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Kent Hovind, Standing For Truth, VEKL, Praise I Am, Irenic Pelagian, Nephilim Free, Brett Keane · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  All right, folks, Kent hovind here on April 26th, I think
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  Tuesday the 2022. I'ma Tanya been paralyzed for 23
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  years, neck down wheelchair. You were in the house that over
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  at on Highway, Cindy, Cindy sold it without even telling you
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  guys, right? Yes.
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  And you had to move out. Then after you moved out you and
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  your husband came up here, we've been friends for a long time.
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  I've been here, then she came over and tried to collect rent.
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  Yes, absolutely my husband, slammed the door in her face and
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  told her she had to eat and then she found out some old charge
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  from years ago that some people stupid thing that and so she
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  turned him in for not registering when he came to
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  Alabama, even though he's got the resident here and had him
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  arrested. What would you like to say to
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  Cindy? If you could, I don't know, evil
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  your varying areas, very evil person and and God will God
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  don't like evil and you will take care of you on Judgment
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  Day. I feel terrible for what
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  happened. I mean we've tried to help you
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  guys. All we can, but quadriplegic
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  thrown out of the house and then had your husband arrested for
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  absolutely no reason whatsoever. Anyway, So what other things
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  would you like to let the world know that this this and he's
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  calling me all kinds of names? You doing all kinds of
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  interviews about me, how bad I am.
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  People just don't know her since not a good person Lana, she was
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  for the first two years. We were married.
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  I don't know what happened. Flip the switch or something.
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  Oh no, they just by pulling. This will have people and she
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  might seem to have that. It's very sad and depressed so
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  she's not happy. So she doesn't anyone?
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  To be happy, right? I see that revengeful to
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  eventful there? Yeah.
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  Yes. Like, she, he running around
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  taking pictures of my husband everywhere.
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  Everywhere he went, he went to the marathon.
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  She was at the marathon 10 20 feet away taken snapping photos
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  of them. Why?
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  I don't know. I don't know.
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  He never asked me. Never cared.
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  We can think it. We just thought she was crazy.
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  Crazy. Well the house that you were
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  renting was really bad shape and you guys are thinking about
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  buying it off of her. You had it appraised and they
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  said, it's a termite Mound. Burn it down?
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  Yeah, it's going to, they said it's a teardown, it's a
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  teardown. So then she sold it instead to
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  the guy across the street. The county commissioner who
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  helped us find the property and was it I thought it was a friend
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  I guess he was, he's upset, I haven't talked to him and say
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  here, what's he upset about? Never told me.
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  Okay, so she comes. Be anywhere.
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  I feel terrible for what you did and I wish that I wish it would
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  just stop, but she won't. She's she told this Anglican
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  priest that she was going to get me for everything I have.
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  And, and then she flipped her switch, it started boohoo crying
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  about a mean, I am I did not body slam her.
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  I did not hurt her in any way. You guys have known me for years
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  and anyway we want to help and I feel terrible, your husband
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  arrested for Really no reason just to be vengeful.
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  So very, very okay. Well, I feel bad.
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  You have been a great blessing to us glad we could help out
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  anyway. Okay well good, well folks,
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  sorry for the drama. Detroit needs to be exposed.
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  Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate that.
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  All right. Hold on, let me you gotta, we
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  gotta meet our mics, whenever it's not doing her.
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  Wear headphones are gets bad Echo.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keen from God TV radio.
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  I hope you're all having a wonderful day out there.
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  We have Kent hovind with us. And what we just watched was a
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  clip of him having a discussion with a woman by the name of
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  Tanya. Would you like to tell the rest
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  of it? Sure.
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  Yeah. So take a little minute here
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  brother but Where do I start my ex wife, Cindy, who's made 106
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  videos now about me, trying to defame my character and destroy
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  this ministry and get everything we've got.
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  And she's clearly said she bought three houses in the area
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  with money, her dad, gave her a house in California, she sold it
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  and then bought three houses here.
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  Okay? We help fix up two of them quite
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  a bit, so we could use internet of the told about that story
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  already and she threw our Tech Guy Steve out after going a
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  standing in the street video and him and picture.
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  Taking pictures. Now, Tanya said you were doing
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  the same with her husband John to make the story.
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  Just a little more clear John and Tanya I've known them for
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  three or four or five years, I guess they've lived here, he had
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  pretty both, had a pretty rough past.
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  She was on a date with a guy who tried to drag her over the backs
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  into the back seat of the car and broke her neck. 23 years
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  ago, she's been a quadriplegic for 23 years and husband John
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  struck with her all the time. Well, John, it was having a fair
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  with some Woman before that, even in Washington state and
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  they were taken drugs and living together for the weekend and
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  afterwards, she filed charges on him for rape, which is not true
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  at all, but he became on the Washington State sex offender
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  list or something. And so then Washington state
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  after X number of years. They say forget it, it's gone.
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  Well John and Tanya we're renting the house.
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  The other one of the other houses that Cindy owned right
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  around the corner from us, about two blocks away and we spent a
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  lot of time over there helping them, I'm not even sure that
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  They're born again saved. But we tried to, you know,
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  witness to them and a friend to them.
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  So Cindy found out that John moved to Alabama and we're
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  living in her house. She sold.
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  She was they were living in Cindy's house for years.
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  She's sold the house out from under them and gave them 30 days
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  to get out with this. Lady's paralyzed neck down for
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  23 years and they offered to buy the house for even more money,
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  but Cindy wouldn't do it. She just wanted to get back at
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  me, I think. Okay, Does anything she can to
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  hurt hoeven and hurt the ministry here.
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  So we help them move to another house up the road about two
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  miles and they were living there.
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  And apparently the anyway, the police came and arrested John
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  because he had not come. When he came to Alabama, he
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  didn't tell them, hey, I'm a sex offender from 25 years ago, even
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  though it's all dropped or low amount of lift.
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  Alabama says, if you're ever on that lift, you got to notify us
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  apparently, well, he didn't do that.
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  I didn't know I had to So they put him in jail for over the
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  weekend. This is a couple weeks ago.
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  So now his wife completely paralyzed is what does she do?
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  So my wife and I went up there at every six hours or eight
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  hours. I lifted her out of the
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  wheelchair, put her in the bed, my wife would do the change, the
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  diapers, and all that kind of stuff that you have to do for a
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  completely paralyzed person and including at 2:00 in the
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  morning. So we until and then one of our
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  guys here, paid the money to get Chris out of jail, so you can go
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  back and take care of his wife as he's done for Any three
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  years. So this is just so unnecessary.
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  It certainly appears like just plain evil Vengeance so I
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  interviewed Tanya laying there in the bed sits on you.
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  What do you think about Sandy? What would you tell her?
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  She said, she's this is evil. She's wrong.
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  She'll never admit that though. She have some kind of excuse of
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  why she did it but she just doing anything she can to get to
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  get back at me for no reason. I've been nothing but kind to
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  her. We're wonderful marriage for two
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  years. She worked here for a year
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  before we got married. I thought I knew her, she doing
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  our groundskeeping. Doing a wonderful job, had a
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  part for the Lord. And after two years, something
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  snapped, well you've seen it and then she nine months after I was
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  trying to get away from her, she's trying to steal my phone,
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  she claimed her body, slammed her, and I did not, I still got
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  to go to court over all that, it's already cost a fortune.
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  So I just thought you'd want to see what Tanya thought and Cindy
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  has way across the line as far as defamation of character.
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  And I've got some lawyers just saying, you just let us know
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  when brother hovind push the button and we'll go.
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  So hope she just simply shuts up and goes away and gets a job and
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  earn some money, and just be a normal.
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  Normal American citizen and leave me alone.
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  Okay. But so far she hasn't done that
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  hundred and six videos about me. Here's a couple things now
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  because John had an old motor home that he and has paralyzed
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  wife, we help them load that up and get out of the house.
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  We spent the last what week over there, cleaning out the house
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  where they were just left, They had a bunch of animals, pigs,
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  and chickens and goats. And what do you do?
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  So we bought them all off of them for our farm.
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  So if you want to help us get back out of debt for buying, two
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  thousand bucks worth of stuff that would help.
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  Anyway. So we spent two thousand bucks
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  to buy all their animals to bring them down here so they
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  don't have to haul them up to up to Northeast where they're going
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  now. So, but in order to do that, he
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  had a special Dodge Caravan custom-made for wheelchair
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  wheelchair accessible van that Left here.
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  It's in our driveway right now, please.
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  Somebody wants to drive a van from Lenox, Alabama up to North.
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  New England, just to get the because now all he's got is that
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  old motor home to take to go to the store and get stuff for his
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  wife. And it's just Cindy, has created
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  an enormous problem for this couple completely out of
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  Vengeance to me. I think that's all I can see.
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  So, she sold the house out from under them, made a move and then
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  reported him to the police and they arrested him.
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  Now, he had to he said finally he said I'm getting out of here.
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  I got to get away from that woman.
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  So they're moved ever left a couple days ago going slowly
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  back up toward New England. It's so sad, he's moving away.
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  So if you want to drive the van back up that's fine.
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  If you want to help us recover recoup for we help you in every
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  way we could, you know with his vehicle to get him on the road,
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  but we still got the Dodge Caravan needs to get taken back
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  up to a New England, so that's it.
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  Brett, I wish I don't understand how she can do this.
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  Somebody like that in a wheelchair.
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  I don't understand what her thinking is, is it so much
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  hatred for me and for what I did nothing but time to her.
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  Okay, well, any questions you got bread or any people want to
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  hear anymore? That's the basic story about
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  Tanya there you saw her and laying in the bed.
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  Well, I'm still up for having the discussion with the, I don't
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  know. Him personally, you obviously
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  know him Freddy if he wants to tell his part and as I have
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  said, many times because she spent so many days and hours
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  telling her story against you, I feel that it's appropriate that
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  you get what? Overtime or witnesses that you
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  want to bring forward. And I'm willing to keep it open
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  on my channel for that because I feel like it would be unfair
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  just for one side of the story to be told.
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  But I'll be honest with you. The more I've been seeing more
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  and more witnesses coming from your end.
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  And every time she claims that she's going to bring someone
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  forward, they either disappear. She doesn't know how to reach
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  them or they say to her according to her.
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  Well, I don't want to get involved, so what The deal.
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  I got to ask. We got mr.
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  Praise, I am here. Hello praise.
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  Hey, Brad. Thanks for having me and good to
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  see you Doctor Joven. Hey, great.
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  I didn't catch the name. Who's this is praying arm?
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  He's a good guy. Praise, I am well, okay, never
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  met anybody with that name. Go ahead, go ahead.
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  Well, actually a while ago, I used to host shows 4 sot about a
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  year ago on my channel and you were, you were coming on there
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  frequently. So yeah, I hurt.
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  It was pretty awesome. Is lot of fun during that time.
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  Well, thank you. I had kind of a question like
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  you don't have to answer this because you know, defamation
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  stuff like that but there's this assumption going under the mat.
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  Guess there's a little bit of an echo there between from Kent,
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  are you able to see a microphone button way at the bottom of the
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  screen? Said my tech guys going to mute
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  me while you're talking so that may help.
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  Okay. Well in the future, if, if you
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  take guys like using the restroom or getting a drink,
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  there's a button right down below.
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  At the microphone icon. Eat it.
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  He's got, he's got it under control.
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  Go ahead. Go ahead mr.
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  Praise. So there's this allegation going
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  around, the, how you were complicit with a pedophile in
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  some, like, within your dinosaur park, or something like that.
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  And I think, I mean, maybe you can maybe and give us some
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  insight on this, where you just giving this guy a chance.
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  Like, they had some a shady past or something, or you, did you
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  even know and you don't have to answer that to if So, if you
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  don't feel comfortable that, I understand that this is
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  something that I actually have quite a few times, she brought
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  this up on the show, go ahead. Yeah, I have nothing to hide all
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  kinds of people come here from all kinds of walks of life.
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  As I mentioned, you know, Disney doesn't do a background check
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  and neither does McDonald's or Walmart when you walk in.
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  I do have two friends actually that have I think been very
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  wrongfully convicted, once you get put on that list as a sex
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  offender for children, you, it's a stigma that lasts forever.
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  Forever. And there's no that I've no
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  them, they're Godly men. They did not do what they're
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  accused up and so I'm going to have them on the program here
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  and when that when they come back next time to come through
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  town and tell their side of the story.
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  But yes, anybody's welcome here, including both of those guys
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  that I know very well and I love them.
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  They love the Lord and they're not guilty of what they're
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  accused of, but that's the, that's the ultimate way to
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  destroy. Somebody's character is to
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  accuse them of, you know, sex offense with a child, which they
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  did not do. So yeah, they're welcome to come
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  any time. No, never a problem here at the
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  camp. Any buddy causes a problem here.
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  We'll take care of it in short order, so it won't help me.
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  Nothing goes wrong here like that, but that's another example
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  of a way somebody can try to slander my character or slander
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  the ministry here, just with something like that, they accuse
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  Jesus Jesus and Disciples of all kinds of things, you know.
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  So it's just standard. It comes with it.
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  When somebody hates God and hates God's work, they're
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  willing to lie. We're seeing that clearly With
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  my case now just plain lie and Clay my body slammed her when I
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  did not. So what we'll get into more of
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  that later but no, yes, friends of people are welcome to come
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  here. We have people come here that
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  are, I suppose have taken drugs in their life or we don't
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  they're not allowed to do any of that here.
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  You get one hint of anybody. Taking drugs, or drinking
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  alcohol, even even a beer, you're going out the door.
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  So that's our policy here at dinosaur Adventure Land.
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  What they want to do with their their place across the street,
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  you know? Across town or across the state,
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  that's up to them. But nobody's going to work here,
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  that's got that problem. Okay, thank you so much, dr.
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  Hogan got somebody here named mr.
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  Ray, this is I want to see the dinosaur park so bad.
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  The comment it is amazing here brother.
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  We've had I give tours today as look a little bit of a mess.
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  My dinosaur Adventure Land shirt.
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  We and kind of big rainstorm especially after the rainstorm
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  my to, or outside to are so fun in the mud puddles and grounding
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  everybody. And I say you want to take a
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  real tour or the grandma tour. They almost always vote for the
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  real torso. It's fun on the side by sides so
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  yeah, come see the place. It's amazing.
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  We had four more baptized today. We just want to win souls.
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  Like Jesus told us to do and Influence People for him.
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  There's nothing Shady going on here.
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  We just an old-fashioned Baptist preacher who with their love for
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  the Lord and want to serve him. We can continue to talk about
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  these different things. Just yesterday, we had a show
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  though, if you don't mind me, bringing something up, my
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  co-host did a show on is Jesus. God, and also, he dealt with an
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  atheist who claims that rich people are people with any kind
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  of wealth are not allowed to go to heaven and we obviously
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  argued against it. But what's your views on that?
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  Well, the two different topics There is Jesus.
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  God certainly claim to be even in a very beginning Genesis.
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  The first couple chapters. Let us make man in our image.
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  Why is it plural All Through the Bible that teaches a Doctrine
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  called the Trinity. God is father, son.
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  Holy Spirit, one God in three persons, there's all kinds of
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  ways to try to illustrate that that I think the human brain
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  probably can't absorb, you know, God because our brains too
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  little but I am one person I'm a father a brother, a husband and
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  a grandson a grand. Other or they're just want to
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  me, but I have several different roles.
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  That's one way to try to explain maybe part of the godhead as its
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  called. I have a body and I also have a
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  soul and a spirit plants. Only have a body animals, have a
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  body, and a consciousness of life, will call that the spirit
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  and man has a body, a consciousness of life, and a
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  consciousness of God that no animal seems to have.
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  So there's three parts to us, is it just there's only one person,
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  but three distinct Parts, Body Soul and Spirit your brain might
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  be another example you can think.
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  About things. But you can also think about
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  what you're thinking about and pass judgment on your own
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  thoughts and say that was a bad thought.
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  Well, how is it? You have one brain or to this
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  one but it's doing two things. At the same time.
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  Your brain is keeping all kinds of subconscious things going
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  that you cannot control. Like your digestion, your
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  healing posture stuff like that that you can't control.
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  So yeah, you have just one brain but there's three parts to it.
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  You have space which has three dimensions length, width and
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  height. It's only one thing called space
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  but it's got three. Mentions time has three
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  dimensions past present future. You can't have one by itself,
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  matter has solid liquid gas. So there are many illustrations
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  that try to kind of beat around the edges of what exactly is the
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  Trinity? All I can tell you is this book,
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  clearly teaches. Jesus was God In the Flesh, he
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  claimed to be God, Jesus said, before, Abraham was I am, and
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  they took up stones to Stone him because they knew God told
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  Moses. Moses said God, who should I
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  say? Who can I tell, Pharaoh, sent
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  me. God said, you tell pharaoh, I am
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  sent you. That's his name, I am.
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  And so when Jesus said before Abraham was I am, he was
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  definitely claiming to be God. I mean, he walked on water, he
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  raised the dead, he healed, the sick, what else would you like
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  him to do to demonstrate it? This is God Almighty In the
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  Flesh. I got to say this, probably one
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  of the best explanations I've heard in my entire 45 years of
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  living and how that can be explained.
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  What do you think? Praise am?
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  Was at this? Fantastic?
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  Yeah, was I really enjoyed that? So I can show you a hundred
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  Bible verses that clearly teach the doctrine of the Trinity.
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  The fact that man cannot understand it does not mean it's
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  not true Briana. Nobody on this planet knows what
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  gravity is. What is gravity?
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  Give me a jar of it paint it red.
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  Nobody knows what it is. I can show you what it does.
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  I can tell you the velocity acceleration, due to gravity,
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  9.8 meters per second or 32 feet per second per second.
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  But what is it? Nobody knows what light is.
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  Give me a gallon of light, please, you know what is it?
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  Know what it does, we do a lot of things with it, refracted
• 19:57
  diffuse, it reflected etcetera, but what is it?
• 20:00
  So we don't have to understand things to, they can be real
• 20:03
  without our understanding. And so I think God all through
• 20:06
  the Bible, it clearly teaches a Doctrine called the Trinity.
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  First, John 5:7 in the King James says these three are one.
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  Father son, Holy Spirit. There, one open, new Bible
• 20:19
  versions have taken that out. Compare your King.
• 20:21
  James first, John 5:7 to the other versions, you'll say.
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  What they left off, half the verse.
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  Yeah, because they don't believe in the Trinity.
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  So as I cover that on video number seven of my series here
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  somewhere, here we go. My creation seminar series 50
• 20:36
  bucks for the whole thing, it's 18 hours, long.
• 20:39
  Video 7 is actually a DVD. Sevens, two DVDs questions and
• 20:42
  answers. And one of the questions is, you
• 20:44
  know, what about the Trinity? I cover all kinds of topics on
• 20:49
  there and why King James version of the Bible?
• 20:51
  As opposed to the rest of them. I think that's where God
• 20:54
  preserved his words. That's another story but anyway.
• 20:57
  Thank you gonna hook me up with some images that have some of
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  the DVD and imagery on it. So I can put it across the
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  flashing, across the screen for people and all that, you know?
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  That would be cool. All right.
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  The second question was and I and I argued obviously against
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  the non-believers, the non-believer was trying to claim
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  because there's an incident, where a rich man says, what do I
• 21:21
  do in order to be able to follow you Christ?
• 21:23
  And then he says, give away all your Your things.
• 21:26
  So the atheist figures are Christians, ought to go, plane
• 21:28
  broke obviously. And not even, you know, maybe
• 21:31
  live in a mud hut or something. I don't know if their logic is
• 21:34
  on that, but I see all throughout the Old Testament
• 21:37
  that there's men of God, where God gave them great wealth, he
• 21:40
  gave them wisdom, gave them all that they needed in order to do
• 21:43
  a Ministry. What your thoughts are now?
• 21:47
  Well, there's nothing wrong with having money.
• 21:49
  What's wrong? Is when money has you?
• 21:51
  And that was the problem with that rich, man.
• 21:53
  The story, then dug in the Gospels.
• 21:55
  Money. Had him more than he had money.
• 21:59
  And so he said, Lord, what good thing shall I do to have eternal
• 22:02
  life? Well, I'll slow down, right?
• 22:04
  There's the problem. He's thinking like, Cain and
• 22:06
  Cain and Abel. In Genesis for Cain brought his
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  fruit, his vegetables and said God look what I did for you.
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  God wouldn't accept it Abel, brought a sacrifice, a lamb, God
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  accepted that and all through the Bible.
• 22:17
  You see that teaching? That salvation is a gift from
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  God to us. It's not something you work for
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  or earn I preached. I'm doing a series on my YouTube
• 22:26
  channel, Kent, hovind official called.
• 22:28
  They got what they wanted, but they lost what they had and last
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  week, or the week before, I did one on Cain and Abel Cain.
• 22:34
  He got what he wanted, but he lost what he had seemed.
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  I want to go through more details.
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  I don't have my computer pictures in front of me now, but
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  this rich man in the gospel stories, he was trying to work
• 22:45
  his way to heaven. And when Jesus said he said,
• 22:48
  what good thing shall I do to have eternal life, First of all,
• 22:52
  he's got it. All backwards right there.
• 22:54
  Jesus said obey the Commandments, which by the way.
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  Nobody's ever done Jesus. I think we're trying to point
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  out. Look, you're a sinner if you
• 23:01
  could do be perfect. All your life and never sin, you
• 23:04
  would need the Lord nobody's ever done that though.
• 23:06
  All have sinned and come short of the glory of God, everybody.
• 23:09
  So the rich man said, Rich Young Ruler said to Jesus, which
• 23:13
  Commandments am I supposed to keep?
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  And it's interesting. Jesus listed six of them.
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  He started the last six he left off the first four.
• 23:21
  The first four of the Ten Commandments deal with man's
• 23:23
  relation to God, the last six deals with man's relation to,
• 23:27
  man, you know, don't steal excetera, that's things you do
• 23:29
  to people. So the first four are man to
• 23:31
  God, Jesus left goes off. He, he listed the last six
• 23:35
  Commandments and the young man said, I've kept all these from
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  my youth up. Well, I doubt that, but let's
• 23:40
  assume let's assume that it's true.
• 23:42
  He never broke those six commandment.
• 23:43
  Let's assume. He said, where do I still lack?
• 23:46
  He knew he was missing something.
• 23:48
  And Jesus said, go sell you sell, what you have?
• 23:50
  Give to the poor. Come follow me.
• 23:53
  You don't have to sell what you have and give to the poor and
• 23:54
  follow Jesus, to go to heaven. But this rich man, Jesus was
• 23:57
  trying to get this Rich Young Ruler to see you love money,
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  more than anything son. You don't have to give sell your
• 24:04
  money as sell your stuff and give the money away to the poor
• 24:06
  is not necessary to go to heaven.
• 24:08
  But Jesus was getting to this guy in this particular case,
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  because that's where his heart was, where your treasure is,
• 24:13
  that's where your heart will be also, and he loved money, more
• 24:17
  than God. And so, Jesus were pointing that
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  out quickly. Now, I think if you do love God,
• 24:21
  you will want to help people in. Need, I love God.
• 24:25
  And that's why we spent a fortune, helping John, and Tanya
• 24:27
  move your get away from Cindy, okay, sad.
• 24:30
  But we are okay, we spent a bunch of money.
• 24:33
  To help them get away and they're going to spend more.
• 24:35
  Now, we got his get his van for you up there to New England,
• 24:37
  somehow. So, yeah, we, well, we want to
• 24:41
  help people and so I think that's normal and natural for a
• 24:44
  Christian. If you really have the love of
• 24:46
  God and you, you want to help others.
• 24:48
  So the Rich Young Ruler. He loved his money too much.
• 24:50
  You know tell whoever said you got to sell everything they're
• 24:53
  not understanding that that story.
• 24:56
  We got another person who's wanting to come in.
• 24:58
  I have no idea who they are. So I'm going to put up my demon
• 25:02
  blocker. That's what we call it.
• 25:04
  There we go. There's no.
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  All right. How you doing?
• 25:08
  James is tired. I'm doing well, I don't know
• 25:13
  that we've chatted before. Typically I do my own stuff on
• 25:17
  the James's tired Channel. I can show you my face on camera
• 25:21
  though that way. Hey missus awesome bread.
• 25:23
  Now he's legit hes awesome. Yeah.
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  Well you can own demon block me. If you would like there's my
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  face. All right, there we go.
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  I appreciate that. James since praise.
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  I am gives you credentials. That's all that's required.
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  I talked to so many people. It's hard to be able to keep
• 25:39
  track. Oh yeah, I apologize.
• 25:42
  No, I get it. You know you don't know when
• 25:45
  somebody is going to spam your show or do something to try to
• 25:47
  disrupt your so I get it. Now, Kent.
• 25:53
  There's there's a lot of people out there who say they want to
• 25:55
  help people and that they want to love people and they want to
• 25:58
  do ministry but you are one of the people that actually went
• 26:02
  through with what your words? Where you actually went to
• 26:05
  action on this, I know what the story is and how you became a
• 26:10
  Christian, but what was it? That really said, man, I got to
• 26:13
  go all out on this. I don't know.
• 26:17
  That was one single event 53 years.
• 26:21
  I gave my heart to the Lord got saved started going to a little
• 26:24
  independent temperamental fundamental right-wing, radical
• 26:26
  chicken-eating, Baptist Church and my pastor gave me a cassette
• 26:30
  tapes, five or six, sometimes 10 every week to listen as I drove
• 26:34
  my Volkswagen back and forth to school.
• 26:36
  And I got preach 2015 15 times a week.
• 26:41
  You know most people get preached once a week and some
• 26:43
  even then they miss church once in a while.
• 26:45
  I really began reading my Bible I read it cover to cover.
• 26:47
  When I got done I read it again and read it again and then I got
• 26:50
  the Bible. On record and began to listen to
• 26:53
  it. Alexander Scourby the King James
• 26:55
  Bible on 16 RPM and I've accidentally had it on 33 one
• 27:00
  day so I can still understand it.
• 27:02
  So it's double speed. Then I tried it on 45 RPM, you
• 27:05
  can read through the whole Bible with him, read him pronouncing,
• 27:07
  all the words and your eyes are following.
• 27:09
  See if you're if you're hearing it and looking at it, you gain a
• 27:12
  lot more, its way to Education Works, but you can go through
• 27:14
  the whole Bible in 24 hours. So I really began reading and
• 27:18
  soaking my brain in that book, while I was in School.
• 27:21
  I was busy. There are two, you know, tennis
• 27:23
  team and a chess club and all that stuff, but and vice
• 27:25
  president of the senior class. So it was a great experience for
• 27:29
  me, just reading the word and it just it got ingrained in me as
• 27:33
  part of my character. Now, when I start to do
• 27:35
  something wrong, a Bible verse pops into my mind.
• 27:38
  Well, the reason it can do that because I planted it, there
• 27:40
  people are never read their Bible, they don't have that
• 27:42
  advantage of, you know, like the demon block our you've got, you
• 27:45
  know, it you'll have a sin blocker where you've read enough
• 27:47
  of the Bible that you can hear God speaking.
• 27:49
  No, no, no, don't do that. Well, like tattoos, the Bible
• 27:53
  says don't print any marks in your flesh.
• 27:55
  That was a commandment for the Jews and I'm Norwegian.
• 27:57
  But it's still obviously the fact that God said don't do that
• 28:00
  indicates. That's how he feels about it.
• 28:02
  So when my buddies were getting tattoos I said I'm not going to
• 28:05
  do that. I don't think it's evil and
• 28:07
  wicked and wrong. I think it's just dumb but and
• 28:11
  it certainly it's God has against the guns against some
• 28:13
  things are minor summer. Major, it's probably a real
• 28:15
  minor thing. But so if you have that send
• 28:19
  Blocker in your head from just reading the Bible a lot who when
• 28:23
  you see somebody in need. Wow.
• 28:24
  I want to help Help. So it's kind of became ingrained
• 28:27
  in me for the last 53 years. That's why dinosaur adventure
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  lines. Open for free people, come here
• 28:33
  Saturday with a damn fish for free.
• 28:34
  Lot of people in the community come here to fish.
• 28:35
  A lot of really poor people. Come here, catch fish, take it
• 28:38
  home. That's their that's their food.
• 28:40
  They count on us and we paid to the stock all the Lakes.
• 28:43
  You know, we pay the electric bill for all the bills around
• 28:46
  here. So we really want to help.
• 28:47
  I think we're trying to put our money where our mouth is and
• 28:50
  it's sad that some people Don't like that.
• 28:53
  Okay, move, I'm sorry for the issues that you've had, but you
• 28:57
  are doing a great thing for all these people, and all these
• 28:59
  people who are suffering and had problems in their past, to let
• 29:03
  folks in and give them that. I wish we had more folks like
• 29:06
  yourself up in Missouri. We have a lot of people have
• 29:09
  issues and not a whole lot of people around to do the help and
• 29:12
  on that, I got to use the restroom real quick, but I got
• 29:15
  to ask you a favor while I leave you guys in here.
• 29:17
  For a moment, I've been asking pleading with Donnie.
• 29:22
  Inning for truth to allow me to do an interview with him.
• 29:25
  He keeps saying yes but doesn't do it.
• 29:27
  Grab him by his ears, some time and make him do it.
• 29:31
  I'll be right back. Also James inspired.
• 29:34
  See once I know Brett give him an interview I think.
• 29:39
  What I looks like James is drinking from a coffee cup.
• 29:42
  James, I don't know if you know this, but if you drink coffee,
• 29:45
  your babies will be born, naked, illiterate and upside down, are
• 29:50
  you sure you never have? Never heard that?
• 29:53
  I taught biology 15 years. I delivered one of my kids at
• 29:55
  home just to make sure naked. Illiterate upside down, people
• 30:00
  are warned, people younger and life in a.
• 30:01
  Don't drink that coffee though. I had to go get your questions.
• 30:07
  If you wouldn't mind a drink, what do you do?
• 30:09
  James. Tell me about yourself and your
• 30:10
  channel. Oh, on my channel, my interview
• 30:13
  atheist, Christians Muslims, and we just have friendly
• 30:16
  conversations. That's pretty much the gist of
• 30:20
  it. I had a few questions for you if
• 30:22
  you didn't mind. Oh, go for it.
• 30:24
  Anything now, this is kind of odd ball left field, but my
• 30:28
  audience kind of focuses sometimes on Islam.
• 30:31
  What is your thoughts on Islam? The Quran or Muhammad?
• 30:35
  Kind of, let you land wherever you want to in there.
• 30:38
  Well, I have a book that we sell in our bookstore.
• 30:43
  Let's see. Why I'm not a Muslim that's
• 30:51
  about nine bucks. What I go by, what does a
• 30:55
  person? What does their leader teach?
• 30:57
  What do they believe? Okay, I could probably agree
• 31:01
  with Muslims on many things, but I would strongly disagree on
• 31:04
  quite a few things. I think they're part of the cane
• 31:08
  religion. They're trying to work their way
• 31:10
  to heaven. It didn't work for a cane.
• 31:12
  It's never worked for anybody all through history.
• 31:15
  Most of them are very dedicated. You can't question their sin.
• 31:17
  Ricky and their dedication. I mean they really go all out
• 31:20
  but so did Cain. He brought fruit and vegetables.
• 31:24
  God, look what I did for you. So I think the Muslims are going
• 31:27
  to be very disappointed when they get before, God and
• 31:29
  realize. Wow, that's not how you going to
• 31:31
  heaven. Their leader caught them
• 31:34
  completely wrong. If you study the history of it,
• 31:37
  how it started. I mean you just take it from the
• 31:38
  from day one on and there many people.
• 31:41
  That's not my ministry as, you know, dealing with that topic
• 31:44
  but I studied it carefully to say, what do I believe?
• 31:47
  You know, these folks are most of them, I think, are genuine
• 31:50
  sincere, and they've been taught completely wrong and they need
• 31:53
  to stop and completely rethink their religion.
• 31:56
  Most of them are afraid to do that.
• 31:57
  They're afraid to even consider. Maybe I'm Wrong most atheists
• 32:01
  are afraid to consider. That Evolution isn't true
• 32:05
  because there's only two choices.
• 32:07
  Somebody made the world or the world made itself, nobody's
• 32:11
  thought of a third choice. And they're so afraid of the
• 32:14
  idea that somebody made it, they will cling to that dumb idea
• 32:17
  that the world made itself for no reason and evolution.
• 32:21
  And so, most Muslims that I've met and talked to quite a few of
• 32:24
  them, they're really afraid to question their own religion.
• 32:28
  Well, maybe they may get their head cut off to make it
• 32:30
  ostracized by their family, you know, they was all A social
• 32:34
  pressures put on them from their fellow Muslims which is sad.
• 32:39
  I mean if somebody quits Christianity, they're still
• 32:41
  welcome to come here. I'll be their friend, try to
• 32:43
  talk them back into it, but I'm not going to not going to cut
• 32:46
  their head off. So I think that it's sad that so
• 32:49
  many people have been, I think completely deceived by that
• 32:52
  teaching and the teaching is completely wrong on quite a few
• 32:55
  serious thing. Biggest one is, how do you go to
• 32:57
  heaven? The only two choices to go to
• 33:00
  heaven. You got to work your way there
• 33:03
  or somebody else. Does it for you?
• 33:05
  Jesus Paid for mine. I'm going to heaven.
• 33:07
  It's not because I'm good, you kidding.
• 33:09
  I'm forgiven. That's why.
• 33:12
  Yeah, one thing I always found fascinating is they have a
• 33:15
  completely different conception of Jesus?
• 33:17
  Where's and us, as Christians, have the fact that he's not only
• 33:22
  savior but he's God. Where is in?
• 33:24
  They treat him just as a prophet and they actually kind of
• 33:27
  rewrite the text, and change his character.
• 33:31
  I do appreciate you. Giving me your thoughts on
• 33:33
  Islam. Yeah, many.
• 33:36
  Many people. That's their whole Ministry of
• 33:37
  trying to reach them. This is Damian, don't we have
• 33:40
  another book in the bookstore? We have a few books on the
• 33:44
  topic. You can call 855 big Dino
• 33:46
  extension one, rock to the Secretary of Monday or come
• 33:49
  visit, dinosaur Adventure, Land in Linux, Alabama.
• 33:52
  And come see our amazing bookstore.
• 33:53
  We got, I got a whole Shelf full of books on the topic, but I'm
• 33:57
  busy on creation. Evolution, I don't have time to
• 33:59
  fight every other religion in the world, we do have books
• 34:01
  quite a few. Why?
• 34:02
  I'm not a Muslim is one of them. Why?
• 34:04
  I'm not a kamba light. That would be Church of Christ.
• 34:07
  Why? I'm not a new age Global
• 34:08
  citizen. Why I'm not a Catholic.
• 34:10
  Okay, why I'm not Charismatic speaking in tongues, why?
• 34:14
  I'm not a Seventh-Day Adventist, why?
• 34:16
  I'm not a Mormon. Okay, answers, you're my
• 34:19
  Catholic friends. So I think I just want to know
• 34:22
  the truth and whoever's got it. I'll take it.
• 34:25
  If it turns out. The Islam is right.
• 34:27
  I'll take it. But I've seen way too many
• 34:30
  things. Seriously wrong with that
• 34:31
  religion. I can't follow it.
• 34:33
  They're all okay. Kent.
• 34:35
  You should do one says called, I love science but not
• 34:38
  Scientology. One in there.
• 34:47
  Evolutions, not science. Brett, you wanted to talk about
• 34:52
  Freddy, right? Yeah.
• 34:54
  Freddy was wanting to get involved, or he was wanting to
• 34:57
  talk. Is he around or available?
• 34:59
  Well, Freddy is our cook. He does in the cabin right
• 35:01
  behind the church. He's got five kids.
• 35:03
  He's been here for six years, he hurt his back today, down at the
• 35:05
  lake with the kids swimming. So he's laying down, but plus
• 35:09
  he's going to be a key witness. If this has to go, if Cindy
• 35:12
  doesn't drop this case, this is going to go to trial over her
• 35:16
  claiming a body slam her and it's going to it's going to cost
• 35:19
  her a fortune. When she loses this case, okay?
• 35:22
  I wish you just drop it right now and forget it.
• 35:24
  We would forget it and go off but Fred is going to be one of
• 35:26
  the witnesses. He took her to the chiropractor
• 35:29
  shooter would have been going to the chiropractor, had back
• 35:30
  trouble for four years, and she went to the chiropractor in
• 35:33
  Pensacola after this supposed body slam Fred, he drove her
• 35:37
  down there to the chiropractor, Pensacola about 60 miles away.
• 35:41
  And she said, Freddy should I tell him?
• 35:42
  I was body slam. And he said, well, not if it's
• 35:45
  not true, she came out of the chiropractor said, well, I told
• 35:49
  him, I was body slam, so it's in the record.
• 35:50
  Now, this whole thing is premeditated to try to get back
• 35:53
  at me for something, so he will testify exactly what he heard
• 35:58
  and so he can't he can't right now plus it's still going to
• 36:01
  court may be unless she drops it.
• 36:03
  So yeah. Freddy will be one because every
• 36:05
  one of many people have going to come in and testify this trial
• 36:08
  May last 200 years. But I am not guilty.
• 36:10
  And I'm not about to bend down and take a punishment that I
• 36:14
  don't. Earth.
• 36:15
  If I do something wrong, I'll take it.
• 36:16
  She was wrong. That for every step of the way,
• 36:19
  she never admits that sad why I explained to her already.
• 36:24
  And I also talked a little bit about this in a video.
• 36:26
  I think that I showed you it, the the logic of the body slam
• 36:31
  thing. For those out there that don't
• 36:32
  know what a body slam is. It's when a wrestler picks
• 36:36
  another wrestler up above their head and slams him down on their
• 36:40
  back. Now how long ago did she
• 36:42
  allegedly say this because I'm thinking you Be about 68 or 69
• 36:46
  at this time right? Your whole life.
• 36:48
  I was her interval 68 years old and you've got a phone in your
• 36:53
  hand. All at the same time not even
• 36:55
  the Ultimate Warrior can pick a person up while having a
• 36:58
  recorder in their hand and doing that.
• 37:00
  So I don't I've brought it up with her and she describes it as
• 37:04
  being more of a like she lunged at you for the phone and you
• 37:08
  moved and put your hand up to block yourself.
• 37:11
  And then she tumbled down. I said ma'am, that is not a
• 37:14
  bomb. You slam, I assure you.
• 37:15
  If there was a body slam involved there, you wouldn't
• 37:19
  woke up a three days later if that actually could happen with
• 37:22
  a 68 year old man. So that's my Logic on it.
• 37:26
  It doesn't make sense to story that she tells them that the
• 37:30
  entire story is made up, okay? She was the aggressor the entire
• 37:34
  time she's trying to steal my phone.
• 37:36
  She said clearly, she wish I had it all recorded, I was told to
• 37:38
  record it by my lawyer. She you said I want to get that
• 37:42
  and she used God's name in vain. I'm gonna get that
• 37:43
  blankety-blank phone, break it in half and flush it down the
• 37:46
  toilet. I said Cindy I've been told I
• 37:48
  have to record. I was trying to leave.
• 37:50
  Okay she drove at me. I'd nearly broken my left arm at
• 37:53
  all. Still see the scar on there
• 37:55
  where that beam hit me right there.
• 37:57
  We were building the church building the cafeteria here.
• 38:00
  Big steel beams and one of them fell caught me on the arm as
• 38:02
  about a couple weeks before this event.
• 38:05
  So I got my very, very sore left arm.
• 38:06
  My right arms holding the phone. I'm right-handed, she Dives at
• 38:09
  me and I just pushed her off. Aside.
• 38:11
  She hits the Shelf hits the floor, nine months later.
• 38:14
  She files charges that I body slammed her.
• 38:17
  This is all to get money. I just worry.
• 38:20
  It's going to cost her everything.
• 38:21
  She's got. Okay?
• 38:23
  She's going to lose money on this one.
• 38:24
  I don't want that. I don't want this fight.
• 38:26
  I gave the gospel out today, LED people to the Lord.
• 38:28
  I just want to win souls and give tours of.
• 38:30
  Leave me alone, okay? I completely understand
• 38:35
  obviously there's going to still be some non believers out there
• 38:38
  running their mouth and trying to make up their own exaggerated
• 38:41
  story. That was one of the reasons why
• 38:44
  if you continue to bring people forward, I'll be more than happy
• 38:47
  to have them on the show. I have them talk about it and
• 38:50
  what they know about the case, because social media idiots, as
• 38:53
  you can, obviously, see, they're going to make up whatever they
• 38:56
  can because they got a chip on their shoulder because you teach
• 38:59
  against her Evolution, and their nonsense.
• 39:02
  I want to ruin people for that. That's terrible to want to ruin
• 39:06
  someone just because they have different ideas or thoughts and
• 39:09
  you do in an amine? Yeah.
• 39:12
  Well, this is there, they understand.
• 39:15
  The evolution is understand. I simply and sweetly and clearly
• 39:19
  destroy their theory of evolution and that leaves only
• 39:23
  one. Other choice.
• 39:24
  There's a God, See when you when you get to that conclusion you
• 39:28
  say wow there's a God then all of a sudden, you say, oh no,
• 39:33
  there's a God. Oh no, I better find out who he
• 39:37
  is. Find out what he wants and do
• 39:38
  what he says he owns this place. He's got rules, you're going to
• 39:43
  be judged by those rules, whether you like it or not.
• 39:45
  So rather than rely rather than admit.
• 39:49
  There's a God and they have to obey his rules.
• 39:51
  They will deny the exist and come up with stupid ideas to how
• 39:54
  to explain how we got here. Without God, I said, I want you
• 39:58
  to explain how this ink pen came to me, but you cannot use man,
• 40:01
  as your answer. Give me a naturalistic
• 40:03
  explanation. For any pain, you can't do it.
• 40:05
  There isn't one, there isn't a naturalistic explanation for a
• 40:09
  cell phone, somebody designed it and created it just it's not,
• 40:14
  there's no answer. So there is a natural
• 40:17
  explanation for how this world got here and how this universe
• 40:19
  got here. And how life got started.
• 40:21
  There isn't a naturalistic explanation but they're so
• 40:24
  desperate to believe in one. They will come up with stupid
• 40:27
  ideas. Like the octopus writing them
• 40:29
  asteroid through getting knocked off a planet.
• 40:32
  Somewhere else. I did that last night on my
• 40:35
  comments on comments, if you get a chance, go to Kent, Kent,
• 40:38
  hovind, official, and watch the one I did on the peer-reviewed
• 40:42
  article, 33 scientists at the odd.
• 40:44
  One of the options is octopus are so strange.
• 40:47
  Maybe they came from another planet Road here on an asteroid
• 40:50
  like the surfing monkeys across the Atlantic Ocean.
• 40:53
  They're desperate brother. Yeah I watched your video on the
• 40:56
  Octopus. There's another creature that
• 40:59
  they're claiming off, so that supposedly was surfing are no
• 41:03
  comets and made its way here the squid as well.
• 41:07
  So we got squid, when we got octopus.
• 41:09
  Apparently, anything that's unusual that they can't do.
• 41:13
  I mean, I don't know why they didn't just simply argue.
• 41:16
  They already believe they share 70% relation with the slug.
• 41:20
  So why not the octopus? But hey, if they want to go
• 41:22
  alien? What that sounds like Richard?
• 41:24
  Dawkins a while back, right? Right.
• 41:26
  Amen. What I'm told me he believes.
• 41:30
  He's related to a strawberry and other one said he's related to a
• 41:32
  snail. Okay?
• 41:36
  You can believe whatever you want, but judgement day is going
• 41:38
  to be very interesting. When God says, sorry, you're an
• 41:40
  idiot. Okay, so did you hear what
• 41:44
  happened? During a man Pals debate with
• 41:47
  what's-his-name, mr. Jones, Matt asked him, how did
• 41:51
  the things survive? How did the monkey survived
• 41:54
  while it was on this? All raft made out of seaweed.
• 41:59
  And the guy got, I cannot believe he said this and I had
• 42:02
  to mute my mic cuz I almost fell out of my chair dying laughing.
• 42:05
  But he said the monkey was eating its own floating device,
• 42:10
  I'm like, oh my God, they're 900 miles, it did this, I'm like oh
• 42:14
  my God. Oh man, I got to check the, the
• 42:22
  current, the ocean, the ocean has currents in it because of
• 42:26
  the spin of the earth, you know, the equator is moving faster
• 42:29
  than the poles, so it creates ocean currents.
• 42:32
  I don't know if the current is even going the right way to
• 42:34
  bring them across from Africa. This globe does not show the the
• 42:44
  South Atlantic current does flow this way but to go 900 miles I
• 42:49
  think the currents probably, you know, three miles an hour.
• 42:55
  It says they're so desperate to believe anything except God did
• 42:58
  it as far as animals getting two different continents, the answer
• 43:01
  is so much simpler. Obviously the Earth used to have
• 43:05
  huge ice caps, the ice came clear down To Kansas City
• 43:08
  Missouri. There's overwhelming
• 43:10
  indisputable evidence, Glacial Marine Terminal, moraines
• 43:13
  lateral, moraines, and there's no question.
• 43:17
  Ice came down to Kansas City, Missouri, I don't think anybody
• 43:19
  argues about that. Well, if the ice caps are bigger
• 43:23
  than the oceans, have to be smaller because the whole bunch
• 43:26
  of the water is frozen and stuck in the ice.
• 43:29
  I think during the flood, the ice caps were huge.
• 43:33
  After the flood, it would take 500 years for all that ice to
• 43:36
  melt back. It would melt back, go forward,
• 43:39
  and it makes its own refrigerator.
• 43:41
  When you get that much ice together, it refrigerates
• 43:43
  itself. So it may take several hundred
• 43:45
  years for the ice to melt back to where it is.
• 43:48
  Today the ice caps. While it's melting back.
• 43:51
  It's running into the oceans, in the oceans are getting deeper.
• 43:54
  Duh, if the oceans are deeper, they're also bigger.
• 43:58
  That's why all the continents have what's called a continental
• 44:00
  shelf. If you took, if you lowered the
• 44:03
  oceans today, the average 12,000 feet.
• 44:05
  If you took 100 feet of water out of 12,000 and froze, it and
• 44:10
  stuck it on the poles. Now the oceans are 100 feet
• 44:13
  lower and you can walk anywhere in the world.
• 44:15
  They say how did the kangaroos get to Australia?
• 44:17
  Well they walk the waters, only 30 or 40 feet deep into here.
• 44:21
  Type in look on your phone and get on Google Maps and go to
• 44:25
  continental shelf around, say the Philippines, you know, it's
• 44:29
  30, 40 feet deep between Russia and Alaska, it's about 60 feet
• 44:33
  deep from here to that back wall, that's it.
• 44:37
  So if you lowered the oceans by freezing that water sticking it
• 44:40
  on the poles. Now the ice continents are much
• 44:43
  bigger, I think, right? After the flood, when they got
• 44:46
  off the ark, the oceans were smaller and you could walk
• 44:49
  anywhere in the world. They were connected.
• 44:52
  People say, do you think the continents were ever connected?
• 44:54
  I say they're still connected right now.
• 44:57
  If you had long pair of stilts, you can walk over to England.
• 45:00
  I mean, the oceans have a bottom to him, you know?
• 45:02
  So like done, where they connected, they still are, I
• 45:06
  don't understand that. But just that's it.
• 45:09
  After the flood, the oceans were smaller because the ice caps
• 45:13
  were bigger, England between England and France.
• 45:16
  The English Channel is only about 50 or 100 feet deep, a
• 45:18
  couple of deep spots, maybe but you walk around in deep spots
• 45:21
  like duh. So I think that the migration
• 45:24
  wave took out from Noah's Ark for the next few hundred years.
• 45:27
  After the flood and then as the ice melted back, they motions
• 45:31
  get bigger and they become trapped and some animals.
• 45:35
  Some unusual animals were trapped in Australia, and now
• 45:38
  they can't get back because the land bridge is under water.
• 45:41
  Totally happily live ever live happily ever after the koalas
• 45:45
  and the kangaroos Etc in Australia.
• 45:49
  So that that's the whole been theory that the flood caused
• 45:53
  even after the flood for a couple hundred years.
• 45:55
  My grateful. Okay, looks like we got a big
• 46:02
  Jeremiah in here. Are juror, is that you or is
• 46:05
  that a troll? Oh, that's me, big chair.
• 46:09
  All right, I can take the Beeman blocker down.
• 46:11
  I was making sure what my friend wasn't being trolled there.
• 46:14
  There you go. I hadn't but I haven't put it up
• 46:17
  but that's the way. My name is always been big Jer
• 46:20
  everybody that I've run across cuz I'm like, hello there again.
• 46:25
  I appreciate your ministry button.
• 46:27
  And you for years off, and on, and thrilled to be able to talk
• 46:31
  to you directly. It's great.
• 46:33
  Great privilege. I appreciate the work you do
• 46:36
  well. Thank you.
• 46:36
  Sure. You're not the only one
• 46:37
  following me. I got the KGB, the IRS, the FBI,
• 46:40
  the Gestapo. They're all following me,
• 46:41
  brother. Well, when you're living, right,
• 46:44
  that's the way it works. You know.
• 46:48
  I got a question for you can't. You probably often heard atheist
• 46:51
  claim that they believe in an ice age yet.
• 46:54
  They don't believe it's possible for the world to flood.
• 46:57
  How does that logic work? The ever get blown away when you
• 46:59
  hear claims like that they're so illogical and so many think
• 47:04
  people say how did how did how did the world get flooded with?
• 47:07
  There's enough water in the oceans right now.
• 47:10
  If you smooth out the Earth, push the continents now, just
• 47:13
  smooth it out. The water would be 8,800, feet
• 47:16
  deep everywhere. A mile and a half deep.
• 47:20
  It will say where'd all the water from Noah's flood go,
• 47:22
  it'll here, it's in the oceans, they're huge 70% of the world's
• 47:26
  still covered by water. At the end of the flood, it
• 47:28
  says, in Psalm 104, the mountains are rose, The Valleys
• 47:32
  sank down in the water ran off. If this room was, if this room
• 47:36
  was three feet deep in water and we picked up that end of the
• 47:39
  building, the water would run down here.
• 47:41
  Now, would be six feet deep here and that would become exposed
• 47:44
  dry. So it's interesting nearly all
• 47:46
  the mountain ranges, follow the coastlines.
• 47:49
  You got the Rocky Mountains, following the North Atlantic or
• 47:52
  North Pacific. You got the Appalachian,
• 47:54
  Mountains, following the North Atlantic, the Andes Mountains,
• 47:57
  follow. The South Pacific the even, the
• 47:59
  Alps follow the Mediterranean. I think a small section caved
• 48:03
  in, made the Mediterranean Alps came up, so the mountain ranges
• 48:06
  and oceans formed at the same time.
• 48:08
  So the water from Noah's flood is still here.
• 48:11
  The evidence for Noah's flood with a rounded rocks all over
• 48:14
  you guys. Saw him today on the tour as
• 48:16
  families are visiting. We got seven layers of gravel
• 48:19
  right here in Lenox Alabama. This is a gravel pit for 20
• 48:21
  years and the rocks are rounded off.
• 48:24
  They were troubled back and forth like in a rock tumbler
• 48:26
  Noah's flood. Ted did all that they call it
• 48:29
  River Rock. It's not river.
• 48:30
  Rock is Flood Rock. We got a bunch of it here and
• 48:33
  put rocks in a rock polisher. You know, roll them around, they
• 48:36
  come out polishing around it. So and the Petrified seashells
• 48:39
  closed on top of Mount Everest, I there was a flood.
• 48:44
  No, I don't think Mount the water was over Mount, Everest.
• 48:46
  I think Mount Everest was under the water.
• 48:48
  Big difference, Mount Everest wasn't there until after the
• 48:51
  flood when the mountains are row, as the valley sink down the
• 48:54
  Himalaya Mountains rose up at either during the during The
• 48:57
  flutter during the last part of the flood or shortly after
• 49:00
  because the crust of the earth is all busted up like an
• 49:02
  eggshell. And the pieces are still
• 49:04
  twisting and floating around, that's what causes earthquakes.
• 49:06
  And volcanoes just Google the ring of fire or plate tectonics.
• 49:10
  Yes, the plates are moving. Yes, the Earth is cracked up and
• 49:13
  there's fault lines all over the place, San Andreas fault.
• 49:16
  Hayward fault the New Madrid fault.
• 49:18
  None of our my fault, but the Earth has faults okay.
• 49:21
  And they're still moving. That's because of Noah's flood.
• 49:24
  I'll happen at the same time. The Fountains of the deep broke
• 49:26
  open, that's when the Earth. Crust got cracked up.
• 49:28
  I think we'll Kent the science seems to agree with you on this
• 49:32
  issue just a few years ago. There's an article that I've put
• 49:36
  in one of my videos. I can provide it for you to add
• 49:40
  to what you already got as an Arsenal here, but apparently
• 49:44
  there's enough water in the earth to fill the oceans.
• 49:48
  Three to four times over right beneath us to do this and since
• 49:53
  the planet is almost 70, 75 percent water, anyway, and
• 49:57
  there's enough Water beneath the fill three times four times
• 49:59
  over. Oh my goodness, here, this is
• 50:01
  practically Till's needs as an ice cube and it's over, right?
• 50:07
  I've read articles that say, there might be ten oceans full
• 50:09
  of water in the crust of the earth.
• 50:11
  Still There's a lot of water, the Bible says when God created
• 50:15
  it. Genesis chapter 1 and 2, that
• 50:17
  there was water above the firmament, that's where the
• 50:20
  birds fly and water under an in the crust of the earth offers in
• 50:25
  second Peter chapter 3. It says the scoffers are
• 50:27
  ignorant of how gate God made the world in the water and out
• 50:30
  of the water when he made it. There was water under the crust
• 50:34
  of the earth, probably to regulate the temperature, keep
• 50:36
  it, you know, even temperature a crust, maybe 10 miles, thick and
• 50:41
  then a layer of air. Probably.
• 50:42
  One mile stick and then a couple inches of ice.
• 50:44
  I think super cold ice because outer space is near, you know -
• 50:48
  455 Fahrenheit, 271 K 0, what 1 degree Kelvin and produce 73?
• 50:55
  Nevermind Celsius - Celsius, but that layer of ice above, kept
• 51:00
  the air pressure greater filtered out, radiation from the
• 51:02
  Sun. It was designed for a man to
• 51:04
  live forever. You mean the canopy right?
• 51:08
  Can is that what you're is that what you're saying?
• 51:09
  They're absolutely. Some other creationists, do not
• 51:12
  believe in the The canopy Theory.
• 51:13
  They are wrong. I am right?
• 51:15
  That was a canopy above your well.
• 51:18
  I'm going to step away for a moment, mr.
• 51:20
  Rothstein, if you would like to talk to him, praise I am.
• 51:23
  And also look like Donnie said he'd be in a little bit.
• 51:26
  I'll be right back guys. I think you guys can have some
• 51:28
  good questions while I'm away just for a moment.
• 51:32
  Again, I had committed my life to Christ back in 1980 and after
• 51:41
  doing so. Of course, I had been, you know,
• 51:45
  taught all about the evolution Thing by very kind, kind
• 51:50
  individual, who went to church, you know.
• 51:53
  And so I just accepted that as fact, but after I commit my life
• 51:58
  to Christ, there was just something inside that said, you
• 52:00
  know, there's just something wrong about that.
• 52:04
  And so, I decided that I would go ahead and start doing my own
• 52:08
  research, and trying to dig in. I grab me one of these books
• 52:12
  here. Which is really helpful.
• 52:14
  The, you know, Genesis Flood, lots of other things.
• 52:19
  And, you know, went to the library and trying to find all
• 52:23
  the information I could. And, you know, it was it was
• 52:27
  really fascinating. One of the things that you would
• 52:29
  really love can't was I looked at the humanist magazine out,
• 52:34
  you know, you you lived in that era where you had to go to the
• 52:38
  magazine, you know go to the library and you looked at these
• 52:41
  magazines you Here at them. And that so I was reading the
• 52:44
  humanist magazine and and some of their anti creation stuff
• 52:50
  that they were talking about. And I read about how it was
• 52:56
  impossible for Noah to have built that Ark and they said
• 53:01
  with the tools that they had back then and the the
• 53:06
  capabilities that they had to build the ark, it would have
• 53:09
  taken him a hundred years to do it.
• 53:13
  Of course. Well, that's what the Bible
• 53:15
  says. Hey, it does, it probably did.
• 53:22
  And so it was just like God just like confirmed.
• 53:25
  It's like yeah, these guys don't know what they're talking about
• 53:28
  and I called him a couple of other things where they're
• 53:30
  trying to spout off trying to act like they're wise.
• 53:33
  And they're not, you know, it just, it was just so foolish to,
• 53:36
  you know, to and it was almost comical.
• 53:39
  But of course, then they were arguing that there wasn't enough
• 53:44
  water. And I ran across the professor
• 53:48
  probably about ten years later and he made the statement gives.
• 53:53
  Well, you know, there is evidence all around the world
• 53:56
  that there probably was a worldwide flood at least 13 of
• 53:58
  them and it's like, you know, just yeah, just like throw
• 54:05
  enough manure against the wall and some of its going to stick
• 54:09
  type thing, you know, and I realized in, when I, when I
• 54:14
  started Researching I realized that you know, they're just like
• 54:18
  they're constantly saying no no no.
• 54:21
  It's like you know they tried to say that there was no writing
• 54:25
  back in Moses time wealth and we uncovered the Rosetta Stone blue
• 54:31
  that theory out of the water. They tried to say that there is
• 54:34
  no such a place as Earth at Abraham or that that Abraham
• 54:41
  lived before he was called out. Well, guess what?
• 54:44
  They found. Found it, you know, I know
• 54:47
  they're still like, they're still trying to say, well, we
• 54:49
  can't have any evidence about Noah's flood, you know, and
• 54:53
  Noah's Ark. There's no evidence about it,
• 54:55
  you know, just because they can't dig up, you know, dig up
• 54:59
  the actual Ark, they're going to just use that as the basis by
• 55:04
  which they're going to doubt the entire scriptures.
• 55:07
  And you know the foolishness you don't prove something by you
• 55:13
  know, by you know saying there's nothing.
• 55:15
  It is for you can't you can't disprove it by saying there's
• 55:17
  not the evidence for it. You know, they tried to say
• 55:20
  that, you know, those mailings of of Israelites, wandering, the
• 55:26
  desert for 40 years, there would be dead carcasses all over the
• 55:29
  place, you know, and while we can't find it, so it didn't
• 55:33
  happen. And that's the kind of thing
• 55:36
  that you run up against is, you know, they just try to throw
• 55:39
  those kinds of doubts out and it's just like, no.
• 55:45
  I've got to work. I thought I had made adjustments
• 55:48
  every once in a while my video freezes up, but I thought it was
• 55:54
  interesting how the they tried to change the definitions to,
• 56:00
  now can't when I was growing up and I was studying science, they
• 56:06
  called of the ability to of a creature to adapt to its
• 56:11
  environment as adaptation. And and I find it interesting
• 56:19
  that that doesn't even exist in some of the science books, they
• 56:23
  just call it all evolution. You know, there is a, I heard it
• 56:28
  described, it's like a rubber band that our DNA has the
• 56:32
  capability of stretching in order to survive circumstances
• 56:37
  that were in. But if you reach too far, the
• 56:42
  rubber band snaps, And they have tried to continually change the
• 56:46
  DNA to try to, you know, to try to cause an evolutionary and
• 56:50
  every time they do it just snaps like a rubber band and it's
• 56:53
  gone. And I found, I found that
• 56:56
  interesting when I when I, when I did some research on that.
• 57:00
  But yeah, I just those are some of the things that I've run
• 57:05
  across and I really You know, I have no no issues whatsoever
• 57:14
  about the issue of creation to try to say it's ages.
• 57:18
  Doesn't make sense, you know, but everyone's tries to try some
• 57:23
  snake. It's a everything except for
• 57:25
  what it says, we got to warn you to says, they are Donnie
• 57:29
  standing for Christ. I want to make sure it's really
• 57:31
  him before. I take the demon, blocker, he's
• 57:34
  in the house is insane, you can. It's me, Brett, no worries,
• 57:38
  brother, it's me. Very good, very good.
• 57:42
  There is what's up? It's good to see your brother's
• 57:46
  how we doing dr. Holden.
• 57:47
  Good to see you. Thank you, join this.
• 57:51
  I'm really enjoying this. Appreciate the link there.
• 57:56
  Brett, dr. Hovind are you enjoying the
• 57:58
  evolution debate Challenge Series.
• 58:00
  You've been doing what to a week now?
• 58:02
  For the last four months brother I could do 20 a day, anybody
• 58:06
  please? Hey buddy thanks they came from
• 58:08
  a rock, need some serious help and I'm here to help doctors in.
• 58:11
  I'll straighten them out and and don't forget, they believe
• 58:15
  they're related to a snail. We are still fish and our
• 58:20
  ancestor is a strawberry essentially.
• 58:23
  Are you guys waiting For the day, they Clinic, they claim to
• 58:26
  come from Alien snails panspermia.
• 58:31
  I'm sure there's some claiming that can't.
• 58:34
  I've got a question for you. This is what a lot of the top
• 58:38
  dogs. I guess you could say put forth
• 58:40
  as evidence for evolution the phds.
• 58:43
  Over at biologos, Richard Dawkins, they'll say, well, you
• 58:47
  know, the best evidence for evolution is the existence of a
• 58:50
  nested hierarchy. You know, the fact that we as
• 58:54
  Ins are more similar to let's say the chimpanzee.
• 58:58
  Then we are to a dog or a fish. So my question would be why did
• 59:02
  God from a common design perspective.
• 59:05
  Make us more similar to let's say the primates or a chimpanzee
• 59:08
  than to other forms of life like a dog or a fish.
• 59:12
  Well I'd say first of all there are trillions of differences.
• 59:15
  You know why does General Motors build cars and trucks?
• 59:18
  That both have four tires at it works.
• 59:22
  Okay. You both have a steering wheel
• 59:24
  and a bow. Have you?
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  No suspension system. And of course, there's a lot of
• 59:28
  similarities between all the vehicles everybody bills because
• 59:30
  they got a face, the same environment.
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  You want a vehicle that you're able to steer and the wheels can
• 59:35
  bounce up and down, and you want something to keep the rain off.
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  And they're probably Windows to see out of I've been with them
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  and glass someplace. Of course, that's not evidence
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  of evolution. It's evidence of a common design
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  from a common designer that works.
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  We got two arms, so we can hold things and grab things.
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  I like them very much. We tend to use been using them
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  all my life, okay. And it I to protect them.
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  Okay. So I don't want to break them.
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  I'm broken both a couple times. So I think that monkeys have two
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  arms and so what that proves a common designer.
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  But in their brain, they are so anxious to believe in evolution,
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  they can't even consider that. Maybe there's a common designer,
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  the fact that man has decided to classify animals together and
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  say this one similar to this one.
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  There's not many animals believe that I don't think the monkeys
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  care how we classify them. I know this, you turn all the
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  animals in the world lose. To the woods.
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  The monkey real monkeys are going to seek out the female
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  monkeys. Not the couch, not the hamsters,
• 1:00:32
  not the pine trees. Well as the same time, the
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  male's know which ones are the same time.
• 1:00:38
  Yeah, that's a good point. Well, as you see dr.
• 1:00:41
  Kent that were made of atoms. Therefore, I guess we came from
• 1:00:46
  Adams and like they're like there's certain other similar
• 1:00:49
  things that we have that other things have that is I mean, we
• 1:00:51
  came from originated for him from Am I think that's a stupid
• 1:00:56
  hypothesis? Hypothesis here Erica is purely
• 1:01:01
  purely man-made. We have our Tools in our shop in
• 1:01:04
  nested hierarchies we have the battery powered Tools.
• 1:01:07
  In one part power plug in power tools.
• 1:01:10
  In another part, the screws are in a separate car and the nails,
• 1:01:13
  we keep separate from the screws, they're both made out of
• 1:01:16
  iron. They both serve the same
• 1:01:17
  function hold something together, we keep them separate
• 1:01:19
  the we think screws are different than nails.
• 1:01:21
  And we've got the nail sorted, big ones and little ones.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah, of course, every hardware store in the world does that.
• 1:01:27
  So the fact that we have decided to classify, them does not mean
• 1:01:30
  the animals themselves care at all where we classify them, they
• 1:01:33
  don't care. Amen.
• 1:01:35
  Well said dr. Holden and when it comes to
• 1:01:37
  tools, you could even find hard to classify tools like fencing.
• 1:01:40
  Pliers. A gu, where do we put this one,
• 1:01:42
  you know, to the evolutionist, there's your Transit.
• 1:01:45
  There's your transitional form when it is nothing of the kind.
• 1:01:50
  Yeah, wasn't going through a transition cause survival issues
• 1:01:55
  for a creature. Let's say, for example they like
• 1:01:58
  to claim the dinosaurs just suddenly somehow missed the
• 1:02:01
  meteorite and we're able to transform into awesome feathery
• 1:02:04
  Birds you would think that while they're going to some kind of
• 1:02:07
  transition like that that would make it difficult for them to
• 1:02:10
  move around and defend themselves against anything.
• 1:02:14
  Have you ever heard an explanation for this Donnie or
• 1:02:17
  Kent? I think Donnie calls the
• 1:02:24
  mosaics. I think that's a good.
• 1:02:26
  I like that terminology, I'm sorry.
• 1:02:31
  Yeah, these transitional forms. If they existed, of course,
• 1:02:35
  there would be massive problems in evolving or maintaining some
• 1:02:41
  of these complexities. But I like to point out just
• 1:02:43
  like, you know, Kent and I were chatting about a few seconds
• 1:02:47
  ago, that man made designs like tools, fencing pliers, could be
• 1:02:51
  considered, you know, Any interesting Mosaic or
• 1:02:54
  transitional former even some of these hard to classify Vehicles
• 1:02:57
  these days, these crossover SUVs.
• 1:02:59
  I mean are we looking at a van or an SUV or these military
• 1:03:03
  amphibious assault vehicles, right?
• 1:03:06
  A mixture of a land tank and a military vehicle built for for
• 1:03:10
  the ocean. So these are just good design.
• 1:03:12
  So even if we find some interesting mosaics in the
• 1:03:14
  biological world, like the Platypus or you know the
• 1:03:18
  evolution is like to look to Archaeopteryx or tiktaalik.
• 1:03:22
  I mean we're just looking In that good design.
• 1:03:24
  We're not looking at one creature transitioning into
• 1:03:27
  another. So that would be my response.
• 1:03:28
  At least you know, Donnie. We had a guy in named John
• 1:03:32
  Richards. Last time, Kent was in there and
• 1:03:34
  they were doing a discussion. And the guy continued to appeal
• 1:03:37
  to this idea where he was saying oh the human, if the human can't
• 1:03:42
  be designed, it's so terrible. It's so awful, we breathe
• 1:03:46
  through the same place we eat. And I said, I'll tell you what.
• 1:03:49
  John, take 50 of your most intelligent friends going to And
• 1:03:52
  see if you can do better in God and get back with me.
• 1:03:55
  When said quiet, yeah. One professor said, women are
• 1:04:02
  poorly designed because the baby has to go through the pelvic
• 1:04:06
  cradle. He said remember to better if
• 1:04:07
  the baby came out through the belly button.
• 1:04:35
  so then he showed me this, Finn. It was balled up like, and it
• 1:04:43
  looked like a human fist. I says, wait, wait, where's the
• 1:04:46
  image? He says, I'm showing it to you,
• 1:04:48
  right now. You just got to look at the
• 1:04:49
  image. You are you paying attention was
• 1:04:51
  Christian and I looked at it, I was like, wait a minute.
• 1:04:53
  You mean, the balled up fist the fin in the shape of a balled-up
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  human fist on the Dolphins? Yes that's Evolution.
• 1:05:02
  And I like, are you serious? Like the evolution of
• 1:05:06
  Photoshopped me if you ask it. What?
• 1:05:09
  What? But even if it was real, I mean,
• 1:05:11
  all you gotta do is do an x-ray of a dolphin's Fin and what are
• 1:05:16
  you gonna see? You're gonna see a set of bones
• 1:05:18
  that are, you know, somebody could easily anthropomorphize it
• 1:05:22
  and say, oh yeah, that looks like a human hand of set of
• 1:05:26
  bones that look like a human hand or something.
• 1:05:29
  You know. But it would have all it was was
• 1:05:31
  just a balled up and he said those Evolution and evolution.
• 1:05:37
  I like how they say, Eeveelution, you mean Vaca?
• 1:05:40
  That's not enough evidence for you to believe that you and a
• 1:05:42
  banana planner related to Cummings.
• 1:05:44
  Mr. Come on Krypton mind the science.
• 1:05:47
  I'm gonna tell you one thing a man.
• 1:05:48
  Somebody tell me that I came from a monkey.
• 1:05:50
  There's gonna be some problems, man.
• 1:05:54
  But I wanted to ask and can't question in a nest of tea.
• 1:05:58
  I asked you this question before.
• 1:06:01
  What, what is the best evidence that you can provide about the,
• 1:06:07
  the, what's the question of I want to ask about the the bones
• 1:06:12
  set of bones that we see you knows through the different
• 1:06:16
  layers. But how come or is there any
• 1:06:19
  evidence of human bones in the same layers as these dinosaur
• 1:06:24
  bones? Well, it did they drown in the
• 1:06:27
  flood? Yeah they start off with the
• 1:06:29
  assumption that all the layers are different ages and there's
• 1:06:33
  the problem I have this thing on my desk.
• 1:06:36
  I flip it over, it makes 10 or 15 different layers in a few
• 1:06:39
  minutes is the top layer younger.
• 1:06:42
  They say they have this geologic column that they teach the kids,
• 1:06:45
  you know, cenozoic Mesozoic Paleozoic with the Jurassic
• 1:06:48
  Triassic, Mississippi and devonian Solarium, it's all
• 1:06:51
  baloney, it doesn't exist anywhere in the world except in
• 1:06:54
  the textbook. There is no geologic column.
• 1:06:57
  They said the top layers younger.
• 1:06:58
  I say really where did it come from?
• 1:06:59
  Outer space stop and think about it.
• 1:07:03
  All the layers are the same age all of them if you Shuffle the
• 1:07:07
  deck of cards is the top card younger.
• 1:07:11
  No. And moving it from here, to
• 1:07:13
  here, does not make it younger. Now all every Speck of dirt on
• 1:07:16
  the planet is the same age. if whether it's 6,000 or Six
• 1:07:21
  Trillion, it's every Speck of dirt is the same age, but they
• 1:07:26
  start with the assumption that the layers are different ages,
• 1:07:29
  and there's the false assumption, then they dig down,
• 1:07:32
  looking for bones in these layers and they find that, wow,
• 1:07:35
  generally clams are found at the bottom Therefore clams evolve.
• 1:07:41
  First. That's their, that's their
• 1:07:42
  logic. No, clams are found at the
• 1:07:45
  bottom guys, because that's where they live.
• 1:07:48
  When the flood starts of wicker, the first ones buried have you
• 1:07:52
  found at the bottom because clams can't run very fast and
• 1:07:56
  they get trapped food. Maybe their phone at the bottom
• 1:07:59
  because they have a heavy shell. I mean Hello.
• 1:08:03
  Of course they're found at the bottom.
• 1:08:04
  They send our birds are found at the top layer.
• 1:08:06
  Therefore Birds evolved last. I say guys birds birds are the
• 1:08:10
  last ones to drowned. In a flood, they can fly around.
• 1:08:13
  Until they run out of gas. Of course, they're on top and
• 1:08:16
  when they do die, they got hollow bones and Hollow feathers
• 1:08:18
  and they're going to float and birds are a little smarter than
• 1:08:21
  clams as far as we can figure out.
• 1:08:23
  If I would figure out a way to avoid grounding.
• 1:08:25
  When clams, get scared, they clam up and when the money
• 1:08:28
  flowing back and forth from Noah's flood just to tide coming
• 1:08:31
  up and down with the water, go back and forth and make a layer
• 1:08:33
  of mud, fifty feet thick in 10 seconds.
• 1:08:36
  So I point out, first of all, there is no geologic column,
• 1:08:39
  this doesn't exist, okay? Secondly, any sorting we see is,
• 1:08:43
  Hydrologic sorting water automatically sorts Things based
• 1:08:47
  upon body density based on Mobility based on intelligence,
• 1:08:51
  based on habitat. The clams already live at the
• 1:08:53
  bottom. Of course, they're buried first.
• 1:08:55
  So and if are dinosaurs and humans, I think they have been
• 1:08:58
  found in the same strata but it wouldn't matter.
• 1:09:01
  Dinosaurs always lived with man they had different names,
• 1:09:03
  typically dragons or something. There might be some still alive.
• 1:09:07
  I cover that on video number three, all about dinosaurs.
• 1:09:10
  The dinosaurs living with men in the past and the few that may Be
• 1:09:13
  around my video dinosaurs and the Bible and give that one out
• 1:09:17
  everybody you meet. So yeah, I think it's so sad.
• 1:09:20
  These guys are so brainwashed. They believe all these layer and
• 1:09:22
  they got names for him cenozoic. That's the Bible to the
• 1:09:25
  evolutionist, they'll say, well, during the Cretaceous Period,
• 1:09:29
  there's no such thing as a Cretaceous Period guy stopped.
• 1:09:32
  There is no fossil record. There's a lot of fossils
• 1:09:35
  trillions of them but none of them talk.
• 1:09:39
  Petrified clam. Quiet.
• 1:09:43
  None of them have a date. Stamped on them.
• 1:09:45
  Does not say if 570 million be, she doesn't say that they're
• 1:09:49
  making their interpretation on them.
• 1:09:50
  The whole geologic. Column is the that's the Bible
• 1:09:53
  to the evolutionist. It's a joke, it doesn't exist
• 1:09:55
  anywhere in the world. I'll debate all the geologist in
• 1:09:57
  the world on that topic. I want to throw something by you
• 1:10:02
  can't back in, in my studies. One of the things that they
• 1:10:08
  objected to as far as Adam and Eve goes is that, you know, is
• 1:10:12
  that you would have to have. And I can't remember who it was
• 1:10:16
  16 or 32, I guess that would depend on the expert.
• 1:10:19
  You know? That would say it that you would
• 1:10:21
  have to have a gene pool of 16 to 32 beings and whatever they
• 1:10:31
  were in order to create a good gene pool in order to in order
• 1:10:36
  to grow and develop. And so that's why the object--
• 1:10:39
  to the Adam and Eve and I turn that around on them.
• 1:10:45
  And I go, well, that means that this miracle of of a
• 1:10:51
  transitional form of creature, Not only would it have to happen
• 1:10:57
  to one, but it would have A happened to 16 all in the same
• 1:11:02
  place at the same time, you know?
• 1:11:10
  It doesn't make sense. They will not believe the Adam
• 1:11:14
  and Eve story over something like that.
• 1:11:16
  It takes 16 to 32, people have a diversified gene pool.
• 1:11:19
  And yet, they believe we all came from Iraq, which has no
• 1:11:22
  gene pool at all right? They're so desperate to believe
• 1:11:26
  that? Now, if I was like, I'm sorry,
• 1:11:30
  but I just like the concept of turning their argument against
• 1:11:34
  them and I don't have the faith to believe that there would be
• 1:11:39
  that kind of event that would happen.
• 1:11:41
  And in Case, it would have to happen over and over again for
• 1:11:45
  all the different types of creatures that we have.
• 1:11:49
  It would have to happen suddenly, you know, 16 to 32 all
• 1:11:54
  at one time in the same place. Doesn't make sense.
• 1:11:59
  So I just I really like that concept because it's like nobody
• 1:12:03
  was arguing that and I said wait a minute.
• 1:12:05
  Now you're saying this, okay. Now you're telling me that all
• 1:12:09
  that has to happen in order for a transitionary form to take
• 1:12:14
  place and be successful. I don't have faith for that.
• 1:12:19
  Does anybody know the news on the news unit?
• 1:12:22
  Anybody know a person called the news unit.
• 1:12:25
  Oh yeah. Extremely annoying.
• 1:12:32
  All right. No, thanks at news unit.
• 1:12:35
  Maybe some other time, not really in the mood for that.
• 1:12:37
  You got to people who don't love you.
• 1:12:39
  I'm sorry. No, that's that.
• 1:12:41
  Oh, I do got a question if the Earth, hypothetically was
• 1:12:45
  billions of years old, but we have overabundance of fossils.
• 1:12:50
  I mean, to the point where when we walk outside, were tripping
• 1:12:52
  over bones. It seems like a long time, a lot
• 1:12:55
  of corpses who's that can for anybody wants to I point out for
• 1:13:05
  the atheist, guys, we don't see fossils forming today at all.
• 1:13:10
  How many animals died in the last year?
• 1:13:12
  Would you guess and how many turned to fossils?
• 1:13:16
  None. Millions died.
• 1:13:18
  None fossilized. Fossilization takes very special
• 1:13:21
  conditions. The creature has to be buried
• 1:13:23
  rapidly in mud and mud that can replace the bones gradually.
• 1:13:28
  The fossilization process is pretty Understood and we find
• 1:13:31
  lots of fossils. No question.
• 1:13:33
  But we don't see it happening today.
• 1:13:35
  Therefore, with the Noah's flood story is the most logical
• 1:13:40
  explanation for how all these animals got buried at the same
• 1:13:42
  time and then they all get sorted based upon their body
• 1:13:46
  density and hydrologic sorting stuff like that.
• 1:13:48
  And the layers would have formed very quickly during the flood,
• 1:13:51
  but we don't see fossils forming today at all.
• 1:13:55
  So why do we have so many billions of fossils?
• 1:13:57
  They formed at one time in one big flood.
• 1:13:59
  Bud. But you get my point.
• 1:14:03
  If the Earth were billions of years old, we should be seeing
• 1:14:06
  an overabundance, it should be the point where everywhere you
• 1:14:09
  walk, you're tripping over a bone here and there hey Olive.
• 1:14:12
  If you want to come in, you're more than welcome to Sydney
• 1:14:14
  Winston. Welcome to the room.
• 1:14:16
  Thank you. And I'm going to bow out,
• 1:14:19
  because I've got a couple of projects that I'm trying to get
• 1:14:23
  accomplished and still trying to get my book finally edited
• 1:14:28
  Brent, you know how that goes? I told you, when you get your
• 1:14:31
  book down, let me know. I'll be more than happy to
• 1:14:33
  advertise it. You can make me a 30 second
• 1:14:35
  clip. I'll put it on every show for
• 1:14:37
  you brother. Well, I don't think it's gonna
• 1:14:39
  be a good one. Well, I'm working on, English,
• 1:14:43
  wasn't my best subject, and as I read through, I see a lot of
• 1:14:47
  English errors, and I've got some editors working on it, too,
• 1:14:51
  but I'm trying to trying to go through it myself and then I've
• 1:14:55
  got editors and after I get done with them, you know, I want to
• 1:14:58
  try to make sure that it's a Well, well, well put together
• 1:15:03
  and it. I'm very happy about the way it
• 1:15:07
  come together. But yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Well, we'll talk about that later.
• 1:15:10
  We'll see you all later. Can't God bless you.
• 1:15:14
  All right, right. Take care.
• 1:15:15
  Take care. All love to you and your family.
• 1:15:18
  God bless you actually Brett. If I could add something, you
• 1:15:22
  made a good point there and then I'd like to follow it up with
• 1:15:25
  with a question for dr. Dino is your point on?
• 1:15:30
  They're really not even being enough fossils.
• 1:15:33
  If the Earth really is billions of years old, we could focus in.
• 1:15:36
  I've done my own calculations in a book, I wrote on human
• 1:15:39
  evolution, if we were to just look at humans in the fossil
• 1:15:42
  record, we actually see no evidence of hundreds of
• 1:15:45
  thousands of years of human existence because if we were to
• 1:15:49
  even take the evolutionary model, take their time frame.
• 1:15:52
  Okay? And let's take a homo erectus
• 1:15:55
  which they like to prop up as one of our ancestors, we can
• 1:15:58
  safely assume that a boat. Million Homo erectus lived
• 1:16:02
  across Eurasia Africa. Essentially, they handled a
• 1:16:05
  massive distribution. Okay.
• 1:16:07
  So if we say that their average generation time is 20 years,
• 1:16:11
  that means about every 20 years you have another million dead
• 1:16:14
  bodies and so after a million years we have over 20 billion
• 1:16:19
  dead Homo erectus and guess what?
• 1:16:21
  This is 20 billion people of which, we have no evidence ever
• 1:16:24
  existent. And even the, evolutionist would
• 1:16:27
  admit that homo erectus who--, we would say was fully human.
• 1:16:30
  Oommen. But they'll even admit that
• 1:16:32
  erectus, had primitive technology.
• 1:16:34
  They would have had campsites Villages fire, right there.
• 1:16:37
  Be a ton of evidence for their existence but believe it or not,
• 1:16:41
  every single fossil for, you know, Homo erectus we can fit in
• 1:16:46
  the trunk of a car. So where's all the evidence of,
• 1:16:50
  you know, 20 billion dead that homo erectus?
• 1:16:53
  And that's just one single example, that refutes.
• 1:16:56
  Deep time Evolution. Yeah, anything, they've claimed
• 1:16:59
  to be been Anyway, they end up making fake Parts in order to
• 1:17:03
  put it up in the museum, Lucy the perfect example.
• 1:17:06
  They put fake human feet aren't that thing?
• 1:17:08
  That was not there before originally, it was just like a
• 1:17:12
  piece of Taco looking thing and then they just designed the rest
• 1:17:15
  over it. And then my question for can't,
• 1:17:19
  can you speak on it still a braid?
• 1:17:22
  A little bit on vehicles. Question earlier on The Ordering
• 1:17:24
  of the fossils, you talk a lot about these stratification
• 1:17:28
  experiments and and I actually just had John McKay High, the
• 1:17:32
  creation guy on and they're they're doing real-time
• 1:17:34
  experiments in Australia showing how these Rock layers can form
• 1:17:40
  sideways based on the movements of the water and how all of
• 1:17:45
  these layers essentially were reshuffle during the flood.
• 1:17:49
  And so to interpret the bottom layer is the oldest and the top
• 1:17:52
  layer as the youngest is fallacious.
• 1:17:55
  Can you speak a little bit to that brother?
• 1:17:58
  There's a great video done 20 years ago by some french guy.
• 1:18:00
  Forget his name, it's about that long, but it's called
• 1:18:03
  experiments in stratification. If you can Google that and he
• 1:18:07
  shows how that when water is moving sideways, it Formed 10 or
• 1:18:12
  15 layers at the same time. The layers are forming
• 1:18:15
  horizontally, not vertically. So the bottom layer could have a
• 1:18:19
  fossil that's actually younger than one at the top because the
• 1:18:21
  layers are forming this way. Just Google experiments in
• 1:18:24
  stratification by. I think it's Bernard something
• 1:18:26
  other than you Should look it up.
• 1:18:28
  But yeah, the whole fallacy of the thinking is that the layers
• 1:18:32
  formed this way. You can shake up well, I made 20
• 1:18:36
  layers in the last couple minutes here by flipping this
• 1:18:40
  thing over fossils are contained and dead animals.
• 1:18:44
  Containing contained in those layers, would would anything
• 1:18:48
  dead buried? If it's very quickly enough
• 1:18:50
  before, it decomposes would turn to fossils if it's got the right
• 1:18:53
  minerals in the mud around it and so the layers would form
• 1:18:59
  quickly and get that video experiments in stratification
• 1:19:01
  how they form horizontally not vertically.
• 1:19:04
  It's crazy. And what was the other part of
• 1:19:08
  your question? I forgot already has to do with
• 1:19:11
  with the in good response. The question you'll typically
• 1:19:14
  ask the evolution as you know, where did the material for these
• 1:19:18
  layers? Come from outer space, right?
• 1:19:20
  Because you point out that essentially, we're just getting
• 1:19:23
  the reshuffling of pre-existing material that's already here on
• 1:19:26
  the Earth. Yeah, so I guess, but I guess
• 1:19:31
  the question would be, how did that repeat their position in
• 1:19:34
  when they say? Well, you know, this just comes
• 1:19:36
  from lava flows, that's deep within the mantle and that's
• 1:19:39
  where we're getting new layers. Isn't that fallacious?
• 1:19:41
  Because that's or that that's just moving material from Earth
• 1:19:46
  to another place on the earth. How does that help them?
• 1:19:48
  Well, it's not only moving the same material around its now
• 1:19:51
  igneous, it's been ignited where the word igneous comes from
• 1:19:54
  lava. That's not sedimentary rock.
• 1:19:57
  Like we see the fossils found in lava wouldn't have contain any
• 1:20:00
  Sauce is too hot. It would have burned everything
• 1:20:04
  up and putting the bone. So, the set of the fossils are
• 1:20:07
  found in sedimentary rock and which is not coming from
• 1:20:10
  volcanoes. So, there's absolutely they
• 1:20:12
  don't understand or science 101 if they think you know that's
• 1:20:15
  the new layers are coming from lava, there are layers coming
• 1:20:18
  from lava but it's not containing any fossils.
• 1:20:22
  A man. Well said, well said that the
• 1:20:24
  so-called geologic column? It's no help to them
• 1:20:29
  essentially. So that is their Bible and you
• 1:20:33
  attack that they'll get mad at you but it doesn't exist.
• 1:20:36
  It's completely fake. No.
• 1:20:40
  Can't, we were talking about the whole reproductive organs, as
• 1:20:43
  well as the sex drive. I haven't heard any
• 1:20:46
  non-believers or anybody be able to give an example of how this
• 1:20:51
  very powerful mechanism within the body.
• 1:20:54
  To make this work in the replication involved in it.
• 1:20:57
  How it has anything. And, of course, without the
• 1:20:59
  drive, it wouldn't even matter what they have because they have
• 1:21:03
  no interest or appeal in each other.
• 1:21:05
  Have you ever even heard a good argument for this?
• 1:21:08
  Well, I asked him that. The time why would all of the
• 1:21:11
  animals and plants in the world? Evolved the ability to
• 1:21:15
  reproduce, that's only going to make more mouths to feed.
• 1:21:19
  Ask anybody's got kids. Did your budget go up?
• 1:21:21
  Yeah. Duh, why would why don't why
• 1:21:25
  didn't any plant or animal? Just simply evolved the ability
• 1:21:28
  to live forever? Would that be better, lot
• 1:21:31
  cheaper? But all the plants and animals
• 1:21:34
  have not only the ability to reproduce.
• 1:21:36
  They have been phenomenal. Drive to reproduce, you should
• 1:21:39
  see all our animals here, they're going nuts, trying to
• 1:21:41
  find. Mrs. You know, tortoise or mrs.
• 1:21:43
  Horse or whatever they are, you know, there's they're frantic to
• 1:21:46
  find a partner, I think that's normal.
• 1:21:48
  That's natural. That's the way God did it.
• 1:21:50
  But well, how could that evolve? I've never heard an answer to
• 1:21:54
  that one. The other thing for me too is
• 1:21:59
  how is it that they believe that the reproductive organs
• 1:22:02
  themselves? No offense folks such as the
• 1:22:05
  penis and vagina how didst a compatible after all these
• 1:22:08
  years, as it went from species to species to species, the only
• 1:22:13
  thing they've told me is will have to deaden, it will to die.
• 1:22:16
  Yeah. No, duh.
• 1:22:18
  But how did it actually do that? Tell me about the carrots, not
• 1:22:21
  the horse. Ha ha ha.
• 1:22:24
  Which Evolved? First the male or the Mail.
• 1:22:26
  And how did it live without the other one?
• 1:22:29
  You got me Kent. I'm still wondering when the
• 1:22:31
  atheist is going to answer that. They're the ones that believe in
• 1:22:34
  magic. I think it was designed very
• 1:22:37
  well by the way, but it was designed.
• 1:22:39
  Okay by God. Yeah, makes a salute sense with
• 1:22:43
  the concept of an intelligent designer putting purpose and
• 1:22:47
  logic into the design to do that.
• 1:22:49
  But to say that it naturalistically without no
• 1:22:52
  guide or help, we're back to octopuses aren't comments as far
• 1:22:56
  as you ask me. Hey brother, I've been impromptu
• 1:23:01
  here for an hour. I got visitors here waiting on.
• 1:23:03
  You got some other questions. Let's take them real quick but I
• 1:23:05
  need to get going here. Well, anybody want to ask him a
• 1:23:08
  question? I want to hold him back.
• 1:23:10
  I know he's a busy man. Yeah, sure.
• 1:23:16
  Well, you said yeah, sure. And now comes the question,
• 1:23:20
  right? I was just waiting to see if my
• 1:23:22
  mic was working. It obviously is so I've been
• 1:23:26
  hearing Mr. Hovind talk for what an hour and some on things like
• 1:23:33
  science and geology and fossil ology and and all this kind of
• 1:23:39
  stuff and then and also saying things like God did this and God
• 1:23:43
  did that, which is, which is fair enough.
• 1:23:46
  But I'm not once have heard Mr. Hovind make a decent argument
• 1:23:52
  that God actually can exist without being caused.
• 1:23:58
  That's something that I've always had a problem with you
• 1:24:01
  except you except you deny, the accepted science.
• 1:24:05
  And you accept the, the Eternal nature of this conceptual God,
• 1:24:13
  and I find that difficult to find the To come to terms with.
• 1:24:19
  Until I understand how how God came to be.
• 1:24:23
  I don't know how we have any knowledge or, or, Yeah, I'd say
• 1:24:33
  any knowledge or the mastership of anything that we can think
• 1:24:40
  of, on a theological level because we can talk Theology and
• 1:24:44
  Science and deny this and deny that all day long.
• 1:24:48
  But when it comes to this, this eternal God thing, there's never
• 1:24:54
  been an argument to support how this God thing came into
• 1:24:59
  existence because it must have come into existence.
• 1:25:01
  It can't. By your own by your own by your
• 1:25:08
  own logic you can't have been around forever but nothing does
• 1:25:14
  not produce something. So are question, a very fair
• 1:25:19
  question, did I understand the question?
• 1:25:22
  What caused God or where did God come from?
• 1:25:25
  The question where did God come from?
• 1:25:27
  Have several built-in automatic assumptions?
• 1:25:29
  The where involves That's, you know, space.
• 1:25:34
  What if God is outside of time space and matter, then the where
• 1:25:38
  he's everywhere. At the same time did involves
• 1:25:41
  time past tense. Did what if God is outside of
• 1:25:45
  time? We're the ones that are stuck in
• 1:25:46
  time space and matter. God's not stuck in any of those
• 1:25:49
  rubber, but you still presupposing God while true, the
• 1:25:52
  God that I worship claims. He's Eternal, he is just, I am
• 1:25:58
  in the beginning. God created the Heaven and the
• 1:26:00
  Earth God actually. Dated time space matter and
• 1:26:03
  those ten words, right? I've been stuck.
• 1:26:06
  I've been stuck in time and space and matter.
• 1:26:08
  All my life. It's hard to visualize any.
• 1:26:10
  Let me measure your question. I didn't interrupt you if to, if
• 1:26:14
  two computers were arguing with each other.
• 1:26:17
  Does man exists? And where did man come from?
• 1:26:21
  The two computers are probably never going to come to an answer
• 1:26:23
  to either one of those questions.
• 1:26:25
  They're not capable of thinking outside their little box so we
• 1:26:29
  as humans can argue about where did God come from?
• 1:26:31
  Because it's if you're trying desperately to put human
• 1:26:33
  limitations on God so you're not thinking of the biblical God,
• 1:26:36
  that's for sure the guys and I were thinking of the space, I'm
• 1:26:40
  thinking of the Creator. God, yeah, that 38 cannot that
• 1:26:44
  channel. That has somehow appeared from
• 1:26:47
  nothing. Right Brett, I'd ask me when I
• 1:26:51
  talk even mute his mic. Okay.
• 1:26:52
  I don't interrupt him. He didn't rape me.
• 1:26:54
  Okay, yes. Let me go.
• 1:26:56
  Mike. Thank you Mike.
• 1:26:57
  Whenever he's going to go ahead and the God that I worship is
• 1:27:02
  not caused by anything. He just is now, I don't
• 1:27:06
  understand that but that's what he claims.
• 1:27:08
  I've chosen to believe that by faith and you said that I
• 1:27:11
  didn't. I accepted science.
• 1:27:13
  That is absolutely not true. I love science.
• 1:27:16
  There's nothing scientific about evolution.
• 1:27:18
  Nobody's ever seen any animal or plant in the history of the
• 1:27:21
  world. Nobody's ever seen a cow produce
• 1:27:25
  a non cow or a cow. Come from a non cow, it just
• 1:27:28
  doesn't happen. It's imagination.
• 1:27:30
  But you guys have lines on paper drawing, cows and strawberries
• 1:27:33
  coming to a common ancestor and amoeba.
• 1:27:35
  That's not science. You might think it's accepted
• 1:27:38
  science. Well, it's stupidity.
• 1:27:40
  It's accepted stupidity in my humble, totally unbiased opinion
• 1:27:43
  and I'll debate you and every evolution is you can find on
• 1:27:45
  that topic. If I get half the time one top,
• 1:27:48
  At a time and no interrupting. Okay so there is no evidence
• 1:27:52
  whatsoever that any animal or plant has ever produced anything
• 1:27:56
  other than its kind 20 times in the first seven chapters.
• 1:28:00
  The Bible says they will bring forth after their kind.
• 1:28:02
  There are no exceptions to that every Farmer in the history of
• 1:28:05
  the world will tell you cows, produce cows, and only cows and
• 1:28:10
  cows are only interested in other cows to mate with.
• 1:28:12
  Are not interested in the fence post in the pine tree or the
• 1:28:14
  Sheep. They're designed to do what they
• 1:28:16
  do. So I do not deny.
• 1:28:18
  Science. I deny the evolution Theory
• 1:28:20
  because it's not part of science.
• 1:28:22
  It's a religion, you believe, cows and strawberries are
• 1:28:25
  related. You don't know that.
• 1:28:26
  You believe that, okay? The Eternal God that I worship
• 1:28:30
  is completely outside of time space matter and you're trying
• 1:28:33
  to put human limitations on. God, you got the wrong body and
• 1:28:36
  your mind. I'm trying to find out.
• 1:28:38
  How did me Sidney. A Kent doesn't have a whole lot
• 1:28:41
  of time and I want to give other people a chance.
• 1:28:44
  I will provide you, okay. Well couple I'll provide you a
• 1:28:47
  couple videos that Anne has done.
• 1:28:49
  He actually did it. No.
• 1:28:50
  No. I like the videos.
• 1:28:52
  You guys have been talking for an hour about enough things that
• 1:28:55
  you know, nothing about. I'd like to talk about God,
• 1:28:58
  which is supposed to know everything, you'll be more than
• 1:29:00
  he just gave know everything about God know how God.
• 1:29:04
  You're not the special day Sydney.
• 1:29:07
  I'll be more than happy to talk to you about things, but Kent is
• 1:29:10
  getting ready to take off. He's got things, you can do nice
• 1:29:13
  to meet you, but I want to give other people an opportunity
• 1:29:16
  before he goes. If Got a little bit of time and
• 1:29:20
  then we'll talk about it. We'll talk about as long as you
• 1:29:22
  like, Brett have this guy called Donnie standing for truth,
• 1:29:26
  danis, a good moderator. He shuts off their bike.
• 1:29:29
  When it's my turn to talk already, this fellow is
• 1:29:31
  interrupted 20 times in the last six minutes.
• 1:29:34
  I don't want to do that. I'll be all right.
• 1:29:38
  All right. So said need to slow it down our
• 1:29:41
  nap, okay? So does anybody got any other
• 1:29:44
  questions for Kent or shall we? Let him go.
• 1:29:49
  I do, I asked Miss Kent about God and he, he's answer had
• 1:29:55
  nothing to do with. God was all about how.
• 1:29:58
  All right, so we already went through this.
• 1:30:00
  I said I was giving other people now opportunity.
• 1:30:03
  Can't if nobody else. Has got any questions?
• 1:30:05
  God bless you. And thank you for coming up and
• 1:30:08
  I apologize for the aggravation towards the end of it.
• 1:30:10
  I don't know why have him contact, Donny and scheduled a
• 1:30:14
  debate and Donny shut him up. When it's my turn to talk real
• 1:30:18
  simple. Enough.
• 1:30:19
  Amen. Sounds good to me, sitting me
• 1:30:21
  question like that. I did answer his question.
• 1:30:24
  His question is invalid where did God come from?
• 1:30:26
  Is an invalid question? It's like we asking why our
• 1:30:29
  elephants Orange. They're not orange the
• 1:30:33
  questions. No good.
• 1:30:34
  But his question where that involves a limitation by
• 1:30:39
  distance or time or space did involves limitations by time
• 1:30:43
  past tense. God come from again limitations
• 1:30:47
  might he's trying to limit God, we're stuck in time space.
• 1:30:50
  Matter God is not God created time and space and matter.
• 1:30:55
  In 10 words in the beginning, their time, God created the
• 1:30:58
  Heaven space. And the Earth matter God is.
• 1:31:02
  Side of those. And each of those in that
• 1:31:03
  Trinity is also a trinity time has three parts past present
• 1:31:07
  future space has three parts. Length width height matter has
• 1:31:10
  three parts solid liquid gas Trinity of Trinity's made in 10
• 1:31:13
  words, the God that I worship is outside of those.
• 1:31:16
  He's not limited by time. This is not 2022.
• 1:31:19
  In heaven, God's already standing at your funeral.
• 1:31:22
  He sees all of time at the same time and is not the least bit
• 1:31:25
  surprised by anything. So the question is invalid, but
• 1:31:28
  if we can discuss that will do more in detail if you like
• 1:31:30
  Donnie on your show or Brett on yours but I demand equal time
• 1:31:34
  one Topic at a time and no interrupting Sydney.
• 1:31:38
  You go to standing for truth to know the guy that's in the room
• 1:31:41
  named dummy. He's got all the information
• 1:31:44
  description, email, if you would like to be able to go with vs,
• 1:31:49
  Ken Tobin on a discussion on that you're more than welcome to
• 1:31:52
  do that. Or I think he can also call you
• 1:31:55
  as well. But it looks at like sudden,
• 1:31:57
  he's wanting to debate with you. So if that's the case, this is
• 1:32:01
  an open discussion. From this isn't where we yell at
• 1:32:03
  each other cut each other off and call each other related
• 1:32:06
  strawberries, folks. Let's add mr.
• 1:32:09
  Phoenix to the room. Hello Phoenix.
• 1:32:12
  Hi Kent hovind, I did have one question.
• 1:32:15
  I did ask it before, I think you might have misunderstood it.
• 1:32:19
  I was want to know about other pastors that are King James
• 1:32:23
  version only to, you know, to learn from.
• 1:32:28
  So would you would you have any recommendations of others?
• 1:32:30
  I could listen to, besides you. Even though you're good.
• 1:32:33
  Yeah, they're quite a few pastors, who believe God
• 1:32:35
  preserved his word in the King James like me.
• 1:32:38
  There's a website called AV authorized version AV
• 1:32:42
  Publications.com, that's Gail. Riplinger his ministry in North
• 1:32:47
  Carolina, that is excellent for offending, the King James Bible
• 1:32:50
  against all others, and she would probably have a list of
• 1:32:53
  Pastor more than I would. I don't feel like that kind of
• 1:32:55
  stuff, but I do I speak at churches, of all different
• 1:32:59
  flavors and I'm not afraid of them at all, but she probably,
• 1:33:02
  You know, I know Pensacola Bible Institute in Pensacola Peter
• 1:33:06
  Ruckman, he's dead now but he did extensive work on that
• 1:33:09
  popped in the King James he wrote this series of books.
• 1:33:12
  Why I'm not a Mormon why? I'm not a Seventh-Day Adventist
• 1:33:15
  Peter S Ruckman, I knew him I had a lot of his students work
• 1:33:18
  at our ministry in Pensacola, he was rude.
• 1:33:21
  Crude crass mean and Brilliant but his books are excellent on
• 1:33:25
  the topic. He would know they keep a list
• 1:33:27
  of King James churches, I they did.
• 1:33:30
  Anyway, so go to Bible Baptist. First Church in Pensacola ask
• 1:33:33
  them, who's who's a King James in your area?
• 1:33:36
  Just because they're right on King, James doesn't mean they're
• 1:33:39
  right on every other Doctrine. Okay, that's a good start, but
• 1:33:42
  they could be screwing on something else.
• 1:33:44
  I couldn't recommend them just based on that.
• 1:33:46
  Okay. Anybody else for kids got to go?
• 1:33:52
  That's all I want. Thanks, I'm right Kent.
• 1:33:55
  It's always a pleasure to have. You love watching the debates
• 1:33:58
  over and standing for truth Channel with you and You have a
• 1:34:02
  Rockin day and God bless. Hey, thank you.
• 1:34:05
  Come, visit our dinosaur Adventure, Land in, Lenox
• 1:34:06
  Alabama. Love to have you.
• 1:34:10
  All right. God bless brother.
• 1:34:16
  Everything interview. Brett, I wanted to mention one
• 1:34:18
  thing and I know praise will have some thoughts on this too.
• 1:34:20
  Oh yeah. We got somebody.
• 1:34:22
  I want to bring in real quick. I gotta pull out the demon
• 1:34:24
  block, you gotta pull off the demon block.
• 1:34:39
  Why are you cool? Mr. Islam dawa, are you cool?
• 1:34:47
  All right, if you don't know how to talk or you know, I'm sorry,
• 1:35:01
  I got one for the right side to. There we go, David Walker is
• 1:35:07
  fantastic, bread. What's up standing?
• 1:35:10
  Sorry, but the interruption no worries, that's awesome.
• 1:35:13
  I love it, I love it. This the Sydney guy, bring him
• 1:35:17
  back. And if you want, I'm sure me and
• 1:35:18
  praise would love to go out on ya, I Want It All We ringing,
• 1:35:22
  man, I have so many things to say about new, The Logical
• 1:35:25
  thinking is irrational. I actually had told in the whole
• 1:35:29
  darn and that after Ken goes and all that is can't look like he
• 1:35:32
  was busy and I know how it is to be aggravated.
• 1:35:35
  When you got to go do something and all that, but he looks like
• 1:35:37
  he took off, he may come back in a little bit.
• 1:35:40
  I've talked to the guy in the past, he's usually more calm.
• 1:35:43
  I don't know why I got so wound up.
• 1:35:45
  Kent has a special Thing about him that just gets people
• 1:35:48
  excited. I don't know what it is and I
• 1:35:51
  can't is the master at triggering.
• 1:35:53
  These atheists, let me just say this vehicle, then you go
• 1:35:55
  brother. Yeah babe, I'm the perfect
• 1:35:57
  response and then it just went whoop, right over the guy's head
• 1:36:01
  and like the typical militant atheist, who just denies God's
• 1:36:05
  existence or more likely suppresses, the knowledge of
• 1:36:10
  God, he just starts repeating his angry at God talking points
• 1:36:16
  and Here's the thing. Okay, time is actually a created
• 1:36:23
  entity, right? The the first verse of the Bible
• 1:36:25
  reads in the beginning, God created the Heaven and the
• 1:36:28
  Earth. So, in the beginning, is when
• 1:36:30
  time began Before Time began Before Time matters base was
• 1:36:36
  brought forth. There was no time.
• 1:36:38
  There was no time before time was created.
• 1:36:41
  So his question about, you know, when did God, you know, start to
• 1:36:45
  exist or where did God come Come from it is, it's fallacious.
• 1:36:49
  It's silly, it's bad theology. Okay.
• 1:36:52
  Godsey, uncaused first cause and it's funny how he just says, you
• 1:36:56
  know, things like well the last hour and a half.
• 1:36:58
  You guys have just been denying science but yet provide zero
• 1:37:02
  counter rebuttal to. Anything being said any of the
• 1:37:05
  scientific base arguments being set, right?
• 1:37:08
  If you had a counter a response, you know, he would have brought
• 1:37:10
  it up so it's just a nonsensical question.
• 1:37:14
  And yeah, go ahead. What are your thoughts,
• 1:37:16
  Brothers? What do you think?
• 1:37:17
  About how my thoughts. Are this man?
• 1:37:19
  It's it's offensive to hear things like Christians don't
• 1:37:24
  know. Science or don't understand
• 1:37:26
  since ninety percent of scientists throughout the dawn
• 1:37:29
  of man have always been theists and people of Faith.
• 1:37:33
  The greatest thinkers of all kinds from Tesla to Einstein.
• 1:37:37
  Believe it or not, even Charles Darwin.
• 1:37:39
  And some of his writings, even though he was a junkie, who
• 1:37:41
  thought he was a monkey, he believed that God was required
• 1:37:45
  in order for evolution even work, Work.
• 1:37:47
  So I don't know where atheist get this idea that theists don't
• 1:37:50
  know science and they disrespected her dishonor.
• 1:37:53
  Know we have a problem with the Druid magic thing about you
• 1:37:56
  coming from slugs, everything else like the iPods, we like
• 1:38:01
  medical devices. We're good.
• 1:38:03
  He'll some of us even own MP3 players.
• 1:38:05
  We love us some science. Go ahead politeness springboard
• 1:38:08
  off of that. So what city doesn't understand
• 1:38:12
  is his view is actually irrational's infinite.
• 1:38:14
  Regress, that's a homonym. And Lucas fallacy is fallacious
• 1:38:20
  thinking to believe that there's an infinite regress.
• 1:38:22
  So you would have to appeal to something that's infinite and
• 1:38:25
  and obviously we have logicians and we have all types of
• 1:38:30
  philosophers out there that have destroyed this idea of an
• 1:38:34
  infinite regress. It's called the Grim Reaper
• 1:38:36
  Paradox. Hilbert's Hotel, infinite's
• 1:38:39
  don't exist. They are hypothetical their
• 1:38:42
  conceptual so they're not even real.
• 1:38:46
  So you have to To. So, what's basically the the
• 1:38:49
  whole the whole point of everything is there has to be
• 1:38:52
  something Eternal and it cannot be impersonal.
• 1:38:56
  Because if you go into ontology through the contingency
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  argument, the source of all ontology and contingency would
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  have to be independent absolute, it would have to be omnipotent
• 1:39:09
  would have to be omnipresent and it would have to be on Omni
• 1:39:14
  omniscient. So all those things Required for
• 1:39:18
  anything that is contingent in this world.
• 1:39:21
  We do see contingency, even the universe is contingent.
• 1:39:24
  So he he's actually, he has to fight, you know, through lot of
• 1:39:30
  logical, paradoxes and irrational thoughts.
• 1:39:33
  I just had to put that out. There is another thing to praise
• 1:39:36
  that cool him down, mr. Donnie is this, I don't know how
• 1:39:40
  many of you respect your enjoy listening to William Lane.
• 1:39:43
  Craig, I totally dig in, but the way he describes Is the universe
• 1:39:47
  and the singularity to me. The big bang is a supernatural
• 1:39:51
  Claim by definition. Its claiming that something
• 1:39:54
  existed out of the very laws of nature which by definition is
• 1:39:58
  Supernatural and it fits perfectly with the attributes of
• 1:40:01
  what we describe as God God living outside of nature, space
• 1:40:06
  and time and existence like this, it explains all of his
• 1:40:09
  attributes how he's able to do the things he can and how he's
• 1:40:12
  able to access mankind the way he does.
• 1:40:15
  That's all I got to say on. Hey man.
• 1:40:18
  Yeah well together Branch I go ahead break.
• 1:40:21
  Oh no I was just given those are good jobs or Brett well here's
• 1:40:25
  the thing and Kent nailed it when he pointed out that you
• 1:40:28
  know, God says he's The Great. I Am, he says, I am okay.
• 1:40:32
  He exists in eternity, he was not created.
• 1:40:35
  Here's the thing to understand time, right?
• 1:40:38
  We're stuck in time. And time is only meaningful if
• 1:40:41
  physical entities, exist and events transpired during time
• 1:40:46
  and like can't put it is a now. G with, with two computers
• 1:40:49
  arguing with each other. Right?
• 1:40:51
  Arguing about you know, who created the computers and is
• 1:40:54
  there anything outside of of the computer?
• 1:40:57
  If you're going to look to the computers, as an explanation for
• 1:41:01
  the computers existence, then you're never going to come to
• 1:41:03
  the true explanation. So, when it comes to God, there
• 1:41:06
  was no, you know, quote-unquote before God created, there was
• 1:41:11
  not even quote, unquote, nothing there was God, existing in
• 1:41:14
  eternity, he's the great. I am so, So these atheists, that
• 1:41:18
  bring forth is this silly question, which kind of became
• 1:41:22
  famous through Richard Dawkins type argumentation, it's just
• 1:41:26
  very unsophisticated in my opinion.
• 1:41:30
  I think it was Hitchens and actually came up with and it's
• 1:41:33
  like a 15 year old argument. That's been beaten with clubs
• 1:41:36
  100 million times but they never come up with their own new
• 1:41:40
  stuff. It's starting to get to a point
• 1:41:41
  where I don't even get to break a sweat anymore and I don't feel
• 1:41:44
  mental stimulation. When argument these folks same
• 1:41:46
  tired. Argument.
• 1:41:49
  Yeah, that's the same thing over and over again.
• 1:41:51
  Now with Evolution your RV's Erv is, you know, and then they get
• 1:41:55
  refuted on arvs and that's it. They're not like, like Wades.
• 1:42:00
  And that's, you know, that's the other thing that I keep bringing
• 1:42:02
  up all the time when with regard to this hold discussion and
• 1:42:06
  controversy is that this whole discussion, only reveals reveals
• 1:42:11
  one thing, ultimately, the other arbitrary and futility of
• 1:42:15
  atheism because with Christianity with when we get
• 1:42:19
  into these discussions about Evolution and the age of the
• 1:42:22
  Earth and all this other stuff, at least when our purpose at
• 1:42:25
  least there is an ultimate purpose for is because we're
• 1:42:28
  trying to glorify God and we want souls to get saved.
• 1:42:32
  We want people. We want Jesus and God
• 1:42:35
  Vindicated. So that people would establish a
• 1:42:38
  relationship with Jesus Christ so that they can inherit eternal
• 1:42:41
  life but see what the atheist. There's nothing after this
• 1:42:44
  world, you just die and poof. You you just cease.
• 1:42:47
  Exist and there's nothing else left.
• 1:42:49
  So all they're doing is wasting their time.
• 1:42:51
  Trying to look for Christians that they can debate on this
• 1:42:54
  issue because there's no, this ultimately, it's ultimately
• 1:42:57
  futile and they don't really even that eroded away too.
• 1:43:01
  Because ND he's now they're showing like there's
• 1:43:04
  Consciousness after death. Like it's pretty demonstrated.
• 1:43:09
  Now in scientific literature hospitals like it's all over the
• 1:43:13
  place, like there's nothing there's there's just no traction
• 1:43:16
  they can They have for their atheistic worldview that after
• 1:43:20
  you die, that this is your brain dies and you're done.
• 1:43:24
  But see, they would love that because I means they're not
• 1:43:27
  accountable to a higher power. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:43:32
  The in this is again, you know, going to the moral argument.
• 1:43:35
  This isn't one of the other reasons why they can't, you
• 1:43:38
  know, know that arguments can stand under heavy scrutiny with
• 1:43:41
  regards to the issue of morality.
• 1:43:43
  So, I had a question for you Brett because I want to clip
• 1:43:49
  out. Something I asked dr.
• 1:43:51
  Hoeven on a question about the pedophile and he answered it
• 1:43:55
  straight up. He didn't waver like there was
• 1:43:59
  no deception or anything and he's a true man of his word and
• 1:44:04
  all these haters of Kent hovind they can eat.
• 1:44:06
  And now from Smoky side to everyone else, I think, I think
• 1:44:11
  that was a great opportunity to share that clip.
• 1:44:13
  Maybe you guys can share it around.
• 1:44:14
  It was awesome. I've told everybody anybody who
• 1:44:17
  wants to use any of my videos are more than welcome, do that.
• 1:44:22
  The Only Rule I have is people not deliberately take things out
• 1:44:25
  of context or try to edit to make it say it's something
• 1:44:29
  that's not as far as smokey go. In the pedophile question that
• 1:44:33
  you brought up the people that he's talking about are more than
• 1:44:36
  willing to get on camera and talk and not hide behind some
• 1:44:39
  kind of smoky cloak crap and pretend, as though we don't know
• 1:44:42
  who their name is. So that's the difference that
• 1:44:45
  these people Our line you would think they'd pull a Josh and try
• 1:44:48
  hiding right there. Not.
• 1:44:50
  Yes speaking. Speaking of which brat, I
• 1:44:54
  listened to briefly to the conversation that you had with
• 1:44:57
  will. I don't know how long ago was
• 1:45:00
  maybe a day or two ago and it's morning where I kind of cutely.
• 1:45:04
  Set him up a bit. Yeah, that was amazing.
• 1:45:10
  Like wow, he's in. So what is so what is Josh got
• 1:45:13
  to do to really set you off to get you upset.
• 1:45:16
  You know what? Where, where where do you draw
• 1:45:18
  the line of something like that? Well, I missed it.
• 1:45:20
  I want to watch it now. What happened?
• 1:45:21
  Brett, well I'm basically will came in the room and praise and
• 1:45:26
  me decided to just kind of slow it down a little bit, bring it
• 1:45:29
  down to his speed for Will and we relaxed and we just got all
• 1:45:34
  nonchalant everything. And I was just like so we'll
• 1:45:37
  what would it take for you to want to punish Josh?
• 1:45:40
  If he does you wrong and Wells like Yankee, guess you could
• 1:45:44
  can't give him enough rope. He's ready to hang himself
• 1:45:46
  immediately and he does. And I said well with that being
• 1:45:49
  said, Mr. Praise. I'm going to go have me a
• 1:45:51
  cigarette, I just left him dangling.
• 1:45:53
  And by the way, I'm going to go have one right now.
• 1:45:55
  We're you guys talk about that while you got his garters
• 1:46:00
  defense down and then I yeah, straight up about Josh and he
• 1:46:03
  just nonchalantly answered. He basically said what is Josh?
• 1:46:08
  You know, got to do too. You know, too well how do you
• 1:46:12
  word it? The cross here or something like
• 1:46:15
  cross, your right? And then, we'll just responded
• 1:46:18
  by saying. Well, you know, if he does cross
• 1:46:20
  me if Josh just crossed me or something like that, but he
• 1:46:24
  didn't stop and think about what he said, because he because it's
• 1:46:28
  supposed to be talking about Smokey.
• 1:46:30
  Yeah, gosh. So if Will if Josh and Smoky and
• 1:46:33
  not the same, why is Will answering that question that
• 1:46:38
  Brett just asked if Josh and Mokey are not the same person
• 1:46:43
  caught red-handed. Yeah.
• 1:46:44
  It's it's all over the place man.
• 1:46:47
  Bob's got it on his channel, you know, obviously it's here, I
• 1:46:51
  think. Oh, thick Shades played a clip
• 1:46:54
  of it on his channel, as well. And yeah, man.
• 1:46:58
  So it's out, it's almost flabbergasting that there could
• 1:47:02
  be anybody out there, who, who hasn't put two and two together
• 1:47:05
  and not to mention the fact that it looks like Smoky Saints.
• 1:47:09
  Well there is pretty well just Wills Channel and Smoky
• 1:47:12
  apparently has like two side channels that if you click on
• 1:47:16
  their zero content there and it kind of looks like he's just
• 1:47:20
  been forced into early retirement.
• 1:47:21
  Now like he's just kind of trying to save face or something
• 1:47:25
  I don't know what's going on. We'll see his sick of fans will
• 1:47:29
  pray him back in. So You think he'll be back, I
• 1:47:34
  don't think he'll be back, he's going to be in proxy through
• 1:47:37
  will his mouthpiece but basically that'll be it.
• 1:47:42
  I don't think we'll hear Smokey maybe once a while come on and
• 1:47:45
  talk with will and do their BS show and it's always
• 1:47:49
  disrespectful. It's bad language foul language.
• 1:47:53
  Like if you would expect a Christian show to have more
• 1:47:56
  conduct than that and they never do, it's disgusting.
• 1:47:59
  Not to mention, blaspheming our Lord and savior.
• 1:48:02
  I mean, yeah. Option or even before I was
• 1:48:04
  saved, I didn't use the lord's name in vain, you know, when I
• 1:48:07
  was a Catholic, I just knew that was wrong and you know, these
• 1:48:09
  so-called saved Christians, just blaspheming our Lord and using
• 1:48:14
  his name in vain lying. These live shows.
• 1:48:17
  It's really, really off-putting. Yeah, and Smokey, just cackles
• 1:48:21
  and laughs, like, Timmy, why would you laughing?
• 1:48:23
  Yeah. You think he's related to Kamala
• 1:49:13
  the bread. Oh my gosh, it was so happened.
• 1:49:17
  What happened? What evil was spawned while I
• 1:49:21
  was away. You know, wait a second.
• 1:49:23
  Looks like Uncle, Sam zakah, limited smoking going downhill,
• 1:49:28
  Brett, you know, it's probably going to be flag shutting, I'm
• 1:49:30
  just kidding. I've got soldiers.
• 1:49:32
  Gave the The world's greatest sloppy saying impression, let's
• 1:49:37
  hear that would end their laughs.
• 1:49:51
  Hey, by the way, What email did you send do?
• 1:50:04
  The I said that the guy in the the chat is an impersonator.
• 1:50:08
  That's not me. Oh, all right.
• 1:50:11
  Yeah. Oh really unclean Sam and the
• 1:50:15
  chats. Not you
• 1:50:32
  clearly he's screwing with you seriously.
• 1:50:37
  Whatever it is. That's not me.
• 1:50:39
  So Being that unclear. So I recommend you to actually
• 1:50:43
  kind of remove that kind of, that kind of crap, and I think
• 1:50:47
  it might just be playing with you, that's not very nice Bond.
• 1:50:50
  Well, let's set it up.
• 1:51:02
  Let's do next week sometime, I think it'll be fun.
• 1:51:05
  It'll do me a favor email, and day and time.
• 1:51:08
  That's good for you that way. I know for I'm sure you're going
• 1:51:11
  to be busy and you going to be totally chill.
• 1:51:13
  Let's do it. I'm looking forward to a man.
• 1:51:15
  You're putting on some good shows here, so I'll give you a
• 1:51:18
  deep breath because we gotta do this.
• 1:51:25
  Yeah, yeah, praise. We got to come on.
• 1:51:27
  Maybe even me and mad. And just demolish.
• 1:51:30
  The very best so-called Arguments for fish to fishermen
• 1:51:34
  Evolution, praise. I hear you're dismantling these
• 1:51:39
  Evo's. The old Clubhouse.
• 1:51:41
  I don't. Yeah, they brought up your RV's
• 1:51:44
  because I said they're functional in this Dean bad.
• 1:51:46
  So me that I know there was something that debunked.
• 1:51:48
  So that's what I want you to hear this because it might even
• 1:51:51
  help you equip you to even make better arguments, you know, like
• 1:51:56
  Capri or Arsenal make it better fear, arsenal of attack, you
• 1:51:59
  know. Yeah, I like that well
• 1:52:02
  especially because I'm working on a book right now.
• 1:52:04
  It's coming along nicely so I want to leave no stone unturned,
• 1:52:07
  right? So if there is an argument in
• 1:52:09
  favor ER of er vs that I want to hear it, I want to make sure I'm
• 1:52:13
  addressing everything, so it went to then I'm going to
• 1:52:16
  forward it to them with the Erv. in darkness, retrovirus What
• 1:52:27
  what they say basically vehicle is we've got these shared viral
• 1:52:35
  infections between humans and chimpanzees that they say we've
• 1:52:41
  inherited over the course of you know millions of years, a common
• 1:52:46
  ancestor between humans and chimpanzees got infected with a
• 1:52:50
  retrovirus and the retrovirus was passed on.
• 1:52:54
  And you know, eventually there was a human and NZ split humans
• 1:52:58
  went one way, chimpanzees one another and the reason why we
• 1:53:01
  have these shared what they call Erv sequences is because, you
• 1:53:06
  know, common descent Evolution. So that's, you know that they're
• 1:53:10
  big argument there. They're using these days that's
• 1:53:13
  kind of to break it down in basic form.
• 1:53:16
  Does that kind of make sense? Yeah, I'm okay, I remember
• 1:53:20
  somebody explaining this to me years ago.
• 1:53:22
  Yeah, I remember now. Yes, sounds familiar.
• 1:53:26
  It's not big. It wasn't the idea though Downey
• 1:53:28
  that we can get sick from all kinds of different animals.
• 1:53:31
  Hell, we can get rabies from them.
• 1:53:33
  We can get what was that mad cow merp bird.
• 1:53:35
  Flu all kinds of crap. How does that prove that we come
• 1:53:38
  from Strawberry? So exactly.
• 1:53:42
  Related to strawberries. Well, they'll say, because we
• 1:53:46
  share so many of these sequences these herbs sequences, they're
• 1:53:52
  called, then it's, it's to it would be too much of a
• 1:53:56
  coincidence. It would be very unlikely that
• 1:53:58
  we inherited them independently. But here's the thing about about
• 1:54:03
  the sequences is they resemble what's called exoticness
• 1:54:07
  retroviruses and exogenous retrovirus would be like HIV,
• 1:54:10
  right? You can get HIV.
• 1:54:11
  Ivy. And in fact, you and then, you
• 1:54:13
  can pass it on from person to person horizontally, but you
• 1:54:16
  can't pass it on vertically. So someone with HIV can't pass
• 1:54:20
  it on to their kids. It doesn't get passed on
• 1:54:22
  vertically. But the theory goes, if one of
• 1:54:27
  these types of viruses again, they're called exoticness
• 1:54:29
  retroviruses. If they, in fact, a germ cell
• 1:54:33
  line like a reproductive cell and then through sperm and egg
• 1:54:39
  and zygote, it's passed on. To The Offspring, The Offspring
• 1:54:43
  is going to have that Viral DNA and all of its cells that will
• 1:54:46
  be passed on over time as the theory goes and apparently,
• 1:54:50
  there's too many spots according to the evolutionist, in the
• 1:54:53
  human and chimpanzee genome where we have these genome
• 1:54:56
  Accord, Uncle fossils for you know the creation model to
• 1:55:01
  explain. But here's the thing I'll say is
• 1:55:03
  these spots that they look to and Collie RVs Brett.
• 1:55:07
  They're actually necessary to sustain healthy life processes
• 1:55:11
  in the cell 4. Example, one of these, you know,
• 1:55:14
  quote-unquote CRVs, I don't even like calling them.
• 1:55:17
  He RVs I call them created units of DNA function.
• 1:55:20
  The evolution has got to name it first, right?
• 1:55:22
  So I guess we're stuck with it which is a lot of the times the
• 1:55:25
  case unfortunately. So without these sequences
• 1:55:28
  actually and they'll admit humans wouldn't exist as in,
• 1:55:32
  they are essential for embryological development and
• 1:55:35
  one of their functions is this is what blows it out of the
• 1:55:38
  water. This is what destroys their
• 1:55:39
  argument, one of the functions of these?
• 1:55:41
  These elements DNA elements is to guess what, fight off viral
• 1:55:47
  infection. So if an exotic is retro, virus,
• 1:55:49
  infects your cell, you actually have these DNA elements of the
• 1:55:52
  evolutionist calls, the RV's, you have these to perform what's
• 1:55:56
  called viral mimicry. So they mimic the invading virus
• 1:56:00
  to kind of lower its defenses and then they kill it.
• 1:56:03
  So the reason why they look a bit like extent viruses is
• 1:56:07
  because one other jobs is actually destroy them.
• 1:56:10
  So here's the answer. The reason why we share these
• 1:56:13
  types of elements with the humans and humans and
• 1:56:16
  chimpanzees is because they're there for functional purposes.
• 1:56:19
  So yeah, I wouldn't say that they were actually the ancient
• 1:56:25
  remnants of past viral infections, know they're created
• 1:56:27
  that way. So if they're created that way,
• 1:56:29
  then the reason why we share them with the Chimpanzee is
• 1:56:32
  because of Common design. You know, it it's more of a
• 1:56:35
  technical argument. I hope that made sense but be
• 1:56:39
  refuted. Is that a part of?
• 1:56:41
  I mean, the way you described it, it sounds like it's a
• 1:56:44
  mechanism of the immune system. Yes.
• 1:56:47
  Yes. And I've got, I've got dozens of
• 1:56:49
  papers that for one, I've got cited in the book I'm writing on
• 1:56:54
  it. But when I debate these guys, I
• 1:56:55
  got just debated snake was right on it, he's in cell biology.
• 1:56:58
  So he knows a thing or two about it and I shared screen.
• 1:57:02
  I said, how do you explain these He's technical papers from your
• 1:57:04
  own literature. The secular literature admitting
• 1:57:07
  that without these Erv sequences.
• 1:57:10
  We pretty much wouldn't have an immune system.
• 1:57:12
  They function in the immune system, they function in
• 1:57:15
  embryological development, they literally helped to determine
• 1:57:18
  cell types and you're telling me that these are the result of
• 1:57:22
  ancient viral infections millions of years ago.
• 1:57:24
  No know if viral DNA is injected into your cell brat, okay, what
• 1:57:29
  that's going to do is disrupt genetic functionality, it's not
• 1:57:32
  going to Create novel functions is not going to make things
• 1:57:36
  better, okay? And they have no answer
• 1:57:38
  essentially for these functional roles.
• 1:57:42
  So, you know, it's their number one, you know, best line of
• 1:57:46
  evidence for evolution. So that's why I spend a lot of
• 1:57:48
  time on it because I like to dismantle their what they think
• 1:57:52
  is the best lines of evidence for common to sabot.
• 1:57:54
  Now it's trash, it's easily debunked.
• 1:57:56
  So See. This is so on whenever you the
• 1:58:01
  way you describe that and even whenever you get down to the
• 1:58:03
  very basics of the concept of evolution, it doesn't even seem
• 1:58:07
  like Evolution itself, helps out the atheist whatsoever.
• 1:58:12
  Because even Darwin he believed that it was that it required the
• 1:58:16
  higher power, the intelligence to do it because there's so many
• 1:58:19
  mechanisms and things going on with purpose and logic and
• 1:58:24
  rationality to them. That's just simply not possible
• 1:58:27
  with Unguided process. No, it's not.
• 1:58:33
  What we see is evidence of Forward Thinking, which is as
• 1:58:37
  praise likes to use this argument, two points us back to
• 1:58:40
  a forward thinker. So if you have these DNA
• 1:58:43
  elements that they want to call herbivore, Erv sequences that
• 1:58:46
  are actually there. Okay, there a defense mechanism
• 1:58:49
  there in our, it's like your computer.
• 1:58:51
  Okay, here's a good analogy. Your computer has Norton,
• 1:58:54
  Antivirus, you have the different antivirus programs or
• 1:58:57
  if you do get a virus, your antivirus Hands are going to
• 1:59:02
  stop that prevent it from happening.
• 1:59:04
  That's literally what we have in our genome with these sequences
• 1:59:07
  that are designed with similar properties to these bad bad
• 1:59:10
  viruses. But they need those properties.
• 1:59:12
  So if we do get infected with a bad virus, bam, they know what
• 1:59:16
  they're doing. It's their job to fight off
• 1:59:17
  these viruses you. How do you evolve that?
• 1:59:20
  I mean, even evolutionist will point out that natural selection
• 1:59:25
  for one works in the short-term or long-term it doesn't think,
• 1:59:29
  you know what we're going to need.
• 1:59:31
  Need functional DNA elements to fight off viruses.
• 1:59:35
  So we're going to evolve that no it's just selection doesn't have
• 1:59:38
  a mind. But these mechanisms point us to
• 1:59:41
  a mind, does that make sense? It's not just that you brought
• 1:59:45
  up a good analogy with Norton Norton.
• 1:59:48
  Has to already have the information and some of the data
• 1:59:51
  of the sequences used in these viruses in order to do what you
• 1:59:55
  refer to as mimic, it is able to spot it, identify it, and then
• 2:00:00
  it goes after it and destroy it. It.
• 2:00:02
  That's that's a damn machine right there.
• 2:00:04
  That's a design. Bam.
• 2:00:09
  You nailed isn't that an amazing feature?
• 2:00:11
  Another amazing feature of these ER vs is, they're involved in
• 2:00:16
  tumor suppression. So again, because of their viral
• 2:00:19
  like properties, okay, they can actually function in a way where
• 2:00:26
  the immune system will fight off tumors and stop cancer, prevent
• 2:00:33
  cancer. I mean there's so many defense
• 2:00:35
  mechanisms, like you pointed out Brett that are Fully integrated
• 2:00:39
  into the systems that make life life and without them, I've got
• 2:00:43
  a technical paper, not a young Earth, creationist paper, a
• 2:00:46
  technical paper from the secular literature where they literally
• 2:00:49
  had met. If we did not have these
• 2:00:52
  endogenous retroviral sequences humans wouldn't exist.
• 2:00:55
  We require them for embryological development.
• 2:00:59
  They've done genetic Narco test in mice, okay?
• 2:01:02
  It's you can't do it in humans, obviously, it's unethical.
• 2:01:06
  Thank God. But In mice they snip it out.
• 2:01:10
  Okay they knock out this the specific class of retro
• 2:01:13
  transposon or Erv and the mouse is developing nicely the snip it
• 2:01:20
  out, it dies, it can't even fully developed.
• 2:01:23
  But without the sequence and you're telling me that this came
• 2:01:25
  about through evolutionary processes, this is evidence for
• 2:01:28
  evolution. Give me a break.
• 2:01:29
  It's pseudoscience that's rough. It was rough.
• 2:01:34
  So how far along are you on your book?
• 2:01:37
  You were saying that you're putting them.
• 2:01:38
  Together. Good question.
• 2:01:41
  I would say my goal is to have it done in a month.
• 2:01:43
  So usually we have programs like every other day.
• 2:01:46
  Now, I'm doing them like every three days, because I'm working
• 2:01:50
  about six to eight hours a night on it.
• 2:01:53
  And I'm getting a lot of behind-the-scenes, help with
• 2:01:56
  some creation, scientist, who I highly respect.
• 2:02:01
  And we're just doing a lot of kind of discussion behind the
• 2:02:04
  scenes, and its really good. So I'm hoping to have it done in
• 2:02:08
  a month added it. So, I would You know, within the
• 2:02:10
  next couple months I'd like to have it.
• 2:02:12
  It's a handbook. So you know, it'll probably be
• 2:02:14
  about 100 pages and I would say I'm about halfway done, so
• 2:02:19
  anyone's interested in it when it's when it's out pack, I'll
• 2:02:22
  send you a PDF, I don't care. I just want to put this one to
• 2:02:25
  bed. This is my goal.
• 2:02:27
  I'm kind of I'm sick of it. Every single debate, you know,
• 2:02:29
  it's their number one line of evidence.
• 2:02:31
  So it's my goal to just have a handbook out there for all our
• 2:02:34
  brothers and sisters to pull up. Every time these guys bring up
• 2:02:37
  this argument in the US, Had an opportunity to look into a guy
• 2:02:41
  by the name of Stephen Meyer. I've got his books behind me.
• 2:02:47
  Actually the return of the god hypothesis is newest.
• 2:02:51
  One praise can tell you a lot about him.
• 2:02:53
  Yeah he's fantastic. I love Steven here.
• 2:02:57
  Boy, it would be cool if we could get him into a discussion,
• 2:03:00
  right? I would pay you Brett.
• 2:03:02
  I'll give you money if you need some anytime, whatever.
• 2:03:06
  Financial help, I would love to get him on there.
• 2:03:08
  I had that'd be so awesome ten thousand dollars right now.
• 2:03:12
  Praise there might be done, I don't know if you guys know who
• 2:03:17
  had argued with Hitchens, whenever he was alive and tore
• 2:03:23
  him up or, and communism and all that.
• 2:03:25
  But Dinesh has a YouTube channel.
• 2:03:27
  Woman. Apparently he would got the
• 2:03:28
  opportunity to interview him recently.
• 2:03:30
  It's pretty good. You guys are check it out.
• 2:03:32
  There's three parter. Yeah, he was on Chris dates
• 2:03:38
  Channel till now, Christie got him, but he went to these lower
• 2:03:41
  channel so you have a chance. Brett.
• 2:03:46
  Well, if I figure out some way, if there's some kind of contact
• 2:03:49
  information, you know, me that just recently, I'd called
• 2:03:53
  reasons to believe. Remember price.
• 2:03:59
  Yeah, there's other ones out there though.
• 2:04:01
  You can that are maybe not big as Steven Mayer but little bit
• 2:04:05
  smaller game trying to think of some really good ones out there.
• 2:04:10
  Demske Casey forget his name now but Skin Casey luskin.
• 2:04:17
  Look up him. O'Reilly you guys need to send
• 2:04:21
  me a list of some of the cold people you look at and stuff.
• 2:04:24
  Looks like you guys already know most of the folks that I respect
• 2:04:27
  and get into Oh yeah, yeah, this Evolution crap is you.
• 2:04:35
  They kind of forces you to get into some of these really good
• 2:04:38
  spokesman for intelligent design and and then there's really good
• 2:04:43
  creationists out there to that door, just as fantastic as you
• 2:04:47
  maybe. Even some of the like Stephen
• 2:04:48
  Meyer, like that Don, he's had on his channel sot that he's
• 2:04:53
  interviewed. You should look at some of that
• 2:04:55
  too. Well, one guy I'd recommend to
• 2:04:58
  guys, actually the most up-to-date On human evolution is
• 2:05:02
  called, contested bones. Okay, write it down if you have
• 2:05:06
  to I highly recommend it. The authors are Christopher Roop
• 2:05:09
  and dr. John Sanford, John Sanford's the
• 2:05:12
  genius who wrote genetic entropy and recently spoke at the NIH
• 2:05:16
  regarding human degeneration and the main author that book
• 2:05:21
  though, Christopher rope, he's got a degree in biology, and
• 2:05:25
  he's currently finishing his dissertation in geology.
• 2:05:28
  So he's kind of a jack-of-all-trades.
• 2:05:30
  He'll have Degrees in. Geology and biology, and he's
• 2:05:34
  published papers on genetic entropy, and That's genetics.
• 2:05:39
  So, he's gotten all of their, but I've been chatting with him
• 2:05:41
  for a pretty well, hours a day on these.
• 2:05:45
  He's helping me with certain arguments with the Erv handbook,
• 2:05:50
  but he's awesome. And his book, contested bones
• 2:05:53
  gets into all the, the most up-to-date arguments were, human
• 2:05:57
  evolution. All the so-called hominids from
• 2:05:59
  Hobbit and The ladee to set about it.
• 2:06:02
  SS. You name it, and I'll gut said,
• 2:06:05
  Gibbons favorites and so I highly recommend that one.
• 2:06:08
  And yeah, Steve actually, that was it.
• 2:06:11
  That's what I was going to ask praise, what were your thoughts
• 2:06:15
  of the Anthony Rogers shows? Pretty good A brother.
• 2:06:18
  Oh man, that was epic. What a show?
• 2:06:20
  Like he's such a beast. Dude, I learned so much from him
• 2:06:24
  and like all these really hard questions.
• 2:06:26
  He made them look simple. Like it was he was just knocking
• 2:06:29
  them off, like he's Incredible incredible.
• 2:06:34
  Anthony Rogers is not one to be played with when with regards to
• 2:06:40
  the doctrine of the Trinity, man.
• 2:06:42
  So, I'm going to watch that again.
• 2:06:44
  I only I was only able to watch Snippets of it at the time that
• 2:06:47
  you were airing, but I'll definitely watch it again.
• 2:06:51
  Yeah, I'm sure he is on real man.
• 2:06:53
  The amount of knowledge he has on some of these questions to
• 2:06:57
  that for me. I mean I'm not a trinitarian
• 2:06:59
  apollomon time trinitarian but that's not my expertise and some
• 2:07:02
  of Questions, you know, I was thinking like I wouldn't even
• 2:07:04
  know how to answer these and he just just killed it.
• 2:07:08
  I mean, he's a, he's an encyclopedia of information.
• 2:07:11
  Fantastic debater to man, these Oneness, guys, they don't stand
• 2:07:14
  a chance against them that's unreal.
• 2:07:18
  No, they have, what's his name? The one that one, this guy Casey
• 2:07:24
  or was all man. I forget his name, her bill
• 2:07:27
  tailored pill. Yes, and Taylor Stewart's
• 2:07:35
  talking mad trash in the comp. Well, that video, if you go to
• 2:07:38
  the comment section is 90% one. These people, they're just so
• 2:07:41
  triggered and using arguments that we had really, I just
• 2:07:45
  responded to a couple of them. I said, did you comment before
• 2:07:47
  you watch The video because your comment is literally like
• 2:07:53
  identical to a question. We address for 20 minutes like
• 2:07:56
  what's going on here guys? Yeah, he's a that that other guy
• 2:08:02
  you mentioned them. What is his name standing or
• 2:08:06
  something like standing something for truth or something
• 2:08:10
  they heave standing for facts. Remember that guy's name?
• 2:08:13
  Is that that Unitarian guy stand on scripture?
• 2:08:21
  Yes, pinned intend on scripture. That guy is such a, he gets so
• 2:08:26
  triggered on everything, but all he does.
• 2:08:29
  This over exaggerate things, you miss represents trinitarians
• 2:08:33
  even the arguments for God, like you can't take him serious, he's
• 2:08:36
  a total militant antique basically you know deity of
• 2:08:43
  Christ and trinitarian. He should change his name to
• 2:08:46
  stomping on scripture is takes the plain reading of scripture
• 2:08:51
  and just stands on and Stomps all over.
• 2:08:55
  Yeah we do. I had him on a few months back.
• 2:09:05
  There was a train wreck, you know, I really respect.
• 2:09:13
  Anthony Rogers. Kelly Powers, Matt slick.
• 2:09:16
  Praise, you've a call. I mean you guys are all
• 2:09:18
  fantastic Defenders of Of the Trinity cell.
• 2:09:24
  Aw, man, I appreciate that. Yeah, well, I just give.
• 2:09:27
  Thanks to God. I've got to learn a lot but, you
• 2:09:29
  know, I basically, I think God is really guided me through all
• 2:09:32
  these truths, and it's pretty cool.
• 2:09:35
  Pretty awesome. The Trinity is awesome.
• 2:09:37
  Amen! Brother.
• 2:09:38
  There's so many important topics and I love that were digging
• 2:09:40
  deep on all of them. Right.
• 2:09:42
  You know that okay, creation evolution.
• 2:09:45
  Of course, this was ton, a ton of fun but I like what you do
• 2:09:48
  here, I think I'm going to do one show similar to this style
• 2:09:52
  in the future. I'm going to call Cat.
• 2:09:53
  I like how Kent comes on and when it comes to questions you
• 2:09:59
  you it's like a radio show. You bring the guys in, you know
• 2:10:02
  what I mean? And let them have their
• 2:10:04
  question. Little bit of back and forth
• 2:10:06
  that keeps it fun that keeps an interactive Brett probably
• 2:10:09
  walked away to have a smoke so I don't know if he's hearing me
• 2:10:11
  but yeah our love that format through.
• 2:10:13
  Yeah yeah and cats really good off the hook like he can go into
• 2:10:18
  a number of different topics here.
• 2:10:21
  Yeah. He's always prepared with slides
• 2:10:26
  books. I can admit.
• 2:10:28
  You can never catch them off guard.
• 2:10:30
  I really respect that. He's just got like 800 bucks.
• 2:10:34
  Right? Right by me.
• 2:10:35
  No matter what current. Yeah, Scott we got this book
• 2:10:37
  here and this book here, I'm telling you, man, it's bad for
• 2:10:43
  these Evolutions right now in 2022.
• 2:10:45
  I mean, they got like, they got nothing really at this.
• 2:10:48
  Even their best dogs are just failing.
• 2:10:51
  Your damn Cardinals, Herman Maze of World, Herman Maze, and Dan
• 2:10:54
  Cardinal. Did a video recently trying to
• 2:10:56
  refute Jensen's new book, man, what a disaster.
• 2:11:01
  That was Oh yeah. So you know they're going to
• 2:11:05
  come out with another common ancestor coming up or they think
• 2:11:09
  they found the intermediate species that you know the
• 2:11:13
  transitional thing because every like almost like every three
• 2:11:16
  years someone has to discover something.
• 2:11:20
  So I think it's coming out pretty soon.
• 2:11:21
  The new one is going to come out there.
• 2:11:24
  I'm back guys. Hopefully I didn't miss anything
• 2:11:26
  extremely awesome. I got a question for you all.
• 2:11:29
  I don't know if you've ever heard this question before.
• 2:11:32
  If you were to find a let's say, we went with the hypothetical
• 2:11:36
  millions or billions of years. If you were to find a deformed
• 2:11:41
  fossil, how would you be able to tell the difference between it
• 2:11:44
  and supposedly? Transitional fossil?
• 2:11:47
  Well, that's a fantastic question.
• 2:11:49
  And that is what the major hypothesis is right now.
• 2:11:54
  At least with a lot of young Earth creation as myself,
• 2:11:56
  especially that a lot of the So called transitional forms that
• 2:12:03
  they look to for human evolution specifically you know, there's
• 2:12:11
  fluorescein, you got the fancy name.
• 2:12:13
  So like fluorescein says which is The Hobbit okay so they look
• 2:12:15
  to what's called The Hobbit as a primitive, human homo naledi.
• 2:12:22
  Obviously the astrology with essenes neanderthalensis erectus
• 2:12:25
  so on and so forth. So it turns out that a lot of
• 2:12:27
  what they think is is Transitional brat.
• 2:12:30
  These bones that they pick up and say look at this you know
• 2:12:32
  they call it basil. Okay, primitive or basil to the
• 2:12:38
  features we have today as modern humans.
• 2:12:40
  It turns out that these are not actually primitive in the
• 2:12:43
  they're not transitional, they're actually what you said
• 2:12:46
  degenerate evidence of pathology and we actually know this for a
• 2:12:49
  fact because a lot of these so-called hominids, they existed
• 2:12:55
  in isolated small populations and they were highly highly
• 2:12:58
  inbred. Okay.
• 2:12:59
  So when you have An isolated population where you've only got
• 2:13:02
  a few thousand and they're all marrying within each other
• 2:13:05
  really, really quickly. You're going to have these
• 2:13:07
  deleterious, mutations come to the Forefront and what they'll
• 2:13:10
  do is they'll lead to Rapid morphological degeneration which
• 2:13:14
  means going to have these a typical features.
• 2:13:16
  He's a typical bones and they can tell just by looking at them
• 2:13:21
  and examining them and seeing that they're oftentimes to form.
• 2:13:25
  So they're not evidence for evolution there.
• 2:13:27
  Evidence of human populations. That are highly inbred and
• 2:13:32
  unfortunately degenerate so they're not primitive their
• 2:13:35
  degenerated. Does that make sense?
• 2:13:37
  Brett. Yeah, we see this guy on the
• 2:13:40
  left and the image whose a couple videos of them out there.
• 2:13:44
  Sadly, he's deformed. And apparently his tribe, they
• 2:13:47
  pick our name and they call him the monkey, man and all that the
• 2:13:50
  guy on the left and the top DC, right?
• 2:13:53
  Yeah. Well, not Beaver.
• 2:13:55
  Yeah, he's got a, he's got a skull structures.
• 2:14:00
  I don't know what the word is, but it's basically pressure
• 2:14:03
  doubt. He is in a lot of pain and all
• 2:14:06
  that. Because of the deformity, and I
• 2:14:09
  mean, how would you be able to tell the difference?
• 2:14:11
  I just, I just don't see how you would, especially if it's, you
• 2:14:15
  know, most fossils. A lot of people don't realize
• 2:14:17
  this, but they don't come together.
• 2:14:20
  They don't assume they don't, usually, they find a couple
• 2:14:23
  pieces and then they put it together and then they take some
• 2:14:26
  would sculpt some other crap along with it, in order to get a
• 2:14:29
  representation. And what they're trying to sell.
• 2:14:33
  Well, here's the thing and that's such a brilliant point.
• 2:14:35
  Because a lot of these secular paleoanthropologist, and I've
• 2:14:41
  got quote after quote, Bill, admit that when it just comes to
• 2:14:44
  a bone in the dirt, a fossil especially without genetics.
• 2:14:47
  Because a lot of these fossils, come fragmented, like you said,
• 2:14:50
  isolated bits and pieces. A lot of the most of the fossil
• 2:14:53
  record is just bits and pieces of skulls and teeth.
• 2:14:57
  I mean, back in the day, they had what was called a Nebraska
• 2:15:00
  man, and it was all based on a single tooth and illustrations
• 2:15:04
  in textbooks. Would have Nebraska man, somehow
• 2:15:06
  Faith, half man, standing next to his wife and kids.
• 2:15:09
  Wow, one single tooth, and they knew what this entire Man's
• 2:15:12
  family won't. Like it turned out years later,
• 2:15:14
  the tooth belonged to a pig. Famous NE Nebraska man, fraud.
• 2:15:22
  So you know, they do this all the time.
• 2:15:23
  With these isolated bones, they build these wild stories.
• 2:15:28
  They'll admit that oftentimes it's very very difficult, almost
• 2:15:32
  impossible to tell the difference between what is, you
• 2:15:36
  know, in their mind transitional or primitive and what is just
• 2:15:41
  the result of degeneration or pathology because there's
• 2:15:43
  something called founder of facts.
• 2:15:45
  That picture you showed Brett is sad, you know, that's it's a sad
• 2:15:50
  reality because when it comes to founder of facts, You could have
• 2:15:54
  a small population. This is what happened.
• 2:15:56
  I would say. After Babel, the Babel dispersal
• 2:15:59
  is you'd have these groups of humans that would migrate, let's
• 2:16:05
  say to an island. Okay.
• 2:16:06
  That's where you find the hobbits and you only have a few
• 2:16:09
  founding individuals. They're okay.
• 2:16:11
  And now there's they're stuck on an island, they're isolated.
• 2:16:14
  So after a few Generations, they have these pathologies or they
• 2:16:17
  have these degenerative features, they become fixed in
• 2:16:20
  the population. So what that means is these
• 2:16:23
  Teachers are now, the norm of the populations, you have an
• 2:16:26
  entire population that is essentially experienced
• 2:16:29
  morphological degeneration so that population of degenerative,
• 2:16:33
  humans they go extinct, they died out.
• 2:16:36
  Okay. You can only go so long like
• 2:16:38
  that and then thousands of years later, these paleoanthropologist
• 2:16:41
  dig up the bones of these humans.
• 2:16:44
  Right. And a lot of them because
• 2:16:46
  they've got the ape to Man story as a starting point.
• 2:16:48
  They say look you know this is our primitive ancestor.
• 2:16:52
  When in fact it's It's a subpopulation of humans that
• 2:16:56
  went into degeneration, it's the opposite of evolution and again,
• 2:17:02
  the last thing I'll say is a lot of them have admitted.
• 2:17:04
  This is very difficult for us to tell.
• 2:17:06
  What is Transitional and what is just the result of degeneration.
• 2:17:10
  So, What's up brother? I know this is in not
• 2:17:14
  politically, correct to say nowadays, but dwarves and
• 2:17:18
  midgets. How do you, how would you be
• 2:17:20
  able to tell the difference between something like that of a
• 2:17:22
  long, long time ago? Finding some fossil pieces of
• 2:17:26
  this. Exactly.
• 2:17:28
  If you look at the the famous, you can Google a hobbit species,
• 2:17:32
  their fancy term. And the the fancy name for him
• 2:17:34
  is homo floresiensis because there are found on the island of
• 2:17:37
  Flores and on that island you even find pygmy.
• 2:17:41
  The elephant's dwarfed elephants.
• 2:17:44
  And they're trying to say that this is an irrefutable example
• 2:17:47
  of human evolution. It's like this is an example of
• 2:17:50
  what's called Island dwarfism. You have a population of humans.
• 2:17:54
  Get stuck on an island and what eventually happens due to lack
• 2:17:57
  of food. Lack of resources is natural.
• 2:18:00
  Selection will actually act on the brain because the brain is
• 2:18:04
  the most energy is very energetically costly, okay?
• 2:18:07
  Requires a lot of a lot of food nutrients to thrive.
• 2:18:11
  So over time the brain shrinks, you'll see a lot of these
• 2:18:14
  Evolutions like aronra got to Gibbon Bill Ludlow they'll line
• 2:18:18
  up, you know, so-called examples of human evolution from smaller,
• 2:18:22
  brain, to bigger brain. I'm sure you've all seen it.
• 2:18:25
  When in fact, the smaller brain is not demonstrating human
• 2:18:27
  evolution. It's demonstrating a dwarfed
• 2:18:30
  population. That's been isolated on an
• 2:18:33
  island and over time. The feature of smaller brain
• 2:18:38
  size has become fixed because now, guess what That human group
• 2:18:43
  does not require as much food as much resources because now their
• 2:18:47
  brain is shorter. It's actually what's called in
• 2:18:50
  the, in the scientific literature, reductive Evolution,
• 2:18:54
  reductive Evolution. That doesn't explain the
• 2:18:57
  evolution of higher life-forms. This is reduction of
• 2:19:01
  pre-existing systems and features.
• 2:19:03
  That's not evidence for evolution evolutionist.
• 2:19:07
  Alright, Danny, I posted something in private chat for
• 2:19:10
  you. If you're interested, I have
• 2:19:13
  seen that some eight years ago actually tried to use the bones
• 2:19:16
  of these things as an argument for evolution but they're
• 2:19:19
  actually in Long gated skulls of wars and a lot of these two Wars
• 2:19:23
  ended up having an elongated because they used to do what
• 2:19:25
  some of the tribes in Africa did, where they put these tight
• 2:19:29
  bandages around the back of their skulls for whatever
• 2:19:31
  reason. I don't remember the ritual but
• 2:19:34
  it caused the back of the skull to stretch out.
• 2:19:37
  I've been noticing non-believers trying to use that thinking that
• 2:19:40
  they're going to pull a fast one.
• 2:19:42
  Hey Brett if you heard of OTA benga.
• 2:19:45
  That's a big word right there. Praise work with me sir.
• 2:19:52
  Yeah OTA benga praise explain. That whole situation.
• 2:19:56
  That's a prime example of what results from The evolutionary
• 2:19:59
  worldview. Yeah.
• 2:20:01
  So there there was a but I think it was out there like some
• 2:20:05
  somewhere near maybe like Like Florian's.
• 2:20:07
  I'm flurry that island but I know is a, an island type of
• 2:20:12
  tribe of people that there is a person called OTA benga.
• 2:20:16
  He was a smaller black guy, like a real short, midget type of
• 2:20:20
  black guy, and they thought they put them in a zoo because they
• 2:20:24
  thought he was an intermediate species of human and ape.
• 2:20:28
  So they treated him as an animal.
• 2:20:30
  And they put, they put chains around his neck and they, they
• 2:20:34
  were walking them around like an animal.
• 2:20:36
  So, Is what we get with Evolution.
• 2:20:38
  This it's extreme racism and I mean Eugenics and everything
• 2:20:43
  else that goes along with it. It's into me and evil ideology.
• 2:20:47
  That's the devil, of course, had his hand and then trying to
• 2:20:52
  Buffalo people in Hoodwink. People to believe this false
• 2:20:57
  ideology That's where a lot of these atheists dictators.
• 2:21:01
  Got their views from Darwinism caused them to believe that
• 2:21:04
  there was such things as Superior races and such.
• 2:21:08
  Yeah. Let me put up a nice one for you
• 2:21:10
  guys. Yeah, here we go.
• 2:21:14
  Yeah, yeah. But apparently you know it's
• 2:21:17
  Christianity and creation. That's dangerous.
• 2:21:21
  But in fact, look at that, an atheist seem blown away.
• 2:21:27
  Because the only resource they have is George Carlin, claiming
• 2:21:30
  it religions dangerous, but according to history, atheists
• 2:21:34
  have killed more people than all of the religions combined,
• 2:21:37
  including Islam. I know people are gonna be like
• 2:21:39
  what you in Islam. Yeah, they had the highest
• 2:21:42
  suicide rate the highest substance abuse rate, which I
• 2:21:46
  think correlates with the suicide problem.
• 2:21:48
  Here I'll throw this up right here.
• 2:21:50
  Here you guys see that? I can throw you guys a stats up
• 2:21:55
  if you ever want to use it in the discussion or if you already
• 2:21:58
  have it, Well, religion is dangerous.
• 2:22:02
  It's their religion, that's dangerous.
• 2:22:05
  It's atheism, can be very religious and become part of a
• 2:22:09
  state religion, that it's becomes, their God atheism.
• 2:22:14
  And it destroys anyone that comes in their way, and
• 2:22:18
  unfortunately, it's been the biggest blot on Humanity.
• 2:22:22
  Since the end of the, the golden, where does it there?
• 2:22:26
  The Soviet Union, the cold, the Cold War, And that's what we're
• 2:22:31
  seeing today. Is the result of God being
• 2:22:35
  removed from a nation God, being removed from from schools.
• 2:22:40
  I mean, we just see The Descent in the depravity of these
• 2:22:47
  nations now and where we're heading is, you know, it can be
• 2:22:51
  scary but it's a prime example of what happens when you try to
• 2:22:58
  suppress God, suppress his morals.
• 2:23:01
  And I mean, some of the stuff that you see going on right now
• 2:23:05
  is just unbelievable. I mean, you know, my parents or
• 2:23:10
  grandparents, you know, if they were told what the future is
• 2:23:13
  going to be, like the, in these countries me and Canada.
• 2:23:16
  You guys in the states, they wouldn't believe it.
• 2:23:19
  They literally, wouldn't believe it.
• 2:23:21
  No. Oh, I got something for you.
• 2:23:23
  Praise and Downy that you like. Can't he really likes us?
• 2:23:27
  I found this cute little clip. What Richard Dawkins, you may
• 2:23:32
  want to put this in your intro. You ready for this standing?
• 2:23:36
  Let's do it, brother. Here we go.
• 2:23:39
  Jeans are information, they're coded information, it's even
• 2:23:44
  looks like computer information. I mean, a chromosome is a great
• 2:23:48
  long computer tape. It's linear runs. 11 dimensional
• 2:23:53
  digital code. It's not binary, it's
• 2:23:56
  quaternary. But apart from that it's just
• 2:23:59
  the same as as computer tape. It's read in sequence.
• 2:24:04
  It's copied and Pasted from one part of the organism to another
• 2:24:09
  in just the same way as as a computer programmer would copy
• 2:24:14
  and paste. So biology has turned into into
• 2:24:18
  computer science copied and pasted from one part of the
• 2:24:22
  organism to another in just the same way.
• 2:24:24
  As as a computer programmer would copy and paste as a
• 2:24:31
  computer programmer would copy and paste.
• 2:24:36
  I love, that was really good. Yeah that is amazing right there
• 2:24:42
  and that's why people like Godless engineer.
• 2:24:45
  The most militant atheists out there.
• 2:24:47
  They're not even taken seriously, you know, for one of
• 2:24:50
  these guys are Jesus mythicist, and secondly, they deny that.
• 2:24:54
  DNA is a code now. Richard Dawkins he's not dumb
• 2:24:58
  enough to deny the fact that DNA is a code.
• 2:25:01
  He's just going to say that natural selection has
• 2:25:04
  essentially designed the code but where there's a code Oh,
• 2:25:09
  there's a coder. And what's so funny is these set
• 2:25:11
  of instructions because Dawkins was pointing out that we have
• 2:25:17
  this linear array of letters. Well, now we actually know that
• 2:25:22
  these set of instructions I guess you could say on the
• 2:25:26
  genome, their Dynamic self-regulating.
• 2:25:29
  But listen to this. They are nested and
• 2:25:32
  multi-dimensional as in the way that they change shape and fold
• 2:25:38
  in time. That actually determines their
• 2:25:41
  their functional roles is amazing.
• 2:25:43
  Okay, we write books, right? And we read books that can be
• 2:25:47
  read forwards, DNA literally reads forwards and backwards and
• 2:25:53
  if you read every other letter, you get another message.
• 2:25:57
  So you have three different messages in one string of
• 2:26:01
  letters of nucleotides. I mean, this is information
• 2:26:04
  compression into every single DNA letter.
• 2:26:08
  Of code. And this apparently came about
• 2:26:11
  naturally for no reason at all. I mean, this stuff is mine, but
• 2:26:16
  it's science fiction, and you've even got Dawkins admitting to
• 2:26:19
  it. It's crazy.
• 2:26:21
  We got somebody out here called just a nobody says bright.
• 2:26:24
  You have a big collection of good quotes and clips and all
• 2:26:28
  that. Yeah, before I became a
• 2:26:30
  Christian, I was an atheist for a long time.
• 2:26:32
  I used to watch these guys, and listen to them, and they got
• 2:26:35
  themselves in the so many Hooks and deadlocks.
• 2:26:38
  Never came Devolution. I just I couldn't hold on to
• 2:26:42
  that view anymore. It was just like, yeah, there's
• 2:26:45
  something wrong here. Indeed, indeed.
• 2:26:53
  I mean, how do these evolutionists like Richard?
• 2:26:57
  Dawkins just says that, right? But then he denies a designer.
• 2:27:01
  How do they explain? I want to see, I don't want to
• 2:27:04
  see a story. I want to see empirical evidence
• 2:27:06
  as to how their praised evolutionary mechanisms of
• 2:27:10
  selection. Mutations can build the
• 2:27:14
  four-dimensional genome with multiple overlapping codes and
• 2:27:18
  chock, full of information. How did that come about?
• 2:27:21
  How do you not pray? Is and, and follow and Fall on
• 2:27:25
  Your Knees and worship the Creator.
• 2:27:27
  When you look at the DNA language is, unbelievable.
• 2:27:31
  Yeah, I agree with all natural selection did it?
• 2:27:37
  That's their god of the gaps natural selection did it?
• 2:27:41
  Oh, thanks a lot for not answering the question.
• 2:27:44
  Well, what do you know inside? Zeus sot, how do you know it's
• 2:27:47
  not the spaghetti monster here, derp derp.
• 2:27:51
  Oh, there's the other and this is the answer.
• 2:27:54
  I hear a lot of money. I've heard it from a to sauna
• 2:27:56
  times, but if it wouldn't a done it and gave them the special
• 2:28:01
  abilities. Hey, what'd just not, it's like
• 2:28:04
  Yeah, obvious. How about that?
• 2:28:06
  And if it would be very indignant ages for me to grow
• 2:28:09
  bat wings, so I can save on gas too, but you don't see me
• 2:28:12
  involved in any anytime soon. Well, and that's why I'll never
• 2:28:16
  be on board with this theistic Evolution garbage.
• 2:28:19
  Evolution is a religion of death.
• 2:28:21
  I've heard these, a theistic evolutionist try and say you
• 2:28:23
  know the evolutionary process of pond scum to people is you know
• 2:28:29
  God's beautiful way of bringing forth man.
• 2:28:32
  It's like what billions of years of death disease, cancer,
• 2:28:37
  survival of the fittest, is the way God chose to bring about my
• 2:28:43
  hand. What They make it sound like
• 2:28:48
  he's causing like continuously making mistakes and trying to
• 2:28:52
  fix it until he finally got to where he's one of these yes
• 2:28:58
  probably it's billions of years until he finally got it right
• 2:29:06
  you know and I love the audacity by somebody.
• 2:29:08
  They got his creator. I'm on the phone.
• 2:29:15
  Two people. Hold on one second.
• 2:29:18
  I gotta change the the newspaper at the bottom of her cage.
• 2:29:21
  Be right back. Yeah. 99 percent of species in
• 2:29:27
  the history of the Earth have gone extinct and have suffered
• 2:29:32
  in order to bring about man, is the beautiful process that God
• 2:29:36
  chose according to the theistic evolutionist.
• 2:29:39
  Unreal. You know, seems to mean Donnie
• 2:29:43
  when you look at it and I've said this quite a few times, I
• 2:29:46
  believe that atheism leads to and directly straight into Nile
• 2:29:52
  has and there's just no way around it.
• 2:29:54
  Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's the ripple effect of
• 2:30:00
  atheism is so many different horrible things that we've
• 2:30:06
  experienced. I mean, socialism communism,
• 2:30:08
  Nazism Darwinism, you know, Eugenics and it's just a sad
• 2:30:16
  State of Affairs. And you see that always the same
• 2:30:19
  talk about, they got Sydnee guy earlier, just like such
• 2:30:22
  childish, childish questions, Listen Sydney, either God is
• 2:30:28
  eternal, the on cause first, cause who exist in eternity?
• 2:30:32
  Or the universe is eternal? But wait a minute Sidney.
• 2:30:36
  We've got the first and second law of Thermodynamics.
• 2:30:38
  The first law is matter and energy.
• 2:30:40
  Can neither be created nor destroyed?
• 2:30:41
  Okay, wait a minute, but the second law of Thermodynamics is
• 2:30:44
  the law of increasing entropy. Okay, so that means, if you take
• 2:30:49
  this point of increasing entropy in the universe back to a point
• 2:30:53
  of least increasing entropy Okay, well, that means if things
• 2:30:57
  are winding down, they can't wind down forever.
• 2:30:59
  You get to a point of lease increasing entropy and you know
• 2:31:04
  what that means. That's a point where matter and
• 2:31:06
  energy. Can neither be created nor
• 2:31:07
  destroyed. According to the first law, that
• 2:31:09
  means matter and energy had to come forth or be created by an
• 2:31:13
  outside agent. That's the only way to explain
• 2:31:16
  it because the universe cannot be Eternal because the second
• 2:31:20
  law destroys that that's it. So Sydney's going to have to
• 2:31:24
  then say that the universe. Is eternal.
• 2:31:26
  But that's contrary to all known scientific laws is this the real
• 2:31:32
  Nephilim Freer. It's topic on that.
• 2:31:34
  Somebody, it's me how you guys know from your always a good to
• 2:31:38
  hear from you know, good to see you guys.
• 2:31:46
  Good to see you now boy. I hope you're well man.
• 2:31:50
  Thank you, likewise Neff is the evolution Destroyer bread as you
• 2:31:55
  probably. Probably know this guy is
• 2:31:57
  Legend. I'm in Anna's rooms in the past.
• 2:32:00
  I've seen him Terry atheist from limb to limb and they weren't
• 2:32:03
  evolving their lizard Tails back.
• 2:32:10
  So now, if you've been listening in, on the topic with some of
• 2:32:13
  your views and point, obviously, you got some, well, you guys are
• 2:32:17
  talking about Evolution and I'll just point out the evolutionists
• 2:32:21
  play this little little card swap game, Michelle game, really
• 2:32:25
  might say, With Eva Lucien they'll point to morphological
• 2:32:29
  change that we observe take place in creatures.
• 2:32:32
  We're my creatures produce varieties of themselves and
• 2:32:35
  they'll they'll they're swapping that out with anatomical change.
• 2:32:40
  They're trying to equate the to see to get the land dwelling
• 2:32:43
  creature. For example, use the classic
• 2:32:45
  example to get the land dwelling creature with legs and lungs
• 2:32:49
  digits tendons muscles nerves. That didn't exist in the fish.
• 2:32:53
  You can't. You can't just change the Shape
• 2:32:56
  of the creature of the form and structure.
• 2:32:58
  You've got to have anatomical change, right?
• 2:33:02
  And so even if some is play this shell swap game where they swap
• 2:33:06
  morphological change with, even with anatomical change and say
• 2:33:10
  see illusion happening. See because we're going isms can
• 2:33:14
  produce varieties of themselves in there.
• 2:33:15
  Can be differences in shape form the structure like the
• 2:33:19
  difference in the size of the shape of the skull of a
• 2:33:22
  Chihuahua is different from that of Macaulay, you know, they
• 2:33:25
  look, you know, Now use a different kind of animal, not
• 2:33:27
  dogs, but say, look Eeveelution happening and that's that's it's
• 2:33:33
  a mistake and but it goes over the head of most people don't
• 2:33:36
  catch it and they think oh oh. I see what you mean.
• 2:33:39
  Yeah. That's Eeveelution happening.
• 2:33:41
  All right, but it's not because there's no anatomical difference
• 2:33:44
  between a Chihuahua and a collie.
• 2:33:46
  See that's not anatomical change see but Eeveelution is play that
• 2:33:51
  game on the time and they beguiled people because they'll
• 2:33:53
  point to the fact that organisms can Changed.
• 2:33:56
  Yes, that's true. And they'll say, well, there you
• 2:33:58
  go. See evolution is happening and
• 2:34:00
  that's, that's a mistake. It's not, it's, that's not true.
• 2:34:03
  That's not sufficient evidence of evolution doesn't actually
• 2:34:07
  support the evolution Theory. I mean, by itself it would
• 2:34:09
  happen, but the would be morphological change of people
• 2:34:12
  who can mature, but it might something insufficient.
• 2:34:14
  You have to have anatomical change for Eeveelution to be
• 2:34:18
  true. And so, that's a shell game that
• 2:34:21
  you've Illusionist select. Amen.
• 2:34:24
  Amen, I got a point something alive.
• 2:34:26
  Love when Naf and in one debate that comes tomorrow comes to
• 2:34:30
  mind. Was I moderated.
• 2:34:33
  I think three years ago now, me and ROM at moderated at that
• 2:34:36
  time, was the debate of the year.
• 2:34:37
  We raided never ceases, Jackson, wheat in r.j.
• 2:34:41
  Downer, those guys. Those guys are so like, have you
• 2:34:45
  noticed how they've just both? Those guys have completely
• 2:34:48
  fallen off. Like, those guys have been
• 2:34:50
  forced into early retirement that they got one and that
• 2:34:53
  debate that they were literally scream.
• 2:34:55
  Meaning at me, interrupting you every other word.
• 2:34:59
  It just got annihilated. And I love watching you nuff
• 2:35:04
  asked for examples of the type of Novel change that would be
• 2:35:09
  required, right? The type of meaningful change
• 2:35:11
  that would be required to take a fish.
• 2:35:14
  The fishermen essentially, and all they give is morphological
• 2:35:17
  change after morphological chain after morphological change.
• 2:35:21
  And you point out that is not the type of change that's
• 2:35:24
  necessary to take. Your bacteria like organism into
• 2:35:27
  a biologist. You need true anatomical changes
• 2:35:31
  and you point that out perfectly enough.
• 2:35:34
  Thank you. Yeah, that was guys man.
• 2:35:37
  They were livid they were absolutely blowing their caps.
• 2:35:40
  I mean, they were screaming bloody murder bleeding in the
• 2:35:43
  brain was on fire, man. It was just crazy.
• 2:35:46
  Hey way. Which debate was this?
• 2:35:47
  I want to see it now. It was me against two, very
• 2:35:54
  outspoken. Evolutionists at the same time
• 2:35:57
  as me against true. Okay.
• 2:35:59
  There's about we've had some good times man
• 2:36:14
  over the last few years. Michael.
• 2:36:19
  Yeah, save that for later, man. We have the last three years.
• 2:36:24
  We have really, really I think as a group in have cornered
• 2:36:29
  these Evolution as most of them now are shy away from debate.
• 2:36:33
  I mean, they're sick of being decimated a now.
• 2:36:36
  Yeah, that's true. You've done an amazing job done.
• 2:36:39
  Any of, you know, getting a an audience and getting the truth
• 2:36:44
  out to people, you have guests on your shows that, you know, Or
• 2:36:49
  academics and get, get some real science, not the pseudoscience
• 2:36:54
  but get some real science out there.
• 2:36:56
  And you've done a great job of turning your channel into a
• 2:37:00
  place for people to watch man, and I can't and I commend you
• 2:37:04
  for that. It's, you've done a good job of
• 2:37:06
  it. I appreciate it, brother.
• 2:37:09
  You've been a huge help, huge encouragement, and motivation.
• 2:37:13
  I got to find you some evolutionists to.
• 2:37:15
  I've had you on dozens of times, but it's been a few months now,
• 2:37:18
  so I miss Watching You In Action now.
• 2:37:21
  So we got to get you another debate, brother sounds good.
• 2:37:24
  I like that. Oh yeah, you know the dinosaurs
• 2:37:29
  like with the paintings of the dinosaurs and stuff, Neff.
• 2:37:34
  I mean, I learned so much, I couldn't believe it.
• 2:37:36
  There's a lot of evidence out there for dinosaurs back, you
• 2:37:39
  know, a couple thousands of years ago, so that's pretty
• 2:37:42
  awesome. In fact, yeah, they evidence
• 2:37:46
  that man walked with Dinosaurs is actually quite strong.
• 2:37:51
  It's very strong x-ray. If you ask me, it's irrational,
• 2:37:55
  that all the various tribes of mankind would invent these
• 2:37:59
  creatures that just happen to have lived in the past.
• 2:38:02
  You know and don't talk about having encountered them, you
• 2:38:06
  know and being able to paint them and grow them you know
• 2:38:11
  there's got to be something to that.
• 2:38:13
  It can't be. It's not logical that all these
• 2:38:15
  various tribes of mankind invented, the same kinds of
• 2:38:18
  creatures all over the place. Independently of Shelter.
• 2:38:21
  It just doesn't make sense. No.
• 2:38:25
  But they'll make these excuses. Well, no, that was just someone
• 2:38:30
  painting a sky God and they try to like re explain what was
• 2:38:35
  drawn. Like, you can see a huge tail, a
• 2:38:38
  huge long tail on this dinosaur looking image.
• 2:38:41
  And they'll try to say no that's just some other God image or
• 2:38:45
  some other tribal thing is discussing how they try to
• 2:38:48
  manipulate and try to change the ETA is II made a little slide
• 2:38:54
  presentation, based on that. There's a Native American piece
• 2:38:58
  of Native American art, where they drew up.
• 2:38:59
  What's obviously, sauropod dinosaur, Giant sauropod and so
• 2:39:05
  II did something to demonstrate the atheist denial.
• 2:39:08
  I drew a little, I use that image, I superimposed it made
• 2:39:11
  him a cartoon out of it, not calling Freddy the dinosaur, and
• 2:39:15
  I have him standing in, you know, with the grassy Knolls
• 2:39:17
  behind him in. So here's Freddie the dinosaur,
• 2:39:20
  right. And I used it so that I
• 2:39:22
  superimposed it right over the rock where the Native Americans
• 2:39:25
  that drugs May the dinosaur, you know and I said oh so let's
• 2:39:29
  superimpose ready the dinosaur on Iraq.
• 2:39:32
  Well now we have Freddy the dinosaur on Iraq.
• 2:39:34
  Everybody can see that's obviously a giant sauropod,
• 2:39:37
  dinosaur. And so, hey, let's do something
• 2:39:40
  interesting. Let's remove the superimposed
• 2:39:43
  ready. The dinosaur and see what the
• 2:39:44
  Native Americans grew, and it's exactly the same shape, right?
• 2:39:48
  And they, and when I did that, the a Let me loose mnestheus
• 2:39:52
  that I was chatting with you. We want?
• 2:39:54
  They just got so upset, they were going.
• 2:39:56
  They just because it was so obvious that their denial that
• 2:40:00
  do that doesn't look like a sauropod.
• 2:40:02
  Dinosaur that could have been something else.
• 2:40:03
  Was just ridiculous right now, it's just your denial and that's
• 2:40:07
  why I made that little slide presentation because it
• 2:40:09
  demonstrated that they're just obviously in denial of
• 2:40:12
  something. And when I've shown it to them,
• 2:40:14
  they just get very upset because I'm exposing their denial.
• 2:40:19
  Yeah, it's somebody You're asking me about my pet raccoons
• 2:40:23
  possum in my cats, we have 20 stray cats that we take care of
• 2:40:27
  and we got a paralyzed raccoon it's got its ass in paralyzed.
• 2:40:31
  Parently it's not evolve in its back legs back very sad but it
• 2:40:35
  does enjoy cat food so we're good.
• 2:40:38
  Wow. I feel sorry for that.
• 2:40:42
  Poor animal. As long as you keep them out of
• 2:40:44
  your attic. Yeah,
• 2:40:55
  yeah. We get a we live way out in the
• 2:40:57
  woods. We live really, really deep out
• 2:40:59
  in the woods to the point where even Jason Voorhees, what one of
• 2:41:02
  those is that frightening. But yeah, we get a lot of
• 2:41:05
  animals. Be careful.
• 2:41:09
  Praise might be lying around straight in your neighborhood.
• 2:41:13
  You have to pick him up. Oh goodness, gracious.
• 2:41:18
  Will you guys like the woods? Are you guys country folk good
• 2:41:22
  on Country folk? Yeah.
• 2:41:27
  Man, being nephew cell. Good dude, I thought, like, you
• 2:41:32
  know, we were wondering what happened to you and hope that
• 2:41:34
  your help is gonna be, you sound, good, man.
• 2:41:36
  Why did you think something's wrong with me?
• 2:41:39
  Yeah. Like, well, we were running
• 2:41:41
  about your health and stuff, like, if you went if you're
• 2:41:44
  having some health problems which you know, what they sound
• 2:41:47
  good? That's good to hear.
• 2:41:47
  Think God for that. Okay, yeah, I guess.
• 2:41:51
  I'm all right. Appreciate that.
• 2:41:53
  I've been around for a while with my thought she evolved the
• 2:41:57
  Taylor something could move around.
• 2:42:02
  No, I just, you know I just kind of dropped off the scene doing
• 2:42:07
  live streams and I kind of just stopped doing it for a while
• 2:42:12
  there and so that's all I debate in Discord.
• 2:42:16
  A lot Discord is a chat application of free chat and I
• 2:42:21
  debate atheists and evilish myths and Calvinists there in
• 2:42:25
  Catholics to I tried doing the Discord thing.
• 2:42:30
  That's some rough grounds right there, enough oof.
• 2:42:34
  Yeah. I'm sorry, I don't recognize
• 2:42:40
  your voice, but the Amazon music thing is hiding your name.
• 2:42:46
  Oh, let's meet at you just? Okay.
• 2:42:50
  Well, who was, who was talking with someone?
• 2:42:53
  What the hell? Oh, okay.
• 2:42:57
  All right. Well, I guess I've seen and all
• 2:43:03
  that, I'm not one of these narcissist out here and you too.
• 2:43:08
  Yeah, I was. So when are you going to record
• 2:43:10
  some tracks for me or something? So I can use some intros for my
• 2:43:14
  own show. Look at you with your guitar
• 2:43:18
  back. You're just teasing those
• 2:43:23
  interest. Yeah, we need a guitar off with
• 2:43:29
  Bruce, and I renig both of those with, at the office and
• 2:43:33
  Washington. I think Bruce Bruce is actually
• 2:43:38
  a musician. I'm not really.
• 2:43:40
  I just I'm still practicing. And I, I have a few songs, I can
• 2:43:44
  play. But anyways, I'm not very good.
• 2:43:50
  I'm Amy. No campfire guitars.
• 2:43:53
  Yeah, yeah, that's cool. That's my scene.
• 2:43:58
  Dan, just looking for some chilling.
• 2:44:00
  Originals, killing originals are you, grooving it there on my
• 2:44:05
  teen 70s. Speak Ruby.
• 2:44:07
  The neck groovy groovy man. Feeling groovy.
• 2:44:15
  That's hip. They have better.
• 2:44:19
  Well, they had good music in the 70s.
• 2:44:21
  Don't like that feeling. Yeah.
• 2:44:27
  There was a lot of good music in the 70s.
• 2:44:30
  Definitely I like 80s music that better myself, but yeah. 70s was
• 2:44:38
  good, though. Oh, I wanted to say something
• 2:44:42
  about dinosaurs. So there's these more of like,
• 2:44:46
  you calm new-age Christian liberal, Christians will say
• 2:44:50
  that in the Book of Job, the tail, that's mention in Joe, but
• 2:44:54
  still long as a cedar, they say now that's a penis of a
• 2:44:59
  hippopotamus has an big penis their price.
• 2:45:03
  Oh yeah, yeah. This is where they're going to
• 2:45:06
  know because of The outright I get so apparent that's a
• 2:45:10
  dinosaur in Jobe. Like it shows you there's a
• 2:45:12
  create or not Evolution height, it's just being hyperbolic about
• 2:45:16
  the hip of, or whatever. It's an absurdity to say.
• 2:45:21
  Such a thing I've seen a atheist academics claim that the Bible
• 2:45:26
  is talking about a hippo. Or in fact, there was a
• 2:45:30
  Christian who did. So, I think it was, who's the
• 2:45:33
  guy? I've forgotten his name from
• 2:45:35
  Brown University Claimed if chromosome 2 Fusion was not
• 2:45:39
  true. Then evolution is not true.
• 2:45:41
  Then got his hat handed to him by discoveries about that.
• 2:45:45
  Oh, shoot Catholic. He's a Catholic.
• 2:45:49
  Let's just name. He talked about long and hard
• 2:45:51
  and raw video. Aronra got him to get me a guest
• 2:45:55
  on his show. Allegedly refute the statements
• 2:45:57
  that I made in when I refuted aronra about something, he got a
• 2:46:01
  couple of atheist. I couldn't let me know evilish
• 2:46:03
  missed, I could then mix it gets together at a talk.
• 2:46:07
  About me and try to put down the arguments but was just named
• 2:46:12
  Dennis lamoureux know he's from Brown University's University
• 2:46:16
  Professor. Yes, I know you're talking
• 2:46:19
  about. I can't I'm just, I don't know
• 2:46:22
  man. I'm not all there today or
• 2:46:24
  something can't slow. Today, can't remember his name?
• 2:46:27
  Cranwell Donnie, are you there? You ought to know who it is.
• 2:46:30
  What's his name? Barney's, taking a Hiatus.
• 2:46:36
  I guess I told you my voice is the cure for insomnia, it
• 2:46:40
  happens. He probably fell over over
• 2:46:42
  there. Speaking of Aaron wrong in his
• 2:46:45
  lack of understanding and science.
• 2:46:47
  Have you guys seen the clip I put together for?
• 2:46:50
  Oh, Aaron Rawley. You guys seen it yet?
• 2:46:53
  No, I haven't seen it. All right.
• 2:46:54
  So watch what he claims about the universe and to be add extra
• 2:46:59
  salt to the wound. I used atheist scientist to beat
• 2:47:02
  up Aaron. Are you ready for this?
• 2:47:06
  Yeah, here we go. But again, we didn't come from
• 2:47:09
  nothing and no scientist believes that we ever came from
• 2:47:11
  absolutely nothing. The Big Bang is not something
• 2:47:15
  from nothing. Even when cosmologist talk about
• 2:47:18
  a universe from essentially nothing, they don't mean an
• 2:47:20
  absolute philosophical. Nothing.
• 2:47:22
  In fact, they don't think that an absolute nothing is even
• 2:47:24
  possible because every time they try to create a perfect vacuum,
• 2:47:26
  they noticed Quantum fluctuations of subatomic
• 2:47:29
  particles popping in and out of existence where there shouldn't
• 2:47:31
  be anything. Yeah.
• 2:47:32
  As the idea that there could be literally nothing which then
• 2:47:35
  from which Something suddenly Springs and it mean it is very
• 2:47:40
  hard to grasp it and I certainly can't grasp it.
• 2:47:43
  The something from nothing from literally nothing and that's
• 2:47:47
  what really gets people. That's the one that's really
• 2:47:49
  counter to Common Sense and they clearly misunderstand what you
• 2:47:54
  mean by nothing. So it will exactly it start with
• 2:47:58
  absolutely nothing. That means, unlike the Cardinal
• 2:48:01
  said, and unlike some people argue no particles, But not even
• 2:48:07
  empty space, no space whatsoever, no space whatsoever
• 2:48:13
  and maybe even no laws governing that space and maybe even no
• 2:48:16
  laws governing that space. And What did you think then?
• 2:48:23
  Who did great. That was really good.
• 2:48:28
  It's Ken Miller know if that's a guy's name.
• 2:48:31
  Yes. Ken Miller.
• 2:48:32
  Thank you. Yeah yeah that's funny.
• 2:48:34
  A bunch of people have ridiculed Krauss for his ridiculous.
• 2:48:40
  Something. Nothing actually means something
• 2:48:43
  garbage. It's the most ridiculous trashy
• 2:48:46
  ever heard. Yeah, I think I think Bill Craig
• 2:48:55
  and him you know, he did that Australian tour thing that was I
• 2:48:59
  think that was Bill. Craig probably just exposed that
• 2:49:04
  for what it was. That means clearly.
• 2:49:06
  It's like nothing. No we're talking about nothing
• 2:49:09
  not something. Oh, miss you, Tony Sayers is
• 2:49:14
  here. Tony.
• 2:49:15
  You said that you wanted to bring up something with me.
• 2:49:19
  This is going to be a rennicks favorite thing to talk about
• 2:49:22
  here. Go ahead.
• 2:49:23
  Tony, what's your question her? What were you going to tell me?
• 2:49:27
  No, no, I know but we brought in one of my videos and I think
• 2:49:41
  it'll be a great. Discussion.
• 2:49:43
  No, nobody's going to yell at your scream at.
• 2:49:45
  Yeah, you know I love you brother but go ahead bring it
• 2:49:48
  up. Yeah, no, no.
• 2:49:52
  I understand where you're coming from the point.
• 2:50:02
  I was trying to make it basically is number one.
• 2:50:07
  First and foremost, I personally, believe, every
• 2:50:10
  individual is different. You know, we all do things for
• 2:50:14
  different reasons, and I'm John by agree with you.
• 2:50:19
  Making our own way Tony. Let me try and put it to you
• 2:50:22
  this way, so we can kind of get the ball rolling a little bit
• 2:50:25
  faster. That way we can cut right
• 2:50:27
  through the cheese. What is the difference between
• 2:50:30
  an other? Can a person who believes that
• 2:50:32
  they're an animal over that of a transgender go ahead, do you
• 2:50:36
  told you and rennick? You're going to love it.
• 2:50:39
  Well, I guess it depends on who you ask again.
• 2:50:42
  What you're asking me between someone who's convinced that
• 2:50:47
  there's some form of animal that they actually are an animal, not
• 2:50:51
  an evolved animal, but an animal over that as someone who
• 2:50:54
  believes that they're of a different gender, go ahead.
• 2:50:57
  Well, I think the main difference is that one believes
• 2:51:01
  there and the other one believes that there are a man or a woman
• 2:51:09
  I guess that's my understanding, right?
• 2:51:12
  So what's the difference? They question Brad.
• 2:51:23
  If you don't know the difference between an animal and a man, and
• 2:51:25
  a woman. Oh, you're hating your hating be
• 2:51:30
  the point. I was trying to make in my clip
• 2:51:32
  was, there's people out there who have unusual thoughts and
• 2:51:37
  they decide to identify themselves based upon what
• 2:51:41
  they'd like as opposed to the actual facts or science.
• 2:51:45
  The Tony says he's got something to offer to bring to the Table
• 2:51:49
  that might bring some validity to it and it has Tony knows I
• 2:51:53
  love him and I'm always open-minded to hear new things.
• 2:51:57
  Well, for me there's no justifying like, like if like
• 2:52:02
  tomorrow I say, oh, I believe I'm a dog.
• 2:52:06
  Well, I can believe all I want is what it is.
• 2:52:13
  It's all in your genetics and that's again.
• 2:52:24
  What would be the difference between someone having a Journal
• 2:52:27
  or state of mind that they are three-headed dragon dog monster
• 2:52:33
  over someone who thinks that they're of a different vendor
• 2:52:36
  that they're not they have not biologically been born to I
• 2:52:39
  think that's that that would be referred to as taking to taking
• 2:52:45
  things to the extreme like a it's one thing to think.
• 2:52:48
  If you're a man, you really feel like you're a woman inside, you
• 2:52:53
  feel more you can relate to being a woman and vice versa.
• 2:52:57
  Woman relating to be a man. What does it feel like to be a
• 2:53:00
  woman? I was going to say, how does a
• 2:53:01
  man know what it feels like to be a woman to know to recognize
• 2:53:06
  it. Well, some people have this
• 2:53:11
  issue starts, when you're young, especially, you know, like a
• 2:53:14
  child childhood days, they just need the, they feel
• 2:53:19
  uncomfortable in the skin, not because Society will because it
• 2:53:22
  just feel. I feel like something is off,
• 2:53:24
  you know, like there's individuals like that in the
• 2:53:28
  world. And every, like I said, there's
• 2:53:31
  people out there, there's a guy in Australia, who thinks that
• 2:53:34
  he's the second coming of Jesus Christ.
• 2:53:37
  I mean, what is the difference between someone's thought
• 2:53:39
  process and the actual facts though?
• 2:53:42
  These people got all kinds of weird feelings.
• 2:53:44
  I used to think that I look like Tom Selleck you know in his
• 2:53:47
  prime but that was simply not true.
• 2:53:50
  All right? I think they some people, take
• 2:53:53
  it to the extremes, you know, and people also do things for
• 2:53:58
  the wrong. Sometimes like I said in the
• 2:54:01
  last show that when I was on your show there are some
• 2:54:05
  unfortunately some transgender men that became that way because
• 2:54:11
  of past relationships, things went sour with their wife or
• 2:54:15
  their girlfriend. So if you're all held at women,
• 2:54:18
  I'm just going to be a woman. You know that?
• 2:54:20
  That's what I say you're doing it for the wrong reasons.
• 2:54:23
  You know, you don't really want to be a woman, you just left
• 2:54:26
  your inner toying with turmoil, you want to retaliate, you know,
• 2:54:30
  you want to lash out at anyone change everything so that I
• 2:54:33
  could I interrupt? Of course it's an open
• 2:54:36
  conversation. Okay so I'm not I'm not privy to
• 2:54:40
  this other conversation or whatever but Tony what's your
• 2:54:43
  position or I mean do you have a belief about this stuff?
• 2:54:46
  That is a I don't know what is it as far as general and stuff.
• 2:54:53
  Out, you know, like, I always tell everyone, I meet we live
• 2:54:59
  our lives based on what we believe like, of course, if
• 2:55:02
  you're Muslim, even to live Muslim Life Christian, Christian
• 2:55:06
  life. So me being coming from a
• 2:55:10
  Christian background. I really take my face,
• 2:55:16
  seriously, and I try to cling to the Bible is, I like, I don't
• 2:55:21
  know. It doesn't matter what I say, I
• 2:55:23
  I don't know. What does the word say my
• 2:55:26
  opinion means it will he tell you to hold a I'm sorry do you
• 2:55:30
  hold a controversial you know opinion on this matter or what I
• 2:55:37
  mean I don't know why it, why I would like I'm I just feel
• 2:55:41
  myself, I think the whole sexuality thing, especially the
• 2:55:45
  gender stuff and, you know, trans and stuff myself, I feel
• 2:55:49
  it's You know, a lot of it is, is, I mean, I have a Christian
• 2:55:55
  worldview, right? So I believe behind it all, is,
• 2:55:59
  is kind of an attack on the family.
• 2:56:03
  Yeah, I agree underneath it. You know, for whatever various
• 2:56:08
  reasons, you know different. Yeah.
• 2:56:11
  People are inspired to do that. Yeah.
• 2:56:15
  Again, it comes back to individuality like there's a lot
• 2:56:19
  of like, okay, I know this from a from a conservative Viewpoint
• 2:56:26
  when they're looking at this whole trans thing, they're being
• 2:56:29
  bombarded on Facebook and social media with images that from
• 2:56:33
  basically liberal transgenders liberal.
• 2:56:37
  People like this people, that is against God or, you know,
• 2:56:41
  they're, they're not seeing those transgenders which are few
• 2:56:45
  that happened to be conservative and Tony.
• 2:56:48
  I've seen plenty of transgender He's as well as homosexuals who
• 2:56:53
  are conservatives, they voted Trump all that.
• 2:56:55
  That's not the issue to give a real cut down dry where I'm
• 2:56:59
  coming from, and now, no offense, folks.
• 2:57:01
  But I see transgenderism is a form of mental illness, a
• 2:57:05
  chemical imbalance, and I think it may exist.
• 2:57:09
  So, prevalent today, due to the fact that adults did much
• 2:57:13
  mushrooms and drugs back in the past, and then altered them
• 2:57:17
  later on, that's where I'm coming from, but I still think
• 2:57:20
  we should. So, Estimate in love, but I'm
• 2:57:22
  not going to do the pronoun bullshit.
• 2:57:24
  I refuse to do these commands, go ahead.
• 2:57:27
  I have a, I have a different reason why I think the problem
• 2:57:31
  or what speaks to the province's.
• 2:57:33
  It's just to me, it's freakin obvious that they've been
• 2:57:36
  grooming the society since the 70s at least, you know, just
• 2:57:43
  breaking down the, you know, typical moral barriers that
• 2:57:49
  we're pretty much in place from the Founding of our nation as a
• 2:57:52
  as people that how to Christian morals specifically you know
• 2:57:57
  which meant you know certain attitudes towards sex that you
• 2:58:01
  didn't accept and and part of you know a society that was not
• 2:58:08
  a religious Society. But based in Freedom you know
• 2:58:13
  you understood that you know there's you know if you have a
• 2:58:17
  problem if there's issues or whatever you deal with them,
• 2:58:20
  From you know, a basically Christian Stan.
• 2:58:24
  You know, point of view as far as how you deal with even
• 2:58:27
  issues, you know that that might come up.
• 2:58:29
  I mean and obviously there's not a Christian standard really but
• 2:58:35
  any I hope I'm trying to communicate an idea there.
• 2:58:39
  You feel like it's their family basically.
• 2:58:42
  That's the seems to be a big thing.
• 2:58:44
  Well I just think Society like beginning in the 70s again and
• 2:58:48
  then just have I mean boom boom. Boom.
• 2:58:50
  Umm, increased me time talking about media and all the points
• 2:58:55
  of Education where that's the younger generation has been
• 2:58:58
  groomed. Basically, that's a great word,
• 2:59:02
  you know, to and and so why is it all accepted?
• 2:59:08
  You know, so-and-so up because it's promoted constantly 24/7.
• 2:59:13
  Yeah, that's what I'm yeah. So sorry is being bombarded with
• 2:59:17
  these images. That I see it as an attack on
• 2:59:22
  the fundamental, you know, values of America and because of
• 2:59:28
  its Christian Heritage. Yeah, the importance of the
• 2:59:31
  family for the whole structure of society.
• 2:59:35
  Yeah, I agree, like my whole thing, the way I look at this is
• 2:59:40
  a first and foremost, I'm like what breast said?
• 2:59:44
  I'm not good. It's not my place to condemn
• 2:59:46
  anyone, that's God's Department, that's between that person and
• 2:59:50
  God. You know, the ultimate in, we
• 2:59:54
  can't put anyone in heaven or hell.
• 2:59:58
  We can do is pray for people. I mean, I'm often accused of
• 3:00:02
  being transphobic or whatever because I'm against trans gender
• 3:00:07
  ISM and stuff. But as a Christian and I mean,
• 3:00:11
  my particular slant on it is I really want the best for our.
• 3:00:16
  I love all people. I love all transgender people
• 3:00:19
  homosexual. Anyone I don't love people based
• 3:00:22
  on if they're a sinner or not, I assume they are Center and but
• 3:00:26
  it's just like, I am, you know, so the Christian call is to love
• 3:00:31
  people but, you know, loving people to me involves telling
• 3:00:35
  the truth, you know, so that's that you can't separate it.
• 3:00:39
  And so, yeah, I hear you. The thing that you brought up
• 3:00:45
  though, Tony that fascinated me I've heard a couple different
• 3:00:49
  people in my room. As you know I've had a lot of
• 3:00:51
  transgenders coming to my room and they keep telling me well
• 3:00:54
  science says, and science says, I'm like all right.
• 3:00:57
  What science? And the only thing they give me
• 3:01:00
  is well, transgenders have different things going on our
• 3:01:03
  brain. Well guess what?
• 3:01:04
  I got different shit going on my brain to.
• 3:01:07
  I felt like you're smoking a fucking Popeye pipe.
• 3:01:10
  He's got shit going through his head.
• 3:01:12
  What's so different? That I All of a sudden got to
• 3:01:14
  think this is Magic juice or something that's grasping at
• 3:01:17
  straws obviously because there's some kind of measurable
• 3:01:22
  difference in, that's even questionable but let's Grant it.
• 3:01:27
  That doesn't mean that is there's no tie between that and
• 3:01:31
  this you know I mean that they can point to it's strictly a
• 3:01:35
  correlation know the best, you know.
• 3:01:39
  Yeah, regardless of the size and The shape of one's brain,
• 3:01:45
  whether it looks more feminine or masculine, it doesn't change
• 3:01:50
  the genes. You know?
• 3:01:51
  If your if your ex why you're a man, if your ex ex your woman, I
• 3:01:57
  mean these people have these people have a real problem.
• 3:02:00
  I mean look for centuries, right?
• 3:02:03
  You'd hear like, you know, you'd hear, okay?
• 3:02:07
  Here's what you'd hear. It's a boy, it's a boy.
• 3:02:13
  But how do they know that? How do they know all of a
• 3:02:17
  sudden? That's a boy.
• 3:02:18
  I just wonder if it's pretty good.
• 3:02:21
  I need to use it as a sound bite.
• 3:02:27
  So what are you? What are you got?
• 3:02:28
  Tony and like I said the even if someone is absolutely convinced
• 3:02:32
  of this I'm going to show them love and compassion at the end
• 3:02:35
  of the day no matter what providing they're not hurting
• 3:02:38
  people. But what do you what do you
• 3:02:40
  think there is? What kind of science magical
• 3:02:43
  thing in the brain that we ought to just go.
• 3:02:46
  Oh well for now arm. Let's do pronouns.
• 3:02:50
  Yeah, there was a study that was done years ago on.
• 3:02:55
  I can't remember the year it was.
• 3:02:57
  But when this whole thing came out with Bruce changing to
• 3:03:01
  Jenner, I was like I said, in the last show, I was on, I was
• 3:03:07
  doing a lot of research on Because it cuz I was like the
• 3:03:10
  mindset I was in instead of condemning these people.
• 3:03:14
  I wanted to know what what is really behind this is it
• 3:03:19
  hormonal is a genetics, is it? You know?
• 3:03:22
  What is so I when I was doing this research one of the things
• 3:03:26
  I came across was they did a study with hormone replacement
• 3:03:31
  therapy and how it changes the brain and interesting, the
• 3:03:36
  actually saw physical changes on our Right.
• 3:03:40
  But men would have, you know, the size of the normal size
• 3:03:43
  brain and he would actually shrink after going through the
• 3:03:48
  HRT and vice a versa women was the opposite.
• 3:03:52
  There are there parts of their brain.
• 3:03:54
  Look more masculine all because of this hormone is amazing or
• 3:03:58
  hormones can do, but that doesn't make you.
• 3:04:02
  It doesn't necessarily change you from XX or XY.
• 3:04:06
  They can't change your jeans. It just change the shape of your
• 3:04:09
  birth. That's all, this is me.
• 3:04:10
  You're a man or woman. Oh, Tony, what do you think
• 3:04:13
  about this? If adults I've come to the point
• 3:04:17
  where there is a line drawn in the sand, if adults later on in
• 3:04:21
  their life, they think there's enough weird stuff going on in
• 3:04:24
  their brain. They want to do things to
• 3:04:26
  themselves, or get a doctor, to do some chopping fine.
• 3:04:30
  But now they're talking about going after children while
• 3:04:34
  children are still in a phase of trying to synchronize their own.
• 3:04:39
  Consciousness and sentience and how they identify themselves,
• 3:04:42
  how they view themselves sexually and all this.
• 3:04:45
  They're wanting to incorporate this shit.
• 3:04:47
  This propaganda aren't children, and I think that's going too
• 3:04:51
  far. That's where I draw the line.
• 3:04:53
  I agree. Yeah, that is wrong.
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  I mean, if adults have issues is that there's a lot of, there's a
• 3:05:00
  lot of adults that they'll make the transition and then maybe
• 3:05:03
  someday down the road, they'll say, what did I do?
• 3:05:06
  You know, I can't believe it. Now, there's no point.
• 3:05:10
  If I don't have a problem with this, how do we expect children
• 3:05:13
  to make the right choice? It's not possible.
• 3:05:18
  Well, I agree with you there time.
• 3:05:20
  I don't think we really know what's going on with the puberty
• 3:05:24
  Brock, the puberty blockers and stuff.
• 3:05:26
  And you know what? That might do during a child's
• 3:05:30
  development to, you know, be have that administered.
• 3:05:35
  Yeah. Oh, I don't think it's good.
• 3:05:39
  I agree. And with that being said, uh,
• 3:05:41
  may I have a cigarette you to awesome gentleman.
• 3:05:44
  Talked about it. Oh, I'm leaving you with pizza
• 3:05:46
  in your mouth. It's gonna be hard to have a
• 3:05:47
  good shot them, but I'm glad you both came in.
• 3:05:50
  I'll be right back. You guys can be able to handle
• 3:05:52
  the zoo while I'm away. Yeah, sure.
• 3:05:56
  Brett is a category for the evening or is.
• 3:06:01
  Well, he stayed for like almost an hour and a half.
• 3:06:04
  He put, He put it in there. He is going to be doing another
• 3:06:08
  open discussion. I believe you are in the 12th.
• 3:06:12
  It's going to start out the segment's going to start with
• 3:06:14
  him and Amy Newman. And then I'll start letting
• 3:06:16
  people in, but I got to start getting more nastier on the
• 3:06:20
  moderation down. He's really good at that.
• 3:06:23
  I let a guy. Guy come in here.
• 3:06:25
  I thought that the guy was going to be cool twice.
• 3:06:28
  Now, I've had to atheist who kept cutting Kent off, and I had
• 3:06:32
  to tell make enough, but I can't do this.
• 3:06:35
  This is what I usually do when people are interrupting, but I
• 3:06:38
  can't do it with can't because you don't like cuss words I like
• 3:06:41
  doing this. Shut the fuck up, you cunt.
• 3:06:49
  Beautiful. And then also, if you get
• 3:06:50
  somebody asking ignorant questions like the guy did
• 3:06:53
  earlier, I can do this. Oh retard alert.
• 3:06:57
  Retard alert class here. We're so.
• 3:07:07
  Where are you? Where are you from?
• 3:07:12
  I can't hear you, you're Mike. I think I'm sorry, I was
• 3:07:16
  meeting. Yeah, I live around Detroit just
• 3:07:19
  north of you. Even more like a city or country
• 3:07:26
  or its City. It's just Detroit continued
• 3:07:29
  going north. It's like where do you live?
• 3:07:34
  well, I'm currently in Kentucky, okay, not too familiar with that
• 3:07:39
  area but I mean, it's a metropolis.
• 3:07:44
  You know, it's all concrete. I hope for Miles through several
• 3:07:49
  counties. You know, Wayne County's.
• 3:07:51
  Where Detroit is Oakland County. Yeah.
• 3:07:54
  I live. But, you know, all the highways
• 3:07:58
  and all the roads run through it all about.
• 3:08:03
  You kind of know you're not in Detroit when it's stops looking
• 3:08:06
  like a bombed-out area. Yeah, yeah, Kentucky is nice.
• 3:08:14
  I've been here for about three years from where well, I'm
• 3:08:21
  originally After a certain time, I was living with my mom and she
• 3:08:35
  moved away. She bought a house in Oregon and
• 3:08:37
  I had no family. Really that I can do with in
• 3:08:40
  Hawaii. I Know Places based on my way
• 3:08:42
  with her and then organize. Yeah.
• 3:08:48
  So I grew up until she passed away.
• 3:08:53
  Were you near Portland OR I was in.
• 3:08:57
  Are you familiar with wet Redmond?
• 3:08:59
  Oregon? Not really, but I was going back
• 3:09:03
  to my point. Do you been to Portland, right?
• 3:09:06
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, twice. Okay, so, I mean, you know, it's
• 3:09:09
  like any other. It's like, you know, you have
• 3:09:12
  Portland, then you have the adjoining suburbs, you know,
• 3:09:15
  it's all you couldn't tell the difference, you know, if you
• 3:09:17
  were watching generally, usually, what I mean, so, I'm
• 3:09:21
  saying, is, that's where I live in, like, a big city, like
• 3:09:23
  Portland. It's huh.
• 3:09:28
  Yeah, we don't have the forget, the name of the transit system.
• 3:09:34
  They used the Mac or the Mark or something.
• 3:09:39
  All right. What's that?
• 3:09:40
  You know, that that public transport, that train thing that
• 3:09:43
  you can get on important example around?
• 3:09:47
  Okay, yeah. Stop next.
• 3:10:00
  Stop Kentucky. No, actually, the after my mom
• 3:10:05
  passed away, I decided to move. Sorry about that.
• 3:10:10
  Yeah, okay, on cancer. Yeah, I decided to go to Las
• 3:10:16
  Vegas, June of 2013 there for five years.
• 3:10:24
  And then after that, last spend a lot of time in Hawaii and a
• 3:10:29
  lot of time in Vegas. Well what part of Well, all over
• 3:10:37
  Hawaii but it was only like 36 hours at a time because I was
• 3:10:42
  married to a flight attendant and she had seniority and stuff.
• 3:10:46
  So she do these Hawaii trips, you know occasion.
• 3:10:50
  But we're not while I was married.
• 3:10:53
  We yeah. I look kind of lived over in
• 3:10:55
  Hawaii almost Yeah it's a it's a nice place I miss it.
• 3:11:01
  Sometimes people say so your Hawaiian and is it know I was
• 3:11:06
  born and raised here but I'm not I'm not Hawaiian my blood I was
• 3:11:10
  just born and raised yeah it's not like you're from another
• 3:11:14
  Nation sort of if you're you know from Hawaii.
• 3:11:16
  Right? Yeah.
• 3:11:17
  It's like if you put this it's like if you were in Texas and
• 3:11:24
  you moved to Oregon for example, People will call you all your
• 3:11:29
  Oregonian now live there. Yeah, so you know people call me
• 3:11:35
  Hawaiian but I'm not Hawaiian but what I'm just and but even
• 3:11:40
  at even if they knew you're from Texas I mean they sort of
• 3:11:45
  wouldn't say oh you're texting then after you've moved you.
• 3:11:52
  So yeah I mean there's something about being Hawaiian means Does
• 3:11:59
  refer to the race, you know, the Hawaiian the Aboriginal you know
• 3:12:05
  the however you want to say at the natives.
• 3:12:12
  Yeah, that's one thing I was lucky.
• 3:12:14
  I got to grow up with all kinds of.
• 3:12:19
  You know, it's funny because they say the United States
• 3:12:23
  especially in New York is The Melting Pot, but I beg to differ
• 3:12:26
  and the reason why I feel like Rahul is really the most
• 3:12:31
  important because it really is a mountain politan.
• 3:12:33
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:12:34
  Have you been like, sorry. Did you ever go to San
• 3:12:39
  Francisco? No, no, no.
• 3:12:43
  I see I see. San Francisco is is a, you're
• 3:12:47
  talking about only a much larger scale just because Oahu, you
• 3:12:52
  know, it's a one Island and that not too many people get to have
• 3:12:55
  access to it, you know. Oh, I got one more question,
• 3:13:01
  Tony for you. Before we wrap things up.
• 3:13:03
  Another topic is apparently you don't know if you're going to
• 3:13:07
  ever get me that science stuff. You were talking about the
• 3:13:10
  theory is one of the thing. I was wanting to ask you about.
• 3:13:14
  Do you feel as though there are posers in the transgender
• 3:13:17
  movement, of course, The reason for anybody out there that
• 3:13:23
  doesn't know what I mean. I believe that there's a lot of
• 3:13:26
  people in social media that deliberately dress up like
• 3:13:29
  females and try to cutesy themselves up and do all this
• 3:13:32
  extraordinary crazed to their hair.
• 3:13:35
  You know, like the pink hair on one side and black on the other
• 3:13:38
  and do all this because they're trying to present some kind of
• 3:13:41
  entertainment and just get attention, it's not in there.
• 3:13:47
  So for some reason, I think some people think that jumping on the
• 3:13:50
  trans, gender train is going to get them more views or
• 3:13:54
  excitement, or people listening to them when they weren't
• 3:13:57
  listening to before. But your thoughts guys.
• 3:14:00
  Yeah, it was like me, like, when I was posting those pictures of
• 3:14:03
  me, you know what? My friends first.
• 3:14:17
  Say things that make you think that all you sound like you're
• 3:14:20
  jealous, you know. It's like, then they say, oh, I
• 3:14:23
  hope you're not doing this just to go to Hollywood and start, of
• 3:14:26
  course not. It's like first of all, I
• 3:14:29
  haven't even started. I haven't even started.
• 3:14:32
  And second, I'm for me, it's it's, it has to do with, you
• 3:14:36
  know, whatever. My blood test comes out.
• 3:14:38
  I'm determining everything on that.
• 3:14:41
  But yeah, I mean some a lot of people do it for the wrong
• 3:14:45
  reasons, you know. See Tony, one of the other
• 3:14:49
  things to why I get to the idea that it's a chemical imbalances.
• 3:14:54
  As you know, a few years back. I used to hang out in a room
• 3:14:57
  that had a lot of transgenders in it, and many of them were
• 3:15:00
  admitted Cutters. I don't know if you guys know
• 3:15:02
  what that is and one of them wanted to change their gender so
• 3:15:07
  badly, but they claimed, they didn't have the money to go, get
• 3:15:10
  the change that they took a knife to themself and put
• 3:15:14
  themselves in the hospital over it.
• 3:15:16
  So to me, I couldn't even imagine taking a nice to Big Tom
• 3:15:21
  at all. There's just no way that's going
• 3:15:23
  to happen you know but I've been doing that there's got to be
• 3:15:27
  something wrong. Yeah, that's that's when they
• 3:15:32
  need to seek out some kind of professional help because that's
• 3:15:36
  that's, I hate to say it, but that's really soon.
• 3:15:39
  You know, you can cut yourself just because you don't have the
• 3:15:42
  financial means at the moment. Well, is that for the rest of
• 3:15:45
  your life? I mean, you know, it's not like
• 3:15:47
  forever. I mean, someday you'll make the
• 3:15:50
  money think of something, you know, come up with something, I
• 3:15:54
  don't know, but it's not reason to cut.
• 3:15:59
  So I was going to head an idea about this.
• 3:16:02
  I wonder, I'll just run it out there.
• 3:16:04
  I don't know if it's true or anything, but I just had this
• 3:16:09
  thought about. Okay.
• 3:16:11
  Imagine if you're a man and you are a Is sort of, you know,
• 3:16:18
  oddly enough you find yourself attracted to other men like you
• 3:16:22
  think, you know, as opposed to women.
• 3:16:25
  So you sort of associate yourself feeling like this.
• 3:16:30
  Must be what a woman feels like. Okay.
• 3:16:33
  And now but in your mind like the idea of getting it on with a
• 3:16:39
  man is disgusting to even you yourself because I have that,
• 3:16:46
  you know, you have this penis and you know I mean and so it
• 3:16:52
  seems like well maybe it'd be better if I if I take on the
• 3:16:58
  role of a woman at least by all appearances.
• 3:17:03
  And you know, I'll make myself feel better even in the, you
• 3:17:08
  know, because I'll be sort of, you know, to everyone out look
• 3:17:12
  like what I'm Desiring or what I feel like or I mean, does that
• 3:17:16
  make sense? I mean, is that a possible
• 3:17:19
  reason somebody would go to maybe transgender instead of
• 3:17:25
  just straight gay people. Yeah.
• 3:17:29
  Presentation or something, right?
• 3:17:31
  Some people do. I myself.
• 3:17:34
  I cannot relate to that because I'm not gay for me.
• 3:17:40
  It's different. Like I talked about on breast
• 3:17:43
  last show. I suspect I might have something
• 3:17:51
  referred to as Klinefelter syndrome.
• 3:17:54
  And that would basically mean my jeans would be more female as
• 3:18:00
  opposed to male meaning that I have more excess added to my
• 3:18:04
  wife Jean. So that's one of the reasons
• 3:18:10
  that I would even contemplate. The thought of transitioning I
• 3:18:15
  haven't had my test yet, but I suspect based on a lot of things
• 3:18:19
  I grew up symptoms that I've had all my life, nobody knows about
• 3:18:23
  it. Me, well, it seems like the
• 3:18:27
  obvious that, you know, that can cut that comes up in her case of
• 3:18:30
  a hermaphrodite or whatever. And, you know, it's like to me,
• 3:18:36
  it's at least it's, it's probably, I would think it's a
• 3:18:41
  lot different these days, maybe they would think before they
• 3:18:44
  make a decision, maybe they do some genetic testing or some to
• 3:18:49
  see ya, which would like, which side of the line is this.
• 3:18:54
  This baby favoring. Maybe.
• 3:18:55
  So the say, do you know what I mean?
• 3:18:58
  We ought to be obvious is some time before we cut off one or
• 3:19:02
  the other, you know, or you know what I mean before we make that
• 3:19:04
  choice. Here's the problem though.
• 3:19:09
  The obvious doctor will look and say, oh, this person has this
• 3:19:13
  like that. So, we'll just decide, you know,
• 3:19:16
  keep this won't take off that. Well, that's the obvious, this
• 3:19:20
  the hour and was sometimes there can be Genetic abnormalities
• 3:19:26
  like for example klinefelter's that people don't find out until
• 3:19:29
  their late until the early ages, you know, when people do the
• 3:19:34
  research. Yeah.
• 3:19:35
  Chill. These other these other
• 3:19:38
  identifiers kind of pasta. Excuse me.
• 3:19:40
  I got a refill. My drink.
• 3:19:42
  Yeah symptoms and you know, But yeah, so not everybody will
• 3:19:52
  obviously show and birth, you know, for the doctors to make
• 3:19:55
  that decision, sometimes again, it's the jeans and they don't
• 3:19:58
  find out that until years later. But Tony, you, you haven't went
• 3:20:07
  and got looked at have, you know?
• 3:20:10
  But based on all of us, the research I've done.
• 3:20:14
  I would say I'm about maybe I have 75% of all the symptoms.
• 3:20:20
  But again, we don't fear your self diagnose and yourself in an
• 3:20:24
  age where there's just an overabundance of misinformation
• 3:20:28
  all over than that, you know, that all through Biden in this
• 3:20:32
  Trump shit. There's just been garbage after
• 3:20:34
  garbage because it awoke movement and all these other
• 3:20:37
  groups. Unless you go to a professional,
• 3:20:40
  you're never really going to know.
• 3:20:41
  You can't base it on what you looked at on the fucking
• 3:20:44
  internet. If we looked on the internet for
• 3:20:46
  me, everybody think I was an aquatic creature.
• 3:20:50
  Yeah, no, I'm yeah, I understand that it's common sense but
• 3:20:57
  they're, you know, it doesn't rule out the symptoms of bread.
• 3:21:01
  Some people can have a lot of the symptoms in my habit.
• 3:21:05
  I might not have it, who knows? I might go and get the test.
• 3:21:08
  It turns out I'm - you know, if that's the case we'll also be.
• 3:21:12
  I'm okay, we drive a, so, whatever happens, you know, I
• 3:21:17
  just want to do the right thing in God's eyes.
• 3:21:20
  If it did, if I was positive, I would have to really think about
• 3:21:26
  it. You know, because besides being
• 3:21:29
  positive, there's other parts that would lead me down that
• 3:21:34
  direction only because when I was younger, I can relate.
• 3:21:38
  I always felt something, was off as far as the way I felt.
• 3:21:43
  So you don't mind me asking them, not trying to put you in
• 3:21:47
  the hot seat. Dear Tony.
• 3:21:48
  But you said that you want to do, what is right in the eyes of
• 3:21:52
  God. But didn't you have an
• 3:21:54
  appointment to go? Get the truth.
• 3:21:58
  Yeah, and I kind of like, well, for me, it last-minute stuff, I
• 3:22:08
  kind of chickened out because How do I put this?
• 3:22:15
  I was thinking to myself. Okay, let's say I go get the
• 3:22:18
  test and let's say comes back positive.
• 3:22:21
  What do I do then? I don't currently have the
• 3:22:24
  financial means to make any changes.
• 3:22:27
  So like do you think that you would need to make?
• 3:22:31
  If it turned out, it said positive, let's say it was
• 3:22:35
  positive. Okay decision.
• 3:22:41
  And if I go down that road, the first thing for me, regardless
• 3:22:45
  of where they transition or not, there was I wanted to have a
• 3:22:50
  minor rhinoplasty for my nose because I had an accident where
• 3:22:55
  I guess not proportionate, but the other thing would be.
• 3:23:01
  Again, if I was to go down that road, we're talking the surgery
• 3:23:05
  were talking about voice changing to change and change my
• 3:23:09
  voice to be more feminine. Obviously my voice, some don't
• 3:23:13
  sound bad. Why though?
• 3:23:15
  Mean you've already pointed out that even if this is the case?
• 3:23:19
  You're not interested in men. So why would you want to make
• 3:23:24
  yourself look like a woman? Because at that point there's
• 3:23:27
  going to be a lot of women who may not be interested in you
• 3:23:30
  anymore. You're basically breaking your
• 3:23:32
  ability to be with women by making yourself look female.
• 3:23:36
  And you already said that you're not gay in the first place.
• 3:23:39
  So I don't Why would I do it for well let me explain it like
• 3:23:46
  this. Okay, for me how this started
• 3:23:52
  was when I was younger like anywhere from my parents would
• 3:23:59
  go out and leaving home and I would be watching, you know, you
• 3:24:05
  know that Daddy has a CRT TVs So anyway, long story short like
• 3:24:14
  most is, I'll be watching my step.
• 3:24:18
  I think I've answered this new watching Playboy.
• 3:24:22
  All right. Yeah, okay.
• 3:24:24
  Well I couldn't wash so I could watch it.
• 3:24:40
  Any way that you can fix that because I feel like I'm talking
• 3:24:43
  to a fucking record. It's like pizza pepper.
• 3:24:46
  Is there any way to put hats? Really Poppy?
• 3:24:51
  Oh, try reloading a little bit Tony.
• 3:24:54
  It sounds like a hamster grip and shut its rough.
• 3:25:01
  I don't know, try to fix it or change mics or something Tony.
• 3:25:05
  Because I really want to hear what I want to hear what you
• 3:25:09
  have to say, but it's just cause and I feel like I'm having Rice
• 3:25:13
  Krispies crackling in my brain and shit.
• 3:25:15
  Please, I I hear you Tony but you got to fix it, man.
• 3:25:23
  All right. So how's your day been sir?
• 3:25:27
  Me, you've been hating. I'm people lately.
• 3:25:32
  I've been accused of it, but yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 3:25:38
  The older, you know, I don't know.
• 3:25:40
  You seem to be in my age bracket.
• 3:25:42
  I'm 62, but I'm 45, but I'll tell you what, because my health
• 3:25:47
  issues. I definitely look older than
• 3:25:49
  Kent Joven at this point. Well, it's going back to gray
• 3:25:52
  hair and yeah, yeah, people call me Moses after a beating, here
• 3:25:57
  you go. But anyways, I said, well, yeah,
• 3:26:01
  no insult intended. I was just saying, maybe,
• 3:26:05
  imagine yourself in 20 years, being able to reflect on just,
• 3:26:09
  you know, things or whatever. It's just a lot more under your
• 3:26:12
  belt of whether, you know, maybe a lot of seems like, I don't
• 3:26:19
  know from at least in my life. You know, there's it's like, The
• 3:26:25
  first third of your life you don't know what's going on.
• 3:26:28
  You're just trying to hang on. Yeah.
• 3:26:31
  The second third is like yeah, you you got an idea what's going
• 3:26:37
  on, you know, if you know and then like the last third is like
• 3:26:43
  figuring out if, if you are right or something, and it feels
• 3:26:49
  like in the later days, like when you think you got shit
• 3:26:53
  figured out. So my comes along with The rug
• 3:26:55
  from under you. Well, that's what I mean.
• 3:26:57
  It's like that s. That s third is like, you think
• 3:27:00
  you got things figured out, you know, like life.
• 3:27:03
  Like, you know, and all my work and everything but it's like f,
• 3:27:09
  it's like, then you reach a certain age where or maybe a
• 3:27:12
  certain moment where you realize like you really don't know shit
• 3:27:19
  you know you have beliefs and then you then you know and then
• 3:27:23
  you should realize we Well, we have beliefs for reasons, you
• 3:27:27
  know, and then well why do I have these beliefs?
• 3:27:31
  You know? Like I just think you need to be
• 3:27:33
  on like it sickens me to see Christians, you know, people
• 3:27:38
  doing whatever on the are representing as a Christian and
• 3:27:43
  they can't handle the base. Like they teach maybe they just
• 3:27:47
  can't be honest, you know? But they come up with, you know,
• 3:27:51
  bullshit answers or or wacky answers.
• 3:27:54
  That make them look foolish or something.
• 3:27:58
  I don't know. I'm kind of I do.
• 3:28:01
  I do specific, I do notice the Christians back in the day,
• 3:28:05
  especially my grandmother and my mother before she got sick.
• 3:28:09
  If you came up at her and asked one of the kind of questions
• 3:28:12
  that you hear out here, it'd be like are you fucking kidding me?
• 3:28:16
  You know, and they'd get it straight.
• 3:28:17
  There wouldn't be no beating around the bush.
• 3:28:19
  It does seem like there's a lot of I hate to say it.
• 3:28:23
  No offense, folks, but it It seemed like some Christians have
• 3:28:26
  become kind of spongy when it comes to some topics.
• 3:28:29
  They don't just say it and say this is wrong and this is right.
• 3:28:34
  This is what God's cool with this is, what he's not.
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  It is odd. It's uncomfortable.
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  Well, I think one of the big problems is nobody's for.
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  Some reason can say, I don't know.
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  Oh yeah, intellectual honesty. That always is nice.
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  It's always refreshing to hear. It usually is better if that's
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  the case, if you're arguing something and what else what I
• 3:29:02
  mean if you're not going to say, I don't know what it what are
• 3:29:05
  you going to replace that with if you don't know?
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  I mean I don't know if I'll have to look into it or research of
• 3:29:13
  course I mean I'm just saying you could qualify you know?
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  Well okay I Honestly I don't know, maybe I can Hazard a guess
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  and you know that would be one way to, you know, whatever.
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  I mean I'm just saying the admission that the important
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  admission is I don't know exactly.
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  Yeah everybody wants to sound like a damn genius on the
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  internet. Think it's because the internet
• 3:29:39
  social media, cause this hierarchy thing, where people
• 3:29:42
  have these egos, they feel like, oh, I'm being watched, I got to
• 3:29:45
  say something clever, it's got to sound like it comes.
• 3:29:48
  From a fucking book when they really don't know where you're
• 3:29:51
  going with it. Well it helps to be clever and
• 3:29:54
  you know funny and stuff. Yeah, honestly I think we do
• 3:29:58
  pretty good at that, we do well. But no, I mean you have to
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  realize. I mean, there's certain things
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  that we have that we were born with and we can't take any
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  credit for it. You know.
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  That'd be ridiculous. I think.
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  Yeah. But does it again, there are
• 3:30:22
  look, I'm 62. I, I know they're like, I can
• 3:30:27
  recognize the smart people among me.
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  And those that aren't that bright, you know what I mean?
• 3:30:32
  The, the certain levels. And now, and I can also
• 3:30:35
  recognize that I'm not in the level of some other guys, like I
• 3:30:39
  can tell when I'm not in that that's up.
• 3:30:42
  Those guys. Are you man?
• 3:30:45
  You're a yeah. Can you not?
• 3:30:48
  Can you? Break that down for me and
• 3:30:50
  little pieces, you know, or whatever.
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  I'm just saying that's a part of life.
• 3:30:53
  I mean, you're somewhere in life, you know.
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  So you would do you wealth of try to figure out where you're
• 3:31:00
  at among your peers? Maybe it might be helpful.
• 3:31:04
  Not to say, there's anything quote-unquote batter about
• 3:31:09
  having, you know, but obviously, you know, intelligence is a, you
• 3:31:16
  know, a helpful survival tool. And in lieu of certain, you
• 3:31:23
  know, things you might face. It was here basically you're
• 3:31:28
  seeking out humility and Humanity.
• 3:31:31
  I like you, I try to be humble. I mean I'm a humble person.
• 3:31:35
  I'm just like I think we're all equals, you know?
• 3:31:38
  I mean that's what I just approach.
• 3:31:40
  Everyone has an equal. And you know I don't pretend to
• 3:31:43
  know here's the thing. I make believe claims I'm really
• 3:31:47
  adamant about not making knowledge claims especially like
• 3:31:51
  there's very few I believe there are very few knowledge claims
• 3:31:54
  that I could even say that I Something that I do know, like,
• 3:31:59
  I'm pretty sure I know that I exist, you know, I can't see
• 3:32:04
  how, you know, the fact that I'm thinking and you know, and
• 3:32:09
  that's a, that's an easy one though.
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  But like Beyond you know, what do you know, you know, no, no,
• 3:32:17
  you know, that isn't based on a lot of presuppositions.
• 3:32:23
  Well, these people arguing nowadays that we might be in a
• 3:32:26
  simulation and we're just reacting to script responses.
• 3:32:30
  So you've been the whole. Oh I know I exist part.
• 3:32:33
  Hell that's being questioned now.
• 3:32:35
  Yeah, I just throw those at mean to me.
• 3:32:37
  Yeah. That might be a valid
• 3:32:40
  philosophical query or something but that's not real life to me
• 3:32:44
  to me. It's like hey if it's a lop if
• 3:32:48
  some form of Salah fascism or whatever.
• 3:32:51
  If right, if Just a brain-in-a-vat.
• 3:32:55
  Well, all bets are off then. To me, like to me, you know what
• 3:33:01
  I mean? If you did realize that it would
• 3:33:04
  be like, well, all bets are off as far as who cares.
• 3:33:08
  What's going on in a mind? If it's, if it's, you know, like
• 3:33:13
  it's like a dream then write what I mean, I don't know,
• 3:33:17
  dreams aren't I love to have a nice dream but they're not that
• 3:33:21
  significant if that was the reality.
• 3:33:23
  Bur, if that's your reality, is you're really just some fig now.
• 3:33:27
  Yeah, some figment of somebody's imagination.
• 3:33:31
  Yeah, or Amplified figment of your own imagination.
• 3:33:37
  That the true you is sleeping. I know.
• 3:33:39
  I've listened to a lot of these philosophers and they got my
• 3:33:42
  brain turned into fucking oatmeal.
• 3:33:45
  Yeah, well, there's a few questions and that's one of them
• 3:33:48
  where I just say, you know, if you're gonna like, I don't
• 3:33:54
  consider that even a worthy thing to consider, you know our
• 3:34:00
  am I how do you know you're not a brain-in-a-vat?
• 3:34:05
  I don't know, and that's why I'm not, you know, it's one of those
• 3:34:09
  things unless I unless we as you know, unless I assume I'm not
• 3:34:15
  You know, life is going to be, you know, pretty pointless.
• 3:34:18
  That's why maybe there's so much conspiracies.
• 3:34:24
  Like I heard one, not too long ago by the way, my company.
• 3:34:29
  No. Again, you crackling when you
• 3:34:33
  come my sucks. Anyway, yeah, it's still there,
• 3:34:40
  not, maybe not as bad as it was. But yeah, some people think that
• 3:34:48
  there's a dome over the Earth that prevents our souls from
• 3:34:52
  reaching Heaven. You know, there's also that
• 3:34:54
  conspiracy I don't know, it's hard.
• 3:34:58
  I got a, I got a guy that comes in here.
• 3:35:00
  Once my believes we live in a snow globe and that the Earth is
• 3:35:03
  flat. We let him hang out as he comes
• 3:35:06
  up with neat stuff from time to time.
• 3:35:08
  Keeps it interesting. I thought nothing of them was a
• 3:35:10
  flat earther, I don't know. We got a guy called Bond who
• 3:35:15
  believes he has Sorcerer of powers and abilities.
• 3:35:18
  He promised me that he was going to create a barrier to keep out
• 3:35:22
  immigrants, but he obviously didn't come to you on that.
• 3:35:27
  I was when I first came in thing it cuz I was kind of was
• 3:35:32
  listening. I wasn't able to come in but I
• 3:35:34
  was listening when backhoe and praise and stand for truth was
• 3:35:39
  in there and but somebody and maybe you know, but they
• 3:35:45
  mentioned some dude who is really good at arguing for the
• 3:35:50
  Trinity and I was going to I wanted to press those guys a
• 3:35:56
  little bit. On there that the issue of the
• 3:35:58
  Trinity or but I did want to find out who this guy was
• 3:36:02
  because if he's as good as you know, I want to hear the best
• 3:36:05
  arguments or see what he's saying.
• 3:36:07
  Because what fear not that, I'm not, not that I'm not a
• 3:36:10
  trinitarian but I definitely don't.
• 3:36:13
  I don't sign on to nicaea or all that baloney.
• 3:36:19
  I struggled for a long time with the Trinity concept.
• 3:36:23
  There was a quite a few years there where I was questioning.
• 3:36:26
  Another question though saying, okay, how is this a appeared to
• 3:36:30
  be two, separate entities, the whole Jesus praying.
• 3:36:33
  What he said on the cross, there was a couple different things,
• 3:36:36
  but some Christians pointed out some passages to me and talk me
• 3:36:40
  through it and I'm more and more.
• 3:36:42
  I'm pretty much, I'd say, 98% condensed on it now.
• 3:36:47
  But what's your view? Well, it's not really, it's not
• 3:36:51
  my view, or it's, you know, it's not that Okay, so my problem is
• 3:36:58
  with their View. And what they how they justify
• 3:37:03
  their View. And biblically accurate man.
• 3:37:07
  You know I'm an open-minded guy well unless there anything I
• 3:37:11
  talked to a guy who believes he's in the snow globe go for
• 3:37:13
  it. Well I mean it's not very
• 3:37:16
  impressive but all I don't really have much of a belief on
• 3:37:21
  the Trinity for one thing. I mean I'm a pan in theists so
• 3:37:28
  if you and what that means like practically speaking when I when
• 3:37:33
  I and like Are you familiar with acts 17 and Paul at Mars Hill?
• 3:37:40
  Don't have my Bible open right now, but I'm willing to hear you
• 3:37:44
  out on it. Let's see what we got.
• 3:37:47
  Okay, so I'm gonna I'm gonna argue that.
• 3:37:52
  I mean, if you understand what Paul is doing in the chapter and
• 3:37:55
  I guess let me pull up on my phone so I can actually read it.
• 3:38:00
  All right, I was raised on the Trinity but I no longer.
• 3:38:06
  You don't believe in it anymore there Tony with what happened
• 3:38:09
  with you. You said you were born into it.
• 3:38:11
  I took many years before people could convince me and make sense
• 3:38:15
  of it. Well, I was raised in a pack
• 3:38:18
  Hospital Christian home and that's all we believe.
• 3:38:21
  Father, son, holy spirit. So it was it was like second
• 3:38:25
  nature to me but but those are all biblical terms if I could
• 3:38:29
  remind you. Maybe.
• 3:38:31
  Yeah. But I read the scriptures for
• 3:38:34
  myself and I really saw There's more scriptures point in the
• 3:38:38
  opposite direction. The you know you know what makes
• 3:38:41
  this whole thing confusing is a there's two things that I can
• 3:38:46
  think of. Number one is the the main two
• 3:38:50
  manuscripts that people look at, you have the Septuagint and then
• 3:38:55
  you have the measure Eric text, a lot of people that are on the
• 3:38:59
  trinitarian side. They don't agree with this
• 3:39:03
  intuition. But people like me, I see more
• 3:39:08
  validation and more accuracy with the mat with a as erratic
• 3:39:13
  text, and just what happened, the entire state of Israel.
• 3:39:18
  Actually prefers the measure of execs to and people can say well
• 3:39:21
  that's because they don't believe in Jesus know because
• 3:39:24
  they have Scholars. That know what they're doing?
• 3:39:27
  They know. The man you can measure X is
• 3:39:29
  more reliable. Well, so far you've been telling
• 3:39:34
  me that there's this other group of folks who are simply bright
• 3:39:38
  and really good at what they're doing.
• 3:39:40
  What are they saying though? Tony, that's getting excited.
• 3:39:43
  That's the part I want to hear. What are you talking about?
• 3:39:48
  We just told us. Well, there's these other folks
• 3:39:50
  over here. They're saying this and the
• 3:39:53
  interpret really well and that's why I go with it but you didn't
• 3:39:56
  exactly tell us what it is that they came up with white
• 3:40:01
  convinced you oh, as far as the whole Oneness or trinitarian
• 3:40:06
  issue. Okay, so what is your view is
• 3:40:09
  Jesus. A separate entity is a
• 3:40:12
  completely different personality is even connected, or We simply
• 3:40:16
  fill in the role. What is it?
• 3:40:18
  What is it? Came from me, he's the son of
• 3:40:22
  God. He's not God, the son that's a
• 3:40:26
  difference, you know, I believe that he existed prior to the,
• 3:40:31
  ER, the creation of the Earth, but as yahweh's First, Holy
• 3:40:37
  Spirit. In other words, the spirit that
• 3:40:39
  came out of Yahweh who Yahweh used to create the Earth in the
• 3:40:43
  first place, that's why here. Has he created being or did he
• 3:40:48
  always exist? He's a created being according
• 3:40:51
  to the masoretic text. Now, if you read the Septuagint,
• 3:40:55
  you'll see that all he's ever lasting for eternity.
• 3:40:59
  See, there's a big difference there.
• 3:41:02
  When you read the masoretic, actually says he had a
• 3:41:05
  beginning, but he read that said to Urgent.
• 3:41:08
  It says he had eternity see, big difference.
• 3:41:13
  Mmm. What about you?
• 3:41:15
  What do you think over there sir?
• 3:41:17
  You're kind of just chilling back.
• 3:41:20
  Yeah. Well can I go into acts 17?
• 3:41:27
  You can go into whatever you like them.
• 3:41:29
  I'm not like these other religious folks.
• 3:41:31
  Worth you say something unusual. I'm going to start slapping my
• 3:41:35
  forehead and screaming are taking sets it on.
• 3:41:37
  Fire over here. I'll listen all you got.
• 3:41:41
  Yeah. Sometimes it's better for me
• 3:41:43
  instead of just, you know, if I when I just State my beliefs
• 3:41:47
  plainly it's just like generally it's like Can a reaction or
• 3:41:51
  whatever in that? Oh, heretic or whatever.
• 3:41:55
  That's obviously false or I just got them listening to an hour of
• 3:41:59
  monkey surfing and fucking seaweed. 900 miles an octopus
• 3:42:03
  riding on comments, to get here to Earth.
• 3:42:05
  So trust me. I've heard some shit.
• 3:42:09
  Yeah, me too. Anyway, sometimes it's better if
• 3:42:14
  I just because I for my beliefs because of the Bible, but
• 3:42:19
  anyways, Now while Paul, this is acts 17 verse 16, this is a
• 3:42:24
  going to, I'm just going to go with the whole story here but
• 3:42:28
  I'll just read through it all. And then I'll go back and
• 3:42:30
  comment just so you can just get the unvarnished since maybe, but
• 3:42:35
  this, the new King James. Now, while Paul waited for them,
• 3:42:39
  at Athens, his Spirit was provoked within him.
• 3:42:42
  When he saw that, the city was given over to Idols, therefore
• 3:42:45
  he reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and with the
• 3:42:48
  Gentile worshipers and in the Good place daily with those who
• 3:42:51
  happen to be there then certain Epicurean and stoic philosophers
• 3:42:55
  encountered him and some said, what does this babbler want to
• 3:42:58
  say? Other said, he seems to be a
• 3:43:00
  proclaimer of foreign Gods because he preached to them
• 3:43:03
  Jesus and the resurrection, and they took him and brought him to
• 3:43:07
  the areopagus saying, may we know what this new doctrine is
• 3:43:10
  of yours, which you speak for, you are bringing some strange
• 3:43:13
  things to our ears. Therefore, we want to know what
• 3:43:16
  these things mean for all the Athenians and the Foreigners who
• 3:43:20
  were there spent their time in nothing else.
• 3:43:22
  But either to tell or to hear some new thing then Paul stood
• 3:43:26
  in the midst of the areopagus and said, men of Athens, I
• 3:43:30
  perceive that in all things you are very religious for as I was
• 3:43:35
  passing through and considering the objects of your worship.
• 3:43:37
  I even found an altar with this inscription to the unknown.
• 3:43:41
  God therefore the one whom you worship.
• 3:43:44
  Without knowing him I Proclaim to you.
• 3:43:46
  God who made the world and everything.
• 3:43:50
  Everything in it since he is. Lord of Heaven and Earth does
• 3:43:54
  not dwell in temples made with hands.
• 3:43:56
  Nor is he worshipped with men's hands as though he needed
• 3:44:00
  anything? Since he gives life.
• 3:44:03
  I mean since he gives to all life breath and all things, and
• 3:44:09
  he has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on the
• 3:44:13
  face of the Earth and has determined their pre appointed
• 3:44:16
  times and the boundaries of their dwellings.
• 3:44:19
  So that they should seek the Lord in the hope that they might
• 3:44:23
  grope for him and find him though.
• 3:44:25
  He is not far from each one of us for in him.
• 3:44:30
  We live and move and have our being as also, some of your own
• 3:44:35
  poets have said for we are also his offspring therefore since we
• 3:44:42
  are The Offspring of God, we ought not to think that the
• 3:44:46
  divine nature is like gold and silver Stone.
• 3:44:50
  In shape by Art and man's devising.
• 3:44:52
  Truly these times of ignorance, God, overlooked.
• 3:44:56
  But now commands all men everywhere to repent because he
• 3:44:59
  has appointed a day on which he will judge the world in
• 3:45:02
  righteousness, by the man whom he has ordained.
• 3:45:05
  He has given Assurance of this to All by raising him from the
• 3:45:08
  dead. And when they heard of the
• 3:45:10
  resurrection of the Dead, some mocked.
• 3:45:13
  While others said, we will hear you again on this matter.
• 3:45:16
  So Paul departed from among them, okay?
• 3:45:19
  So, So, if you were listening carefully, Paul taught Paul
• 3:45:24
  talks about the divine nature. He says, we shouldn't think that
• 3:45:28
  the divine nature is like silver and gold and precious stone.
• 3:45:32
  And what is his argument because he's just referred to the
• 3:45:38
  children, The Offspring of God, and that's what the word in the
• 3:45:41
  Greek. Is that it's The Offspring, it's
• 3:45:44
  his offspring are divided. Its, you shouldn't think the
• 3:45:49
  divine nature. Here is like gold and silver
• 3:45:52
  know you can look at a human being who is an offspring of God
• 3:45:58
  and tell that the divine nature isn't like those things that's
• 3:46:02
  Paul's argument because the divine nature is revealed when
• 3:46:06
  you see a man. Because were The Offspring just
• 3:46:11
  like he said, because in him God in him we live and move.
• 3:46:15
  What does it mean for in him? We have our being Okay so this
• 3:46:21
  just okay this is now if you if you reject the creation ex
• 3:46:25
  nihilo Greek you know classical theists, you know, derived
• 3:46:31
  system you know I don't think you get anything from nothing
• 3:46:35
  you don't you don't get something from nothing not even
• 3:46:37
  God gets something from nothing. You know, so and then we have.
• 3:46:44
  Okay so now let me turn to Psalm to Psalm Psalm 90 and I'm gonna,
• 3:46:50
  you know, quote Moses here. Appreciate your patience.
• 3:46:59
  Excuse me. Okay.
• 3:47:00
  Psalm 90 The Eternity. Well, okay.
• 3:47:04
  Psalm 90 a prayer of Moses, the man of God.
• 3:47:08
  That's part of the text Lord. You have been our Dwelling Place
• 3:47:13
  in all generations. Before the mountains were born
• 3:47:18
  or ever you birth the Earth in the world.
• 3:47:22
  Even from Everlasting to Everlasting you are God.
• 3:47:26
  Okay. So this is Moses I mean he knows
• 3:47:28
  the Genesis story and how does he describe God bringing the
• 3:47:33
  Earth in the world into existence?
• 3:47:35
  He birthed, he uses the birth metaphor.
• 3:47:39
  That's not creation, EX nihilo. You see, you understand like a
• 3:47:44
  mother, and a has a baby, they're related.
• 3:47:48
  They have the same nature. The baby is not the mother,
• 3:47:52
  okay? And in this case, you know, God
• 3:47:55
  can birth the universe out of himself, the stuff of what he is
• 3:48:00
  because God has a temporal being, he's not outside of time
• 3:48:04
  and he's he's in space, he fills all space, right?
• 3:48:09
  That's what I'm going to argue again because like Here from
• 3:48:14
  even from Everlasting to Everlasting.
• 3:48:17
  That's a temporal statement that's talking about in time and
• 3:48:22
  everywhere, without exception, the Bible talks about God and
• 3:48:28
  His exist, you know, it speaks of them and temporal terms, the
• 3:48:32
  Bible presents. God is very old bottom line.
• 3:48:38
  So those are some of the reasons why I think God is This, it's a
• 3:48:43
  pantheistic universe pan in theistic Universe, we live in
• 3:48:47
  that pantheistic where God is group The Creator.
• 3:48:51
  He in time, he chose a point to create, he birthed the universe
• 3:48:57
  and then, you know, it's not really much different after that
• 3:49:00
  point. You know, we have a universe now
• 3:49:02
  and, you know, he's given everything its properties, you
• 3:49:07
  know, he can like, for instance, God stuff.
• 3:49:11
  Okay. The stuff It's God is of which
• 3:49:13
  all of us have here, you know, I even though you made the
• 3:49:16
  universe you know he still makes rocks and trees and where Paul
• 3:49:20
  can make these distinctions between a human being and that's
• 3:49:23
  tough but even John the Baptist said, God could make a child, a
• 3:49:26
  child of Abraham out of that stone.
• 3:49:30
  Right. And that fits my view of a pan
• 3:49:33
  in theistic existence because it's all fundamentally God
• 3:49:37
  stuff. God can make it like, for
• 3:49:40
  instance, God himself. He can jeez, you know, God is
• 3:49:45
  not visible, but we see times where God makes himself visible,
• 3:49:53
  And then he cannot be visible again.
• 3:49:56
  Like, you know, some of these Old Testament, like I can turn
• 3:49:59
  to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah Machinery.
• 3:50:03
  We specifically saying simplistically, that all that we
• 3:50:06
  see around us is the very essence of God, that it came
• 3:50:10
  from God. Himself that he didn't just
• 3:50:13
  magically pop the something into existence, exactly.
• 3:50:17
  He didn't pull it out of a hat, you know?
• 3:50:19
  Exactly. That's all.
• 3:50:20
  I'm Say and he so essentially all things could be said to have
• 3:50:25
  divine origin and be made of the Divine you know they can like
• 3:50:30
  that's why a human being is divided it by Nature.
• 3:50:35
  A human being is divine. In other words, it's part of
• 3:50:39
  God. You know it's made from God, you
• 3:50:42
  know. And that's what it means to be
• 3:50:45
  divine is to be of divinity, of the Divine, you know.
• 3:50:51
  That's what we are. So that's one reason why I
• 3:50:54
  reject, I mean this is the biblical text is driving me to
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  these places but I reject the hypostatic union, it never made
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  any sense. Anyways, look an entity a
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  individual and individual, right?
• 3:51:11
  Only has a nature, okay? And that nature is what
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  describes that entity? You just include all of this,
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  you know, all of his traits or attributes.
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  That's, you know, that's what we described.
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  That's how we describe a nature. A you know, a thing doesn't have
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  two Natures that's that's to me. It's a contradiction, its
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  incoherent, you know, it's like I mean it's like huh?
• 3:51:42
  It and they're only forced to do that because they have other
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  presuppositions about God and stuff that they You think
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  prevent them from? You know, they can't, you know,
• 3:51:55
  these people then I see in people, they can't have like
• 3:52:00
  they wouldn't admit that. The Hume is the human flesh of
• 3:52:04
  Jesus divine, ask a trinitarian that is the human flesh of Jesus
• 3:52:09
  divine and you and asks you what they say and what do you think
• 3:52:13
  about that question? Well, I agree with you.
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  We clearly says in the Bible that God breathed his life into
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  us. And obviously he used all of his
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  wisdom as power and abilities to be able to create all of
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  existence. I just didn't know the word for
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  it, but that's pretty much where I'm at on it.
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  Okay. And see my argument is really a
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  christological argument because it starts with Jesus.
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  And if you think about this for a minute, imagine G, okay?
• 3:52:47
  So imagine God, okay. He wants to make a, you know,
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  human being, you know where you know, he wants to have this
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  creature. That he can enjoy life with
• 3:53:01
  right and a loving relationship with that's what my premises.
• 3:53:05
  That's why God created that to me.
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  That's the only thing that makes sense.
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  The why you would create is so he could have these, that his
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  loving nature of which he is. Just, you know, it's the kind of
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  thing that wants to share even, you know, he is not that he's
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  not satisfied because he's completely content within his
• 3:53:27
  own relationship, that's fine. But it's still.
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  I mean to me that he, you know, he has the idea that how he I
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  can make us millions of these billions of these things, these
• 3:53:42
  creatures and have relationships with them.
• 3:53:45
  You know, if I make them, you know, like me, right?
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  And that's what, you know, where made in the image of God, you're
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  right. Okay.
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  So and like it at least two times directly in the New
• 3:53:59
  Testament, and maybe three times.
• 3:54:01
  But Paul says, that Jesus actually is the image of God.
• 3:54:07
  He doesn't say that Jesus is made in the image of God.
• 3:54:10
  He kind of says that Jesus is the image of God.
• 3:54:14
  Now, If you look at the incarnated Christ, the human
• 3:54:19
  gee, you know, the human being that Jesus is right.
• 3:54:23
  And and Paul says he is the image that's that man, Jesus
• 3:54:30
  that in history, that was the image of God.
• 3:54:33
  He calls him the image now. So I take that idea and I see.
• 3:54:38
  Oh, that makes sense. Jesus.
• 3:54:41
  Okay, so getting back to God. Okay, I'm going to make these
• 3:54:43
  creatures. What's it going to look like?
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  What? What kind of attributes?
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  I know I'll think of the word, you know, I'll think of myself
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  kind of, right? I'll think of myself.
• 3:54:54
  If I became, you know, this visible, you know, if I created
• 3:55:01
  a like a universe, a physical Universe, you know, and made
• 3:55:06
  these creatures, you know, what would it look like?
• 3:55:09
  What would it consists of? What kind of attributes would I
• 3:55:12
  have? Well, if I became that and now,
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  okay. So that means okay, in God's
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  mind, he pictured. The human person Jesus with, you
• 3:55:27
  know, the perfect human being, right?
• 3:55:29
  Himself represented as a human being, okay?
• 3:55:33
  That's the prototypical. I that's what a prototypical
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  human is now, is the man God God, in the form of a man, do
• 3:55:42
  you understand so far? Okay, so now Now that now that
• 3:55:47
  God has this image, right? That he knows what it's going to
• 3:55:50
  look like he creates Adam when he, you know, creates the
• 3:55:55
  Colette, you know, forms the clay.
• 3:55:57
  He makes it into that image of Jesus of the human Jesus if that
• 3:56:02
  makes sense. The Prototype, the Prototype of
• 3:56:05
  how Humanity even though he's not a human yet.
• 3:56:09
  But God, you know, God knows that much that he's going to
• 3:56:12
  make. I mean, that's how he designed
• 3:56:14
  the. Of being off of this
• 3:56:16
  prototypical idea of Jesus, or of himself comes to be named
• 3:56:21
  Jesus when he does it, but does that make sense?
• 3:56:24
  And then, so God creates man, after his own image, the image
• 3:56:29
  that he would take if he was that thing.
• 3:56:32
  That's what I think the image of God means so.
• 3:56:35
  And it's based on us. This christological argument
• 3:56:38
  that Jesus is a human in every respect, just like us.
• 3:56:43
  No, two Nature's, just the one nature.
• 3:56:46
  It's the, he's Divine because we're Divine.
• 3:56:48
  It's no, there's nothing his divinity, though.
• 3:56:51
  I mean his when he when he became incarnate you can go to
• 3:56:55
  Philippians, right? He gave up his deity so you know
• 3:57:00
  whatever he gave up his Divine attributes to become, you know,
• 3:57:04
  as far as his power, you know. Like cuz we know Jesus had to
• 3:57:10
  learn things, right? He he didn't all things he you
• 3:57:15
  know and then then you get to the all these Passages at the
• 3:57:20
  trinitarians claim for their arguments, don't work half of
• 3:57:25
  them more than half because if you just like how many arguments
• 3:57:29
  that will be made out of John 17 where you know I and the father
• 3:57:34
  are one Right, that's that's I mean that's almost one of the
• 3:57:39
  key New Testament passages but it's really, it's just the way
• 3:57:44
  of proof texting because if you read the passage, you'll see
• 3:57:48
  that Jesus prays about us becoming one with them in the
• 3:57:53
  same way. Yeah, exactly.
• 3:57:56
  Now, yeah, that's a little bugger in your wicked if you ask
• 3:58:00
  me. I mean, but not to him.
• 3:58:03
  That's because he The father is one in spirit.
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  In other words, everyone that one in the sense that they're
• 3:58:10
  arguing. We know that.
• 3:58:12
  Yeah, I know. But yeah, it's a script without
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  saying, what it does is argue I'm saying, you know, you know,
• 3:58:20
  it's not arguing that point. Maybe it's Up For Debate, what
• 3:58:24
  he is saying, but I don't think it's that far out of reach to
• 3:58:28
  interpret the passage because there's two places where you
• 3:58:32
  were becomes. Clear one is John 17.
• 3:58:37
  And that's where Jesus is talking to the father you know,
• 3:58:40
  where he says father the hour has come glorify your son so it
• 3:58:44
  had that they might know you the only true God, the only true God
• 3:58:51
  and to know Jesus Christ, the one that you sent you know, and
• 3:58:57
  then he goes on to say, make them one as we are one.
• 3:59:01
  And what did he mean? He preferred to the holy spirit
• 3:59:04
  in the in a believer? Because the scripture in the
• 3:59:08
  book of Acts is anyone, that is joined to, the Lord is one
• 3:59:11
  Spirit. You're number one with God and
• 3:59:15
  Jesus. Well, that's what I believe.
• 3:59:18
  Salvation, it entails is that related, that's what it means to
• 3:59:21
  be related to God is when you have his Spirit when he's, you
• 3:59:26
  know, like Jesus talked about, in John 14, The comforter will
• 3:59:32
  come, you know, and he'll be with you forever.
• 3:59:36
  Exact long. As long as you don't Rebel,
• 3:59:39
  Yeah. So, where are you back brat on
• 3:59:46
  the once saved, always saved controversy.
• 3:59:50
  Once saved, always saved, that's something I struggled with as
• 3:59:54
  well. A lot of people make good
• 3:59:56
  arguments on both sides but it does bother me.
• 4:00:00
  Like, for instance, the Jeffrey Dahmer example, I've given
• 4:00:04
  folks. Have you heard that one?
• 4:00:07
  Well, he became a Believer at the end, right?
• 4:00:09
  Yeah. At the end and he was ironically
• 4:00:12
  killed by a cellmate that was referred to as the chosen one
• 4:00:18
  just a couple weeks after Converted and I don't know, I
• 4:00:23
  find it unusual but I know that we're all referred to do know
• 4:00:27
  how that, but I mean, that's an interesting story.
• 4:00:30
  I don't know how it applies to once saved.
• 4:00:32
  Always saved though because he would have been saved at.
• 4:00:35
  I mean, everybody, we always hear about the great deathbed
• 4:00:39
  conversions, that would be similar case.
• 4:00:42
  I mean, it wasn't a question of him falling away, was there?
• 4:00:46
  Something no. No, it seemed like he was
• 4:00:49
  genuine. And sincere.
• 4:00:51
  I guess I've struggled with this, I struggled with, I've
• 4:00:55
  also struggled with the whole faith without works because
• 4:00:59
  there's some Christians who say I you don't need to do any
• 4:01:02
  actions or some Christians who actually convinced that they
• 4:01:05
  could sit on their ass all day, eating twinkies and play
• 4:01:07
  Nintendo and it's fucking good to go.
• 4:01:10
  I don't know, I don't know. I'm a newbie at this.
• 4:01:13
  Well, it's pretty simple Brett from the newts entire New
• 4:01:19
  Testament is Clear. And this is how it is clear.
• 4:01:23
  In Revelation. Correct me if I'm wrong but
• 4:01:26
  doesn't it get warnings and plagues and Punishment to
• 4:01:31
  people. If the present Revelation that
• 4:01:35
  not only will you be judged based upon the iniquity that
• 4:01:38
  you've committed, but you'll also be judged on your works so
• 4:01:42
  that cuz I, the books are open and they were judged by the end.
• 4:01:47
  I think it's their words and deeds.
• 4:01:49
  Isn't it works? Yeah, it's their works, the
• 4:01:54
  Revelation. Messes me up on the whole
• 4:01:56
  Trinity issue as well. That's one of the things that
• 4:01:59
  still get me because it appears as though it God is giving over
• 4:02:03
  his inheritance to his son and God is referred to as a king
• 4:02:07
  where the sun is referred to, as a prince, the relationship, the
• 4:02:11
  kind of unusual there, but like I said, it reads, sometimes to
• 4:02:15
  me I hope this doesn't offend anybody but like a political
• 4:02:18
  manual either side can make arguments.
• 4:02:21
  And all that. And then the end who is actually
• 4:02:24
  right? See you said my sister irenic?
• 4:02:26
  You want people who are humble? It's a don't know sometimes.
• 4:02:29
  Well, that's where I'm at. Yeah, that's fine.
• 4:02:32
  I mean, I okay I have a, you know, I see the Book of
• 4:02:36
  Revelation for certain reasons. I mean, it, you know, I am not
• 4:02:41
  the first to put Matthew 24 and the Book of Revelation together
• 4:02:46
  and and I do that to accept that.
• 4:02:49
  I see, you know, I understand Jesus, as an apocalyptic
• 4:02:53
  preacher, he's on the scene to proclaim the, a judgment, the
• 4:02:59
  soon coming judgment on Jerusalem because in this is the
• 4:03:04
  last time I mean, so this is why at the end, you know, in Matthew
• 4:03:09
  21, I think that you got the parable of the vineyard keeper.
• 4:03:14
  And you know, he lays out basically lays out the history
• 4:03:17
  of Israel, you know, this, the king went Least is land to
• 4:03:23
  others, you know? And which is basically the
• 4:03:27
  nation of Israel. And he sent servants to it to
• 4:03:31
  collect its fruit and they you know, mistreated all these
• 4:03:34
  prophets, you know, all the servants, they sent you know,
• 4:03:37
  time again and then oh finally he sends his son you know.
• 4:03:43
  And and there I think it's important he says last of all I
• 4:03:46
  mean the pair of Jesus used the word last of all.
• 4:03:50
  I mean, it sounds like there's no other chances if they reject
• 4:03:53
  this time because, you know, in the parable is says he sent his
• 4:03:57
  son. And, and instead of respecting
• 4:04:00
  his son, they said, oh, we'll, we'll see you soon, we'll kill
• 4:04:05
  him. It was and will seize the
• 4:04:06
  inheritance for ourselves right now, Jesus says, What will, what
• 4:04:11
  will that King do? Those people?
• 4:04:13
  Do you think he asked the juice? You know, there's these
• 4:04:16
  Pharisees and they said, oh Hil, He'll take him, he'll take the
• 4:04:24
  land and, and give it to others and it will utterly destroy
• 4:04:27
  those people? You know, that were in charge.
• 4:04:30
  Yeah. And Jesus says, yeah.
• 4:04:32
  You're right. And he says, the kingdom of God
• 4:04:37
  is taken from you and that are the kingdom of God will be taken
• 4:04:41
  from you and given to a nation or a people that an ethnos that
• 4:04:45
  will produce its fruit. So I see that.
• 4:04:50
  You know, the coming destruction, you know, and then
• 4:04:52
  just, that's what, you know, Jesus predicts, the coming
• 4:04:54
  destruction of the 70 AD, you know, in Matthew 24, especially
• 4:05:02
  if you read Luke's interpretation there, you'll see
• 4:05:04
  that, you know, instead of the Abomination.
• 4:05:07
  Well, you know, Matthew says, when you, you know cheese
• 4:05:11
  because. Okay, here's the thing, they're
• 4:05:12
  talking about they're gone through the temple him and his
• 4:05:16
  disciples in there, admiring all the beauty in everything and And
• 4:05:21
  that's when Jesus says, hey, well, there's a day coming, when
• 4:05:24
  not one stone will be left on another and that strikes up some
• 4:05:29
  curiosity in the decide. Well, when will that when's that
• 4:05:32
  gonna happen? You know, and what will, what
• 4:05:34
  will be the sign that this is going to take place?
• 4:05:37
  You know, that's what they ask them.
• 4:05:39
  And so he tells them, you know, and he there's certain things
• 4:05:43
  that I'll be going on. Don't worry about that.
• 4:05:45
  You know, you'll hear Wars rumors of wars, they'll be
• 4:05:48
  earthquakes in various You know, all this happened between the
• 4:05:52
  time of Jesus and 70 AD and even the the gospel will be preached
• 4:06:01
  in all the world. And Paul confesses that he says,
• 4:06:09
  you know, he preached the gospel to the entire world, you know, I
• 4:06:14
  don't know. You know, you can call it
• 4:06:16
  hyperbole if you want but, you know, he does say it.
• 4:06:19
  And then if the If Paul statement was hyperbolic than
• 4:06:22
  maybe Jesus was too, because the prophets often spoke in
• 4:06:25
  hyperbole. But anyways, the thing is Luke,
• 4:06:30
  we're Jesus talks about the when you and then he says, when you
• 4:06:33
  see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel,
• 4:06:37
  the Prophet standing in the Holy place.
• 4:06:39
  Let him, you know who let him here's understand or whatever.
• 4:06:45
  Okay, at that point now Luke is generally understood good as
• 4:06:51
  writing to a gentile audience. So instead of that statement,
• 4:06:54
  right? The abomination of desolation
• 4:06:56
  spoken of by Daniel standing in the Holy place, okay, what does
• 4:07:00
  that mean? A lot of argument has gone on
• 4:07:03
  about that phrase but where Luke has it, when you see Jerusalem
• 4:07:10
  surrounded by armies, then know that it's desolation is near.
• 4:07:16
  Okay, so if you just understand that this is all about near
• 4:07:22
  warrant, like Jesus told the group of his disciples, just
• 4:07:27
  this was just days before the Transfiguration in a lot of
• 4:07:30
  people claim. The Transfiguration is this
• 4:07:32
  idea, but I disagree because what Jesus said, well, okay, so
• 4:07:37
  Jesus says this to his disciples, there are some of you
• 4:07:41
  standing here that will not taste death, until you see the
• 4:07:46
  son of Coming in his kingdom. Now, coming in his kingdom
• 4:07:51
  language. That everybody thinks that's a
• 4:07:53
  second coming. No, that is God.
• 4:07:56
  Coming in judgment. That's Old Testament.
• 4:07:58
  Prophet language. You can see it.
• 4:08:00
  I could take you to it, where you'll read about God.
• 4:08:03
  Coming on the clouds or riding the Chariots and it's like this,
• 4:08:08
  you know, weird poetic they call it apocalyptic language, you
• 4:08:13
  know, based on Revelation. But um, You know it's this
• 4:08:17
  imagery it's just it's you know it's basically what's going on
• 4:08:21
  is God's, you know, and inspiring One Nation Babylon to
• 4:08:25
  go and attack. You know, that's how he brings
• 4:08:28
  judgment but they speak about it in these other term, you know,
• 4:08:31
  poetic terms of dragons and you know, bear it kingdoms and
• 4:08:36
  oceans and things, you know, like that.
• 4:08:39
  So I know I'm rambling on here but it's a lot of information
• 4:08:43
  that people are like you got to be able to connect these dots
• 4:08:46
  and Actually really familiar with the Old Testament.
• 4:08:48
  You're going to miss a lot of this stuff.
• 4:08:50
  And, you know, I had helped along the way to be able to
• 4:08:53
  consider this idea and it to me, it makes a lot more sense that.
• 4:08:57
  So, I'm a predator. I'm what you call a partial
• 4:09:00
  preterist when it comes to, like Matthew 24 in the Book of
• 4:09:03
  Revelation, I think the Book of Revelation is about the same
• 4:09:06
  period of time, except to the end, when then, you know, any
• 4:09:11
  kind of chapter after chapter 19.
• 4:09:13
  I think, you know, then we see the scene in heaven, sort of at
• 4:09:16
  the end. The end, you know, the book, but
• 4:09:18
  all of it fits, if you read a certain way in a first century
• 4:09:22
  context and fulfilled already, most of Revelation is fulfilled.
• 4:09:27
  There is no future second coming.
• 4:09:30
  Apart from just, the end when Jesus shows up the resurrection
• 4:09:34
  happens, the debtor judge and then we all enter the new
• 4:09:38
  heavens and the new Earth. That's the biblical model.
• 4:09:41
  That's the biblical plan as I see it and all that's all we're
• 4:09:49
  What's your thoughts, Tony? Casa Harvest.
• 4:09:56
  Oh man. I'll tell you what your
• 4:09:57
  microphone is going to satanic on me again.
• 4:10:00
  Yeah, right. My thoughts and how it's going
• 4:10:03
  to end me? So what he was just saying, what
• 4:10:08
  do you have a particular Millennial view?
• 4:10:11
  Like are you pre like my view is called amillennial?
• 4:10:13
  Like I'm a millennial that which means I don't believe in a
• 4:10:16
  literal thousand year reign of Christ in the future.
• 4:10:20
  After, you know, this is at the rat, you know, at the at the
• 4:10:24
  Rapture event or whatever, right?
• 4:10:26
  Some people think the Millennium, right?
• 4:10:28
  So, the Millennium is a thousand years on earth, right?
• 4:10:32
  If you're, if you're premillennial, you believe that,
• 4:10:34
  Jesus will come before, that thousand years.
• 4:10:38
  And that's what most I would say.
• 4:10:40
  Most Americans kind of are taught, that kind of idea.
• 4:10:43
  Okay. Then there's a there's a
• 4:10:45
  post-millennial view right? Which is no the Thousand Years
• 4:10:49
  doesn't really or the Thousand Years.
• 4:10:53
  It will happen. And then Christ will show up.
• 4:10:56
  There's like this really dark period of Revival.
• 4:11:00
  We're almost the entire world is converted and we live for a
• 4:11:03
  thousand years and that that condition judging the wicked and
• 4:11:07
  stuff, or whatever, you know, because they a lot, they have to
• 4:11:10
  allow for these bad. People are around in Armageddon
• 4:11:13
  and stuff, and then Jesus comes back and, you know, finally
• 4:11:19
  judges everything and in the amillennial view, at least my
• 4:11:23
  particular brand sees the thousand years as representative
• 4:11:27
  of a long period of time. It's not exactly a thousand
• 4:11:30
  years doesn't have to be just a, it represents a long, you know,
• 4:11:34
  a long time. Between Jesus first coming and
• 4:11:36
  his second coming. So that's that's what the,
• 4:11:42
  what's the Rapture look like for you?
• 4:11:45
  Yeah, to me, the Rapture is just, the Rapture is just the
• 4:11:49
  rub. This is the resurrection
• 4:11:51
  experience of someone who's alive and hadn't experienced
• 4:11:55
  death. That's how I see it and there's
• 4:11:57
  just one event like if you read in second Peter 3, you know, the
• 4:12:02
  great day of God, when you Now, there's, you know, it's going to
• 4:12:06
  include the resurrection. Like, if you go to First
• 4:12:10
  Corinthians 15, second Thessalonians, chapter 1,
• 4:12:14
  Matthew 13. Parable of the weeds and tears
• 4:12:17
  and its interpretation, put all that stuff together.
• 4:12:20
  You see, there's just one event. We're waiting for in the future
• 4:12:23
  that Jesus is going to come back on that day.
• 4:12:27
  Like John 5 says there's an hour when all who are in the graves,
• 4:12:30
  will hear his voice and come forth.
• 4:12:33
  Some to a resurrection of life. Life some to Resurrection of
• 4:12:36
  condemnation which in John, usually reached first to death.
• 4:12:40
  So there's going to be that judgment.
• 4:12:42
  The resurrection is the Judgment.
• 4:12:44
  That's how I see it and some will receive new bodies like we
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  read about First Corinthians, 15 will read, you know, the
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  immortal Immortal will put on immortality that incorrupt.
• 4:12:55
  The corruptible will put on incorruption.
• 4:12:57
  That's like what we see Jesus in his resurrection.
• 4:13:01
  So he was the first fruits. We're going to follow a During
• 4:13:05
  that model, right? We're going to be raised like he
• 4:13:08
  was in bodies like his okay, but that the wicked aren't raised
• 4:13:11
  that way. They're they're raised and
• 4:13:13
  they're just going to be raised eye.
• 4:13:15
  I see a picture of where just by Nature because they can't
• 4:13:20
  withstand God, unmask and All His glory.
• 4:13:24
  They just burned up sent, you know, they're it and it's, you
• 4:13:27
  know, and so I don't have to, I don't really take the Judgment.
• 4:13:31
  Seems that literally, you know, I don't see it.
• 4:13:34
  Necessary. Just, you know, to express a
• 4:13:37
  great destruction, one, you don't want to be a part of, you
• 4:13:40
  know. So the I'm an Annihilation is
• 4:13:43
  when it comes to that, but it's only because of its not God,
• 4:13:48
  burning people up on purpose. It's just the consequence of The
• 4:13:52
  Facts of nature when you're in your body, you know, this body
• 4:13:58
  here and you're exposed to God. That's a fact of nature.
• 4:14:02
  You just can't, you know, you just like In the Bible talks
• 4:14:05
  about like the man of sin being destroyed by the brightness of
• 4:14:08
  his coming, you know, the epiphany of his parasya.
• 4:14:15
  You know, it's it's this brightness.
• 4:14:17
  It's a shining forth is has a destructive nature to it.
• 4:14:21
  That's the idea, powerful energy surge and they don't have the
• 4:14:26
  protection on them and it right without having been raised in
• 4:14:31
  that body, that's the gift of. That's what that's What?
• 4:14:35
  You know, that's what the Christian hope is is to have the
• 4:14:38
  is the resurrection, you know. And then so yeah, you're raised
• 4:14:43
  with Teflon, you know, coding or asbestos coding to answer your
• 4:14:48
  question. I think I'm more free pretty, I
• 4:14:52
  guess. Free premillennial.
• 4:14:54
  And I guess what? And then by that pre-trip, then
• 4:14:58
  there's pre-trib or post-trib, but that's all premillennial.
• 4:15:01
  Yeah, yeah, the way I see it, is that God himself despite the you
• 4:15:11
  know like you know, in the Old Testament, The Three Angels, one
• 4:15:16
  of them was referred to as Yahweh we have Jacob wrestled
• 4:15:22
  with an Angel but he himself. God, the person I believe didn't
• 4:15:29
  actually show up until Exodus 19.
• 4:15:33
  And that's what, what since 1919 is when he told Moses, okay,
• 4:15:40
  here's what I want you to do. I want you to get the people
• 4:15:44
  ready. I want you to have them wash
• 4:15:46
  their clothes, keep clean, physically and spiritually.
• 4:15:51
  Because on the third day, I'm going to physically come down on
• 4:15:54
  the side of millions of people on the very top of Mount Sinai,
• 4:16:00
  which is today referred to as developed.
• 4:16:03
  Ross in Saudi Arabia. Until today, and you may have to
• 4:16:08
  reload. Again, it's getting fucking
• 4:16:10
  horrible over here, Dad? Yes.
• 4:16:12
  Unfortunately, because it's a, yeah, okay.
• 4:16:16
  So, I'm sorry. So that incident you just
• 4:16:19
  referred to though is long after the burning bush incident so God
• 4:16:24
  didn't reveal himself to Moses and the burning bush.
• 4:16:28
  Yeah, but there was an angel Says I'm gonna, you know, I'm
• 4:16:38
  gonna put my hand and you'll see my backside right in here.
• 4:16:43
  It's not presented as an angels backside, okay?
• 4:16:50
  Every time you pronunce here to get higher pitched at it, just
• 4:16:55
  crackle so bad. I can understand you can you
• 4:16:57
  reload or something please. Because I do put this shit on
• 4:17:00
  the radio and I don't want it to be Satanism and people's
• 4:17:03
  eardrums. Let me try again, hold on.
• 4:17:10
  And I appreciate it. Damn yummy the Revelation.
• 4:17:15
  I, I've heard so many different forms and versions of it.
• 4:17:19
  It seems like there's a lot of symbolic nature and literature
• 4:17:23
  going on. They're trying to describe
• 4:17:24
  something. I have met preterist, but
• 4:17:27
  usually, their view is towards Nero, and Rome and rugged life.
• 4:17:32
  That's part of it. Yeah, that's part of the
• 4:17:34
  argument. Comes now.
• 4:17:36
  But there are there are what are I would call a full print?
• 4:17:40
  You know, there are full Predators, they call themselves
• 4:17:42
  full predators and they don't expect, they think all all
• 4:17:46
  prophecy has been fulfilled. We're not expecting anything in
• 4:17:49
  the future. The resurrection is already
• 4:17:52
  happened. And, you know, we just s expect
• 4:17:56
  life to carry on as it is, I guess forever.
• 4:18:00
  That's their vote in. No mercy right?
• 4:18:03
  They see spiritual fulfillments of all this of what you know
• 4:18:07
  like the resurrection of it and stuff.
• 4:18:09
  I mean they have some pretty convincing arguments if if
• 4:18:13
  you're not real School in the Old Testament and stuff but I
• 4:18:17
  don't know. I mean they're like you know,
• 4:18:19
  like I'm I wouldn't want an unskilled Christian I mean well
• 4:18:25
  I wouldn't care. I mean I mean truth is truth but
• 4:18:29
  a while Well like a guy like Dan Preston who's uh preterists for
• 4:18:34
  his whole career and this. Here's what I don't like about
• 4:18:38
  what. Here's a red flag, I see about
• 4:18:40
  preterism, for instance, full preterism is and there's certain
• 4:18:47
  other things fit in this category within the church like
• 4:18:51
  certain kind of cares Mania stuff, or whatever.
• 4:18:54
  Anyways, they're very it's like you ever meet a Christian and
• 4:19:00
  I'm sure you have that. It's like this one thing is this
• 4:19:04
  is there. This is all I want to talk
• 4:19:06
  about. This is their whole thing about,
• 4:19:08
  you know, is showing the regular Christian.
• 4:19:13
  Why they're, you know, cultish looking view is really the
• 4:19:18
  truth, you know. Yeah.
• 4:19:20
  Being somewhere. They seem to have like a
• 4:19:22
  one-track deal like it's a one-horse Pony show ya, one
• 4:19:26
  horse, whatever, you know, it's like one horse pony, right?
• 4:19:29
  It's that's it. That and they don't have any
• 4:19:32
  depth and anything else. They don't have any interest in
• 4:19:34
  discussing. Like if if the topics you want
• 4:19:37
  or somewhere else, they're sort of, you know, uninterested or
• 4:19:40
  whatever. Because they're thing is to talk
• 4:19:42
  about this, their thing. And I've seen I've seen open
• 4:19:45
  Dias like that. I mean, there's a lot of
• 4:19:48
  non-believers to do it. Yeah.
• 4:19:52
  Oh yeah. It's a common human trait.
• 4:19:54
  I'm just saying, yeah, so you kind of got to anyways.
• 4:20:00
  Sort of, it's okay. So when you look at preterists
• 4:20:03
  full preterist I don't know. I saw that it always seemed like
• 4:20:09
  a kind of commonality among a lot of them that to me.
• 4:20:14
  It's just it's like I said it's a red flag at the, what's a red
• 4:20:18
  flag? It's like I don't know.
• 4:20:19
  Something in my gut tells me that ain't it.
• 4:20:22
  Hey jiving with the truth you know without having an argument
• 4:20:29
  necessarily hey do you have a good picture of yourself me?
• 4:20:35
  The To my ask is I like to make nice thumbnails and my guests
• 4:20:40
  are my, you know, videos. You got any that you are happy
• 4:20:45
  with. I'll see if there's something on
• 4:20:47
  the computer here. I don't think so.
• 4:20:49
  Maybe if you get off my phone probably.
• 4:20:52
  Well, I could take a screenshot of you but you'd have to hold
• 4:20:55
  the position for like five seconds.
• 4:20:58
  All right, hold on. Okay, wait a second.
• 4:21:04
  That didn't go over. Well, I can take one and then
• 4:21:08
  then I can share that if you are all right, we'll make sure you
• 4:21:13
  give a good smile or something. Yeah, let me.
• 4:21:19
  I think I can go to my camera setting, so to be may be
• 4:21:22
  clearing and clutter say money. Let me see my buttons here.
• 4:21:43
  I'm gonna hold on, I got that blur thing on its I'll get rid
• 4:21:47
  of that per second. Defecting.
• 4:21:54
  Money. There you go.
• 4:21:58
  That's a good smile. Go with that Camaro.
• 4:22:01
  Hold on, hold on, hold on. I can adjust it a little more
• 4:22:05
  because I Manilow I think I'm on a low definition.
• 4:22:08
  You'll see I'll be further away, but A little clearer.
• 4:22:12
  Okay? One second, still my camera.
• 4:22:19
  I don't know if that's gonna work.
• 4:22:21
  I don't know why my lycosa. I don't think that's gonna.
• 4:22:25
  Let's see what the screenshot looks like.
• 4:22:28
  But maybe it might be best that you maybe took them already.
• 4:22:31
  Hopefully this will just give me a favor a quick look at the
• 4:22:35
  screen. Go money money.
• 4:22:39
  Alright, that looks good and a work because I have to have to
• 4:22:43
  crop these Oh yeah, it looks. All right.
• 4:22:47
  I'll crack it. Share it anyways.
• 4:22:49
  Just so you can have option. That's a good picture.
• 4:22:57
  Let's see what we got. All right.
• 4:23:02
  Yeah, that'll be good. So here we go.
• 4:23:08
  You won't hurt. You still got some crap.
• 4:23:18
  I don't understand. I've been telling you for the
• 4:23:20
  last couple of years and keep telling get a new mic and like,
• 4:23:23
  you don't want to listen to me, even though I'm right about
• 4:23:25
  everything weird, right? You got disbarred right?
• 4:23:29
  Yeah. You want to send me a link?
• 4:23:33
  Let me see, hold on. Let me say this.
• 4:23:36
  I have a chance to be good. I almost got this picture say I
• 4:23:42
  was just adding in that taking out some of the background,
• 4:23:46
  okay, because I can share, I was going to share this out.
• 4:23:48
  I got a clean version without your without your filters.
• 4:23:55
  Let's see. Well, open up this court.
• 4:23:57
  I might have a little bit of lag.
• 4:23:59
  I do that, though. Let's see.
• 4:24:02
  Alright, this cord to me up just a second.
• 4:24:10
  It just seems like a convenient place to share a photo.
• 4:24:14
  Yeah. All right.
• 4:24:17
  It's up in my bleep. My name on this.
• 4:24:20
  Is that? Yep.
• 4:24:21
  I think you have to send me. I have a have a link.
• 4:24:24
  I have to have an invite link or something and then by oink,
• 4:24:27
  yeah, to get into your I can't just get into your server.
• 4:24:31
  If I don't have an invite and I don't think I'd part of it
• 4:24:35
  warranty able to message me. I don't believe so not there.
• 4:24:41
  Oh, maybe I could maybe I mean you can if your friends and
• 4:24:44
  stuff you can reach out if you at least if I think I don't
• 4:24:46
  know. I don't think I'm in your life.
• 4:24:48
  I'll try I can try to but you know I have to have a little
• 4:24:53
  button to hit to hit to get in somebody's server and I don't
• 4:24:58
  yours isn't on my left hand side there.
• 4:25:00
  What is your what is your username?
• 4:25:04
  It's ironic Collegian. Okay.
• 4:25:09
  I can send you a link to my server.
• 4:25:11
  Okay. All right.
• 4:25:13
  I'll just do that. And then Invite.
• 4:25:20
  Copy. I used to use it.
• 4:25:27
  I am really in this anymore about a parrot, go ahead.
• 4:25:29
  If you go in there and I'll just, I'll tell, I guess I'll
• 4:25:33
  just drop it on the first one, the general chat there.
• 4:25:39
  If you go to General at the bottom, I'll put the picture
• 4:25:42
  there. All right.
• 4:25:43
  Would you give me a link? I end up private chat.
• 4:25:47
  There's a link invite to my channel.
• 4:25:50
  Okay. Upload file.
• 4:25:54
  Step 1. All right.
• 4:26:00
  Looks like I'm going somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 4:26:07
  Wave height also. You see much to see that picture
• 4:26:09
  up above, I do know is that all right?
• 4:26:12
  It hasn't fully loaded yet, I'm still standing controller
• 4:26:15
  spending running a lot of shit in order to do this.
• 4:26:19
  I see. Okay.
• 4:26:20
  Well anyway, it's accessible to you anytime.
• 4:26:26
  Should I get a stand? Should I get a standing mic?
• 4:26:29
  Like, you folks have? We got a problem.
• 4:26:33
  What kind of Mike are you using? I was going to ask you believe
• 4:26:36
  it or not, I'm using it either. But The, which ear you're a
• 4:26:42
  fraud because I do you, are you on a laptop or phone?
• 4:26:47
  All right. I'm I have my earbuds connected
• 4:26:51
  to my big-screen TV and I'm using my big screen as a
• 4:26:54
  monitor. Okay, what?
• 4:27:01
  Okay. So and but your microphone is
• 4:27:03
  your earbuds. If you, if those were not being
• 4:27:06
  used with something else, pick up the That's all I was going to
• 4:27:10
  say yes like try to add music friend real quick and Discord
• 4:27:15
  cuz I got is what happened? What's running stream yard.
• 4:27:18
  Oh okay. Yeah what's running.
• 4:27:20
  What are you running stream? Arizona?
• 4:27:22
  Well I'm also running OBS and oh no I was talking to Tony.
• 4:27:27
  Okay course we had me real quick burn out on this chord.
• 4:27:31
  Yeah I have to get back in there one second I must have to left
• 4:27:42
  click. You going to become a Discord.
• 4:27:50
  I just I just sent you. I just friended you friend and
• 4:27:54
  friend invite at least friend request or whatever you call it.
• 4:27:57
  So, all right, does that now? We should be incommunicado or
• 4:28:01
  communicate? I do not incommunicado.
• 4:28:04
  Okay. Yeah, there it is.
• 4:28:06
  Okay, I see you in your way. Yeah, I got ya.
• 4:28:12
  So, is that where you're going after?
• 4:28:13
  I shut this shit down. No, I don't go in there very
• 4:28:17
  much. And that when we first got off,
• 4:28:20
  you know how I went everyone left Hangouts.
• 4:28:22
  Originally it was like a mad rush, whether it go to
• 4:28:26
  different, it was a couple different platform anyway.
• 4:28:29
  I think was coming out or but Discord was the winner.
• 4:28:33
  Yeah and everybody went in there but now I've come back to
• 4:28:36
  YouTube and stream yard because I like I like video chat more.
• 4:28:41
  I mean I like this platform I mean you can do this in Discord
• 4:28:46
  but Snot broadcast on YouTube? Well, here's the image.
• 4:28:51
  I got You see where am I looking?
• 4:29:00
  I see myself on the screen here and I'm sorry.
• 4:29:03
  Message in this chord. I should sorry.
• 4:29:07
  Sorry sorry. I closed this court that we're
• 4:29:11
  done with that or I thought that's why you wanted me to open
• 4:29:13
  it so I can show you. And you only no I just was like
• 4:29:17
  using Discord to share that picture with I do.
• 4:29:20
  That's all there is. I mean all right okay.
• 4:29:23
  Yeah it's pretty smiley. There you go.
• 4:29:28
  It's I'm a little to squint eyed and for my taste, but oh, well,
• 4:29:31
  that's how I am. Most of the time I look like a
• 4:29:34
  stoner. Yeah, it's me.
• 4:29:40
  All right, so you pausing it down some mr.
• 4:29:44
  Irenic, if you look close out, this court, if you look on the
• 4:29:48
  front page, both of you, you'll see that I do scheduled stuff.
• 4:29:51
  And it'll give you the exact time and the reminder, and I
• 4:29:54
  always had the link out Even before I go live, I'll cool.
• 4:29:59
  You don't ever have to just sit out there and wait as soon as
• 4:30:02
  you see the link and it's Time, come on in.
• 4:30:05
  All right, appreciate it and tone up.
• 4:30:09
  You want to try talking again? You want to do some more popping
• 4:30:12
  snapping for us? Now, I think I'm going to take,
• 4:30:18
  I'm going to log out because my mic, my mic is not good.
• 4:30:22
  Apparently, this keeps happening.
• 4:30:24
  It's not popping now. Actually funny enough.
• 4:30:28
  Yeah. Maybe it's the signal.
• 4:30:30
  Maybe my signal and the Bluetooth is week probably
• 4:30:36
  There's a rainy way of it. Yeah, it's a connection thing.
• 4:30:39
  Yeah. So obviously obviously about
• 4:30:43
  getting a mic like like how you folks have something like a
• 4:30:45
  standing Mike or something you can get to term for 30 bucks and
• 4:30:49
  Amazon, get you an Audio-Technica.
• 4:30:51
  I think I gave you the link of a long time ago.
• 4:30:54
  It's got an automatic condenser. It'll make your voice sound
• 4:30:57
  normalize when you're speaking. You could whisper into the be
• 4:31:01
  just as loud as a yell, it's really nice.
• 4:31:04
  The one that you sent me and messenger, yeah, I sent you a
• 4:31:08
  link to gives you a list of audio technical devices, a scene
• 4:31:12
  for me to be the best ones. Strong me sound like I'm on
• 4:31:15
  radio. I like Audio-Technica.
• 4:31:18
  I mean they're a good brand. My headphones are
• 4:31:21
  Audio-Technica. There you go.
• 4:31:24
  I have to try Mike. Yeah, I'll look into it, I
• 4:31:31
  appreciate it. Thanks Brett, what you going to
• 4:31:34
  do? After I shut this down because
• 4:31:36
  I've been going on for like four hours and 32 minutes.
• 4:31:39
  If I go any longer, it'll be super hard to get the them.
• 4:31:42
  Bit onto the radio, probably watch a holy for me.
• 4:31:50
  I don't know. I'll probably see ya.
• 4:31:52
  I'll either I'll be listening to something either live or yeah.
• 4:31:57
  Take let's see praises. Sprays on right now.
• 4:32:00
  Yeah, probably joined Praises. Stream.
• 4:32:02
  All right. Ahead over there.
• 4:32:04
  If he's got a link, go to the private chat if you could one.
• 4:32:08
  Second, I'll do that before I leave.
• 4:32:11
  All right sorry sorry sorry about that.
• 4:32:16
  We'll get you a mic. We want to hear what you have to
• 4:32:19
  say there fella. Yeah, yeah, look into the one.
• 4:32:22
  You told me about, let me get milk without drug going.
• 4:32:26
  I'll still be in the room to get that link from you.
• 4:32:30
  Let's jump out. So you guys something, we hope
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