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- 0:06You're listening to The West Carol Morning Show. Friday morning, twenty fifth
- 0:11day of August. I'm West Thanks for joining me. We're a week away
- 0:17from dragon Con and I will be there next weekend. I'll have some coverage
- 0:22for you as I'll be there doing interviews and talking to folks that are there,
- 0:28and I will be on location starting on Thursday of next week, so
- 0:33I'll be there covering the convention through the weekend all the way through Monday.
- 0:38However, this weekend, the dragon Con Pregame Show one hundred and ninety radio
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- 0:53on radio and then full length longer versions of the interviews will be available on
- 1:00the dragon Con Pregame Show podcast. Wherever you're listening to this show, you'll
- 1:04be able to hear those interviews, and that includes interviews from past Dragon Coon
- 1:08pregame shows, including William Shatner. Last year, I talked with Ben McKenzie,
- 1:14who, by the way, not only an actor, but also he's
- 1:19done a lot to study economics, and he has been an advocate for people
- 1:26who have been ripped off in the crypto world. And he's got he's always
- 1:30had questions about crypto and I talk a little bit about that with him in
- 1:34the interview a year ago. And currently he's working on a book, and
- 1:40he's also been doing some interviews about crypto here lately and discussing that. So
- 1:47I did that interview with him a year ago. You can hear that and
- 1:49we talk a little bit. We don't do a lot of crypto talk,
- 1:51but we do talk some towards the end of it. But again that's on
- 1:55the Dragon Coon Pregame Show podcast and there will be brand new episodes going along
- 2:01with a this year's DragonCon pregame show coming up this weekend. Phil Lamar great
- 2:07actor, voice actor, stage actor as well video game voice actor. And
- 2:12then also Adam Savage from MythBusters and Adam Savage tested. I can mention those
- 2:19projects because those are not struck work right now, Phil Lamar, I could
- 2:22list a huge resume of projects he's worked on, but again he's got most
- 2:28of his work is affected by the strike. So they're not promoting that right
- 2:31now. And then Angie Starr, who was a cosplayer who attends dragon Con
- 2:36every year. She's an Atlanta based cost player, and I'll have her on
- 2:39the show as well. We did a little bit different. We did a
- 2:43video interview and I'll release that as well at some point, but first and
- 2:49foremost, we'll have the audio interview. So it's a little it sounds a
- 2:51little different while I was working on getting that all edited and put together for
- 2:54this weekend. It does have a little bit of different sound because of the
- 2:58way that we did the interview. But we'll also have video of that as
- 3:00well. And then the players that you need to hear from. Concerning this
- 3:06year's dragon Con, a little bit of things a little different this year.
- 3:08One of the hotels has a different name. Things like that, all that
- 3:10comes to play and the pregame show for this year. And again dragon coon
- 3:16dot Org is the website if you're going to get some memberships for this year,
- 3:21don't miss out, don't miss out. And again thanks to Columbia State
- 3:24University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. So a couple of things I want to
- 3:28talk about. First of all, I talked yesterday. I think it was
- 3:32yesterday about the fact that there's this strangeness that we have when it comes to
- 3:42allowing ourselves to be silenced, because it seems it's that Animal Farm thing where
- 3:47it's, you know, some people's free speech is more free than other people's
- 3:53free speech, and and all of that just kind of strange the way all
- 3:58that just seems to happen. It just happens, doesn't it. It's almost
- 4:02like, as Animal Farm was being written, It's almost like, here's the
- 4:08way these things tend to shake out, and then they do. Then they
- 4:11happen, and I feel like I should on the fact that I have.
- 4:16And part of what we were talking about to lead into that was the fact
- 4:19that we have these organizations that get together that try to stand up for the
- 4:25rights of women and sports because they say, why should trans women that were
- 4:31formerly you know, biological men, why should they be allowed to compete and
- 4:36dominate in sports? And we've had some examples of that happening, we've had
- 4:40some that haven't done as well. And I've made the case before I think
- 4:45money is really the reason that we don't have more men doing it. That
- 4:48and maybe a sense of pride that they want to compete. You know,
- 4:56we don't have more doing it just for the sake of winning. I should
- 4:59say, because I do think that a male basketball player that would be tempted
- 5:04to go, I'm gonna go join the w NBA. I'm gonna transition.
- 5:08I'm gonna tell everybody I'm a woman and I'm gonna transition and I'm gonna dominate
- 5:11the w NBA. I think that for the most part, if they feel
- 5:15like there's a chance they're going to be able to play in the NBA again,
- 5:17they would rather wait on that. I mean, I think that's part
- 5:20of it. I really do. And I think that being someone who's just
- 5:26on the outside of the NBA and not quite in, for many they see
- 5:30that as you know, more a better potential, financially viable option than going
- 5:40into the w NBA. It's just the reality. But anyway, there's a
- 5:44whole conversations about women's paying sports that we could talk about all day, and
- 5:48I've done a whole show on that. That's not where I want to go.
- 5:50I have talked about the US women's national soccer team and having the US
- 5:59team going out earlier than they've been out in a really long time. They
- 6:03were going for three in a row, Spain ultimately winning the whole thing,
- 6:09and there's a lot of cases to be made about why Spain won. Spain
- 6:14not without its own controversies. By the way, there's a huge mess there
- 6:18with their coach. There's been a couple of incidents that happened post game,
- 6:24during the final and celebration things. So it's an ugly mess. It's never
- 6:30easy for anybody. But anyway, so the US went out early, and
- 6:34there's a lot of people that have speculated why they went out early. And
- 6:40I talked on this show about some of the criticism of some of the players
- 6:44and one in particular that seems to be the lightning rod. And to be
- 6:48fair, I want to acknowledge some of the response that she, Megan Rapino,
- 6:56has given who she basically says, she did an interview with The Atlantic
- 7:05and she says it was really disappointing and the speed with which those comments got
- 7:11into the atmosphere. Everybody on the right and everybody who was using hateful language
- 7:15and these tropes, it's like they have been they have just been waiting for
- 7:19this team to stumble. But when we are perfect, then we are accused
- 7:24of thinking that we're perfect. Really, what's happening is that the right wing
- 7:31wants this to be true. They want women to believe that you can't fight
- 7:35for things and be excellent, you can't ask for what you deserve and be
- 7:42successful. And she also went on to say one thing that America does really
- 7:49well is backlash. I think there's a huge backlash against women happening right now.
- 7:55I think we can see that with the overturning of Roe v. Wade,
- 7:58We're seeing that with trans arguments in sports. And then she also basically
- 8:05said that it's not that she and her teammates hate America. She said,
- 8:09they love America, but they just don't love America in the way that some
- 8:13people want them to. She said, more in a James Baldwin kind of
- 8:16way. So there you go. A lot to digest, there, a
- 8:22lot to take in. I'm just I felt a need to at least express
- 8:28her statements there. And I do think it's interesting that she talks about this
- 8:33attack on women she says as a backlash against women happening right now. And
- 8:39it's just fascinating to me that a female athlete who has been fighting for equal
- 8:48pay for her sport that does not have the overall draw of the men's side
- 8:52of it. That is, this is in some of this we address yesterday,
- 8:56just for the ability and the rights for women to play sports at the
- 9:03middle school, high school, and college level, there was like there was
- 9:09a huge fight for those rights, for the funding, for the equality of
- 9:15funding so that there would be an opportunity to have sports for women to be
- 9:20able to play and compete and have that venue to compete. And what's happened
- 9:28now is and that eventually of course transitions into pardon use of that word,
- 9:35but into professional sports. There's professional sport options now for many women. So
- 9:43what's happened is since allowing trans women to compete without acknowledging the fact that there
- 9:52is a biological difference between a biological man who has transitioned and blowing it off,
- 10:00been saying no, there's no difference at all. So here's Megan Rapino,
- 10:03who has been an advocate for trans women competing at soccer. She said
- 10:09she wouldn't have a problem with one of her teammates losing their position. She
- 10:11didn't specifically say that, but she said overall she wouldn't have a problem with
- 10:18a trans woman biological man taking a place on the US women's national team,
- 10:26and honestly, based on her performance, it might have been her spot.
- 10:31I mean, I don't know a lot of people saying that she was past
- 10:35her prime and that she was there sort of. And this happens in sports.
- 10:39Sometimes you keep around some of those players that have been central to your
- 10:45success, and she has been that she is. She is not a poor
- 10:48soccer player. She was an excellent soccer player in her prime. She's not
- 10:52in her prime anymore, not as an athlete. That's not where Megan Rapino
- 10:58is now. So was she left over relic from before? Some are making
- 11:03that case maybe she would have been the one that could have been bumped off
- 11:07the team for a trans woman. I don't know how that would have played
- 11:11out. I don't know that she would have felt the same if on her
- 11:15way up. I mean, imagine a scenario where she doesn't make the team
- 11:18the first time that she tries to make the US team because a trans woman
- 11:26took her spot, and that's what would ultimately happen. That's what's happened in
- 11:30swimming competitions, That's happened in some track competitions, it's happened in weightlifting,
- 11:37We're starting to see it happening in different places. Now has it taken over
- 11:41women's sports? And again, I'll go back to the fact that I don't
- 11:43think that there are male athletes who are seeing it as a financial success,
- 11:50a financial way to go it. Now. You know, you may have
- 11:54had Leah Thomas, who was not going to do well in the men's pool,
- 12:00but you know has had incredible success competing in college as a woman.
- 12:07So it's interesting to me that here you have Megan Rapino who is basically making
- 12:13this case about this backlash happening against women and the overturning of Roe v.
- 12:20Wade, which a reminder, Roe v. Wade being overturned was not a
- 12:24thou shalt not be able to get an abortion. It's putting it back in
- 12:28the hands of states, which is what many on the Supreme Court, including
- 12:35Ruth Bader Ginsburg, thought where it should have gone. I mean, that
- 12:39was somebody else who had made that statement once before. By the way,
- 12:41like to remind you again, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the real person responsible for
- 12:46Roe v. Wade getting overturned, had she taken her retirement at the suggestion
- 12:52of Barack Obama, and she would have allowed him to pick her successor instead
- 12:58of waiting for Hillary Clinton to be president and let Hillary pick her successor.
- 13:03So instead Donald Trump got to pick the successor, and then Rovie Wade gets
- 13:07overturned. So just a reminder, the true hero on the right for Rovie
- 13:13Wade being overturned is Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But here is someone saying that's a
- 13:22backlash against women. Okay, I don't agree with that statement, but I
- 13:28can see where an argument could be made for that. I can see where
- 13:31a woman who believes that women should have the right to terminate a pregnancy all
- 13:39the way up until you know, kindergarten, whatever that joke Chris Rock made
- 13:43was, I can see where someone who feels that way would see this as
- 13:46an obstacle, as a backlash against women. What I don't see the argument
- 13:52for is how you can say that an argument against transwomen in sports is a
- 14:01backlash against women. It's the opposite of that, And that's what people have
- 14:05been trying to make sure that everybody understands. This is about giving women,
- 14:13particularly girls, if you want to get into the middle school, high school,
- 14:18and college ages that we're talking about really giving them the opportunity to have
- 14:24a fair shake at competing and not being dominated on a track, not being
- 14:28dominated in a swimming pool, not being knocked around on the soccer field and
- 14:33outrun in many cases. So you can make the case that and you know,
- 14:39so often when I hear someone make an argument or a case for something
- 14:46on the left, I can hear it, and I can listen to them
- 14:48and I can say, I understand why you feel that way. I understand
- 14:52why some women would feel that way about Rovy Wade. I do. I
- 14:56understand why even some men might feel that way, But overall I don't understand
- 15:03other than a trans woman who wants to compete or someone who is trying to
- 15:07Basically, you can make your case all day. Trans people are you know
- 15:13what they want to live as, you can make that case. I've been
- 15:16an advocate for you. Live, you be you, You do what you
- 15:20want to do in your life. Just don't have it affect other people.
- 15:26Don't ask me to participate, and don't allow it to create a situation where
- 15:31other people are disadvantaged by it. That's when it becomes an issue. That's
- 15:37when it becomes a problem. So to me, and I can't hear the
- 15:41argument that trans women in sports by not by people arguing against that. It's
- 15:48a backlash against women, a backlash against women, that's the argument there.
- 15:56So I'll still stand by my statements that I made, even after reading her
- 16:02comments. When you put yourself in a position to be polarizing, when you
- 16:07put yourself in a position to stand out, you're playing whackam hole. And
- 16:14she's basically saying, yes, when you know when we're perfect, we get
- 16:19accused of thinking we're perfect. But everybody was ready for us to stumble.
- 16:23The you being ready to stumble is because people just honestly want escapism in sports.
- 16:33They want escapism in TV, they want escapism in movies. They don't
- 16:37want to be preached to. They don't want to be told what to think.
- 16:38They don't want to be told that what they believe is wrong, or
- 16:44that they're ignorant or a bigot, or whatever it is. They don't want
- 16:47to be reminded of the real world. And I've been trying to make a
- 16:52case now for a week or two about why can't we just keep our politics,
- 16:57Why do they have to always be on our leave. I understand if
- 17:02you're Megan Rapino and you think that trans women should be able to compete in
- 17:06your sport, you know, go out and talk about that, try to
- 17:10win people over, but don't try to win them over with the argument of
- 17:12well, they say they're a woman, they're a woman, and these other
- 17:15women aren't as important. See we get back to animal farm again, right,
- 17:19some women are more women than other women or whatever that is. I
- 17:23don't know. I don't understand how a trans woman is more woman than women.
- 17:29It starts to get really complicated, doesn't it. So the movie companies,
- 17:37the TV production companies, the sports owners, the sports leagues, they're
- 17:45all examples of places that we need to just let's just keep it at the
- 17:49entertainment value. Let's keep it at the entertainment value of watching teams play a
- 17:53sport, because, honestly, if we weren't dealing with anthems and protesting anthems
- 18:02at sports, and we weren't dealing with Twitter, and we weren't dealing with
- 18:07this constant reminder that you have this team that wasn't united, they weren't unified.
- 18:14If you get that reminder and then the team doesn't do well, it's
- 18:18hard not to look at that and say, maybe that's part of the problem.
- 18:22That's what certainly draws the most attention, right, that's what stands out
- 18:30the most, And she's right. There were people waiting for them to stumble.
- 18:34There were people waiting for them to fall. There were people who didn't
- 18:37have a problem with watching them lose. And yes, I think that at
- 18:42the same time, they thought that they were still perfect, they thought they
- 18:45were still untouchable. They thought they were making their run on their third straight.
- 18:52And wouldn't that have been great for American pride to have a team that
- 18:56filled with American pride, that wanted to sell lebrate a third straight World Cup.
- 19:02That would have been fantastic. We would have all appreciated that and loved
- 19:04it if it was a team full of people like all of the other teams
- 19:07they competed, that proudly stood for their anthems and sang along. Now some
- 19:12didn't had to do it. They weren't given the option of not singing along.
- 19:17But that's another conversation. And again, I don't necessarily think everybody has
- 19:22to sing the anthem. I do think being respectful is important, especially when
- 19:26you're there as a national team. But Anyway, I wanted to give Megan
- 19:30Rapino's thoughts and comments their due and give at least since she took a little
- 19:34while to reflect on it and give comments. And I go back to the
- 19:40question that many have asked, like, what exactly has she done to advance
- 19:45these issues that she's fighting for. I don't know. I haven't seen any
- 19:48evidence of any big changes. I hear her talking, and I know that
- 19:52this team has pushed for helping the pay for their team. That's something that
- 19:57they have made a change. With some of the other issues, the injustices,
- 20:02the social justice things, I don't know what actual changes have been made
- 20:04other than financial ones. And don't get me wrong, the financial ones certainly
- 20:11would be important if they affected you. But wouldn't transwomen playing in sports be
- 20:15important if they affected you and you were seventeen year old girl trying to compete
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- 24:00You ever been so tired you feel like you could sleep standing up? Well,
- 24:03there's some good news. Napping pods. A Japanese company has developed these
- 24:10nap pods. They're called Giraffe naps, which allow the user to nap while
- 24:14standing upright. They say a twenty minute nap is all you need to be
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- 24:32just curious how standing up helps you nap better, don't I don't understand that.
- 24:38How does that make you feel less fatigued? Seems to me the standing
- 24:44might make you feel more fatigued. I don't know. Do you swear a
- 24:48lot? Well, if you do, you're probably more honest than your non
- 24:52swearing friends. According to a new global study, researchers as study participants about
- 24:57their favorite swear words and how often they use them, and they then asked
- 25:02them a series of questions to gauge their trustworthiness. The results, people who
- 25:07swear a lot are more truthful, according to the study. The consistent findings
- 25:12across the studies suggest that positive relation between profanity and honesty is robust, and
- 25:18the relationship found that the individual level indeed translates to the society level. So
- 25:30there's a case to be made that swearing is a sign that you were just
- 25:36more honest. I know people that say, if you were smart enough,
- 25:41you wouldn't have to use the swear words, And I would say, you're
- 25:42honest enough, maybe you should use the swear words. I think, hey,
- 25:47there is a tomato shortage going on in India. You get scared for
- 25:51a second, there, didn't you? And a bunch of fast food chains
- 25:55there have had to eliminate the fruit from their various food items. Yeah,
- 26:00I said fruit. Monsoons and record high temperatures are killed off a lot of
- 26:04the crop. They are. Prices of tomatoes jumped four hundred and fifty percent.
- 26:08Burger King the latest chain to stop offering tomatoes. Calm down. This
- 26:14is in India, also McDonald's and Taco bell. A notice at some Burger
- 26:19King stores says, even tomatoes need a vacation. We are unable to add
- 26:23tomatoes to our food. Prices of tomatoes are on their way back down though
- 26:26in India, and pretty soon I guess things could get packed a normal and
- 26:30have their tomatoes. There's a lot of Indian food that needs tomatoes, you
- 26:37know, at least the stuff that I eat, it's Indian food. They
- 26:40need the tomatoes. I guess they're making sure that they have it for that
- 26:42and not wasting it on hamburgers. I'm not a tomato on hamburger guy.
- 26:48I'm just not. That's just the way. That's just the way I roll
- 26:51anyway. Tattoos have come a long way, now accepted by a majority of
- 26:56Americans. In fact, according to a recent survey, thirty two percent of
- 27:00Americans over the age of eighteen have a tattoo, twenty two percent have more
- 27:06than one. The Pew Research survey finds the thirty eight percent of women have
- 27:08a tattoo, compared to twenty seven percent of men, and that nearly half
- 27:12of Americans between the ages of eighteen and forty nine have at least one tattoo.
- 27:18As for why people get inked, sixty nine percent say that they remember
- 27:22to honor something. They do it to remember honor someone or something, forty
- 27:26seven percent say it's to make a statement about something that they believe in,
- 27:30and thirty two percent just like how it looks. Twenty four percent of inked
- 27:34Americans say they regret getting a particular tattoo, and of those that have no
- 27:38tattoos at all, eighty five percent say they will never ever ever get one.
- 27:47I don't have any of the traditional kind I have a tattoo, sort
- 27:52of. I've got three of them, sort of, but they're not inked
- 27:55tattoos on my body. But they are, but they're not. It's all
- 27:59I can say. Someday, if you see me on the street, you
- 28:02can ask me about my tattoos because they're not traditional tattoos. It's not if
- 28:07I were taking this particular survey and someone would say how many tattoos do you
- 28:14have? I would have to answer the question zero for what they're asking.
- 28:19But I do. It's it's really it's really hard to explain. It's vague,
- 28:26but that's just it. I'm sorry. That's that's all I can tell
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- 28:48problem is, if your pet as a pre existing condition, no other insurer
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- 28:56your vet out of pocket. True Panion and other insurers blame rising vet bills.
- 29:03About five point four million pet insurance policies are in force in the US.
- 29:10I don't know if that number seems higher or low. I'm looking at
- 29:12it, going five point four million pet insurance policies. I guess it seems
- 29:17low. I mean, I don't know how many people that I know that
- 29:21have it for their pet or pets, but to me, that seems like
- 29:26a little number. America, there's a lot of pets, a lot of
- 29:30pet owners. All right. That'll do it for this Friday edition of the
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