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Steelers Preseason Week 3 - Bills Preview · Tarps Off Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Pittsburgh, it's Pat from Tarpsoft Radio. Viewer discretion is advised,
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  Speaker 1: and thanks for tuning in.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we're drunk.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes we're stoned.
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  Speaker 1: We're your Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: And it's time to take your tarps off, Pittsburgh. It's
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  Speaker 3: your formerly Tuesday, now Wednesday morning, 8 a.m. spot on
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  Speaker 3: Tarps Off Radio. I'm your host, McGinji. Beside me is
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  Speaker 3: your co-host, Pat, intern producer Doobie behind the boards for us.
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  Speaker 3: The Howard Aller showdown leads to the Steelers getting shut
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  Speaker 3: out for the first time in 10 years. JPJ still
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  Speaker 3: isn't signed nor practicing, and we quickly have another Thursday
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  Speaker 3: night game ahead of us for the third weekday game
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  Speaker 3: of the preseason. Pat, how are we feeling after that
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  Speaker 3: L this week?
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  Speaker 1: McJingy, my dick is as soft as a cashmere onesie
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  Speaker 1: right now. All the blood is gone. It's bourbon night
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  Speaker 1: at Pat's house, and I got a big old double
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  Speaker 1: poured up.
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  Speaker 3: You ever worn a cashmere onesie?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Even a light breeze will make your dick hard wearing
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  Speaker 3: something like that, Pat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's how pissed. If this was a regular
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  Speaker 1: season game, you'd be going for a wellness check. You'd
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  Speaker 1: be asking the neighbors to stop by and knock on
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  Speaker 1: my door.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know when the last time we were shut
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  Speaker 3: out in a regular season game was?
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  Speaker 1: A regular season game? It's been a while. 2006.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's been 20 years since we've been shut out in
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  Speaker 3: a regular season game. Last time in a preseason game
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  Speaker 3: was 2016. That 10 years ago, I was in college.
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  Speaker 3: You were still, you know, in high school. It's been
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  Speaker 3: a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're making me feel old there, McJingy.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 3: Good news, though, Pat. We have some shit to talk
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  Speaker 3: on the Cleveland Browns because as bad as the Steelers
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  Speaker 3: could have been this week, the Cleveland Browns are even worse.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not really anything involving the on-field play. They
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  Speaker 3: have that quarterback battle going on there between Deshaun and Shador.
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  Speaker 3: They have officially announced Deshaun Watson as the week one
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  Speaker 3: starter over Shador Sanders. Both terrible, terrible quarterbacks. But it's
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  Speaker 3: really surprising coming after the Clips game. of Deshaun's post-game
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  Speaker 3: presser the other week. Did you see those?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. It's like, who are they going to go
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  Speaker 1: with in Cleveland? The shit or the poop?
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  Speaker 3: Here's Deshaun Watson's reaction to being booed by Cleveland fans
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  Speaker 3: this week.
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  Speaker 5: I think the whole world knows it has nothing to
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  Speaker 5: do about the performance. It's a little bit personal than that,
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  Speaker 5: so I think that's... It's a disrespectful thing. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm going to keep whatever I feel with
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  Speaker 5: me and my family internally on how I feel about that.
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  Speaker 1: And, yeah, just move on.
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  Speaker 5: But don't you think, Deshaun, that winning and playing better
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  Speaker 5: would eliminate.
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  Speaker 4: Some of that bullying?
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  Speaker 5: Last time I played on this field, I took my Achilles.
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  Speaker 5: And that same fan base, they cheered.
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  Speaker 1: When I got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: So..
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  Speaker 5: Does that have to do with anything about performance? When
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  Speaker 5: a person gets hurt, especially for your own city, and
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  Speaker 5: they cheer.
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  Speaker 4: Does any of that make you regret coming here?
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't regret anything in my life. That's a
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  Speaker 1: bold statement.
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  Speaker 3: That was the best clip, man. I was watching that
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  Speaker 3: on TV as Amber walks in the room and she's
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  Speaker 3: getting ready, putting her shoes on, whatever, and she hears...
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  Speaker 3: I don't regret anything in my life. Her head turned
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  Speaker 3: so fucking fast. She snapped, dude.
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  Speaker 4: Not one regret.
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  Speaker 3: Not one regret, Deshaun. I can think of 24 of them. Yeah, 26, 27. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God. Right after that, he was named week one starter,
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  Speaker 3: and then he came out after the fact with an
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  Speaker 3: apology to the fans.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear how that went.
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  Speaker 5: I want to address the comments from Saturday after the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think just, you know, human nature, just myself being very emotional,
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  Speaker 5: putting a lot of time these last two years to,
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  Speaker 5: you know, get back and, you know, spend time in
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  Speaker 5: this facility, in the city, meeting a lot of different
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  Speaker 5: people in the community. I thought I was going to
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  Speaker 5: get a little different response, but.
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  Speaker 1: I think my emotions got the best of me.
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  Speaker 5: My comments wasn't intending to go at any of the
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  Speaker 5: fans around in the city. Because there's been a lot
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  Speaker 5: of great fans that have been supporting me. And I
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  Speaker 5: know the frustration this organization have put, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of investment in coming, you know, to get me
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  Speaker 5: back in 22.
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  Speaker 1: And things haven't been going the right direction that we
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  Speaker 1: thought it was.
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  Speaker 5: You know, a lot of injuries, a lot of time off,
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  Speaker 5: and not putting the best football in my foot forward. So, again, just...
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  Speaker 5: I understand the frustration. I understand everything that kind of
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  Speaker 5: goes into that. And moving forward, I just want to
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  Speaker 5: focus on football, making sure that I'm putting the best
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  Speaker 5: product out there, having the best ability. Because I thrive
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  Speaker 5: off the energy. I thrive off the energy of the fans.
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  Speaker 5: I thrive off the energy of the community. I thrive
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  Speaker 5: off all that stuff. I think looking back in my
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  Speaker 5: history at Clemson and previous at the Houston organization, I
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  Speaker 5: was a big fan. community guy, big city guy, big
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  Speaker 5: fan guy, you know, during the game. So, you know, again,
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  Speaker 5: my emotions got the best of me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm human.
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  Speaker 1: I take full responsibility of that.
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  Speaker 5: And, you know, just moving forward, I want to make
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  Speaker 5: sure that I put the best part up for the team,
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  Speaker 5: for the organization, and for the city so we can
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  Speaker 5: put a lot of wins and make sure that I
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  Speaker 5: celebrate and put Cleveland on the map. You know, and
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  Speaker 5: that's why I put the helmet on my head and
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  Speaker 5: I put the uniform on my body is to go
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  Speaker 5: out there and make sure I put my best foot forward.
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  Speaker 3: Jeez, I mean, could it sound like any more bullshit?
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  Speaker 3: After hearing that, Pat, I believe the victims.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say that.
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  Speaker 6: I've come around on the victims.
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  Speaker 1: I believe women. I believe everything women say.
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  Speaker 3: Women never lie, Pat.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. A couple of things he said there that
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  Speaker 3: really stuck out to me. One was in the first part,
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  Speaker 3: he said, I'm going to keep everything I said in
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  Speaker 3: between myself and my family and then immediately came out
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  Speaker 3: and talked about how it pissed him off that they
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  Speaker 3: booed him. And then the no regrets thing is just
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  Speaker 3: absolutely hilarious when, you know, two days later you're apologizing.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad he finally found something to regret.
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  Speaker 3: If I mean, did anyone really think that they were
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  Speaker 3: going to start Shador this year?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I, first off, Instagram and Twitter
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  Speaker 1: and all that, they got my algorithms all fucked up
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  Speaker 1: because I hate watch so much Browns content that they
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  Speaker 1: start putting pro Browns content on my feet thinking I'm
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  Speaker 1: a fan.
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  Speaker 3: What does that look like, Pat?
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  Speaker 1: Because I interact with so much negative Browns content, right?
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  Speaker 1: And it's so funny, dude. You're not going to start
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  Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick who was a pro bowler
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  Speaker 1: in his rookie year because to Sean Watson, you gave
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  Speaker 1: him all this guaranteed money. It's like, yeah, dude, he
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  Speaker 1: was a pro bowler. Sure. That's like me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: paying for sex and coming back from Vegas and, you know, bragging,
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  Speaker 1: telling everybody how wet my dick got with leaving that
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  Speaker 1: caveat out.
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  Speaker 3: If you thought they would start Shador Sanders, I have
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  Speaker 3: a cisgender straight white male bar in Lawrenceville to sell
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  Speaker 3: to you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I like it.
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  Speaker 3: There's a bunch of, yeah, I had to Google, I
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  Speaker 3: had to Google liberal, dumb liberal words, dumb liberal adjectives.
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  Speaker 1: I had to Google cause I don't know any.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know how.
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  Speaker 3: To spell cisgender. I mean, realistically they should have kept
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett. He's a better quarterback than both Shadur and Deshaun. I, a.
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  Speaker 1: Video came up to remember when, uh, This was one
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  Speaker 1: of the last times he was on the field. There
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  Speaker 1: was a fourth down. It was like fourth and like
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  Speaker 1: three or something. And it looked like everybody on the
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  Speaker 1: team was ready to go for it. Even Stefanski was
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  Speaker 1: on the sideline looking at his play sheet. And Deshaun
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  Speaker 1: just walked off the field. You remember that play? I
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  Speaker 1: remember that. And Stefanski looks up, takes his headset off.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, what the fuck are you doing? And even
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  Speaker 1: the announcers were like.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they might have gone for it if.
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  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson hadn't walked off the field on that one.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like something Collinsworth would say.
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  Speaker 1: Yes!
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  Speaker 6: I know one quarterback in Kansas City who never would
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  Speaker 6: have walked off on that one.
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson in his time as a Brown is 9-10,
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  Speaker 3: 19 touchdowns, and 12 interceptions. That's pretty good by Brown's standards.
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  Speaker 3: That's really good by Brown's standards. I mean, no wonder
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  Speaker 3: why they won. him as QB one up there. What
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  Speaker 3: did Scherzer have last year? Just out of curiosity. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he was a pro bowler, so surely he could have,
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  Speaker 3: he should have had numbers better than that, right?
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  Speaker 1: Well, if he was a pro bowler, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: respect the pro bowl as much as anybody.
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  Speaker 3: There's nothing like the pro bowl. I mean, that's really
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  Speaker 3: where you get the best NFL talent at.
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  Speaker 1: He had 1,400 yards, seven touchdowns, 10 interceptions, a 56%
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  Speaker 1: completion percentage, and a 68.1 rating.
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  Speaker 3: It is absolutely disgusting that they're benching this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's racist, really.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you hit the hammer on the head.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I do.
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  Speaker 1: I fucking hit heads with hammers.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 3: Deshaun, I think his opinion on Cleveland changed a little
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  Speaker 3: bit once he found out that they were doing $ 150
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  Speaker 3: rubbing tugs about an hour south.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. He didn't show up to practice yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: You want to start with that story?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of that, congrats to Jim Leahy of the
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  Speaker 1: Sunnyvale Trailer Park on his first post-mortem arrest of a
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  Speaker 1: powerful figure in 49ers– Owner, what's his name? Jason... Jed,
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  Speaker 1: I think. It's something dumb. Yeah, yeah, Jed York. Let's
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  Speaker 1: look at his net worth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at his net worth. $ 150 in a
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  Speaker 3: trailer park.
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  Speaker 6: In Ohio?
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  Speaker 1: In East Palestine, Ohio?
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  Speaker 6: What was he even doing there?
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  Speaker 1: He was probably trying to make sure his fucking billionaire
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  Speaker 1: buddies got through with their fucking..
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  Speaker 3: Pollution they're poisoning do you think he flew in on
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  Speaker 3: his private jet to like an airstrip around eight and
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  Speaker 3: a half billion.
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  Speaker 1: This is what happens when jeffrey epstein kills himself this
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  Speaker 1: is what these billionaires have to do it's a fucking
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  Speaker 1: shame they used to just be able to fly to
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  Speaker 1: paradise get a quick hand job and go home they
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  Speaker 1: have no idea how to pick up prostitutes now that
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  Speaker 1: jeff epstein's dead.
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  Speaker 3: They're resorting to trailer park trash they don't know what
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  Speaker 3: to do they have no idea That's crazy. And we're
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  Speaker 3: not going to say..
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  Speaker 6: Someone's got to step up.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going to say what kind of religion this
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  Speaker 3: Jeb guy is. Yeah, we're not going to say.
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  Speaker 1: You thought we were going to say. We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to say.
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  Speaker 3: I know Dub is fuming behind the boards back there.
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  Speaker 4: Because I won't go in today.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man. Last thing on the docket before we move
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  Speaker 3: on to actual Steeler talk is Joey Porter Jr.
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  Speaker 1: And his contract.
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  Speaker 3: He might not be a Steeler much longer. What do
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  Speaker 3: you think, Pat?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing's pissing me off, dude. This shit happens
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  Speaker 1: every year with somebody. You know, they can't work out
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  Speaker 1: a deal. Somebody's agent says something to somebody. Some fucking
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  Speaker 1: douchebag Steeler insider somewhere. Teams are exploring options about it.
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  Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. is going to get paid. He's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a Steeler. I don't even feel like fucking
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  Speaker 1: talking about it, dude.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it's only relevant now because now you
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  Speaker 3: have Jalen. Well, before Jalen Ramsey had to speak up.
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  Speaker 3: In defense for him, like he did last year for
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  Speaker 3: Cam Hayward and his deal. Yeah. Which Cam got a
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  Speaker 3: deal done about a.
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  Speaker 1: Week before the season started. And it happened to TJ, too,
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  Speaker 1: a few years ago as well. Jalen wasn't on the team,
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  Speaker 1: but other players, you know, stepped up.
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  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: But you clearly have the agents working as hard as
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  Speaker 3: they possibly can. Putting out rumors like, you know, people
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  Speaker 3: are calling in asking about Joey Porter Jr., putting out
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  Speaker 3: rumors that saying he's allegedly going to be the highest
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  Speaker 3: paid cornerback in the NFL. When that deal gets done,
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  Speaker 3: I think this is really just Joey Porter senior coming
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  Speaker 3: for the Steelers money and just trying to get every
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  Speaker 3: last dime he can take from this organization.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of it's going to be guaranteed money. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's almost always the holdup. The Steelers don't like giving
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed money pass, you know, first or second year contracts.
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  Speaker 1: TJ Watt was a notable exception to that. And, That's
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  Speaker 1: not really looking great right now, that deal with all
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  Speaker 1: the guaranteed money. So, yeah, I think Joey Porter Jr.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Think he's expecting to break the cornerback market per se. But,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if they raise his salary and his total comp,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to lower the guaranteed money. And
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  Speaker 1: that's obviously something Joey Porter doesn't want to happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: no NFL player wants that to happen. Well, allegedly, Pat.
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  Speaker 3: And this is all agents.
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  Speaker 1: This is all alleged.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is all the agents putting everything out. Allegedly,
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  Speaker 3: the Steelers haven't even offered him a deal yet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that allegedly too. What a load of shit
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: that is, dude. You gotta sift through the bullshit on
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  Speaker 3: the internet nowadays. And if you're too stupid to do that,
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: we can do it for you. Come to us. We're
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  Speaker 3: the best shit shifters in the world.
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  Speaker 1: I did find it funny that... I mean, nobody thought
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: Joey Porter Jr. was actually injured, but they asked him
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  Speaker 1: a question. I think it was Monday, right, about Joey
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  Speaker 1: Porter Jr. when he'll be back in the field. Mike
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy didn't even address an injury. He went straight to
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  Speaker 1: contract talk. It was like, yeah, I understand, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the business side of football. Everybody's got to talk about
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: their contracts, this, that. It's like, isn't this guy technically
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: on paper having a back injury right now? Like, did
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: you forget that?
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  Speaker 3: And I think as a Steeler fan, we've seen a lot.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: We've seen more than our fair share of holdouts, hold-ins
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  Speaker 3: over the last 10 years. I mean, going back to
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  Speaker 3: Le'Veon Bell and, you know, how he took a full
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  Speaker 3: year off. T.J. Watt, you know, back-to-back hold-ins from him
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  Speaker 3: with contracts. And now JPJ.
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  Speaker 1: Which one does this?
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  Speaker 3: This one, let me answer my question with an answer
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  Speaker 3: from myself. this one feels a lot more like the
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  Speaker 3: TJ one, but I don't, I don't think it's as
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  Speaker 3: clear cut and dry as the TJ one. Like to me,
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  Speaker 3: I thought TJ was always going to sign. I thought
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  Speaker 3: TJ had, you know, the one uniform guy in him,
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  Speaker 3: a JPJ. He hasn't come out and said anything like
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  Speaker 3: when TJ was going through his contract, he was constantly
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  Speaker 3: talking about how he wants to be a one uniform guy,
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  Speaker 3: how he's, you know, holding in, he's going to get
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  Speaker 3: a deal done.
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  Speaker 1: It's, it's kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Been more towards the Le'Veon side from JPJ himself. I
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  Speaker 3: still think a deal gets done. I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: ends up like Le'Veon, but it doesn't seem as cushy
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  Speaker 3: and as comfortable as the TJ Watt hold in was.
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  Speaker 1: This is, it's not like the Cam Hayward conversation because the,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Cam was so vocal and it was so very,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got to feed my family or whatever
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  Speaker 1: he said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even think that was a real, like Cam
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  Speaker 3: was getting paid or he was going to play, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and we didn't even give much up for him.
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  Speaker 1: It was more of a restructure issue.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the timelines now. I mean, TJ
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  Speaker 1: signed his last deal. Looks like it was in July
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  Speaker 1: of 25. And prior to that, he signed one in,
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  Speaker 1: early September of 21. So that's the hold.
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  Speaker 3: In I'm talking about the, the one in 21.
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  Speaker 1: These things can, can linger. I'd expect it to come
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  Speaker 1: before the start of the season. So, I mean, yeah, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. I think he'll get paid.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think, what do you think is a
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: fair number for him in terms of like meeting in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the middle and just kind of where his value is?
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't honestly, I, I, I, It's a great
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: question because I flip between two sides of a coin.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: One side says the cap is fake. Pay him whatever
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: he's asking. I don't care what the cap is, yada, yada, yada.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: And the other side is I don't want him paid
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: as the top cornerback in the NFL. We already have
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: one of the highest paid players in the NFL on
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: this defense in TJY. I don't think we can afford
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: to make another mistake. but I probably lean more towards the,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: you know, give them 30 million, call it a day.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Let's get this defense on the field, complete our cornerback
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: room and go from there.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, like I said, guaranteed money's really the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: big question mark and that'll affect the cap in the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: future more than anything. But throwing that out the window
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and talking about average annual value I, I think 28
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: is a great number. I wouldn't, hate 30, especially where
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the market's kind of headed now.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: What's the difference between 28 and 30 then, Pat?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Pride? Literally nothing. You're asking me a good value, and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I think 28 is where I'd say.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying from a JPJ perspective. I'm saying from
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: the Steelers' perspective, what is an extra $ 2 million?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Sure. They have to be farther off than that. Christian
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Gonzalez still needs to sign his deal, and this was
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: back when, you know, earlier in the offseason. him and
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, I heard a conversation reported that Robert Kraft
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: was like expected to make him the highest paid cornerback
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in the league. And then who was it? Witherspoon just
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: signed like a week or two ago. So, you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: with that, with that record breaking contract. So, I mean,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the market's, Moving up, I don't see Joey Porter Jr.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: even eclipsing, you know, 31, 32 million. I think 30
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: is about as high as the Steelers should be comfortable going.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: But yeah, at the same time, those are just things
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: to consider. I mean, we still, let's get this deal
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: done now before we, you know, have some other quarterback
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: sign that could fuck the market up even further.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people, all the boo birds for
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Omar are, relevant online at this point saying how are
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: you giving backups you know 200 million dollars and letting
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: your number one corner not get a deal is that
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a fair.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Criticism no no i don't think so at.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: All okay i think it'll be a fair criticism if
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: a deal doesn't get done i mean we're talking about.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Nick herbig i mean the most valuable position on the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: defense and a stud that's young that you want to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: keep around when TJ Watt goes. We're talking about Keanu
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Benton on the D line, who you're expected to help
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: replace Cam Hayward, who's, you know, has a very max
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: one year left this year, next year at the most. So, yeah,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could say it's paying a backup, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: when those contracts are up in, you know, three, four years, it's,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be the same.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: So those guys aren't going to have the same time.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: None of those guys are more valuable than JPJ.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Whether they're a backup or not.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I think we've kind of beat this one to death.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to get done. He's going to
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: get paid. You know, I don't want to waste any
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: more time talking about this, to be honest.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Moving on to the Jets. Jets 17, Steelers nothing. Like
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: we said earlier, first shutout in the preseason since 2016,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: where we lost 17 to nothing to the Jets. Touchdowns
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: by Jelani Woods on a 13-yard pass from Geno Smith
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: on the opening drive.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And then 14 points in the fourth quarter.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: We lose the fourth quarter 14 to nothing. Or, I'm sorry,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: 10 to nothing. Quincy Skinner on a 31-yard pass from
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Brady Cook late. And then a field goal also with
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: about seven minutes to go. What an absolutely brutal, brutal game, Pat.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, we thought we were going into this one,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: you know, Will Howard versus Drew Aller. Who's going to
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: be the better? Who's going to light up the scoreboard
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit more?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: High hopes.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Both of them in the fucking toilet, Pat.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Excuse me. We have a studs and stiffs
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to talk about kind of individual player performances, and we
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: can get in a quarterback play there. But just the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: game in general, there really wasn't a lot of positives
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: to take away. It felt like we are riding high
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: on that first week of the preseason and everything kind
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: of came crashing down against the shitty Jets team. Yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I think it was a nice gentle reminder that the
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: season's a roller coaster and not to get too highs
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: on the high, not to get too lows in the low.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: However, this was, this.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Was, you know, one of the worst offensive performances I've
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: seen out of that Steeler team in all my years.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: You were pretty pissed off about that first drive to right.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And letting Gino Smith march down the field. But, At
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the same time, I mean, they essentially had their full offense.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: They didn't have, was it Kenyon Sadiq, right, the tight end?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Doobie told us he was hurt, he wasn't playing, but
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: apart from that, they had pretty much their full-strength offense.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I think Brees Hall was out.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Too, right?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I think he had a minor injury, but the Steelers
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: were without, like, what, five players on their defense? They
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: didn't have TJ, Cam, obviously Joey Porter Jr. They didn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: have Jalen Ramsey, so I mean, there was plenty of talent,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: really the top of the whole team, sitting on the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: bench for that opening drive for the Jets.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Geno Smith, seven for seven. That was his
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: only drive. Not pressured. It just looked as calm, cool,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: collected as it could be. Absolutely infuriating. Pat Graham actually
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: apologized after the game, saying that it's on him for
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: not having his team ready to play during the opening drive.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, sure.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: That was good to hear.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Not like it makes a difference, but fuck, at least
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: someone's taking accountability.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: It's so weird judging this preseason, Pat. I mean, I
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: feel like I'm lingering on what they're saying too much,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and I'm not focusing enough on the results. But then
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: the results are like, it's only preseason, so how can
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: you judge them based on that? realistically, we're going to
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: have to get this ball rolling on the season here
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: before we know what type of.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Team we got. Yeah, and I would hope that the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: majority of starters, I mean, guys like TJ and Cam
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and Rodgers, I don't expect to play and I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: want to play against the Bills, but we should be
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: given every starter that's suiting up a half, really, I think,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: in this game against the Bills. Just treat that first
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: half as if it's an actual regular season game and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: kind of go from there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I hope they beat the fuck out of the Bills, too.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: The last time we played Buffalo, if you don't remember, 70,000
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: people booed Renegade.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: And I know it's a preseason game, but my God.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: My God.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I'm getting angry over here, Pat. I'm getting angry.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Well, let's get into our studs and stiffs, because I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: think this will generate a. A lot of conversation here.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I was a little more liberal. Liberal, liberal, liberal with
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: my studs. Not that I had a lot to begin with.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: But I think an obvious one, the only kind of
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: big diamond in the rough here, can Johnston look good?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Not only does he look good in the stat sheet, Pat,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: but that ball flew off his foot. And the hang
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: time on that thing looked like a Russell Wilson moon ball, dude.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, we saw him a little bit too much.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: He had six punts. Averaged 50 and a half yards.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I think he had one within the 10, right? I'll
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: have to look back at that.
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I should look stuff up before I just say stuff, huh?
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: No, it's okay. We don't speculate here.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: No, we never have.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Never will. And let's remember, Corliss Waitman in 2024 set
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: the Steelers single season record for net punting average. Do
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: you remember what that number was, Pat?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Is it like 48 and a half?
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: 41.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: 41.9 net yards per punt in 2024.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: So if Cam Johnston is any indicator of, if the
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: preseason is any indicator of what Cam Johnston can do,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: look for a record-breaking year out of it. Yeah, I
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: had a.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Couple of other folks that I wanted to give a
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: stud designation to. I didn't have anyone, so take it away.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Jack Sawyer played a good game. He had a sack.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Just really showing that someone we drafted to be more
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: of a run stopper on the edge has been working
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: on his pass rush ability. So it's good to... These
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: are the things you look for in the preseason, McGingy,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: is guys kind of getting out of their comfort zone
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and picking up what they've kind of learned in the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: offseason and putting it into practice. So that's why my studs...
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: If this is a regular season game, I probably wouldn't
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: have any studs. I certainly wouldn't have a horse stick, but...
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: these uh preseason games it's good to see stuff like
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this yeah yeah why don't you give us the next
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: one yeah carson bruner as well he had a sack
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: he you know just seeing him do anything outside of
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: special teams is is a good look we know he's
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: a great special teamer um had a sack there so
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: i wanted to give him some flowers but uh one
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: horse dick.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Eight and a half inch dick you mean like a
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: horsey boner.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And I know you didn't agree with this. I know Doobie,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: intern Doobie, wouldn't agree with this. He fucking hates this
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: guy for some reason.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his motivation behind this is. Maybe
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: he can chime in. But Landon Roberts had a great drive.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: It was that drive where he stopped the fourth down.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: It was like fourth and three or fourth and five.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: It was a short pass. And it looked like a
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: first down. Like I was up in the stands thinking, motherfucker.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And Alandon Roberts, boom, laid the boom. And McJunji, I know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: one drive, one play in the regular season won't make
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: a horse dick. But seeing him come back, wear the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: black and gold, make a play down at Heinz Field,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: it got me hard, McJunji. I'm not going to tell
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you it didn't get me a little hard.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I'm glad it did, Pat, because I have nothing nice
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: to say about this team right now. So I'm glad
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: that you could muster up some courage and speak some
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: sense into my head.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, InternTube. Tell us why you don't like Landon Roberts.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Listen, I just think he's not a modern linebacker. He's slow.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: He can sometimes get a good tackle in the run game,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: but he's getting burned every time in the pass game.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: What did he bang your girl or something? Jesus Christ.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Let's not start talking shit on Landon Roberts, dude. He's
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: in the game for one reason, and it's to hit.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: To fuck people up!
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: It's to fuck.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: People in the ass!
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: If that's your thing, McGingy.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: That's probably why you don't like them, you homophobe.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Can we move on to the stiffs?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of stiffs. I got a lot
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: of stiffs.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Ryan and Rick was handing out samples down at Ironsfield
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: on the bench.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Why don't we start.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: With the O-line? Why don't we start with the O-line?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Why don't we start with the O-line that I've been
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: gaslit for the last three years into people telling me
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: that this is a quality and it's a good O-line.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: It's not.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: It's not. And I'm thinking the same way with Roman
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Wilson that I'm thinking about the O-line now until I
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: see something. Until I see something, I'm not letting anyone
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: tell me that this is a quality offensive line. It's
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: been three years now. You, Aircraft, every other jabroni in
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the world saying that the Steelers have a good O-line.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: Steelers have a good O-line. The Steelers don't have a
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: good O-line. And it's been two preseason games now where.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: They've been abysmal. Abysmal. Unplayable.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Absolutely unplayable.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: What do you think I think about the O-line? What
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: do you, like, What do you think my thoughts are?
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: If you want me to dig up some clips from
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: last year's show.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: We can go there. Oh, my gosh. Pats. Pats. Pats.
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: Are we still sucking off Dylan Cook? Are we still
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: sucking off Dylan Cook?
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: Let's have this discussion.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Are we still sucking off Spencer Anderson?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You're gaslighting me.
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: Are we still sucking off McCormick? Are we still sucking
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: off McCormick? Are we still sucking off Fontanou?
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: You don't even know who you're talking to right now, McGinji.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Listen.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: You want me to talk?
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: I'll talk.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Shut your fucking fat pie hole for a minute.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Keep defending this O-line.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: This O-line, and I've been this offseason, I've been consistent
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: with this take, is going to get a lot worse
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: before it gets a lot better, and it's going to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: have to. I mean, you drafted, first off, you drafted
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: a guy in Max Ahonacher who shows a lot of promise.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: He's going to be the best offensive lineman.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: No, he's not.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, he will.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: No, he's not.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: He's a week one starter.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: He should be. He's not. All right. You're being ridiculous.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Let me finish, though. Back when I was young, you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I'd clean my room. My parents would always say, sometimes
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it's got to get worse before it gets better. You know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: we throw a bunch of shit in this corner, throw
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: a bunch of shit in that corner. After 10, 15 minutes,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: you're like, this looks fucking worse than we started. But
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: sometimes to get better, to make improvements, McGinji, you got
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to get a little messy first, okay? We have Troy
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Faltano switching sides. You know, we expected to be a
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: little smoother of a transition. Turns out it hasn't been
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: perfect yet. We have a guard in McCormick, fourth-round pick,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: switching sides. We have Spencer Anderson, who has never really
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: been a starter in his career, moving in. We have
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Dylan Cook, who's switching sides. We're expecting somebody that came
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: from Iowa– And I think the hopes for our Iowa
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: boy were a little too high in Jennings Stonker. I
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: know mine were. I didn't think he'd be a start
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: out of the gate, but I figured maybe towards the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: end of the season we could put him in the lineup.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to happen now, but
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: that's okay. He's coming from a run-heavy college offense to
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a pass-heavy NFL offense. And, yeah, Broderick Jones barely even
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: made it back on the field. He looked like absolute
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: dog shit. What I'm trying to say is we have
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a young offensive line. We had to make some moves.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: We had to move some people around this year. And
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it's going to get worse before it gets better. This
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be a worse offensive line week one
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: than it was in that playoff game that we.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Saw against the Texans last year. But I think by
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the end of this season, McGinji will be in a
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: better spot than we were at the end of last season.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Interesting take. I have one for you. If Dylan Cook
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: is the starter week one, this team is fucking doomed.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Doomed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: He's terrible.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Who else is going to start?
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: Max.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: He's not ready, McG.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: He's back.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: He's back. He's had two padded practices, McG. You're delusional.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not putting an undrafted stiff out there just because
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: our first round pick hasn't practiced as much.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Who's an undrafted stiff?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Dylan Cook.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: The guy who came in last season and was one
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: of the better tackles in the league.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: That's what we hear.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: That's exactly what I'm talking about, Pat. That great offensive line.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: He was serviceable from the left side.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: He was good.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: He was serviceable from the left side.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: You're the guy who wants to fucking play Dungeons and
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Dragons football and fucking move everyone around on the line
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: like it's no big fucking deal.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: I just want to play players where they played in college.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: That's really no big deal at all, huh? That's really
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Dungeons and Dragons football, asking a player to play a
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: position he played for four years in college.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Left tackle in college for a left-handed quarterback is right
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: tackle for a right-handed quarterback.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: That means nothing, dude. The footwork is the same whether
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: your quarterback is left-handed or right-handed. Yeah, but your handedness
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: as a quarterback changes nothing. Changes nothing about the instructional part.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: Of the game.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: The actual footwork, yes, that doesn't change. But what you're
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: being asked to do when you're on a quarterback's blind
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: side is being different than when you're a right tackle
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for a right-handed quarterback and you're expected to be a
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: downhill blocker, a run blocker versus a heavy pass blocker,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: making sure the quarterback's blind side is protected. Those are
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: two different assignments.
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: Here's an assignment block. Do your job.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: It's not hard. I'm not hard right now, Mick Gingy.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get hard. I think by the end
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of the year, I will be hard. I'm not hard.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Speaking of not being hard, tell me about another stiff
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: that I think you know who I'm talking about.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Roman Wilson. Yeah, Roman Wilson. I was out on him
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: last week, officially, before all this, before the two passes
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: by Will Howard that he drifted on the route on
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: for an interception.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I was out on him.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Before Fabi, before Uncle Andy call in and talk about
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Roman Wilson, before Geronimo Mills calls in and says that
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: we need to bet Roman Wilson touchdown every game like
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the third world stooge he is, Roman Wilson is done, dude.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: I'm out. Out on him. It's time to stop believing
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: the hype from a guy who has never done anything
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: in between the lines when the whistle is blown.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: I was fooled for about three, four weeks because he
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: was getting so much work in training camp and all
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the reports were glowing. And, you know, from the nerds,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: from the nerds. And I realized like a back of
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: my original take when we drafted him, I said he
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: was he was too small. I said he he was,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you know, his attention to detail wasn't there. His only
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: real assets are his speed, and in college it was
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: his route running. He's not a great route runner now.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: In fact, he's a bad route runner. He obviously still
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: has his speed, but he's got basically no physical measurables. And, yeah,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of– I let the Stooges fool me.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I feel like an idiot, but I'm back on my
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: original take here.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: Never change your take, Pat. That's lesson one in having takes.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Take your take to the grave. Nope.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Not me. I'm fluid, as Mike Tonley would say. I
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: am fluid. Call me the cum king of takes.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Gender fluid, Pat. Congrats.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Why don't you tell us about your boy in the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: stiff category, Swift or Wet Jet?
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Another fumble.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it hurts.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Another fumble. It's tough to see.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: It's the preseason, Pat. Let's not overreact. You got to
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: stick to your take. I respect it. You just lectured me,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: so now you have to stick to your take. I'm sticking.
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I mean..
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Am I about to judge this guy off of two
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: preseason games early in his career? No.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Swiffer's got a long career as a Pittsburgh Steeler ahead
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: of him. And maybe if he could get some quality
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: special teamers ahead of him, he wouldn't.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Have guys hitting him at the 10-yard line.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, come on.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That's true. If that guy was blocked, he never would
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: have caused a fumble out of bounds that– That Pat
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: was all over in the stands, by the way.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's got a good family. You know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: we've met his family two games now.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Met is a strong word.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, you yelled at him walking past in the
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: stands twice, and they turned around and looked at you
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: and waved. Yeah, dude.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: That's the class.
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: You didn't have dinner with him. You didn't shake his
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: dad's hand.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Do you want me to go shake his dad's hand?
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Do I have to?
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: No, I don't.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: In fact, please don't.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Swiffer. I just had to let them know that that's
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: my guy.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: And I had to let them feel welcome in the city.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And that the whole city is behind this guy. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: if he returns that opening kick, we week one, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: am a rich man. I might bet on Swiffer wet
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: jet to have the first touchdown of the the one
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: o'clock Sunday slate opening week.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Do you feel, put your feelings aside. Do you feel
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: if he has another performance like he did the first
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: two weeks on special teams, is he a roster bubble candidate?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Is his job in jeopardy?
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Are you going to have returning kicks, Pat? You want
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: to call quarter L Patterson up? Give him one last go.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I just, uh i don't put a lot of as
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you can tell i don't put a lot of value
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: in kick returners i think each team you take away
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: their top kick returner there's two three guys on their
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: team somewhere you know wide receivers running backs defensive backs
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: that can return kicks so.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah no kick returning i've seen enough at a bag
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: or kick returners out of the last two years We
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: don't need any more bad kick returners returning kicks for
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: this team.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Here's an obvious stiff. No longer on the team. Laith Marjan,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the kicker that has the arm sleeve that Doobie thought
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: was an African-American gentleman, which, hey, it's OK. You know,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Just like Beaver football back in the day, huh?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: You guys did too in two-wheel. I'm the one who
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: realized it was an arm sleeve.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I know who he is, dude.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I told you he was white.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: That's not how it happened.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I was on another planet the whole game, dude. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: had some little kid just banging me in the head
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: for three quarters.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: When a kid's banging you.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I couldn't even think straight.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was funny.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: No, here's what I wanted to say about him. Just
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: real quick because he's not on the team anymore. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: felt bad for him when I went to.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: That training camp practice when they had Boz out there.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: And I talked about this on the pod, but usually
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: most of the practices I would go to, the kicker
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: would kind of be off to the side or he'd
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: sneak into the first field and just.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Kick a couple balls. But it was never high-intensity practice.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: There usually wasn't, like, blockers on either side coming after him.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So it was basically, like, you know, just dicking around,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: kicking the ball. But when I was there, they put
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: him on, like, the 30. And they backed both kickers.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: They backed them both up. So Boswell, 30, 35, 40, 45.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Boswell went like seven for nine and made a field
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: goal that would have been good from like 70, 75 yards.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I swear to God, it was a fucking boot. Everyone
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: was cheering. And then they bring Leith Marjan in and
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: he fucking missed like a 45 yard or short. And
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my God, that's a rough, that's
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: a tough look, you know? So hopefully he, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: lands on his feet, but not much, not much to
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: say about Leith Marjan.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know how to spell his first
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: or his last name.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Laith. Yeah, you can say it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I still don't know how to spell it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: What nationality is that? Not African-American, right, dude? I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: that sounds French, huh?
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: African-American's not a nationality, buddy.
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: You're right.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We're all American.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, he might be African-American, dude. I'm kind of
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: looking at a picture of him right now.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I think he's... It's an Arabic name.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Marjan?
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: Laith.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Arab.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: His father's from Kuwait.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, hell yeah.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you like Kuwait?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I knew a guy from Kuwait. He was a good time.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: You ended up on a list, buddy. He was on
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of lists. Good guy.
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: Boy.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: You got the other stiff this week?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Howard.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Boy.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: What did you think about those two interceptions?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: If we're playing the blame game here, I'm going 60-40
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Roman Wilson.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I like that. Because people are putting it all on Roman.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: That first interception. I mean, listen, if you run the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: wrong routes or get lazy and throw off on a route,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: he's not running sharp routes. And if Rodgers was in there,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Rodgers just wouldn't have thrown him the ball.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Right because rogers he's rogers is telling mike to get him.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Off the field yeah exactly he wouldn't have thrown the
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: ball and then he would have chewed him out on
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the sideline that one that first interception i kind of
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: saw and he ran the wrong route he should have
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: done that but i kind of saw why he did
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: what he did if if howard would have thrown the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: ball to the back right corner of the end zone
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: that would have been a touchdown right he saw an
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: opening back there and that's what he did in michigan
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: he'd beat people in manner. He'd find little parts in
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the zone. He'd pick it apart and just kind of
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: rest in the pocket. I don't know how well he
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was coached at Michigan. Obviously, a run first team. Roman Wilson. Michigan. Anyway.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, shut up, intern.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have another joint, Ray.
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: Stupid intern.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: But obviously, Michigan, not a school that, you know, quarterbacks
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: and receivers. It's offensive line, running backs, defensive tackles. Anyway,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he could get away with that in college, right? And
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: clearly they kind of game plan around that in college.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And that's a habit he's got to break. I mean,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: he can't be ad-libbing routes in the NFL and expecting
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: plays to go right, especially with Rodgers in there.
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely oh do do message and said i thought pat
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: was talking about will howard so okay fair enough deep
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: sorry you're good i don't know why you did it
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: i don't know who you thought he.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Was talking about of course he was talking about will
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: howard i'm talking about roman wilson i know pat i
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: know jesus doobies fucking stupidity is contagious it's fucking rubbing
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: off on me.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Will Howard, not a clean game, but as Mike
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: McCarthy said post-game, not clean plays.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked how he handled that. Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: You have a play of the game, Pat?
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: It was at a Landon Roberts fourth down stop. It
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was a great play. You were yapping to the dude
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: behind you, and dude was yapping to someone.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I fucking..
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at both you guys like, Hey, look, look, look, look.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: And neither of you guys are watching the fucking game. Wow.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: My play of the game is the drew Aller rollout,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: throw down the sideline to Lake McCree for 38 yards.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Tate McCray.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Tate McCray.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Yup.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Catching it on the sideline. That was a beautiful ball.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: One of the better balls I've seen thrown in that stadium.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I was, That single throw alone made me a believer
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: in Drew Aller. Dude, let's move this panic meter segment up,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Let's do it right now. What do you say? You
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: want to kick that off for us?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 46:26
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, obviously we've been talking about the O-line.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: You know, they've already let up a total of seven sacks.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Roderick Jones lit up three of them. That's the most
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: in the NFL through the preseason. What are we giving
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: the panic meter on the O line?
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: What's the scale here?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: One through ten.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: One through ten.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: One being not afraid. Ten being they're launching the nukes.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Grab the baked beans and your family and get to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the shelter.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Pat.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm at like a. A three, just because
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I saw this coming. Like, this isn't a surprise to me.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw it coming, huh? I did.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: It's going to get worse before it gets better.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: And this has been bad. I mean, I'm not surprised
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, I'm going to go with an eight.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: And if Max plays week one, it'll be at a zero.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: We need that guy in there bad. What else you
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: got for us, Doobie?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, with the O-line comes, you know, the
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: run game. We're on the average in 3.1 yards per
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: carry so far through the preseason. What are you guys
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: thinking about the running back room?
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I'm on a 9 out of 10, McGingey. Not the
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: running backs specifically, but the running game as a whole.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding when I say they have barely touched
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: this in training camp and practices. McCarthy's been so focused.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback play in the passing game, especially with
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: such a young O-line and inexperienced in their positions, not
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: working on this in training camp, introducing some new backs
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: in the room. I mean, it's going to be a disaster, McG.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think enough people are talking about it. Pat
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: is sounding the alarm. Get the canned food ready and
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: tell your family one more fucking DEFCON and we're all
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: saying our fucking prayers.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what'd you say? You're at an eight?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I said eight. I'm at a nine.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: Nine?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Nine out of ten. I'm terrified.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Terrified.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: 26 carries for 98 yards just isn't cutting it last week.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: We had 26 rushing attempts, 38 passing attempts. I'm probably
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: right around that number, too. I'm going to go eight.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: And I would be at a ten, but we gave
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: ten carries to Caleb Johnson. You spread those carries out
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: between Rico and Jalen, and I think it looks a
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: lot better. Caleb Johnson is clearly not that guy. He's
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: worked his way out of a roster spot at this point.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: 10 carries with the longest carry being five yards. He's
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: just slow, not agile, not as strong as we thought
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: he was going to be. Clearly did not make the
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: jump to the nfl um like we thought he could
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: have well.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about because this is what i mentioned when
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: we evaluate preseason games right mcginge is like is adding
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: warren and dowdle going to drastically improve this run game
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: it Is adding Werner Doudo going to make holes open
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: up in the offensive line?
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Is it going to increase reps in practice, make sure
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: guys are ready?
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I don't see adding. Obviously, they're better than Caleb Johnson
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and the rest of the guys below them there, but
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's been a running back issue.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: It seems like it's been an offensive line issue, an
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: execution issue, a lack of attention to detail issue, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I don't see it getting any better.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Here's one thing that I will sound the alarms on.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: And I said this when we signed Rico Dottle, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: I've said it on the show a few times. Rico
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Dottle is a terrible pass blocker. He is terrible in
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: pass protection. With Jalen back there, I think not only
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: does the running game get better, but the offensive line
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: play looks a little bit better as well.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, fair enough. But I am concerned. What
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: else you got for us, dude?
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you guys make some good points about
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the run game. But on to, you know, secondary again.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: You know, you guys have already talked enough about JPJ.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: But how about Jamel Dean, who, you know, is kind
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: of filling in for him right now. Hasn't really done
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: anything except one solo tackle the whole preseason.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm at a 6 out of 10. For those
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: math geniuses and the math wizards, that is one above five, right?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm leaning towards more pessimistic than optimistic here, and
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: that's solely because nothing against Jamel Deeney played great last year,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: but like you said with the offensive line, McGingey, until
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I see it, I'm not going to believe it. And
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I say that because we have had some awful, awful
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: free agent and trades with cornerbacks the past few years,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: especially guys not necessarily in the prime of their career. Now,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Jamel Dean's a little younger than, obviously, Darius Slay and
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: a couple of the guys we've signed in the past,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: but this team has just had an unprecedented spin of
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: bad luck with hoping guys can repeat the season that
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: they had the year prior when they joined the Steelers.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think for that reason, I mean, I
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: would— If the bias of the last few free agent
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: corners we've signed didn't exist, I'd be at a one.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Because I haven't seen anything out of Jamel Dean that
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: has caused for concern. Obviously, he hasn't looked the greatest
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: in the preseason, but I'm willing to overlook that unless
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: the regular season starts and he looks exactly the same.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: But I'm probably going to go with a three. just
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: because I am scorned by the past free agent signings. And,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: you know, he could be another name on a list.
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Let's go through just real quickly here. Some of the
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: recent free agency kind of acquisitions here. Sante Samuel Jr. Excellence.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Darius Slay. Horrible. Didn't even finish.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Inside sleeper agent for the Eagles and the Israelis.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson fell off. He wasn't the same player. Cam Sutton,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: on his return, obviously was unplayable. Dante Jackson had a
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: lot of interceptions. He had, what, six, seven interceptions? He
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: had a lot of interceptions. I believe he led the team,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: but just not, you know, a lot of holes within
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Dante Jackson. So, you know, just doesn't inspire confidence when
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: you look at the history of the folks they've brought
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: in at the position.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: No, and I do know someone who was working on
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Cam Sutton's house. So if anyone wants to get that
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: terrorist a message, let me know and I can pass
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it along.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going to do that. Go ahead. Who
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: else you got for us, Doob? You're on mute, Doob.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Good points there.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Working out the kinks.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: So what about special teams?
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: I mean..
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I know we've said that Johnston's been punting really well.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: There's been a little bit of mixed reviews with Wet
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Jet from you guys. But one thing I've noticed is
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: kind of penalties. We had seven flags just in the
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: preseason opener. How are you guys feeling about new special
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: teams coach and, you know, overall vibes?
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there was any penalties in the
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: first half. of this past preseason game. There were four total.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: They were all in the second half. So I don't know,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: maybe something to possibly potentially be optimistic about. Penalties do
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: concern me on special teams for sure. We know that
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: whenever we lost, and we talked about this last week,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: so won't go too far in depth here, but whenever
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: we lost Danny Smith, we lost one of the best
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: kind of defensive special teamers, one of the best coverage
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: special team players or coaches possible. with the hope that
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Crossman can bring in some of the returning ability. We
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: spent a fourth-round pick on a returner who, I'll save
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: my judgment until the regular season, McG. I'll play ball
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: with you, but has looked pretty mediocre thus far. I'd
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: put my level of concern at a 7 on special teams.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Special teams as a whole, I'll move it down to
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: a 5, because Boz is the man, and I like
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: Cam Johnston. But in terms of punt coverage and punt
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: returns and kick coverage and kick returns. If it was
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: just based on that, I'd be at like a seven
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: or eight.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I'm out of two. They get one for each fumble
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: they've had so far.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: Let's, let's take a look at the numbers here. Swiffer
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: wet jet average 17.7 yards per punt return four touchdowns
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: in the three years at Iowa.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Oh, we're talking. Okay.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: On the kickoff, he's got 27 and a half yard
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: return average, two return touchdowns. He's got 2,500 total return yards.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: I'm giving this guy as much slack as my line
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: can handle. He is someone I've been asking for the
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Steelers to get for the last, I mean, since we
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: got rid of AB. AB was the last good returner
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: we've had. We've been terrible at the return game since.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: He's adjusting to the NFL kick return style, which is
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: notoriously different than in college. He's had nothing but borderline
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: roster players in front of him, not our normal special
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: teams guys out there. I'm giving him some slack.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I'm at a two. Okay, well, take his dick out
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: of your mouth for a second. How do you feel
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: about the rest of the special teams unit around him?
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnston, I think, is a stud. I mean, this is,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: you know, essentially his third stint with the Steelers now.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: I've been jizzing my pants for three years thinking about
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnston. And Chris Boswell's the GOAT. He's the best Steeler.
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: Oh, man.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: He was our best Steeler last year.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. Apart from three players, Mitch and G. Cam Johnston,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Chris Boswell, and Swiffer Wetjet. Acknowledging there's a lot of
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: people on special teams.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: You know who I like, Pat?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Carson Bruner.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, I like Carson Bruner.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Benny Scrooge. No, come on. You're missing.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Mount Washington's finest, Christian Kuntz. Christian Kuntz, the long snapper.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: He's a hell of a long snapper. He needs to
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: be a pro bowler this year. This guy does everything right.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: He's moving into his age 32 season. He's getting up there.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: They didn't know if he was going to be back
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: this year. And let's not forget, Pittsburgh's finest went to
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Chartier's Valley and played for the Duquesne Dukes. Played for
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: the Duquesne Dukes. Played for the Duquesne Dukes. This guy
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: is the answer.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I saw him taking kids shopping for school today.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Did you?
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: On LinkedIn, but yeah.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: You didn't see him while you were getting your clothes
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: at the Baby Gap?
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: No. I saw him on LinkedIn. He was taking kids
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: shopping for school.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: So, you know, see Pat, there's a bright spot in
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: the special teams right there.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I did want to back up Pat with a little
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: wet jet stat that I know you brought up, you know,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: that the kickoff returns in the NFL are a little
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: bit different, which I'll, so I'll give them some slack
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: for averaging only 20.8 yards per kick return this year, but,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: punt returns aren't different in the NFL and he's only
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: averaging six and a half yards per return. So that
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: is a little bit, you know, alarming.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: It's not quite 17.7, but once he breaks one, that
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: number's going to jump.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Let's hope.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: That's how averages typically, uh, once he breaks that 80 artery,
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: you won't have to worry about them averages.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: That's yeah. I mean, that's the thing about dry. And
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I've been very vocal about this is, uh, He's going
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to have to be one of the best returners in
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: football right out of the gate for us to get
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a good return on a fourth-round pick from him. Absolutely not, Pat.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: If that's all we're expecting him to do is return
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the football to play. five snaps a game, returning kicks.
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Are we for real? That's what we're
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: doing now, Pat?
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: That's how I've always felt. Come on, Pat.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like drafting the kicker, McGingey. I mean,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: you're not going to use a fourth-round pick on a kicker,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: It is nothing like drafting a kicker. This Roman Wilson
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: is going to be off the roster. This guy's going
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: to slot right in. There's our fourth wide receiver uses
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: speed uses breakaway speed. We're going to be good. He's
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: going to be, he's going to be solid.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And for those of you listeners at home, I could
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: hear aircrafts heads spinning who say, Oh, it's a day
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: three pick. Oh, fourth round. Who cares? Day three pick.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Let's go through some former quote day three picks and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: former fourth round, fourth rounders, Jack Sawyer, Mason McCormick.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Fourth string edge rusher.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Mason McCormick. Starting guard.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Are you saying he's good? I haven't seen anything good
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: out of the offensive line.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Starting guard, Mason McCormick.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Nick Herbig.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Stud.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Prior to that, Calvin Johnson.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: Nick Herbig was also a backup.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: You know who else was a fourth round pick? Kevin Dotson.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: One of the best guards in the league.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Calvin Austin was a fourth-round pick.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: Calvin Austin.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Terrible.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say terrible. Terrible. And, you know, knee injury.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Looks pretty brutal. Got carted off at practice for the Giants.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Prayers up for Calvin Austin III.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this team's been able to find
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of value in the fourth rounds. So, in
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: order for Wet Jet to be in line with some
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: of the fourth-round picks we've had even recently... He's going
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: to have to be one of the best returners in
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: football the next few years.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I disagree, Pat.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I think we'll be all right.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: Okay. Good, I'm glad.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: I think that's it from the panic meter.
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  Speaker 3: Another weekday preseason game. I'm fucking sick of it, Pat. Luckily,
• 1:04:14
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• 1:04:17
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  Speaker 3: Bills minus three. 88% of the bets and the money
• 1:05:03
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• 1:05:06
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• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: Let's relax.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: Let's relax.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: The under has 83% of the bets, but only 42%
• 1:05:15
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• 1:05:18
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: And do with that information what you will. I'm leaving
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: both of them out of McGingy's hot lead. I'll save
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: that surprise play for you guys a little bit later
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: in the episode. What to look out for for the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Bills this week. They got obviously new head coach Joe Brady,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: who's been the former Bills OC the past few years.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: One thing, a little tidbit on their offense, is their
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: play action. They've run an astronomical amount of play action
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: so far this preseason. Five out of nine of Josh
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Allen's attempts have come on play action. 32% of attempts
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: for Kyle Allen and over 50% of attempts for the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: other backup, Shane Bukili.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Bukaki? Shane Bukaki?
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Shane Bukaki. They got new defensive coordinator Jim Leonard. He's
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: a first-time NFL DC that did two stints as a
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: player with the Bills in the 2000s, and he spent
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: some time as the Wisconsin defensive coordinator. 2017 to 2022,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: where he coached Keanu Benton and Nick Herbig. Their biggest
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: defensive focus this preseason has been to stop the run
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: and tackle better. Last year, they averaged 8.8 missed tackles
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: a game, simply unacceptable in their eyes. And over the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: two preseason games so far, they're at five and a half,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: seven the first week and four missed tackles against the
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: Browns last week.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: Cool. Cool. Did you, uh, Talk about whether or not
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen's going to play. It doesn't look like he is.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he is.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: However, I wouldn't put it past him. He's a stat pattern,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: that guy. He's going to want to get every touchdown,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: every single yard.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 7: He can't.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Anything in particular you're looking for in this game, McGingey?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: What I'm looking for, like, from the Bills.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: From the Steelers' perspective, McGingey, fuck the Bills.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Well, the Stewart's perspective, yeah, I got a couple things
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: written down here, specifically two. One, I'm looking for better
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: O-line play, specifically for Max to take the job. I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: think this is the week that Max shines, puts Dylan
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: Cook in the fucking dirt.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I hope he plays. I mean, it's possible. He's practiced
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: in full. He's had some contact practices, which is always
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: a great sign. He's not just you know, in the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, doing some stretches and rolling
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: dice with the other injured guys. I mean, he's getting
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: after it. So would really love to see him in
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: the preseason. That's my first point as well. Apart from
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Max Ahanich or just who's in, who's out, you know,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: who's starting, where are they at? I think it's pretty
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: much set in stone right now. But I just, you know,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: want some confirmation after watching them, the first offensive drive.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: And the public is confused. They got a nickname for
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: him and it's a pretty cool nickname, but I'm not
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: using it. I got my own nickname for Max. The
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: public is calling him I Max, which cool name, right?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Last name starts with an I first name, Max. I'm
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: just calling him the anchor, Max, the anchor, I hand
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: it short. Cause I, I think that's how you pronounce
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: his last name, right?
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: On a chore.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: It looks like anchor to me and he's going to
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: anchor this offensive line.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Future.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: This guy is the anchor of this offensive line. In
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: two years, he's going to be the best player on
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: this offensive line. And like I said, Pat, I'm standing
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: by this take, and I will be buried with this take.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: This guy is going to be a stud. And it
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: was a phenomenal first-round pick.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm looking for as well. I
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: had two things I highlighted. Just Will Howard. I mean,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: we know the two quarterbacks that are definitely going to
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: be on the roster. Aller and Rodgers. And I think
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: whether or not Will Howard is even on the roster
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: is going to come down to this final game.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, what is your..
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Quarterback prediction for this team, Mick Gingy, as of right now?
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: Well, so on the flip side, my second thing I'm
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: looking for is continued confidence, ability to make good decisions
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: from Drew Aller. I think that Aller is clearly the future.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: At this point, I really don't care what happens to
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Will Howard. I don't really care what happens to Mason Rudolph.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: I would like to see Drew Aller just continue to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: take steps forward and And I'm now excited to watch
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: Drew Allard play football. Yeah.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of the opposite because I know he's obviously not,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I want to see him do well, you know, clearly,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: but I know that his position, he could go out
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: and throw three interceptions and take four sacks and look horrible.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: His position on this team for this upcoming year is
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: really not going to change. It's set in stone, but
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: really what's going to come down to, you know, the
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: number two spot is going to be Will Howard and,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: whether he can, you know, look like an actual serviceable
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: backup or at least close enough to it. And, you know,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: what you're going to do with, with Mason Rudolph, you know,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: at that point. So that's why I'm going to keep
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: my eyes on, on Will Howard in particular.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: And I think that's everything you just said. Oh, that's
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: why I'm keeping my eyes on Aller. Well, if, if
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: Howard and realistically, I don't know why Rudolph's not playing.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Like it, Rudolph must be a lock on this roster.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: if he's not playing because otherwise you have him play
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: and you, you try to showcase what he's got in
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: the hopes that you can move on from him.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: And McCarthy said, you know, basically I'm paraphrasing, but he said,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: you know, we've seen all that we need to see
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: from Mason Rudolph. And it, it doesn't sound like that
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: means we're cutting Mason Rudolph, right? It sounds like they
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: think he's been pretty damn impressive in practice and in
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: the preseason and, And, you know, they've seen it all.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: If somebody is competing for a job, then you're not
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: going to say we've seen all we need to see.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: We're not playing him. And the only other two options
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: are he's been so ass that we want him gone
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: or he's cemented a spot on this roster. So I
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: really think it's more positive than negative, obviously.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: And I think Mike McCarthy, as we've said, is going
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: to help Rudolph. Let me ask you this, Pat. Mason
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Rudolph or Byron Leftwich?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Fuck Byron Leftwich, dude. I ran into him at a
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: teachers versus Steelers basketball game back in high school. I
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: was a little lad. I was probably, you know, third,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: fourth grade at that point. And he was like walking
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: into the locker room, signing autographs. I mean, you could
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: feel the confidence. The confidence is, from this guy radiated
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: off of him. You would get burned if you stood
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: within five feet of this guy. That's how fucking intense
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: his confidence was. And he was walking into the locker room,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: got done signing like 10 autographs. And I was next
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: in line. I said, excuse me, can you sign this?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: And he just like looked right over me. Didn't look
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: at me. Just walked away. Didn't sign it. Never got
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: his autograph. Fucking burned me from day one. He can
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: go fuck himself.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Superbowl winner as a player and a coach.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Can he pick it?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Although as a coach, impressive.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Mason Rudolph or Charlie Batch?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Charlie Batch. Yeah. This is an important question. I wanted
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: to get to this at some point in the podcast.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: And I was thinking about making a whole segment out
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: of it, but I don't think it applies to a
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: lot of players. It definitely applies to Will Howard. What
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: is your level of confidence that if the Steelers don't
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: put him in the active roster, what is your level
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: of confidence he'll make the practice squad versus– getting scooped
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: up by another team.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Will Howard.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I saw the idiots. There was a certain stooge
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: for 93.7 The Fan that said they should put aside
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: a deal with Mason Rudolph where they put him on
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: the practice squad, but if Rodgers gets hurt, they elevate
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: him and they start him. It's like, yeah, it was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. Like, yeah,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: Mason's just going to go from $ 200, 000 a week down
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: to $ 20, 000 a week just because he promised him. 93-7
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: the Stooges earning the credibility there. But Will Howard?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Pat.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: That's a good question.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: It's a great question.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: And I think it all boils down to is Mike
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: McCarthy willing to risk losing him? And I think the
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: answer to that question is likely yes.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: What also it boils down to, McGingy, is when you
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: look at it from another– you know, common knowledge, I'd say,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: but for those who don't know, if you're put on
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: the practice squad, another team has the opportunity to assign
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: you to their active roster, right? You're not really going
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: from practice squad to practice squad, but if somebody comes
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: calling with a contract for the quarterback two or quarterback three,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: if they want to keep you active on game day,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: then you're essentially going to that other team. So is
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Will Howard, like, is there any team out there And
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: injuries can still happen in the preseason, right? Quarterback can
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: go down, you've got to fill up some depth. But
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: is there a team out there that thinks Will Howard
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: can come in after not being with them at all
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: in the preseason or the offseason and be the second
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: or third best quarterback on their team? Like, are we
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: confident that if he doesn't make the roster, he's not
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: going to make the practice squad? I mean, I'm like 60-40.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: 60 that he makes the practice squad, 40 he gets
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: scooped up. There is a team that he led to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: a national title, or I guess a state that he
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: led to a national title, that is struggling at quarterback
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: right now. And luckily, I think they're too stupid to
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: even think about picking up Will Howard. But Will Howard,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: as a Cleveland Brown, probably be a little bit better
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: than Shador and Deshaun.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: And we know they'd keep fucking... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: 8 quarterbacks on their roster.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: They keep doing Gabriel. Maybe they get Flacco another year.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: 8 quarterbacks at trading.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Camp last year. Oh my gosh. Should we just go
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: through the list of Browns quarterbacks to start since 2000?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think we have enough time for that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, dude. You forgot the injury report.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I went scuba diving I was underwater
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: for a minute so lack of oxygen to the brain
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: has been affecting me I'll just go through the whole
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: list here Sebastian Castro was wearing what's wrong with him
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: he got hurt with an ankle injury it doesn't look
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: too serious he was in a walking boots I think
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: it was two weeks ago but it's not looking too
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: serious he is expected to miss the preseason game but
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect him to miss too much time in
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: the regular season Jalen Ramsey activated..
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with him?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: He had an ankle injury. Oh, I see what you're doing.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: I would scoot it out of it. Sorry. Jalen Ramsey
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: activated from the pup list yesterday, actually. Well, Monday, after
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: dealing with some knee issues. Joey Porter Jr. Nothing?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: What's wrong with him?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Nothing. Nothing's wrong with him.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 10: He is..
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Having some contract-related injuries. Jaquan Brisker and Sebastian Joseph Day.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with them?
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: They're back in pads, so we might see some action
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: for them. They're off to the side working with trainers, though.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and Michael Pittman.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with them?
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they should be fine. I wouldn't expect them to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: suit up for the Bills, though, but they returned to
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: padded work, and it's looking good for The season starter,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: first week, Jesus Christ, season start, but nothing shocking there.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Dante Kent.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with him?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: He's on the pup list, McGingy, with a knee injury.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: And Brandon Echols.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with him?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Well, he's been dealing with an ankle injury, McGingy.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: That's a short list. That's a short list.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, knock on wood, it's a very short
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: list for this time of year. Nice. Just a bunch
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: of fake injuries, really. I mean, there's more fake injuries
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: than real injuries right now.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: Aircraft.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I forgot the introduction. Everyone's favorite segment, things to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: watch from aircraft's eye in the sky.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: Flight attendants, prepare for takeoff, please.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: Aircraft just wants to remind everyone to evaluate the player
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: and not get too highs and the high and lows
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: and the lows.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: And he's very excited about his week. One things to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: watch from aircraft's eye in the sky. So in, in
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: three weeks, he's going to have a banger for us.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: He says, absolutely.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I heard he's actually been flying over some practices, right. For, uh,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: the Steelers and some other teams in our division and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: doing some spy work. I probably shouldn't be saying that
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: on air.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not out our guy, Pat.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: But I went scuba diving, so sorry. Lack of oxygen
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: to the brain. Yeah, makes sense. But he knows his stuff.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: He's got his sources.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: What is the plan for the game? You know, I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: hope everyone's got some good food set aside. You know,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: they get off of work early, maybe on Thursday, hit
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: a happy hour, go to a crib to watch. I'm
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: looking forward to sitting on my couch for this one, Pat.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, it sounded like you were inviting yourself over to
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: my place for a minute. I thought that's where this
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: was going.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: Did you finally finish cleaning your place?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: My place is clean, brother.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: Is it like, you know, clean? Like would a girl
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: approve it?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: I am a bachelor in my late twenties, but Gigi,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: this is as clean as it gets.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: There's probably a recliner in the middle of the living room.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: And I have two TVs and one is in front
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: of the other, like not even like one is three
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: inches in front of the other one.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: How does that work?
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: The one behind it is not being used right now.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: it's been like that for like a.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Month how about we hang one of them up pat
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: one of.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Well the big one big it's it's like 55 maybe
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: 60 inches not huge but that one's great but uh
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: it's got a lag it's got an input lag on
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: my video games so i brought the tv up from
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: downstairs it's a little smaller but it's no input lag
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: and i'm like i was drunk maybe a little high
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: and i was like fuck it dude i'm just putting
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: it right here just right i'll deal with the other
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: one later And that was like a month, month and
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: a half ago. Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: You don't really have too many women come over, huh?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: The broads?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: No.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: That's tough.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: You know, someone asked me the other day, someone who
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: doesn't know you guys too well and was like, are
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: you going to have to be the one to carry
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: on your family name?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: How would you answer that question, Pat? I don't know, dude.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: Am I going to be the one in charge of
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: carrying on the family name?
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Are you having a kid?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: No, not now.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: At some point? Yeah, I'll be having kids. Well, there's
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: your fucking answer, McGingy. Why are you fucking busting my balls?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: What if I don't have kids? Is it all up
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: to me? Is it all the responsibilities on my back?
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Well, you said you're having kids, so it's a moot point,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: isn't it?
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: Well, heaven forbid, you know, heaven forbid my dick don't work.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I got the guy for you if your dick
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: don't work.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: Well, then it's not my kid.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: No, I mean this guy.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: He's a theoretical guy.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Former Allegheny County bare-knuckle boxing champion. Rick the Rhino. I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: heard on the street people were saying he is in
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: the process of suplexing.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, but he makes dicks hard. What does he do
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: for the sperms?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. We should ask him that. We
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: should ask him that.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe he has a product for that.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he does. Maybe, hypothetically, he could just inseminate.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure his sperm are fine.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: We did have a suggestion. So in our fantasy football league,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: there was a suggestion this year that the loser of
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: the league, there's a loser's punishment, right? Someone suggested the
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: loser had to let their significant other get impregnated by
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: the winner.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Sounds like everyone's a loser in that situation.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be crazy.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the winner is there.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: The child. The child would grow up with winning sperms.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one fantasy football championship.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: From before he was born. That's more than you got.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: It's really not. I got at least half of one.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so one is more than half, Pat.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, please. You got an asterisk that comes with that championship.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm still coming. Maybe not buckets, cops right now.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Just cops right now. We'll get up to buckets eventually.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: Anything else you're looking for for this game?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: What game?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Moving on to McGingy's hot lead. You're going to hate
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: this one. Everyone's going to hate this one.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: I hate this one.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: I hate this one a lot. This is one of
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: those bets, you know, it's a preseason bet. But we
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: need to start getting comfortable placing bets that you don't like. Because,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, realistically, if you like every bet you place,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: you're not winning any money. This bet, the opposite side,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: I don't even want to tell you. The spread's two
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: and a half, okay? We're going with the underdog on this.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: The minus two and a half favorite. 97% of all
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: bets placed have been on the minus two and a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: half favorite. And virtually 100% of the money. Virtually, it's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: like 99.99 something. Virtually 100% of the money is placed
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: on the minus two and a half favorites. So we're
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: going with the underdog.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: Who is it?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: We're going with the Cleveland Browns plus two and a
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: half against the New England Patriots.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Depending on the Browns.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: It's hideous. It is disgusting. And it makes me want
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: to puke. But yes, I am betting on the Browns
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: this week.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: How great would it be if Deshaun and Shador play?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: Deshaun has like two interceptions and like 30 yards. And
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Shador has like three touchdowns and 120 yards or something.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: It would be great, Pat. And, you know, honestly, if
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: the Browns lose, like I really can't be that upset.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: So we're going Browns plus two and a half.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: If they lose, they lose.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: A little reminder, McGingey's hot lead is now one and
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: two on the year. We're three seasons with a phenomenal
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: positive track record. So let's remind ourselves that it is
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: a season-long adventure and we're here for the long haul.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: How do you feel in general, gambling question, about the
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: two and a half as opposed to the money line?
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not betting on the Browns to win.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a strange... blind to draw on the same.
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  Speaker 3: In an ideal world, the Browns lose by two. So
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: the Browns lose and I win.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: Well, let's take the Browns out of the equation. This
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: is just a general question. You see two teams. You're
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: very neutral towards, and the line is two and a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: half or one and a half one way or the other.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: Would you just prefer to bet money line at that point?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: If you're betting on the underdog, it's a great question, Pat.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the public answer is yes. And I
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: think the sharp answer is stick to the spreads.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I can live with that.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Fade the public. I think that's what we need to
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  Speaker 3: know here. Do you have the answer of the week
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  Speaker 3: for us?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm excited about this one. I'm not going to
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: give you any suspense here. Rick Seaback, 73 years old
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: from Bethel Park.
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  Speaker 3: Is that his real name?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: Legend. Rick Seaback. I've never asked myself that question.
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  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh legend, the voice of Pittsburgh for Pittsburgh. I used
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: to think growing up that Rick Seaback was like this
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: big national celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: I know this guy.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: You know Rick Seaback? He's a fucking man.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this guy. Okay.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: I used to think he was.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Like a big deal. Like I thought he was like,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: you know, bigger than Al Roker when I was younger.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: But he just loves Pittsburgh, man. He did that Kennywood.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: Documentary thing, right?
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, that's why I'm bringing it up. I watched some
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: clips of old Kennywood, my answer of the week, and
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: maybe we'll throw him an honorable mention. It was Joe
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: Williams from Bloomfield, who was the real-life Noah of Noah's Ark.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: He maintained Noah's Ark for years, over 50 years, painted
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: the fucking shit by hand. He was the guy, right?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: And Rick Seback came and did that Kennywood documentary. Oh,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Noah's Ark at Kennywood.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: Really highlighted him in his little documentary there. Yeah, Rick Seback,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: his documentary is about eating hot dogs in Pittsburgh, sandwiches
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, ice cream in Pittsburgh, Kennywood. He's just a
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: guy who loves life and loves Pittsburgh.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: So this Kennywood one with the guy who painted the
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: Noah's Ark, how old is this?
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: It came out in 2003, but it's got clips older
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: than 2003.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, because they did repaint Noah's Ark within the last
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: couple years.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, this, yeah.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: The guy, last I looked, this was a year or
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: two ago. He was still alive. Joe Williams from Bloomfield.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: He was like 85. Let's see if Google's got anything
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: on Joe Williams. Joe Williams.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: Kenny Wood.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: He's passed.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, no.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Fuck. Did he?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: No, this is different, Joe Williams.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: Oh, you fucking asshole.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: This Joe Williams is from Carnegie. Worked for the railroads.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, that sounds like a great Yenzer in and
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: of himself. July 5th, 2024. Joe Williams of Bloomfield, former
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: manager of Noah's Ark, 85 years old, retired. So two
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: years ago, he was still kickin'.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, he probably helped in the repaint.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, he did.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: He painted the whale, Mick Gingy, the whale.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, but they repainted it is what I'm saying.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he was involved in that job recently.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: This is interesting because I'm looking at an obituary. This
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: is not the same guy. Okay, nice.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: So, Joe Williams, Rick Seaback. Would be one of the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: first results on Google. Oh, Joseph John Joe Williams, 70
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: of Carnegie. Yep, I see what you saw.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Rest in peace.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this other guy does not have a last name Williams.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: It's Joe Sacramento.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: What? Yeah, so not the same guy. Obviously. Obviously, Pat.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Come on. Stick with it here. Italians.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 3: If any of you know this Joe Williams guy, or...
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: Or if you know Rick Seaback, personally.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get Rick Seaback. That would
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: be so cool, man. He's a little too wholesome for
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: our program, too, I'd say.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little too loved.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: We're kind of like... We wouldn't want to ruin his..
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: We're like Pittsburgh Runts. At the age of 75, ruin
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: his reputation. So, Rick, talk about the best pussy you've
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: ever made. Where's the finest Pittsburgh snatch in town? So
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: I've seen amusement parks. I've seen hot dogs. I've seen
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: ice cream stands. Tell me what titty bars I'm supposed
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: to go to, Rick. Where's the titty bar expose? Not
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: Club 412. Rest in peace, erotica, dude.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 3: Doobie, trivia question.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Alright. Hell of an episode, boys.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Alright.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: Last week, we asked you what was the first musical
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: performance in Heinz Field? This was a question from Pat.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: The answer is NSYNC.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 10: 2001.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: This week, we got a preseason.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Just another game for two.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Which Steelers running back earned the nickname preseason Bettis after
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: leading the entire NFL in preseason rushing yards in 2010,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: but then finished the regular season with only 18 yards?
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: That's a great question. I'm going to fire a guess
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: off now, and don't tell me if I'm right or wrong,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: but I'm going to go Isaac Redmond. Don't tell me
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: if I'm right or wrong.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: That's a good guess. Thank you. Do you have a thought?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Did this guy stick around for a little bit, McGingy?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: I remember him being on the team.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: That's all I needed to know. That's all I needed
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: to know. If it wasn't just like preseason and then,
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of see you later.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: Probably a bigger dude, too.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: To get a name like that? Yeah, probably. Absolutely.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: Preseason bettis.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: That doesn't.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: It doesn't come lightly.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, thanks, Doobie.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Great question.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Who was around the Mendenhall era? 2010. It was, yep.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: It was Mendenhall era.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: That was, yeah, the Super Bowl season against..
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: Now known terrorist, Rashard Mendenhall.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, he fumbled that one away.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: He fumbled a post, an acting career away, too. You
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: know what he's... You remember what he said, right?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: What a scumbag, dude. This guy said we shouldn't be
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: happy about Osama Bin Laden dying.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: What a piece of shit, dude.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: He's a person, just like you and me. So is
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. We shouldn't cheer Deshaun Watson getting hurt, just
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: like we shouldn't cheer Osama Bin Laden getting killed.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, please, dude. Oh, please, dude.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: Lock them up.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: Lock them up.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Scumbags.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: If you guys tweet us the correct answer, we will
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: send you a koozie. Keep an eye out for the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: voicemail callers for next week. We got a special question
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: for all of our voicemail callers next week, as well
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: as an exciting guest coming on the show.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: So stay tuned.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: Go Steelers. Fuck the Bills. Pat, take us away.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: I fucking love you guys. I'm going to kill myself
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: if you guys still listen. I don't know if you
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: can say that, Pat.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: And can I get Pat from tarps off to the stage?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Pat from tarps off to the stage, please.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: All right, Tequila Cowboy! How do you stand? I'm going
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: to sing a song about the Stellars. Turn it up, DJ.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Digins here, we're facing a problem.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: We lost our head coach, Michael Tomlin.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: I know it was time for him.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: To go, but it still hurts.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: When he tells me we'll find another, I'll tell you
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: what's the real onion cutter.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: I'll miss Danny Smith and his.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: Bubble gum, but who's the one? So I drink, and
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I stink, and I pray.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: Mike McCarty! It's Mike McCarty! Greenfield! Greenfield! He's from down Greenfield!
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: Mike McCarty! His name's Mike McCarty! From any sandwich! Double
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: meat and egg, please!
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: So I drink, and I smeg, Donna Dale's Mike McCarthy.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: It's Mike McCarthy.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: Greenville, Greenville.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: From over there in Greenville.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: I didn't care about anything but kids.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: Lately I can't help but to ponder How long.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 4: Must we wait here for Rogers?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: I thought him and Big Mike were tight as hell Like.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: Mikey's belt Rogers, Mason, Howard, I don't care. I want
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: a long party while Cam's here.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: If Mike gets TJ a ring, I'll get on my.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: Knees if that's his thing.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: So I drank.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: And I snick and I brained.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: Mike McCartney! It's Mike McCartney! Greenfield! Greenfield! He's from Donnie Greenfield!
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 10: Mike McCartney!
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: His name's Mike McCartney! My man, he's sandwiched! Double meat
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: and eggs, please!
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: So I drink, and I smoke, Donnie Jagoffs! Mike McCartney.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: It's Mike McCartney. Greenville, Greenville. That day from that Greenville.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 9: I didn't care about anything but a Super Bowl.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 6: You can't take me out of the scene. I've got
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: the spellers. They leave their address.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 11: I can tell it.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 6: Get your fucking hands off me. I did my fucking job.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care.