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Career: She helps students, early-career professionals, and corporate employees understand how to successfully navigate career transitions and professional growth. · Daily Inspiration: The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. I'm Rashon McDonald, a host of
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to stop
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  Speaker 1: I want to keep you on alert because my guests
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  Speaker 1: provide tips on how you can uplift your community, improve
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  Speaker 1: your financial planning, motivation, or advice on how to be
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  Speaker 1: a successful entrepreneur. Now, let's get this podcast started. My
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  Speaker 1: guest is a proud HBCU graduate of Winston Salem State University.
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  Speaker 1: My dear friend, Steven A Smith, graduating from that school
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  Speaker 1: as well. She's the founder and president of Creative Intentions.
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  Speaker 1: Creative Intentions was built to close that gap across every
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  Speaker 1: stage of professional life, from the student who has not
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  Speaker 1: yet taken that first step into the workforce to the
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  Speaker 1: leader who has climbed as far as their current tools
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  Speaker 1: will take them. She's here for that next step. Please
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  Speaker 1: welcome the Money Making Conversation Master Class, Doctor Talisha Roberts.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, doctor Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: I am well, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 1: I I when I when I when I read that
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  Speaker 1: out loud, I did intern ships in college, I worked
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  Speaker 1: all shores and in turn I did architectural firmas and
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  Speaker 1: intern and then when I got out and it prepared
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  Speaker 1: me because I eventually got a job at IBM, it
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  Speaker 1: prepared me for that world. Now, how exactly does your
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  Speaker 1: company work, doctor Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we are a strategic partner for individuals and organizations
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  Speaker 2: or even colleges and universities. And what we do is
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  Speaker 2: we work within the visuals to prepare them for whatever
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  Speaker 2: that next level is. So starting we start as early
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  Speaker 2: as juniors and seniors in college and university helping prepare
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  Speaker 2: them for the workplace. We work alongside your career services,
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  Speaker 2: your career services center, your student success center, and we
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  Speaker 2: kind of help navigate what that looks like when you
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  Speaker 2: get that transition, that role. So it's one thing to
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  Speaker 2: get a role, to get the internship, get that opportunity,
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  Speaker 2: but it's another thing to actually be successful when you
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  Speaker 2: get there, So we kind of stand in that gap
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  Speaker 2: there to help individuals be successful there. And then when
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  Speaker 2: you get into that role that you have worked so
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  Speaker 2: hard to get to, we also help standing that gap
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  Speaker 2: with you as you are moving up within an organization.
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  Speaker 2: That's feeling that you often reach when you go from
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  Speaker 2: individual contributor to manager of people and above. So we
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  Speaker 2: help you fill those gaps and get to where you
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  Speaker 2: need to be. And we're also finding that there are
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  Speaker 2: some people that are saying, Hey, that organization that I
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  Speaker 2: thought I wanted to be a part of, it's not
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  Speaker 2: what I actually want. I now want to go into
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  Speaker 2: entrepreneurship small business ownership, so we even help We are
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  Speaker 2: even helping individuals fill that gap as well, because we
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  Speaker 2: know that businesses often start at very different places. There
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of people who are very skilled and
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  Speaker 2: very passionate at what they want to do as far
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  Speaker 2: as small business ownership, but being skilled and passionate is
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  Speaker 2: very different than running an actual business, and so we
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  Speaker 2: are also stuff in to help fill that gap as well.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, you better have a plan and uh a
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  Speaker 1: planet seeds a lot more happiness because if you because
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  Speaker 1: once the happenings leaves.
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  Speaker 3: Where's the plan? That's that's what you're saying in a sense.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, absolutely absolutely. You gotta have a plan.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta have that plane. You know, people always said
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  Speaker 1: I've jumped out there on faith. You know, I woke
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  Speaker 1: up this morning, you know, and I feel blest. Better
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  Speaker 1: have that plan in between the blessings.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta have plans.
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  Speaker 3: You keep the faith, keep the blessing.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of people, a lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: being displaced, right. I was just on LinkedIn today and
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  Speaker 2: saw someone who had been displaced, and I know this
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  Speaker 2: young lady, and I mean that type of thing you're
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  Speaker 2: not even prepared for, right, You're not You're not thinking about, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I need to get ready for that next thing, that
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  Speaker 2: next level for me. It just happened. And so I
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  Speaker 2: reached out to her to connect with her as well,
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  Speaker 2: to kind of help her begin to figure out what
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  Speaker 2: that next move is going to be for her.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this before I get in ask
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  Speaker 1: you to my next corporate question. Give everybody a little
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  Speaker 1: background about your corporate world, because I think they need
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  Speaker 1: to understand you.
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  Speaker 3: You're coming from a source of.
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  Speaker 1: Been there, done that experience, and you're motivated to change
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  Speaker 1: people's lives because you walked those hawks.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely so. I was in the corporate space for
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  Speaker 2: over twenty six years, working in the same organization, and
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  Speaker 2: I created a plan. I knew it was time for
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  Speaker 2: me to leave, so I created that plan before I
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  Speaker 2: actually did so, and it took me about a year
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  Speaker 2: to get to where I wanted to be to make
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  Speaker 2: that move. But while I was there, back in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 2: there was an effort to expand opportunities for young people
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  Speaker 2: to come into the organization different organizations. There was a
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  Speaker 2: young lady who came into the organization and someone introduced
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  Speaker 2: me to her and asked me to kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: help her along, help shepherd her, help mentor her, and
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  Speaker 2: I was absolutely open to do that. This young lady
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  Speaker 2: did not get a role after this internship and she
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely devastated. She called me and she was in tears.
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  Speaker 2: She said, you know, I'm going back to a small
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  Speaker 2: town and there's no opportunities there. This was going to
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  Speaker 2: be that opportunity for me, and she was actually in tears.
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  Speaker 2: And after I hung up the phone with her, I
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  Speaker 2: was in tears, and I felt like I could have
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  Speaker 2: done more to assist her, and I said, I will
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  Speaker 2: never feel this way again. What can I do? So
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  Speaker 2: that's when I started Creative Intentions. I actually didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a logo, I didn't have a brand, any brand and recognition.
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  Speaker 2: I just got started. Started in the local library in
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  Speaker 2: Winston Salem, North Carolina, doing personal and professional development training.
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  Speaker 2: In one of the rooms there was a free room
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  Speaker 2: that gave me a free room. I bought snacks. My
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  Speaker 2: husband went out and pulled people off the streets that hey,
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  Speaker 2: you got to come and listen to what will my
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  Speaker 2: wife is talking about. And we filled rooms and that
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  Speaker 2: showed me that there was a need for what I
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  Speaker 2: was doing. And I just kept going and kept going,
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  Speaker 2: and kept planning, and kept id eating and kept planning,
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  Speaker 2: and we went on to do some amazing work. We
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  Speaker 2: did some work with VISA and their Visa Black Scholar
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  Speaker 2: and Jobs program doing professional and personal development training. And
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  Speaker 2: we're just doing some amazing things with some amazing young people,
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  Speaker 2: with some amazing early career professionals and even those that
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  Speaker 2: have been in the corporate space for many years. We're
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  Speaker 2: just starting to do a lot with entrepreneurs and small
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  Speaker 2: business ownership, economic development. So it's been an amazing journey
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  Speaker 2: and I every day I wake up looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: where this path is going to take us.
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  Speaker 1: Next, stay with us more money Making Conversation masking Lass
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. Welcome back to money Making Conversation mastic
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  Speaker 1: lass with me Rashawn McDonald.
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  Speaker 3: Cool.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to speak to doctor Roberts four zero
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  Speaker 1: four eight eight zero down two five to five. That's
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  Speaker 1: four zero four eight eight zero nine two five to five.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a question. Being the hardest worker in the room
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  Speaker 1: will not get you promoted?
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  Speaker 3: Why not?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something that I used to think. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I used to think that, you know, you work hard,
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  Speaker 2: put your head down, someone is going to eventually notice
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  Speaker 2: all your wonderful work. Well, that does not happen. If
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  Speaker 2: you cannot properly articulate your value to an organization and
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  Speaker 2: tie the projects and things that you work on to
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  Speaker 2: those overall goals and objectives of that organization, then you
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  Speaker 2: are going to be quietly lost. And so you have
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  Speaker 2: to It is a absolute must that you know how
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  Speaker 2: to articulate that, that you know how to draw those
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  Speaker 2: those lines, solid lines as well as dot it lines
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  Speaker 2: to your organization's goals and objectives. It's the very imperative
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  Speaker 2: that you can look outward to understand, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: changes that are happening in your organization, what your leadership
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  Speaker 2: is looking for, what they're looking for, and they don't
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  Speaker 2: know that they're looking for it. So you have to
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  Speaker 2: learn how to do forecasting. But you have to learn
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  Speaker 2: how to tell your own story. No one is going
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  Speaker 2: to tell your story for you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but you know in that corporate space because
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  Speaker 1: everybody wants to get it at corporate space, or wants
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  Speaker 1: to be at the entrepreneur, or wants to go to college,
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  Speaker 1: or wants to get a certificate.
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  Speaker 3: There are so many changes from when I went to college.
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  Speaker 1: The number one thing that when I went to college,
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  Speaker 1: when I got my job at IBM, I thought I
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  Speaker 1: was in heaven.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess what. I still believe that.
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  Speaker 1: Was one of the best jobs I ever had in
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  Speaker 1: my life because it prepared me in so many ways.
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  Speaker 1: And I still use the working capital that they trained
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  Speaker 1: me under in my life today. But these are that
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  Speaker 1: hard work and I wanted to stay there for a
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  Speaker 1: minute because you know, as a black person, it always
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  Speaker 1: says I got to work twice as hard to get
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  Speaker 1: the same benefits or make the same revenue or get
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  Speaker 1: the same recognition in the corporate space. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: I worked that IBUM, I lost a majority of white people,
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  Speaker 1: so I felt I had to work twice as hard
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  Speaker 1: to get there was that a model of of incorrect
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  Speaker 1: perception because I want to stay on the work twice
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  Speaker 1: as hard a statement, because I've heard it all my life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there could be some validity to that
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  Speaker 2: or some truthfulness to that. It really depends on where
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  Speaker 2: you are, Okay, it depends on the organization that you
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  Speaker 2: are in the industry that you are in. I think
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  Speaker 2: very much so that that is the case, probably widely.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think that there are some things that
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  Speaker 2: you really need to understand about your industry and the
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  Speaker 2: changes within that industry. I do think that you really
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  Speaker 2: need to understand the organization that you work in, look
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  Speaker 2: at your leadership, not just the current leadership, but leadership
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  Speaker 2: over time, and see what your organization really values. I
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  Speaker 2: believe that every organization has a heartbeat, a nucleus, they
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  Speaker 2: have a background, and if you really get to understand
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  Speaker 2: your organization perfectly before you get there, you can really
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  Speaker 2: understand a little bit about how you're going to have
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  Speaker 2: to navigate when you.
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  Speaker 3: Get in, you know you do the thing about it,
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  Speaker 3: Doctor Roberts.
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  Speaker 1: I look back on my life and I realized that
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  Speaker 1: I did work hard.
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  Speaker 3: I did believe that I had to work more, and
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  Speaker 3: I guess what, And no shame in my game.
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  Speaker 1: And I will tell anybody else the hard work will
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  Speaker 1: get you somewhere. A lack of work will get you nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that is and I think that it's
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  Speaker 1: all about competition, and if you're a competitive person, you'll
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  Speaker 1: be successful. And how you want to compete will be determined,
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  Speaker 1: will determine how hard you want to work. I like
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  Speaker 1: to believe that Michael Jordan, you know, it was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people. You can dunk, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: can dribble between their legs. But to understanding, Kobe Bryant
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  Speaker 1: was an incredibly hard worker. Michael Jordan was an incredibly
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  Speaker 1: hard worker, and so hard work. And I'm not denouncing
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  Speaker 1: anything you say, and I'm just talking in general. Hard
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  Speaker 1: work can't be a deciding factor and there's nothing to
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  Speaker 1: do with race. You work hard, there will be some
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  Speaker 1: results that would lead to a lot better if you
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  Speaker 1: consider ound complaining.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more, doctor Robins.
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  Speaker 1: She's fantastic and scaling your life just about scaling your
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  Speaker 1: life to another level, and she's doing it with Creative
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  Speaker 1: Intentions in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, Please don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
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  Speaker 1: Rashawn McDonald. Let's get back into it, Doctor Roberts. How
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  Speaker 1: do we get in touch with you?
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  Speaker 2: So you can find me at Creative Intentions, Inc. That's
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  Speaker 2: from North Carolina dot com now even though there's an
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  Speaker 2: n C there. We also support clients all across the US,
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  Speaker 2: and we are actually having conversations right now to move
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  Speaker 2: outside of the US, so we are super excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: We perform at scale, so no project is too large
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  Speaker 2: or too small for us. We have a great team
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  Speaker 2: of folks that are there to give you that personalized
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  Speaker 2: service that you need, So reach out to me directly
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  Speaker 2: on our website or just shoot me an email at
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  Speaker 2: Telisha at Creative Intentions Inc. Dot com.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting, doctor Roberts when I because
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  Speaker 1: whenever I interview you always make me think about think
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  Speaker 1: about my life now and think about my life when
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  Speaker 1: I was younger. Think about because there's so many different
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  Speaker 1: ways to be successful, there's so many different ways to
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  Speaker 1: work hard, and there's so many things that you can
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  Speaker 1: consider a career. When people come to you and they
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  Speaker 1: feel stuck, how do you get them pointing in the
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  Speaker 1: right direction. How do you break down what is really
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  Speaker 1: stopping them from being successful?
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  Speaker 2: Well, one of the first things that we do. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, no two people are the same, so we
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  Speaker 2: take a very individualized approach when we are working with individuals,
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  Speaker 2: when we're working with colleges and universities, as well as
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  Speaker 2: when we're working with organizations. No two are the same.
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  Speaker 2: So we first take the time to understand who that
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  Speaker 2: person that organization is. We have some assessments. That's where
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  Speaker 2: we really start, so that we can understand where you
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  Speaker 2: are as a leader, what your strengths are, what your
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  Speaker 2: preferences are and really get to know you. Going back
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  Speaker 2: to that hard work, one of the things that I
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  Speaker 2: want to add is that we understand that hard work
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  Speaker 2: is across the board, right. What we do is hard work.
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  Speaker 2: The work that we do with every individual, with every
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  Speaker 2: organization is very hard work. We ask tough questions and
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  Speaker 2: we get you to ask those tough questions to yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You can't fool yourself, right, and it doesn't matter. I
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  Speaker 2: have some young people that will come and they will say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I want to get a content creator. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: you're not working hard. It's probably you're going to work harder. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So there is no there is no easy path to success.
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  Speaker 2: As anyone that is successful, there is no easy path.
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  Speaker 2: You're probably going to work more hard than you ever
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  Speaker 2: have before, especially if you're doing something that is you know,
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  Speaker 2: in the entrepreneurship space, in the small business space, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to work even harder than you would if you're
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  Speaker 2: working for someone else. So hard work is going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: But we start with that understanding. One of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I talked to, particularly with my early career professionals,
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  Speaker 2: is that understanding that hey, this is all hard work.
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  Speaker 2: You have to understand you have to be ready to
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  Speaker 2: do the hard work, or we'll wait until you're ready.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's really I'm over smiling when I listen
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  Speaker 1: to you talk, because again, you bring up so many
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  Speaker 1: memories of myself, and a lot of times I've questioned
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  Speaker 1: myself I look back on my past. I think some
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  Speaker 1: people don't look back on their past. They only think
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  Speaker 1: about their future, and that future can make them nervous or.
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  Speaker 3: Fearful of options.
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  Speaker 1: But I always tell people to look back, and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you can understand it can help you move forward. Now,
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  Speaker 1: with that being said, you are talking to people and
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  Speaker 1: trying to motivate them to be the best that they
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  Speaker 1: can be. What if they don't see the best that
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  Speaker 1: they can be, doctor Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes that happens, right when you think about how we
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  Speaker 2: all come from different places, different spaces, different experiences, different
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  Speaker 2: upbringing and sometimes if you have not been in spaces
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  Speaker 2: where that has been a practice, some people have grown
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  Speaker 2: up in families where it is a practice to talk
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  Speaker 2: about themselves or talk about what they're good at and
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  Speaker 2: ideate and explore the creative those type of things, and
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  Speaker 2: those type of things really build you as an individual,
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  Speaker 2: but not all families work or operate that way. So
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  Speaker 2: sometimes you have to just take some time and invest
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  Speaker 2: in people and help them see what they have to offer.
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  Speaker 2: And we take that time. We are not these one
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  Speaker 2: of these cookie cutter organizations that's doing the same thing
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  Speaker 2: for everyone. We take the time and invest in people
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  Speaker 2: because someone took the time to invest in me. And
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  Speaker 2: so that is why I am where I am today,
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  Speaker 2: is because there were people that invested in me the
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  Speaker 2: time to sit with me, to encourage me, to mentor me.
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  Speaker 2: And we take that time to do the same thing
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  Speaker 2: for every single person who is in any of our programs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you them, doct Borer, I just love your
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  Speaker 1: voice tone. You know I've jabbed at you a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times.
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  Speaker 3: You did come back. Don't worry about it, Shine, Life's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be good. What if I don't believe in myself,
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  Speaker 3: don't worry about shine?
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  Speaker 2: No, Come on, all of us, all of us go
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  Speaker 2: through that at some point in our lives, right right,
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  Speaker 2: all of us. What you hear from me today was
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  Speaker 2: not always this. It has taken me near to get
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  Speaker 2: to this place. I understand that I understand that everyone
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  Speaker 2: can't be like me. It takes some time, it takes
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  Speaker 2: some effort, it takes some energy, it takes the falling down.
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  Speaker 2: I've got far as a shot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a beautiful thing because I think that
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  Speaker 1: people need to understand that you have to have a
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  Speaker 1: certain atone in all levels of stress excitement.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like I said, you can't get too high,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: you can't get too low.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that because when people come to you,
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  Speaker 1: they know they getting a polished person who's going to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: react and they even kill manner. Because right now, a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: college graduate with a brand new degree is entering one
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: of the most hostile entry level job markets and recent
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: mass layoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, AI, every time you turn AI, AI is gonna
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: take your job. Hey, I don't care about your degree.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: AI is really your degree.
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  Speaker 1: And so how do you deal with that level of
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: job a hostility when they still in colleges in college
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and when they graduate, and then the ones who in
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: business feel feeling that they're about to get rubbed out
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: because AI is out there and maybe sitting around the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: corner on somebody's keyboard.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, first of all, it's real. First of all, is real.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just anxiety or anxious or the topic of
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  Speaker 2: the day. It is real. There are companies that are
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  Speaker 2: taking dollars to the bottom line so they can reinvest
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  Speaker 2: into AI. And what that reinvestment looks like for entry
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  Speaker 2: level positions is they're no longer there and those that
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: may be there are in competition. You have a group
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of people that have been separated from organizations that they've
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: been in ten, fifteen, twenty years, so they are also
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: competing for entry level positions. So this is real. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: here's the thing that I think about Rashwan, this is
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: just where we are. We have to learn how to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: be strategic. We have to learn how to get in
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: front of the problem and be proactive instead of reactive.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: One of the things about me is it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm even killed just like this, even when times are
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: really really tough for me. And to be quite honest,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: when I was in the corporate space, I used to
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: get dinged for that. I walked had a manager that
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: told me, you know, you really don't move. You know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: you're not shaken, you don't have a sense of urgency.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And I do have a sense of urgency, but I'm
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: not going to respond to it the way you do.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: I'm still going to be urgent, but my urgent looks different.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I remember I was in a store years ago, myself
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: and my youngest daughter, and there was a message that
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: came over the intercom that said, hey, that there's a
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: tornado that just touched down and everybody needed to move
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: to this certain part of the store. My daughter began
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to panic, and I said, hey, listen, we need to
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: calm down. We need to operate with as much information
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: as we can, as much piece as we can, or
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that we can be safe. And we can't do that
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: if we're in a TZ. So I very rarely get
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in a TZ about too much of anything. I operate
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: with urgency, with that sense of urgency, but I do
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: it differently.
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  Speaker 1: As we close out, listen one more time. Tell everybody
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: how to get in touch with you, Doctor Robertson.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, please reach out to me if you are in
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: that gap, if you are a early career professional, if
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you are a junior or senior in college and university,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: if you are that person looking to move to your
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: next level, if you are at that organization that are
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: looking to invest in your most valuable asset your people.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Reach out to me at Creative Intentions, Inc. Dot com
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: or Talisha t e l I s h A at
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  Speaker 2: Creators Intentions in seed dot com or just call with Sean.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: He knows how to get it.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I knew that's right, and I'm about to get off
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the couch because she has got me at the right tone.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not too hi, I'm not too low. You're fantastic,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Doctor Roberts. As always, thank you for coming into my world.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It's my third interview with you and a proverby thirty
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: days because your voice needs to be hurt and if
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: any way I can keep putting it out there so
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: more people can hear it and pursue the opportunity that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: you are making available globally and as well as in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: North Carolina and specifically where you started in library. But
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: more importantly, keep winning, my friend, and we'll talk soon.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much for having me.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to this episode.
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