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Bonus Episode: Hyatt & Anne Moore Question and Response · I Don't Know You

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SPEAKER_00: We have a few more minutes,
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SPEAKER_00: and I wanted to,
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SPEAKER_00: and there's no pressure to ask questions,
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but I wanted to open up the floor to any questions that you
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guys might have of
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SPEAKER_00: Hyatt or Ann,
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SPEAKER_00: just on life or the house or paintings or technique.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll try to, I'll promise to be brief.
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SPEAKER_02: Your question may be, how long does this thing go?
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SPEAKER_00: So no pressure at all, but we have some time to ask some questions.
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SPEAKER_00: And if there aren't any questions,
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then I'll close us out and we can hang out for a little bit
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longer and then go our
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SPEAKER_00: separate ways.
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SPEAKER_00: Pretty good.
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SPEAKER_02: The late great planet Earth is now out of print and it suffered some,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: it was sort of out of date too.
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SPEAKER_02: But it was effective to me.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not really a question, but tell us about marriage.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I get married on four days' notice.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: And so far, so good.
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SPEAKER_02: It's been 60 years.
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SPEAKER_02: We've been married 60 years.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the best thing I ever did.
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except for accepting of the Lord which of course is his own
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category but other than
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that getting married and getting married to the right person
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was my best choice but
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I wasn't working with the Lord it happens through circumstances
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it's a whole other
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story everything's in the book every story's in the book so
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that's what I tell
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people now just read the book that people don't read it anyway
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a job offer came up
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it was across the country I wanted to take it and I had to
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decide right now
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and I thought I could even maybe get my driver's license back
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and so I was ready to
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go and I was going to be a technical illustrator really a win
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it didn't turn out
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that way but that was I thought and make a lot of money too but
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I had to decide
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right now and Ann and I were lovers but we hadn't been talking
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about it so you know
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we're just good we're best friends we did everything together
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but now I was leaving
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SPEAKER_01: do I take it with me or do I not
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SPEAKER_01: and decided to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: And we decided to get married that week.
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SPEAKER_01: We got married and the next day we moved to Georgia.
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SPEAKER_01: Sixty years ago, so far so good.
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SPEAKER_01: Five children, great life.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not been all great for her, but it's been all great for me.
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SPEAKER_00: Anyone else?
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SPEAKER_00: In this room, sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: In this room,
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can you identify one piece of art that means something special
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to you and share
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SPEAKER_00: about it?
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SPEAKER_00: There's a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: Anne, I guess.
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SPEAKER_01: Anne.
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SPEAKER_01: They're all fine.
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SPEAKER_01: They just showed my breath.
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SPEAKER_01: They show my interest that is very diverse.
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SPEAKER_01: I gave up a long time ago on trying to be the artist of such and such.
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SPEAKER_01: I just try this, I try this, I like the women, I like the figure.
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SPEAKER_01: I often do when I do a figure,
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SPEAKER_01: it's often a woman,
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SPEAKER_01: it's often a dancer because I like it in motion.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not that I'm a dancer and love ballet, but I like that painting.
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SPEAKER_01: I did it a long time ago.
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SPEAKER_01: I like flowers.
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SPEAKER_02: Why?
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SPEAKER_02: Because flowers are God's color.
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SPEAKER_02: You go out in the world and there's color right in the flowers.
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SPEAKER_01: It's incredible.
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SPEAKER_01: But I do it my way.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not like I'm doing a careful flower.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm doing my own impressionistic.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's that kind of thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I like abstract or abstract connected with realism.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like that one.
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SPEAKER_01: It was an abstract thing to start with and then I put a boat in it.
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SPEAKER_01: That's how I often do it.
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so in this room the ones that I like if you've been in the
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studio there's a big
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wide one of Africans being baptized that's going to a mission
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that's what I do
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sometimes I contribute to missions and I haven't done one in a
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while so one just
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came up it's going to Ethiopia I like it it's half abstract
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very impressionistic I
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like it quite a bit and then there's a worshiper that's on the
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wall that's a
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SPEAKER_01: commission again a figure
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So I don't know that any of these have any more meaning than
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others,
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to tell you the truth.
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SPEAKER_01: They're like my children.
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SPEAKER_01: They say, what's your favorite?
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SPEAKER_01: I say, what's my favorite child?
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I have least favorite parents, but I don't show them.
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SPEAKER_00: Implications there.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the best I can do.
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SPEAKER_00: Did you have a question?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: You've obviously lived a very interesting life,
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SPEAKER_00: and I'm just curious,
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what's the most interesting thing that the Lord has done with
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you or that you've
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SPEAKER_00: learned about God?
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SPEAKER_00: What's the most interesting thing about God?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, one thing is that he's very creative.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, here's a quick story, if I can make it quick.
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We raised money to go to Guatemala,
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and fortunately it was a low standard of living.
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We didn't have to raise very much because we didn't know very
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many people.
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went back there and lived frugally then I was transferred back
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here difficult to
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raise money to live here because you're living here and it's
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expensive so now I'm
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living on that income here I called it the miracle a month plan
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because every month
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we barely make it didn't go into debt but I tell you after a
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while like a long time
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SPEAKER_01: I get tired of it Lord this is too hard I don't want to complain
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SPEAKER_02: I said, Ann, I'm going fasting and praying today.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going to pray about money.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that okay to pray about money?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: When you need it, you pray about it.
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SPEAKER_01: So I said, I'll see you at the end of the day.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm going up the hills.
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SPEAKER_02: I went up the hills.
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SPEAKER_02: It started raining on me.
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SPEAKER_02: I barely got to my subject.
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SPEAKER_02: You're going to pray about one topic.
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SPEAKER_02: You talk about a lot of things first.
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SPEAKER_02: I was barely to my topic and it was raining.
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SPEAKER_02: I had to run back to my car.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not going home.
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SPEAKER_02: Man doesn't expect me.
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SPEAKER_02: What do I do?
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SPEAKER_02: I'll go back to the magazine.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not working there anymore because I quit to go to Wycliffe.
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SPEAKER_02: But I know those guys.
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SPEAKER_02: And one of them said, hey, you ever do books?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can do books.
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SPEAKER_02: Design books.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I think I'm going to do a book.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought maybe he's there Saturday.
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SPEAKER_02: Probably not.
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SPEAKER_02: He wasn't.
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SPEAKER_02: But that's why I went there because I wasn't going to go home.
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SPEAKER_02: The guy was there, advertising manager.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, hi, did you come and bought the job?
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SPEAKER_02: I said, what?
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SPEAKER_02: Didn't Steve call you?
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SPEAKER_02: He said, the publisher.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's going to.
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SPEAKER_02: He said he was going to.
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SPEAKER_02: What happened?
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SPEAKER_02: Why?
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SPEAKER_02: He said, the last art director walked out.
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SPEAKER_02: He got fed up with us because they could never do due dates,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: and he just gave up,
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SPEAKER_01: walked out.
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They got somebody else who's now at Road and Track They got him
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back to do the
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SPEAKER_02: finish of the magazine But they were looking for an art director I said,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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Steve has asked me a couple of times And I've always been
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complimented But I have
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SPEAKER_02: another life now I can't do that He said,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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he was going to ask you if you want to do it part-time That's a
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full-time job I
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SPEAKER_02: mean,
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SPEAKER_02: it's a big,
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SPEAKER_02: big job Part-time,
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SPEAKER_02: I can do that What?
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SPEAKER_02: He said, he, Steve
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SPEAKER_02: said he was going to offer you a full-time salary.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, let's call him.
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SPEAKER_02: So Steve comes down and we're talking and he's saying,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: you could get help,
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SPEAKER_02: we got an assistant for you at due date,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: it could happen.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: And he said, how much would you want?
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SPEAKER_02: I said, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been on it for years.
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SPEAKER_02: and I said, how much are you paying?
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SPEAKER_02: He said, well, I could start with such and such.
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SPEAKER_02: Inside, I'm like, I can't believe this.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's this morning.
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I was out there getting rained out of my spiritual experience
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about money,
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SPEAKER_02: and he's offering me a job for money,
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SPEAKER_02: a part-time job for a full-time salary,
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SPEAKER_02: which is a big salary.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I can't believe this.
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SPEAKER_02: And on the outside, I'm going, well, we could start with that.
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SPEAKER_02: Good negotiator.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I said if it works you know a month later we can you can raise me yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: okay,
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SPEAKER_02: which is what happened Well,
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I said I can't say yes now because I have to check with my boss
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at Wycliffe I mean
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SPEAKER_01: is this okay?
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SPEAKER_01: And I got to check with Ann because we had kids at home.
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I didn't want to be a bad father was always gone did a lot of
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it at the house by
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the way in those days But mainly I want to check with God is
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this a test or
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SPEAKER_02: or is this real?
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SPEAKER_02: You know?
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SPEAKER_02: So I checked with Wycliffe and they said, yeah, that's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: And I talked with Ann, she's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: I go to God, what does he say?
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SPEAKER_02: He says, what have you been asking for?
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SPEAKER_02: I said, well, I was asking for money, but I wasn't asked for a job.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, how'd he get money?
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SPEAKER_02: Usually that's where it comes from.
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: what happened to that day,
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SPEAKER_02: and this is what I'm answering the question,
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is that God became more open-minded and more creative than I
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was giving him credit
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SPEAKER_02: for.
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SPEAKER_02: I had him in my little religious
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SPEAKER_01: You know, this is the way it is and that's the way it isn't.
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SPEAKER_01: God's bigger than all that.
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SPEAKER_01: And let him be that way in your life.
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You share a bunch of stories about going on a walk or every day
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on the way home
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SPEAKER_00: from work you spend an hour or being in a hotel room reading books.
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SPEAKER_00: But I'm just curious about that
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that process for you if it's just like you get to a certain
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point and you decide
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okay this whole week I'm going to go walk with the Lord like
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how do you I guess I'm
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just more curious like practically when you were seeking the
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Lord have you found
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that you have that conversation with him well he says if you
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seek him with your
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SPEAKER_01: whole heart you'll find him but you never know how he's going to show up
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very creative I'm not so sure I'm an expert I've had these
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experiences but I tell
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myself well why aren't I having these experiences every day
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because I get busy with
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you know whatever I'm doing but I think the Lord enjoys if I
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can say it that way
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SPEAKER_01: what we would call normal life
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we want the miracle he says you know the miracles your body for
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example it's all
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working you know yeah I guess so don't think about it just the
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normal stuff I think
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is kind of enough I was thinking about the miracle that was
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reading this about the
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SPEAKER_01: Jesus is healing healing all these people and
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had a whole multitude and they're bringing the people that were
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sick and they were
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maimed and a couple of things maimed that means they got
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crushed their arm didn't
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work anymore and it heals them okay when they're healed where
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are they they're back
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to normal they're back to where the rest of the rest of the
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people were all the
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time and they're not even caring about it because it isn't
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normal but the person
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SPEAKER_02: that doesn't have it is yearning for normal
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SPEAKER_02: Well, then I'm thinking, I think normal is pretty special.
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SPEAKER_02: We just don't remember it.
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SPEAKER_02: But as far as how to find God in a special moment,
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SPEAKER_02: and that's usually when we're thinking about it.
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SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden, we've got some stress.
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SPEAKER_01: That's when we'll think, okay, I got it.
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SPEAKER_01: Then we do it.
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SPEAKER_01: We start zeroing in on them, and we find the answers one way or another.
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SPEAKER_01: But I ask for wisdom all the time, and then why not?
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I want to ask for wisdom and I'm writing a sentence and I think
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I can't I don't
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know what to say on this how to finish this sentence not to
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mention the paragraph
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and I'll ask for it and then all of a sudden there it is just
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comes same without
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painting you think it's easy no it's challenging in fact
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creativity I've decided is
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nothing but problem solving a person who's very creative is a
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person who's also
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SPEAKER_02: inventing the problem but you're finding yourself at a loss
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SPEAKER_02: to get the next step.
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SPEAKER_02: And wisdom is promised to us.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's one way of finding,
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SPEAKER_02: because I find that when I ask him and he says go ahead,
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SPEAKER_02: I find it comes.
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SPEAKER_02: So I guess that's how it is.
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Because when he says seek God and you find it,
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he never says how to seek God.
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SPEAKER_02: It's more of an attitude.
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SPEAKER_02: Enough.
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SPEAKER_00: Got time for a couple more questions if anybody else has one.
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SPEAKER_00: Cool.
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SPEAKER_02: Well thank you Hyatt.
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SPEAKER_02: Next they'll be asking what's for breakfast.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you saying we're having a sleepover?
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SPEAKER_00: They're thinking of that.
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Well thank you for taking the time to allow us into your home
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and inviting us into
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SPEAKER_00: a place where you do life and also where you work.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sharing yourself with us and your stories and all that good stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just very grateful.
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SPEAKER_02: You should ask Adam one question.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know what it is.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, I was going to say, do you have one?
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SPEAKER_00: Let me think about it for a second.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, anybody can.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Anybody ask Adam one question.
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SPEAKER_02: That's all you get.
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What do you think about pursuing creative endeavors when you
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don't have time,
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SPEAKER_03: when you bogged down with other things inside there's no time to,
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but you have something on your heart that you wish you had more
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time to be creative
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SPEAKER_03: with?
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SPEAKER_03: That's a
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I give myself permission to be for creative blocks of time
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unless everything else
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SPEAKER_03: is kind of taken care of.
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SPEAKER_03: That looks like shaving.
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SPEAKER_03: Anyway, so I do try to set things out on a calendar.
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Like,
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OK,
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I can't do it today,
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but if I can put it on a calendar,
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I'm going to do these days.
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SPEAKER_03: giving myself permission for people who want to,
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SPEAKER_03: a lot of times I tell,
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encourage somebody to take class or something where they're
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forced to do what they
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SPEAKER_03: want to do and they make a commitment to it.
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SPEAKER_03: Often that doesn't work if you're, you know, a mom or things like that.
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SPEAKER_03: So I think it's, part of it is a personality thing.
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SPEAKER_03: Part of it is a couple.
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giving each other permission I was impressed one time with a
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couple who were going
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overseas into missions and they had determined that each one of
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them would have a
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hobby and they would have permission to spend the time they
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needed to develop it or
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if there was some money or something like that I thought that
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was a really nice
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thing so it wasn't you know they worked together and they
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thought about it early
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SPEAKER_03: too I thought that was neat
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SPEAKER_03: but I struggle with that all the time.
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I try to get a block of art ready for a show and it's hard to
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give myself permission to do it.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm not a good person to ask.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, you better tell about our forays away.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
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SPEAKER_03: So one thing that does work for us at this time in our life,
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SPEAKER_03: we could not have done this earlier,
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SPEAKER_03: is that
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About twice a year we go away someplace for at least two weeks
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where we just have,
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SPEAKER_03: it's really for me,
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SPEAKER_03: like have a block of uninterrupted art making time.
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SPEAKER_03: It's someplace we can drive to because I take a press,
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SPEAKER_03: we take all of our,
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SPEAKER_03: you know,
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SPEAKER_03: supplies,
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SPEAKER_03: how it takes easels and our paints and set up and absolutely love it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but a lot of times you can't do that if you
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SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, I gave you no, I forgot you were up there.
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SPEAKER_03: I gave you no eye contact.
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SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm curious, Anne, how do you like
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I want to say this like nicely but it's not going to come out
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nicely how do you
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like manage someone like Hyatt who has just such like rampant
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creativity like maybe
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SPEAKER_00: manage is not even the right word like how do you
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how do you kind of like focus that energy and maybe you don't
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I'm just curious like
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yeah I think yeah how do you kind of work through the because
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he has so many
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SPEAKER_00: different vast interests of projects that he's working on and
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SPEAKER_00: Are you coming alongside and collaborating with him in that?
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Or is it a sounding board where you're just listening to what
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he's talking about?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm so curious about both of your guys' processes as artists.
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SPEAKER_02: You have to speak into that little fuzzy thing.
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SPEAKER_00: I have it now, but I'll give it back.
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Okay I have to go back to what was the question I didn't manage
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this wild man Well,
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you know Seth helped me recently discover that one of my
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strengths is adaptability
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I took the Clifton strengths and I found out that adaptability
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was my main Strength
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SPEAKER_03: and I realized looking back that that has helped us I can change
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my plans so there that's a big part of it I've always felt that
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my role was to
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support Hyatt and having art of my own it takes a little bit
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it's a little bit
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harder for me to put that up at an equal level I don't I don't
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say our art is equal
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SPEAKER_03: but to give it equal value in my life I guess um
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and I am running around in a lot of different directions so
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keeping things in order
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so he can work is a big part of my life which I'm happy that I
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am a servant I love
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that and he has given me an interesting life for sure and I'm
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blessed in so many
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SPEAKER_03: ways I mean especially with our kids and grandkids and
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SPEAKER_03: all of those things.
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SPEAKER_03: So art is one area for me, but it's not my whole life.
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SPEAKER_01: Let me just add that it's easier being a man.
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SPEAKER_01: You women know what I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_03: You better fit into this shaving brush.
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SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate it as I came over here to set everything up.
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SPEAKER_00: Ann had texted me on Saturday like, hey, how can I help?
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SPEAKER_00: What can I kind of prepare and get ready?
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And I think we're kindred spirits and that we're both kind of
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we appreciate like
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the hosting and setting everything up and allowing for space
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for people to have
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SPEAKER_00: this kind of so I
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even setting stuff up I could tell that it was like challenging
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for you to just
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like be here and enjoy and so thank you for taking that
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sacrifice tonight awesome
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well thank you guys for joining yeah really appreciate all of
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you guys coming out
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tonight and spending the time to hang out and enjoy each
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other's company and hear
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SPEAKER_00: some of this guy's story and yeah if there's
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if you want to hear more about it he has some books over there
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and yeah you guys
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SPEAKER_00: can go home with some of his art tonight so you know by the way you'll be
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interested I'm writing a book right now it's a book of snippets
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it's the name of it
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is snippets how to get anything done and their little one-page
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meditation that
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meditation but you know pieces of wit and advice when's that
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going to be done
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SPEAKER_01: Pretty soon.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm working.
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SPEAKER_01: I do a little bit every day.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just whatever comes to my mind.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not exhaustive.
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SPEAKER_01: But in the end, it'll be 31 ways or something.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's always in our mind.
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SPEAKER_01: That's where the clutter is and the opposition is.
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SPEAKER_01: So those are the things I'm writing about.
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SPEAKER_01: It's kind of fun.
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SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, thank you, Hyatt and Ann, for having us.
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SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.