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The Cornell 7, Nicki Minaj's Fox Interview, and Who's Hiding What in Their Camera Roll · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 2: Hey, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Two Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so much
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  Speaker 1: at 2PersonalShow. So it's been a crazy week of news
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  Speaker 1: because it's 2026. And when has there not been a
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  Speaker 1: crazy week of news? Did you see the full moon?
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  Speaker 1: She was so pretty.
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  Speaker 4: I did.
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  Speaker 1: It was very, a very beautiful sunset in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, right? No, the night of the fall equinox.
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  Speaker 1: I was seeing everybody get their pics off.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, is that what it was?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What is fall equinox? I just thought the moon was
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  Speaker 3: a full moon.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it looks nice. It's the start
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  Speaker 1: of autumn. Like we are now, we're now in autumn.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why she was so bright and shiny. But
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  Speaker 1: we have a new week of fresh hell to discuss
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  Speaker 1: as well. And a new would you rather as well.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people picked prison last week.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all are brave.
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  Speaker 1: Ready to go to jail. There are enough of us
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  Speaker 1: in jail. Well, not enough of us in jail, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Some of us need to go to jail. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: into our first story of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to talk to you about the Cornell 7.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: This is a very, for the record, this is a
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  Speaker 3: very ongoing topic.
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  Speaker 1: Very ongoing story and a very triggering story if you
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  Speaker 1: are someone who likes a trigger warning story. That was
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  Speaker 1: the trigger warning.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So I'll briefly kind of explain for those of
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  Speaker 3: you who don't know. A former student is now suing
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  Speaker 3: the university, a fraternity and seven current or former fraternity members,
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  Speaker 3: alleging that in 2024 she was drugged and sexually assaulted
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  Speaker 3: at the Chi Phi fraternity house. There have been Snapchat
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  Speaker 3: group chats that have been visible to everyone. The police
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  Speaker 3: claim they received but never followed up on. she was
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  Speaker 3: given ketamine before she was basically gang raped, essentially is
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  Speaker 3: what it is, for lack of a better term. The
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  Speaker 3: university really didn't do much. Only two of the seven
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  Speaker 3: were expelled. The others were required to submit essays after
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  Speaker 3: the university had their own 12 hearings. Like I said,
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  Speaker 3: the police were presented the chap, but they didn't follow up.
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  Speaker 3: No criminal charges were brought at that time. Now, nearly
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  Speaker 3: two years later, the D.A., is now reopening the investigation,
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  Speaker 3: and it could now go before a grand jury. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's many, this is a very nuanced conversation.
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  Speaker 3: For starters, this is, again, very triggering, awful thing to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But the school is what's.
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  Speaker 1: Really getting me.
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  Speaker 3: Because as a college student, leaving home, you're young, you're
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  Speaker 3: on your own, most of us for the very first time,
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  Speaker 3: you would think that that is a safe place. should
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  Speaker 3: be a safe haven if something goes wrong. You should
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  Speaker 3: be able to rely on faculty, administration for help and support.
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  Speaker 3: And that is not what happened here at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people failed this young woman. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I want to start the conversation by saying allegedly,
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  Speaker 1: because obviously this is a lawsuit and the authorities and
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  Speaker 1: the school did an investigation. There was consequences. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a little strange to say allegedly, because clearly through the investigation,
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  Speaker 1: they felt like there's the school felt there should be
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  Speaker 1: some consequences. So obviously they found something happened. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't really want to get too much into the weeds
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  Speaker 1: of the details of the story, because honestly, unfortunately, this
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  Speaker 1: isn't a very unique story. It's a quite common story actually.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, It goes all the way back to my
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  Speaker 1: college days, which were over 20 years ago when I
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  Speaker 1: was a freshman in college in 2004. It's now 2026.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're okay at math, you can figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: And prior to that, I was hearing stories about this
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  Speaker 1: type of behavior on campuses. And if we want to
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  Speaker 1: widen the scope of it, this type of behavior is.
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  Speaker 1: Common everywhere and really reading the story the I felt
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  Speaker 1: like a couple different things and I want to sort
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  Speaker 1: of organize the conversation a bit because the first thing
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  Speaker 1: that I always think of when I see a story
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  Speaker 1: like this is wow that's still happening and then I'm
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  Speaker 1: not surprised that it's still happening because look how the
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  Speaker 1: university handles it there's no real consequences the institution's to
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  Speaker 1: protecting the accused over the accuser. And the media, for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, the authorities and the public default to
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  Speaker 1: saying that she shouldn't have been in that situation. And
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  Speaker 1: so it never surprises me that these things continue to
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  Speaker 1: happen because there's no real ramifications for people that do this.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that fraternities, sororities are treated and protected
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  Speaker 3: in a different way by universities?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that men are treated and protected in
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  Speaker 1: a different way than by institutions. I haven't heard a
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  Speaker 1: story in my entire life of a group of women
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  Speaker 1: drugging and gang raping a man.
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  Speaker 3: Very true. This is very sad.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the other part of it is there's this instant
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  Speaker 1: reaction of victim blaming that happens when these stories come out.
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  Speaker 1: Why was she drinking? Why was she doing drugs? Why
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  Speaker 1: was she out so late? Why was she hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with a bunch of boys? In my opinion, and this
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  Speaker 1: is a controversial opinion, it is Always 100% the rapist's fault.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: To me, that's very logical, simple thinking.
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  Speaker 1: You would think that. But if there is a but
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  Speaker 1: after that statement, then it's not. Because people will get
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  Speaker 1: into what she was wearing. Why was she out late?
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  Speaker 1: Why was she hanging out with a bunch of boys?
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  Speaker 1: Why was she drinking? Why was she doing drugs? you
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  Speaker 1: have to be more careful. You have to protect yourself.
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  Speaker 1: It's always the, the burden of avoiding these situations is
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  Speaker 1: always on the victim and not on the perpetrator. It
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  Speaker 1: is an intentional act to rape someone. It is an
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  Speaker 1: intentional act to assault someone is an intentional act to
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  Speaker 1: abuse someone. It's not an intentional act to walk home.
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  Speaker 1: It's not an intentional act to wear a dress. It's
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  Speaker 1: not an intentional act to wear lipstick. It's not an
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  Speaker 1: intentional act to drink a glass of alcohol. It's the
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  Speaker 1: fault of the perpetrator. When someone gets robbed, you don't
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  Speaker 1: blame the person who was robbed. You blame the thief.
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  Speaker 1: But for some reason, when it comes to sexual assault
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  Speaker 1: and sexual abuse and rape, the victim is treated like
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  Speaker 1: the criminal. They're the ones who are assumed to be lying.
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  Speaker 1: They're the ones who are put through the ringer about who, what, when, where, why. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big one. And the person who is accused,
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  Speaker 1: and in this case, let's just call them men, are
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  Speaker 1: assumed not only to be innocent, but are assumed to
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  Speaker 1: be victims, are assumed to be being lied on and
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  Speaker 1: their reputations and futures being attacked by a woman who
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  Speaker 1: is not telling the truth. Now, I know men who
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  Speaker 1: have been falsely accused. I know what that does to
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  Speaker 1: a person. And Personally, I feel like if it is
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  Speaker 1: proven that you lied about being sexually assaulted, abused, raped, harassed,
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  Speaker 1: you should... go to jail.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they need consequences 100%.
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  Speaker 1: It shouldn't just be, oh, well, thank God he's not
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  Speaker 1: in jail or let's get him out of jail or
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  Speaker 1: let's clear up his reputation. No, no, no. If you
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  Speaker 1: are a woman who is making something up, who is
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  Speaker 1: lying about what happened to you, to get vengeance or
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  Speaker 1: to get money you should be held accountable at the
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  Speaker 1: highest level i agree now that does not include pulling
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  Speaker 1: back your statements because going through the process of trying
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  Speaker 1: to get justice for sexual assault for let's let's just
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  Speaker 1: call it essay like i don't have to keep repeating
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  Speaker 1: the whole the whole thing let's just call it essay
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  Speaker 1: Going through the process of that is so exhausting and
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  Speaker 1: dehumanizing that many people, A, do never report it. B,
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  Speaker 1: start to report it, get treated like criminals, and are like,
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  Speaker 1: fuck it, it's not worth it. Go through the process,
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  Speaker 1: get put through the wringer, commit suicide, or fall into
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  Speaker 1: drugs and all kinds of other negative actions because they're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with extreme trauma and PTSD. If they do make
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  Speaker 1: it all the way to the end, then they then
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  Speaker 1: have gone through probably years. I mean, this happened years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Years and years and years of having to constantly relive
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  Speaker 1: this trauma. And the third thing that always sticks out
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  Speaker 1: to me when these stories comes up is how much
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have these conversations. Because every time...
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  Speaker 1: Every time I try to have a conversation about this,
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  Speaker 1: the whataboutism is instant from men. Instantaneous. I can't finish
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  Speaker 1: a sentence before a man is talking about how he
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  Speaker 1: knows somebody who was falsely accused. So do I. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know who I know a lot more of, like
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  Speaker 1: infinitely more of? Women who have been sexually assaulted.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I know a woman who hasn't
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  Speaker 1: experienced this. That like one in three, one in five statistic.
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  Speaker 1: Every single woman I know is at best been harassed.
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  Speaker 1: At the very best. Slightly stalked. Something to that degree.
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  Speaker 1: All the way up to violent gang rape. I've seen
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  Speaker 1: and experienced the entire spectrum in my lifetime with women
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  Speaker 1: and with myself. And I just, I can't bear the conversation.
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  Speaker 3: I also think it's very interesting that I don't hear
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  Speaker 3: a lot of men talking about those that were involved
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  Speaker 3: in this group chat that may have not acted, but
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  Speaker 3: stayed silent. There were 57 people, 57 men.
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  Speaker 1: We have to call them what they are. There were
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  Speaker 1: 57 men in this group chat who knew that this
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  Speaker 1: girl was upstairs and that she was being assaulted. And
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  Speaker 1: they did absolutely nothing.
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  Speaker 3: That's another huge issue.
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  Speaker 1: Well, to me, that is the core and the crux
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  Speaker 1: of the issue. Because when I talk about this, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to men who I am assuming are not
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  Speaker 1: assaulting women. But the default is, well, I have never
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  Speaker 1: assaulted a woman, but I know a man also who
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  Speaker 1: didn't assault a woman who was falsely accused. And then therefore,
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  Speaker 1: every woman that says this must be lying. But we
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  Speaker 1: know that all these women are not lying. Yet somehow,
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  Speaker 1: no man knows another man who has done this. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Somebody is doing this. And we know that you are
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  Speaker 1: much more likely to be attacked by someone that you
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  Speaker 1: know than a stranger walking down the street. And when
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  Speaker 1: we talk about these kind of assaults, there's always this
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  Speaker 1: idea with men that it's like, oh, it's someone in
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  Speaker 1: a dark alley. No, this was this girl's friend. This
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  Speaker 1: was on her campus. This was in a frat house.
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  Speaker 1: This was announced to 57 people. There were so many
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  Speaker 1: opportunities for humans, people that have families and are in
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  Speaker 1: other groups. Some people are athletes. They're at a prestigious university.
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  Speaker 1: This is not some guy in a dark cloak hiding
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  Speaker 1: in an alley. And I think the fact that no
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  Speaker 1: one helped and no one said anything and all of
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  Speaker 1: these people who are not helping, who are not saying
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  Speaker 1: anything are men. is the struggle that I have with
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  Speaker 1: this continuous, ad nauseum conversation about women, where they stand
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  Speaker 1: in society, and how they are not protected. This whole
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  Speaker 1: pitch that men are protectors. They're not. They're predators. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that as a whole. All men are
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  Speaker 1: not predators. But most men are not protectors. Because if
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  Speaker 1: they were, this wouldn't have happened. Yes, there were men
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  Speaker 1: who didn't assault her who were in that building. But
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  Speaker 1: they knew the assault was happening and did not stop it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and absolutely could have.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: There was more men not assaulting her.
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  Speaker 1: Many dozens.
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  Speaker 3: That knew she was being assaulted.
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  Speaker 1: But they knew she was being assaulted and did nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what scares me about even having this
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  Speaker 1: conversation because it feels so hopeless. We are raising young
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  Speaker 1: men to have no respect for women.
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  Speaker 2: None.
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  Speaker 1: They don't think of them as human beings. None of
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  Speaker 1: these men thought enough of her as a human person.
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  Speaker 1: They probably would be more likely to save a dog.
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  Speaker 1: If their frat brothers were upstairs assaulting a dog, they'd
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  Speaker 1: be more likely to go upstairs and stop that assault
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  Speaker 1: than a human woman. We're raising young boys not to
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  Speaker 1: respect women. We've elected a man who's been accused of
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  Speaker 1: sexual assault and has had to pay millions to a
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  Speaker 1: woman for raping her. Said he grabs women by the pussy.
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  Speaker 1: We put him in office twice. We have an entire
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  Speaker 1: Epstein list of disgusting, morbid, unthinkable, pedophilic, child rape, not
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  Speaker 1: even accusations, facts.
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  Speaker 2: No one.
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  Speaker 1: One person is in jail, the woman, which she should be.
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  Speaker 1: She should be strung up in the town square. But
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  Speaker 1: the only person in prison is a woman. We have
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  Speaker 1: had these issues with campus sexual assault for as long
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  Speaker 1: as I have been alive. You have insane numbers from
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  Speaker 1: the Congo, 2 million women and children since the genocide
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  Speaker 1: has started, have been raped. They're feeding women the genitalia
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  Speaker 1: of their husbands and raping them in front of their children.
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  Speaker 1: They're feeding them dead bodies. Read anything about what's going
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  Speaker 1: on in Gaza with the prisoners there. It is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: There's this epidemic of sexual violence, which I know is
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  Speaker 1: not new.
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  Speaker 2: I'm aware.
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  Speaker 1: What is terrifying to me is it's not stopping. There's
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  Speaker 1: no decline. If anything, they're getting more creative. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many different ways throughout my life I've
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  Speaker 1: had this plea with men that it's like, it's not
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  Speaker 1: up to us. You can't say a woman can't dress
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  Speaker 1: a certain way. Explain pedophiles that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: This 12-year-old girl is not asking for sex. She's in
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  Speaker 1: fact not doing that. She's existing. And she's still assaulted.
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  Speaker 1: A 90-year-old woman?
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  Speaker 2: A dead body?
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  Speaker 1: Like, for every example of you saying a woman is
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  Speaker 1: asking to be raped, I can give you... Millions of
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  Speaker 1: examples of women and children and elderly women just existing
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  Speaker 1: who are still being assaulted. It is not about that.
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  Speaker 1: It is 100%, 100% the fault of the perpetrator. It
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  Speaker 1: is not the fault of the victim. It is an
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  Speaker 1: active choice to assault, abuse, or rape someone.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, as a mom of a little boy, like in
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  Speaker 3: all my fellow moms of boys, we have to do better.
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  Speaker 3: And you need to raise your children to obviously not
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  Speaker 3: only assault, but speak up and do something about it
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  Speaker 3: if they see something happening.
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  Speaker 1: It's unthinkable to me. If I had a friend, a woman,
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  Speaker 1: who was accused of something, who was... fuck accused was
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  Speaker 1: telling me that she was raping someone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Why would I protect her? Why would I not say anything?
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  Speaker 1: It is unthinkable. It's unthinkable to me. Fuck the assumption.
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  Speaker 1: Fuck a random accusation. You're in the group chat telling
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  Speaker 1: me that this is what you're doing with your evening.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just not doing shit. And I'm in the
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  Speaker 1: group chat because now everyone is of course calling for
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  Speaker 1: everyone's name. It was in the group chat who didn't
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  Speaker 1: do anything. And I want to say something to women too,
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  Speaker 1: because this is important. None of these institutions, none of these. mentalities,
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  Speaker 1: none of these continuous problems exist without women doing their
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  Speaker 1: part to uphold the patriarchy by being male centered and
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  Speaker 1: by continuing to perpetrate the excuses that exist for people
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: behaving this way and young people behaving this way. To
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: your point, boy moms the way that you speak to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: your son the way that you hold them accountable for
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: how they talk about women who their friends are how
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: they value human beings like that is the parents responsibility
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: agreed 100 are there just pure psychopaths that are born
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: bad and just yes of course But these are young
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: men who got into a very prestigious university who had futures, right?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: They did enough work to get a part of an organization.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Like I said, there were athletes. There were all kinds
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: of different people from all kinds of different walks of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: life in this organization. These are not people scavenging in
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the woods. Like these are people that none of, like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: if you even just look at their pictures, they just
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: look like kids who are just in college because that's
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: what they are.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And got to experience college and finish it, and she couldn't.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the details of the whole thing are
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: obviously awful. And I've been diving in for the past
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: couple days. And it also got me thinking about my
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: college days. And my freshman year, I went to a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: college where we did some drinking. And I didn't actually
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: drink my first semester of college. So I didn't drink
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: until I was 18. And there were always stories and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: there were always, you know, I lived in an all
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: girls dorm. So there would be girls that come back
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: drunk and they'd come back upset. And I had multiple
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: instances with friends. I had a girlfriend come back once
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and she had gone to a man's dorm room and
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: he said something and she didn't like what he said.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And they got into an argument and he hit her.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and i got his number and i called him and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: i told him if he liked breathing he better not
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: ever come near her again and if i find out
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: he hits hit another girl i'm gonna call the homies
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: from the burg and they're gonna pull up and i
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and i knew a man who knew him and i
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: told him i said let him know i don't play
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that shit yeah no what do you mean you hit
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: her are you fucking crazy I can think of so
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: many times we had a rule with drinking where if
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: we went out, we only went out with like our group.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Like there was no meeting a new person and going
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: out with them. There was no like going to, if
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: we went to a frat party, if we went to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the hockey house, if we went to the football house,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like it was a buddy system. And if somebody got
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a little too drunk, the night's over. We're not pushing through.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: We're not leaving her here because we don't want to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: deal with her. That's it. We'll live to fight another day, right?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Like this is how it's happened. She got too drunk.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: All right. It's too early. Oh, well, we're going to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: either bring her back to the dorm and go back
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: out and make sure that she's safe and she's at home.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: But you're never leaving anyone. Mm-mm. Like, no woman left behind.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: That's not available. Now, did we have to do that?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Should we have had to do that?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: No, but I'm glad you did.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: People would argue yes. Like, people would say, like, you
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: need to take precautions. There's bad people in the world.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: We know that. The problem is there's so many opportunities
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: for this to happen. This has been happening. I went
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to college 22 years ago. And we had these stories.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And we were worried about these things. And we had
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: precautions in our conversations. Don't go to this person's house.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: They're weird. I heard this about this guy. You don't
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: want to go drinking with them. Don't go to this frat.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Don't go to this house. You have to be careful,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of course. But all of the responsibility was on us.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I was there. I did the same thing.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Right. And nothing has changed. It is still happening. The
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: institutions are still protecting. And the conversation is the same.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: You don't want to ruin a young man's life over
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: an accusation. It's never, let's take care of this woman
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: whose life is ruined. You are never the same after
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: being assaulted. You are never the same. It is a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: murder of a soul. to be raped or abused. And
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: if you haven't experienced that, God bless, but enough people
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: have said that, that it should at some point resonate.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I just find the conversation to be so disheartening because
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I have defaulted to I will never publicly speak about
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: my abuse. One, because I don't feel like I owe
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it to anyone. But two, what the fuck I'm going
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: through that shit for? What am I doing? What am
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I giving everybody except for trauma porn? Because people don't care.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how many stories. How many women? How
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: many frats? How many years? How many decades this has
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: been going on?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just hit the dam. I've seen that. That's crazy.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It's like... Have you ever seen the movie Promising Young Woman?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Mm-mm.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: It's... It's a fascinating film. And it's like a.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: 2025? Yeah.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's an amazing movie. And it is essentially about
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: this topic. And it's a good perspective on just how
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: many ripples of effect that this type of behavior has
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: on so many people. And I'm interested to see what
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: happens from the rest of this story.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: And... Definitely be following it. I.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: You know, we've seen... in the past where nothing has happened.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: We've seen situations where it's turned into international news. There's
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: all different variations of it. And again, I know men
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: who have been falsely accused. I am in no way
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: diminishing the horror of having your life ripped apart by
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: someone who, I mean, Emmett's heel was falsely accused. not
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: even of assault, just of whistling at a woman, which
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: at that time was considered assault if you were a
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: black boy, which he was, and a white woman. There
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: are endless instances of black men being lynched from women
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: accusing them of assaulting them during Jim Crow. Of course,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It is very serious. Equally as serious is the epidemic
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of sexual violence. And I have, you know, used international examples,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: but let's just keep it in the United States because
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: we only want to get into like India and some
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of the just horrific institutional oppressive places where women are unsafe, women,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: children and elderly and dead women are unsafe. Let's just
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: keep it to like where we are. If we can
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: never acknowledge the massive amounts of abusers and predators that
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: are walking amongst us, we are never going to fix it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: And make no mistake about it. Your young boys are
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: not safe either. And I'm not just talking about the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: young women teachers that get caught up in this.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: All those Catholic priests that were sexually assaulting boys.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, your neighbor. There is so much. There is
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: an unspeakable amount of child porn that is being circulated
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: on the Internet today. AI child porn. Real child porn. Child...
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: The sex trafficking... The amount of children, babies that are
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: sex trafficked. They are literally sex trafficking children, getting them pregnant,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and then sex trafficking the babies that they make. I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: am not making... This isn't some conspiracy theory. It's one
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: of the biggest industries in the world. Who do you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: think is doing that?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: That makes me sick to my stomach.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: It's maddening. And I'm like, I know... If you know
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: me personally... you know I'm in the vortex. I am
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: stuck in it. Everything that happens in the world deeply
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: affects me. And believe me, I don't want another bad
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: thing to happen to me to push me into the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: full villain. But I'd much prefer to not give a
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: fuck about anybody or anything. Seems like a much better life.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You guys are thriving, okay? I'm very jealous. I'm jealous
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: of dummies and I'm jealous of you fuckers that don't
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: give a fuck about anything. Fuck everybody else's problems. I'm
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: only concerned about myself. I would love to be that way.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And most of you probably think I am that way.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: But I'm not. I'm deeply affected by human suffering. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I very much wish that I wasn't. Because I don't
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: feel like I can do anything about it. And I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: don't feel like any of my pleas are ever heard.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: So like, examining this story, I just hope that people
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: think about the gravity of how often this happens. It
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: is not a conspiracy. It's not, again, some guy in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: a black cloak in a rainy corner of the alley.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: It's your sons. It's your daughters. At their school. At
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: their friend's house. At their sleepover.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Sidebar. I will never... There's no sleepover.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: No, sleep... I used to get so mad at my
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: parents about the sleepover thing. Now I'm like, I can't
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: believe they ever let me have a sleepover.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I'll happily host them. If camera's everywhere, it's fine. But
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: you're not... No, no, no. My house is the house.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: To be at.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: It's the house.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's... Oh, it's exhausting.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Did you see Nicki Minaj's interview? She spoke with Fox,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Laura Trump at that. She said it was, they talked
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: about a lot of things, but essentially they, you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: got to the nitty gritty and her support for Mr.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Trump.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: And she had some words for the Democrats.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: She has been. Lately, yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She says the Democrats have gotten too caught up
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: in pop culture and allowed their relationships with artists to
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: cause them to act like children and be petty, which
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I thought was very interesting. She says they allow people
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: in the music industry to influence them. Yeah, I was
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: a little confused by that one. She also felt like
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: black people have always felt they should just vote blue,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: and that's just not the truth. She's pledging to donate
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to Trump accounts. She feels, you know, children need financial
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: literacy and an opportunity to get ahead that many of
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: us didn't have. So I thought this was very interesting.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: She's a very, she tends to be controversial, but her
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: comments about pop culture and relationship with artists as you
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: are an artist who have tried to convince a certain side.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: You're literally a music artist on the news talking about
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: politics and trying to convince people to vote a certain way.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: You feel me? Are you good?
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I'm very confused.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Are you good? Blink twice if you're in Milwaukee. She...
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Somebody said that she looked like she threw her wig
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: up and ran under. Wait. That's a great explanation. that
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: wig in the pissed me off she was fuck ass
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: wig here's the thing Nikki is she's been purchased so
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: that's the end of that like she's never coming back
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and she's very unserious and she has to say what
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: they tell her to say and that's it that's the
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: end of that so there's there's no mystery about what's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: going on there there's no like It's very simple. She
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: belongs to them now, and she has to say what
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: they tell her to say. Because as you were reading it...
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: They're setting her up like a motherfucker. Oh, no. There
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: is no setup. It's already cooked.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: What they're having her say.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You are... First of all, you're saying something that doesn't
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: make any sense.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: You are a literal pop culture icon, musical artist, telling people,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: literally telling people which way to vote. Not telling people
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: register to vote, do some research, look into who's on
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the ballot. Just saying vote red. And you're saying that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the Democrats are doing that. You're literally doing that for
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the Republicans. Yep. So... You're just wasting everyone's time here.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And who is this for?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know, her army?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what, yeah.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's done.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But I do think that, I do think the one thing,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: even though it makes no sense because she is an
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: artist literally talking about politics, the one thing that I
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: do hope that happens throughout the next two years, midterms
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and into the presidential election, is that We do get
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: away from pop culture. We do get away from your
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: favorite music artists. We do get away from actors and actresses.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: We do get away from influencers. We are living really
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: potentially in the end times. I hate when you say that. Well,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I don't tend to think that the world is ending,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: but everyone that I know in tech... is like, it's over. Like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: we've got a couple years left before AI kills all
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: of us. Kills. We're dead.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: That freaks me out.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: And we continue to make it. We have already integrated
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: it into all of our systems. I don't even know
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: if it can be reversed. And, I mean, there's nothing
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: really we can do about it. We have to continue living.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: We can't just descend into anarchy. But if there is
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: going to be any hope that we're going to correct
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: it and save our species, we do have to get
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: more serious about politics. Politics has become an everyday conversation
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: for all of us. It didn't used to be. It
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: truly did not. We did not used to have to
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: talk about the president every single fucking day. For young
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: people who think that this is normal, it's not normal.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: We used to live lives and talk about the president
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: when something happened. Not something he did. Something happened. It
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: was not every fucking day. And it didn't need to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: be talked about at dinner tables. You did not talk
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to the person that you were dating about it, not
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: because you weren't interested in them. It's because it truly
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: did not matter. It always mattered, but it wasn't so
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: pervasive and it wasn't so off the fucking rails and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it wasn't so blatantly associated with racism and sexism and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: abuse and corruption that you couldn't even take someone seriously
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: if they aligned with certain people. Now it's a fucking
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: free for all. So if there's any hope that we
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: are going to get back on track, somebody has to
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: be the adults. Yes, you can be likable. Yes, you
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: can have a favorite sports team. OK, but no, you
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: cannot pop up on a stage in some glittery boots
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and Okay, giving awards away. No, you cannot be twerking
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: at a fucking events. No, you cannot fucking be twerking
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Jake and Logan with that fuck-ass hair at the Pentagon. Like,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: we have to be serious. We need to listen to educated,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: qualified people. Listen. Read. Ask questions. Follow up. The midterm
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: elections are essentially in a month. It's going to be
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: one of the most important elections in our lifetime.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It is a very... complicated election. It's not going to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: be easy to fill out a ballot. You're going to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: have to spend a couple hours doing it. And you're
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: going to have to do it. You have to vote.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: You have to register to vote. You have to turn
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: in a ballot. You've got to spend some time on
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that ballot. This is the reality of where we are. Otherwise,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and I don't mean to sound hyperbolic here, we're all
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: going to die.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I'm scared.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You should be scared. I have always voted. I don't
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: know if it's just because I came from a military family.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because I have always just
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: felt an obligation to participate in what this country offers
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to us. And I've had a respect for the fact
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that I have a right to vote.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: And everyone doesn't have that. And I didn't used to
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: have that for a variety of different reasons based off
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of who I am as a demographic. So I don't
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: take it for granted. I do not believe that my
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: vote doesn't count. In fact, I know it doesn't count.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know it counts. And I do not
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: subscribe to the propaganda that everyone just can pass the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: buck to someone else to deal with, that politics don't
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: affect my life. that I don't really care about politics
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: or talk about politics. All that is cooked. There was
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: a time where you could do that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: It's over.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: They're literally trying to kill us.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I will definitely be doing my research.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, just take half the time you use scrolling
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: aimlessly on social media.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: And start now.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And read a couple articles. Just a few. There are
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: so many nonprofit organizations that break it down for you,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: explain the process, explain who you're voting for, explain how
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the branches of government work and why this matters and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: they're gonna start trotting more and more people out and
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be your favorite this and your favorite that
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and this person's telling you to register to vote fuck
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: all that Do it because you want to live. Do
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: it because you're tired of your taxpayer dollars going to
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: anything except for what the fuck it's supposed to go to.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Do it because your roads are fucked up and your
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: kids can't get qualified teachers and you can't afford fucking
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: gas and groceries are expensive or you can't eat the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: groceries because they're all recalled because these fuck-ass losers fired
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: everybody that makes sure that our food is edible. Do
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: it because they're selling all of our farms off to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: private companies so that we're never going to have control
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: of the fucking food supply in this country. Do it
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: because he started an unnecessary war that has already killed
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: innocent soldiers who did not need to die because we
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: never needed to be there in the first place. Do
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: it because he fucked the economy. Do it because you're
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: a fucking fan of his and you like sucking his asshole.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I don't care. But do it. It has to happen. Like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: enough already. So the only thing that I will agree
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: with her on, even though it excludes her from the conversation,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: which is just fascinating as a talking point, is stop
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: trotting pop culture out here as politicians or people that
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: are experts on politics and social issues. You can be
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: two things at once. You can be a pop culture
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: icon and be incredibly well-versed in history, in civics, in government,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in social, economic issues. You can be both of those things,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but there aren't a lot of them, and it sure
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the fuck ain't Nicki Minaj.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Specs.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, it just shows the desperation of the party.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think they understand that a lot of
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: the curtain has been drawn back, and, like, a lot
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: of people are seeing what the party has really been
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: up to. The problem is that, like, Honestly, I feel
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: like it's a last stand of ideology. And a lot
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: of people are deciding to side with it because they
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: just prefer not to see anybody that don't look like
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: them in a position that's higher than them. Obviously, there's
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: a lot of dynamics that go into it. You know
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying? Once you start, you get to the
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: side of El Saeed and the Angie Nixons and all
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: those people like that, like, there's a bigger conversation to
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: be had. I think, like, essentially, like, right now, like,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: we really understand that, like, Trump has done something to
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: this country that has put us in, like, a complete
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: utter shithole. And, like, essentially, like, the midterms are, it
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: could potentially be, like, the end of it all. I
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: kind of look at it more like a last stand
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: because it's, like, a battle of ideologies.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, like, Shit's fucked. We got to get
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: out there and vote, everybody.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Got to vote. Everybody.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Please read. Got to vote. Use your seventh grade, what
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: was it? Like seventh grade level.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Reading level? Yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: Everybody use that and, you know, let's.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Get out of here. Or just honestly ask questions and listen.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of questions I'm going to be asking.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's fine. When did asking questions become shameful?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: When did not knowing something become shameful?
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Social media.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It's weird as fuck to me. It's literally the opposite
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of intelligent. There is an infinite, an infinite universe of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: things I don't know. But there is a sliver of
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: shit I know a whole fucking lot about. But if
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I happen to at any point step outside of that space,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I am not going to tell somebody how to do
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: something I don't know how to fucking do. Right. I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: don't know shit about electrical work.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: The fuck?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Does that make me a dummy? No, it means I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: don't know anything about electrical work. So I'm gonna hire
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: an electrician. Otherwise I'll burn a fucking house down. I
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: don't know how to do this. I don't know shit
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: about plumbing.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So I hired a plumber.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know shit about being a mechanic. I don't
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: know shit about landscaping. I don't know shit about putting
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: cement down. Why is it when it comes to something
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that we physically cannot do, we have no problem asking
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: questions or hiring someone to do it? But when it
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: comes to something that has to do with ideology, to
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Speck's point, that has to do with taxes, the economy...
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: international issues and war, the international economy, the stock market,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: we're like... I just get overwhelmed.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: And then I'd be like, I don't want to talk
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, and for
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: some things, that's okay. But at certain points, you're not...
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: And you don't have to be an expert on it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You don't have to be an expert on the.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Like, you don't have to be an expert on these things.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: You just have to know how it affects your life
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and who is responsible for making that affect your life
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: and if they have any plans or are showing any
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: initiative to make it stop affecting your life. It does
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: affect your life. Like, AI is going to affect your life.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And it's not just making the fucking Migos video.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Which, by the way, listen, I know that.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: They're so funny.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: They're so funny.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I really don't like these trends because they're burning. I mean,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: at least if the world's going to burn down, some
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: of them can be funny. And they are so funny.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: Some of them are so good.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Someone made one of my younger brother. It's crazy how
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: much they look like them. Yeah.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: They're pretty spot on.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Computers be working.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: They do be working. They've come a long way. The
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: original AIs, I was like, wow, y'all are really terrible
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: at this. And now I'm like, I don't know. I
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: got a quadruple check to make sure it's not AI.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: All right. What is our personally what would you rather today?
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: You ready for this one?
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Would you rather have your search history or your camera
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: roll made public?
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Camera roll.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: What is in your search history?
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Camera roll. For sure. I haven't think twice about this.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Camera roll.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Next.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I could really do either.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Next.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: What are you searching? Camera roll.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: No, no question.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: No question. Specs, what are you choosing?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: You have to pick one.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I'm probably going camera roll.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: What's in your search history?
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just that like, I mean, I think
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: I got the easy way out because I'm just a guy.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: So I just got random pictures of like shoes and buildings.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I'm also just not.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: They should have specified like internet search history or chat
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: GPT history because I would love to see some people's
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: chat GPT history.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, chat GPT history would be exposing motherfuckers for sure.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: That's a lot of people's therapists.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I think you can include that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's both. That's both to me. Yeah, yeah,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, and listen, camera rolls not going to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: do many favors either.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: At all. It's every album, though. The hidden, the recently deleted.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I don't have, I don't really be deleting that much.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And I, I don't have any hidden albums.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: I have a few things in my hidden. I have to, though,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: because Aiden be.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: All over my camera roll. See, I stopped taking nudes
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: a long time ago. So I just haven't felt inspired
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: in a long time. You know, I used to have
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: the angles really good. And now I'm just like.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: It takes some work. It takes some work and energy.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I would take some production skills.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: It takes some production skills. And then it's like, I don't,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: it's just, you know, they just don't be moving me
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to send.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: You're not motivated to send anything.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's my problem. Maybe I need to get back
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: to starting sending pussy pics again. I mean, I haven't,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the thought hasn't even like crossed my mind. Like how
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I used to be on Twitter and it was, it
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: was like a default part of my day to like
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: share my thoughts on Twitter. And then Elon killed it
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and then it just went away. And now I'm on threads.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And so I've gotten back into the habit of sharing
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: thoughts on threads. Yeah. Like it would easily be a
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: pussy pic a day. And now I'm like, I just don't,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: it doesn't think, I don't think about it. I just
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: do not send nudes. I mean, mine's very rarely. And
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, like, in my brain, I know
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: every nude that I've sent and who I've sent it to.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: So if it ever got leaked.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: You know if it leaked.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: You would know the source.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I would know the source. I would know what my
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: body looked like at that time.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And, like, my hair changes a lot. So I could
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: match it with the hair.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: At the time.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: So there is, there's no, the criminal investigation would be
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: very short-lived. Yeah.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I send an occasional, like, if he's out of town, like,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: miss you, a little something. It's, like, just here and there. No,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: that's good. It's, like, cutesy, though.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I need to start doing that. I just don't.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: My favorite is on FaceTime, and I know, like, he's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: around people, but not too close, and I, like, make
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: him nervous, and I kind of, like, start loving him.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: He's like, hold on, hold on, babe.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Gets in the car.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Like, thinks I'm by. Like, wait, I'm not by myself.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you still have that, like, flirt in you.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not a good flirt anymore.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, let me be very clear. My friends who ask
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: me for advice when they're dating and like, what should
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I say? Do not ask me. Don't fucking know. I'm
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: like a grandma.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know how to slur anymore.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: I would not know. I would not know what to say.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to start talking about Gaza at some point.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Like I have completely lost my touch.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: If I had to date right now.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm an oversharer. Me too. Because I don't fucking
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: care anymore. Like if you don't like me, I don't,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I literally don't care. So I'm not pretending to be
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: anyone I'm not. I'm not going to hide stories. I'm
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: puking insanity on you. And if you can handle it, great.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: If not, we should know very early that it's not
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: going to work. But I'm not cutesy anymore. I need
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: to do that again.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Is that cutesy though?
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: It is cutesy. I just haven't sent my butthole to
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: anyone in a long time.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I'm sending my butthole even to him.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: No? No. I mean, it's great.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: It's a great butthole.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: I think all of these things that you're speaking about,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: it takes inspiration.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. From the other party.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: It takes desire to want to do it.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Are you receiving? Are you on the receiving end of
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: any of these?
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Of like, I mean, I've gotten my fair share.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: So you motivated them to send something?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I don't never ask.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I never ask.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Good for you, Specs.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I never act.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: A non-requested nude is high flattery.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Well, how does it feel to get one that you
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: didn't ask for, but you enjoy?
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, what? You feel like a million bucks. I feel like, what?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Come on. I feel like a champion. I feel like,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: are you serious? I'm like, all this for me?
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Do you respond like hoping you'll get another?
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: All this for me?
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Like, are you serious? Like, I remember I was seeing this.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: I was seeing this girl. And I used to work
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: at the time I worked at H and L. So
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I was always around people, but my manager was cool.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: So we have a phone out because, you know, we
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: had other people on the staff that had kids sometimes.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: You know, so you were like, look, as long as
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: y'all keep it to a minimum, it's all good.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: And I just remember one time I was handing, you know,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: this customer a few blouse blouses.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the blouse side, I don't know.
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. Um, And like, it just came up
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: because I was already texting. And then the picture just
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: came up on the thread. And I had to like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh. But I was very appreciative of that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Made your day?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: It made my, the brightest it may have ever been.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: I'm so grateful. I'm so grateful. If you want to
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: capture the goodies and send them to your boy.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: Moneybox is forever open for that.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: That level of appreciation is what will get you.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: I get to cheesing, girl. I will get to cheesing.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they wouldn't get to cheesing, but
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the risk I feel of not, because if I send
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a selfie and I don't get the energy that I
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: want from that selfie, I'm not sending you any more pictures.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I wouldn't either.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Like, what? I just sent you a picture of me
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: and you hearted it?
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: You didn't say anything at all. You didn't have no heart.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Heart? Like, beep beep? That's what you have for me? What?
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: That would piss me off.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: You're never getting another photo of me. Why would I
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: send you, why would I, why would I de-robe if
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that is the energy I'm getting from a selfie?
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to test it. You got to test
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: the wires with the selfie before you even think about it.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't, you know.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: But I'm probably wrong. I probably just need to start
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: sending my boobs to people.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: I still want to see your search history.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: No, ma'am. No, ma'am. Keep in mind, I'm a porn watcher,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: so that's not happening. But, see.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Now I'm curious.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: It's all above board.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: It's all relative.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: It's all above board. I'm not on the dark web, okay?
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: We're good, we're good.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then, like, just let me dumb shit. Like,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you ever Google something that's so fucking embarrassing? Like, if
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: anyone knew that I had to Google this because I
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: can't remember.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: Have you seen that?
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Like, what's five plus seven?
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they tried to make it like a like a
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: trend where it's like I took my husband's phone and.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that shit. Those are actually
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the ones I'd be scared of. Like I represent myself
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: as too much of an intellect to have some of
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: these things.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: You know, there's a challenge with especially if you're a
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: chat GPT like talker where you what do you tell it?
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: You tell it to give you like the most unfiltered. opinion, like,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: rip me an asshole, like, you're a comedian on stage,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Like, a roast. I'm not that close with my chat.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I don't go to my chat every day.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Some people, it's, they're crazy, the responses they get.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, because they have, like, this, like, not
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: even parasocial, like, paradigital, like, relationship with their chats. I
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: am not on, I am not on my chatbot every day. Like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: maybe once a week, I'm like, hey, can you reorganize
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: this email for me? Right. I'm not... I have a
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: light situationship with my chat. They don't, they wouldn't have
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: anything of interest to say to me. Also, why would
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you want to get, people are so fucking weird. I
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: There's all these damn trends. I can't keep up.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: So you're going camera roll.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going both. You got both of them.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Oh no. I ain't got, I ain't got shit to hide.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: You ain't got shit to hide?
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Mm-mm.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: I do.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: That shit is how to make a Tom Holland Spider-Man suit.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: How to make Spider-Man fluid. That shit is like a
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: hundred tabs.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Crazy. Oh, Well, thanks for joining us today, guys. Make
• 54:59
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• 55:02
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