Latest / Uncluttered and Unfiltered: The Podcast For Women Over 50 / RELIVING OUR DISCO DAYS WITH SPECIAL GUEST KC! (KC AND THE SUNSHINE BAND)
Transcript
- 0:04Welcome to Uncluttered and Unfiltered, the podcast urging
- 0:08you to let it go and don't look back, with nationally acclaimed
- 0:12professional organizer Christine Stone and self-proclaimed Hot
- 0:17Damn Mess radio and TV personality Eden Kendall.
- 0:21Welcome everyone to a very special edition of Uncluttered
- 0:25and Unfiltered. We have a special guest, I would
- 0:28say a mystery guest, but in order to attract more listeners,
- 0:31I'm sure we've put his name in the title and we'll be doing all
- 0:34kinds of advertising of this of this podcast.
- 0:37So remember when you were a big Donny Osmond fan?
- 0:41And so we decided to talk to Donny Osmond on the podcast.
- 0:47You remember. That you remember that and then
- 0:49remember that. I loved Sean Cassidy, so we
- 0:54reached out and Sean Cassidy was on our podcast.
- 0:57That was a. Fun day.
- 1:00It was a fun night when we went to his concert.
- 1:03We did and then you have been pretty recently to a concert
- 1:08from today's guest and you and I have tickets to go while you
- 1:12come when he's coming back through our.
- 1:14City. I can't wait in June and I'm
- 1:17talking about Mr. Harry Wayne Casey Casey of Casey and the
- 1:22Sunshine Band. I'm so excited and he is going
- 1:25to be popping into this recording very, very shortly.
- 1:31So let's talk a little bit about Casey of Casey and the Sunshine
- 1:35Band, or as I insisted to all of my friends when I was an avid
- 1:38reader of Tiger Beat. His names Harry.
- 1:41It's not Casey Terry. I didn't even know his name was
- 1:45Harry, I only know him as Casey and that I this is the first
- 1:50time I've even hearing that. I just didn't really think that
- 1:53he had. Because it's a very nerd thing
- 1:55to know. I mean, it's one of those things
- 1:57where you're like trying to show off because you read it
- 2:00somewhere, you know? I mean.
- 2:01I have loved this man for I can't tell you since I'm I'm of
- 2:08the era of the disco error, so I have.
- 2:11I've always loved Casey and the Sunshine Band.
- 2:14He was at my grad night in Orlando in 1980.
- 2:18We went. And saw him I every one of his
- 2:23songs was a hit during my high school year.
- 2:26So it was he I have nothing but wonderful things say and I went
- 2:30to his concert already in the fall.
- 2:33Yeah, it was in the fall and amazing.
- 2:36So we saw Casey and the Sunshine Band perform in the year 2000
- 2:41and it was at the Jaguars AFC championship game against the
- 2:46Titans and he came out, he did the halftime show and we
- 2:50proceeded to lose the game. So and did not go to the Super
- 2:54Bowl for that reason. And so my husband has a lot of
- 2:59beef with. Casey.
- 3:02Uh oh. He wasn't a good luck charm.
- 3:05But I could not love him anymore.
- 3:09And actually, I'm kidding. My husband is going to be our
- 3:12designated driver and photographer at the KC and the
- 3:14Sunshine Band shade. You're going to love him.
- 3:17I thought he was phenomenal. He'd has not missed a beat.
- 3:23He sounds exactly the same. I, I, I.
- 3:27It was just such a great show. And, and if I'm being honest, he
- 3:30looks like he's having every bit as much fun on stage as his
- 3:33audience. He, I, he looks like he is
- 3:36loving life right now. That's just what he looks like.
- 3:39So he, I think he loves this big resurgence.
- 3:44I mean, when I went, it was sold out.
- 3:46There was not, not one seat available.
- 3:49So it's he's he's doing great. And it was it's I think right
- 3:55now people are getting very nostalgic for old school songs.
- 4:00You get that type of thing. So it just brings you back to
- 4:03your childhood and it's a more innocent time.
- 4:06And I just, I'm thrilled to talk to him.
- 4:10I just love him. I remember doing a dance, so
- 4:13boogie shoes. You told me this was on the
- 4:16Saturday Night Fever soundtrack, and I didn't really remember
- 4:18that until you said it. But I also think it was the B
- 4:21side of one of his big songs because I remember doing a
- 4:24dance. Maybe it wasn't that song, but I
- 4:27feel like my friend and I made-up a dance.
- 4:30You know how you used to make up dances and make your parents
- 4:32come watch and that kind of thing?
- 4:33I, we did a dance to boogie. You know, it had to be Boogie
- 4:36shoes because I feel like I can't even remember.
- 4:39Or was it? I'm your boogie man?
- 4:41I'm your boogie man, No. No, I think it was Boogie shoes.
- 4:45I don't know. I want to put on.
- 4:47I don't think. I knew much about Boogie until
- 4:49that time. Boogie.
- 4:51But anyway, so we are going to be joined by Casey of Casey and
- 4:56the Sunshine Band and we're going to be right back.
- 5:11Here he is. He's our very special guest.
- 5:14Not a mystery because we couldn't keep a secret.
- 5:18It's Casey of Casey and the Sunshine Band, or as me as a
- 5:22little know it all girl used to tell my friends his name's
- 5:25Harry. It's not Casey, it's Harry.
- 5:28Do you, do you go only by Casey now?
- 5:30Or is that was that ever even a thing?
- 5:31My friends call me Harry, some call me Casey, and I have a
- 5:34nickname. Other people call me and.
- 5:37Do we? Do we get to know what that one
- 5:39is? Sparky.
- 5:40Sparky. Sparky, I love that.
- 5:42Can can we just call you that? Sure.
- 5:46Why is he sparky though from. From I I was very hyperactive
- 5:50kid. I think I don't know my
- 5:52grandmother kind of renamed all of her grandchildren and none
- 5:57none of us like I I never knew who my real cousins names were
- 6:01until like I was 50 years old. I, I was in the kitchen 2 of my
- 6:05cousins, Gloria and Tona, but but we called Gloria, Doty and
- 6:10Tona 2 years. I don't know.
- 6:13She's she's. And somebody says, hey, Gloria,
- 6:16I come and said, who's Gloria? That's fantastic.
- 6:20And that that was down in Miami. Yeah, down in Miami.
- 6:23So even though the two of us are here in Jacksonville, FL, we're
- 6:26both South Florida girls grew up on why?
- 6:29Why one? 100 Y. 100 Y one. 100 S Florida
- 6:35those. Were the days.
- 6:36Yes, those were the days. People don't understand growing
- 6:39up in Miami in the 80s and the 70s was totally different it.
- 6:46Was. It is, and we have so many
- 6:49questions. And I'm still here, so.
- 6:51Are you still are down there? I am, yeah.
- 6:54I lived in, I'm in Miami. I lived 10 miles from where I
- 6:57was born and where I grew up. OK, so, so Sparky, I mean Casey,
- 7:03I mean Harry, we my girlfriends and I had a type when I was in
- 7:07high school and it was Cuban guys.
- 7:10So we used to go to the Westland Mall and pop the hood of the car
- 7:15and just hang out and just see. You would come talk to us some
- 7:19assistance. That's awesome.
- 7:22While. Listening to your music.
- 7:24So do you feel responsible for that?
- 7:26I hope so. Well, we're so glad.
- 7:31We're so glad to have you. Christine actually has some well
- 7:34researched questions and things like that for you.
- 7:37But she saw you in concert and at the Did you go to Florida
- 7:41Theatre, Chris? Yeah, I went to the Florida
- 7:42Theatre. I saw you in the fall.
- 7:44Amazing concert and I loved, I mean, it was great.
- 7:49It was so much fun. Everyone was having such a good
- 7:52time and I was so excited because growing up in Miami in
- 7:58the 70s and 80s, that's all you heard and you were at my grad
- 8:03night in Orlando in 1980. So I, I've loved you forever and
- 8:09your music is, I mean, it's timeless.
- 8:13I have my kids dancing to it. I I mean, it's everywhere.
- 8:17So how does that feel to know that you're touching so many
- 8:20different generations? I mean, you know, our
- 8:22demographic has always been like that since the very beginning.
- 8:26And to know that, you know, it's sustained the test of time and
- 8:31we have 3 and 4 generations coming to the show sometimes
- 8:33it's pretty, pretty amazing. And I mean, it's a great
- 8:37feeling. I mean, I, you know, I made this
- 8:39music to bring happiness to to music and to people.
- 8:43And, you know, I'm glad that, you know, I'm able to do that
- 8:46and still, you know, and enjoy, enjoy the moment.
- 8:49So yeah, it's just, I mean, you know, you don't think of a lot
- 8:53of those things though. I mean, when you're growing up,
- 8:55when you're doing stuff and making the music, that would be.
- 8:59I feel sure that like so many people back in the 70s, you, you
- 9:03know, you weren't even thinking about ever how it would be like
- 9:06to be older. You know, we're all thinking
- 9:08about we're here in this moment, we're in, we're in the disco. 84
- 9:12I totally retired. I didn't want to have anything
- 9:15to do with the music business or music in it or ever again.
- 9:18And you know, 10 years later, Arsenio Hall wanted to see a
- 9:21reunion on the band on TV. And I went and did the the show
- 9:25and bells started ringing and thinking like my father's had
- 9:29passed and thinking like, you know, he'd said you should never
- 9:32give up. And James Brown tell me I should
- 9:35never give up. And all these things, all these
- 9:37things started clicking in my head and I realized that I had
- 9:40left something I really, really loved.
- 9:42And so I kind of started doing some shows with meeting the
- 9:45girls, some clubs and it was, you know, a lot of fun and put a
- 9:49band together and with the drug rehab in 95 and here I am.
- 9:54So go ahead, Chris. Well, I just like Speaking of
- 9:58youth. So when your songs started to
- 10:01become popular and your song was in Saturday Night Fever, are you
- 10:06able to appreciate that when you're younger or just now
- 10:10looking back on Wow? I mean, that's a big deal to me,
- 10:14it is. I never even saw the movie.
- 10:18You know, the first they they wanted to put Shake Your booty
- 10:20in the movie and I never even had seen the movie at all.
- 10:23And I, you know, I said, no, you can't do that.
- 10:25How about putting boogie shoes in because we were getting ready
- 10:27to release Shake Your Booty And so Boogie shoes in the movie.
- 10:30I don't think I saw it. I don't maybe a Barry and
- 10:33Maurice and Robin that I don't know if anybody ever saw the
- 10:36movie. And I didn't see the movie till
- 10:38years and years later and, you know, 'cause it was, I don't
- 10:43know. It's just, you know, who knew it
- 10:45was going to become, you know, such a huge motion picture and
- 10:49sell as many records. It didn't, you know, what
- 10:51happened with that movie. So I don't think, you know, knew
- 10:56what was going to happen there. And.
- 10:57Was was Boogie shoes AB side because I made-up a dance with
- 11:01my friend to that and I know I didn't go out and buy Boogie
- 11:04shoes at that time. It was the B side.
- 11:06It was the B side. It might have been the B side of
- 11:08Shake Your Booty. I can't.
- 11:10I don't. I'd have to go back and look
- 11:11now, but yeah. Because we made-up this dance
- 11:14and then no one had ever heard the song and were like, no, it's
- 11:16on. I have the record, I have the B,
- 11:18it's the B side. So can, can we go back to the
- 11:22you went to rehab in 95. So you're saying that throughout
- 11:25from from that time in the 70s all the way through into the
- 11:2880s, you were battling like that?
- 11:31No, no, I did all this in in the beginning of the 80s.
- 11:35OK. You know, just started testing
- 11:39and doing things that I never, ever would do in my, prior to
- 11:42that. And, you know, just, I, I,
- 11:46sadly, I enjoyed it. I was turned on to it by
- 11:49managers in LA and, you know, I, I, I liked it.
- 11:55And so that was my I, I, I, I started doing things in my 30s
- 12:02and I think people do in their teens.
- 12:04I don't know if I was making up for loss.
- 12:06I don't know what the hell I was thinking, really.
- 12:08Be honest with you, you know, not a great decision, but you
- 12:13know, I guess it was, it's all part of growing up.
- 12:15And I miss so much of growing up.
- 12:17I have no idea what it's like to be a normal 20 year old you
- 12:21know, and to to what normal 20 year olds go through in life
- 12:25you. Really don't.
- 12:27You know, it's, it's, it's completely missing part of my
- 12:30life. So how old were you when you
- 12:34first had your first hit record? 2223.
- 12:37Oh yeah, you were young. So, yeah, so you know, I, I
- 12:42don't know what those experience.
- 12:43I know that everything experience is up to that point.
- 12:45I just don't know what goes on after that.
- 12:50So does yeah, I mean, that's that's something that's so
- 12:53unbelievable to think about because it is such a rare little
- 12:56tiny bit of our population that experiences what you did more
- 13:00now with social media. For me to go to Westland Mall,
- 13:03they would pretty much close it down and close the store down
- 13:06and then I could go to the mall. You know it.
- 13:10That was the that was the life. Yeah.
- 13:13So. Was it now?
- 13:14Was it lonely at times? Very lonely.
- 13:17It was kind of the loneliest times of my life.
- 13:20Yeah. Yeah, What about now though?
- 13:22Can you all? Of this because we all have this
- 13:25desire to want to be around people, to want to be with, you
- 13:27know, in certain situations and you just can't it just, it's not
- 13:31possible even though if you try it just gets out of hand.
- 13:34It's just not possible. So it, I, it, it, it is, you
- 13:39know, a very, I think a very lonely moment for, for every
- 13:42artist. Can you, can you go out now?
- 13:46What is it like in the community now?
- 13:48I can. I mean, especially since I grew
- 13:49up, grew this and stuff, it's, it's easier, you know it.
- 13:53The other thing is it it took me 40 years or so to finally kind
- 13:59of understand what kind of it happened to, to actually
- 14:03accepted be comfortable with it my own success, to know how to
- 14:09deal with it in public and to handle it.
- 14:11And, you know, a lot of times I'd be really nervous about it
- 14:14and wouldn't know what to say and how to say it.
- 14:17And my boss said, my manager just said, you know, two things.
- 14:20He said when you walk out the front door, you belong to the
- 14:22public #2 just say thank you. I was like that easy.
- 14:28Oh, I love that. Yeah, it just, you know, and so,
- 14:34yeah, it's I, I get around pretty good.
- 14:38And, you know, it's, it's, it's good.
- 14:41It's all good. Well, we're glad you're getting
- 14:43around pretty good in the real world, out in the wild.
- 14:45But on stage you're really getting it.
- 14:48You're really getting down. You wake up sore after shows.
- 14:54I mean like, you know, I, I. Because your audience does.
- 14:57I mean, I, I do, I mean, I haven't been going as much as I
- 15:00was playing after the pandemic. That's where I gained all this
- 15:02weight. But I, you know, I was at the
- 15:04gym every day. I played tennis pretty much
- 15:08tried to play tennis every day that I can and got a little bit
- 15:13away from it. And Sunday it's my, I, I play
- 15:15with a trainer every, you know, every day I play tomorrow.
- 15:18Actually, I wanted to play today, but he wasn't available.
- 15:21Yeah. So when I saw you, you, you were
- 15:25dancing up a storm. And I even thought I told Eden,
- 15:28I said I don't know how he does it.
- 15:30At my age, I would never be able to do what he's I mean.
- 15:33I, I think, you know, I, I'm always kind of sore because
- 15:36after the car accident, you know, there's some permanent
- 15:39damage. And then I had back surgery back
- 15:42in 95, also 9495, I had to have the two, the L4 and five
- 15:47removed. So I'm limited to what I can do
- 15:50or whatever, but so I still have, you know, pain in my legs
- 15:53and things like that. So on a daily basis I probably
- 15:56wake up with pain. But you know, you kind of learn
- 15:59to deal with those things and you just get up and you go and
- 16:02find that, you know, the more I hurt that, the more if I
- 16:06exercise it, it feels better actually.
- 16:08So, you know, I think that's kind of the key too, is like
- 16:12just keep, you know. Well, we when I saw the Gloria
- 16:16Stefan musical, the jukebox musical, but it was about her
- 16:19life. I thought that you needed that
- 16:21you. We need to be able to go see a
- 16:23musical about your life. We want a mega mega mega
- 16:26Broadway Tony winning, award-winning.
- 16:28Show that's interesting because it just premiered in London last
- 16:31year and a major Tony Award-winning producer is going
- 16:35to be producing it for for the US here.
- 16:39I met with him a few few months a month ago and just waiting
- 16:44we're we're having to rewrite the the script because I mean I
- 16:49didn't realize that the different levels that a
- 16:52production goes to and you you put it out you test it and you
- 16:55get the feedback and the the reviews and then you change it
- 16:58and you put it out again and you test it and it's still in
- 17:01development. So I think this next step is
- 17:04going to be great. When he when we had the
- 17:08conversation a few few weeks ago whatever he actually brought me
- 17:12to tears. I mean it was just what what he
- 17:14what, what he what he saw and, and and what his kind of vision
- 17:19is of it's going to be and everything really brought a lot
- 17:21of emotions out of me. So I'm excited about it.
- 17:24It's it's more about my life growing up.
- 17:26You know in, in in Hialeah up up until the success.
- 17:29But all the songs are there's 22 songs in it summer new ones.
- 17:34It'll make you laugh, it'll make you cry, you know?
- 17:37It's, it's, I'm really proud of it and it's really exciting
- 17:40because it's, I don't know if it's going to be so much like a
- 17:42jukebox music because it's not about Casey in the sunshine.
- 17:45Then it's about me and growing up.
- 17:48With even better, so much better.
- 17:51I agree. Can we focus on the show for a
- 17:54minute and then we are seeing you June 3rd at the Florida
- 17:58Theatre in Jacksonville. But it's a tour and we are a
- 18:01global podcast as well as this will air locally and in
- 18:04Jacksonville on TV. So tell us what to expect.
- 18:08Well, I mean, you know, I, I, it's all the hits for sure.
- 18:11It's a production. There's fifteen of us on stage,
- 18:14the dancers, the singers and I like to share, you know, every
- 18:17moment. You know that the musicians are
- 18:19so talented and I, it wouldn't be right if I didn't let their
- 18:23talent shine through. Also because it is Casey and the
- 18:26Sunshine Band and there's just all these different moments that
- 18:30we put in the show. The show was originally
- 18:33choreographed by a guy named What's his name?
- 18:38He he, he he actually was part of the the last choreography of
- 18:48the Michael Jackson This Is It movie.
- 18:50Can you? Ortega not not Kenny, but his
- 18:53associate, I. Wow.
- 18:57Yeah, so, so bits of pieces then.
- 19:00We also brought in Lisa recently.
- 19:03Who didn't love the career for the musical to re choreograph
- 19:06the girls and, and, and, and parts that I do?
- 19:09So yeah, it's, I mean, it's, you know, it's a it's a show.
- 19:12It's it's, it's a production. It's you know, some people say
- 19:16it's Vegas, but I mean, it's just, you know, I want to
- 19:20entertain everyone and I want everyone to have a good time.
- 19:22And there's a lot of bits and pieces of the music.
- 19:25You know, we, I do some covers because I'd rather do covers and
- 19:28things, not full covers of them, but bits and pieces of things
- 19:32that people know and they're familiar with it.
- 19:34You know, I mean, I want you to be familiar with as much as
- 19:35possible in this show. But if you're really a die hard
- 19:38fan, there's lots of bits and pieces that go on throughout the
- 19:41show, you know, and that that we put in there.
- 19:43And I, I, I think it's a great show and, you know, I enjoy it a
- 19:48lot. A lot of the audiences enjoy it.
- 19:49Not a lot of them. All of them do.
- 19:51I loved it and you loved. It and we're going back.
- 19:54We're going to be. There, we're going back all
- 19:56twice in one year. I mean, that's how much I love
- 19:58to. Do.
- 19:59That's awesome. Great.
- 20:00I can't wait to be there. We cannot wait.
- 20:02So thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for the time.
- 20:06I love your energy. We're just super fans.
- 20:10You know, beyond the Super fans, it's just I think this is your
- 20:14energy in your life and and that's amazing to see because
- 20:18we're a lot of people are missing that and you got you
- 20:21girls, you ladies are missing that and I think that's amazing.
- 20:25Oh. Thank you.
- 20:26Thank you. We were so excited.
- 20:29I personally was so excited to see you and meet you.
- 20:32I've been a fan since the 70s so.
- 20:35And Chris is enamored. She has a girl crush on someone
- 20:37on that was on your stage, that is Marie.
- 20:40Marie. It's amazing.
- 20:42She's close to our age, so I think she's younger than us,
- 20:45but. She's probably younger, but she
- 20:48was amazing on stage, yeah. I think she just turned 65 maybe
- 20:53OK. Yeah.
- 20:54So I mean, that's phenomenal. I mean, she was, so I can.
- 20:59Definitely say hello for her please.
- 21:00Do yes, just tell her I'm a I'm a girl fan.
- 21:03I. Have Rachel get yourself.
- 21:05We want her on our show. We would love to talk.
- 21:07Really wanted her, yeah. Oh yeah.
- 21:10Sure, I would love it. I would love it.
- 21:12After I saw you, I immediately said to Eden, there is a backup
- 21:17singer that is probably younger than me, but she was amazing.
- 21:21I want to know where she gets her energy.
- 21:23I want to sell. She's an Italian and she has one
- 21:28of the most amazing voices you've ever heard in your entire
- 21:31life. So she's going to be with you in
- 21:34Jacksonville? Absolutely.
- 21:35Oh yeah, maybe we can meet. Yeah, you can for sure.
- 21:39Fangirl. OK, so we're going to let you go
- 21:41because again I said I want to be respectful and here we are
- 21:44like taking you 5. Days.
- 21:45Thank you. And we're back.
- 21:57It is time now, even though we had such a very special guest
- 22:01joining us for this episode, we're still going to sneak in
- 22:03that organizational tip like we do.
- 22:05And we are in Florida. So you may may still be in luck
- 22:13in some parts of Florida, maybe not all the way South where
- 22:16Casey's from, but you might still have temperatures that
- 22:19will allow you to clean out your garage.
- 22:22You better get on it. You better get on it in the in
- 22:25Florida and at least up north in those areas they have they still
- 22:29have a lot more time. But in Florida, yes, we do hit a
- 22:32window. And the reason why I like to
- 22:35talk about garages, especially in the spring, early summer, not
- 22:39only is it the perfect time to do it, but it allows you open
- 22:44that garage door, get your ducks in a row and really get rid of
- 22:49the stuff that you no longer, if you're an empty nester and you
- 22:53still have all your, your kids sports equipment, let it go,
- 22:56donate it. I those type of things.
- 22:59If you don't garden anymore, but you have tons of gardening
- 23:02things, let it go. Old paint cans, make sure you
- 23:06dispose of them properly because you can't just throw them in the
- 23:09garbage can. So you'd need to check locally
- 23:12where you can dispose of them. But how many people have 20-30
- 23:15cans of empty paint that has been sitting in the garage for
- 23:2010 years just going through and really, really doing a heavy
- 23:26cleanup so that by the time summer rolls around, your garage
- 23:31has only the things you're going to use and make it your goal to
- 23:35be able to park your car in the garage.
- 23:37I cannot tell you how many houses that I do and then parked
- 23:41a car in their garage in five years.
- 23:44And when we're done, they're like, Oh my gosh, I can park my
- 23:46car, car in here. Now a garage is should be
- 23:50considered part of the home. A lot of times people put
- 23:54everything in the garage that they don't want, but yet they
- 23:57don't get rid of it. It just becomes a nightmare in
- 24:01the garage full of things people don't want or don't know what to
- 24:05do with. So really tackling your garage,
- 24:08getting your ducks in a row, like I said on what you're going
- 24:10to do with the items you're going to get rid of.
- 24:13But I'm telling you, you will be so happy once you come home to a
- 24:18clean, organized garage. Do you think this is also a good
- 24:23time to go ahead and schedule and a lot of times when you're
- 24:25talking about different areas of your home that you get, you go
- 24:28ahead and schedule the donation to kind of force your hand?
- 24:32Yes, that is the perfect time because all they do is back that
- 24:36truck in and you just point and they take it away.
- 24:40It's also a good time if there are larger items in your house
- 24:44or bigger things that you've been meaning to get rid of.
- 24:46I don't know, lamps, curtains, whatever it is to put it out in
- 24:52the garage if you've scheduled someone to do a pickup.
- 24:55That way you're also getting rid of some items in your home at
- 25:00the same time. You might as well do it while
- 25:02someone's coming anyway. But yes, definitely schedule a
- 25:06pickup for the garage because it's so easy for them to back
- 25:10their truck in and just take it away.
- 25:13OK, All right, well, this has been a very all over the place
- 25:16in a very fun way episode getting a chance to talk to
- 25:19Casey of Casey and the Sunshine Band.
- 25:21Of course, you'll get our full report when we go to the show
- 25:24like we did with the other shows we've been to.
- 25:26And let's see what else. How can we end this?
- 25:29I think we we should do a garage thing on this.
- 25:32If you have a garage full of sports equipment that nobody is
- 25:36ever going to use, you can let it go.
- 25:39And don't look back.