nothing to add.
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  Speaker 1: We can jump ahead to the next one.
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  Speaker 2: No, let him finish all.
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  Speaker 8: Crying for a reason, like from what I see, not statistically,
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  Speaker 8: from an anecdotal perspective, to kind of build up what
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  Speaker 8: you were saying, Like the female fantasy is that guy
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  Speaker 8: who has that capacity for violence, that tamable monster kind
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  Speaker 8: of thing.
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  Speaker 7: We hear about that, I'm sure on social media on
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  Speaker 7: all the time.
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  Speaker 8: But I think those guys they just haven't either they
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  Speaker 8: are not tameable or they definitely.
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  Speaker 7: Just don't have that capacity for it, you know what
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  Speaker 7: I mean.
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  Speaker 8: They're those guys that like, yeah, oh you can never
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  Speaker 8: hurt a fly. Well that's not good because sometimes you
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  Speaker 8: you have not bad to be strong, you have to
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  Speaker 8: be tough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that, but like that's not I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that that's the issue.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, he's not much Yeah, not not annoying me as
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  Speaker 2: much now, But go ahead, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Well, why why would you say he's not now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean he is. He is correct, like about
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  Speaker 2: what he's saying here. I think he's he's going all
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  Speaker 2: over the place and what he's saying isn't as coherent.
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  Speaker 2: It's like what Jordan Peterson says, you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be you want to be a man, who is capable
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  Speaker 2: of this but doesn't right now. And he's he that's
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  Speaker 2: what he's talking about. No capable, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He is, but but like that's the thing is, well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're that they get into this.
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  Speaker 1: But my problem with that claim is that by that logic,
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  Speaker 1: than eighty percent of men, which is like the majority
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  Speaker 1: of men that women are not interested in because they're
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  Speaker 1: you know, because they're too they're they're not exciting enough.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's ultimately what women are looking for is something
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  Speaker 1: exciting but also something that makes other women envy them.
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  Speaker 1: So there's like, that's what they're pursuing. It's not they're
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  Speaker 1: not looking for a good man. They're looking for a
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  Speaker 1: fun time that's exciting and a little bit dangerous. And
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  Speaker 1: the thing is is that if I guess what I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying is is that he's putting the blame on the
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  Speaker 1: wrong group of people because he's saying, well, I know
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  Speaker 1: some men who are who wouldn't hurt a fly, And
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, it's not, that's not really a nice guy, right,
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  Speaker 1: That's that's not really or at least what people typically
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  Speaker 1: think of as a nice guy. That is the trade
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  Speaker 1: of some men who you know, maybe they are very
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  Speaker 1: passive or whatever, but like that's a small I think
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  Speaker 1: that's a smaller percentage than the majority, which the majority
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  Speaker 1: are the men that women tend to reject, and I
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  Speaker 1: think the overwhelming majority of men just want to you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're like kind people, you know, despite feminists trying to
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  Speaker 1: convince us that men are inherently violent and dominating and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: all that, which is weird because when they get the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: men they want, like when they when feminists make men
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the way they want them to, women are bored immediately,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: and that's why they go after, you know, these so
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: called bad boys. So that's what I'm saying is that
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: he's talking about what he's talking about. If if we
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: followed that logic, that group of men that he's talking
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: about is not not even a fraction of the men
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: women are rejecting. Do you know what I'm saying?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Hmm yeah, yeah, yet yeah, well, and I mean you
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: don't want to be somebody. Well, first of all, men,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: like I'll be really honest, just normal men unless they
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: are somehow you know, physically compromised, are pretty substantially stronger
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: than the average woman. Right, So there's always that element
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: of danger. And one of the problems that I see
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: is that men who internalize the feminist belief about men,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: which is that the relationship between men and women is
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: a source of oppression, develop a lot of anxiety about
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: their own strength. So they don't really inhabit their bodies
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and they don't feel comfortable. And that's I don't know
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: if that's in any way related to what he's saying,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: but the acknowledgment that you are capable of violence is inevitable,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I think with men for a number of reasons. And again,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the first part is that they're physically stronger than women,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: but they're also more risk tolerant, and they also have
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: faster reflexes, and they also have more predatory focus. So
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, there is that kind of there is that
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: those elements there.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's saying that, you know, a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: man should be able to control all that, which is fair,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Like I would say that's fair, but actually, why don't
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: we just let him finish see if he comes with.
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: Conclusion one life is hard and two, if she wants
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: to pick a mate, she's gonna want to pick a
• 21:16
  Speaker 8: guy like a traditional woman's gonna want to pick a
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: guy that can defend her and her children that she
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: might have one day. She's not gonna pick some guy
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: who's keyboard complaining about, Oh, girls don't like me it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: because i'm five eleven. Well i'm five to ten and
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: I can still talk to women. It's not that hard
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: just because you're not six foot you know.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, this is annoying. Okay, quizzling, Get the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: fuck out of there, Like, why are you out there?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: What is the per Okay, I'm back on this, Okay.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Why he's still I think he's in a way, he's
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: there competing with men. Still he's still engaging in that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: in the rat race. I mean, he's five eleven, so
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: maybe he has a chance. I don't know, maybe they won't.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Notice he's still engaging in the ratler. You know he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: five ten.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still engaging in the competition, even though this
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: isn't a like you know, like it's not even think
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: he's trying to get with any of the women on
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the panel. But he's still engaging in a kind of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like I don't know, like a display of his fitness,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: his sexual fitness or his you know, and by because
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he's kind of dragging men down a little bit, which
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is kind of shitty, but yeah, yeah, that's.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can make these points without saying that, right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is that if you're going to
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: make the point that men should be comfortable with their
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: capacity for violence, well it's comfortable, but not like aware
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: of it and aware of when it's appropriate. Then don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: talk to these dudes on the internet who are saying
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: women don't like nice men. In other words, women don't
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: like men who have done everything they can to feel
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: completely uncomfortable within their bodies because of that capacity for violence.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Like that, don't go to those men and say, oh,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: you're you're you're doing something wrong. They're doing exactly what
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: they're told. They're doing exactly what they've been told to do,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: which is to neutralize their capacity for violence, which functionally
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: means be very uncomfortable with your body. Because men are
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: physically stronger, it's just a fact of biology. And they
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: are faster, and they are more coordinated, let's be frank,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: and they are and they have better endurance, and they
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: have lower lower threat uh higher threat tolerance, greater risk tolerance.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: They are less anxious and stressful situations there's a whole
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: suite of things that make men supposedly more dangerous, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: it's not going to go away unless they, I don't know,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: biologically engineer women to all be like like this new
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: SNeW women in Futurama. But it's it's just it's it's there.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And what feminists do is they make those men incredibly
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable with that fact. They make them constantly, uh constantly
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: perform safeness. And then when they're constantly performing safeness to women,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: women aren't interested in them. And then they're like, well,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm doing what I've been told to do. What gives
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: And then this dude is like, ah, you guys go brah.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: You guys just don't know what it's like. No, they're
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: doing what they're told. I don't. There's something about him
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: that's just is just off. I don't know what it is.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Like, he's like kind of pasty and.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: No it's not don't don't don't throw around your melody kidding. No,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: but he's I don't know, there's just something off about
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: this dude's squeak. But but again he's he's he is
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: pointing at the men, and the men are doing what
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: they're told to perform safety, to perform shame. I occupy
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: this body, that's dangerous. I am ashamed of it. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: am constantly monitoring myself for any potential harms to others,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: which is what men do anyway, but I'm doing it
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: even more, like even more constantly. I'm using feminist language.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Why aren't women attracted to that? To my ball of neurosis?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And he's like, your guys are just wrong. Can't you
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: just do the thing? You know, just do it. I'm
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: not gonna tell you how or what steps, but we'll
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: just do the thing. I do it. I'm only five ten.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, they're doing what they're told. Maybe we
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: should address that fact. Maybe we should address what people
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: are telling these men, you know, and maybe say, yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that's not really functional.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: Okay, yep, okay, is able to still be a gentleman?
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: So yes, do nice guys finish last, the stereotypical kind?
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: Yes?
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: Is it good that they finished last? Probably?
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, I would you too that majority of the time,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: like we're not saying that good guys don't always finish last,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: it's just the simple fact that like that term exists,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: and a lot of the times, like what comes to
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: mind for me is like the term simp, Like that's that.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Those are the good definition in anxiety.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: So a lot of the times women look at guys
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: and they're like, I don't want to be like overly
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: pedestalized by this man, you know. I want somebody that's
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: individual and takes care of his needs and then can
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: also bring me along and then take care of me
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think this guy is more or
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: less like pretty grounded, like he knows what a simp is,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: for example, and those are real things, you know. But
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I do think that it can like get too liberally
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: used for any man that's just being nice but or
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: just you know, being polite or whatever cordial. But but yeah, no,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I mean go ahead, Yeah, he's he's got to I'm sorry,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I'm interrupting you.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I'm getting scorely finish your thought.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: No, I think I said what I wanted to say.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, yeah, then I shall squirrel. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: he's I think he's got a reasonable I mean, everybody
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: should really have something going on for themselves.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And they and they should have their boundaries too. That's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: the thing, like you don't want because like if you
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: don't have boundaries as a man. Uh yeah, women will
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: totally take advantage of that. And I think that if
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you let them, then then they you know, they'll get
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: bored or they'll get disgusted because they think that. And yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: women are always ship testing men for that, you know.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And I just wonder it's yeah, go ahead.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I wonder how much again is that whole impetus that
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: women lose out in relationships?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And that's that's the cultural narrative that we have right now,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is the ship testing and the because if you if
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you think that you are always on the losing end
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: of a relationship, there's a strong inclination to play these
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: stupid games so that the other party proves that they're
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: invested or whatever else.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: But it continued, Uh, yeah, I said what I wanted
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to say. But let's let's go this.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's a great time to hear
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: what the women think.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And one, oh good lord, Yeah, it's time to hear
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the women. Oh boy, here you go.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: You talk about simping a bit. No, you know what
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I was going to say that there's the problem with
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: blaming men too much for simping is because there's a
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: sort of an endocrine basis for it. And I could
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: get into that, but let's let's continue.
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: All right, gentlemen's comment, and then.
• 28:53
  Speaker 11: Good versus weak is what I was more referring to.
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: When when somebody says, like the good guy finishes last,
• 28:59
  Speaker 11: I don't necessarily agree with that. I think that the
• 29:01
  Speaker 11: weak men finish last. I think that the people that
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: aren't seen as being able to support her properly or
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: be able to stand in a position a relationship where
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: you know, she feels protected or comfortable or able to
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: express herself the way that she wants to. And if
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: you're if you're gonna sit there and be this good
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: guy what people think?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, sir, sir, can I just point something out to you.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Everything you've described has been told to young men as
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the source of the greatest evil in the world. Okay,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: young men have been told that this is oppressing women,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: that this is taking away women's autonomy, that it's disrespecting women.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Can we for a moment stop focusing on the men
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: who've internalized that message and start focusing on the women
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: who keep pushing it out into the NOA sphere?
• 29:58
  Speaker 12: Right?
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Because these young wo men and where are they supposed
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to get a positive male role model, considering the rate
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: of single motherhood and the lack of teachers to actually
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: explain all of this to them. They're being told what
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: to do, and what they do is wrong, and you're
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: blaming them for doing what they're told even though they
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: exist in a society. If they don't do what they're
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: told by feminists, they get punished, they get socially ostracized,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: they lose jobs, right, they lose friendships. So everything in
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: our society is arranged to deliver the message to young
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: men that exactly what this man has said. Young men
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: should be protective, you know, make sure she feels safe,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: make sure you can provide for her. What does that
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: map onto. It maps onto a traditional relationship, which is
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the source of patriarchal oppression of women. That's what young
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: men hear. So to turn around and then blame them
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: for the fact that they aren't doing that because they're
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: told not to do that and they're punished when they
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: do seems disingenuous in the extreme. Okay, And I know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I know he's more grounded, but I'm just this is
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: a different guy. Okay, Yeah, this is a different guy.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: The guy in the black shirt is the one that
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I said is a little bit more grounded. This guy
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: is the one. He was the one that disagreed with
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: the sentiment that nice guys finished last, so that that's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: where he's coming from.
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: Okay, person who can't you know, provide their end of
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: the the relationship is what I typically see. So because
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: I know a lot of quote unquote good people that
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: are in that that finish line of like what I
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: want and like in that in marriages. You know, they
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: have kids, they families, all these things are really great people.
• 31:49
  Speaker 11: But they're not weak in the same sense too, So
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: I guess I I more so agree. But it's what,
• 31:54
  Speaker 11: what is your definition.
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: Of good guy?
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's in the word. Yeah, it makes sense.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Well no, but the the thing is the prompt is
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: nice guys finished last, which you know, that's like a saying.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: But I mean, you could at least make the case
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that there's a difference between someone who is nice and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: someone who is good, because nice is kind of like,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you know, people like people. I think that nice is
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: sort of like shallow, you know, and it's not substantive.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't actually test you. You don't you don't make
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: any sacrifices for people. You just you just say the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: right things. You're basically like, you know, going along to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: get along. You're playing it really safe and mostly like
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: women are more like when they're when they're sort of performing,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you know, their virtues, like when they're virtues sigling and stuff.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: That's like being nice, but it's not like being good.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Like being good is like going into a burning building
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: and like you know, bringing a baby out or something.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't be that extreme, but you know
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, when you're doing good, you don't
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: have as much concern about what other people think about
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you because you're doing what you think is right in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the moment. When you're nice, you're very concerned with what
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: other people think about you. So the sentiment nice guys
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: finished last if you were gonna, if you're gonna talk
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: about that, you can at least talk about it in
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: that framing instead of sort of throwing a bunch of
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: stuff together, right like, because now you're basically talking about
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: men who are good men. And yeah, there are good
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: men and like he said, there they won like they're
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: married and they have a family. It's probably not because
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: they're nice. It's probably because they're good, you know. But
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: being nice is is like a it's like a cloak
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: that you wear, you know, it doesn't it's not it's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: not like real. I mean, you could be both of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: those things at once. But you can certainly just be
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: nice and not necessarily be good, you know, when the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: chips are down and when you're like people need you
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, But the other thing is this is
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: again centering the problem on men, right, And the impulse
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: is to constantly recenter the problem women. I see two
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: men on the male side who are basically on the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: female side. Isn't that interesting? And so the impulse is
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to continuously recenter the problem women. No matter how much
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: difficulty is constructed by our institutions, by our government, by NGOs,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: by academia, by the educational system, no matter how much
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: problems that these people are creating for men, the problem
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: always rests on men's shoulders. Did we go through the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: women's part?
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: They're coming now. They just remember they just came and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: sat down, But they first had the one guy who
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: didn't sit down with the others, and now they're going
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to go to the women.
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: Okay, And just who I would like to start over here.
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: I think I agree with what you guys said about
• 34:56
  Speaker 12: putting a woman on a pedestal can kind of be
• 34:58
  Speaker 12: a red flag past relationships. The nice guys in those
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: they did put me on a pedestal, and I feel
• 35:05
  Speaker 12: like the lack of ambition for their own personal goals
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: was a red flag. I'm a very ambitious person. I'm
• 35:11
  Speaker 12: very career focused. I'm the youngest manager in my company
• 35:15
  Speaker 12: and district manager, and so just have someone that settles
• 35:18
  Speaker 12: for bare minimum, to me, that's a red flag. I
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: have a lot of goals and dreams, and for someone
• 35:25
  Speaker 12: that just kind of goes along with those but doesn't
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: have their own, I think is a real turn off
• 35:31
  Speaker 12: for me.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: What do you date a lot of those people?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: No idea, But when I hear from women like I'm
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a very ambitious person, that's like a red flag for
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: me because I mean, look, if a woman is trying
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: to be successful at something, I don't have a problem
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: with that. But if they're single and they're really ambitious
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, chasing that bag, then they
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: may have like even high her expectations from the men.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So it is probably a reason why she's singled. Do
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know exactly.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, I see some people in the in the chat.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm just wanting to acknowledge the on point heavy he's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: been saying a lot of things. The last statue Brian
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Contiici's lads, a lesson to two about growing a mustache.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Philip Williams evening, I hope you've been doing well. It's
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: been a while since watching live. Currently catching up. Currently
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: on the scum man who was blaming good men men.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Nice guy. Yeah, well again, I think he's also kind
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of throwing shade at just men in general, like this
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: is like intrasexual competition for these men. So but anyway, Yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying when a woman says I'm very career focused,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm very ambitious, that's like them saying I hope I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: find a man that matches my energy and that that's
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: just not going to happen. Like because men. It's funny
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: because when when men pursue career and they work really hard,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: it's because they want to support a family, and so
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: they're they're actually prepared to give most of what they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: make away most of the time. I know that there's
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: some people in the chat are that are doing it
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: for themselves When women pursue career, they're doing it for themselves.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's like men don't want women's money most of
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the time. So but anyway.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I can, I can, actually, I think I can articulate
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: what's bothering me about that man? He if he's competing here,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: he competes perpetually, right, which means his entire of war,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: his entire relationship to other men is competition. And that's
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: actually a red flag because if his entire relationship to
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: other men is competition, he's incapable of actually caring about
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: or bonding with other men. He's probably a sociopath. That
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: might be what I'm picking up on, because if your
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: entire relationship with men is mediated through competition, then your
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: your landscape, your emotional landscape is mostly it's not bonding, right,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: it's not recognizing the needs of others. It is seeing
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: everything in terms of status jockeying with other men, which
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: probably he's going to bring to his relationships with women too,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: And it's not going to be about you. He's not
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: going to pair bond like a normal man. It's going
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to be about what he can extract from you. What
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: he can say about himself in terms of relationship with you,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: how your re quote unquote what isn't really a relationship,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: but how his conquest of you relates to his competition
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: with other men, like and this is this is the thing.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Like guys who perform that kind of a kind of
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: conflict or not competition, that kind of virtue mediated competition
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: with other men, like they have a particular mentality and
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: it's probably you probably should stay if you're a woman,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: you should stay away from it. But that's why feminists
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: always seem to end up with the worst men, because
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: they have absolutely no instincts about how men behave. And
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: they think that if a man throws other men under
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: the bus, oh that's a green flag. No, it's a
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: red flag. It's a huge red flag. It means this
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: vasippressing system isn't working properly. It means it's not bonding
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to people. It's not bonding to men, which this is
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you know, men have friendships. I know I'm using the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: endocrinology terms, but men have friendships. They bond to other men.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: That is a demonstration that they are capable of pair bonding,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: right that they and because they are capable of bonding
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: to another human being in a platonic sense. You see
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And then the relationship with a woman
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: isn't just sexual, it is also platonic bonding. If you
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: want to have, you know, a thirty year relationship, you
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: gotta have other things going than just sex. So when
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: he's demonstrating a complete lack or complete consideration for other men,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: he's demonstrating that there's something wrong with his vacippress and
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: bonding system, like apparently it doesn't activate with non sexual inputs,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: which means that you're any kind of relationship with him
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: is going to be characterized by potentially intense sexual encounters,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: but absolutely no follow through, no showing up, no care.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe possessiveness, maybe even violent possessiveness, but no actual bonding
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: and no actual custodial ship. And I could get further
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: into this based on endochronology, but I won't. I will
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: stop there. That guy's bad news. That guy's bad news, articulated.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: The other dude is just an idiot. That one's bad news.
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: Okay, okay, with those nice guys, okay, I feel like
• 41:10
  Speaker 13: there's so many layers to the term nice guys. Finished
• 41:13
  Speaker 13: last for example, you'd mentioned like simp. I've actually never
• 41:17
  Speaker 13: heard any woman around me refer to another man as
• 41:21
  Speaker 13: a simp. I also reject the idea of needing like
• 41:25
  Speaker 13: a sus.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Well, well, that's because you probably haven't heard it from
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: women because they benefit from simp behavior. So why would
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: they insult their simps by calling them simps. It's men
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: that do that, because what men are trying to do
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: is they're trying to shame or coerce those men out
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: of that behavior. Women will never well, some women have
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: done it, because if you're, like I guess attractive enough,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you can just call men simps and get away with
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: it and they'll still send you money but or whatever
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it is that you want to get. I remember that
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: one chick that said simping is king shit online and
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: she was like, I don't know, poke Maine. Maybe I'm
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: not sure who it was, but it was it was
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a pretty girl on the internet that knew she could
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: say that, and men would still basically give her money,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: which only shows that they're you know, massive simps. But
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: mostly people men are the ones that primarily call other
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: men's simps as a way of saying, guy, you have
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to have more self respect. That's essentially what it's saying,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: have some self respect, don't just you know, like what
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: you work for and your your worth. Your self worth
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is more than whatever it is you're throwing it at
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: usually like these women that aren't worth their time or money,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that's what. So, yeah, you you can. Of course, your
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: girlfriends have never said that, because why would they drive
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: away their meal ticket by calling them simps? Like that's risky.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: So anyway, Also.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm really reluctant to really listen to somebody
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: who has presented themselves like that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, like a burnt powerpuff girl left him in
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: the oven for too long a hair hat, all right,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: But anyway, we should listen to what she has to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: say because I think she's this is one of the
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: more interesting characters here. So but okay, let's.
• 43:21
  Speaker 13: Go for masculine man that's gonna come and save me
• 43:25
  Speaker 13: and be my night and shining armor.
• 43:27
  Speaker 14: Okay, romance books where there's a strong man. But is
• 43:30
  Speaker 14: that something that I actually want?
• 43:32
  Speaker 13: No, when I genuinely tend to think of like masculine men,
• 43:35
  Speaker 13: or like someone who's overtly extremely masculine, I think domestic
• 43:40
  Speaker 13: violence so I tend to actually like you.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: See, dude, idiot, idiot, man, Do you see what she's saying?
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Everything you said, she's taught to see in terms of
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: feminist patriarchy theory, right, masculine men and equals domestic violence?
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: What no?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: No?
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Like what the and and the thing is that she
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: sees it that way because she's associating masculinity manhood with
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the itoxic masculinity and the oppression narrative. That's what she's doing.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: And this guy who is talking about, oh, well, men
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be weak, they should protect, well, what do you
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: think she's referring to when you say you should protect
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and provide for your woman. She's literally spouting back at you.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: But that's patriarchal oppression, and that I'm guessing that nobody
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: ever engages with the fact that she is a demonstrating.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: She is demonstrating how men who are weak happen, men
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: who don't support a woman happen like that these other
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: men are upset about. Do you see how this is
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: just talking past each other?
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, Well, but that guy's not gonna like get
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: anything out of this because he's just gonna listen to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: whatever she says, and agree with her. I think let's see, maybe.
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: They'll argue and a nicer guy. But like one of
• 45:17
  Speaker 13: the guys here had said earlier, I think a lot
• 45:19
  Speaker 13: of guys say, oh, I'm nice, why don't I have
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: a girlfriend? If all you have to bring to the
• 45:26
  Speaker 13: table is the fact that you're nice and nothing else
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: outside of that, that's not enough for you to just like.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: What what are you asking for a person? I want
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: to bring to the table?
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Hey? Men, what do you bring to the table? You
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: should just I am the table. I am a table.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing, she says, Okay, well, nice guys
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: don't bring anything to the table. So what is a
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: man supposed to bring to the table? Can you articulate
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: that if not providing and protecting and the things that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: men do, Right, what is a man supposed to bring
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: to the table that isn't just being nice in your framework?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Because feminists say that providing and protecting is the source
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: of patriarchal oppression. You just said that, So what it?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: This is?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: This is?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: This causes me physical pain when I see women this
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: stupid and incapable of understanding what they're talking about. Right,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: why do we listen to this. If you cannot, if
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you not cannot coherently explain. But you know what, maybe
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: she does. I I I suspect she doesn't. I suspect
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: for going nowhere with this, but I'll shut up. Letter.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Let okay, let's let's keep going to nice guys.
• 46:45
  Speaker 14: I would hope that my partner would eventually.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Wait, let's go back a little bit. I want to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: see those guys'.
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: Faces and nothing else outside of that.
• 46:53
  Speaker 14: That's not enough for you.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: To just.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: This guy's head is down, like, oh my god, he's like.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: A man should protect and provide for his woman. And
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: she's like, that's patriarchal depressing. It's exactly what I said.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: It's it dude. You are probably six foot two, right,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: and he's built. You are occupying a completely different reality
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: than the average man, right, the average you can probably
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: float a little bit above the feminist bullshit, but the
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: average man ends up in the toxic masculinity trap like that,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: he can't actually provide and protect, He can't be a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: man for a woman because that's suppression and there's nothing
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: else left.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: What what?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: What is this woman underwater basket weaving? I want my
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: man to bring underwater basket weaving. I want him to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: bring an exceptional ability to play the xylophone, Like what
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: does she want that's specifically masculine that men can give
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: when you explicitly exclude the things that masculinity gifts.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't wonder where are single?
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, have a.
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: Relationship Like a lot I've talked to nice guys. I
• 48:18
  Speaker 13: would hope that my partner would eventually be a nice person.
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: But because you are nice, you are somehow below the
• 48:25
  Speaker 13: guys that are like pieces of I don't believe that.
• 48:27
  Speaker 13: I feel like the women that are attracted to that
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: are attracted to the trauma of it all. And if
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: you understand like how trauma plays in relationships, you'll understand that. Like,
• 48:36
  Speaker 13: if you're a nice girl, guy, look for a nice girl,
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: not a girl that's going that wants to go there
• 48:41
  Speaker 13: with you and.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I Okay, so she's now she's getting engaging in like
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: psycho talk, like psychological talk, not psycho, but a little
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: bit psycho probably, I mean like yeah, like not even acknowledging,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: like oh well, if they like these like shitty guys,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: it must it's it's like because they're they're just going
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: to drawn to trauma. No, they like the thrill and
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: the danger. They like, like they either want to be
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: with men who are high status and therefore like you know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: have a lot of money, have a really good job,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: will make them feel secure, give them whatever they want,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: or if they can't get that, then they want a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: man who could just kill other men, like basically has
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the ability or desire to do violence at her behest,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and that means that to some degree, she's got to
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: be around violence, but she'll accept it because she's like, well,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: this is what happens in the hood all the time.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: This is why I like the drug dealers and the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: gang bangers, you know, some of the highest ones that
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: are willing to like kill people and do violence or
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: even in like third world countries, those are the men
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: that will get women because if they can't make money,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: they can at least brutalize people and like destroy things,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and women will think, well, that guy will keep me
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: safe because he's like the biggest, baddest dude on the
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: block or whatever. So I mean, that's just I'm just
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: saying that's what women respond to. Like we we you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: what drives me nuts is we listen to a woman
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: say they want, but we have to ignore what they
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: actually respond to, like what they what do they actually what?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: The behavior says, they'll be like no, no, no, I
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be with a piece of shit guy.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: That's just and then she goes into her psychological therapeutic
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: shit that she read online instead of going, well, actually, yeah,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I do kind of like the drug dealers that will, like,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: you know, kill a motherfucker because he looked at him wrong,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: because then they'll do that for me, you know, I mean,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: that's just what it is. Like. I don't know why
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: we're just pussy footing around this fact. I've seen it, so.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Let's does she does she go anywhere sensible?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Let's find out.
• 50:47
  Speaker 13: I don't think it's true that nice guy is finished
• 50:49
  Speaker 13: last Again, I think a lot of guys frame themselves
• 50:52
  Speaker 13: as being nice guys and then they go, I.
• 50:55
  Speaker 14: Gave you food, why didn't you have sex with me?
• 50:57
  Speaker 14: It's like it's not really, it's not really like usually
• 51:01
  Speaker 14: I feel like in most cases it's just nice they okay.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: So basically what I'm hearing is masculine men are wrong.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Nice guys are wrong. But also tell you notice how
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: one side of this is all about what they want,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: and the other side is all about how to give
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: them what they want, you know, and what the obligation
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: should be placed on men. And this side is what
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: men should be giving them, no conversation about what they
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: give men and this particular woman I mean. And the
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: funny thing is is it's actually worse than that, because
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: so far I have not heard articulated a clear expectation
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: for men. I mean, it's one thing to put expectations
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: on men that you do not put on women. It's
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: another thing entirely to have completely contradictory self that expectations
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: placed on men, expectations that men feel ashamed to the
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: fact that they're men because they are the source of
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: patriarchal whatever. Right, all of these this this absolute fart
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: of expectations that you can't pin down at all. That
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: is not a coherent set of expectations. That's just a
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: randomly changing obstacle. Course, And honestly, what these women are
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: describing so far is just the inside of their own neurosis.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: This woman, I want a man who's got something going on,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: but not more than me. How about you just want
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: a companion if you don't want a man who's taking
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: care of you, then go for the companion, in which
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: case it doesn't matter if he's weak or nice or good.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: That's what you'd want. You want a companion because you're
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: not judging him on whether or not he can bust
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: a skull or make a billion in the stock market.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: You're judging him on how good, how sweet and gentle
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: and caring he is. Right, but that's not what she
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: wants either. This is what they're skirting around. And the
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: other thing is that at this point in time, there's
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: probably no reason to ask women what they want because
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: it's so distorted by all the bullshit they've been told
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that they have no idea what they want is so
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: fucked up and so incoherent as we can see. I mean,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: we've only gone to two of them, and we're already
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: at a point where nothing is clearly conveyed, right. So
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: it's a constant moving target, constant moving target, and it's
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: it's distorted by therapy speak, by feminist narrative, by all
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: of her girlfriends who are gonna pick at her if
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: she ever has a boyfriend, and they're gonna pick at
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: everything they can.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: You're gonna like judge her worth based on her choices,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: like with this man like a yeah, and she.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: If she has a if she has if she's on
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: social media, she's gonna be picked at the other hands
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: like it's all of this is so distorted at this
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: point that there is no clear signal coming off of
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: the women. I I mean, I didn't have much hope
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: for the the the two on the end at all.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I have a little bit of hope for the one
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: in the middle, maybe the one beside the blonde chick
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: is a feminist, I'm almost certain, but maybe a little
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: hope for the for the slightly tomboyish girl who sometimes
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: looks like she doesn't want to be there. But but
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not guessing. I'm guessing that.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: No Velma and written the orange sweater.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah you think that's yeah Velma? Is it the good
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: Velma or the bad Velma?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I don't remember, Look, I'm I won't, I won't. I
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: won't spoil anything.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: But oh okay, am I completely could be.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Bad mindy kling Velma, but not not as over the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: top as that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I just want to say one thing before
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: we continue. Try to find one clear standard right, that
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: isn't immediately contradicted. Okay, one clear standard, the one with
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: the long brown hair. She wants a successful man that's
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: not too successful and doesn't impact her success and also
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: values her success. Good luck with that. The blonde man
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: want girl does not want a nice guy, but does
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: not want a masculine man. Actually, you know what, why don't.
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: We do this?
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Make this even more simple and clear? Do these women
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: ever say what they want and what they don't instead
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: of what they don't want?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I won't. I won't give anything away, but
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: there is a good bit towards the end, and we'll
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: come back to that, Okay, And I will say it's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: all on the host a guy in the middle of
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: the moderator. But let's let's hear from hiding behind somewhere.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: But I would argue in the sense of like way
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: you stated that majority of the men that are quote
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: unquote feminine aren't looking to protect you in any way,
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: shape or form, in the sense that like, yeah, they
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: might in your opinion, like you might be traumatized from
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: qute unquote masculine men. But when you're in danger, who's
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: the first person that you called to come save you.
• 56:20
  Speaker 14: I call my blinky, so at least.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Her gun. She basically saying that she can protect herself.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre gave us five and says, imagine if this
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: woman actually encountered a genie that could grant wishes, what
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: would that conversation look like.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it looked like, but it would
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: end with some kind.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Of explosions had explode because it wouldn't be able to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: grant the wish. Okay, because it wouldn't be clear the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: wish wouldn't be made.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: And here's the ultimate conflict. This is what's hilarious. And
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: you'll notice this as you go through. Okay, I'm gonna
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: downgrade the one besides her. I don't think she's a feminist,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: but who knows. They probably all are.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: This is fun.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, this is gonna be gonna be hilarious.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: The women want something, right, they want a man to
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: bring something to the table, but they don't want to
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: need anything from a man. And that's the essential problem here.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: They want This woman wants stuff from men. She wants,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: but she does not want to want it. So the
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: moment where she actually describes something that she finds attractive,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: which I don't think she has and not in the negative.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: She can't do it because that means she's recognizing a want.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: So she doesn't want a nice guy. She doesn't want
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: a weak guy. She doesn't want a good guy, but
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: she doesn't want a masculine guy. She doesn't want a
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: man who protects. She doesn't want a man, and yet
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: she does because she's sitting there talking about this is
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: this is as if this is relevant to her, and
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: this is the essential problem. You can't fix this. Men
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: cannot fix this problem that women have. Right, they want
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: men to bring something, but they don't want to need
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: that thing that men bring. They don't want to want
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: that thing that men brings that men bring. Do you
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. Men have to bring something to
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: the table, but the table doesn't want doesn't want to
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: have to want the thing that men bring. And you
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: cannot resolve that. Like they're just sitting in this contradiction.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: And because they're like, for whatever reason, women are okay
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: with sitting in these kinds of contradictions. They don't resolve
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: it in any point, right, they just sit with this.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: I want a man who brings something to the table.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: But I don't want to have to want what he
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: brings to the table.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, goody. They want to be in a
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: state of like desiring but not needing, but like you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and also like being able to do it on their own,
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: but no it feeling comfort and knowing that there's someone
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: who can give it to them also like yeah, so
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I know, I get it. It's a it's a well,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: it's a product of women living in the absolute most abundant,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: most safe, most secure time in all of human history
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and taking it for granted. That that mean I don't know,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: like if if we, like you know, if we experience
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a massive collapse of society, women will maybe finally be like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: oh shit, I think we need those those what were
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: those things that we had around that we got rid
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: of and shamed for all those years? Men, I think
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: they're called I think we need those now, you know.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: It's like anyway, so yeah, let's uh, let's keep going station.
• 59:50
  Speaker 14: But I recently had to get it a gun.
• 59:54
  Speaker 13: I also throughout media, we see time and time again,
• 59:58
  Speaker 13: there was a little girl that was lee kidnapped in Arkansas,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 13: and she asked she was like thirteen years old, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 13: she asked the men, can you help me?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 14: Can you help me? She went to two different places.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 13: None of the men helped her in most situations. I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 13: actually don't feel like men are protectors.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: But the fuck are you talking about? Oh God, okay, no,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna start screeching, lady, you are so full
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: of shit, like this is exactly what I'm talking about.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: The instant that that man said, hey, you probably want
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: a man who can protect you. Who do you look for,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: She's like, no, I don't want that. I don't want
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: a weak man. I don't want a nice man. I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: don't want a man who could not not protect me
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: or not protect me, because that you know, But I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: don't want a man who could protect me. Or I
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: do want a man who could protect me, but I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: don't want to want a man who could protect me.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: You see this bullshit like this is bullshit. This is
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: absolute excremental bullshit. I don't know how she lives in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: her brain. But also she's full of shit. Men are
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: predominantly police, predominantly, at EMT, predominantly firefighters and first responders. Right,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: men are predominantly the ones who intervene when risk has
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: to happen. The reason why those men probably didn't help
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: her is because she's a thirteen year old girl and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: they're a man. Let's be honest, they help a strange
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: thirteen year old girl, and they could be utterly fucked.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Their entire life could be over just from helping a child.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: And that's the society that we've constructed, right, And this
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: anecdote is absolute bullshit. Hell, men spend more time policing
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: lesbian domestic violence than engaging in domestic violence against women,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: or at least are probably approximately the same. Think about that,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: the amount of time that lesbians engage in domestic violence
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: against each other, men spend policing it, and that that
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: is actually either equal to or more than the amount
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: of time that men engage in domestic violence against women.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Think about that. So men are not just protecting women
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: against fires, hurricanes, criminals, they're protecting lesbians against other lesbians,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: women from other women. And then she has the absolute
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: unmitigated bullshit gall to beak off about something she has
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: no clue about. And ye, honestly, I do not think
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at this without my green glasses. No,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: that blonde hair is doing nothing for her.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, No, No, it's a wig, it's a hair hat
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: they own.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 13: I don't genuinely feel like most men are just like, oh,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 13: I'm going to be a knight and shining armor.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 14: In fact, in most.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 13: Situations where I've had aggressive men speak to me in
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 13: aggressive ways, the people that have stood out to me
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 13: the most have gone like have been and they've been
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 13: women for me, like a sense of protection when men
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 13: are around.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 10: Do you think society promotes that though?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 11: Do you think the way that women, not not just women,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 11: but I guess society in a whole, they discourage men
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 11: from wanting to step in and protect and do all
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 11: these other things because you see so many I guess
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 11: downsides for when a guy steps in the way that
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 11: he does it or the way that he's protected somebody,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 11: society is blaming him for, you know, doing it in
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: an incorrect way or whatever it may be. But also
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 11: kind of shines Yeah.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Like Daniel Penny, like so many men who have stepped
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: up and then they've gotten arrested or or women will
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you know, they get accused of something like what if
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: there was a twelve year old girl and some man
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: like rescued her, Like what if like he gets accused
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: of something too. I don't buy her story personally, but
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: and even if that was something that actually happened, like
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: it could be framed by the media and whatever way.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many times have you seen what was
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: it the Dark Knight shooting. Do you guys remember the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Daniel Penny? I know I said that Black raptor, So
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: do you guys remember the Dark Knight shooting? Like when
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: they had like they were showing I think it was
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Dark Knight Rises and this guy with green hair shot
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: up the theater and you know, uh, I guess, like
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: you know, he killed a bunch of people before he
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: was finally subdued by men who were in the theater,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: and the media was basically saying why didn't they why?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Like essentially, they were still saying the men in the
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: theater were not heroic enough, even though he was ultimately
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: stopped by men, like and it was like they didn't
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: act quickly enough because there were women that got shot, essentially,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: and that was like the problem. So I'm not saying
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: that men are legitimately going, well, I remember that incident
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: that happened, and I'm not gonna step up, but like
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: it's you know, why why would men risk themselves for
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: strangers when it's not at all, it's not even acknowledged
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: as a positive, like there's no encouragement to do anything,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and so men aren't doing anything, like they just get
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: accused of shit like they and they or they get
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: shit on so it's like whatever.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: The answer is that it's an instinct. So when men
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: don't have the ability to think, like they don't have
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: the time to think cerebrally about an intervention, they probably
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: intervene because it's instinctual. It's what men do. They protect
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: their social group. And this this woman is absolutely full
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: of shit, but but she has the most important data
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: of them all. She feels she feels like men aren't
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: safe but all. And the thing is that she's sort
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: of buying into her framing by saying, well, well, do
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: you think that you know, maybe the messaging makes men
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: not want to do this, which is a very valid point,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: but it also buys into her framing. A simpler question
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: would be if a mugger attempts to steal your purse
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: and your partner expects you to handle it just steps
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: back and you know, gets the popcorn and says, hey,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: you're on my strong independent woman what would you think
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: of him? Is that the kind of man you would
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: want to be with? Right, And that would cut through
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: all of her bullshit because the real thing is that
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: she does want that, She just doesn't want to want that.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: And that is the problem with women today and why
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: you will never get a coherent answer from any of them,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: right because they don't they because they've been told by
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: feminists that wanting the things that men do is the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: ultimate being cheated, right, because that that is the source
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: of all of the ways that men get something out
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: of them, Like men sacrificing for them is somehow men
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: getting something out of them. You know, men men taking
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the bullet for them. Well, that's just men taking the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: bullet that they could have took for themselves.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: This is the framework that they're given by feminism. So
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: when they want a man to do manly things, they can't.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: They hate wanting it. And that's what you're dealing with here,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: and you cannot pair bond to this nonsense. You can't.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: All these women are demonstrating is that they are not
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: They don't have the qualities necessary to be a wife
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: or a partner. That's all that this is. It's a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: bunch of men saying, well, what do we do to
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: be good husbands and fathers? And a bunch of women
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: saying we don't want We don't want to want you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: because because functionally we are not good mothers and wives.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: You got one side who wants to step up and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: the other side that is constantly stepping back, stepping down,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: running away, fleeing because they've been told that wanting a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: man is the source of their oppression. Good Like I said,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: good luck wifing that shit up. Okay, all right.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 11: The light on that is the times that you do
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 11: see when people call, like you know, domestic violence situations,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 11: those like, yeah, that guy's a many at testosterone. He's
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 11: you know, probably physically stronger than at those people. That
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 11: doesn't mean he's a strong man, Like that's a weak
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 11: dude that's sitting there causing violence and trauma on to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: certain people. But when you see a lot of these,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 11: a lot of society discourage men from being in I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 11: guess that traditional role of being a protector. That's probably
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 11: why you see a lot of people not a lot
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 11: of wow, because they are discouraged.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 12: To do so.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: And that I take back the idiot comment. He's growing
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: towards something. Let him cook. All right, see what the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: other one's.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 14: Going to get back to my point.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 13: That is a weak mindset in my in my opinion,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 13: if you feel like you are a protector, no matter
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 13: who's saying the society of society is telling you, oh,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 13: you protected wrong, it wouldn't matter if your values were
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 13: like in the fact that like you wanted.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 14: To like protect people. I don't think society should have
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 14: a way of shame.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, all.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Right, we like lock up society because society seems to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: be causing a lot of problems for people. Like whenever
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: we get close to like looking at something real, society
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: steps in and takes credit.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: I guess you know. We gotta do. We gotta put
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: society through some management training or maybe some therapy sessions.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Can somebody find me society so we can have give
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: them a good stern talking to about what they're doing
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: to women in this world, what they're doing to people.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So somebody gets society on the phone.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This is why I'm always clear and I say government, Yeah,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about a specific behavior with a paper trail.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about society. But this woman, yeah, just oh,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: so I think that men aren't protective, and I think
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: it's weak minded to say that there are certain men
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: that don't protect. So him saying that men who engage
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: in domestic violence are weak is weak minded, according to her,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: because he should take responsibility for every instance that men
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: fail women, even though men do take responsibility for men
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: failing women. That's what police are for, and prosecutors and jails,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: which we wouldn't have without men. Okay, So, and we
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: wouldn't even be able to jail violent lesbians without men.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: So there you go. It doesn't It doesn't matter if
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: the the the domestic violence, the person engaging in it
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: is male or female. It's men who are making sure
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: that they stop in whatever way that they can. So
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: I don't like, how do you Okay, let's let's hear
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: what she has to say. I despair of a thought
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: that's coherent, but not.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 14: Believing in what you believe in.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 13: Because if if you are able to be like maneuvered
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 13: by society in a way like that, I don't think
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 13: that's a deep core value that's how you have. That's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 13: like something instead people told you you were people told
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 13: you you were a provider, and you built that mindset,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 13: and then you had a few women that were like,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 13: I don't actually want you to protect me, and now
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 13: you're going, oh yeah, I'll just let the woman on
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 13: the subway gets stabbed, like I don't know.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 15: It's just like if you what, wait a minute, wait
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 15: a minute, I have something for that hold on boy
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 15: that escalated quickly.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I mean that really got out of hand fast.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 16: Man.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Man says, uh, society, society, doctor Society told him be,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: you know, be a provider, protector. He goes to do it.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: A woman says, I don't need that. Another woman gets
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: stabbed on the subway and the man does nothing.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: It's my brain trying to follow this woman's logic. I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: think that I think literally what her logical.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Her logic is like the mind cart levels and Donkey
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Kong Country, which are notoriously difficult, but anyway, I think
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I think literally.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Her logic is incompletely emotional. It is simply reject the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: man at every available opportunity, anything a man says, reject it,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: reject men, reject men, reject men here, reject man over there,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: rejectment up, reject men down, reject men on the vertical
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: and the horizontal reject men and belize reject men in Antarctica.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Just reject men. That's what she everything is about, rejecting men.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Everything out of her mouth is rejecting men. She is
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: displaying the rejection of men because she has bought into
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: the narrative that her social worth revolves around rejecting men.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Like that's what it all comes down to. As everything
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: she's doing, there's no coherence in this. She's like, I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: reject men when they're they don't take responsibility for protecting me.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: But I also even doubly reject men when they do
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: take responsibility for rejecting me. And I also reject the
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: idea that men even want to take responsibility for rejecting me,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: and I reject the idea that weak men don't don't
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: take responsibility for It's like everything just comes back to
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: that one action. She's just basically like she's just basically gagging,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: like rejecting, constantly gagging up men. That's all she does,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: not down up the wrong kind of gagging.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I think I think we can.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I think the even though the other two questions are
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: are the second one is longer, women's body count doesn't
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: matter or well. Women's body count matters, I think is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: what it is. And then there's or matters more than men's,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: and then there's dating apps are not for dating. But
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: this first one has the most meat on it. So
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: maybe we can just go through this bit and then
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I'll jump to the end where it gets to the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: bit that I like, you know, I think it's about
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: an hour.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: When can we hear what those other women say?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: I know we're gonna play the rest of this is
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I think the other women are. This
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: woman talks the most, so but anyway, let's go as
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: yeah and says the least.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 14: Like actually felt away about that.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 13: It wouldn't matter who, It wouldn't matter if my mom,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 13: it wouldn't matter if God said something. If you truly
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 13: felt that way, your behavior wouldn't change. If your behavior
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 13: changs is based on societal like circumstances.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: I mean women, what women are saying. So if a
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: man changes to what women want him to do, that's
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: a bad man. But here I have a question, lady,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: what if men don't change to what women want them
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: to be? Does that not also make them bad? Everything
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: just always lands back on what reject men. You notice that. Okay,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: that's her emotional logic. There's no there's no actual coherent
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: like actual logic to what she's saying. Her emotional logic
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: just always lands back on it feels good to reject men.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm gonna do.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 14: My core value I do.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: I give what you're saying, and I do agree like
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: in the same and creating correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: Where like if you think you're a protector, right and
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 6: you see something going wrong, like if that's your value,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: you should protect, you don't see if.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: You're a protector, this is something you do. Oh if
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: this is not men are not like this guy isn't
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: even just do these men have a male experience. I'm
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: not talking about the dude that's more grounded or the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: two dudes on the right. Do they like everything is performance?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: You determine you Oh, I see myself as a protector,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: therefore I should it's an action. Do you see the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: difference to what I'm saying.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Brian's no, I know it's not something you say you do.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: It's something that you do or you don't do, yes,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: or it doesn't. The thing is, I think this guy
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: feels like he owes this woman an explanation, and he's
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: like giving them one, or he's trying to speak their language,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: which probably is more in the performance arena instead of
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: just like you know, demonstrating it like.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know the same side of that coin to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: what they were saying. Like you see it all the
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: time on social media, a little tiktoks and like girl
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: dropper purse, drop her wallet, the dude picked up and
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: he goes to give it to I have a boyfriend,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: and then it's like it's like, dude, like what, Like,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: I'm just trying to help you.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 7: So it's like the media and stuff portrays that a lot.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 6: So I'm not saying like I'm not saying like I'm
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 6: just saying it's like you know what I'm saying, like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: some people could get okay just like yo, like I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 6: want to help you, but it's like, you know, they've
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: seen so much of the media where it's like, well,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: if I go to help it, it's gonna instantly backfire
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: me like that prime example. But trying to give the
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 6: wallet I have a boyfriend, It's like I'm not trying
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: to holler at you. I'm just trying to give your
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: wallet that you dropped, like I could have robbed you.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Ran off with your cash. But we're trying to do
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: the right thing.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 9: We can talk about it, but first we need to
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 9: get there first statements.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it mus also kind of bring it back
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: to the prompt itself, right, I mean, this is great.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were way off on the prompt there. They
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: were talking about all this other shit but not unrelated.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they got off the off topic.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: I just want to say, men are adorable. I was
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: looking over here.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: We were just told we shouldn't be glazing them on
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the on the stream, but yeah, I mean I.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Am, I'm glazing them someone like that. That guy's he
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: had a sensible thing to say, and you're right, he
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: probably was trying to say it in her language. And no,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: I mean aside from the one in plaid, No, they're
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: two in plaid. The one in the center like mister creepy,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: the three on the on the far left. You know,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: they seem pretty adorable.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I like how.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Composed the one in the middle is. He's just like,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm bringing my best intellectual.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: I think he's trying to be he's I think the
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: guy in the black, the white dude in the black. Yeah,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: well I think he was raised right, but I mean
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: that's like at least to some degree, like he had
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: a dad anyway.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: After that, Right, So let's get yours and yours and
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: then it's all you guys.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: Oh no, I I disagree because I think, you know,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 5: like kind of like what you were saying, like there's
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: a difference between good and weak. I want I want
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 5: a nice guy. I want a good guy, you know,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: I want that. I want that quality, but they have
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: to be able to They can't just be so passive,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: you know, they can't just It's kind of like the
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 5: idea of like, oh, they're put on a pedestal, but
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: what are you providing? You know, It's like, great, put
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: me on a pedestal, but let me also put you
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 5: on a pedestal. Match my energy, Like, let's put each
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 5: other on a pedestal and build each other up. But
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: I think, you know, there's a vast majority of women,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: myself included that, like, you know, good guys want to
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: be treated well, but also want like a man that's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: going to meet their energy. Like I'm a strong woman.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: I need someone that's going to match that.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: So I do red flag, I have a strong woman. Yeah, Alison,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: For the record, they're all feminists because they're just modern
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: women and modern women are feminists. Like there's there is
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: no distinction that just that it's just you know, if
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you're if you're a woman and you're like modern and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: you're on the internet, you're a feminist. Most likely, like
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: very few of them are not. So strong woman, strong
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: woman alert. I need like a thing that I can
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: like make the light that strong woman blink on the
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: screen with like sirens strong woman alert.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: But it's hilarious, is okay, Let's let's keep let it,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: let her finish. I just want to put something out.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: Like feminine femininity and men. I think that's a wonderful
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: pat There needs to be a balance, just like within neither.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: Oh god, do you see.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think that she's a very large woman.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: Oh no, she's she's a little bit chunky. She's chunky.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I want a man to meet my energy.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: Lady.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: You realize, you realize that ninety five percent.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: Of men.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Could probably outrun you. I don't want to say ninety
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: five percent of men could lift you, but they could
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: probably outrun you. I think that you don't have a problem.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Most women do not have a problem finding a man
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: who can meet their energy as long well they do
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: today because men are told that their energy is wrong, right,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: But all of the guys on that other side, they
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: could meet or exceed her energy, no, massively exceed her energy.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what the hell she means, but
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want a man who meets my energy. Yeah,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: that's most men. Like most men are going to be
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot stronger and more energetic than
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: you are.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I think she means like not physical, but more like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: you know, ambition like her, Like she's claiming to be ambitious,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: which is easy to do if you're getting, like if
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: you get these bullshit jobs that they just give to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: women thanks to DEI hiring practices. So like, if you
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: just get a job at a tech company, you know,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: going to meetings and eating avocado toast all day, then
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be like thinking that you're the shit, and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, well, I gotta find a man
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: that matches that. Meanwhile, men actually have to work hard
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: to get a job that's like pays half as much.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: So it's almost like that the job market just like
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: exists to sabotage potential relationships because women are looking for
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: men they think first of all that they got that
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: job completely on their own, and then on top of that,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: they're looking for men that also got that job or
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: a better job actually on their own as well. So
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: and men are just they're just not getting that work
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: because they're not like the schools aren't taking care of them,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: colleges aren't taking care of them. So they end up,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: you know, and of course on the job, they're constantly
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: at risk of losing it for one reason or another.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe some kick didn't like the way he looked at
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: her and went to human resources. So you know, it's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: like the deck is stacked against them in that way.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: And the only thing that could fix it is if
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: women said, wait a minute, maybe I'm not supposed to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: have this job like this. Like this job either I'm
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: not supposed to have it because I didn't get it
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: on merite, because I got it because of some quota
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: I was meeting. Or I'm okay with making more than
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I'm okay with that because we'll just
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: use that to build her own thing or whatever. You know.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, what I was going to say is this. This
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: is also her navigating what is socially expected. Like all
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: of these women are not just not talking purely from
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: what they desire, they're talking for in terms of their
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: status with other women in the Sisterhood. So when she
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: says I want a man who meets my energy, what
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: she probably means is she wants a man who's going
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: to throw her around during sex right, who's dominant in
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: other ways. But she can't say that because she's not
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: allowed the Sisterhood does not allow her to. I meant
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: that this is a little bit of hard perblely but
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: is dominant. The sister who does not allow her to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: do that. So she says and said, I want a
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: man who's going to meet my dominant energy. I want
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: an equal.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: This is not like.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: That's if she's not saying she just wants a man
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: to tolerate her bullshit. This might be a negotiation between
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: what she actually wants and what she has to say
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: to appease the Sisterhood because she's walking on eggshells and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to be excluded from the company of
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: other women. That makes sense, So she doesn't actually want
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: a man to meet her energy. She's saying that she
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: is the energy that she wants from men, and she's
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: gonna say she already has it because if she prames
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: it as equality, then it becomes acceptable to want. It's
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: like this constant negotiation. These women have this constant negotiation
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: between the expectations from the sisterhood that they not want
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: men and what they actually want from men. Do you
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: get what I'm saying?
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, okay, okay needs to be a balance of
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: my femininity and masculine qualities as well too. So it's
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: all about.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 10: As pretending to the proof.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: Now she's talking about a man matching her feminine energy.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: We also she's talking about balance man, because that's like
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the that's what matters, the balance, balancing the masculine and
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: feminine energy. Of course, she'll be the one that decides
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: whether or not the man is balancing it. So it's
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: like it's not an arbitrary like standard, it's her standard,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: so whatever that is, you know. But okay, let's look
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: at Velma here.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 10: I feel like this is just me personally.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 16: I don't know if they agree with this, but if
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 16: I if I see you and I'm personally attracted to you,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 16: you could be the person in the world, or you
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 16: could be the best person in the world as long
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 16: as I have that like attraction to you and you
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 16: don't send up, no, we should be cool.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: And then I also feel like it's just a certain
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 10: level of like masculinity.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 16: It's the difference between being comfortable in your masculinity and
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 16: feeling like very toxic in it.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 10: It's where you feel like you have to be this
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: certain person.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: Can I understanding this correctly? It doesn't matter if the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: man isn't as hole as long as she gets the tingles.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: And also he should have be comfortable in his masculinity
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: but not toxic. Oh good lord.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, here are a series of contradictions and paradoxes that
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: I want from men. Oh man, gen Z is so cooked. Guys,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: they're cooked, But I can't.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I appreciated her honesty, like, no, I know, but.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: She doesn't think that what she's saying is irrational or
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: unreasonable at all. She's just like, here's a whole bunch
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: of shit that's nonsense that I expect. And I just thought, like,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: why can't you just give me this? It's so simple.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: Here's a conundrum wrapped in a paradox. Be that I want,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: but I don't want just to just be a collapsing
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: fourth dimensional geometric straight guys, that's all you gotta do. Bro,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: so sick yea testa rat, Bro. No, gen Z men
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: are cooked too because they can't get with gen Z women. Dude,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're not that, you know, like
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: I get that gen Z men are actually more base
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: than previous generations, but they have to deal with these women.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: So that's a problem.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I'm curious about the men are responding to this now.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know they're probably trying to like
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: decipher what's going on, Like, let me get my it
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: was my decoder ring out and figure out what she's saying.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 7: But okay, look at you as you're weak.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 10: Or this, that and the third.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 16: Like honestly, like me personally, I do want to masculine man.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 16: I want a man to sit there. I want to
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 16: be led as a woman. I feel like my job
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 16: as a woman is to be led, not to be controlled.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 16: But if you're telling me I'm doing this for your
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna at least take a step back and be like, Okay,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 16: is he doing this for my good? Does he even
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 16: have the qualities to lead me? Is he even able
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 16: to be put in that position? So when we talk
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 16: about all these nice guys, it's like, like you said,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 16: the difference between nice and weak, It's like, are you
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 16: are you just doing this as a tactic of control?
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: Are you doing this because you really want to see me? Shaw?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 10: You really want to see me?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: Girls?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 9: There's something I want to see what you guys thought of?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the question, lady, all right, if you if
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: you can, you do you have? Do you understand? Okay,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: So a man should lead but not be controlling. That's
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: a really fine line.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: I actually, but only if she trusts she doesn't have
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: the ability to give trust though.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the problem.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Allowing a man to lead is a risk to women.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: But but she's not willing to take a risk.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And then and I would say that the reason
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: why she's not willing to take a risk is in
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: her in her language right there, toxic masculinity, right if
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: she actually, like I mean, of all of them, I
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: think that she might be the least problem.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: And that is not saying, probably the most grounded for
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: a woman.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's not saying, but she's still.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: Asking her paradoxical shit. I think that I think that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: what what I believe it is is it is that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: this conflict of like what they're told that they that
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: they should want and then what they actually want. Yeah,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: and those things are contradictions. Like they're like they're fighting
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: the battling the feminist narrative about men and then their impulses.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, they're like their biology and those things
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: are at odds. Does that make sense? Am I wrong?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's what I've been saying, Like that they're
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: they have they have to frame everything in terms. They're
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: hedging with the sisterhood, with everything, like the one in
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: the middle is hedging with the sisterhood when she says
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: I want a man who matches my energy, and then
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: she mumbles something about femininity, and I think that what
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: she means is I am going to say that I'm
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: strong and dominant. I want a man who matches that
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: energy because i just want a strong and dominant man
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: and I'm not allowed to And the woman in there
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: is like, I want a man to lead me and
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: I want to submit, but I'm not allowed to want that.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, well, only if he's not toxically
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: masculine or controlling, so he's they're both like they're tithing
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: to feminism, the feminism in the room. You gotta look
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: at these women and just imagine a gigantic, bitchy female
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: giant leaning over them saying, you better say what I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: tell you to say right there.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: If the man is leading based on her like whims,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: then he's not leading. She is. And I think that
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: on a gut level, women will sense that something about
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: this is wrong, even though they're getting what they want.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but but again, they are, like you said, they
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: are trying to negotiate between what they want and what
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: the sister They think that well, they they know that
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 2: the sisterhood wants them to say. And that's why it's
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: almost impossible to make a connection to this, because the
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Sisterhood does not want them to have a partnership. The
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: Sisterhood wants them to think that the worst thing they
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: can do is want men. So somehow they want things
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: from men, but they don't want to want those things,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: which is functionally impossible. And that's why everything they say
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: is contradictory, immediately contradicted, immediately qualified. And and like I said,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: I'm oh, gosh, that guy, the Indian guy is grinning
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: his ass off. Actually, the two of them are like.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: The one in the middle probably is just thinking, oh,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: how do I make myself the how do I increase?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: At this point, the host interrupted, so I might be
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: reacting to him, all right, whether the modern nova fan
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: gave us a rumble rant and said, whenever I hear
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: a woman say a man needs to match her energy,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: lead but not control, et cetera, it's all code for
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: spoil me without telling me you want?
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 9: You want?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: I want? What without telling me you want? I want? Okay,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I just read it. I mean, I think I know
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: what you're saying, but you're saying spoil me without telling
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: me what you want. Maybe all right, But anyway, so, uh,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: we've gone for about an hour and a half. I
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: think that i'd like to get to the good bit
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: unless you want to hear what the moderator says.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Sure, let's hear what the moderator says. So the ken
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: don't say anything interesting to all this nonsense.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: Let's see, sounds like my understanding of looking into it,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: it comes down to like presentable value. So like if
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: he's in a relationship with you, and he's like putting
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: you all the time, Number one, I love you, beautiful,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: all this all the time, not really anything about him.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: They say that that would be him projecting that he
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: has no value, like you have all the value.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 9: No, if I'm not saying you actually but you know
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 9: what I'm saying. So it's like, and what men are women?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how gracious he is. He actually is
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: aware of the fact that he might be reducing that
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: guy's value. Do you notice that? So there's no like
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: he's not creating a hierarchy with him on top, or
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: he's trying to that is actually really gracious.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: What he just did.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's because he's the moderator or
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: like this this dude is the one in the what
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: is that the greenish dark gray plaid not the white plaid.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, I'm going to compete with all the men,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: and this dude is like, no, I'm going to make
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: sure that I don't reduce your status relative to me.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: See the difference, Like, okay, just interesting, just something I noticed.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: It is too much of that validation. And I also
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: write it's because people think that we want love, but
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: what we really want is reward, so like it would
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: hit a lot harder like a slot machine. If you
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: lose every time, then you win if you're really good.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: If that person's terrible to you most of the time,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: are not available most of the time, but then they are,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: it hits.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: That's what I was talking about.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 9: I'm really looking for at least you know I actually I.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Talked about that with but in the past, where if
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: you're like a, if you're like a nice guy, then
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: people expect you to be a nice guy. So if
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: you have like an off day, you're like extra shit
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: to them because they're accustomed, they're spoiled by your good behavior.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: But if you're someone who generally doesn't have good behavior
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: and then one day you're nice, then that like is
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: like whoa, Like suddenly it's like a big deal. It's
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: because we don't we don't take the time to like
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: constantly remind ourselves that people you know, like that, I
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: don't know, like every every good deed should be a
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: knowledged no matter how many times it happens, because you
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: know so that you don't take it for granted. And
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: also when when someone who is bad normally and does
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: something good, that should also be acknowledged because maybe it'll
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: encourage them to continue that behavior. So but anyway, I'm sorry, Alison,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: what were we gonna say I talked over you.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that that guy's really that is
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: a that is an unconscious green flag. He not only
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: reduced the potential threats, uh, status threat. I think he
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: also identified the man that is more difficult with, like
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: more difficult to deal with in terms of status, and
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: preferentially like that's actually that's an interesting quality. That's uh,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: that's genuine leadership there. Of course he's also the moderator,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: so that might be it as well. Yeah, no, I'm
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: just saying it's interesting, like it's it's an interesting contrast
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: between the one guy is like I'm gonna compete with
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: all the other men and put them down single yeah,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: and and the moderators guy who noticed that accommodated it.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: And when he engaged in something that this dude is
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: more more apparently more anxious about his status, might have
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: perceived as lowering his status, he actually addressed it preferentially.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: That's that's very aware, Like it's it's the it's the
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: way that men navigate status and well a competent like
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: leader who is male, na navigates issues of status. So
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: I've just I found that interesting. Not gonna be remarked
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: upon by anyone, no doubt. But because these women don't
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: know what the fuck they're looking at, that's the problem.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: Like you listen to these women, they don't know how
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: to judge men. They don't know how to judge what
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: is a good man. They don't know how to judge
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: what is a bad man? Like I mean, I'll go
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: back to that one thing that happened like years and
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: years ago, the Russian Deadpool Brian Oh Yeah, where independently
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: me and Karen both recognized that this dude, Russian Deadpool
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: was bad news, serious bad news, and we did not
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: want to be around him, because we were invited by
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: other people to go on panels with him, and we'd
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: already been once and I wasn't. I'd never spoken to
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: Karen about this man, or at least not much, and
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: she had never spoken to me, and independently we both
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: said we don't want to have anything to do with him.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: And then a week later or even days later, he
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: shoots this one of his two Harem girls in a
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: parking lot because she tried to leave him. And it's like,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: you can tell when men are bad, right, and a
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: woman is perfectly capable of telling this stuff. Those women
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: don't know what they want. They don't know how to
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: identify a bad man or not even a bad man,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: or just a man who's incapable of actually being in
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: a relationship with them, because they don't. They don't, they don't,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: they're not given the tools. Feminism says that it gives
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: women the tools to identify bad men, but it doesn't
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: guess that guy who shot his girlfriend in the part
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: he was a feminist. They were all feminists. Feminism doesn't
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: give women the tools to do anything. All it does.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: All it does give women the tools to do is
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: reject men to the point where the only men they
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: don't reject are toxic. And then they all complain that
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: all men are like this. Yes, because you buy into
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: a framework that filters out every man who doesn't induce
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: fomo in you, and the men who are going to
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: induce fomo in you are going to be sociopath adjacent. Okay,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: I will continue.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Let's continue, all right, unhealed and immature people, which is
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: a lot of the population, regardless of the age.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 9: What do you guys think about that?
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 10: I agree with that.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 8: Thank bild you just said sorry, okay, you just said
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 8: something really interesting. You said people want to reward. Well,
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 8: usually reward always comes after challenge. So I think what
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 8: really people want is they always want a challenge, but
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 8: not an impossible challenge, but one that they know they
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 8: can overcome. So I think a good partner does that.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 8: They challenge you. They challenge you to get better about
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 8: your mental and physical health. They challenge you to get
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 8: better about, you know, building a family. They want you
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 8: to challenge you about getting better okay, building something you
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 8: can pass on to your kids. So I think that's
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 8: really what people want. And so, like kind of going
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 8: back to what we're talking about putting somebody on a pedestal,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 8: When you put her on a pedestal, like you said,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: it doesn't challenge you at all. So that's why you
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 8: get bored. Like, look at people who don't have any
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 8: challenges in their life. You know, kids that the trust Fund,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 8: kids that grow up would have everything handed to them.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 8: They end up just going through life doing nothing productive.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: A woman all right, Okay, I'm gonna say something to
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: this because I actually have something that's against the counter.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I think that both do. That's why Christians say no
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: extramarital sex.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by both do?
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: I think of both a man's body count does and
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: a woman's body count does.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we don't have to go through this one, okay,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: And I think it does. But I think that women
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: have a lot more opportunity than men. So what women's
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: body counts are. They tend to be higher than men's,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: like by a lot, because if if most women are
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: rejecting most men just like a phone number or a date,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: then they're definitely not getting like laid. But women have
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: a lot more opportunity, especially because of dating apps and everything.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: So the I think that, yes, I think that a
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: high body count can negatively impact people, regardless of their sex.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: We women have a lot more opportunity, so their body
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: counts tend to be much much higher because they're they're
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: they're just they have more access, like it's just easy
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: With men. Actually, I won't go into it, but it's
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: the way that people can are conducting their lives now
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: is actually impedes a pair of the formation of para
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: bond bonding, and I as a result of my endocrine studies,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: I have concluded that the single best form of courtship
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: is the standard Christian courtship. I know this sounds really weird.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: They've they've somehow intuited the precise way to create the
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: strongest pair bond and among other things. Because I would
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: say that they're being sneaky and kinky, but but I
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: won't get into it. Uh, in a very wholesome way.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: They're being sneaky in a wholesome way. But yes, the
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: Christian courtship is the best courtship to create a pair bond.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: It's better than arranged marriages, which is the usual pattern
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: in more traditional cultures. So it's in a it's interesting
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: how it all fell out, and it comes right out
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: of the biology of para bonding and how men and
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: women's endercrine structures are are arranged. So it's it's just fascinating.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: But I won't go any into it because I'm not
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm not gonna spurge all of spurge sperg all
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: over you. Spurge, spurge and.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: Spurg Yeah, I didn't look when we don't have to
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: like listen to any of this stuff. But a lot
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: of the women kind of like they kind of expose
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: themselves as having a pretty high body count because they're
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: so upset by the fact that it matters. But the
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: thing is, it's it's two things. Well, yes, I think
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: a high body count can affect the individual in terms
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: of their ability to pair bond, But when it comes
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: to their their value, I think women's value is lowered
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: by a high bodyc count, but men's value is raised
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: because when a woman sees a man is getting a
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: lot of other women, she sees him as like a prize. Right, Oh,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: he's doing really well with women. I'll make my girlfriends
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: jealous with this guy. So and it's it's not it's
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: got more to do not so much with the behavior
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: of the person with the body count, but the response
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: by the opposite set. Yes, when men's respond to a
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: woman with a high BodyCount as ooh, she's probably got diseases,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: she's a little too loose, she might cheat on me,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: like whatever, right, she's she's treating this as very casual.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of that. Women see it as oh,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: that guy conquers a lot. You know, he's doing really well,
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: but he's he hasn't found the one. Maybe I'm the one, right, Like,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: there's like a different perspective on it. So I think
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: that there's two ways to look at it. But I
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: think in general, for good psychological and sexual health, it's
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: probably better if you have a low body count, regardless
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: of your sex. Yeah, could very least so that you
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: you don't get a disease like me at the very least.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: So okay, let's let's go to your last bit that
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: you thought was really fun.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: So let's go. Yeah, that's about fifty nine minutes. So
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: it's like over here, you're fifty eight minutes. I'm gonna
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: try and find it. Okay, here we go this. I
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: thought this was pretty good.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 9: Everything, right.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: That being said, if you haven't paid attention yet, if
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: you want to learn how to find someone in your
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: single right now, both sides have pretty much laid down
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: exactly what the opposite sex thinks. So you could take
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: this and counterpoint could be the result of your future
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: happy relationship.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, but that being said, dude, my dude, as much
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: as I appreciate your instinctive, you know, I don't want
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: to say alphanus, but you know, being a good leader,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: what these women said was incoherent, and the honest to
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: God truth is it really had nothing to do with
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: what they desire because they have the Sisterhood in the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: room with them that insists that they can't want what
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: they want, like that that's not acceptable. It's not acceptable
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: to want men. That is not acceptable. That's what the
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: sisterhood is telling them. So they're constantly hedging and contradicting
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: themselves and producing nonsense and living in that headspace where
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: the sister who approves of them if they reject men.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: So they say a lot of bullshit and it's like, well, nothing,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: nothing actionable has come from the right side. It's all incoherent,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: and the men are just there and they're like, well
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: what should they and even just asking what standard do
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: we need to live up to and maybe if we
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: live up to that standard, you should tell us that
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: this is this, that we have at least lived up
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: to the standard and not say that we have to
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: live up to the standard and then complain about living
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: it up to Even that is not sufficient, Like these
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: men are there to live up to a standard. They
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: just want a clear standard and they want the feedback clear.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: But they're they're they're stepping up and they're saying, okay,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: give us a standard to live up to. And the
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: women are like, well, I want you to be masculine,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: but I don't want you to be masculine. I want
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: you to ben, I want you to be leading, but
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to be controlling. And the difference
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: is toxic masculinity. So what's toxic masculinity. Well, it just
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: seems to be masculinity. So don't be masculine, but also
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: be masculine. So go back to part one. And I
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 2: want you to match my energy, but that I don't
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: really know what that means. And also I want you
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: to have something going on, but not so much that
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: interferes with what I have going on, and you supporting that,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: And it's like endless, endless, endless back and forth contradiction
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: because literally they have been taught by the Sisterhood that
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: they are not allowed to want men, and they are
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: trying desperately in everything they say to square that circle,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: which means everything that comes out of their mouth is incoherent. Ladies,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: you can either pair bond to the Sisterhood who doesn't
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: give a fuck about you. Yep, maybe to backhand you
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: if you disagree or you compare themond to men, and
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: men are far more adorable.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's listen to that. This is this
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the bit?
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 9: So anybody comfort with that? Okay, okay, why do you
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 9: think you're single?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 10: I think I'm single.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: So now he's asking them, why do you think you're single?
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great, great question.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, this is a great question because this
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: did well, We'll just let them answer. So first we
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: go to, uh, this chick that's clearly covered in tattoos,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: and it's trying to cover it up but not too
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: much because she wants people to know she has tattoos.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: One.
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  Speaker 12: I was very career focused for a long time, but
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 12: now that I have built that, I've been learning how
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 12: to kind of manage my time better. And I haven't
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 12: had the opportunity to give that a chance. But I
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 12: think managing my time has been a real focus in
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 12: this healing year that I've been doing.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: It doesn't explain why you're single, but no, I know,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: I know she's healing, Alison, She's healing from what doing
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: a career.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't have done that then.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm assuming some some one night stand that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: didn't go the way she wanted.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: He's, uh, she's she's really deep in the therapy speak.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: But okay, continue, Yeah.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 12: Weird hobbies. My house is very like Victorian type of style.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 12: I work at a thrift store.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: I have very odd that your career.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait career. She worked in the focused on
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: her thrift store career.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: You work at a thrift store and that's your career,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: not you own the thrift store you work at.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but okay, let's keep going.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 12: Okay, so I will say I'm have weird hobbies first first, so.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: She thinks she's saying because she has weird hobbies and
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: because she's been working nothing about like nothing that's sort
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: of self reflective, like, oh, these are some things I
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: need to work on for myself. All right, now, let's
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: get to.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, this is gonna be a treat, isn't it.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let's get to Barbie Bad Barbie. Okay.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 13: First, I think I'm single because I live in the Midwest.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 13: I'm black, I'm opinionated, I'm a lot of things that
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 13: like I think a lot of men right now don't
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 13: want but I don't. Also, only datement. I think the
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 13: reason I'm single actually like she's far right or just
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 13: she dogs she's opinionated.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: Guys, he's opinionated. Now, of course, I don't know why
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: she says I'm black like that synopstaicle, Like black people
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: date all the time. Pretty sure. I don't think it's
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: against nobody's made it illegal. And there's plenty of black
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: men around, if that's what you mean, unless you're looking
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: for white men and they don't want you, and maybe
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: that's why you're upset. But that that's like, I think
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: that's just cope. It's an excuse for like the fact
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: that she can't find a relationship, you know. And but
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: but saying I'm opinionated, that's that's scary. That means she
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: is not pleasant to be around, That's what That's all
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. That means she argues, she picks fights,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm guessing. Like when a woman says opinionated,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: that usually means something a lot more severe than it
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: sounds like.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: It probably isn't an opinion on the Roman Empire.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 17: Yeah right, all right, let's hear let's hear her go
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 17: on this last year or so after being in like
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 17: such a terrible situation.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 9: I was just like, I actually what a.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: Surprise situationship means? I was chasing after a man that
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: a bunch of my a bunch of other women were
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: also after because I only go after the top one
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: percent of men in my area. And I realized I
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: was being I was putting up with it for a while,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: and then for whatever I got like, you know, I
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: didn't get picked, and now I'm mad.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean, right there, that's why you're single.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: I think that indicates very strongly, while you're single, you
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: went after a man you could never get a commitment from,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: and he probably went after him because he gave you fomo.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: And here's the really really problematic bit of all this.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: If he had turned around and actually gave her a relationship,
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: how long before she wanted to kick him out? How
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: long before that urge to gurge, that urged to reject
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: started to build in her? Because once you locked out
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: a man, he's not dating five other women, So how
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: do you know he's really worth anything? Right, he stops
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: dating other women, he stops being able to make you
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: feel he can leave in a dime, and he stopped
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: getting that excitement of potential withdrawal, you know, the withdrawal
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: of his company, and he starts to look less and
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: less attractive to you. And that's the problem with women
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: like this, This is the real reason why they're signal single.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: If a man commits to them, he becomes less attractive
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: to him to them, first of all, because he can't
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: induce fomo, because he can't withdraw his attention as easily anymore.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have other women orbiting him, so he doesn't
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: seem to be as attractive as he was when he
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: did right when she hadn't locked him down. And because
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: her attraction to him is in part the fact that
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: there is uncertainty in their relationship. As soon as that
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: uncertainty resolves, his attractiveness goes down. And then there's all
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: of the narrative around how living with him means that
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: he's getting some special essence, some special essence that she doesn't.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 2: She just doesn't she can't account for, but she knows
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: that the accounting is always in his favor, which engages
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: that kind of petty jealousy or envy towards her own partner.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: And all of this is being aimed at the relationship,
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: So how soon before she gives in and then she
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: has all her friends picking at all of his problems
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: or the things that they're constructing, and she's got all
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: the TikTok challenges, and maybe he's tired from work and
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be cute, right, and then she's like,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: oh my god, he doesn't really love me. You see,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: all of that starts to circle the relationship, and this
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: woman doesn't have a strong enough mind to reject it.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: So I'm guessing that that situationship is about as much
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: as she can expect from her life. Until she fixes that.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: She starts kicking out the influences that don't allow her
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: to pair bond. She starts kicking out the addiction to
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: uncertainty that makes her think that this man is very
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: attractive when all it is is uncertainty. If he resolves
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: that uncertainty, bam, ninety percent of his attractiveness to her
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: is gone. And then suddenly he's showing up every day.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: But that's what patriarchy is, and him showing up is
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: getting something from me that I'm not getting from him.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: And then the BAM, ten percent of his attractiveness goes
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: and then She's kicking him out the door for what
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: because of all the pressures in her own head that
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: she hasn't resolved and nothing to do with him. So
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, if that situationship had even offered her a relationship,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: she'd still be single.
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I got a super chow from
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre for five dollars and he says this sounds
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: like the live action remake of Lesbian Space Princess at
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: the Cave of a straight white Melians. However, it is
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: missing the acid vat and the a a Thespian.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: All right, yeah, yeah, the straight white Malians and Lesbian
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: Space Princess, we're the best part of the entire show.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: And that and this.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Chauvinistic ship, the problematic ship, all of the male characters
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: are the best part of that. Hell, even the drag
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: Drag Queen was was a good character compared to the
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: female characters.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 14: All Right, all right, let's place some more of this
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 14: care to seek out love.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 13: Whatever will come to me will come to me, and
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 13: then I'll put it on the chopping block for whether
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 13: or not it's it's for me, or whether or not
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 13: it is like is or isn't.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 14: But yeah, I think there's a lot of factors. Again,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 14: are you a muppet? Opinionated, loud, argumentative? I think I'm
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 14: just like a lot of things that the dating market,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 14: I am.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Your counterproof the dating market rejects argumentative, opinionated women. And
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: maybe when when that comes, when that kind of woman
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: comes back into fashion, then she'll be set. But she
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to change the world has to change.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: So but the thing is that I'm opinionated and argumentative
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: managed to have a relationship and maybe, you know, like
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: very Peter natural, but I think it's more than that,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: lady something else.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: She's probably just a bitch, Allison. She's probably a bitch
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't want to actually like reckon with her
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: own let's say flaws or her character flaws, because she doesn't.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: No one's ever told her she has character flaws to
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: work on, and that she's just find the way she is.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: And that's like the most important thing. That you shouldn't
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: let anyone try to control you because that's what men do.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just be argumentative and opinionated, and I'm sure
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: that a man will come along and put up with it,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: but he better not be weak.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: But you see how that makes like the feminist framework
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: makes every relationship a struggle session. Right, it's you can
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: never be comfortable, you can never be peaceful, and the
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: man always has to be one foot out the door.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: You won't be attracted to him. We have created we
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: have created a system where human paara bonding goes to die.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: Okay, all right, next, Okay, I think that I'm so
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: single because I'm not settling. I know what I need
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 5: from a person, and i know what what I want
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 5: from a person, and so I'm not going to get
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 5: into any type of relationship just just you know what
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 5: she wants, what he wants.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: A man who first standards are just too high. Guys,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: that woman right there deserves a ten. Obviously she is
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: not gonna settle.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean this is cope that they're just giving
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: excuses for why there aren't That doesn't act. Is there's
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: no reflection on themselves.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: No, no, And that's the thing. I mean, I don't
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: know if we have time, but I think most of
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: the men are like, I just need to do more, Okay.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: The women are like, I just haven't found men that
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: are doing enough.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 2: I'll go for as long as it takes, just finish
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: it off. I'm not that uncomfortable right now. I don't
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: have a headache. MIAs finally stopped biting me. She was
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: doing that occasionally.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: So you guys got to step up, step up to
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: this woman's level. Look at that. That's a ten right there,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: don't you know? Nova Fan twenty one gives a dollar
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: and says, feminist. It's only insecure men who don't want
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: opinions from women, non feminist women. Holds her hand up
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: to speak feminists. She doesn't have any options opinions. Rather,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have any opinions. Okay, let's keep going.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 5: So they have to meet my needs. And I think,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 5: you know, I've been divorced now for two years. I
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 5: think a good chunk of that time was intentionally being
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 5: single of just really trying to like be myself. So
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 5: now as I've like started to get myself out.
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: There, drill down into the divorce, we could start there.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: You were single because you got divorced. How did that happen?
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's probably him. He would turn out to
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: be a narcissist and toxic and stuff like that.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not if he married you. But okay, yeah,
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying her specifically. But you know, narcissists are
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: not really known for their commitment. He probably was just
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: slightly a slightly crabby or something something mild. Every Let
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: me put it this way. When women say all my
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: exes are narcissists, I'm like, eh, well either.
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for surely you got what you got dumb to
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: one hundred and nine times. It's probably their fault, right.
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, common denominators don't exist here. All right, let's keep going.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, my life.
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: What I want for my daughter's life as well too?
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 11: Oh you have a daughter?
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: Oh my, oh geez, and you're not settling. Why did
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: you drag another helpless human being into your mess? Lady? Okay,
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: let's keep it.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 5: I know more of what I want, So I think
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 5: it's for me, the hardest thing of the needs to me. So,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 5: if y'all are listening to this and want a tip
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: of what you know is important, I think it's emotional
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 5: vulnerability and emotional availability is a big thing. I think
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 5: it's really hard for me, as a very emotionally intelligent
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 5: person to connect with people. A lot of people aren't
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 5: able to connect on that depth level intimately, like emotional intimacy,
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 5: and so Wow, what kind of has been.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, lady, lady, Yeah, so it's why are you still single?
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's everybody else's fault. It's men's fault.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, but did you just hear what an incredible narcissist? Now,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: people just don't have the depth of feeling that I
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 2: have and the intelligence and you got divorced, lady, I
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: would not be putting on those errors. A little bit
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: of humble pie might be in order.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, rights hard for me at least to find
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 5: that person because I say, that's such a coord need.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 5: But essentially I'm not settling.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: Such a cor need. But you're not settling for the
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: right person.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 16: I don't think I know that I'm single because truly,
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 16: at heart, I'm the problem. I took a lot of
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 16: the defensive coping mechanisms for my last relationship, and I
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 16: start to throw them onto other people, so truly, like
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 16: you don't really want to be with me, honestly, And
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 16: then when you think.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 10: About it, like where I'm at right now at LSU,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 10: the dating.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 16: Work, it is like trash, Like it's kind of just
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 16: like I excuse my friends, but it's a little slitty,
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 16: so it's just.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: Like Daphne at home at least recognizes that she is
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: the problem. She's the only one of the women that
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: have said that. But it's also also other people. It's
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: everybody's fault, two wrongs. Equala, who cares?
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 16: I don't want anybody in the same sense that you
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 16: said you don't want to settle. I don't want to
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 16: settle for somebody that's dating me and the girl down
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 16: the whole. I don't want to settle for somebody that
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 16: I see you at a party or I see you
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 16: at the club and you were sixteen different girls, Like, well,
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 16: I know I'm the problem. So if you do that,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 16: I'm going to be toxic in return. So why would
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 16: I put myself in that situation?
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: What situation is she putting herself in?
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: Just like dating.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: Realized, there's a there's a spectrum. They are not like
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 2: the only men that exist in her world are dating
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: sixteen other women. How did that happen? Do you not
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: notice that there are other men in the world not
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: dating sixteen women? Like where did they go?
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: Like my whole I doesn't see those men. Those men
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: are not people, right, I got standards.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not dating the men who have sixteen other women.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: So that's why I'm single. There are other men.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's Velma at home, not Daphne. It's Velma
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: at home, that's who that is.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: But there have I gone nuts here? There are other
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: men besides ones dating sixteen women. I'm single because I
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: just don't want the men dating other women.
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. I want exclusive I want exclusive access
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: to the men that are basically like playing the field,
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: not the men who are not playing the field. Those
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: men are obviously I don't want them because other women
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: don't want them, they must not be desirable for some reason.
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: And then she never pauses and says, okay, if my
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 2: condition for finding man desirable is that he's d dating
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: sixteen other women, because this is really refeeling. I'm not
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: dating because I don't want to date men dating sixteen
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: other women. There are other men out there, my dear
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: guaranteed right, And she's like, have you considered that if
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: you don't find if you can't even see the men
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: who aren't dating sixteen other women, that maybe if you
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: ended up walking down the man with sixteen other women
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: and made him exclusive to you, you might cease to
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: find him attractive because the thing that's attracting you to
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: him is the fact he's been orbited by other women.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: God damn, Like this is this You cannot have relationships
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 2: with these women? That these are women. They have frowned
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: four women that it would be impossible for anyone to
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: have a relationship with because what they want is contradictory.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: It makes no sense. It's unself aware. That one woman
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: is a massive narcissist, the other woman is I'm not
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: I'm single because I got I got weird hobbies and
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: I'm healing from having building a huge career as a
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: thrift store worker. Not a thrift store owner, just a worker.
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: You know, like all of this is just a bunch
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: of dysfunction, like massive dysfunction, to the point where these
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: women are not capable of a pair bond, Like they
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 2: don't have the basic skills necessary. And I know what it.
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I'm saying that I don't even think
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 2: that I've got the basic skills, although apparently I must
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: have some since my husband's been with me for twenty
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: eight years. But you know, like this is this is
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: these these they are they're there is nothing you can
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: do with this raw material sirs, nothing all right, there's
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: just nothing. There's nothing there.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. My air conditioner just came on our
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: heater or something. So if you hear any buzzing, I
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: apologize for that. That's me.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just there's What I mean is that there's
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: nothing there to start with. You know, there's no you're
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: you're you're trying to build a house, you know, maybe
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: maybe or build a brick wall, and these women are
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: a pile of leaves. That's a really bad metaphor. I'm
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: just saying, you can't build a brick wall from this.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: You can't build a relationship from these women. And they
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: don't have the skills, they don't have the self awareness
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: to be capable of being one half of a paramond.
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 2: I'm just still reeling from that one woman who's like,
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: I just invested so much into my career, what are
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: you Well, I'm a clerk at a thrift store.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: So she says, he's a manager at a thrift store.
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: Manager at a thrift store.
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, she's a manager. That's a career, all right.
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 10: I can take enough accountability to say that I'm the problem,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 10: but I'm going to ruin it for you.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 8: I'd say I'm probably single, mostly out of not mostly
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 8: definitely out of choice, I mean definitely like you've been saying,
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 8: the theme is kind of going along. Not wanting to
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 8: settle is definitely part of it. Also, I'll work a lot.
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 8: I mean I work overtime almost every week. I mean
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 8: last summer, I think I averaged probably a minimum of
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 8: seventy hours a week plus going.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 16: To the gym.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 8: I'm there for an hour and a half, two hours,
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 8: which is where I spend most of my time is
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 8: not at home or work, is at the gym. And
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 8: I'll be honest definitely not approachable at the gym because
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 8: I look angry when I'm working out.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 7: I don't know what it is, it's just how it is.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 7: So i'd say it's a lot of time is a
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 7: big way.
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 1: He's basically blaming himself. He's like, well, look I haven't
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting myself out there, so it's on me.
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: I'm working hard, I'm taking I'm doing this or that. Well,
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: it's not society's fault. It's not men's fault, it's not
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: where women's fault or anything like that.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: So his attitude has improved since the guy intered into
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 2: protect his status, which is interesting, has become less less unpleasant.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's saying it's his fault. But also he's
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: not approaching either.
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: You notice that, Yeah approaching.
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're not gonna get anywhere. But on the
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: other hand, consider that what they've paired with these men
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 2: are women who are basically incapable of a pair bond
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: like this, this dude might be capable of a pair bond.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe I was going a little bit too hard into,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: you know, possible sociopath. Maybe he's just really insecure. Who knows.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: Well, No, he's working a lot and he's going to
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 1: the gym constantly, so he's obviously trying to like attract
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: status max. He's trying to do some status maxing. I
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: hope it works out for you, bro, But I think
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: the problem with Jen's women is not just that they're
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 1: not approaching you. I mean, if you talked to these
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: women you are on this panel, that's what you're up against. Like, yeah,
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have some crazy standards and then
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough. Anyways, But anyway, Well doesn't
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: have a high enough emotional intelligence to understand them.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: Who okay, all right. If I were to rank these
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: women on this panel in terms of emotional intelligence, I
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: think most of them, okay, maybe the Velma at Home
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: might be like a one, Like from a one to ten,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: maybe a two.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't mess with any of them. They're
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: all train wrecks. Yes, But if you put a gun
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: into my head and I had to pick one, I'd
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: probably go with Velma at Home because she's honest about
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: her flaws and the others like single mom, hell no, oh.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: Gosh, narcissist. But I talk about emotional intell dilligence, which
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: is the bedrock for relationship, but emotional intelligence includes the
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: ability to self assess, you know, and recognize when you
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 2: are doing something wrong. I would say Velma's on the
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 2: low end, probably like on a scale from one to ten, two, three,
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: the narcissistic single mother negative fifty, the other woman what was?
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 9: What was?
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: I can't even remember what she was?
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: And then there was the chick the U.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, one is like
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: the least emotional intelligence. Ten is the top. I think
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: that she just leaves a smoking crater, like she's just
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think she is aware that other people exist
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: at all, Right, And the chick who's like, oh, I
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: have manager of a thrift store, my fantastic career. Yeah zero,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: Like all of these ladies have zero emotional intelligence, which
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: you have to have some to have a relationship, or
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: at the very least, you have to care about the
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: person you're in a relationship with, which is a quotion
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: of emotional intelligence. So where can anybody go with it?
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: This?
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 6: And then the.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: Velma at home I think is just a slut. Good luck,
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: you know. I think she just she's just a slut,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: and you could try to wipe that up, but yeah,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: who knows where that's gonna go. Okay, let's see what
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 2: this dude like. If I'm wrong about him actually being
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: really really hierarchical competing with other men and really focusing
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: on that, maybe I'm wrong about it. Maybe, like I said,
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 2: he's just really insecure. At least he's trying to.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: Compete, and I think it's like for him, he's probably
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 1: like trying to like get the Chad mindset going, which
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: is why he was kind of, you know, taking digs
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: at what he perceived as weak men. But when you
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: know that he's like working seventy hour weeks and going
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: to the gym, like basically killing himself to like become
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: high staff that it may be said that he's like
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: doing this, right.
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 2: Like, you see, women they won't even coherently explain what
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 2: they want for men because then they have to admit
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 2: that they want it, so there's no actual standard. So
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: they're not even held to the standard of expressing a
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: coherent standard for men. Right, So they're not even they're
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: not even like this guy's working seventy hours a week
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: going to the gym for a woman. What the hell
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: are these women doing for a man? Nothing like I said,
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: they're not even coherently explaining what they want in a man.
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 1: You notice that you think that would be the right
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: I know, I know that's why I said. I said that.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: When he said why are you single? None of them
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 1: said here are some things about me that I need
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: to change. All of them said, well, it's because of
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 1: these things out of side of my control. I'm victims
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: of my of my circumstance. It's men's ball, it's my
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: excess ball. Whatever, right, Noah did, it's my hobby's fault.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: It's not like it's not me like I'm trying to
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: be a decent person because I think that, like, ultimately
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: that would be the easiest way to get a man.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: It's to just not be garbage, like, just be a
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: good person. And I think you're in you'll find your
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: your conditions will change dramatically, and it's probably good to
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: learn how to determine, you know, not what a man
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 1: of like a certain status is or the one that
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: gives you the tinglings the tingles are but like the
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: men who are, you know, stable and reliable and honorable.
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: But you have to understand what those things are like,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: You'd have to have them in yourself. You'd have to
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 1: have a sense of what honor is, and what humility is,
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 1: and what stability is, and what kindness is, and what
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 1: sacrifices like those are the things you would need. And
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: those women don't know any of that, is like they
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: just they don't. And yeah, I do pity that single
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: mom's kid, because that kid's probably gonna have some baggage.
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure so.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: But the other thing is that these women they can't
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: even articulate what they want from men. This is the
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: like they they're like, well, I'm the table you're not
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: even the table, because the table is at least something concrete, right,
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: and you can you can know what it what it is,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: But you don't even offer a table. You offer absolutely nothing.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: The man has to bring the table too, right, except
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: for Voma, But the rest of them, they don't know
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: what they want like they have and they will not
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: admit to what they want because the sister saidhood says
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: that wanting anything from men makes you a bad woman
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: who should be ejected from the sisterhood, makes you a
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 2: pick me. So they can't even articulate what they want.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 2: And that's like, how are you supposed to have a
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: relationship if you can't even articulate what you want? I mean,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: we're not even talking about like maybe having some understanding
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: of your partner, reciprocation, that kind of thing. How do
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: you do anything if you don't know what you want
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: and if you can't admit it to yourself. So and
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 2: this guy's like, wow, I'm trying really hard. So the
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 2: very things that he's doing to get a partner are
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 2: the things that are stopping him from getting one. And
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 2: why is that? Because in this society he can't just
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: go up to a woman he finds attractive and say hey,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 2: because she is preloaded with this script that she has
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: to reject him. Right, She's preloaded with it that her
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: entire status with the Sisterhood requires rejection, rejecting men. And
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: the only men she won't reject here the men who
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 2: can instantly induce some kind of fomo in her.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: So that's why he's single. He's single because there's nothing
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: to receive. There's no there's no receiver to receive his signal.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: Right, okay, all right, I'm gonna go get dinner at
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: some point, so maybe we'll just finish go through the rest.
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 8: Of these and then just I don't really want to
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 8: settle for somebody who doesn't, you know, match the just
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 8: a couple of things that I need for a good relationship.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 6: Uh, I'm single because I met a girl in twenty
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 6: nineteen and we've been on and off since. But like
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 6: I don't know, like if if anyone has ever been
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 6: like the one or something like that. You know, people
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 6: always saying they felt that they're like to me, it's her,
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 6: you know, and like me and her always end up
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 6: coming back together. Like if you do any spirituality stuff
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 6: like twin flameship that like, that's right. Is so it
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 6: kind of comes down to like all meat, Like I've
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 6: met girls right.
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 7: That I felt like it's good to me.
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 6: They have values and shit.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 2: But it's so basically he's orbiting.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: He's pine for a woman's he's carrying water for someone. Yeah,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. And he's not blaming her either.
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he's blaming himself, I'm
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: blaming her.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 2: Why isn't she locking that shit down?
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 12: Like what?
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: Why do these women think they have infinite time? Of
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: course what one am I talking But the other thing
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 2: is it's often gone on again a relationship, So it
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: probably is exactly the thing that I'm talking about. When
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: she's in the relationship, she can't settle into the relationship
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: because of all of the all the bullshit she's been
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: told that makes.
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: Him think her think, well, you know, she's probably keeping
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: him around for when she's exhausted all of her options
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: and then she'll be like okay, and he'll probably just
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: be like yay.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: But it sounds like they're actually like are in relationship.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: They that they're cycling in and out of an actual relationship,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: right so they yeah, Okay, So this guy isn't. This
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: guy's just cooked. He's not single, he's just cooked.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 6: I don't necessarily like I think that's a bad thing
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 6: per se, but like I don't know, I guess Leah,
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 6: so I'm single because like I just choose to like
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 6: wait for her essentially.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 2: So oh yeah, so you're fucking in love with a
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: woman like this is this is the funny thing. None
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: of these women are like that. You notice that I'm
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: signal because men aren't good enough and whatever the hell
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: the thrift shot woman thinks and he's like, I'm I'm
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 2: single because he's waiting for a woman.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 10: So he's like deep in like.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 2: The vasive pressing, uh pair bonding stage, and the stupid
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: bitch is just like, I don't know, Eh, what do
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: you think you're You think you're gonna get better than
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 2: this dude bonded to you. You're not. You're just gonna
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 2: get worse. It's only going to get worse from him,
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 2: guaranteed for whoever that is orbiting him.
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 11: Oh, real Catholic something that I was in the church,
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 11: all these other things I didn't have a real relationship with.
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 11: I didn't really read the Bible. I understand a lot
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 11: of it. And then after college it really this last
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 11: like four years or so, I've grown a lot in
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 11: my faith and I've learned a lot more about my
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 11: values and what we can't allow, what I can't allow
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 11: in a relationship, what's a non negotiable, what is a neegotiable,
• 2:19:16
  Speaker 11: and and some of the things that I was passive
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 11: about or was like, Okay, I don't love that, but
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 11: you know, it is what it is. I've changed that
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 11: perspective now and so I'm a lot more selective, a
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 11: lot more intentional about what it is that I'm looking for.
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 11: You know, I've had past relationships where there's been I
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 11: guess what I would consider a red flag now that
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 11: I was like, I was like, okay.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they skipped that. Other dude, they did it.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 11: I know, I don't want that, so that that would
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 11: be a huge reason.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 2: And then just maybe he's like I'm married.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 11: And all those other things.
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 3: Good sensible reason ask you guys to do that is
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: because one at some point during the time of this
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 3: video being on YouTube.
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's just selling them that there's people that watch
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 1: the video. So basically, this guy's like, I have like
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 1: these values and women aren't measuring up to that. Well,
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: good luck with that, brody. But yeah, but yeah, I
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: guess the guy in the black didn't they He did
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: say some some you know, neat stuff about the eighty
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: twenty He did mention the eighty twenty rule, the guy
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: in the black when we're talking about dating apps. So
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: but I didn't want to. I mean, we've this has
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 1: gone for like two and a half hours and I
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: want to eat. So yeah, but yeah, that's basically it.
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, the most red pill guy there is the
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 1: guy in black. He knows about the eighty twenty rule.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 1: He knows about simps. He understands that he is in
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: a system. He may not know it super well, but
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: he's definitely like you know, surveilling the terrain, a little
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: bit better equipped than the other guys, especially the guy
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: that's waiting for his on again, off again.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: Girl to like yeah, but you can't blame him, like
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: this is no.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm not mad at them. I mean I
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: understand I know guys that are in situations like that
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: where they're like no, no, it's gonna work out eventually.
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, no, I get it. But like
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 1: this is what they like. These women are is what
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: they This is what they're dealing with.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: The problem is that these women don't value what men
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 2: have to offer at all. And I'm not even talking
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: about masculinity and dominance in bed and whatever the slutty
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 2: velman wants, but just these dudes. I don't know. I'm
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: still a little bit suspicious of the dark gray plant
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 2: flannel guy. They're all look like they are pair bonders,
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 2: like they present that way, and women don't value that.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: They don't know to value that because they think that
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  Speaker 2: a man wanting to be in a relationship with them
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 2: is somehow secretly villainous, like he's just an oppressor, which
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: creates all kinds of psychological pressures. The truth is that
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 2: these men are single because apparently they're female counterparts who
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: are on the right side are hot men who are
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: incapable of having relationships. They have no emotionally cue, They
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: don't know what's important. They have strange notions, they constantly
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: project onto men. They blame men. They in one case
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: is just an outright narcissists. The single mother's a narcissists.
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 2: I think the other one's a narcissists. They're inconsistent to
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  Speaker 2: the point where they can't. They don't even know what
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: they want. They don't want even admit and acknowledge that
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: they want something. How do you have a relationship when
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 2: you won't admit and acknowledge that you want the other
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 2: party and what they have to offer. These women are
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: just incapable of a partnership. They are massive, steaming hot messes.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: And the reason why the men are single is because
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 2: the women are massive steaming hot messes. That's the answer.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 2: And they don't have any imperative to do better, be better,
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: be aware of themselves, be aware of other people, right,
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 2: no imperative to step up in any capacity and then
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 2: talk about, oh well, I'm the table. You're not even
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: the table. You're nothing. You're just a pile of miserable
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: self contradictions and expectations and lack of clarity and poor
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: values Hugh, and an obsessive desire to do what the
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: sisterhood tells you to do. Like these women are massively damaged,
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: and they're damaged by feminism. I'm gonna be honest, they're
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: damaged by what feminism tells women constantly about men. And
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 2: these men are just being men. I wish conservatives would
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: watch this shit. Look at these men right again, gray
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: plaid dude not so sure about. But the rest, including
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 2: the maladiator who's probably already married or in a relationship,
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 2: all of these men are marriageable. Do you see what
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Brian. Every single one of them is expecting
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: to bring something to relate to the relationship, to understand
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 2: their partner, to pair bond, they're expecting to step up.
• 2:24:20
  Speaker 2: Every single one of them frames it in terms of
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: what they need to do. Yes, a white plaid dude
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 2: has values. Yes, the black the guy in the black
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: has some ideas of what is going wrong, and he's
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 2: probably right.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 10: But they are all.
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  Speaker 2: Worthy partners for a woman. The problem is, look at
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 2: the woman that they are potentially paired with. They're worthless. Okay,
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 2: and I'm honestly I'm not even talking about but I'm
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: not even referencing body count. I'm talking about I'm talking about,
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 2: uh brainfold count. These are a lot of smooth brains
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: there doing very little except keeping their skulls up. Okay, Okay,
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: I'm done.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 1: Well, then that's it, so we can wrap it up.
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  Speaker 2: Do they realize that this is what they presented like
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of very put together men who are also
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 2: physically on an order of magnitude more attractive than the women.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: Do you notice that. Yeah, they're all tall, they're all fit,
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: they're all good looking, they're all calm, well except for
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 2: grade plaid man. He's a little bit neurotic, but whatever,
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: maybe just insecure, right. They all exude that kind of
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: energy that you could be calm with them, like they
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: could provide stability. And the women it's like, where did
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: you scrape them from? Mm hmm, like Skankville? Good lord,
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 2: And I wonder if anybody comments on that. And none
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 2: of these women want to bring anything. None of these
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 2: women want to recognize, truly recognize IDOL, must sort of
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: recognize it. Doesn't seem to want to do anything about it.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 2: Oh whatever, okay, fucking disasters, all right, okay, all right,
• 2:26:34
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  Speaker 1: About this or just like to end it off. Well,
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean I think I've said everything I needed to
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: say about this. Yeah, I mean, gen Z, gen Z
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: dating is cooked. I don't know. I mean, look, there
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: might be a way out of it, but it's the
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: way that we've been doing things. It is not working.
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: So I hope these guys find someone that isn't crazy.
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: I think that's really what it comes down to. Yeah,
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: men are hoping to find someone not crazy and not
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: like these women. So anyway, I would.
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  Speaker 2: Wish that conservatives would see this and realize it's not
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: men's fault or problem. Yeah, there is a categorical difference
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: and value between the left side of this, the men's
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: side and the women's side.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Okay, all right, Well with that said,
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