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Thursday 4pm hour 05/28/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: WKBN. IDO 407 in the afternoon, 72 degrees on a
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  Speaker 1: picture-perfect Thursday afternoon. Ron Verblit, you're taking your calls till 5.
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  Speaker 1: Legal show 5 to 6 tonight and Money Talks with
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  Speaker 1: John Arnold 6 to 7 tonight on News Radio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 3: Ron, you're the voice of Youngstown Warren.
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  Speaker 1: Sharon in Newcastle, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're more than just the news. You're talking. We're
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  Speaker 3: listening here on 570 WKBN. I caught... yesterday a little
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  Speaker 3: bit when you and Dave Thomas were talking. And did
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  Speaker 3: I hear him say that you were at the Capitol
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  Speaker 3: yesterday in front of the Capitol?
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  Speaker 2: The Capitol?
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  Speaker 1: No, no. You did not hear that. You know what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, right? You're taking a cheap shot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, anywho. So I'm a little torn on the data
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  Speaker 3: center thing. I don't want to get to that. But
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  Speaker 3: I was listening in the first hour here. And I
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  Speaker 3: heard the concerns a lot. A lot of people are
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  Speaker 3: worried about their own personal security. Number one, if you're
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  Speaker 3: worried about your security, you should have all three of
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  Speaker 3: your credit, you know, agency locked. You know, like Equifax, TransUnion,
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  Speaker 3: all those. You should have a credit freeze on those.
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  Speaker 3: So number one, so nobody can, you know, steal your identity,
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  Speaker 3: open up a credit card and mortgage all those things.
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  Speaker 3: The cameras that you're talking about everywhere, you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: two flock cameras. Right when you leave your station there,
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  Speaker 3: between when you get on 680, there's two of them
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  Speaker 3: right there. watching everything you do, if you don't know
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  Speaker 3: about flock cameras. And then everybody talking about everybody watching
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  Speaker 3: their stuff. The terms of agreement that you have on
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  Speaker 3: your iPhone, nobody reads that. You scroll through the 20
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  Speaker 3: pages and you hit accept. The thing is, you don't
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  Speaker 3: have a choice to live in a normal society to
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  Speaker 3: give up a lot of your quote-unquote rights, or you
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  Speaker 3: just can't function in today's day and age. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what are you to do? it's tough. You go through
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  Speaker 3: page 18 of the iPhone terms of use, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they know what you want before you know what you
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  Speaker 3: want because they're so good at marketing and advertising. Target
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  Speaker 3: knows you're pregnant before you do. There was one I
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  Speaker 3: heard a long time ago, depending on how you shake
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  Speaker 3: your cursor, they could sell that data for Parkinson's medication
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  Speaker 3: to you and it's crazy things that you wouldn't even
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  Speaker 3: think of. So, that's the whole security thing. You hit
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  Speaker 3: the point, I'm not going to touch base on it,
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  Speaker 3: but digital currencies that's the best thing that can happen
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  Speaker 3: to us in one way not the other there's more
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  Speaker 3: crime that committed nowadays with the dollar than anything else
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  Speaker 3: so that's all another story I won't get into a
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  Speaker 3: right now but the data center thing I'm a little
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  Speaker 3: torn on because I hear your point of view and
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  Speaker 3: I disagree with some of them also so if you
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  Speaker 3: hear me out if if I could play the role
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  Speaker 3: love the big tech CEO you play the role the
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  Speaker 3: governor I call you and say, hi, Governor Ron. I'd
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  Speaker 3: like to build a data center there, but here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to pay any sales tax or property tax.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then you're not going to be building it here. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And then I call every other state in the United
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  Speaker 3: States who is giving the exact same thing. Because I
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  Speaker 3: looked after you and Dave Thomas were talking, and this
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  Speaker 3: is a common thing that was going on in Ohio
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  Speaker 3: to give the sales tax, you know, forget that, the
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  Speaker 3: property tax, forget that. So if you don't build it
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  Speaker 3: in this state, you build it in another. And I
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  Speaker 3: understand the concern with where the energy is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now pause for a second. Then my attitude is,
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  Speaker 1: then go build it in another. Listen, Ohio... is a
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  Speaker 1: prime spot. If you want to build it in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: I'll say we've got the weather, we've got transmission lines,
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  Speaker 1: we've got two natural gas power plants. Lordstown is a
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  Speaker 1: sweet spot. And the reality is, if you want to say,
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  Speaker 1: unless we get all these tax abatements, we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to build here, then my attitude is, okay, then go
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  Speaker 1: build somewhere else.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so here's my, and I'm not disagreeing with you,
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  Speaker 3: but I just want to have a little pushback from it,
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  Speaker 3: because I heard Dave Thomas say before, If they build
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  Speaker 3: it just across the state line into Pennsylvania, okay, where
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  Speaker 3: you're also the voice of, then we're not going to
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  Speaker 3: get anything from it. Now, you do get some economic,
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  Speaker 3: you know, increase from the construction, all those things. What
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  Speaker 3: you've talked a lot about before is the network effect.
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  Speaker 3: But here's my concern. Is this something that we look
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  Speaker 3: back on, be it, I don't know, 10 years, 20 years,
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  Speaker 3: and we say, I cannot believe we did not let
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  Speaker 3: this data center be built here? The one in Lordstown,
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  Speaker 3: the footprint of it, it's huge. But in the grand
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  Speaker 3: scheme of data centers, it's actually kind of small. The
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  Speaker 3: one that they're wanting to build in Utah, it's 40,000 acres,
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  Speaker 3: 62 square miles. So we're on the same grid in
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  Speaker 3: this area. So, yes, the power is right there. But
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  Speaker 3: like Dave Thomas said, too, if you build it anywhere else,
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  Speaker 3: we're on the same grid. It's not like our energy
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  Speaker 3: prices are going to go up. The whole grid of
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  Speaker 3: energy prices are.
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  Speaker 2: Going to go up.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to find a way to get the energy
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  Speaker 3: one way or the other. You know, these data centers,
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  Speaker 3: remember when Elon Musk, when everybody was, you know, pissed
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  Speaker 3: at him and they were firebombing the dealerships? If everybody
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  Speaker 3: sees this society where AI just takes over, do you
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  Speaker 3: know what's going to happen to the AI data centers?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what kind of security they're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to have there just to maintain their operations? It's
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  Speaker 3: going to employ probably a lot of people, too. There's
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  Speaker 3: things I can't even foresee or comprehend the downstream effects of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, economic growth or what it might employ. I
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  Speaker 3: just don't want to be sitting here where I live
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  Speaker 3: and say 10 years from now, 20 years from now,
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  Speaker 3: I cannot believe we gave this up because it's not
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  Speaker 3: like every other state is saying, hey, you're going to
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  Speaker 3: pay for this. You're going to pay for that. You're
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  Speaker 3: not coming here. You can look at almost every single state.
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  Speaker 3: They're doing the exact same things. And you brought up
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  Speaker 3: a good point. When you put on an addition, if
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  Speaker 3: you want to build a garage, you've got to pay
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  Speaker 3: the sales tax. But here's the thing. If you're the
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  Speaker 3: CEO of a major tech company, you're not building your
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  Speaker 3: garage right there. You could build your garage anywhere. So
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  Speaker 3: if that's the option, you get to pick if you
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  Speaker 3: want to pay the taxes or not. And at the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, these tech CEOs, they run major
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  Speaker 3: companies who have shares they're obligated to do in the
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  Speaker 3: best interest of their shareholders. So their obligation is to
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  Speaker 3: build out as much as they possibly can for the
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  Speaker 3: lowest amount of money that they possibly can. So they're
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  Speaker 3: doing their job. I can't help it that every other
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  Speaker 3: governor in the whole entire United States of America has
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  Speaker 3: given up and, you know, thrown in the towel for
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  Speaker 3: their citizens and What would actually be better is if
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  Speaker 3: there was a council of governors who got together and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: none of us are doing this. These people need to
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  Speaker 3: build these, and we're going to build them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, I don't buy the basic scenario because there's
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  Speaker 1: things that are necessary. For example, water. This area, as
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  Speaker 1: I say, is a prime area because of the steel mills.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think all these lakes are around here,
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  Speaker 1: West Branch and all these lakes? Because of steel mills.
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  Speaker 1: So we have the water, we have the weather, and
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  Speaker 1: we have the right infrastructure, electronically speaking, as far as
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  Speaker 1: the transmission lines. There's not a lot of locations that
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  Speaker 1: can offer all of that. They simply don't have it.
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  Speaker 1: Or they'll have two of the three, but they won't
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  Speaker 1: have three of the three. So there are areas that
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  Speaker 1: are more prime than other areas. This is a prime area.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why the state of Ohio, that's why I say, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not doing any of this.
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  Speaker 3: And I can understand where your point comes from.
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  Speaker 1: And they would still come here. And we would still
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  Speaker 1: get the benefits. I thought G2 brought up a great
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  Speaker 1: point last night. And I think it's one that needs
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  Speaker 1: to be discussed. I'm not saying you don't discuss what
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  Speaker 1: the effects are as far as water is concerned. I
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  Speaker 1: think the point to be actually addressed is what happens
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  Speaker 1: in 10 years if technology changes as rapidly as we
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  Speaker 1: see it changing and these facilities become obsolete or become
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  Speaker 1: way smaller?
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're going to. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can see it here at this radio station.
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  Speaker 1: If you go back into this room back here where
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  Speaker 1: all of our stations and this data comes in here
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  Speaker 1: from San Antonio and places, it is getting smaller and smaller,
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  Speaker 1: and the speeds are getting faster. It's amazing when you
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  Speaker 1: go back in the technology room here and you look
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  Speaker 1: at it, all the stuff that's no longer needed and
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  Speaker 1: all the racks that are no longer needed. Well, what
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  Speaker 1: happens to these large facilities when, let's say— 10 years
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  Speaker 1: or less, it changes dramatically. Like G2 says, what's on
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  Speaker 1: the hooks to take these places down? Or if you
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  Speaker 1: can't repurpose them, who's going to pay for that? So
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  Speaker 1: that's clearly understood.
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  Speaker 3: All right. It's a big building with a roof over
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  Speaker 3: it with a lot of... servers on the inside of
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  Speaker 3: it so if they all leave do you think online
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  Speaker 3: shipping is going to go down or up so i
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  Speaker 3: don't know you could turn them into a distribution center
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  Speaker 3: in amazon so i don't i don't really care but
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  Speaker 3: what you you talk about your your radio station well
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  Speaker 3: with somebody 10 years gonna 10 years ago gonna say
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  Speaker 3: hey guys we shouldn't even put this in because 10
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  Speaker 3: years from now it might be smaller we're not going
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  Speaker 3: to run the radio for the next 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, he's merely saying there should be some
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  Speaker 1: planning from a community or from a state to say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what is the long-term plan if you vacate the facility?
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  Speaker 1: I understand communities saying to people that want to put
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  Speaker 1: up these solar farms, okay, fine. But if you go
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  Speaker 1: bankrupt or you're done, how do we get rid of
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  Speaker 1: all of this stuff? Who's responsible for it? I've never understood...
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  Speaker 1: why it became the taxpayers' responsibility to clean up messes
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  Speaker 1: of companies that close or declare bankruptcy, and the taxpayers
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  Speaker 1: stuck with ripping the building down or cleaning up the
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  Speaker 1: toxic mess that they left behind. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: discussion is, we don't want to go down that road.
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  Speaker 1: We want to make sure if you put up a
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  Speaker 1: solar farm and it's no longer needed or it ages out,
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  Speaker 1: who's responsible for ripping all this stuff out, and who's
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  Speaker 1: responsible with AI? Well, that's been going on for decades.
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  Speaker 3: Major corporations have capitalistic gains and socialized losses. I don't
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  Speaker 3: see that changing.
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  Speaker 1: But they declare bankruptcy in many cases and walk away
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  Speaker 1: from it. And then the taxpayers are stuck with it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this. The footprint that G2 is talking about,
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  Speaker 3: I personally, myself, I can't see in 10 years worrying
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  Speaker 3: about not having potential economic growth in an area. Because
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  Speaker 3: 10 years from now, the buildings might be empty. If
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  Speaker 3: we were worrying about that here in the greater Youngstown area,
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  Speaker 3: we got that going on right now. You tell a
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  Speaker 3: data center, well, you could build here, but you got
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  Speaker 3: to pay all the taxes. And then they start building.
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  Speaker 3: And then it turns into the chill can factory where
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  Speaker 3: it sits there for how many years now?
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  Speaker 2: 10 years? I don't even know.
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  Speaker 3: Because they just never want to because they play the game.
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  Speaker 3: And then they build it somewhere else. And then 10
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  Speaker 3: years from now, I'm having this conversation with you. and
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  Speaker 3: look at the opportunity we missed because we're so short-sighted.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, you listen long enough to know I'm pro
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  Speaker 1: data centers. I'm against these communities that are saying no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no out of fear. And I'm saying you're screwing yourself
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to your property taxes. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that you can't have guardrails on it, but I'm saying
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  Speaker 1: you should embrace that technology. It will be a benefit
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  Speaker 1: for your property taxes, and ultimately it's relatively clean data.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a dirty industry, and everybody's going
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  Speaker 1: to use it. So I'm not opposed to it.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Frank was talking about charging robot police forces. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what the heck he was talking about. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even going to go there. But in the future,
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  Speaker 3: and not 100 years from now or 50 years from now,
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  Speaker 3: but in the short future, they are going to be
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  Speaker 3: building data centers in space. Because it's a lot easier
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  Speaker 3: to maintain because you need the water for cooling. You
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  Speaker 3: don't need to cool it in space because it's already
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  Speaker 3: cold there. You can actually use solar panels there because
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  Speaker 3: there's something on like eight times more efficient.
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  Speaker 1: How are you going to get all that stuff on
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  Speaker 1: the moon? Where are you going to build it on
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  Speaker 1: the moon?
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  Speaker 3: You don't need to put it in the moon. You
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  Speaker 3: just put it in low Earth orbit. I mean, look
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  Speaker 3: at Starship right now. Do you know how many Starlink
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  Speaker 3: satellites are flying above us right now? Have you ever
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  Speaker 3: used Starlink? It's faster than the Internet. You have now.
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  Speaker 3: You could use it everywhere. If you just look at
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  Speaker 3: even what SpaceX is doing and what their IP is
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  Speaker 3: coming out, it's a whole other thing, possibly $ 2 trillion valuation.
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  Speaker 3: But if you look at what they're doing, look at Starship.
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  Speaker 3: They are just progressively getting better and better and better.
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  Speaker 3: And they're going to move the data centers to space
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  Speaker 3: because they're going to be more efficient. They're going to
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  Speaker 3: be cheaper. And imagine a– you remember all the leftist
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  Speaker 3: Democrat people, all these protests. Where are these people coming from?
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  Speaker 3: How are they so organized? They were paid to go
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  Speaker 3: do these things. You don't think the Chinese or any
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  Speaker 3: malicious force is going to get online, get on X,
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  Speaker 3: spread propaganda that the AI data centers need to go
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  Speaker 3: down and they're not going to firebomb them just like
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  Speaker 3: I said about Elon Musk's Tesla dealerships? If you're a
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  Speaker 3: tech CEO, you'd much rather have your data center in
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  Speaker 3: space floating around where it's cheaper to operate. You don't
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  Speaker 3: need security for it, physical security. So those things are
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  Speaker 3: going to move there, too. But I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: that's going to be two years from now, five years
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  Speaker 3: from now. But it's going to come. And I can't
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  Speaker 3: worry about what's going to happen on the inside of
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  Speaker 3: the building.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how much stuff is going to be floating up
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  Speaker 1: in space? We have all these satellites that are up there.
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  Speaker 1: And now we're going to put all these data centers
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  Speaker 1: up there. And I hear about all this space junk
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  Speaker 1: that is up there now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, is it endless?
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  Speaker 3: I never worried about Iran hitting me with a nuclear bomb.
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  Speaker 3: And I definitely don't worry about space debris currently. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, 100 years from now, might that.
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  Speaker 1: Be a problem? Well, see, that's the difference between you
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  Speaker 1: and me. I never walk outside without having a motorcycle
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  Speaker 1: helmet on at all times.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what? That might be that the Lord
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  Speaker 3: just called you that day. That was just your time.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure once they hit the atmosphere, they
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  Speaker 3: burn up anyway. So I think you'd still be okay
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  Speaker 3: unless you get shot and you get to volunteer to
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  Speaker 3: go to Mars. And that minuscule opportunity of chance, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when you see the picture of all the satellites around Earth,
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  Speaker 3: they look enormous. But when you put it in proportion,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the chances of you hitting one and those starlings,
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  Speaker 3: they have little propulsions on them too. So they can
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  Speaker 3: actually move around. But this isn't, I fear we are
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  Speaker 3: being our own enemies in a way, because we always
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  Speaker 3: want to argue, if it didn't come here, we'd be saying,
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe we missed this economic opportunity. And if
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  Speaker 3: it comes here, I can't believe it's moving here. Let's
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  Speaker 3: try to embrace it. I get your points. I get
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  Speaker 3: everybody else's. But I'd hate to miss out on any
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  Speaker 3: form of economic prosperity.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with that. I'm in agreement with you. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine if you let the people of our area decide
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  Speaker 3: if it should come here or not, and they picked
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  Speaker 3: the folks that were behind the PJ Maxx distribution center there,
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  Speaker 3: and they didn't want to have the facility there because
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  Speaker 3: it disrupted their sunset in the mobile home park.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 1: All right, Alex. Thanks. Appreciate it. News Radio 570 WKBN
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  Speaker 1: and Ron Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning, 422 in
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon. Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 1: And Ron Furb, you're on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Speak up. I can barely hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Is this better?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. See, a lot of times I have to instruct
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  Speaker 1: the callers. One part of your phone you put on
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  Speaker 1: your ear and the other part you speak into, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe you had it reversed. So I'm glad I can
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  Speaker 1: help you out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if it's any consolation, on the first
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  Speaker 2: hour that I put the headphones on, it was over
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  Speaker 2: my face, and then I was listening to all your
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  Speaker 2: riveting calls.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And I had to take a drink, so I moved
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  Speaker 2: it out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. I'm just blessed that you're able to call a
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  Speaker 1: program after all of your painting is done. Thank God.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not all done. I'm still doing it. But
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I do have kind of like an update on life
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: in AI.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I remember when you were successful in making a ton
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: of money and then came AI.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I said, I said myself, I said, I'm
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: going to sit here and keep learning and mastering AI
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: until someone pays me, like I used to make money,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: to use it to solve problems. And I'm happy to
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: say that the first person I signed the first contract,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: it's not huge, but it's because of all of the work. Oh,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: and as I was doing the work, I was displaying
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: all the projects that, you know, like so people could
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: see them. And now today I just had another interview
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: with a big company that I don't know if it'll go,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: but they were impressed. And that was the reason that
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: they called me was because they said, you know, we
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: want someone who's leaning into AI and can help us,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: you know, make transitions. And I'm like, well, that's why
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I've been doing it. And so it's starting already. So
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I may not be painting. I've always said I got
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: to get these projects done before my vacation may end
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: at any moment. And they don't know it. But I'm
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: getting the feeling now that at least for a while
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: that that's going to happen. And not everybody is doing that.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: There's still people holding on to the past. I can
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: tell you, man, as a software developer, from the things
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: that I'm doing, using AI, that job exists no longer.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And if it does, it's an unborrowed time. It's like
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the guy making the last wagon wheel. Unless you're in
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Amish country. They still use them. But And so I'm
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: already seeing how you navigate through it. I do have
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: some thoughts on the data center stuff. I've been listening
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: to you talk, and I can shift over to that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: But I know better than to try to commandeer your
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: schedule and agenda.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by your shifting to that. Let me do
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: my commercials, and then we'll come back, and you can
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: make the transition, all right?
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 18:17
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• 18:44
  Speaker 1: All right, so you wanted to shift into AI. Now,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you've got a technical background. I just found it interesting
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: as I was reflecting on your words prior to my
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: headline break. So basically, you're saying what you did and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: did for many years and made a lot of money
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: is going to be taken over by AI and already
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: has been, correct? Correct.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, the actual act of developing software, like writing it, yes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: But not so far, not telling it what to develop
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: and to guide it when it does the wrong thing.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: That's where my experience comes in still. I say in
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: five years I won't care what I have to say
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: because I'm teaching it all kinds of things, but it's
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: not just me. Anybody else who has that experience and
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: is using it. And so it's like teaching the foreigners
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: your job before they ship it overseas, you know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So what you've done for years and what you made
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: a good living at. is technology will take over and
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you see it happening.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, here's where something... Like, people always said, oh,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you know, the computer will do this, and we'll just
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: all have... We won't have anything to do, and we'll
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: just have all this free time. But what happened? The
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: opposite happened, right? The opposite that happened was the computer
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: did things, but then people wanted more and more and more.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm saying, like, I think I called
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you a while back when I was talking about painting. It's...
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I think... that this AI is allowing problems that normally
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: were too expensive to solve to be solved for a
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: period of time. While the AI is trying to learn,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: that capability is almost free. It's very cheap. And so
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: why I said earlier, you know, one thing, in order
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: to learn AI, you have to find a problem and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: solve it with it. And that's what I started a
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: couple months ago. And I started with the data associated
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: with Mahoning and Troubled Counties. Like, where's all the infrastructure?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Where's it all located? Where are the houses located? Do
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we reference all the houses with the same scheme so
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that we can teach the young kids one day, just
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: make a little program to say, here, go here and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: fix this, because this is where that water is. Or,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like, no things like that. There was a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: lot of vested knowledge in people's brains that, that retired
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and some of them pass it on to younger people
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: and some have not. I can tell you by looking
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: at some of the data here that a lot is not.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, we do things a lot manually that we
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: don't even realize. Like, you know, I need to go
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to a house and do something, fix something. Where's the house?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Who services the water? Who services the cable?
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Who's this?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You know, so just not to go too far into that,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: but right now we have an opportunity to learn about
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: our situation using AI that we could reduce the the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: amount of people needed to run this entire space through
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: attrition and actually bring costs down that way, local costs,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: state costs, if you utilize it. That's where the good
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: part is.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Or medically, medically there would be a good part.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, don't even get me started there. I'm sitting here
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: talking to you because of the medicine.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Right, but I mean, think of what can happen five
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: years from now. People have problems that you and I
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: might have as we grow older, my adult children will
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: not face. And there's comfort in knowing that. I mean,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: there's comfort in if that technology gives them a longer,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: healthier life.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: And, you know, pretend you have the ugly side where
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: there's that tick thing going on.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: You didn't identify. In fact, I did a look up
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: on that. And it's alpha-gal syndrome. And it's because... Humans
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: do not have a gene that is this type of gene,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: galactose A13, and ticks do, and they bite the beef also.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: And so what I'm still trying to, can I not
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: like beef by eating the beef itself? That's what I'm
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out. But I did find out that
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: if you get that disease, and you don't like beef,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: it may go away after a period of time if
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you're no longer bitten by the same type of tick.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And it may not.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Right. Those sorts of alterations are seriously done through AI
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: because it's basically work with DNA. There's no way our
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: brains can process DNA without the help of a computer.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And so there's all these medicine things that result on
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: DNA studies will be enhanced and potentially could be abused.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, that's, like you say, there's good
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and there's evil. Going with the data center issue, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I'm with you on it's going to happen, so we
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: should benefit from it. But when you talk about, like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you were saying, all these things, you know, oh, we're
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: not going to tax them. But guess what? They do.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: You know, they let them not tax. And even though
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you're saying it doesn't mean that's the way they're going
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to do it, I have no faith in the corruption
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: of our government that they're going to really look out
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: for our best interests. That worries me. You know, people
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: make money and forget, and then people just, you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the drive-by voters and media don't notice until it's too late.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So I think placement is important of those, you know.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think they belong inside, at least the current ones,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: the current technology that is loud and uses lots of water.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think they belong right in cities. People make
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: investments on their properties and whatnot. You know, you may
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: fix up your whole house and everything.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Well, no, I would agree with that. I mean, it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: got to go in a— that' s why you have zoning. I mean,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: you would have these big facilities. That's why a lot
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of times they want them— they' re so huge. they want them
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: out in the country. Here's the, let me bounce this
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: off of you. When we talk about these data centers,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I hate to see some of our most precious farmland
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: disappear because so many acres are needed for data centers, but,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: but that is happening, but it's also, that's happened in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: the past for neighborhood developments, right? A lot of farms,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for example, if you go to Florida right now, a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: lot of the orange groves are not around anymore. And,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: There's fewer and fewer of them all the time because
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the land is so valuable to develop and put housing
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: developments in. So we're losing orange farmers in Florida. Well,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: just like here, we're starting to see a lot of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: family farms where perhaps the family doesn't want to continue
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: in the farming or they offer so much for the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: lands that you could not have to do the farm
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and live a comfortable life. And they buy 100 acres
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: or more for a data center. And so it eats up.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: At some point, you're going to have to say to yourself, well,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Where do we grow our food?
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I've got a comeback here that is important to what
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: you're saying.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm ready for it.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: We won't come to think of it. I won't need
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: our food because the tick will bite me and I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: won't want to eat beef anymore. Now, before you give
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: me your comeback... And I'm serious with you. I'm telling
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you right now, and I don't care what the jokes are.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You can do every art bell joke you want. I'm
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: telling you right now, there's no way that this tick
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that make you so that you no longer can eat
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: meat was not created in a laboratory. I'm trying to
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think if I read, I read a book. I recommended
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: at the time Lyme disease was created in a lab
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: in On an island by New York, by Lyme, New York,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the area is Lyme, New York, or the community. That's
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: why they call it Lyme disease. And they were modifying
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: these ticks, and they didn't think it would be a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: problem getting off the islands. And then they realized, well,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the ticks went off with birds and deer would swim.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And they went to the main shore. And that's why
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: when we started to see Lyme disease, it was in
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that area of the community of Lyme. That's why it's
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: called Lyme disease. Lyme disease. Because it was just a coincidence,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, by this military bio lab, if you will,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that was on this island. And likewise with Rocky Mountain
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: spotted fever. This is how evil some of the things
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: are in our world and the problems we have as
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: a result of people that do this kind of crap.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: So you're telling me that Bill Gates and all these
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people who don't want you to eat meat and cows
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: are bad and all this kind of crap, all these wackos...
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: that you don't think that they funded the modification of ticks,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: just like they did for Lyme disease and Rocky mountain
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: spotted fever. They modified them to give them this ability
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to bite you. And then you can, you no longer
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: have a desire to eat meat. I'm telling you, I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: think that's how evil some of these people in this
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: society are. It's hard for a lot of people to imagine.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like you're a mad scientist, but it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: not hard for me to imagine. I believe it. And, uh,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going to check with General Johnson Jameson on it,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and I believe it 100%. All right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: So may I say that I'm not only in agreement, Ron,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: I'm noticing a bigger trend even that this is just
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: a part of.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: You remember, okay, so the baby boom after the war, right?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: There were a lot of people, a lot of workers,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and people invested in those workers, and they invested in
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the food that kept them alive, and the society that
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: kept them alive, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Suddenly... They realized, oh, my God, those people are all dying.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: They're not creating new people. We've been too, you know,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the system is breaking. So what they tried to do was, oh,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: let's go to Africa. We're still making a lot of people.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Let's bring them all here. And then we'll, you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: in about five, ten years, we'll have a bunch of workers.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: And they went away with that, too, right? And so
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: they called that the replacement theory, right?
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, are you following me?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that didn't work. So now let's replace them all
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: with A.I., Oh, but in order to replace them all,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: we have to replace their houses and their lives and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: everything with data centers. Okay? So then once that happens
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and all the data centers are in place, you know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: everybody thinks, oh, you know they talk about a uh
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: we'll give you a substance what are they calling it
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: like everybody gets.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: A basic income yeah.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Social yeah sure they will just like social security was
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: always going to be there and everything too right they're
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: just telling you that to shut you up because they
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: won't need you anymore and they won't care And they
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: may not, you know, this isn't like, I don't know
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: if they'll starve everybody, but they can sure make it
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: so it's really hard to reproduce and there's only the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: amount of people that are needed.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Well, don't you think, now pause for a second, because
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: don't you think to a degree it's there now? And
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: let me lay this on you.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they make it so you don't want to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: reproduce as much. I think it's sad. Just hear me
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: out for a second. I think it's sad. There is,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: in all my life, the best part of your life,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and I'll see if you agree, the best part of
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: your life is when you meet the love of your life. Correct?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: As I said, there is no higher compliment than a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: man can receive than when he asks a girl he
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: loves to marry her and she says yes. That is
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the highest compliment ever. you'll ever get in your life.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Would you agree? Okay. And, and secondly, there is, there
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: is nothing more rewarding in your life, nothing than, than
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: when you have children. I mean, it is, it is
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: such a, just an incredible joy and frustration and, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: so many emotions about it. That's only, only a parent
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: can really understand, you know, you're, like I say, frustrations
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and joy. And as you look at your children and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: they become smarter than you and better at you at
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: doing stuff, then you were a great parent because you've
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: created a great human being. We are losing that. You know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I wish I had more children, but, you know, I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: blessed for the ones that I've had. But the reality
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: is they're making it so difficult on people that are
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: younger to Because, oh, everybody's got to work and daycare
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: is so damn expensive. I mean, it's just gotten so expensive.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: People are choosing, oh, I'm only going to have one
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: kid because that's all we can afford or two kids.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: That's all we can afford or none because we can't
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: afford any. And I suspect even if you go back
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: in my day or my dad's day, you know, my
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: father always said it doesn't matter how many kids he has.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: We'll just divvy the portions up smaller that you will
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: always find a way to make it happen. But I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: understand today when my kids were young, we had grandparents
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: that we didn't have to worry about daycare. We had
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: grandparents and. And so my wife worked a different shift
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: than I worked, and so we didn't have to worry
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: so much about that. You may do, but it's so difficult,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: so expensive to have children today. And that's sad. Then
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: we get.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: The printing money, Ron.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Then we get, right?
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, we're beating ourselves over the head
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: every day, and we let it happen. You know, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: the people we elect to office, from what I can see,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: they may have good intentions, but when they get in there,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: they just realize I can become rich by not doing
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: my good intentions. Correct.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: It becomes more about them than it is about being
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: a public service. Dave Thomas is a public servant. He's rare.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Let me put it that way. So if I ask you,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: there's positives and negatives with AI centers. We should embrace
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: them in our area in general. We should want that
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: technology to be located here. Agree?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: No, because until you actually define those zoning things and
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: what it is, I don't think they should come in.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: We're just letting them in and dealing with it later.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So that part I'm not into. I don't think it
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they're going to build one next
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to your house. You don't have 100 acres next to
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: your house.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: You said they shouldn't tax everybody because, you know, right?
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: But they did. So should they bring it? Oh, but
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: they didn't do what we thought was good. They just
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: did what they thought was good for them. So what
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: makes you think that they're going to do anything that's
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: good for you if they're not doing those basic things?
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Well, see, this is where you bring up a great point.
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  Speaker 1: And you probably don't even know it. But there was,
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  Speaker 1: and there might still be a movement where The federal government,
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  Speaker 1: when data centers overruled any of your local regulations or
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  Speaker 1: your zoning, that you really didn't have a say-so on
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  Speaker 1: it at all. All right, I'm done with you. I've
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  Speaker 1: got to break.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks. Back in a bit, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 1: And Ron Verbal Eagle Show at 5, courtesy of Beatrice Kopp.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Ron?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Boss lady.
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  Speaker 5: I got a lot to say, so I probably won't
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  Speaker 5: make it.
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  Speaker 3: I'll probably have to call back tomorrow. All right.
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  Speaker 5: All this talk about AI data centers, and I think
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  Speaker 5: you're talking to Dave Thomas. I didn't catch all of
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  Speaker 5: that or G2, but you've got Ohio, right? They're pursuing
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  Speaker 5: AI data center investments.
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  Speaker 3: That's fine. But my broader.
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  Speaker 5: Discussion tomorrow is Ohio wants to lead, then Ohio should lead.
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  Speaker 5: The government should practice what it preaches. AI boosts productivity
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  Speaker 5: as we know it does. The government should be utilizing
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  Speaker 5: it in the same way. Go first. We're funding it.
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  Speaker 5: We should expect the same cut in efficiencies in government today,
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  Speaker 5: right now, hop, hop, everybody at the county level, at
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  Speaker 5: the state level, they promise, take a stand, drive this
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  Speaker 5: so that we're seeing these efficiencies and our tax dollars
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  Speaker 5: are not getting wasted because when the job cuts come,
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  Speaker 5: it'd be nice to have some of that money back,
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't it? And that's the biggest, these guys need to
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: stop talking about all the investments they want taxpayers to make.
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  Speaker 5: They want Ohioans to make it through our income tax,
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  Speaker 5: through all the different taxes.
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  Speaker 3: So start leading.
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  Speaker 5: Because I can go through a list of 100 ways
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  Speaker 5: that they can reduce costs by 20% in the state
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  Speaker 5: with AI efficiencies. And that's what, why are we always
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  Speaker 5: talking about, all we want to talk about is how
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  Speaker 5: we're going to build data centers and everybody stop whining
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  Speaker 5: this and that. Go first. AI is amazing. A lot
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  Speaker 5: of roles can be condensed. You want to save taxpayer dollars?
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  Speaker 3: Start.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 5: Now give me an AI, Captain.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't hear an AI, Captain.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, I will say it should be used in
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  Speaker 1: governments to hunt out fraud and productivity. I'm in total
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  Speaker 1: agreement with that.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely. Jobs and family services, all the paperwork, all the redundancy,
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  Speaker 5: all of those forms and anything like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: there's a thousand ways.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I can eliminate tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Call me and we'll talk more. All right. Back with
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  Speaker 1: the legal show.
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  Speaker 7: From ABC News, I'm Lindsay Davis, anchor of Prime, streaming
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  Speaker 7: weeknights on ABC News Live. Following days of escalations between
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  Speaker 7: the U.S. and Iran, including strikes launched by both sides,
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  Speaker 7: Treasury Secretary Scott Besant confirmed American and Iranian negotiators believe
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  Speaker 7: they have arrived at a draft agreement to formally extend
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  Speaker 7: the ceasefire and gradually open the Strait of Hormuz. President
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  Speaker 7: Trump and Iran's leader would still have to approve. ABC's
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  Speaker 7: Ian Pannell is in Jerusalem and says it's the latest
• 37:34
  Speaker 7: attempt to end the nearly three-month-long conflict.
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  Speaker 8: How many times have we now been saying a ceasefire
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  Speaker 8: is about to be extended or a deal is about
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  Speaker 8: to be announced? In actual fact, the answer is about
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  Speaker 8: four or five times over the last few weeks. And
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  Speaker 8: we're now at that stage again, U.S. officials telling us,
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  Speaker 8: telling Axios, Associated Press and others that they think a
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  Speaker 8: deal is pretty much there or at least an interim agreement.
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  Speaker 1: It just needs a signature. The U.S.
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  Speaker 7: Economy is facing headwinds due to the war with Iran.
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  Speaker 7: New data shows inflation is at a three year high.
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  Speaker 7: In Dallas, witnesses say a fire and explosion at an
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  Speaker 7: apartment complex sounded like a bomb went off. Four people
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  Speaker 7: were transported to the hospital. ABC's Alex Stone has the latest.
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  Speaker 4: Lindsay, it started as a gas leak call, a large
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  Speaker 4: explosion and fire. While the fire is now contained, not
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  Speaker 4: much is left of the apartment building. It burned completely down.
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  Speaker 4: Firefighters say they're searching for any victims in and around
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  Speaker 4: the burned building right now.
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  Speaker 1: There's unknown how many possible fatalities we may have.
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  Speaker 4: Four victims were transported to hospitals with unknown injuries. Construction
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  Speaker 4: work had been underway outside of the building before the
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  Speaker 4: gas explosion.
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay?
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  Speaker 7: Efforts are underway to see if anyone else is missing.
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  Speaker 7: The growing Ebola outbreak in Central Africa has prompted the
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  Speaker 7: Trump administration to set up a 50-bed facility in Kenya
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  Speaker 7: for any Americans who face quarantine due to the Ebola outbreak.
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  Speaker 7: Suspected cases in Central Africa now top more than 1,000.
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  Speaker 7: The facility could open tomorrow. Officials did not say if
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  Speaker 7: Americans would be allowed.
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  Speaker 1: To return to the U.S.
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  Speaker 7: In order to receive care if necessary.
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