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June 15, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 1: No reason to get excited.
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  Speaker 2: The three being kind of school, and that a man
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  Speaker 2: in here among.
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  Speaker 1: Us go through the nightness. But the joke, but you
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  Speaker 1: would not be spent through that thing.
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  Speaker 3: And this is not our face.
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  Speaker 4: So now it's the talking boss thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I was still in the labor.
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  Speaker 1: University drive in front of audio video. That's the killer.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in this portion of the program, I brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by Superior Air Repair. Were joined by Rusty person. This
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  Speaker 1: is not going away anytime soon. I think Texas Tech
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  Speaker 1: wanted it to go away, Rusty. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: they did, but I don't think it's going away. The
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  Speaker 1: Big Twelve Board of Directors released a statement Today's confirming
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  Speaker 1: what had already been reported. They've in fact filed a
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  Speaker 1: legal complaint in a federal court asking to protect the
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  Speaker 1: constitutional and contractual rights of the Big Twelve to be
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  Speaker 1: able to govern The Big Twelve basically as they see fit.
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  Speaker 1: Apart from intervention from the courts. A third state has
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  Speaker 1: joined Oklahoma and Kansas Utah in a lawsuit against Texas
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  Speaker 1: Tech and the Texas Attorney General.
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  Speaker 4: I think the guy leading that Oklahoma charge is running
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  Speaker 4: for governor.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, which makes sense, very popular opinion, Okaying, after sure, sure, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense. Utah. I don't know what their political
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  Speaker 1: motives are, but I don't know what the Kansas political
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  Speaker 1: motives are.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know either.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, they're clean, very clean in Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very, very very clean city.
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  Speaker 1: I would say the same about Sedona, Arizona. Everyone loves Sedona.
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  Speaker 1: It is a beautiful place. But I didn't stay around
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  Speaker 1: there very long. Remember too many crystals for me.
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  Speaker 4: I remember walking down when when I played.
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  Speaker 1: Utah, remember that, Yeah, yeah, I was there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I remember walking down streets.
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  Speaker 1: It was very like I said, that was the Joe Kinds,
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  Speaker 1: was it, Joe con No no no no, no no
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  Speaker 1: no no.
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  Speaker 4: You talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the wow wow wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember. Yeah, we will, but anyway, yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: that's a weird city and they never want to go
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  Speaker 4: back there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have any I I kind of
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  Speaker 1: liked it. I didn't have any issues.
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  Speaker 4: My daughter when she was walking down the streets in
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  Speaker 4: New Orleans with us one time, she she had to
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  Speaker 4: look real bad vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that I can understand. There's a lot of voodoo.
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  Speaker 4: Going on in Oran, she said to us, And we
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  Speaker 4: we stayed the night as we were driving somewhere, and
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  Speaker 4: she said, I don't think we're supposed to be here.
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  Speaker 1: We're not supposed to be She's very perceptive.
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  Speaker 4: She was very perceptive.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of voodoo going on there and that
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  Speaker 1: and probably in Love It too, but they probably in
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  Speaker 1: Love Book two.
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  Speaker 4: You know. I just think that this.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, the NC double A now has
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  Speaker 1: awakened and they have filed a formal appeal in the
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  Speaker 1: courts saying every day this injunction remains in effect, the
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  Speaker 1: harm compounds the NC double a's governance authority. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know they had any the roads copycat litigation becomes more likely.
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  Speaker 1: That's true, and the integrity of every contest in which
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  Speaker 1: an ineligible athlete competes is called in a question that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of inflammatory. I'm not sure that's true either. But
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  Speaker 1: they say, a stay of the injunction would halt this
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  Speaker 1: ongoing harm to the organization.
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  Speaker 4: Could unify the SEC, the Big twelve, the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did it.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is adamantly opposed to Texas Tech right now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So, and I know we discussed this a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, some of this moral superiority are coming
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  Speaker 1: from people that probably don't have a leg to stand on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Saying, because they're cheating too. I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why this has become the issue, and I'm fine
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  Speaker 1: with it if it brings about some kind of change.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to Honestly, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we're going to see a lot of change. As we've
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  Speaker 1: talked before. And look, I understand the implications of betting.
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  Speaker 1: I understand the implications of throwing a game. And a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback probably has more control over a college football game
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  Speaker 1: except for maybe a coach or running back, than anybody does. Right,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say quarters more probably, so yeah, probably, So it's
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  Speaker 1: really easy.
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  Speaker 4: You would be really easy for a quarterback and specifically.
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  Speaker 1: Throw a pick the ball during a sack especialty bets, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so turn over under turnovers.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you don't have to have to necessarily throw
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  Speaker 4: a game. True, So true, that's the danger.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not I'm not in any way supporting what
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  Speaker 1: Brenda Soresby has done or what Texas Tech has done. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's despicable to And of course they immediately
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  Speaker 1: had to come out and say, oh, you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what what uh how we're holding him accountable, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're we're not saying he's going to play that third
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  Speaker 1: game after the two game suspension. We're all about his
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  Speaker 1: well being. I've heard that crap for I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how many years, and I've been covering college football about
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  Speaker 1: forty plus that we're all about the student athlete. That's garbage.
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  Speaker 4: Go sit out those first first games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's so much garbage, right, I mean, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, man, just come out and say it. Look,
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  Speaker 1: we think we have a pretty good team and we
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  Speaker 1: went to the playoffs last year. We think we can
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  Speaker 1: go this year, but we can't go without this quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: In the light up because that's what they're saying without saying,
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  Speaker 4: of course.
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  Speaker 1: Well it says we you know, our season screwed if
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  Speaker 1: this guy had come on the field, right.
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  Speaker 4: And they've already invested five million, are.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and we need him on the field, And so
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  Speaker 1: all the other gobblet that that's garbage and I'd have
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  Speaker 1: much more respect they come out and say, look, it's
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  Speaker 1: his right to play, blah blah blah. You can't keep
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  Speaker 1: him from playing. He's he's been to his thirty day rehab.
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  Speaker 1: He's fine, uh, you know, and he's going to start.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The problem, ship is that it's not just to me
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  Speaker 4: what the game one is. It's like, okay, we've set
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  Speaker 4: a present here that if you don't like something, just
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  Speaker 4: go to the court.
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  Speaker 1: That president's or already been set even before this right
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  Speaker 1: now case and here in college station and another college
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  Speaker 1: town exactly you know that, Yeah, that president's been set.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm thrilled and you got to play.
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  Speaker 1: He was so he was so fun to watch, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and and a really good kid and and
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  Speaker 1: and that's good on him. But but that's not what
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about a gambling issue. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: an eligibility issue. So this, yeah, I understand, this is
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  Speaker 1: more serious. I get that it's more serious.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, what's next is murder? But
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  Speaker 4: that didn't stop Alabama from playing a guy I mean right, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, just like well, there was a kid I
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  Speaker 4: was I was grabbing a subway or a sandwich on Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: and his kid from text Tech and he had a
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  Speaker 4: U shirt on. It had an ice cooler on the
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  Speaker 4: back Text Tech logo don't hate us because we're cool.
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  Speaker 4: I walked over to him, I said, I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that's why people are hating a Tech right now?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah wherever?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he just shook his head again. I don't even
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  Speaker 4: know what we're doing over there, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's so, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: There has to be some embarrassment by some section of
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  Speaker 1: the alumni, right absolutely, I mean does it there? Like
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  Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't. Wasn't there some embarrassment about A
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  Speaker 1: and M fans when Johnny was was going crazy? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 1: I mean but he's still our guy. I mean, don't
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  Speaker 1: get me wrong, but.
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  Speaker 4: You still loved Washington. Yes, But was I surprised when
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  Speaker 4: he didn't open his playbook at Cleveland?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, right?
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  Speaker 4: Surprised that he didn't make it in the NFL because
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  Speaker 4: he wasn't taking.
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  Speaker 1: Care of the body or mind. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, yeah, because he was allowed to do all that.
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  Speaker 1: Of course he's not present. This is the same issue
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  Speaker 1: we have talked about in college athletics now for thirty
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  Speaker 1: forty fifty years, is that kids who are really good
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  Speaker 1: are given passes from junior high on. Yeah, right, and
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  Speaker 1: sometime before that, unfortunately, but but from junior high on
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  Speaker 1: they're they're giving passes because they're good at whatever sports
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  Speaker 1: they're participating it, and so they grow up with this
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  Speaker 1: idea that we're entitled. And so we have fostered now
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  Speaker 1: two and three generations worth of kids who think they're entitled. Right,
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  Speaker 1: And Brendan Soresby has a disease, or he wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: placed sixty thousand bets. Okay, he has a disease, and
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  Speaker 1: from that standpoint, I feel badly for that. But he
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  Speaker 1: tried to hide it as all people would disease, as
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  Speaker 1: alcoholics try to hide it right from people they love
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  Speaker 1: or from whatever they don't want people knowing their alcoholics.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't know what friends and family knowing. He has
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  Speaker 1: a gambling addiction. But he's getting other people to place
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  Speaker 1: bets for him because he gets caught. So I mean
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  Speaker 1: It's not like the kid is innocent. He is not innocent.
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  Speaker 4: Here's one of the problems. Is it okay? So if
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  Speaker 4: we allow brings.
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  Speaker 1: Or to play, which I'm not advocating.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, then who's to say, I mean what
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  Speaker 4: the text texts next quarterback to do the same thing, right,
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  Speaker 4: Because that's what happened with Johnny Manziel is Johnny was
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  Speaker 4: allowed to do anything he wanted to. And guess why
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  Speaker 4: Kenny Hill didn't work out because Kenny Hill modeled Johnny
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  Speaker 4: Manziel no doubt, and Kevin Someone had. That was my
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  Speaker 4: biggest issue with Kevin Someone.
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  Speaker 1: He was a discipline.
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  Speaker 4: He just allowed it to happen, and he ruined the
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  Speaker 4: future teams by setting the standard that Johnny can do
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  Speaker 4: whatever Johnny wants.
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  Speaker 1: It takes a while to get that out of the system,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean the culture, it takes a while.
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  Speaker 1: It's obviously took a while to change the student worker.
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  Speaker 1: But then Jimbo comes in and from what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have any a lot of discipline either, right,
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  Speaker 1: apparently not.
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  Speaker 4: Even though his whole voice was so different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he talked differently. He talked a good game, but
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  Speaker 1: apparently but they didn't have the accountability with the players what.
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  Speaker 4: Mike Yoko has brought in. And you heard all those
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  Speaker 4: players say right away, Okay, it's different.
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  Speaker 1: Around here, correct, and we can't be late to a
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  Speaker 1: meeting anymore or or skip a meeting anymore. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: the thing is like with Johnny, you know, we have
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  Speaker 1: that stuff plays out on the field, as you well know,
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  Speaker 1: well know.
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  Speaker 4: Well the the student worker told me she was she's
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  Speaker 4: waited tables or waited at a bar, and so it
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  Speaker 4: was a late late Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: That's still a small community from that respect, by the way, and.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, he's ordering drinks and she said,
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: you know, technically it's Friday and y'all play LSU tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: I think you should. He's like, just bring me the drink.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well okay, so you know that's the legend
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  Speaker 4: of Johnny. But then that what happened is that Kenny
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  Speaker 4: Hill followed and that's how I ended up in a
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  Speaker 4: planner in north Gate.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it's sad it is.
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  Speaker 4: Because he could have been a very very talent, very
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  Speaker 4: very good quarterback. Yah one good game. But anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I just the problem is you have open Pandora's box
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  Speaker 4: and it has to.
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  Speaker 1: Fign a friendly judge, right, go to court, get an injunction,
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  Speaker 1: and by the time the court data set, which this
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  Speaker 1: one has been for February, yeah, right, p February. And
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: that's why all these people are saying no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: on this one, we ain't playing that game. We're not
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  Speaker 1: waiting till February. Okay, we're gonna follow suit, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: ask and I and I don't know legally if they
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  Speaker 1: say that.
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  Speaker 4: So kids state when they came out with this, and like,
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  Speaker 4: we're not gonna play, well, yeah, they're not on the schedule,
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  Speaker 4: so don't worry about that. And there's contracts, right, and
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  Speaker 4: you cannot just not play text Tech if you're a
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  Speaker 4: member of the Big Twelve, exactly you because you would
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  Speaker 4: automatically forfeit that game, and you cannot forfeit the game
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  Speaker 4: and give them the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: So I think what the Big Twelve is asking is
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  Speaker 1: to be able to go in and tell Texas Tech
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  Speaker 1: your games aren't going to count. Okay, you're forfeiting every
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  Speaker 1: game you play, or or you're going to take action
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  Speaker 1: that we deem responsible with with your athletes. Right in
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  Speaker 1: this particular situation. They're asking the court for leeway to
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  Speaker 1: say to protect what they call the constitutional and contractual
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  Speaker 1: rights of the contract for our member institutions right as
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  Speaker 1: a league. They're asking for what they thought they already
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  Speaker 1: had before the courts came in and said, no, you
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't make these kind of decisions
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  Speaker 1: because the court has ruled otherwise. So they're following a
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  Speaker 1: federal injunction saying, look, we have to be able to
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  Speaker 1: govern our schools by the and play and get them
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  Speaker 1: to play by the rules.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I soluting for doing this in advance, because a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times it happens retrospectively. Right, Yes, So you
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  Speaker 4: take ready after the fact, Yeah, the heisman you don't
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  Speaker 4: really had, you didn't really win.
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  Speaker 1: That ridiculous. That that's stuff. That's that's stuff stupid.
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  Speaker 4: It is dumb.
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  Speaker 1: It's after the fact when the forfeit. Yeah, yeah, later, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it take it off the coaches record, Well, the games
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: have already been played exactly that. That's stupid.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're penalizing the current players for what's happened
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: in the past, right, And that's stupid too. But how
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: that works, it is I don't know if there what
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: is uh July. I mean there's only about ten weeks
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: right before the season starts. Eleven weeks. I think I
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: saw eighty days a little bit more than that. Courts
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  Speaker 1: don't usually work that fast, work fast at all, right,
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  Speaker 1: Judges ain't going to be pushed into make it a decision.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know that any of this. It sounds
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  Speaker 1: good and they have to do it, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: they did it, but I don't know if it's going
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  Speaker 1: to change anything.
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  Speaker 4: And part of me says, like, just go out there
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  Speaker 4: and whip their butts on the field.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they're going to get a lot of that right now.
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  Speaker 1: Our team's good enough to do it. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, but they're gonna get a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: as if they weren't gonna get it anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be amped up with a whole new level,
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  Speaker 4: but it'll be amped up. Visit opposing stadiums will be
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: amped up for Tech.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: They will which before the Tech could have walked in
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: there and have been quiet and got out on to win.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I'll watch the b YU game, but that was played
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: during the day. That's usually pretty hard place to play.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: They go in and they just punk by you all
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: over the field, just like they did in the championship game,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, because they were pretty good. Uh. But again,
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  Speaker 1: they think they can get to the college football playoffs
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  Speaker 1: this year with this kid at quarterback. Well, and I
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: think they probably if he was a third team tackle,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: he'd be off the team right, Well, yes, he'd be
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: off the team if he was a third team tackle,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a third team anybody, he'd be gone, Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're we weren't tolerate gambling at our university. We're going
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to send a message to the rest of the team
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  Speaker 1: and any of the moms and dads who are thinking
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  Speaker 1: about sending their kids to Lubbuck. By Golly, we're not
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  Speaker 1: going to put up with gambling exactly.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been for the president.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely all the way down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the football coach, the whole.
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  Speaker 1: And now it's like, oh no, we're we're for this kid.
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  Speaker 1: We think we're gonna you know, we're going to take
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: care of this kid.
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  Speaker 4: I just like the language of that. You know the
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: damage you would do to him if you please part
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: of the camaraderie of this football.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Please, Maybe you should have thought of that before he
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: placed his fifty nine thousand bet. You know. Yeah, and again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to make light. This is a disease, right,
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  Speaker 1: This kid has a problem. And as we mentioned, this
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: is not the last we're going to hear of this.
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  Speaker 1: It cannot be because there's too many college kids gambling.
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  Speaker 1: I was watching. You can't turn on the TV. I'm watching.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: You cannot watch a sporting event. You can't turn on
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the ESPN. I was watching hockey last night. They have
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  Speaker 1: odds on you know, who's scored the next goal on
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: what the over under is. Go on fan Duels right
• 18:15
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's too easy, and we're just this is
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the tip of the If I'm a coach, I'm scared
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: to death. I am scared to death.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: This is where we go back and were talking about
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: the ni L and these kids not having a train,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: about having to pay taxes, which is.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: The other thing. They have money now to spend money.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: They have more nicer cars than the faculty.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course they do, because some of them are
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: getting paid, you know, coaches.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so, but the life skills are gonna be really
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: important because I can just see this kid can't can't
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: afford to pay his taxes, so he volunteers to throw
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: a game to help make up for it, to pay
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: the gambling so that he can.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Pay or being debt because he's a bad gambler, right right.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much sores be lost. I mean
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I think there's records I haven't seen. I've seen him
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: any bets he's placed. I don't know how you know
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: how much money lost. But when did he get fired?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: You said he got five millia to come to Tech.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, so he can he go.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Fourd to lose. But but some of these guys not not.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Let's let's be clear. He's a quarterback. Now, everybody's making
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: five million dollars at Texas A and M or Texas
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Tech or anywhere else, right, they're not.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: No, And this this problem goes back to Michael Jordan.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I mean there's a reason he wouldn't get played baseball.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was forced out. Yeah, he was forced
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: out of the league. Absolutely, he said you better. They
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: told him, you get straightened out, or are you not
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: coming back to play basketball.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Right because he was in with some dark, dark folks,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: dark hey, and.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: He told Phil Nichols in the same spot he was.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: Making some serious money. And yet he still is in
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: a difficult situation.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson was deep in debt, deep in debt, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it still may be for all I know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's sad.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It's right. So again for the kid getting help. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I'm also for I'm also for yeah, for athletes. I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: also for punishment. When you do things wrong, when you
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: break the rules, you should be punished, and it should
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the punishment should fit the crime. Two games and sixty
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: thousand bets to me doesn't fit the crime. Thirty day,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: thirty days in a gambling addiction facility in my mind,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and I don't know enough about it. I don't think
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that's enough. I don't think that's enough to come out
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: and say, oh, you're clean, and Kirby Hokutt, Oh, he's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: got to meet all these requirements and we're meeting every day.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe they are. That's great, Maybe they are. That still
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: does not give him the right to play quarterback at
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Texas Tech.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Well, It's like I said, the things that makes athletes
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: great is their competitive bands.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Absolutely their ego.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: And the fact that they think that they can't be defeated.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And they're untouchable and untouchable. But that's at that age,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you're really untouchable.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: What about pride?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Pride goes for the yall right, yeah, you're well, the thing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: That makes them get into that kind of dead is
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: because they they just know they're going to win the
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: next one.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, so let's just ride this onean. You don't
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: think Pete Rose was competitive? Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: well double down tomorrow, Yeah, you know where it will
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: double down tomorrow.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's just a terrible.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: And again, some people it is a disease like alcoholism
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: or sexual addiction or whatever. It's a drug addiction. It's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: a disease, and you don't know, there are happy innings,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't know too many where they just go
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: in and come out and go Okay, I don't have
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: any desire to bet anymore. Right, I don't have any
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: desire to drink anymore. Don't you talk to an alcoholic?
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And every day is a battle. And my thinking is,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: with that disease and still have a cell phone, every
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: day has to be a struggle for that kid. Every day,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: and I think you're doing them a huge disservice. I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: agree with you, But I saw a thing today. If
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: they do rule, if somebody one quarter or something, if
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this kid is not allowed to play,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: then he's going to go into the NFL supplemental draft, right.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: I mean that's an option, you know, the kids in
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: a He's already guys his five.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Million, so one way or the other.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's my understanding. And that's why I
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: takes so adaman about one of this kid to play.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Trying to get their money's worth.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: They're trying to get their money's worth. They probably spent
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the five million, so right now, I don't think that
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: they can go back on that.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So I don't understand all of the contracts and all
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the issues. You know, it seems to be you'd have
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: contracts that if he violated a contract, he'd get to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: keep five million dollars. But you know, I don't know.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Ye, I don't know how it all works either.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But it's also like contracts in that there's other schools
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: that were buying for his services. Sure, his agent comes
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: on and says, look, we've been offered five million somewhere else.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: But we want his contract up front, right, we want
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the five million, like I'm saying, like you said, and
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like, hey, school ax is going
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to pay us, you know in five installments. You know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: we want like a signing bonus, which you know they
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: can do, right, they're agents, these guys are pros. We
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: want a signing bonus. So I'm sure he's already got
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: whatever percentage of what that five million is.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: I got breaking news here for Okay, well, wait a minute,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: seven day concussion.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I l seven day. I didn't know there was a seven.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Day apparently for concussions.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, they already said he was at concussion symptoms.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: They had the collision.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I saw the collision. I thought I heard at the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: time that if he'd have been running hard from the beginning,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: there wouldn't have been a collision. But I know that
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: he also wait a minute, I also know he has
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: leg issues and thought there wasn't going to be an
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: issue at the plate, right, I mean, he scored the run,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: which they needed. But it's crazy, and now Helman's got
• 25:07
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• 25:13
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  Speaker 4: Heck for cats. He did, he did. But yeah, it's
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: it's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Spy in Tech. You watched any college World Series this weekend?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thanks for showing album impression.
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  Speaker 1: Oh good gosh. Let's say fourteen to nine that were
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  Speaker 1: outscored twenty three to two at two games. Yeah, got
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: a pitch.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, man, that's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it is. I mean, uh, ole miss at least
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  Speaker 1: scored and played, you know, decent baseball.
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  Speaker 4: Impressed with Troy and West Virginia. Troy can hit, they
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  Speaker 4: like they belong there. Yeah, and they're well.
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  Speaker 1: They've they've got an elimination game tomorrow. Uh that they're
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  Speaker 1: one of those will continue tomorrow afternoon and then they'll
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  Speaker 1: have to beat North Carolina twice, which is not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: That's I don't think it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: No, But I salute them because they showed up. They
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: came to plug.
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  Speaker 1: They did they played with the passion.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Alabama didn't pluy, they did not and you know what
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  Speaker 4: Texas did doing today, it was just.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: It was embarrassing. But but you know, uh again they
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: they help. They helped their own cause they kicked the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: ball around. But Texas, you know, just killed the pitching.
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  Speaker 1: They came out really aggressive because they were embarrassed. Was
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: it Saturday they played Georgia embarrassed seventy to one, right, yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: but they kicked the ball all over the field too.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: They were just terrible. They didn't pitch that in catch,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that didn't hit.
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  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: They just looked like a bad team. They look like
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Alabama and today they look like a good team. But
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: but you don't know, you know, Alabama helped rite help
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that and the kid the shortstop uh had seven RBIs,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: which tied College World Series record. Who was only the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: third player ever to hit for the cycle, Adrian Rodriguez,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: And they had to change an umpires to a scoring
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: decision after the fact, and I didn't see it. Everyone
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: said it was the right call, that the that they
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: the score made the bad call to begin with. Uh.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But just in case, he had a fifth hit and double,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: an RBI and the ninth and the eighth inning.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So seven RBIs five for five hit for the cycle. Uh.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: But again, they would have to be providing Georgia beats
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma tonight. I think they will. They would have to
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: beat Georgia twice. I don't see that happen. I think Georgia.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I think Georgia Oklahoma is playing well and they could
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: win the game. They're gonna have to outslug them, I think.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I think they're in. They're capable of it
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Well right now, they'rehitt the hitting everything, right. But I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: just I like Georgia and I like North Carolina, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I think those are the two best teams.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Does Sally The rest of the country is rooted for
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: North Carolina?
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Oh but against the SEC?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah probably if you're interested in college baseball, yeah probably,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: and you're not an SEC guy.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, well they're five five at eight right.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: The whole SEC bracket, but they did the whole SEC
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: bracket because they don't want two SEC teams playing for
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the championship. Probably could have happened. I mean, but but
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: old Miss, you know they were they were the loan
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: one in that half of the brackets, so they were
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: probably ever gonna win. On the other end of the
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: back bracket. The way Oklahoma is playing, I would say Georgia, Texas,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and oak Lahoma would all be worthy champions right right now.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So I still think an SEC team is going to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: be going to be the champion. I tell you, if
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: some team other than Georgia comes out of the bottom
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: half of the brackety, either Texa or Oklahoma, they will
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: have really earned it. But they may not have any
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: pitching left. That's why you just in that double elimination format,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: which I'm not a fan of. Man, you got to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: win because you don't have pitching left.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: No, exactly, right, So I mean it's I think you're right.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I was looking this up. The SEC has seventeen titles
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: college will series. That's second best behind the PAC ten
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: pack twelve. Yeah. Yeah, and that's just because USC was so.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Don USC and then Arizona State had to run as well. Yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: those are the only two teams.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: He has twelve titles.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Still far and away. LSU's next with eight, yeah, and
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: then Arizona State has five. Right, so yeah, I mean
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: it's but therefore it's just dominant for a while. If
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: you look at you have to go back to twenty eighteen.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Well, now you put now you put taxes at the SEC,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: and they've been dominant in baseball, right, and Oklahoma's had
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a good run.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: You have to go back to twenty eighteen to find
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: a non SEC winner.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, so Vandy and four, I mean five, So there's
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: been six straight SEC teams.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Vandy, mississipp State, Old Miss, LSU, Tennessee, LSU.
• 35:42
  Speaker 14: Right, oh yeah, pretty dominant, pretty dominant, dominant.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: But before that it was like Coastal Carolina, Florida, Oregon State. Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: I mean, but yeah, I think the point is, I
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: think if you're interested in college baseball.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: And you're not SEC guy, yeah, yeah, probably route for.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: North Carolina because you're sick of washing every year.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Well, they've they've just you know, you can't, I mean,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you can't understate how dominant they've been. They've just been
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the best. Well and you know, now we know that
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: could change. Like you mentioned before, that little run before
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the run, right, it seemed like it was only l
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: SU that was uh, you know what.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: The interesting thing is that you go back at twenty
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: twenty one, Missiggan State beat Vanderbilt to win it all. Yes,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, LSU beat Florida to win. Yes, Tennessee
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: beat Texas A and M Yes.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: So yeah, It's been both a lot of SEC domination
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: in there, and.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: This year has been no different. Frankly, I mean, the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: whole bottom half of the brackets, the SEC, it's been
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: no different. I mean, they've just been the best at
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: what they at what they've done. And and you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: because of the because of regionality. I mean you look
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: at UCLA, and I don't care what you say, they
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a Big ten represented. I still can't
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: get my head around that.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: It's nuts. I still don't look at Arizona and Arizona
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: State as members of the Big twelve. I forget that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: every day. It's none of it's right, none of it
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: is right. Stanford is not the ACC right, I mean,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: it's just it ain't right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I've led the Big twelve and all this because they
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: got West Virginia. But just that was the start of everything.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: No, the start of it, I tell you, the start
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: of the dominoes falling when Nebraska went to the Big Ten.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: When when Nebraska left for they have never ever been.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: The same, nor will they ever, and.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think they will either in anything.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: They're still really good volleyball.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I started the same volleyball. It's like, okay, you can
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: have that.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: And they actually had freaking basketball team this year.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: They did for the first time. Okay, for the first time.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Let's see if they can sustain that. They won a
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: game in the tournament. I'm not sure they can sustain that.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: But when that domino fell, and Colorado's never been the same, right.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Because when this Big twelve started, Colorado and Nebraska.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Really good because they and Oklahoma. Yeah right, but the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: front the old Big eight.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but in particular, I remember Nebraska and Colorado being so.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And they hate each other. They hate each other. That
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: was a great rivalry.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoyed watching some of those games.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: That was a great rivalry. They just really hated each other.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: We missed those days. You don't miss Kansas and Missouri Nebraska.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: You Nebraska, Oklahoma on Thanksgiving weekend, on Thanksgiving Day.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of times they played on fri
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: they did.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: They played some on Farriddi, no doubt. Okay, you remember
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: they had the worst turf in all oh it's brutal.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Every year it has like how do you stand up
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: on that stuff?
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It was brutal. Johnny Rogers could actually he stood up
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: on the Oklahoma turf and it wasn't much better. He
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: was pretty good too, had a couple. Barry Switzer had
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: some teams. Man, oh my goodness, gracious, he had some teams.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: He had some players.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: He loved it.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: He owned doctor Tom he did. He owned him, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: he owned the University of Texas, and he he owned everybody.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: And he lets you know about it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: And they originally paid the most before and they did.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: They they definitely paid the highest price. I've said this
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: many many times, but when I covered Eric Dickerson, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: saw every college coach in America that season, every college coach.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: And I'll never forget the end of the championship game
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: at Baylor Stadium and Seally had just won and Dickerson
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: had just scored like seven touchdowns and Barry was and
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: it was cold that night, and Barry was decked out
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in a fur coat, full length, full length fur coat,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: sitting in the press box. I went down on the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: field after the game to talk to Dickerson and the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: coaches because I was covering Ceily. And he walks up
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to Dickerson right after the game and goes Eric. The
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: only way Billy Sibbs doesn't win two Heisman trophies is
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: if you come to Oklahoma next year.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That is a good line. That and three Cadillacs of
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: get you to Oklahoma. Smu outspit him. He didn't see
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that coming.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Neither did Texas.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Neither did Texas A and M. They lost the car
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: out of the deal. I did. I love those days, man, Yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: when you think that you could get a kid for
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  Speaker 1: a transam and now it takes five million dollars at
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: a trans am back then probably cost fifteen thousand maybe
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe probably not that much, probably not So times
• 41:21
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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back, rusty persons, brought to us by Intech
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: on Mondays. Uh, you want to do the all time
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Rangers lineup? I saved this for you. I think we've
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: done this before. You can probably get most of them.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: You want to start at You want to start at pitcher?
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Just what? There's no I beg your pardon. There's a
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: there's a starting pitcher. There's a relief pitcher. Well, Nolan
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Ryan he's at Yeah. Uh, this is Fox Sports, by
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: the way, so it's just no John Wetland.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: I can see that. Yeah, catcher's pudge yep first base.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Ah boy, this is kind of tough. It's I'm gonna
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: go Paul Merrow.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's according there list Paul Merrill.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: So I could have gone with Will Clark, could have
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: gone with Mark to sheriff, but it didn't play long enough. Right,
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: So second base I put I don't know where they
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: put him, but I put Michael Young second base. They
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: put probably put Kinsler.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: They put Kinsler at second, they put Michael Young at
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: short stop.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, well that's I understand.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: That's kind of cheating a little.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: I would not do that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't either. I would put Michael Young at second.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I put a right a short short Yeah. He played
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: three years, but he was dominant, yes for three years.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Okay. So the outfield there are they really by opposition?
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Uh, pretty pretty much, although you could you could sub
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: him in.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: Uh, I would Josh Hamilton center.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got him in center.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna put and I guess this is gonna be
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: probably not on there, but I'm gonna put Rusty Greer.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's not he's not on there.
• 46:46
  Speaker 14: Wangan Zalez is in left for for the purposes, okay,
• 46:53
  Speaker 14: Sierra's and and right yeah, and they put a d H.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: D H yeah, yeah, not not somebody. You got to
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: go back to the start of the franchise, man Frank
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Hondo Howard they put yeah as d H. Who else
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: would you put at d H. Who came to mind.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Nelson Cruz. But he played right field too often.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I think he played two innings too often, Yes, what
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: one inning too often?
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: He had a great career after he left the Rangers.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: He had a great career with the Rangers.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I mean he was fantastic.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: That was a huge in the playoffs, he was unbelievable.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: They would never made the World Series without him against
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Detroit No and so yeah, you know, other d hs
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: did pop up, and like they had. You can put
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: so many different guys on there. Yeah, it's kind of
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: hard to remember who was purely a DAH. I keep
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: thinking about like Willie Horton, had a Horton, you know
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: what I mean. There's so many other guys you could
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: think of that were really good for like very.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Brief that's the problem, right yeah, because.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: I mean Fergy Jenkins could have been your starting pitcher, right.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, autely. Absolutely, In fact, I thought of Fergie Jenkins.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: You know, you can't overlook.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Al Oliver was an incredible hitter.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Al Oliver was phenomenal.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but it's only for a brief time
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: because Brad Corbett likes a trade guy so often.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And who's the second basement to win the batting title?
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: That that one? Yeah, Julio Franco fantastic who was great manager?
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Oh well, there's only there's only one who's won a
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: World Series, that's true. I'm gonna go with Bochi, even
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: though I bet that's not him.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It's not which surprised me.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: We're gonna go back in the nineties, which.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Is Bobby Valentine.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: No, no, not Bobby was after Bobby. He's got his
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: jerseys retired.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I will tell you that Ron Washington was the manager,
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: and I just no, no, no, no, no, I don't
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: see that Ron.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Washington cost the Rangers of the World Series. I believe
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: that by not putting Indie Chobbs into substitute from c
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Indie shab Is look him up.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: He was Oh no, no, Look, he still could have
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: won the World Series if we wouldn't have had Johnny Oates.
• 49:40
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I think Johnny Oates would be my manager. Actually, he
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: took him to three out of four h playoff years
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: when they had never been to the playoffs.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Before back, and you look at that lineup did put together. Yeah,
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: there was almost all three hundred hitters.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You could go back to them lined ups Rusty in
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the in the seventies and the eighties, before the nineties,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and you're going, holy crud, how could they not win
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: with these players?
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: And the truth is, my son sent me this little
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: thing about that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: They had Charlie Huff and Gaylord Perry on the same staff.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Well, Paul Merrow and one Gonzalez and Pudge and they
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: were all this Macklamore was leading off and all these
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: guys in Rusty Greer with part They had all these
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: guys three hundred How win? They ran into the Yankees? Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: they ran into the most dominant Yankees three times.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I mean that was the most dominant the Yankees have
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: been in my lifetime. Yeah, and you know they ran
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: into him every year. Otherwise that team could have won
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: a World Series.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: They were good.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: They were really good offensively especially.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: All Right, so right now we're talking off the air.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: This Rangers team's thirty five and thirty six. They're a
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: five hundred team. I think that's about what they are.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: They're about a five hundred team. So it's just about right.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: The good news is it's a five hundred division. Yeah,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm still thinking if you can, if
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: you can win eighty five games, you may win this division.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I've seen it, and you've seen it. May's alms. If
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: you can go back and you look at like two
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: thousand and ten, twenty eleven, there was a one period
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: where the Rangers would get they'd had like a ten
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: game win streak, and one of these teams, whether it
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: be Seattle or Oakland or Texas or Houston, one of
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: those teams is going to get on a run like that.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: There's only two teams in my mind that are capable
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: of doing that, and that's Seattle in Houston. Those are
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: the only two teams I think. But look at let's
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: go just the last ten games. Let's look at the
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: records in the last ten games. Okay, Seattle's four and six,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Oakland's five and five, Texas is five and five, Houston
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: is five and five. Angels are six and four at
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: their best record, and they're fourteen under five hundred. I mean,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: this is this is a five hundred division.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Well you know what I mean. You say that, but
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: like the Cubs may be the streakiest of all teams.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: They've never had two ten win streaks. And there are
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: two games or actually there're one game over five.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, And so what I'm.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: Saying is that I've seen any team can get hot
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: for a period of ten.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Well, the Rangers top streak is five. Right, in my mind,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna win ten in a row, you have
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: to have pitching and hitting going at the same time
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: to win ten in a row. Right, You can't just
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: have pitching giving up two runs a game and still
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: expect to win ten because his team had been good
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: enough offensively to do that, right, by the.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Way, you know, going back to your all the time team. Yeah,
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that it's real early to say this,
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: but right now, Jacob Latz is one heck of a reliever.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: He's been good. I mean, he's been really good.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: He's an All Star in my opinion.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Oh he should be. Yeah. If they only have one representative,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: it should be it should be him.
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: If they have too, it should be him.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: And Dura and Duran.
• 53:38
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: I saw that the ballot came out first voting.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: He's second. He's second, Yeah, which surprised me.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: But he has the best numbers.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: He has the best numbers. That's why second.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: So I think Josh Young's he's capable, but there's some
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: really good third base.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna be you know, he's not gonna
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: be mirrors.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way. That guy's unbelievable. But Duran's
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: got a chance because I think Duran is the best
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: second baseman in the American League right now.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: He's been really good, Yeah, really good.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: And those are the only three guys, yeah, belonging to the discussion.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just keep waiting on Evin Carter Man. I
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: just keep waiting on Evin Carter And I don't understand it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: He's got so many tools, he's so gifted, and they
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: don't win the World Series without him, And I just
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: don't know what's happened. Well, he's I don't know what
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: it has to be middle It cannot be physical, No.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: I'm with you. I mean, if you look what Josh
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Young has done though, from a two strike standpoint, he's
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: been phenomenal this year.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's been good. Josh Young's been very good. I
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: got no complaints with And he's a really good defender too,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: really good, right, I got no complaints with him.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: They may have lucked out on this catcher too. They
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: may have yeah, I mean Jenson when he went down,
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: they may have has picked up a really good one.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy, he sure a guy out last night.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, guys out this weekend.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I've seen a Reger catcher do that' Sin's pudge exactly.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're joking.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: So said, I'm not joking. I'm not joking. I have
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: said for twenty years. They still haven't replaced Punch, and
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think they ever will, because you cannot replace
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: I like it. Eli.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: He's been good.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: He's been a good player, and by same token, he's
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: been hitting too. So I mean he's dude, he's good
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: for at least a home run every couple. You know.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Well they got they got six home games in a row.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe they went for him. Well, that'd be good.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately not playing he's from Missouri anymore. That's well, because
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: they had the Royals in the car.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I know, I know the Twins aren't great. San Diego
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is pretty good, but and the National league's killing the
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: American League.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: But the is the Rangers have a much better record
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