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Heritage, Tucker & Fuentes -- The Right Imploding | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: A lot of it, fundamental principles of freedom, national self interest,
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  Speaker 1: and individual rights.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Yuran Brook Show.
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  Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome to you run Brook Show on
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  Speaker 1: this Sunday, November two. I hope everybody's having a great weekend,
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  Speaker 1: A great I had a great week. I know. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen you in a while. I have been traveling
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  Speaker 1: around Europe. I am now in Vienna, Vienna, Austria. Yesterday
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  Speaker 1: I did a great event. I just mentioned this.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday. I good a really good event.
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  Speaker 1: In Oslo, probably about two hundred and fifty young people,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five year olds, all.
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  Speaker 2: Members of the youth organization of.
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  Speaker 1: A classical liberal political party in no Way, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was great. I talked about morality of capitalism. There
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  Speaker 1: is video. They did record it, so I'm hoping that
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  Speaker 1: at some point we'll be able to put it up
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  Speaker 1: online and you'll be able to see it. But although
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  Speaker 1: it's my standard, it's the standard raality of capitalism talk.
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  Speaker 2: Not libertarians.
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  Speaker 1: They're called the Progressive Party, but a progressive in no
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  Speaker 1: way is not far left. It's supposedly classical liberal. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was really good. It was a quick
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  Speaker 1: trip in and out of Oslo very very quickly. It
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  Speaker 1: was cold, rainy, and as you can tell, probably from
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  Speaker 1: my voice, I think I'm coming down with something.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been coming down with something.
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  Speaker 1: I've been One of the reasons I haven't done shows,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's just difficult, all right. Anyway, I am in Vienna.
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  Speaker 1: Those of you who are in central Europe, maybe Buddislav
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  Speaker 1: or Vienna or any of the area around here, you
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  Speaker 1: should come tomorrow to my event at the High Institute,
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  Speaker 1: the Austrian Economics Center here in Vienna.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing an event.
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  Speaker 1: What am I doing an event tomorrow at five o'clock?
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  Speaker 1: I think on left and right, why in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's turning their backs to capitalism. Why they're both all
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  Speaker 1: of them turning their back to free market.
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  Speaker 2: So it should be an event. Hopefully you guys can
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  Speaker 2: make it.
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  Speaker 1: Some of you can make it if you're in that
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  Speaker 1: part of the world. All right, let's see. I know
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  Speaker 1: there's an iron Rand meet up here in Vienna, so
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  Speaker 1: I think some of them are coming. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they're listening live, but I think some of them
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  Speaker 1: are coming, and hopefully others will come as well.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk about what's been going on on
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  Speaker 1: the right in the last few days. It's been pretty
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  Speaker 1: dramatic and I think very revealing, really the complete bankruptcy
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  Speaker 1: of many of the institutions and many of the people
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  Speaker 1: on the American right of conservatism. More broadly, I also
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  Speaker 1: say that, how do I put this nicely, I'll also
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  Speaker 1: say I told you so. I hate being right. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: when I'm right about negative things or write about something
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  Speaker 1: that is that is a negative outcome. But I've been
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  Speaker 1: telling you since God since twenty fifteen, since I started
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  Speaker 1: the show, really certainly since Donald Trump started running for
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  Speaker 1: president and the old right kind of came out of
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  Speaker 1: their out of their gravels or out of their tunnels
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  Speaker 1: or out of there, whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 1: and started poking around. I've told you that they would
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  Speaker 1: win in a sense that they would grow in power
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  Speaker 1: because they facial principal opposition. The Conservatives have nothing to
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  Speaker 1: stand by other than their religion and tradition. And well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the tradition of many people in the history
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  Speaker 1: of the United States has been racism, antisemitism. So what tradition,
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  Speaker 1: what tradition are they going to follow? And religion. God,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Christianity invented anti Semitism. Anti Semitism is primarily
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  Speaker 1: a product of Christianity.
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  Speaker 2: So when the alt right came out.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, and it was really all
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  Speaker 1: over the place on Twitter and everything, everybody says, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a small number of people. It's not that big,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that important, it's not that crucial. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: represent the mainstream, it doesn't represent conservatism, it doesn't represent
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  Speaker 1: conservative line. And it came out as anti semitic, they
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  Speaker 1: came out as as racist, they came out as white nationalists.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, let's be very clear, white nationalism
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  Speaker 1: is racism. I got some really amazing comments on the video,
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  Speaker 1: on my video on Nick Foyintis, I mean really some
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  Speaker 1: pretty stunning comments in terms of what people wrote. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's hard, it's hard to it's hard for
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  Speaker 1: me to conceive how.
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  Speaker 2: Bad people's thinking is on these issues.
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  Speaker 1: But the amount of really really bad, I mean just
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  Speaker 1: the comments. I mean, I did it in Nick Foorentis,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, my assumption is that if you listen
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  Speaker 1: to ten minutes of Nick Foentis, you get him you
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  Speaker 1: figure it out, and you can see that he's a
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  Speaker 1: racist and he's an anti semi and now it's true.
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  Speaker 1: He was in his very good behavior with Tucker, so
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  Speaker 1: he only said things like that he admired Stalin, Stalin
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  Speaker 1: Stalin on the show, he says he admires Hitler and
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  Speaker 1: he loves Hitler and he loves Nazis and Attakacross and
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  Speaker 1: he says Stalin, So he's picked the two probably the
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  Speaker 1: most evil political leaders in human history, who killed more
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  Speaker 1: people than anybody in human history. Just it just slaughtered them.
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  Speaker 1: Well mounts the tongue, it's probably up there with them.
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  Speaker 1: And those are the people who admires. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: when I thought, I thought, you know that saying the
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foy intest was a anti semi racist, that would
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  Speaker 1: kind of be obvious. But it's stunning to me kind
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  Speaker 1: of the pushback in the comments, right, calling everyone in
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  Speaker 1: anto semit isn't going to do what you think it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know, because it depends to who people who anto Semites.
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  Speaker 1: I guess they don't get excited about that. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking for one particular comment I thought was really something
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  Speaker 1: else in terms of uh, you know, saying Nick Fantist
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  Speaker 1: is not a racist. You know, white nationalism is not
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  Speaker 1: is not racist?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: And why is Nick for Interest is not a racist?
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  Speaker 1: All he says is he doesn't he doesn't want his
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  Speaker 1: uh he doesn't want his uh grandchildren to be of
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  Speaker 1: mixed race. Uh And and you know.
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  Speaker 2: Some black people agreed with him.
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  Speaker 1: This is to justify Nick for Interest And I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what racism is. And the fact that
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  Speaker 1: blacks are racist too doesn't justify you know, white racist.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. But it's uh, you know he has Here's.
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  Speaker 1: One Joan isn't even trying to hide that he's a
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  Speaker 1: leftist extremist anymore leftist extremists.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's you know, if I criticize Nick for Interest and
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  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, I'm a leftist cree extremist. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: really is stunning the number of comments I got under
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  Speaker 1: the Nick foro Interest video that I put out, and uh, the.
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  Speaker 2: Just the horrible and disgusting it really is.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. Anyway, anyway, I'm not gonna find it now.
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  Speaker 2: That's fine.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need it. So uh. As you know Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foytess because I talked about it on a previous show,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foyantes was not a Corculson and they had a
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  Speaker 1: very respectful and lengthy two hours a discussion. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've criticized that cor Coulson for years now,
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  Speaker 1: in particularly over the last couple of years. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a complete hack. I think he's a he's he's
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  Speaker 1: become a raving anti Semite. He's pro putin, he believes
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  Speaker 1: in in. Uh, I don't know demon that that that
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  Speaker 1: inflict a physical damage on him. The guy's a complete
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  Speaker 1: mystical anti American hack.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he has become.
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  Speaker 1: So he interviews for intance, so just you know, and
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  Speaker 1: he's already interviewed people who think Hitler wasn't that bad
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  Speaker 1: and who think Churchill was wisteron Hitler was really the
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  Speaker 1: bad guy. And you know, he's interviewed a variety of
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  Speaker 1: different people who've expressed just abhorrent points of view, which
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  Speaker 1: he has just rolled with just just he's just nodded
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  Speaker 1: and and he's just asking questions and he's just rolled
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  Speaker 1: with it. He's also interviewed people like Ted Kruz don't
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  Speaker 1: particularly like, but is really good on these issues and
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  Speaker 1: really pushed back on them for the defense of Israel,
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  Speaker 1: for example, and things like that. And it's it's really
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  Speaker 1: stunning to see te Kerkoffson when he's combattive. I he
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  Speaker 1: when he when he really challenges people in an interview
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  Speaker 1: and does a good job as an interview about challenging them,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes stupidly, like when he asked take whose how many
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  Speaker 1: people lived in Iran to show that he was ignorant
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  Speaker 1: of Yuan shouldn't really talk about Ivon. And then he
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  Speaker 1: does interviews with people who just say the most awful,
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  Speaker 1: disgusting things and and somebody wrote in the chat and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's true that he's a nine to eleven
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  Speaker 1: truth and now he's a nine to eleven conspiracy theory
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  Speaker 1: guy as well.
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  Speaker 2: Now him and Dave Harmon.
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  Speaker 1: And when he talks to somebody who, hey, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think somewhat favorably about the Nazis, or somebody like Frantis
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  Speaker 1: who's a rabbit anti semi racist and white nationalist and
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  Speaker 1: h and just gives him softball question after softball question
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  Speaker 1: after softball question, you have to come to the conclusion
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  Speaker 1: that he's somewhat sympathetic views it as really really important
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  Speaker 1: to let these people express their point of view and
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  Speaker 1: get it out there on his platform, which is one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest platforms in the world right.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, you know, I criticized that.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people online criticized it, some old line
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  Speaker 1: conservatives criticized it. And then Kevin Roberts, Kevin Roberts, who
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  Speaker 1: is the CEO of the CEO of the Heritage Foundation
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  Speaker 1: now of the Heritage Foundation, came out with the video
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  Speaker 1: basically defending Tucker.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: He introduces the video by saying, there's being circulation that
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  Speaker 1: there's been speculation that Heritage is distancing itself from Tucker
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  Speaker 1: corson over the past twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 2: This is post interview.
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  Speaker 1: I want to put that to rest right now. Here
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  Speaker 1: are my thoughts. And he has this two and a
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  Speaker 1: half minus a video.
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  Speaker 2: And it's it really is horrific.
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  Speaker 1: Basically says that Heritage will stand by Tucker Colson no
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  Speaker 1: matter what.
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  Speaker 2: The taker. Carson is a.
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  Speaker 1: Friend of the Heritage Foundation, and whatever he does, Heritage
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  Speaker 1: Foundation will stand with him. Ultimately, there is a bigger
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  Speaker 1: enemy out there, and that is.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if you know, do you know what the
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  Speaker 2: bigger enemy out there is? The left?
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  Speaker 1: And that that is what it's important and given that
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  Speaker 1: Tucker is against the left, they will stand with him.
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  Speaker 1: And he goes into a whole thing about how the
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  Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation hates is very against anti Semitism and and
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  Speaker 1: fights against anti Semitism, and on and on and on,
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  Speaker 1: and he even says that he views and Nick for
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  Speaker 1: Intance's views as apporent but he thinks they need to
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  Speaker 1: be a they need to be platformed, they need to
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  Speaker 1: be spoken of. And he talks about this, you know this,
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  Speaker 1: Uh what do you say? He calls it this h
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  Speaker 1: venomous coalition. Uh, that is that is going out, you
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  Speaker 1: know that that is attacking for interestin Tucker calson, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: who are these people exactly? Maybe Jews. It's just a
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  Speaker 1: horrific statement. And he starts out the whole thing by saying, look,
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  Speaker 1: we support Israel and so on, but we should be
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  Speaker 1: we should be willing to to attack and critique Israel
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  Speaker 1: without being anti Semitic. He declares that Christians can critique
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  Speaker 1: the state of Israel without being anti Semitic. Yeah, nobody
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  Speaker 1: says you can't. I mean, Tucker Cousin in this case
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  Speaker 1: was not under fire for criticizing Israel. He was under
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  Speaker 1: fire for platforming an anti semi a Holocaust denier, a
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  Speaker 1: somebody who supports and thinks Hitler is cool and believes
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  Speaker 1: in white Christian nationalism White Christian nationalism. The question isn't
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  Speaker 1: whether one can criticize Israel or not, although Kevin Robinson
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  Speaker 1: could be the out of it. The question is is
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  Speaker 1: it okay to platform and therefore give access to your
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  Speaker 1: audience of a known let's call him what he is,
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  Speaker 1: a Nazi. It wasn't a debate about Israel. And indeed,
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  Speaker 1: Nick Into his criticism of Jews goes far beyond this
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  Speaker 1: support or perceiving this support of Israel. He hates Jews.
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  Speaker 2: And he is John.
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  Speaker 1: Aren't you tired of asking the same question over and
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  Speaker 1: over and over again. I mean, I appreciate the super chat.
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  Speaker 1: Five dollars is five dollars, and I'll answer it, But
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  Speaker 1: this is like, I mean, clearly, this is the third
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  Speaker 1: or fourth time you've asked this question. Is it your
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  Speaker 1: attempt to get me to say the same thing over
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  Speaker 1: and over again and thus discredit me in front of
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  Speaker 1: some audience that you imagine exists out there that if
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  Speaker 1: they just hear my opinion on this issue, they will
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  Speaker 1: walk away from me. Is that what you're trying to do?
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  Speaker 1: It pretty pathetic if you ask me so. Anyway, the
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  Speaker 1: issue is not Israel. It's not Israel for Nick Fointis,
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  Speaker 1: it's not Israel for Tacko Coulson. Yet Kevin Roberts wants
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  Speaker 1: to make it all about Israel. Roberts defends in this
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  Speaker 1: video Callson against quote the slander of bad actors who
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  Speaker 1: serve someone else's agenda. Oops, we have a problem. Why
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  Speaker 1: is that? Why is it doing that? Give me a second? No,
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  Speaker 1: is that working? I don't know why? Why is that
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  Speaker 1: not working? That's work either?
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  Speaker 2: Interesting?
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  Speaker 1: Ah, all right, they fixed it, all right, I think
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  Speaker 1: this will work. We last video there for a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize. I think that works all right. Yes, that's working.
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  Speaker 1: Who are these bad actors? And what is someone else's agenda?
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  Speaker 1: I mean that is code word for Jews serving Israel's agenda?
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  Speaker 1: I mean otherwise, name the actors and who's someone else's agenda?
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  Speaker 2: Again?
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  Speaker 1: The issue here is should somebody who the Heritage Foundation supports,
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  Speaker 1: supposedly even supports financially. Supposedly The Heritage Foundation buys advertising
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  Speaker 1: on the techer Calson Show. Now advertising on my show sponsorship.
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  Speaker 1: My show is pretty cheap on Techo costs in a
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  Speaker 1: cost seventy five thousand dollars per ad, I guess. And
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  Speaker 1: they've done a lot of ads, so they're spending a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money, a lot of donor money on advertising.
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  Speaker 1: That's supporting Tucker Calson and Teker Colson is platforming this,
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  Speaker 1: you know, horrific monstrosity called Nick Frantis. Is this a
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  Speaker 1: good use of heritage money? The fact that he is
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  Speaker 1: supporting Techer Cosson. No matter what, facing a cancel culture,
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  Speaker 1: the whole cancel culture is. It's a package deal. It's
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  Speaker 1: a meaningless concept in terms of actionable right. Some people
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  Speaker 1: should be canceled, some people should not. The complaints about
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  Speaker 1: cancer culture when it came to the left were not
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  Speaker 1: about the principle of that it's okay to not platform
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  Speaker 1: certain people, it's okay not to platform certain people. We
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't platform people who are evil, but that people were
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  Speaker 1: being canceled for innocent things that they said. People were
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  Speaker 1: being canceled for saying the truth, or at least things
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  Speaker 1: that were within the mainstream weren't crazy. Being a white nationalist,
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  Speaker 1: being an anti Semite is really really really really really.
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  Speaker 2: Good reason to cancel somebody. Anti Semites.
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  Speaker 1: And white nationalists and racists more broadly should be canceled.
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  Speaker 1: They should be de platformed, They should not be given
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  Speaker 1: a platform despout they hatred their lives. So now I
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  Speaker 1: want to give you a context for this, So let
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  Speaker 1: me Yeah, I mean, of course, this is his explanation.
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  Speaker 1: American people expect us to be focused on our political
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  Speaker 1: adversary on the left, not attacking our friends on the right.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So Tucker Calson is a friend on
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  Speaker 1: the right, Tucker Calson who has.
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  Speaker 2: Spent months.
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  Speaker 1: Attacking Israel and Jews, not the left, but Israel and Jews.
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  Speaker 1: He's your friend on the right, Tucker Calson, the platforms
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  Speaker 1: is Nick Fourentis and Ian Carroll and all kinds of
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  Speaker 1: other uh, you know, horrible despicable anti Americans.
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  Speaker 2: He's your friend.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Tucker Colson, by the way, who.
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  Speaker 1: Joined the interview with Nick fisc went in a whole
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  Speaker 1: monologue about the worst people in the world are the
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  Speaker 1: zion Christians and attack people like Mike Cocabe and Ted Cruz,
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  Speaker 1: who are part of the right, I think, and generally
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  Speaker 1: evangelical Christians who support Israel, who.
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  Speaker 2: Tend to be in the coalition on the right.
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  Speaker 1: I think he doesn't spend anywhere yeah, as much time
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  Speaker 1: attacking the left, and yet he is your friend on
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  Speaker 1: the right, in the coalition to attack the left. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I want to give you some context. Right, The Heritage Foundation,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has been historically the bastion of conservatism. The
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  Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation is one of the first think tanks that
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  Speaker 1: was founded, and it has been the policy shop for
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  Speaker 1: conservative presidents for.
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  Speaker 2: Decades and decades.
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  Speaker 1: I think the founder of the Heritage Foundation, the people
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  Speaker 1: who founded it, would be I mean, one of them
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  Speaker 1: at least just passed away over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: I got to meet him and spend a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time with him a few years ago. I think would
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  Speaker 1: be horrified by Kevin Roberts and what he said. I
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  Speaker 1: think would be horrified by Tucker Carlson, would be horrified,
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  Speaker 1: certainly horrified Bennik Foyantis. Now they were not from my perspective,
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  Speaker 1: good guys. The Heritage Foundation was very much established on
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  Speaker 1: a foundation of Christianity, on the foundation of religion as
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  Speaker 1: the basis for America. Heritage Foundation was always compromised when
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  Speaker 1: it came to free market, but it employed a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people who were pretty good, pretty good on farm POLSI,
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  Speaker 1: pretty good on economics. There was some free marketers at
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  Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation. He trundition I think lost its way.
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  Speaker 1: Really from the beginning, it stood for nothing because it
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  Speaker 1: stood on the.
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  Speaker 2: Foundation of mysticism.
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  Speaker 1: If you stand on the foundation of mysticism, you're not
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  Speaker 1: going anywhere, and you can defend yourself. Ultimately, you can
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  Speaker 1: defend yourself against the Nippoynticis of the world. Christianity is
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: not a foundation to defend America, to defend reason, to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: defend individual rights. So ultimately it's not that hard to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: be captured by the Tucker cousins of the world. In
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: spite of that, I think the founders would be horrified
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: by Kevin Roberts and what he said. The Heritage Foundation
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: took a real turn when it basically became an institution
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: that became part of America, first, became part of Trump's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: supported Trump unequivocally. It became it was always anti immigration,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: but became even more so became anti capitalism.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: The free marketers who worked at Heritage.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Left, and this bastion of conservatism basically became the bastion
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of trump Ism, bastion of MAGA, and as deteriorated sense.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And of course I think part of that is well
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: now it's now it's so committed to MAGA that it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: willing to tolerate and willing to platform and willing to
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: support people who platform the worst vile, racist, anti semites
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that they are out there. How much Trundation is huge.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Its budget is I think one hundred million dollars a
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: year used to be. I mean, we're talking about an
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: institution that raises It's a nonprofit organization that raises tens
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: of millions of dollars every year. I wonder what fundraising
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is like right now. Because there's been a big backlash
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: against this, as you can imagine from those, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Christian evangelicals who are supporters of Israel, Ted Cruz, Mitch
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: McConnell in the Senate have come out strongly to denounce
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Kevin Roberts. Some employees at Heritage have said they find
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Kevin Roberts's statement horrific. Former employees of Heritage have come
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: out and denounced Kevin roberts statement. I mean, even in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: itsimate communication.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Kevin Roberts is that have leaked.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Kevin Roberts is trying to defend his position and refuses
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to acknowledge the issue, which is the continued partnership of
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Heritage with Tucker calls a Stucco, calls was anti American
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: propaganda from Putin, from Qatara, from Iran, makes fun of
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Christians who are from Israel's right to exist slanders Israel
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: and platforms Nazis and supporters of Nazism, and Heritage Foundation
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: continues the partnership with him and Kevin Roberts just ignores it,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: ignores all of that, pretends it doesn't exist. One wonders,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: what does Tuck I have on Kevin or you know
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: how many people on the Board of Heritage, the new
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: board of Heritage are now, you know, part of that world,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: that world of you know, anti Semitism, that world of
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: anti Americanism. Supposely there's a staff rebellion. I don't know
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: if there is at the Heritage Foundation. People are resigning,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: people are threatening to resign. The rumors there's a board
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: meeting yesterday that by a small margin allowed Roberts to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: maintain his job, keep his job. But it's not clear
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: on the other hand, you know staff at the Heritage
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Fundation or senior people the Heritage Foundation come out and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: said nonsense, there was no board yesterday. There was no
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: board yesterday. Although a lot of people are calling for
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: his dismissal, his aid chief of staff, who actually wrote
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the text that he read on the video, his comments
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and Tucker Carlson and for intance, he is being demoted
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and he's been replaced the chief of staff. So Kevin
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: is blaming him, I guess for the comments that he made.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: The video was still up. He hasn't taken it down.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: But there seems to be a rebellion insight Heritage. There
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: seems to be objections to this. This is really shaking
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: up the conservative movement to the extent that there is
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: a conservative movement. Yeah, the chief of staff was reassigned, reassigned,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and Kevin Roberts came out with an email announcing announcing this.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is that Heritage is subsidizing Tucker Calson.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: And it's not just it's not just this latest of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: interviewing frantis, what about the Carol interview? What about his
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: support for putin Heritage used to have a pro American
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: foreign policy. I guess not anymore. Its relationship with Taker
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Culson is more important, or maybe Heritage is onto something.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Heritage realizes that the right its support is I've moved
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: on from the kind of old line conservatism which supported America,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the funding Fathers, the Constitution, somewhat free markets and things
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: like that. Even those they're willing to give up. Now
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: it's much more in line with supporting Putin or you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: a star Coacosa said the other day, Shariello is not
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that bad supporting Katar over supporting Israel. That's a there's
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a there's a.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, Kata Kata versus Israel. Who should you support?
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Huh. So it's going to be
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: really interesting to see how this shakes up. You know,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation is part of some kind of consodium
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: around anti Semitism. Well, some of the other members of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: that consodium are leaving saying they will not participate together
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: that with Heritage around antisemitism when Heritage supports you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: raving anti Semite in Taco Cassa.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: So this is this is going to be interesting.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Right, the right, without any doubt now is becoming antisemitic
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and racist. It's Charlottesville one. So we go back to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: when when was Charlottesville twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen. Well,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Charlotte are the people at Charlotteville one the Altright is winning.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: They are basically the most energized, most consistent, most principled
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: force on the right. They couch their anti Semitism as
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: being anti Israel. But here's an example. Let me see
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: if I can find this.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: This is a question that jd Vance was asked.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Jd Vance was doing a turning point, a kind of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: a Q and A at the University Mississippi. Right, this
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: is the kind of Q and as that Charlie Coke did. Anyway,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: jd Vance was stepped in to play Charlie Coke for this,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and so he was there of field questions for students
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: for nearly an hour.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: It's just great good for him.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Every vice president should do this, and you can see,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you can see their true character when they do this.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: And a student stepped up and said the following, I'm
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: a Christian man, and I'm just confused why there's this
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: notion that we might owe Israel something, or that they
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: are are greatest ally or that we have to support
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: this multi hundred billion dollar found aid package to Israel
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: multi hundred billion dollar following pages or we'll get to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: that in a minute. I'm just confused why this idea
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: has come around concerning the fact that not only does
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: they religion not agree with ours, but also openly supports
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the prosecution of ours. So Jews openly support the prosecution
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: of Christians. So you can see here how the anti
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Semitism Jews support the openly support the prosecution of Christians,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: which is complete bs is buried under the lead, Well,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: why are we supporting Israel?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Why should we support Israel? What's the point of supporting Israel?
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Which is how they constantly hide their ane to Semitism.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a question fundamentally attacking Jews and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Judaism or whatever right and using Israel as an excuse
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for that. And what does JD. Van's response? He says,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you know, America First doesn't mean abandoning alliances but leverage
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: them for US gains. So just because what America first
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean we shouldn't have allies, you know, he points
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: out that the United States, it is not a patsy
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: of Israels and the Trump has used this leverage over
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Israel to achieve a Gauza sease fire. He uh, you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he thought that it was okay for Christians and Jews
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to collaborate, and.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: He never said anything about the fact that Jews.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Do not promote the prosecute, persecution and prosecution of Christians.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: He never addressed underlying anti Semitism. He let it just stay,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and he is not. He's not confronting it, and he
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: knows he can't confront it because if he does confront it,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: he loses. He loses the Nick Foy Intis crowd, which
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: is now hundreds of thousands, if not millions strong, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: he needs them if he wants to run for president.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: He needs them, all right, fuck?
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I mean otherwise named the actors and who's someone else?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Agen Again, the issue here is should somebody who the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Heritage Foundations supports advertising that's supporting Tucker Carson?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Alright, one second, we're looking to see where the stream is.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: If there is a stream, God, when is it offline?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Sorry, those of you on podcasts, give me just a
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: little bit to see if I can re engage the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: stream on YouTube. One second, let's see h h h H.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody. Uh, I am back.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I Uh god, I probably spoke for ten minutes without
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: even realizing that it was frozen and uh we had dropped.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Uh and no, no.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I've got an eck cancel that. I apologize for that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: The the I don't know, hotel WiFi. We didn't pray
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: enough for the hotel WiFi gods to help us here.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure where it ended.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: But let me, let me, let me make a wider point.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is the reality is that. And
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I and by the way, I have captured all your
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: super chats, so we will we can and will cover
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: all the super chats. I uh, let me just make
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: sure that I.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: So we will capture all the sup We have captured
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: all the super chats, so we think should be fine.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: All right, So I apologize for the job. But you know,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: it's the hotel. Whatever the hotel did, this is what
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: it is. It ended when the Heritage Fundation sponsored Tucker.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: The Heritage FUNDI sponsor to Tuca, as I said, for
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: for in spite of the fact that Tucker platforms for interest,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: but more than that, inspite of the fact that Tucker
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: is supportive of Putin you know, it gives us Katari
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: talking points, is anti American in so many ways, has
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: abandoned any respect for for for freedom, free markets, anything
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Colton has become a joke, a crazy, nutty joke.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: He's expressed anti Semitic, explicit anti semitic views himself. In
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: addition to and in addition to what to platform unique pointers,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Tucker Cosson has become an embarrassment, and yet Heritage Foundation
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: sponsors his show through advertising it. Of course, has now
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: declared explicitly that he is one of them, that he
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: is their friend, that he will always be part of
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the coalition as they fight the left.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing that's you know.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Really really important and important to note. The right does
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: not have the tools to stand up just like the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: left does not have the tools to stand up to
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: their extreme manifestations, if you will. They do not have
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the tools to stand up to the racist and anti Semites.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: They do not have the tools to.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Stand up to the white nationalists or the white or
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the national the Christian Conservatives. Indeed, one of the great,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: one of the great, one of the sad things that's
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: going to come out of the national conservative movement is
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that the National Conservative movement was the large extent founded
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: by an Israeli, a Jew, a conservative Jew, a Yamica
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: wearing conservative Jew.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: But then Razoni who have debated.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And that the National Conservative movement is going to be
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: a breeding ground for ultimately Christian Conservatives and ultimately anti
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: semit conservatives. That is, a national conservative movement founded by
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: an Israeli Jew is going to be a place where
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: they where Ultimately the worst enemies of Israel and the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: worst enemies of Jews are going to be prevalent now
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of the right, not the left obviously, but still, I mean,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: if the world takes seriously the national conservative agenda, you
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: will get these nationalists and nationalist governments that ultimately will
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: turn against the Jews because the Jews don't belong in
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: those nations.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: According to them.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: They have no tool to stand up against them. Once
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: they've accepted Once your own Marazzoni has accepted collectivism, has
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: accepted tribalism, well he doesn't get to choose which collective wins,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: which tribe wins, and what the attitude of that tribe
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: is towards his own tribe, Jewish tribe. Tribalism. Once tribalism accepted.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: You've accepted irrationality. Once tribalism has been accepted, you've accepted
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the negation of freedom. And the conservatives Heritage Foundation, certainly
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: because of because of the Heritage Foundation, you know, has
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: joined the tribe around Mega and around Trump. It has
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: nothing original, nothing interesting, nothing of value to really say.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: So what is the defense of regular.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Conservatives, of of of of the current conservative movement against
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Nick Foyants? And just to be clear, you know, I've
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: now watched a bunch of Nick Cooins videos. I find
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: it really weird that any of you find him entertaining
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: or worthwhile or willing to watch any of his stuff.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: He is a slimy monster. He you know, he could,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: he could. He has the kind of view that made
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Hitler Hitler. He's a Nazi, and yet people tolerate him,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: people pursue him. Now, It's true some people are pushing
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: back against Nick foy inters and te Carcasson, but they
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: have no leg to stand up. What is the argument
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: against Oh, they'll call him an anti semi, but they
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: can't defend individualism. They can't talk about what this country
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: is really about, what this country actually stands for. I
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: mean here we have somebody here, you know, nine people,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: million people of Israel are the most important thing to
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: America and Americanism in Yuron's mind. When have I ever
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: said anything that resembles that I've done whole shows on
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: what America is and Americanism without mentioning Israel once. Israel's
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: not important when it comes to discussing the future of America.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: What's important is America. It's founding principles they're founding for others.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: What's important is the Declaration of Independence. They give amen
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: a created equal endowed with inalienable rights. The only reason
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: I talk a lot about Israel is because it's in
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the news. I mean, Trump talks about Israel all the time.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Is that because Israel matters to him more than anything else. Right,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I don't need this guy's lying, all right? So there
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: is no there's no basis for them to defend against
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: m These white nationalists, these fascists, they have no basis
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: to do it because they don't understand the foundation on
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: which this country is built. They cannot talk about individual rights,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: they cannot talk about individualism. They certainly do not talk
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: about capitalism. I mean, there was an interesting exchange the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: other Day by J D. E Van's Jad Evans was
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: filling in for Charlie Cook at a Turning Point USA.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: He gets asked the turning Point USA event, he gets
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: asked the question, here's the question. I'm a Christian man.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Notice how this is always the case. This is the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: case with war Beef who is.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Making comments on the chat.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: They argue that it's all about Israel, but really what
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: drives it as hatred of Jews, anti Amotism. So here's
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: what this young person says. I'm a Christian, Matt, and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just confused why there's the notion that we might
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: owe Israel something, or that there are greatest ally or
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that we have to support this multi hundred billion dollar
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: foreign a package to Israel. We'll talk about that in
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: a minute. I'm just confused why this idea has come around,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: considering the fact that not only does their religion not
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: agree with ours, but also openly supports the prosecution of ours,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: openly supports the prosecution of Christians. Where is that? Where
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: is this openly supporting that? Is there any evidence of that?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, clearly antisemitic, clearly driven by hatred of the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Jews and a claim about their religion. Does Stucker Callson
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: confront sorry, jd Vance confront that. No, he goes into
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: a whole spiel about we're not beholding to Israel and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: America first, doesn't mean we don't have alliances and Israel.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Sometimes he's an ally and sometimes not, and that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Trump really twisted Nintoniello's arm in order to get this
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: peace deal.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: So Israel does what we tell it to do, and.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: You know, and then he argued that there are theological
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: difference between Christian and Jews, but they don't preclude collaboration
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: here and there on matters of common concern. Nothing about
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Jews persecuting Christians, which is just a fantasy. And you know,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to piss off people. I mean, he
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to piss off Nick Foynter's supporters. That's what's
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: driving him, the need to keep them part of the
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: coalition so that he can get the nomination next time
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and they support him. I mean jd Vance can't talk
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: against them. I mean, he can't even defend his wife. Indeed,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I think in the same Q and A or maybe
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: it was in another place, I'm not sure. He says
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: that he's hoping that his wife who's Hindu. I think
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: she's Hindu, converts to Christianity because Nick Foentis on a
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: regular basis on the show, goes after JD. Vance and
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: says that Jadvans is married to a brown woman and
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that's not acceptable and he can never be allowed to
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: be president of the United States because his wife is
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: not white and she's not a Christian.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: So JD.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Vance against wants their peace. Who does he want at peace?
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: He wants to peace. The worst element that Nick Foentis
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and his gropers by telling them, oh, no, no, no,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: she's going to become a Christian. Don't worry, she's going
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: to convert. I mean, basically, Maga relies now on Goiper's
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and more and more the Conservative Party, more and more
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party is going to rely on Nick Foyantes
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: and is going to be accommodating of Nick Foyenttis's views.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Remember the German Conservatives really pushed back against Hitler for
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a while, and they accepted Hitler. They thought he was
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: a joke, they thought he was repulsive, they thought he
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: was awful.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: They really opposed him.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: But it was a marriage of comedy convenience, and they
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: supported him. Out of convenience. You remember why, because they
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: had a common enemy. Oh what was the common enemy
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: with conservatives? And then and and Hitler was the common
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: hem Oh.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Yes, the left. And of course once they let him in,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: he had the energy behind him.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: He had young people behind him, he had millions of
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: followers behind him, he had people who'd marunch in the
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: streets for him, and soon enough he controlled it. So
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the real fear here is basically
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the complete takeover of the Republican Party by the Nick
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: for Inticis of the world. That the Conservatives and the
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Republican Party are going to become a party of Christian Conservatives,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: white Christian Conservatives, racists and anti Semites and wrapped around
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: religion and wrapped around a flag. Of course, Nick Fointis
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: makes his case constantly about it's all about America. First,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: he attacks Jews for having dual alliances, because he claims
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: that Jews all have dual citizenship. Very few Jews have
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: actual dual citizenship, and lots of people have dual citizenships.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Brits have dual citizenship.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Europeans have many more dual citizenship than Jews do than Israelis,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: and yet it's only the Israelis, the Jews dual citizenship
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that there's a problem. So I don't know. I don't
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: know what comes of this country. I don't know what
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: comes of the Republican Party. We have now the Democratic
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Party uh running an anti Semitic uh is Islamist socialist
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: mayor for New York. And we have the Republican Party
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: probably running a a uh you know, anti Semitic Christian
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  Speaker 1: Christian nationalist for for for.
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  Speaker 2: Presidents next time in JD. Evans.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: And we have the Heritage Foundation, the bastion of old
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: line conservatism, basically or not basically just endorsing Tucker Carlson,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: who then platforms and and in his silence and his
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: lack of opposition, endorses the worst kind of Nazi supporter
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: in Nick Foents. By the way, this one's kind of funny,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: but Nick Foyents has recently, uh you know, come out
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: in favor of Gavin Newsom. In he said, if there
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was just to give you a sense of this, if
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: there was an election between Gavin Newsom and JD. Vance,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: he and the Gropers who would support Gavin Newsom because
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is white, his wife is white, his kids
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: are white, and JD. Van says, a brown wife and
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: brown kids, and that's not acceptable. That can't be in
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the White House. So they're willing to support a leftist
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: just in name of their name, of their.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Racism.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I think Richard Hanani is right. He says the total
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: grop pification of the GOP is nearing its completion. You
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: saw the emails, the text messages of the young Republicans
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: spouting Nick foyentis like views when talking among themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Why is this happening?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I mean again, because I think old line Republican ideas
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: kind of went bankrupt with Bush.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: They went nowhere.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: They were unprinciple, they were completely pragmatic. Trump opened up
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: this opportunity for the goypers, for racists by declaring so
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: called America first and then kind of winking and you know,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: and the good people on both sides, kind of attitude
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: towards the worst elements among his supporters and being embraced
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: by MAGA, which turned into a conspiracy theory, crazy nutty.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: You know. I won't call it an ideology because it's
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: not really an ideology. Trump is legitimized they alt right.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: He's legitimized the race is right. He's legitimized all of them.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: If somebody like Trump with his character can be supported
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: by conservatives, think about that. I mean, conservatives supporting a philandering,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: you know, just a horrible, lying human being, somebody who's
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: you know, by conservatives stand has been divorced or three times,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: had many affairs, talked about grabbing women by there and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: all of that, and conservatives are just yeah, okay, Christian
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Conservatives are just like, yeah, fine, we're electing this guy.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: They've opened up the door to anybody.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: They've opened up the door, you know, Trump by the
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Conservatives now willing to tolerate anything as long as they
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: beat the left. They supported Trump because he could beat
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the left. And Nick foytis nick foyintis is anti left,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: at least they think he is. I'm not sure about this.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Gevin knew some stuff. But Trump has opened up the door.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: The supporters of Trump had opened up the door. His
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: wink win, everything is okay, don't worry about the racism.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Has opened up the door.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Charlottesville opened up the door to the worst elements on
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: the right dominating the Republican Party.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: And that's what you're seeing.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: You're seeing the slow domination of the Republican Party.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: They control it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Their hatred of immigrants is now manifest on the streets
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: with ice.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: The hatred of Jews.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: Is manifest every week on Tucker Carlson Show. Remember Charlotteville
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: was the as they marched.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: It was Jews.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Jews will not replace us, Jews will not replace us.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: And yes, Trump did say something out of half, you know,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: something about the neo Nazis, the horrible.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: New Nazis out there. But he also said the good
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: people on both sides, which if if.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: You're not if you're still confused about I did a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: whole show on it, so find my show on Charlotteville
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: and watch it where I analyze line by line the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: entire speech by Trump, including his condemnation and including his
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: the nice people. You know, this is this is what
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: has led open up the door to these types. And
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: again there's no defense, there's nothing conservatives can say to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: defend themselves against this. On the right, they've always been
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a little racist. Now they're full on racists on the right.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: They've never really completely trusted the Jews. Now the full
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: on anti semitic on the right. They've never embraced capitalism.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Now they're full on statists.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: On the right.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: They've always endorsed a little bit of Christianity in politics.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Now they're full on Christian Christian nationalists.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: As I Ran said, when you compromise with evil, only
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: evil gains, only evil wins. And creating a coalition in
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: bringing racist anti Semites into the tent, only they can win,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: only they can win.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: And they're winning.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: They are winning, There's no question about that. There's the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: voices I see standing up against you know, against this, uh,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you know old Lincoln's servatives that a losing losing the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: big battle. You know, Taker Colson has many many more
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: followers than they Inde Nick Foindess probably has more followers
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: than I don't know, Michael Levin or David Hassani or
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: some of these others. David Assani writes Vance's answers yesterday
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: were despicable. I'm not sure why Jews appraising him. He
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: let a questionnaire, questionnaires vile smear against American Jews go
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: completely unchallenged, only assuring him that Trump didn't let Israel
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: pull pull the US into a world war, as if
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: that's what it wanted. Imagine some dopey kid going off
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: on how the Pope secretly pays off all US politicians
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: to create open border policies and illegal invasions, and then
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the Vice President tells him not to worry. The President
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: has dashed the Pope's plan. Vanceys Tucker's boy, and everyone
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: understands it, which is why so many of these people
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: won't criticize Tucker. Yep, it's it's pretty bleak. I want
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: to say one thing about this kid's accusation. And you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: see them for intus, and you see it in Tucker
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Colson that the US gives is so much money. So
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: let's look at the facts, right, Let's look at the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: actual facts. The US provides as were worth about three
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: point eight billion dollars in military aid each year, zero
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: economic aid. It used to be thirty years ago that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: the US gave Israel economic aid. It gives it no
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: economic aid. Three point eight billion in military aid. Around
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: three point three of that billion three point eight is
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: in grants that have to the only way they can
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: use them is to purchase US US weapons, So all
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: that money comes right back to American manufacturers of weapons systems.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And another five hundred million is in corporation on missile
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: defense programs. You know the various shields that Israel has,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: which of course the United States benefits enormously from as
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: it is trying to develop its own missile defense program.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: It's sharing all the information that Israel has on its
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: experiences with missile defense systems. Now, this is a significant amount.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Three pointy billion dollars is nothing to sneeze at. It's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: just under five percent of total US aid budget military
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: plus economic, and itso point zero six percent of the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: total federal budget. It's not hundreds of billions of dollars,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: which is what the kid claimed and JD. Vans never corrected.
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  Speaker 2: The US.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Just to give your context, the US gives the United
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Nations fourteen to sixteen billion dollars a year. The United Nations,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: which is horrifically anti American, gets fourteen to sixteen billion.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Israel gets zo point eight. Now, again, the three point
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: three billion is all spent on purchasing American equipment. American equipment.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: Then Israel uses like F thirty fives. Israel not only
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: users F thirty fives, but it actually makes changes to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: their thirty fives. It adjusts the F thirty five to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: its own needs, and then it uses their thirty fives.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: It puts them into combat.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: According to I think it's Lockheed Martin that builds the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: f thirty fives or north of north of I can't
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: remember which one. According to them, the benefit that they
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: get from the fact that Israel uses this plain on
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: a regular basis, it is worth tens of billions of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: dollars of research and development that they do not have
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: to do because Israel is actually doing it in practice
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: and giving them the data the information.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: On top of.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: That, Israel provides the United States with massive intelligence intelligence
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: about terrorist organizations, about Islamist activities, about other countries in
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the Middle East that the United.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: States isn't interesting.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Various Year's officials have estimated that America, in order to
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: replicate what Israel provides them in terms of intelligence, would
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: have to spend between fifteen to twenty billion dollars a year.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: So the United States gets back much, much, much, much
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: more than it gives Israel. It's not even close. And
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: yet they keep popping on this. This is the thing
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: that bothers them, which a clear indication that something else
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: is driving this. It's not Israel that really bugs them. Now,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: let me be very clear, I don't think the United
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: States should give Israel anything. I think Israel would continue
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: to shame intelligence. And I think Israel could afford this
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: three point eight billion. Maybe it's you know, the five
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: hundred million that is co development of the missile defense system.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, but the three point three billion, the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: United States should stop giving Israel. Israel doesn't need it.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: It's a rich country and it should get richer. It
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: needs to get richer. Its own self defense requires it
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: to get richer. But it all should stop giving. I mean,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: you should stop giving Israel aid. Maybe, you know, hopefully
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Israel continues to give the intelligence, but more importantly, it
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: will stop being a leverage that the United States can
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: use in Israel. It'll stop being leveraged that anti Semites
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: can use against Israel. You know, I think give Israel
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: a freer hand to determine its own affairs. And I
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: don't believe that America should be handing out money to countries.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: There's absolutely no reason I think the United State should
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: stop supporting Egypt and Jordan and all the other countries
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: in the Middle East that it sends dollars to more
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: than it sends to Israel, and it gets very little
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: in return for that money, but it's a drop in
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: a bucket, and America gets a big return on that investment.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I think it would get a lot of that anyway,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: because Israel will continue to buy F thirty five, continue
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: to give the manufacture the information they need, I think,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: will continue to provide the United States with the intelligence support.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: But let's just get rid of this issue. But basically
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: the United States stopping to support financially these rate lyings,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: there's just it's not necessary. How is it going to
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: get into giving you some quotes from Nick Foyentis, but really,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: you know it's unnecessary and frantis it talks about Jews
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: being demons that are destroying this country. He advocates killing
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: them all, at least the Jews that are demons. Maybe
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: the Jews that are not demons don't need to be killed.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: It's not clear. He he thinks Hitler is awesome, that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Hitler was right, that the Holocaust never happened. I'm not
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: sure what Hitler is right about if the Holocaust never happened.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Because Nick Foyentis agrees that a Holocaust.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Should happen, he wants to kill them.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Now. I mean, this is scum, This is scum. If
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: they have the was come, this is scum. He says. Quote,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: when we take power, the Jews will be needed to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: be given the death penalty. I'm formal considered about that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: than non white people. So say he hates Jews more
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: than he hates black people. In other words, anyway, the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: idea that you would give this person a stage, that
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: you would introduce him to his audience, that you would
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: not challenge everything that he says. The idea that Tucker
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Carlson is embraced by people like like the Avitage Foundation.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Is this despicable.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: One last thing I want to say again in the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: way that Trump supports all this and is supportive of
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: the whole kind of racist, white nationalist agenda. Whether he
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: himself is a racist or not, I do not know,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: but you know, we know the Miller is even though
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: Miller is Jewish, I guess, but he's supportive of all this.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: The United States declared at the end of last week
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: that it was restricting them out of asylum seekers to
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the United States the seven five hundred.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Now I'm supportive of that.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think the basis for coming to the United
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: States should be seeking asylum, and I think the basis
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: should be can you get a job?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: The one group that the Trump administration explicitly has said
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: a welcome as asylum seekers. The one group that they're
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: encouraging to come to the United States as asylum seekers.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: One group white South Africans of Afrikaners descent. So we
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: don't want brown people being persecuted by the Venezuelan government,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: we don't want brown people being persecuted by the communist
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: regime in Cuba. We don't want white people escaping gangs
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: in Guatemala or other places in Latin America. And we
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: don't want black people escaping violence in most of the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: countries of Africa. We want white people in Africa who
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: supposedly are being being persecuted in South Africa. Whether they
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: are they're not, it's not the point. It's we only
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: want white people. That is the one group the asylum
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: that we're happy to grant asylum to. And so most
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: of seventy five hundred that have now been approved for asylum,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: most of them are going to be South Africans Africanas.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Now it's not clear, it's not clear they're going to
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: be that many. That many Africanis want to leave South Africa.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: But that's the one group that he's opened up. If
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: that's not just again appeasing the white nationalists, appeasing the racists,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: appeasing the worst limits within the Republican Party. I don't
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: know what is by the way, just to give you
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: a sense, last year, the number of asylum seekers the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: war proved or the ceiling was one hundred and twenty
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: five thousands. They've gone one hundred twenty five thousand to
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: seventy five hundred. That's a pretty big drop, which is
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: fine by me if they open up immigration from other sources,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: which they won't. But it's the racist aspect of it,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: and it's clearly racist. There's no other justification for singling
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: out white South Africans. Well, you know, somebody system surprises,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: not Katari's what Kataries are not running away from anything
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: right there. The regime is super nice and super friendly
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: and that's what they want. So I support limiting refugees
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: and but else to support expanding work related visas, which
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration will not do.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: And I all support limiting the refugees.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: The white dudes, I know there's open talk of racial
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: hatred among certain people in the South African government believe me.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I have quite a few family members in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: South Africa and they have the same skin color as
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I do. So I know exactly what's going on in
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: South Africa, and I care about what's going on in
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: South Africa, and I worry about what's going on.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: In South Africa.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: And by the way, the South Africans get a lot
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: of money from Kato, and that is why they're so
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: wanta Israel and why they're the ones who brought prosecution
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: and the ICC against Israel for for it's the Katari
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: money is influence beyond the fact that they're leftists and
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: haters of Israel. Above and beyond that. Oh, old Greg says,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not very are you well informed? Please tell me
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm not well informed? What I'm not well informed about?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Old Greg says we should not be a nation that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: hosts ideological enemies. I agree, Nick Foyanti should be deported immediately.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: So Shia Taka Carlson, he's our ideological enemy, so let's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: get rid of him. I mean, I'm kidding, but you know,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: because I don't think and I don't think that's what
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Greg meant he's thus accusing me of misquoting. Uhis I paraphrased?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: But I've watched the Nick foy iNTS videos and no,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: it's very accurate. Nick Frantis is anti American. He is thoroughly, systematically,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: through and through anti American. He is as anti American
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: as mum Danis. They are twin brothers in a sense
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: in their anti Americanism. He is as anti American as
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: the worst leftist. And he is the kind of person
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: that the funding fathers and really the people who built
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: this country would find abhorrent and despicable.
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  Speaker 2: And he is.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: He is again, he's anti American. He's not America first,
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  Speaker 1: He's America last. And as most of the people who
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: declare themselves America first, they don't understand what America is.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: They have no conception of Americanism. They have no conception
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: of what America stands for. America is the land of individualism.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Nick Foytis is a through and through collectivist tribalists. And
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: if you don't see that, then you don't have. You
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  Speaker 1: can't think you've you've you've become uh part of the tribe.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: And they folk can't think, God, you guys are such
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  Speaker 1: some of you just.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, it's hard to believe, you know, this is the thing.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I get.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: A a biased kind of in terms of people who
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: who follow me, but maybe it's because of the title
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: had four intercendent. But the people in my chat are
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: so horrific and an expend some of them the extent
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: that they are representative of what's going on in America.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: It is really horrifying.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Now, again, it's probably not representative of what's going on
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of in most of America, but.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Uh, it is. It is truly truly horrific.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave thinking about, you know,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: if he has any access to what is going on
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: right now. So, yes, frentis as anti American Tucker Colson's
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: anti American. They have no conception of what America means,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: what America is. And the idea, the idea that the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Founders would have supported a anti Semite. You should you
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: should read, you know, George Washington's letter to the Jewish
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: community of Charleston.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: You should you should look at what Thomas Jefferson had
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: to say about separation of state from religion.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: You should you should.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Read what they had to say about individual individual rights.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: This country was proposely not founded as a Christian country.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: This is a country founded on secular values. This is
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: a country founded by deists, and it's some cases atheists
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: man of principle, not scumbags like Nick Foy. Inter's all right,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: let's uh, all right, let's turn to your questions. We
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: have quite a few, Thank you guys. You guys are
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: being very generous today, and there are a lot of questions,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: so we will cover them all as long as the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Wi Fi gods Wi Fi gods play along. All right,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Let's start with I thought I saw one hundred dollars question. Yeah,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: there's one hundred dollars question. Got a bunch of fifty
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: dollar questions, Thank you guys. All right, let's start with dum,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: where is it Michael? Who has one hundred dollars question?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: All right, America is not founded on Christian values, has
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: founded in Enlightenment values.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: Has founded on values that.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Relegated Christianity, relegated religion to your personal realm and keep
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: it out of the public square and keep it out
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: of government again. Read Thomas Jefferson. Read you know, read
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: the Statute on Religious Liberty and in the Virginia Constitution.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: You guys who claim to be America first, should learn
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit about America and not from Christian national
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: sources that pervert and distort the founders and make them
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: into what they would like them to be. But read
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the originals, Read the Federalist papers. Read Thomas Jefferson, you know,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: look at what he read and what he studied. Look
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: at even John Adams. Look at who they respected, look
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: at what they believed in, look at what they.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Stood for, and they.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: All right, Michael, thank you for one hundred dollars. Forty
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: percent of Trump's time is spent scheming for government manipulation
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: control to help his family business. Forty percent is spent
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: fixing problems he created. The remaining twenty percent is mostly
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: spent running around trying to garne a praise and attention
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: from others to fill his empty ego.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think he.
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  Speaker 1: Has to actually spend forty percent of his time to
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: manipulate things for his family business. I think that only
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: takes a small amount of his time. It's generated over
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: three billion dollars of profits for his family. So he
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: is by far the most corrupt president in American in
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: American history, and so you know he is. I don't
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: think he has to spend forty percent of the time.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: It's true that he spends a huge amount of time
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: fixing problems. He's creating and creating more problems by fixing them,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: so he's not really fixing them.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: He's just creating a whole sequence of.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Problems on top of problems, on top of problems. You know,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: we just got a trade deal with China. As I
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: told you beforehand that it wasn't a deal. It's not
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: a deal. It's just an outline of a deal, and
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: it's a truth. It's a cease fire for a year.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: It doesn't give the United States anything that it didn't
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: already have. The United States benefits zero from this deal.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: The United States was much better off visa vias relationship
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: with China before Trump started this whole trade war. The
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: United States is clearly losing the trade war. Every time
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Trump meets with she, he gives in, he gives she
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: more stuff. So, yes, he spends a lot of it,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: and all of it, including that is there to gone
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: a attention and praise. You know, he spends much of
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: his time claiming to have established the only piece in
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: the Middle East in three thousand years and then preventing
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: as well from actually destroying its enemies and.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Holding them back. It really is, it really is.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, he really is pathetic. He really is pathetic.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: But yes, Michael, thank you for the support. Really really
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: really appreciate it. On top of everything else that you do.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: I see that.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: Let's see, we have a robust debate going on in
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: my chat about jay Daiya is a complete rationalist, detach
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: from reality. You know, the idea that he won the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: debate is absurd when he completely distorts and perverts the
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: concepts that he uses and refuses refuses to accept any
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: epistemology but his distorted epistemology. So a debate with him
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: is impossible because he wants to set all the terms.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: But anyway, you know, I'm getting ignored the chat Iron Maycut.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: It was fund seeing you in Krakou. Yes, met some
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: awesome people at the bar Ps Gaza de la Nada. Yeah,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: I was still working on that. Yeah, it was good
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: to see you on Maycut. Thank you for being there,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you for all your support. We had a great
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: event in Krakou about thirty five students at the University there,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: it was awesome morality of capitalism. In between, I spoke
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: at the Feet Cities conference in Prague, had about one
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: hundred people in the audience, maybe more, maybe one fifty,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: and I talked about did I what did I talk
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: about there? White freedom? White freedom? Why you should care
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: about freedom? And what's the purpose of freedom? Freedom is
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: not an end in itself. Freedom is a means to
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: an end and what is that end? Talked about self
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: interest and talked about happiness and it was good. It
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: pissed off a bunch of people. Dave, good to see you, Dave,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: thank you for the support. Dave says, I love I've
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: loved for Cormo. Today. In my area there are many
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: Mamdani campaigners. I chatted with some and they're non nihilistic
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: like Antifa or ideological Marxist.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: They're idealists. Most of high income earners.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I suspect, with advanced degrees, that's what
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: I suspected, the delusional about how to achieve human flourishing.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: But they're the type of crowd more likely to be
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: a sponsors to objectivism then the fascist boots and the right.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. They're typically software engineers or professionals.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: They make a lot of money. A lot of them
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: live in Brooklyn, I know where you talk to them,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: but Mamdani has a lot of support in the wealthy
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: areas of Bookland where these professionals live.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: And they are they're delusional.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: They be miseducated, dramatically miseducated since they were in kindergarten.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: They don't understand capitalism, it's benefits. They have this, you know,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: naive but also evasive view because they purposefully don't look
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: at it too carefully of socialism. And they don't like
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Israel because they buy all the images of bombing babies,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: and they have this vague notion that Israel has done
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: something hoppable to the Palestinians and Israel as strong after all,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: something must be wrong, you know, they must have not
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: something bad to be strong. They bought, They bought into
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: some extent or another. They bought into the intersectionality argument.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: They're altruists because that's all they've known, all they've known
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: throughout their life is altruism. So yeah, I agree with you.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: They're not nihilists per se. The consequence of what they're
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: doing is nihilism and they are evasive. They do evade
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: in order to be able to vote for money. They
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: have to evade a huge amount not to have a jolgorithm.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Many on the left, however, wrong philosophically, still operate within
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: the framework of the Constitution. They act through laws and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: institutions rather than by personal decree, which makes them substantially
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: less dangerous than the New Right. Yeah, I agree completely.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: It's one of my arguments about voting for Trump, particularly
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: the second time, when it was clear that he was
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: going to be guided by the New Right, that he
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: was going to surround himself by the new Right, and
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: that he was dedicated to himself to breaking the system,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: a system that he hates and despises. He has no
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: respect for the Constitution and he wants.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: To break it.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: And yes, at least the left will do a lot
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: of damage. But the left does damage within parameters that
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: are easily reversible because they do it within the parameters
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: of the law and the Constitution. They're not quite ready
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: to declare the Constitution irrelevant as Trump is. That makes them,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: i think, less dangerous, even if in a short run
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: very very damaging.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Not your average algorithm. If we fail to distinguish routine.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: People who follow the rule of law and people who
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: seek to rule by whim, you've already surrendered the ground
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: of principle. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe you can defend Trump.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: And still label yourself an objectivist at this point, you know,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: it depends how you defend it. Trump again, I have
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: some I have some tolerance. I have some understanding of
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: people in business who voted for Trump and might defend
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: certain things about Trump, and I have some understanding of that,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: particularly before the election. I think since the election, Trump
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: is manifest the worst, you know, the worst possibilities is
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: as bad as the worst of what I expected. But look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't I mean, the whole idea of calling yourself
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: an objectivist, and who calls himself an objectist that doesn't
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: conversect is not of interest to me. What really matters
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: to me is the truth. What matters to me is
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: are you a truth seeker? The question is, are people, really,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: even the people who supported Trump, able to look at
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: him with any objectivity? Are they willing to see the
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: evil that's there even as they see the elements of
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: good that they think is there. I don't think there's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: any good in Trump, but the elements of good? Can
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: they really you know, criticize them? So, for example, people
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: won't criticize Trump that I think is horrific and despicable.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not ready to say everybody who
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: is elected, who voted for him, or everybody who supports
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: him in some way cannot be an objectivist. But again,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: what is an objectivist? Co objectivist? I don't think you
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: know who you vote for. I don't think it's that
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: valuable to categorize people that way. But are you a
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: truth seeker? And therefore are you willing to not evade
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: and look clearly and objectively and rationally and what Trump
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: actually stands for and what Trump actually does?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Andrew?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: Many anti Semites suffer from a motivation by hate? Is
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: that motivation by fear at the core? Do you blame
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: modern philosophy for the creation of the hatred? Still, despite
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: modern philosophical influences, don't they have a choice to be evil?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: I mean everybody out there is influenced by modern philosophy,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: and some either rejected philosophy or they let it bounce
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: off of them, or it affects them its submoginal issues,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: But they don't become haters, They don't let it consume them.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: Do I blame modern philosophy, yes, I mean, you know,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: it's if you want to understand the impact philosophy has
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: on people's lives in our politics, redominant powers down as powers.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: Where doctor Peacock really explains the rise of Hitler from
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: the perspective of the ideas that were prevalent in Many
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: at the time and in the decades leading to his rise.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: And if you look at America today and that's the
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: dominant powerlel the parallel is America. You see the same
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: ideas prevalent in our culture. So it is contient philosophy
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: and it's you know, post modern implementation, and it's combination
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: with religion that is leading to this modern form of
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: anti semitism because that all leads towards collectivism, that all
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: leads towards tribalism. And look, anti semitism is every collectivistic
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: culture out there is going to be anti Semitic, because
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: collectivism is all about my group versus all the other groups.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: And however you define my group in any kind of nation,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: the Jews are going to be the other. The Jews
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: are the other. In Germany, the Jews of the other
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: in America, and they're particularly an offensive other because they
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: are religiously different, they're somewhat culturally different. And now there's
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: this country called Israel that supposedly they're aligned with. They're
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: affiliated with that, you know, can you can blame them
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: for everything.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: That it does.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: So it is collectivism and tribalism that are on the rise,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: and the consequence of that is antisemitism. Anti Semitism is
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: not the primary it is the consequences. By the way,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: the more Christian you become, the more anti Semitic you'll become.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: The reality is the Christianity is the origin of antisemitism.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: It is the beginning of antisemitism. It starts with Paul,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: and it starts with the church fathers. It starts with
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: the debates of the church fathers. Y you know about
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: the horrible Jews that do not accept Christ and what
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: should be done with them? And some other church fathers
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: some of the first original great theologians of Christianity basically
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: said Jews need to be killed because they won't accept Christ.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: I mean it was Augustine, who was the moderate, who
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: said they shouldn't be killed, they should be kept alive.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: To suffer so that everybody can constantly see what happens
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: to those who do not accept Christ. You know, the
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: Crusades were first and foremost about killing Jews, and then
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: we'll go to Jerusalem and kill them Muslims. But Christianity
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: is the source of anti Semitism, and it's the breeding
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: ground of anti Semtism. And therefore what you get is
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: as the country becomes more tribal, more collectivistic, and therefore
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: and more Christian, it'll become more anti Semitic.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: That's on the right and on the left.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: The anti Semitism comes from collectivism and altruism. So you know,
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: it's intersectionality. It's the fact that Jews are successful. It's
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: the fact that the same thing happened in Germany. The
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Jews are successful, but they're the other, and they're scheming
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: against us, and they're bad, and therefore they must be eliminated.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: And I think the same attitude exists today. Of course,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: the Jews killed Christian killed Jesus. And notice that they
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: don't blame the Romans for killing Jesus. They don't blame
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: the Roman Empire for killing and that's purposefully done. You know,
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Originally the Romans were blamed for killing Jesus. They were
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: the primary cause of Jesus's death. But then when the
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Roman Empire became christian that is, when Constantine brought Christianity
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: into the Roman Empire, made Christianity a part of Roman identity,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: then it didn't make sense for them to continue blaming
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: themselves for killing Jesus, so they shifted. You know, Pontus Pius,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: the Roman was just a tool of the Jews. He
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: was just being manipulated by the Jews. And you know,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: the Jewish clergy, the Jewish leadership, the Jewish establishment, and
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: they're the ones who actually killed Jesus. And of course
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: he was betrayed by jew but then most of all
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: of his followers were Jews. Right, he was a Jew,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: but he was a Jew who led a new sac
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: who led a cult.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: And so that.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Again, Christianity is very much the source of anti Semitism.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Jews might have been hated before that, but certainly all
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: forms of anti Semitism post Jesus are influenced by Christian
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: anti Semitism. So it's a combination of modern philosophy, kant
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: and post content philosophy.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: And Christianity and on the left.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: It's mostly secular post continent philosophy and Marxism. Marx was
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: an antisemity. I mean, Marx sounds like Nick Filantis. When
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: Nick Franis complains about capitalist Jews and Jewish greed, it
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: sounds exactly like Max. Call Max. It's as if he's
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: reading for Carl Marx's essay on the Jewish Question. Troy,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: thank you. Troy just came in with five hundred Australian dollars.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: Really really really appreciate that. Thank you, thank you, Thank you, Troy.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: That is amazing. Yeah, all right, Harper Campbell, It's sad
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: to see the author of Dominus Parallels being exploited in
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: his old age and poor health by Trump psychopaths like
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: Dave Hammond.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like that.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: You call Dave Hammond a psychopaths. I think that's fitting
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: as a justification for their boot licking support of an authoritarian.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's it's really really.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Sad to see Dave Hammond associating with Lennar Peacoff. You
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: should have been Leonard should have nothing to do with Dave,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: And I think a younger Leonard would have nothing.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: To do with Dave Hammond. It's really sad By.
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  Speaker 1: You said last show that we should teach the found
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: Head to our kids. Doesn't that mean you have to
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: marry an objectivist? What if your spouse wants to teach
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: your kids some collectivist book or religious book, then let
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: them that is, you know, then present the kids with
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: both sets of ideas and let the kids make a choice.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: But to ignore the ideas that you hold, or to
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: ignore the ideas that your wife holds or your husband holds,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: I think is wrong. So present them with both views,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: present them with both ideas, and let the kids make
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: a decision instead of creating a vacuum.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: So no, you don't have to marry an objectives to that.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: If your spouse wants to once the present day views,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: let them And again, all right, Chasbad has a correction,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: and we're not burying the correction, right, Chasbad says important correction.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: On the last show, I quoted Lieutenant Frank Drebben the
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Naked Gun as receiving an award for killing one hundred
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: drug dealers. It was actually one thousand drug dealers. Oh,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: so Trump has a way to go before he gets
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: the thousand drug dealers on those boats, because he's only
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: killing him one or two at a time, or two
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: or three at a time. So it's going to be
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: a while. A lot of boats are going to have
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: to be blown out out of the water for that
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, we'll talk more about that on another show.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, chezmun Now javj ago with him.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Trump doesn't even pretend to operate within a constitutional frame.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: He treats the law as a tool of loyalty and vengeance,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: not as a principle that binds every individual equally.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's true.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: But more than that, he treats the law as as
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: an obstacle to achieving his goals. He treats the law
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: as an obstacle to be overcome given the goals that
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: he has. He doesn't treat the laws as principles to
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: guide social action, principles to guide the limitation on government.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: On the contrary, he finds the Constitution and the laws.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: Too limiting of him.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Will see in the arguments in front of the court
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: around tariffs how that plays out. Trump doesn't want to
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: be limited by all these laws and the Constitution and
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. He finds that offensive, Michael. As much
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: as Trump advises one fascist control over the economy. Does
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Trump p betferre a strong stock market he can take
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: credit for, because you can't have both. The one thing
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: preventing our economic enslavement is Trump's narcissism.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: I think he wants he wants both.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: And look, he's got all these tariffs and the stock
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: market's doing fantastic. Now, whether we'll continue to do fantastic,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: How long the stock market could stay as high as
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: it is, I don't know, But yes, Trump wants us
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: a good stock market, wants a good bond market. He
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: wants lower interest rates, and he wants control over the economy.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: And he can't have everything at the same time. And
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: there's polls and tugs and it's but a lot of
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: it's out of his control. He doesn't actually control the
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: stock market.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: So if.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: There's a significant correction in the marketplace, in the stock market,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: what's Trump.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: Going to do?
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he'll have much control over it.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's much he can do one way
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: or the other, even if he wants a successful stock market.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: Very few presidents to do. Somebody says all criticism of
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: Israel is any Semitic. There's no legitimate cored Israel. That's
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: not true. I criticize Israel all the time. There's absolutely
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: legitimate criticism of Israel. There's a lot of things Israel
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: does badly wrongly, Paul, How do sanctions against a country
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: actually work? How can executive branch issue sanctions? Can other
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: countries sanction US sales? Yes, sanctions work by for example,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: we freeze the bank accounts of Russian oligarchs, so they
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: can't withdraw the money from their bank accounts. The bank
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: cannot release the money to them, cannot release the money
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: to anybody.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: It's just fozen in place.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: And you know other countries can do that to Americans
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: who have money in their banks. You know, America took
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: the yachts of saying and I Russian oligogs, so the
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: things like that. Now, it's part of understanding is and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not expert on this, but understanding is that there
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: are laws that give the executive branch the authority to
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: extend sanctions in other countries. For example, they're not allowed
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: to buy wheats from you're not allowed to buy some
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: product from country acts. For example, you can't you can't
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: buy Cuban cigars. I think that's stupid. But you can't
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: buy Cuban cigars, right, that's illegal. That's a form of sanction.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: So it's just a banning of a particular product from
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: a particular plays, and I think the executive their laws
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: that have given the executive the power to do that
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: as part of their responsibility for pharm policy. The oceanist
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: collectivism is easy. It's easier to blame an other for
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: your personal shortcomings. Absolutely, a lot of these people, whether
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: left or right, are insecure and will blame the immigrant
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: or the billionaire for their faults. Yes, so yeah, I
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: mean that's absolutely the case. But I don't think that's
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: the source of collectivism. I don't think that's where collectivism
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: actually comes from. Collectivism collectivism doesn't come from blaming the other.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Collectivism comes from, you know, a lack of self esteem,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: a lack of confidence in one's own judgment, and again
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: the philosophy, the ideology that one's own judgment doesn't count,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: that one's own life doesn't count.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: It comes from altruism.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: It tells you that you should sacrifice for others, and
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: if others are more important than you, that's collectivism, right.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: Collectivism is that others are above you. The group, whatever group,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: some group is more important than you as an individual.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: That the source of that is lack of self esteem.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: The source of that is a distrust of your own
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: capacity to think and reason. And the source of that
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: is a morality that tells you, and that you buy
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: into that says that your happiness, your success, your flourishing
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: is not important. What's important is other people, and you
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: should you are just a sacrificial lamb for their sake.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Well which other people, Well, you have to choose a
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: group to sacrifice too, and that becomes your collective, that
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: becomes your standard, that becomes your guide. It's driven by
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: altruism and anti reason. That's what drives collectivism. And then
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: once you form a collective and you're still unhappy and
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: you're still miserable, and you're still all of that, then
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: you turn against the successful other and you blame them
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: for your failings, just as you describe. But that's kind
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: of a consequence, is not the motivation? Andrews says, what
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: is the significance of wanting to belong to the majority
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: group as a motive among Christian collectivists? If JD stayed
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: an atheist, he could not have become a prominent statement
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: and adorned by an adorned by so many as he
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: is now.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I think I.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Think this is truly an intellectual transition for Jdvance. I
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: don't think this was motivated by his desire for power.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: I think when he became a Christian, he was not
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: yet contemplating politics. And we know the influence that made
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: him Christian, and that influence was somebody he respected. It was.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Peter Teel.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: Peter Teel who is a Catholic but a kind of
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: a quirky Catholic, and introduced him to this theologian that
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Todd at Stanford, and I forget his name, but that
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: influenced Peter Teel, and he influenced Jade Vance and then JD.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Evans ultimately converted to Catholicism. But I don't think that trend,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: that whole process, and that transition were motivated by a power.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: I think it was motivated by maybe a need to
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: belong to a group. But again, it wasn't a need
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: to belong to a group because he wanted power. It
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: was a need to belong to a group because psychologically
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: he wanted to belong to a group. It also is
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: true that unless you have self esteem and unless you
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: have a strong sense of values that you know, for
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: some people, atheism is empty. Atheism is empty. Atheism is
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: just a negation of God. It's not pro anything. And
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: I think Jadvans was looking for something and part of
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: it is social and part of it is intellectual. But
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think the primary was political. I don't think
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: the primary is political. Yeah, all right, Roland support from
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: my fellow leftist extremists. That's me, a leftist extremist rogers.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you, it says, thank you. I think you are
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: just thank you for the support.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: John.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is the question he asks every few weeks.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: Long term, what's the greatest threat to Europe? Christianity or Islam? Christianity.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Islam is the short term threat. Islam is what will
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: allow Christianity to rise UH and UH and become UH
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: and become a real threat. It is the response to the
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: Islam that the Christian nationalists in Europe will have, that
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: is the that is the worst threat to Europe. Uh.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: This is why UH, it's important for for secular Europeans
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 1: to deal with most Now, if secular Christians deal with
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: if secular secular Europeans deal with a Muslim problem now,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: then they will take away the impetus for the rise
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: of Christian nationalism in Europe. So radios as I says,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: long term threat to Europe is nihilism. Yes, but nihilism
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: can come from the right or from the left right,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: it can come from Christianity, or from you know, leftist.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: Crazies, all for that matter, from Muslims.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: But I think that, as I often said, Europeans will
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: some point wake up to the Islamic threat if the
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: Islamists get violent, and will wipe them out, and then
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the process turn Europe fascist.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: And that I think the long term threat.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: Michael, has the right always been racist, They just a
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: point in political dominance where they can stop hiding it.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they've always been racist.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, but certainly the Civil rights period
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: was a turning point. You know, a lot of the
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: states that were racist, a lot of the South were Democrats.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of the people who were.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Racists in the nineteen sixties were Democrats, and they were upset.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: Those Democrats were upset.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: By the Democratic Party supporting the civil rights movement. They
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: were upset by liberal Democrats coming down to the South
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: and supporting black in a sense of emancipation and equal
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: rights for blacks. And that was Nixon's Southern strategy. It
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: was to capture them, to convert them to those racists,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: to convert them to a Republican party. And they became
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: a part of the Republican Party. And it looked like
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: for a long time, I'd say, from the mid seventies
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: until the mid twenty teens, that the racism had been suppressed,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: that generally whites had become a lot less racist, that
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: racism was in decline, and it was fading from America.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that it was just buried, but it
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: was always there, and it has come out of its
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: hiding place and has been legitimized. And again I think
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: that Trump did a lot to legitimize it and to
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: make it acceptable to come out onto the surface. Jennifer says,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: what is Zion isn't supposed to mean doesn't mean a
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: safe place like Israel for Jews to live, or doesn't
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: mean a collectivistic Jewish state. It seems to be used
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: in different ways. I think it means different things to
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: different people. For some people, it means a collectivistic Jewish state,
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: and there's definitely a lot of collectivism in Israel. I
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: I criticize Israel all the time. I left Israel because
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: of how collectivistic a state it was. But I think
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: the b the the more positive UH interpretation of Zionism,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: and I think Zionism as intended by its founder, Theodore Hertzel,
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: was a state for the Jews, not a Jewish state.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: A state for the Jews is a refuge for Jews,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: a place the Jews can go to, a liberal country
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: that did not discriminate against other others. And Israel does
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: not discriminate against Arabs, Christians, against Jews, a a against Muslims.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: It does not discriminate against them. So it gives them
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: equal it gives them equal rights. So it's not in
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: that sense in ethno state. The only sense in which
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: the the the collectivism UH or the the the Jewishness,
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: if you will, comes in is an immigration policy. That is,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: Jews can immigrate to Israel freely. It's open boaders for Jews.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Others can't. They can still immigrate, but it's very hard
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: and the numbers are small, so it's close to non
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Jews for the most but not not exactly. I mean
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: you could see in the in the hostages that Hamas
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: took on October seventh, some of them were Nepalese, some
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: of them are tie These are people who come to
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: work in Israel. You know, my parents have two helpers
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: who live with them. One is from Subri Lanka and
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: one is from India. Neither one of them is Jewish,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: and they're going to live in Israel for a long time.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: They make money and they send it back home. So
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Zionism is not Again Theodo Hutze would have
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: viewed it as a refuge for Jews, a state in
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: which Jews are safe, but not a Jewish state in
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: a sense of Jewish law. And I think to all
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: you say Israel is that there are people in Israel
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: who would like to make it a Jewish state, who
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: would like to eliminate any separation of state from religion
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: and discriminate against Muslims and Christians. But I think it's
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: still true that the majority in Israel are pro some
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: form of separation, not complete, but a significant form of
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: separation of state from religion and equal rights to all religions.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: And in that sense, again, I view Israel as a
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: state for Jews, not as a Jewish state, and I
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: think the difference between those two is important. I just
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: criticize Israel. Does that make me an anti Semite? I
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: don't know, all right, thotionist. How long until the right
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: abandons Trump? An open secret that Tucker hates him and
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: for intus is very critical of him. Well, I don't
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: think that'll abandon Trump because they view Trump as a
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: vehicle to get their way, so they will stick by
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: Trump as long as Trump is there. He is a
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: way to get them. Jdvans, Tucker Coulson and Jdvans are
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: good friends. And while the points is not supportive of JD. Evans,
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: maybe he'll be brought around by Tucker Caulson. Whoever becomes
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: the nominee of the Republican Party, Nick fo Inis and
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson will have a lot of say in who
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: that person is. They view Trump as a vehicle and
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: he served He's been a very good vehicle for them,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: so they will continue to support him as long as
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: he's that vehicle that gets them what they want. Liam
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: are Republicans better locally than nationally. Republican governors tend to
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: run their states better than democratic governors, but when they
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: run the federal government, they fascism emerges.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you're generalizing.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: I think the reality is that the governors, most of them,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: not all of them, but most of them are more
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: mainstream conservatives and less Maga. Now there are some mega
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: governors out there, and there's some real problems in those states.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's there's real evil in Texas and
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: in many of the Southern states when it comes to
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: things like abortion, for example, real evil. You know, they
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: do some good things and then they do some really, really,
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: really bad things. So what does it mean that they
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: run their states better? In what sense?
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: Economically? A lot of these Southern states.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: Are super poor, super poor with really horrible educational attainment.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: So right, so I'm not convinced that Republican governors are better.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, in some states they are, but they tend
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: to be like Jolkin's in Virginia. He's a pretty moderate Republican, right,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 1: and he's not He's not Maga. The former governor of
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: Georgia not Maga. I mean, I think DeSantis is in
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: Florida is this mixture. He's got some good things and
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: he's got some really bad things in Texas. There's some
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: really bad things and some good things. So it's it's
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: it's a mixed bag. Governors. Republican governors are mixed bags.
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: And it's not clear that past Republican presidents were fascist
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: or even that most Republican senators as such. But most
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: Republican senators have decided that they're going to support Trump
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: no matter what that that is. That is cowardly of them,
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: but that is the reality. Harpercampbell, will you be exposing
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: Harriman before the New Year's Eve show? I don't know
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: how much money will you give me? I don't know.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But there's no I mean, no rush.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: I like numbers. People like Mark Levin on the right
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: are pushing back against for intest, Yeah, but they have
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: no Ultimately, they have no following, they have no base.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: Isn't the lesson that you can have more influence on
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: the right by being part of it? I don't understand
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: that at all. I mean, who has more influence on
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: the right by being part of it? I mean, and
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: who wants to be part of it? Why would you
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: want to be part of a right that includes Nick
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: Foy intis? And does that Why would I mean, if
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: you if you have actional ideas, wouldn't your wouldn't your
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: audience see right through you that you're training those ideas
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: by being in a coalition with Tucker Casson and Nick Fourentes.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: How could you have integrity?
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: By being in that coalition, you lose all credibility, James,
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: the GP is maybe ten to fifteen years away from
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: being an explicit Nazi party anti semitism and racism and
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: being successfully mainstream.
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: Listen to JD.
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: Vans at the Turning Point USA and the other day
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: talking about fundamental differences of Christianity and Judaism, the error
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: of Judo Christianity values over well.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: And I think that's good.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: Because it was always it was always unreal Judo christian
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: values as if they were good or as if they
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: were the.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: Same, then they're not.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 1: But I agree with you now, I don't think the
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 1: GP is going to become Nazi. I don't think it
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: will be explicitly Nazi. But I do think the era
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: of Christian nationalism, which is what Leonard predicted in Dim.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: Is upon us.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: And it's a matter of yeah, ten fifteen years before
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: we have full on with him helping a party is
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: a full on Christian nationalist party.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: It's right there.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: Henry Allen, in his dim book Peacock predicted Christian Sotulitanism
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: taking over.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: Have you spoken to him about this what's going on today?
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Does he know about Project twenty twenty five and fu Intas?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: I have not spoken to him about it. I haven't
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: spoken to him seriously about politics. I think since twenty twenty. Yeah,
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: I think around twenty twenty was the last time we
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: had a serious political philosophical discussion. So no, as I said,
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: we haven't talked about it. Does he know about Project
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five or Funtas? Look Leonard gets I think
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: at least last time I talked to him, you know
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: about this? He got most of his news from Macklevin
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: and the New York Post. It's the extent that they
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: covered it. He would know about it. And Macklevin is
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: pushing against Nick Foyenttis, but I think Mark Levin is
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: probably minimizing the significance of Nick Foyenttis and his influence
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: among uh on the right. And I don't know how
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: much talk it was a Project twenty twenty five, so
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much Leonard knows about either one
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: of those things and to what extent it sinks in
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 1: or it's the full implication and manifestation of those things
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: sinks in or has been explained to him by anybody. Again,
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: the only people, the only person I can think of
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: who might have done it is Mark Levin. But Mark
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 1: Levin is very mixed on these things. He's not mixed
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: on nickfoy Inis. But his criticism is going to be shallow,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: and he is not going to emphasize how influential Nickfoorentis is.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: He's going to downplay that thochanist. Yeah, Azrael controls the US.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 1: That's why in the eighties US Marine stopped Israelis from
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: going to Parts and be roots. Just don't look up
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: how the locals thank the Marines.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: That all is a little confusing, you know.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was Ronald Reagan who stopped Israel from going
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 1: into West Bay Route and finishing off yes Ralpha in
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 1: his in his fighters and the Marines were deployed, and
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: of course the Marines were killed to undred forty four
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 1: Marines were killed in their barracks by what became Risbala,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: by the Iranians and Chris Bala, But yeah, Israel does
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: not control the US Visuel control the US.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 2: Israel would have. Israel would not have been stopped in.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy three from finishing the job versus the Egyptians.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: Israel would not have been stopped in Beirut in nineteen
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: eighty three. Israel would not have been stopped to kill
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yes or Alpha In during the second d the fat
• 2:04:59
  Speaker 1: in the early two thous thousands, and Isaul would not
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: have agreed to the cease fire which prevented it. You know,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: is this close to going in and occupying Gaza and
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: slowly dismantling Hamas. The whole war that it's prosecuted against
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: Hamas was to lodge extent done based on American rules.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Clark says, I don't think Nick Frite, this is a
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: real person. This creature has mastered trolling to find art.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: He must be secretly amazed by how far he's come. Probably,
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 1: but he's come far, and he is real. And you know,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: in either case, the phenomenon is real, his following is real,
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: and it's scary. Michael is Israeli is so intense and
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: rude because of trauma from the Holocaust and constantly fighting wars,
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: or because they're more intellectual and have absorbed content. Collective
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: is philosophy. Deeply, I don't think either one of those
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 1: is true. I mean, I think they're they're more intense
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know that they're rude. Part
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: of that is an intensity because they live in a
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: region that's constantly a war. They don't have time for nonsense.
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: They just wanted to get on with things. They don't
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: like standing in the queue. They don't like standing in line.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: That's part of it. Yeah, I mean there's suddenly an
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: element of the collectivism. There's certainly an element of you know,
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: a zero some mentality that comes from years under socialism.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: That is part of that.
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: But a lot of it has to do with But
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: it's also you know, people in the Mediterranean are like
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: this heat generates a certain i don't know, a certain
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 1: type of energy when you live in a hot place.
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: It's also because it's a kind of a melting pot
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: of so many different cultures.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, people think of.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a a mono culture place because they're all Jews,
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: But these Jews have come from all corners of the world,
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 1: and they being with them much of the culture of
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: the places they left. So it is really a multicultural place,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: and it's a it's a melting pot of places, and
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: you get this class of cultures within Israel. It's very
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: much alive even today. Uh. And that's what people don't understand.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: People say, oh, it's it's it's uh. They don't believe
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 1: in multiculture. Not in the countrary. It's it's unbelievably multicultural.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: There are Skenazi Jews from all parts of Europe. There's
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: Fogging Jews from Northern Africa, the Jews from Iraq and
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: Yemen and and and Ethiopia. You know, black Jews with skin.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 1: That's it's it's completely black. There are Jews from Central
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 1: Asia from who's Bikistan and Afghanistan and areas like that.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 1: The Jews from India. They're even Jews that were born
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: in China. They might not be Chinese, but they were
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 1: raised in.
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: China and they bring a lot of that, you know.
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: And the Jewish cultures in each pace were different, The
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: ceremonies were different, the passages, you know, the holidays were
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: celebrated differently, they didn't. So it's a very much a
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: place of mingling and again a melting part of different cultures,
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 1: and that's part of the intensity.
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 2: I think, Andrew.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: The low character of these Conservatives stands out, the rankdous
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 1: honesty and lack of integrity, the pettiness and meanness. What
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 1: is to gain if they lose their soul on that
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 1: they ignore Christ? Yeah, I mean these are not smart people,
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 1: the manipulative people, just like Trump. These are people that
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: have embraced Trump, who's got the characteristics the character of
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 1: a mafia boss as president of the United States, just
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: that it brings them to such a low state that
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: everything else just seems Yeah, it doesn't seem that difficult, right, So.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: You know they are the Conservatives have become I mean,
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 1: they support a man who is inhaeritly dishonest and has
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 1: no integrity, So why would they have any Trump has
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 1: brought down the Republican Party to his level, and that's
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: what you're getting, Michael. What do you think of Ron DeSantis?
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think what he's done to cater to MAGA,
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: but Florida is thriving and he is a very smart,
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 1: competent leader. Paving the way in property tax abolition. Yeah,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 1: I mean the property tax abolition is not as good
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 1: as I originally thought it was.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 2: It's not for second homes.
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: It's up to certain level, so it's not as good
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 1: as I thought it was, but it's good. It's cutting
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: taxes catas to MAGA in all kinds of ways. There
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 1: was something that Florida just did was just horrific. You know,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: they banned artificial meat, all kinds of stupid things. So
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: he's a real mixed bag, a real mixed bag who
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: I think has not lost some of the better ideas
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: the conservatives used to have, but it's trying to mingle
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: it and integrate it with MAGA and what is left
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 1: as a mishmash.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 2: Liam.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: How does Malay compare to Pinochet in terms of economic reforms.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 2: I think they're very similar.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: Pinochet went further partially because he was a dictator and
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: he could. But Pinochet didn't believe in any of their reforms.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: Pinochet wasn't the driver of their reforms, the drivers of
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: the reforms of the Chicago Boys. Pinochet gave them the
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: economic rains out of desperation, not out of a not
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: out of agreement, out of any kind of sense of
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 1: free markets. Milay gets all the credit for what he's done.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: Pinochet does not a pinochet again. Gave it out of
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: his sense of desperation. The economic reforms are deep in Chile,
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: but also they did them over a longer period of time,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: so Milay is just starting. We'll see what happens over
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 1: the next to the ten years before we compare them. Right,
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: Jacob submitted the green card application from my wife last week.
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: I hope JD and his supporters feel five times the
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: anxiety what we had to go through. Yeah, I mean,
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 1: that's just horrible that it's so difficult, just horrible. Hopefully
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: it goes smoothly and congratulations Liam. Mathematical concepts part of
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: objectives to reality, objective reality like a perfect circle. Concepts
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: like infinity are important in mathematics, but don't seem to
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 1: correspond to reality. That's right. So, I mean mathematical concepts
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: are concepts, are abstractions. They you know, those abstractions can
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: can be understood in terms of things in reality, like
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: like circles, and you can imagine what a perfect circle
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 1: is versus circles. And but so mathematical concepts are abstractions
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: of things in reality, yes, but are they all of
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: them objective reality?
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 2: No?
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: I mean some are on, some are not right. So
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: infinity doesn't think there's no such thing as infinity. I mean,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: this is a great question for Harry Binswunger, who's done
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of work in the philosophy of mathematics. You know,
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 1: some mathematical concepts are but relationships. Some mathematical concepts, you know,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 1: correspond to mathematics. I mean, ultimately it's all reducible to reality,
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: but it requires multiple steps because some mathematical concepts of
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 1: high level abstractions, but all of them are reducible to
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: phenomena in reality.
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: Michael.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: While both left and right hate the Constitution, they use
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: it when opposing party is in power to limit their
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: power freedom by act and convenience rather than principle.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely so.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: They're both use the Constitution to the extent that it
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 1: supports their agenda, and they'll be mad at the Constitution
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: to the extent that it restricts their ability to.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 2: Do the things that they would want to do. Crypto fanatic.
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: If economy and state are separate, should incorporation laws exist, Yes,
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 1: just like marriage laws should exist. And there's a bunch
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: of others. It's just a shorthand for contracts. Incorporation could
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: exist without without incorporation laws, but incorporation laws and.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: Unefficient mechanism. And given that.
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: These particular types of contracts are going to be adjudicated
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: in courts, in state courts, a standardized format for them,
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: it is a huge advantage. So having incorporation laws makes
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: a lot of stense. It also makes sense that they're
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: at the eight level, and there's some competition between states
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: in terms of what incorporation laws each state has, and
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: corporations can move from one to the other and then
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: and then the courts interpret them. So yeah, absolutely, you know,
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: there's nothing statist or interventionist about incorporation laws. They're just
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: setting a particular type of contract that people can either
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: use or not use. They can try to form different
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: types of corporations with different types of contracts, and you
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: can know incorporation laws. That would be fine. Michael, since
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: America is there's's only ally, doesn't continue I have to
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: bow down to Trump.
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: Well, if he.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: Thinks that Asrael's that that is true, that it's an
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: only ally, I'm not sure that's true. But if he
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: thinks that's true, and if he thinks that, Trump will
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: will several relationships with his roll, or penalize him significantly
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: if he, you know, doesn't agree with him.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: I don't think that will happen.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think Trump will just say if you don't
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 1: do what I tell me, tell you, we're going to
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 1: walk away. Now, that might happen one day, but I
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: don't think America is in that position right now. So
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 1: I think Natagniel has a lot of leeway to say
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: no to Trump if he wants to, because Trump on
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: the stands, or at least people some of the people
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: around Trump at the stand that America needs his roll.
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 1: Michael says, can he try and get on Logan Paul's podcast.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: He's had Peter schiff On and interviews all the famous
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: people who've moved to Puerto Rico. I mean, I guess
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not famous because he has in contact with me.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: But I will try, so I will flag that and
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: I will try. Though sheanist. I know it was a
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: while ago, but tucka covering the Russian Grocery Store of
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: my of Michael Moore's coverage of Cuba excellent comparison. Absolutely,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't think of it when I talked about Tucker's
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: covering the grocery store. But you're absolutely right. The parallel
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: is striking, all right, Crypto fanatic. Do you think any
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: forms of infrastructure like Rhodes Bridge's airport's ports, rail, electric
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: good pipeline d DA DA DA DA should be government
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: owned at all or all be private? All be private?
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: I think they should all everything should be private. I
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: mean a few military bases and a few buildings that
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: the government needs in order to run things.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: Everything else should be private. And even though it should
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: probably be private and least of the government Tom having
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: more than one passport is not a bad thing. Patriotism
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: does not mean you should only have the ability to
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: live in one country thoughts.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's absolutely right.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 1: You can be a patriot and also realize that a
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: your country can can go bad pretty quickly and you'll
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 1: want to go somewhere else. You can be a patriot
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: and still want the convenience of having a separate passport
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: that allows you to travel easily.
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: Through other countries and around the world.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: An American passport, for example, today, is not a particularly
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 1: good passport. A lot of countries around the world require
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: Americans to get visas, having you know, some of European
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: Union passports are much much allow for much easier movement
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: around the world without visas, And a lot of the
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: reason countries put visas on Americans is because America puts
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 1: visas on them, so they reciprocate. So yes, I think
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: getting a second or third or fourth passport is all
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: good and should be encouraged, even if you're a patriot Enrick.
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 1: Rather than left and right coalescing on environmentalism, they look
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: to be coming together on anti semitism. Shall we soon
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: find from both parties anti Semitic leaders and president? You know,
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: I still think that anti Semitism as a phenomena is
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: that the fringes and the margins. It's millions of people,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: but it's not it's not the mainstream, and we'll see
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: if it gets mainstreams. Whereas I do think I envymelism
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 1: is mainstreamed. And we saw that when.
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: Maga freaked out over the idea that.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 1: One of the senators had to privatize federal land in
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: the West and use it for development, particularly for housing,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: and MAGA freaked out, as did the environmentalists, and they
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: showed that they're very environmentalist. And I think in environmentism
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: is still much more of a mainstream topic. We'll see
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: how all of this evolves. We'll see how all of
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: this evolves, and how big the anti Semitism becomes, and
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: how widespread it becomes, how mainstream it becomes. It's definitely
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 1: being mainstreamed into the Republican conservative movement in Tamaga. But
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: whether it grows beyond that, we'll see. Peter, Christian nations
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: in history, Fankish and Holy Roman Empire, Calvin's Geneva, Cromwell's England,
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: precisely what the founding fathers repudiated. Yes, they were rejected
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 1: all of those. All of those they rejected the and
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 1: they rejected and were really upset by the religious wars,
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 1: the thirty year ward one hundred year War, Protestants and
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: Catholics killing one another. You know, they suddenly rejected Calvin's
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: Geneva and the persecution of of people who had different
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: notions of Christianity. Absolutely, Peter Greek agree with you completely, Andrew.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: Love is stronger than hate if created by oneself by
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 1: rational means. Is they even such a thing as altruistic love,
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  Speaker 1: love through self sacrifice? No, I don't think there's such
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: a thing as altruistical love. I think to the extent
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  Speaker 1: that people love, to that extent, they are being self
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  Speaker 1: interested and people are compartmentalized and mixed, But to the
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: extent that they love, they're being self interested. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: We've got a few remaining and then I need to
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  Speaker 1: get to bed, and pokey, Why is the moral always
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: the practical? What is the link between the two? And
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: are their cases? You can think of? Whether this does
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  Speaker 1: not hold?
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean I think it holds.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: It holds in irrational society, and over the long run,
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: it doesn't hold in an irrational society. Necessarily, sometimes the
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 1: moral can can can can lead to death and destruction,
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 1: and in an irrational world dominated about irrationality. I mean,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: it's it's I'd have to give a long answer, and
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: I don't have the voice, but I'm losing my voice,
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: and I don't have the time for it, and I'm
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: and it's late, but I'll say this. I mean, where
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 1: does morality come from? How do we learn moral truths?
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: We learn moral.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 1: Truths by by two processes. Fundamentally, one is identifying the
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: nature i e. The practical nature of man?
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 2: What is man? How does man function in the world?
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 1: And that's how we get he's a rational being and
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: reason being, you know, a cardinal value, and you know
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 1: what makes it possible for man to live successfully in
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: the world, which is an empirical, inductive you know, evaluation.
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: So when it looks at the world and see rationality,
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: reason is man's means of survival. It just you know,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: you see that that's an inductive truth and reason both
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: logically requires, for example, honesty because reason requires fact fact facts,
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: but also when one observes in reality, honesty works and
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: dishonesty doesn't.
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: So the whole way in which the objective's morality is
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: derived is by looking at what works.
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: And here what we mean by what works is what
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: leads to human survival. So them all in a sense
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: is derived from the practical. It's derived from, you know,
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: looking at the world, observing reality and figuring out what
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: right and wrong is. What right is is that which
• 2:24:15
  Speaker 1: leads the human flourishing. What's wrong is that which destroys it.
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's built.
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: In the mall is the practical.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: The practical is the mall is built into objectivism.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: So the irrational.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: We can observe is impractical, and part of the reason
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: it's evil is. I mean, it's evil because it's impractical,
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 1: because it leads to bad outcomes for you as an individual.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: So it's it's circular in essence impoquy. Should a defending
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 1: nation ever take any precautions to avoid civilian casualties in
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 1: a case where the cost is minimal?
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: Why or why not?
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's no reason to gratuitously kill people.
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: Human life has value, so there's no reason to gratuously
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: do it. So if there's no purpose in killing people,
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: then you shouldn't kill them, and to that extent, your
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 1: void civilian casualties when the civilian casualties are not necessary
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 1: for victory. But in any situation where civilian casualties are
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: necessary for victory, unnecessary to a victory, and at a
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: minimal cost to yourself and a minimum cost of your
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: own people's lives.
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 2: Then you should not take precautions.
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: So the standard is the extent to which it's going
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  Speaker 1: to demand a sacrifice of your people or not it's
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 1: going to demand a sacrifice of you or not it's
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 1: going to prevent you from achieving your goal on it,
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 1: that's the stand about what you measure. Tyler says, how
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 1: you on I really enjoyed Peacock's History of Philosophy lectures. Yeah,
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: they're great. I noticed the con section was missing from
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 1: the book version. Any idea why it was left out?
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: Just curious? Was kant left out?
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: I think because Leonard asked that the book version only
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: include part one, the pre Kantient I think he I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, you'd have to. I think if I recall,
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 1: and granted, I might recall wrong, but I think if
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 1: I recall, he said that he was a lot more
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 1: confident in the course of the truth of the pre content,
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: and that he was in his confident that everything he
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 1: said was accurate regarding the more modern philosophers.
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  Speaker 2: I think the whole thing is fantastic. But that is
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: if I recall, that is what he said.
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: So that's why he only wanted it in writing the
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 1: pre Kantian segments part one. But luckily you can still
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 1: get in an audio and Pokey, what's your take on IP?
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: Intellectual property and free state? If it's a natural right,
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: why does it expire? Wouldn't permanent IP paralyzed innovation since
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: all progress builds and prior ideas. Yes, that's why it expires,
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: So it should expire. But they should be a period.
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: It's a former property and the property owner should have
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: the ability to profit from his property for a period.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: Iinman has a very good essay on this and capitalism
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: and annoying ideal. I encourage you to read it. She
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 1: goes into great lengths in defending her position about why
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: copyright IP generally is valid and why you know, the
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 1: length of time shouldn't be forever, you know, and why
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: having a specific length of time is not arbitrary. It's about.
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 2: It's about the the lifetime of the of the producer.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: It's also about the ability to profit from that property
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 1: before it becomes uh goes into the public domain and
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: goes to aid in the process of ideas building on ideas.
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: But read the essay much better explanation there. And what
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: do you think of the criticism of the objective's morality
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 1: that it's focused on independent judgment and consistency demand too
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: much of people. I mean, I don't feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: too much. I mean I don't know. I know a
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: lot of people who embrace it and do it and
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: are fine with it, So I'm not sure. I've never
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: seen that criticism. It requires work, it requires being independent,
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: It requires having self esteem, it requires not caving to
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: the mob.
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: That all requires effort, but it's doable for every human being.
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: I know people of all kinds of intellectual abilities that
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: have embraced that idea. And even before objectivism, there were
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: people who embraced independent judgment and stood up to the mob.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: So I don't understand why that is something that's beyond
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 1: people's reach. Necessarily, it is beyond people's reach because they
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: choose not to embrace it. Evan, what do you think
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: about altruism and a group of infantry in battle? A
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: unit is much more effective if everyone has each other's
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: back to the point where they were willing to sacrifice
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: and risk for each other.
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 2: So I think that I think that altruism is destructive
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 2: for a unit like that.
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: I think a unit in battle functions much much better
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: if they all understand why it's.
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: In their self interest to function as a unit. It's
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: just like a team.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: Like a teamwork in a business doesn't require you to
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 1: accept the collective mind collective consciousness because there is none.
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: It requires you to be an independent thinker and contribute
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: to the team and work with others to improve and
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: enhance ideas. The same thing is to in battle. You
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 1: want independent thinkers who understand why they're they, who understand
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: why the unit has to function together, and who have
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: a real authentic camaraderie friendship with the other people around them.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't think that a good unit.
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 1: In battle requires people to sacrifice to one another. So,
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: for example, you're storming a position and the guy on
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 1: your right gets hit. What do you do do You
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 1: continue storming the position and you go take care of
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: the guy who's been hit. Well, victory demands that you
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: continue storming the position, and afterwards you go take care
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 1: of your buddy who got hit. But if your focus
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 1: is completely on your body, then you stop the advance
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: and you take care of the wounded, and you forget
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 1: about winning the war. So it's not at all clear
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: to me that sacrifice in that sense is required. Risk
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: taking is required. But you signed up for the military.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: This is why military should be voluntary. You sign up
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 1: for the military. You signed up to take risk, not
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 1: to sacrifice, but to take risk for the values that
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: you believe in and for the people in your team.
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: I don't consider that sacrifice. And again, you have to
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 2: think about what do you want.
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 1: This team to do what is required to win a battle,
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 1: to win a war, to win to win a to
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: win a skirmish. And and what's required is everybody thinking,
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 1: everybody being an independent thinker, but within the context of
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 1: a team, within the context of a group that is
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: trying to achieve a goal together. And and and that
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: means sometimes you have to just follow orders. That means
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: that you're going to take risks. That means that you
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: have to watch what your other soldiers are doing. And
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 1: and and yes, cover for them, cover them, because that's
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 1: part of the mission. And that's part of how you
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: attain the goal. But it's not it's not a sacrifice.
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 1: You're you're you're aiming towards a goal that's very, very
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: very important to you. This is why you volunteered to
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 1: serve in this military. Again, why I believe in one
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 1: of the reasons I believe in voluntary military servant non
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: a conscription. Chris, what did Einran think of Norman Rockwell,
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: what do you think of Rockwall? Why was normal rockwall
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: art so disliked? Is his artwork idealistic or overly sentimental?
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: So I think she thought of I mean, I don't
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: know exactly what she thought of Rockwell, I vaguely recalled it.
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: There's something there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, look, rockwall is an illustrator. He's a he's
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 1: not a painter. He's a borderline artist because his stuff
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 1: is postery. It's it's illustrations. It's very in your face
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: and in that sense, yeah, it's it's sentimental. But there's
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of good art that's sentimental. Rockwall Is is
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: a good illustrator, but he's not a great artist. I
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 1: don't know why it was disliked. It wasn't disliked. It
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 1: was actually liked a lot. It made the covers of
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: magazines that was all over the place. And remember it
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: was covers of magazines. Most of his paintings will covers
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: of magazines, which again that's illustration.
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 2: That's not art. It's not fine art.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: Uh, there's no The themes are very obvious, there's no sophistication,
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: there's you know, it's it's it's it's in your face
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 1: in a way that art should not be.
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  Speaker 2: So I I think normal.
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed normal Walkwell. I think a lot of his
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: stuff is fun. Uh, it's funny, it's fun. Some of
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 1: his idealistic and and and good like I love. The
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: one where the guy is standing up. The free speech
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: one is very good. Rockwell generally was kind of a
• 2:34:36
  Speaker 1: New Deal democrat, so he was he was, you know,
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: he illustrated much of Roosevelt's New Deal ideals. He's a naturalist.
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 1: He portrays, for the most body, portrays man as he is.
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 1: He portrays scenes out of daily life. Again, part of
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: what makes him not that interesting but kind of fun
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 1: and enjoyable. I wouldn't hang a normal walker painting on
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 1: my wall, but I don't mind, you know. I enjoy
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 1: seeing his stuff and thumbing through a book of his
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: work and smiling and enjoying it. But it's a superficial enjoyment. Schasberg.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: To love is the value at the shrugged a certain
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: person's speech, not to be mentioned because we don't want
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 1: to give anything away. Yes, to love is to value.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: Love is there is an expression of one's highest value.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's a manifestation one's highest value. All right, last question,
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 1: as I'm losing my voice. I understand Rand's idea of
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: self interest, but why can't a gang be self interested
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 1: within their world? Their interest is making money and exploiting. Well,
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: because a gang cannot be happy a gang cannot flourish
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: qua gang. It can only you know, so a group
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: can only flourish the extent it's individuals flourish at the
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 1: base of a gang. At the base of a gang
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: of a group as individuals, and if they if they
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 1: succeed by exploiting and stealing and cheating and robbing, they succeed.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 2: Materially.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: But all of that behavior is destructive spiritually. It destroys
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 1: their soul, It destroys their integrity, it destroys the ability
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: to be moral as individuals. And again, happiness and flourishing
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 1: can only be achieved as individuals. So a gang is
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 1: not a thing. A gang is just a bunch of
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 1: individuals committing crimes together. And because they're committing crimes, because
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 1: they're violating rational principles as individuals, they cannot flourish and
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: they cannot be happy, and they suffer the consequences. Live
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 1: by the sword, Die by the sword. All right, Thank
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 1: you guys, Sorry for the technical problem in the middle.
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 1: I'm glad we recovered. I'm glad you all stuck with it.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Thanks Troy for the five
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: Australian really really appreciate that. Thanks to all other Michael
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: and all the other supporters. We had a lot of
• 2:37:21
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• 2:37:24
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  Speaker 2: I will see you. I'm not sure when we'll.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 1: Play it day by day, but at the latest on Saturday.
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to be traveling all this week in Europe.
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: Hopefully i'll see some of you tomorrow in Vienna. Bye everybody,