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Ian Furness 10/2 H1: Never say never... Greg Cosell and more! · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: Okay. Friday. Heavy sigh. Wow, history of Kevin Shockey.
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  Speaker 2: Fired him eight hours later. some social media stuff from
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  Speaker 3: 14 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Football Friday. This is just going to be an easy day. Relax,
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  Speaker 2: talk about what's going on with the football games this weekend. Nope,
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  Speaker 2: that's not the case. We've got distractions out at Seahawk Land.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second. And just a
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  Speaker 2: real quick, I'm not going to get into the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing with the Blazers much after this. Just know this,
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  Speaker 2: when you put stuff down, when you tweet, when you Insta,
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  Speaker 2: when you Facebook, whatever, unless you scrub it, it stays
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  Speaker 2: with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And just best to avoid anything that has to
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  Speaker 3: do with.
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  Speaker 2: Gender, race. There's just a lot of times you just
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  Speaker 2: should not say anything. Listen, I don't think any of us,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think one of us, And I'm not condoning
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  Speaker 2: what he said. I'm not condemning what he said. That's,
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  Speaker 2: that's for others to judge.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The, but I don't think any of us has ever probably,
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  Speaker 2: we've all probably posted something later. We're like, I probably
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  Speaker 2: don't want, I shouldn't have that up there.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, or said something or what have you. It just,
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  Speaker 2: it happens. I know this, that the last two employers
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  Speaker 2: I've had besides iHeart, I'm pretty sure have gone through
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  Speaker 2: my social media because one of the things both Fox
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  Speaker 2: and the Kraken asked is what are your social media
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  Speaker 2: accounts when you're filling paperwork out?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: And knowing both of those companies, I'm pretty sure they
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  Speaker 2: went through and scrubbed every, like went through and said, Hmm,
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  Speaker 2: is there anything here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, but it's a good lesson. It's a hard lesson,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a good lesson.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a good lesson for both him and for
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  Speaker 3: the Blazers.
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  Speaker 5: I would say if I'm the Blazers though, I might
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  Speaker 5: have KGW.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Go through every single candidate's social media for the rest
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  Speaker 5: of time.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you've seen it. Oh, but the reporter that broke
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  Speaker 2: the story, he had something about, um, old women in
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  Speaker 2: the voting booth or something like that. Elderly women in
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  Speaker 2: the voting booth. Oh, perfect.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So you could go, people don't care if you rip
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  Speaker 2: on old people, but they do care if it's old,
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  Speaker 2: someone old and a female, because that goes down a
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  Speaker 2: road called misogynist.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Which we dealt with last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just, it's, it's, it's, it's a tough lesson for
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  Speaker 2: the young guy. But at the same time, like I
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  Speaker 2: was just talking to Greg, you know, Greg had a
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  Speaker 2: great point. Like you got to, That generation understands social
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  Speaker 2: media better than you and I do.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: You know what you put up. You can say, I
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  Speaker 3: was 14, 15 years old. I was dumb.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. But now you know that you've had that account
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  Speaker 5: for your whole life, pretty much. Maybe go through it
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  Speaker 5: and make sure, you know what? Did I say some
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  Speaker 5: real dumb stuff when I was younger?
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  Speaker 2: Among the dumb things was not scrubbing it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Pretty much.
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  Speaker 2: You had 14 years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. You don't need to hang on to it. Let
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  Speaker 3: it go.
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  Speaker 2: And do I think the guy should be fine? I just,
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  Speaker 2: that's a blazer decision. They've got so many issues down there.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You guys move on. All right. That's number one. Number two.
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  Speaker 2: So this story that Kosla did for whatever Axios is,
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  Speaker 2: that now the Times has picked up as well. Greg's
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  Speaker 2: going to go check on it when he gets to Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Asked if he'd ever move the team. He says, I
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  Speaker 2: will never say never.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, what?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you missed. You weren't in there. Axios asked
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  Speaker 2: Kosla if he would make a commitment to keeping the
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  Speaker 2: team in Seattle long term. Quote, I will never say never.
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  Speaker 2: Will this team be in Seattle 500 years from now?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But I have no current plans to
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  Speaker 2: change anything about the team, including the coach, president, operation,
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  Speaker 2: or Lumen Field. It all functions well. So the money
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  Speaker 2: quote should be, I have no current plans to change
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  Speaker 2: anything about the team, the coach, the president, operation, or
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  Speaker 2: Lumen Field. It all functions well. But when you are
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  Speaker 2: asked in Seattle, Washington, if you are committed to keeping
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  Speaker 2: the team here long term, And your first words out
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  Speaker 2: of your mouth, according to this story, quote, I will
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  Speaker 2: never say never. That, quite frankly, is one of the
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  Speaker 2: dumbest things I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 3: Recognize your audience.
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  Speaker 2: You have to understand the market you're in. Because as
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  Speaker 2: Greg and I were talking off the air a minute ago,
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  Speaker 2: and this is really important to understand, it's not just
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  Speaker 2: the Sonics who left 18 years ago. When George Argyris
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  Speaker 2: owned the Mariners, he tried numerous times to move them
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  Speaker 2: to Tampa Bay. There was a battle between, is it
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  Speaker 2: the White Sox or the Mariners? Who's moving to Tampa?
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  Speaker 2: This great market, this Tampa. Laughable now, right? How laughable
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  Speaker 2: is that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: But this great market is Tampa because they're playing in
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  Speaker 2: the Kingdome. They're on 3,000 people on a Tuesday against
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  Speaker 2: the Royals. It was awful. So that was going on.
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  Speaker 2: We all know what Ken Baring did. For about 48 hours,
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  Speaker 2: he moved down to Southern California, Long Beach, wherever they
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  Speaker 2: were at outside of community college with the weight set
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  Speaker 2: set up. There's famously, you could Google search it, the
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  Speaker 2: pictures of the moving vans at Northwest College when they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to move the team out of Seattle. And then
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  Speaker 2: we know the Sonics were successful in moving. So all
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  Speaker 2: three long-term, I won't include obviously the Kraken, the Sounders,
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  Speaker 2: the Rainway, the Storm, but those three franchises have all
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  Speaker 2: had a history of trying to move. So understand when
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  Speaker 2: you say that, it becomes a really big deal. I'll
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  Speaker 2: go back, and I said this to Greg on the air,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll say it again. This is why, and I
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  Speaker 2: hate when I have a PR person hovering over me
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  Speaker 2: if I'm doing an interview. I hate it. And it
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  Speaker 2: even happens with the organization I work for. Like, they'll bring, hey,
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  Speaker 2: Lane Lambert's here, and somebody will stand over. They're not
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  Speaker 2: telling me, hey, don't say that, but I don't like it.
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  Speaker 2: When we did the Seahawks forever, when we were the
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  Speaker 2: partner for the Seahawks, I had a relationship with all
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  Speaker 2: of those guys. Like 80% of the locker room I
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  Speaker 2: had a relationship with, I didn't need to have somebody
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  Speaker 2: standing next to me, but I did have somebody standing
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  Speaker 2: next to me. And there were occasions they said, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that was a fair question. I understand that.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't like it. But I understand why they do it.
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald doing an interview with that dipstick Graham Bensinger
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  Speaker 2: without someone there, whether it be Jeff or Dave or
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  Speaker 2: Rich or Chris or whoever from the organization, was a
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  Speaker 2: mistake by Mike McDonald. And I'm sure they've talked about
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  Speaker 2: it since. That ain't going to happen again.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Vince, Coastal doesn't have that. He's not here every day.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a million other businesses. It's just one of
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  Speaker 2: his businesses. But, like... I couldn't fathom him saying that
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  Speaker 2: and having it being printed. If there was someone there
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  Speaker 2: like a Dave Pearson or Jeff Garza, Rich Gonzalez, they're,
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  Speaker 2: they're great. Chris Whitehead, they're great PR guys. They'll go, Whoa,
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  Speaker 2: hang on a second.
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  Speaker 5: Vic.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, did you mean to say that you like, let's,
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  Speaker 2: let's make sure that's clear. Like interrupt like that. Cause
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  Speaker 2: this is a bad thing to say.
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  Speaker 3: It is a really bad thing to say.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's take a step back. Deep breath. Ian deep breath.
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  Speaker 2: All Seattle fans. We also have to understand why the
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  Speaker 2: Sonics left. There were so many things in play. The
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  Speaker 2: renovation of the Seattle Coliseum to Key Arena was ill-fated
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  Speaker 2: from the start. That's not even up for conversation. It's indisputable.
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  Speaker 2: That was an outdated building. The second they opened that
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  Speaker 2: thing up, the second they opened the doors to Key Arena,
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  Speaker 2: it was outdated. Everyone said that. Everyone said that. So
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  Speaker 2: cheap by the accolades, cheap by the city of Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Anderson ran the center at the time. They made
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  Speaker 2: a mistake. Nobody wanted to invest. So key arena has
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  Speaker 2: always been a problem. Howard Schultz was a problem. But
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  Speaker 2: the bigger problem is this, and this is where I
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  Speaker 2: think if you're a Seahawks fan, you can probably take
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  Speaker 2: a deep breath and go, okay, that was a dumb
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  Speaker 2: thing for the new owner to say. I wish he
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have said it. I'm really not too concerned, and
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  Speaker 2: here's why you shouldn't be too concerned. For the Sonics
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  Speaker 2: to move, David Stern had to want them to move.
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  Speaker 2: And had to, it wasn't up for an, yes, it's
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  Speaker 2: up for an owner's vote. David Stern ran the NBA.
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  Speaker 2: Ran the NBA.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they did what he wanted them to do.
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  Speaker 2: He was the dictator. More so than Goodell and others.
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  Speaker 2: But Goodell has some juice. And I just can't fathom
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  Speaker 2: for any fiber of my, first of all, where would
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  Speaker 2: you move him to? That's the biggest question. Right. Like Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 2: moving an NBA team is easy. Moving an NFL team,
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  Speaker 2: not so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, need a little bit bigger of a venue.
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  Speaker 2: So my concern level from them ever moving is about
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  Speaker 2: a 0.5, in my lifetime at least. But I just
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  Speaker 2: wish you wouldn't have said that. I don't think like
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a David Stern. That's mad at Frank chop,
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  Speaker 2: mad at city government, mad at state government, mad at everybody.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have David Stern who has a vendetta and
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  Speaker 2: an ego that wants to move the team. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what had to have happened for Howard to sell to
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  Speaker 2: Bennett for Bennett to move the team. And keep in
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  Speaker 2: mind that, Bennett's intention all along, everyone knew when he
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  Speaker 2: bought the team was to move it because he was
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  Speaker 2: from Oklahoma City and there's a ready-made building.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There's no ready... Unless Coastal says, I like the Bay Area.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm going to build a building in Oakland.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't go great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But that's the only thing he could do. He
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  Speaker 2: had to build his own building somewhere. So bad thing
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  Speaker 2: to say, but probably not a huge cause for concern.
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  Speaker 2: But what is going on with people?
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  Speaker 4: What is it?
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  Speaker 2: Right. X, Twitter, interviews, blah. Can't we just get to
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  Speaker 2: a Friday?
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's booze news today.
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  Speaker 3: It is booze news, and I think we've earned it.
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  Speaker 5: I think the one thing I will say, too, though, is, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was a bad thing for him to say, but
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  Speaker 5: it just brings up the concern that a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people shared when it was an out-of-town buyer owning the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, Ash.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why so many people, including me, really were
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  Speaker 5: hoping that it was going to be a local person
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  Speaker 5: with local ties that would buy the team. And he
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  Speaker 5: said the one thing that is everybody's concern about an
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  Speaker 5: out-of-town buyer.
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  Speaker 2: Just say, no, I have no plans to move.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. We're here.
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  Speaker 4: We're good.
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  Speaker 2: That's just all you have to say.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you have to say.
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  Speaker 3: Not never say never.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing how many really smart, brilliant people, and he's
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  Speaker 2: all those things, say really things, things that are usually
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  Speaker 2: not very intelligent.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what it was. So anyway, Greg's heading over
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  Speaker 2: there to talk. Judarian Price and Julian Love no longer
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  Speaker 2: the big story today at Seahawk. So we'll check in
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  Speaker 2: with Greg later if anything comes out of that. I
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  Speaker 2: kind of doubt they'll have anything to say. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: it's like lockdown mode over there, but Just come on, man.
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  Speaker 3: He better come out and say something.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do it. Don't do it. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: That's fun. Let's talk about the Chargers, shall we? Chargers-Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday at 1 o'clock at Lumen Field. Seahawks trying
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  Speaker 2: to bounce back from a loss. Chargers looking for the
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  Speaker 2: first win. Our guy, the great Greg Cosell, joins us next. Yes, indeed.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Friday. It's a football Friday. Washington State Beef
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  Speaker 2: Commission football Friday. And our guy, Greg Cosell, is here
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  Speaker 2: with us right now to break down the Seahawks and
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  Speaker 2: the winless Chargers. Not of San Diego, but of Los Angeles, California.
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  Speaker 2: He's with us. Hello, Greg. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Ian, what's happening, my man?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, a lot's going on out here in
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  Speaker 2: Seahawk land, sir. You know, it's funny in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: you do this with a few other shows around the
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  Speaker 2: country and national shows. You lose one game, usually there's
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  Speaker 2: panic in the streets. There wasn't really that last week
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  Speaker 2: with the Seahawks losing to the Commanders. I think most
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  Speaker 2: people looked at it and said, well, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: you turn the ball over all those times and throw
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  Speaker 2: a pick six, bad things are probably going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: But before we move on to the Chargers, any impressions
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  Speaker 2: that you were left with with that game at Washington
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  Speaker 2: for Seattle?
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  Speaker 4: It was an odd game. Because the Seahawks defense played well.
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  Speaker 4: They only gave up about 250 yards of total offense.
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  Speaker 4: The commanders could not run the ball at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: obviously they had that 19-yard run, which helped put the
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  Speaker 4: game away. But that's a different part of the game.
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  Speaker 4: That's a whole different feeling. But throughout the game, the
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  Speaker 4: commanders couldn't run the ball. Let's give Mario to credit.
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  Speaker 4: He made a couple of really good throws. The touchdown
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  Speaker 4: to Burks was a really good throw. obviously the touchdown
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  Speaker 4: to McLaurin, you know, those things happen. Job was impressed, man.
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  Speaker 4: And he got beat. Those things do happen. Um, but overall,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think the defense played poorly at all. Um,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought the, uh, I thought Murphy was real
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  Speaker 4: strong inside in the run game. Reed had some dominant
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  Speaker 4: snaps in the run game. Um, Williams, as always, I
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  Speaker 4: can remember one pass rush. He had sack where he
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  Speaker 4: literally just walked Allegretti right back into the pocket. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, as if he was going against a ninth grader, um, But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and offensively, the one thing that needs to
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  Speaker 4: get worked on, I don't want to say fixed because
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  Speaker 4: it's week three, you know. And as you know, and
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  Speaker 4: you sort of started off by saying this, believe me,
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  Speaker 4: I'm in the Philadelphia area, and you would think after
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  Speaker 4: the game on Monday night that the Eagles, you know,
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  Speaker 4: are getting ready to go 2-15. But the one thing
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  Speaker 4: that does need work clearly is the run game. because
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  Speaker 4: obviously Darnold in a close game dropped back, what, 46 times?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's the way they want to play. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 4: other than the Medrano interception return for a touchdown, which
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: he clearly didn't see him, I thought Darnold played really well.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: He threw the ball well. He moves well. He's a
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: big physical athlete with a big arm. You know, I
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: got asked this week on the show, what's wrong with
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold? And I'm like, what? You know, what are
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: we talking about here?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, come on, you know.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Um, so, so really, I think the run game is
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: something that I'm sure they know that I'm not saying
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: anything that is news. Um, and obviously once price fumbled,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I felt like we didn't see him for quite a while.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: And that's, we know the obvious reason for that. Uh, but, um, uh, look,
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: even Halani got a snap as a runner on first down. I,
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: that probably was not in the original game plan. So, uh,
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: you know, other than that, you know, I don't think
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: there's anything to be worried about. Let's put it that way.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: So let me guess my old friend, my own, my
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: old coworker down in Portland, was that Colin Coward asking about, uh,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: what's wrong with Sam Darnold?
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: God, I nailed it. Huh? How about that? Just add,
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: when you work with a guy for five years, you know,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: those things.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I even said in relation to something else, not about Darnold.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: And actually Colin loves Darnold, by the way, as you
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: probably know.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: Um, uh, you know, cause Colin, you know, he's not in, in, uh,
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Southern California anymore. He moved to Chicago, but, uh, he's
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: a big USC guy. So, I mean, he knows Darnold.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: He loves Darnold. Um, But the point I'm making is
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: all this week because of the Drake Mays situation. And
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I had to sort of like let people know that,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: you know, because here's the way people think about things.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: When the team wins, the quarterback's great. And when the
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: team loses, the quarterback stinks. And, you know, with what
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I do, that is so far from the truth. You know,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I watch every play and that's not the way things are.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to sit here and say
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: someone like Drake May is playing great football, but people
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: act like Drake May is playing so bad that he
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: shouldn't even be out there. And that's just not the
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: way it is. You know, when you watch every play,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: you see things so differently.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy to make rash judgments after a couple,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: three games and blanket statements, which I'll probably do here
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: in a second with the Chargers before I get to them.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. Like Justin Herbert. Obviously, Justin Herbert stinks.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: We don't need to say anything else. That's the end
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: of that conversation.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: He's awful, so we'll just move on. No, I was
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: going to bring up just Jadarian Price and when we'll
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: just start going down the road of Jadarian Price and
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks offense against the Chargers. But let me just
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: specifically ask about Jadarian Price. You mentioned he got benched.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt he got benched. He's had two fumbles
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: in two weeks. And so he does get benched, comes back.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Now he's shaken up. This is always, as we have
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: this conversation with Greg, we find out about 40 minutes
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: or so afterwards what the status is for guys. But
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: he was limited. Now he didn't practice. We're trying to
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: figure out if they're just managing it. Who knows? We'll
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: find out later whether he's going to play this week
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: against the Chargers. In the limited carries that you have
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: seen him so far, he's had 119 carries. No, 28
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: carries for 119 yards so far. I believe it is
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: this season. So it's limited sample size. What have you
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: seen from Seattle's rookie running back?
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I think he's looked good. I mean, look, he started
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: the game this week with an 11-yard run outside zone
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: where he had a nice, sharp cutback. I'm sure you
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: remember the play. You know, he's looked good, but obviously
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: you cannot put the ball on the ground. And there's
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: no question that in the NFL, that's going to get
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: you benched if you're a running back. You cannot put
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the ball on the ground. Now, I tried to figure
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: out watching the coaching tape, what caused that fumble? And
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: quite frankly, I couldn't tell, to be honest with you,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: because it just seemed, you know, I just couldn't get
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: a feel for what happened, but the bottom line is
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: you can't do that. So, uh, he's going to get
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: more chances. They're, they're not going to, you know, put
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: them on the bench and leave them there. And if
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: he's injured, maybe he doesn't play this week. We don't
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: know that. As you said, until the injury report comes
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: out and the designations do come out, but he's going
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: to get another chance. He was a first round pick.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: They obviously liked him. He's got a lot of skills.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: He's a good back. Um, But now it's the transition
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: to the NFL. You've got to hold on to the football.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: There's nothing more to be said about those kinds of
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: things other than you've got to hold on to the ball.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: It's as simple as that.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you know Ross Tucker. Ross comes on
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: with us on Thursdays, and we were talking about that
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: with him yesterday, and he was kind of saying the
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: same thing. He said the problem now is that you
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: get that reputation every– you know, every team makes a
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: concerted effort to go after the ball more. You got
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to earn the trust back of your coach and your teammates.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And it's a trust thing and he'll get it back.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And like you say, he's too talented to keep them
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: on the bench. They don't have other options. Charbonnet is
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: probably two weeks away still from coming back. So they're
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: going to have to play them. And, you know, guys,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: you know, the hard thing for him is everyone's looking
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: around here going, well, it's price and they could have
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: kept Walker and look what Walker's doing in Kansas city
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's funny you say that because they
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: knew Charbonnet was going to be back probably after four
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: weeks of this season. and they still drafted Price. So
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: they're telling you that Charbonnet is not a feature back.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: We don't have to guess that, Ian. They told you that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: So there's no real interpretation here. But the issue when
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: young backs fumble, and I learned this from my good
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: buddy Merrill Hodge, and I love the way he said it,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: what happens is you become a ball carrier rather than
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: a runner. And I think people can make that distinction.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: You start to worry about holding onto the ball, whether
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: that rather than letting your instincts take over as a runner.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: And then you have to work yourself through that, and
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: the only way to work yourself through that is to
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: get the ball. But then the coaches, and as you said,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: you nailed it, then your coaches and teammates have to
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: have trust in you that you can do the job.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell joining us. Greg, we'll get to the Chargers offense,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: because that's what everybody's talking about is the Chargers offense.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, Justin Herbert, all that. Let's just stay with
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: the Seattle offense, whether it's Price or it's Darnold, whoever
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: it is. Against a Chargers defense, I find it interesting.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: As much criticism as the Chargers offense is getting in
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the 0-3 start, I'm looking through here. The defense is
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: giving up 25 points a game. None of their numbers
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: look great. Khalil Mack does have a couple sacks. He's
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: still doing his thing. And Genesis Smith has a couple picks.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: But give us a feel for what we're going to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: see with that Chargers defense coming up on Sunday.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, new coordinator. Jesse Minter's gone. Jesse Minter, one of
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: the smartest young defensive minds in the game. New coordinator
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: who's trying to do a lot of the same things
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: But then, you know, what you just don't know, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I certainly can't speak to this in any great detail,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: and no one can because we're not in their meetings,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: but then what you get is the specific situation play calls.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: That's what you get. In other words, if you're staying
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: with the same methodology and the same general concepts in
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: your defense, which I believe they are, then it comes
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: down to the specific play calls in given games, and
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: that's where the difference lies. And, you know, obviously I
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: don't know that difference. It's not as if I'm sitting
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: and charting and going back to last year and charting
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: every Jesse Minter play call and then every play call
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: by the new coordinator. Um, but essentially if you want
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: to talk about them a little more generally, they play
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: a ton of big nickel because Derwin James is one
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: of those unique athletes, you know, a lot like Emmett
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: Worry when Emmett Worry is healthy. Um, so Derwin James
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: can pretty much do anything. Um, They kind of play
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: three corners because what they do is they play still
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: on the outside. He's a good player, Tarheap, still on
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: the outside in their big nickel. And if they play
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: base 5-2, still plays on the outside. If they were
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: to go to conventional nickel or dime, then still moves
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: inside in the slot where he's a pretty good blitzer,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: by the way. That's something to keep in mind. And
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: they'll be aware of that. But they've got good players.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: You know, again, the numbers after three weeks, I don't
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: really put a ton of stock in the numbers necessarily.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: They played pretty well last week against the Bills. Obviously,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: they struggled later in the game with the run game
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: by the Bills. And the Bills have one of the
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: most diverse multiple run games in the league. They do
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: some really interesting things. so it's not surprising that they
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: struggled with that. And obviously James Cook is a phenomenal back,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: certainly a top three, four back in the league. But
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: that's kind of what they do. They still have Mack.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: They have Tui Palatu, who's a really interesting player because
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: he lines up in multiple positions and allows them to
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: be kind of diverse with their front alignments. Henley is a–
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: you're probably familiar with him. Oh, yeah.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Go Cougs. Let's go, huh? Henley, let's go.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: He's a really– He's a very good football player. So,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: you know, they've got good players. You know, they kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: of rotate a lot in the secondary. They play, you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: a number of safeties. Genesis Smith is a rookie. He's
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: really a pass defender, not a run player. He's a
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: deep path player. You know, he had two picks last
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: week against Josh Allen. So, you know, they play a
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: lot of people on the back end, but they have
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: good people on defense too.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Great players are sometimes not defendable. Michael Jordan was like
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that in basketball. You know, there's been guys over the
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: years that, you know, I mean, when Jamar Chase has
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: a great quarterback or a good quarterback, he's that way. Jefferson,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: guys like that. Jackson Smith and Jigba, 27 catches through
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: three games. I'm assuming that in the first three, teams
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: have tried everything against them, whether it's cloud coverage or
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: whatever it might be, right? I mean, this guy just
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: keeps getting open, so that'll be a challenge for the Chargers.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting you say that because people just
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: automatically assume, well, double team them, do this, do that. But,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: you know, offenses know that too. And, you know, you
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: can prevent that from happening by what you do with
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: your formations, your use of motion. You know, otherwise, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: a team could theoretically double a guy every snap and
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: they don't because it impacts everybody else. I mean, that's
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: the thing. You know, I've heard defensive coaches talk about
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: this all the time. Could you theoretically double a wide
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: receiver on every play? I don't know. I don't think
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: you can. And I don't think coaches think you can either.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: But there's an impact on the rest of your defense.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Because now you're asking guys, whether it's man or zone,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: to do things that they're not necessarily accustomed to doing
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: that you have to practice. Because then there's different leverages.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: There's different alignments. There's different techniques. There's so many things
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: that go into that. We're not 14 years old playing
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: in the schoolyard. You know, so you can't just automatically say, well,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: let's double him. You know, it's not quite as simple
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: as that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Greg Cosell joining us by the Anne McQueen Casino. All right.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Other side of the ball, we joked about Justin Herbert.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: You know, he's awful now. All of a sudden, he's
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: not a good quarterback. Justin Herbert, Amari and Hampton, Mike McDaniel,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that Chargers offense against the Seahawks, Mike McDonald-led defense.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: I'm going to give you.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Opinion here.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Okay. That's again, you know, I do this all the time.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I could be a hundred percent wrong. And I'm going
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: to start by saying that, that I could be a
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: hundred percent wrong, but I've been giving this a lot
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: of thought watching Justin Herbert through the first three weeks.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: And by the way, I had a very good friend
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: who was on the staff there. And he's told me
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: that Justin Herbert is everything you want in a quarterback.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: And I think most people in the league believe that.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: you know, obviously the playoff stuff and, you know, that's
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: media talk and that's fine. I mean, you can't argue
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: with results, so it's an easy thing to say, you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Know, but.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: In watching Justin Herbert for three weeks and in knowing
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: what I know about Mike McDaniel, who in my career
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I've had the opportunity to spend some time with, I
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: just wonder if Mike McDaniel's offense and Justin Herbert's overall
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: skill set don't mesh. Because I look at Herbert Herbert's
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: not twitchy and sudden. Herbert is one of those big, physical,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: deep drop, drive the ball down the field. I almost
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: think of Justin Herbert in a Mike Martz, North Turner,
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: you know, the Don Correale type offense. That's the way
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I think of him now. And McDaniel is much more
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: because his background is Kyle Shanahan. That's how he got
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: started in the league. you know, quarterbacks like Garoppolo, Purdy, Tua,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: you know, those sort of quick twitchy guys that get
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: the ball out. And like I said, I could be
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: dead wrong. It's just, this is an opinion, not, hey,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I know what I'm talking about. Maybe I don't, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I'm just giving you my thoughts. The other thing is
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: they have Omari and Hampton, who is not at all,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: let's say, like Devon Achain, where he came from, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: McDaniel last year, last number of years in Miami.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: And Marion Hampton is a downhill, grinding, tough, physical runner
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: who I like a lot. The interior of their O-line
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: right now is not very good. That's a weakness in
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: their game. And I think it's not a mesh right now.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: It's not working very well. And again, now they're going
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: to play Seattle with a phenomenal interior, really an interior four,
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: now that Raleigh Mills is getting meaningful snaps.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And again, it's the NFL, Ian. You know this.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: You and I have been doing this a long time.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: It's almost impossible to predict these things. I mean, who's
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: to say Hampton doesn't break one for 40 yards this week?
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: You know, we don't know that. But when you just
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: look at what the tape shows up to this point,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: you're looking at an interior O-line for the Chargers that
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: includes a rookie center in Jake Slaughter. Trevor Penning last
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: week played left guard after they rotated at left guard
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: for the first two weeks. And now you think this
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: does not look like a good matchup. But, you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: we've seen stranger things. You never know. I'm just telling
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: you what the tape shows up to this point.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned Riley Mills just briefly. I had
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Grace Abel, did an interview with Grace Abel. We do
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: our Wednesday shows, Greg, over at Seahawks Facility. So we
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: get guys coming to the room. We do some one-on-ones.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: And I had Grace Abel. We were talking about walkthroughs.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I think you'll get a kick out of this. How
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: about like walkthroughs? And the famous story back, you probably
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: heard this, when Earl Thomas, his walkthroughs back in the heyday,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Earl never walked. He was 1,000 miles an hour. And
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Cliff Averill and Mike Bennett got into it once because
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: he started chirping them saying, they're like, little fella, hey,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: this is a walkthrough. You know, like take it easy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Riley Mills is that guy. Grace Abel said Riley Mills'
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: motor is 24-7. He's always going. He's like just Joe
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Tryhard guy. But it translates to the field. You like
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: what you've seen from Riley Mills.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I like a lot, and I really liked his tape.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: His next to last year at Notre Dame, I actually
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: did him that summer, and I loved him. And then,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: of course, I guess he got hurt after seven or eight,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: whatever it was. And then he came back from the
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: ACL and played late last year, but this year he's
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: clearly part of the rotation. I like him a lot.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: They've got a four-man D-tackle rotation now because he does
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: play enough snaps that they're meaningful. It's not as if
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: he's out there for three or four snaps. I think
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: he's been playing 15, 16, 17 snaps. So they've got
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: a really good de-tackle rotation. I'm always blown away watching Murphy,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Byron Murphy, when he does that thing where he puts
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: his knee on the ground to take on the double teams.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: It's pretty phenomenal. You know, if I tried that, I'd
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: probably be in a wheelchair in five minutes. But, you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: he is so strong. And Leonard Williams is just a really, really,
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: you know, Leonard Williams, and not that what I think
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: matters in Leonard Williams' world or in anybody's world of
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: these players, But, you know, Leonard Williams is one of
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: those guys. He's not going to be a Hall of Famer,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: but he's going to play in the league for 12, 13,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: maybe 14 years. And he's just one of those guys
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: that's just a really, really good player.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Players and coaches for years and years and years, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: knowing the toll, the physical and mental toll that it
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: takes to play this game at a high level year
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: in and year out, just from an observer standpoint, guys
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: like Leonard Williams, I just think are really special.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. Let me wrap it up with this.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Julian Love is expected to play. We'll find out definitively
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: here in about 30 or 40 minutes, but Julian Love
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: expected to play.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: That's a big deal.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And that's why I wanted to ask you like how,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: how much do they miss him?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying the Berks touchdown wouldn't have happened. We
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: don't know that, but obviously that was Finley who, you know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: who got there maybe a step late, maybe, maybe love
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: sees it, you know, a beat sooner and it's not
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: a touchdown. So you don't know the answer to that,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: you know, and I don't want to put it all
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: on Finley because you.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Know, that would be wrong. Uh, but, uh, You know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: love is love.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I remember speaking to a good
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: friend of mine who's a DB coach in the league.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: And he said that when they did that, when Love
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: was a free agent before he signed with Seattle and
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: he was doing all his work on the free agent safeties,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: he just thought Love was clearly the best free agent
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: safety and could envision him basically in any defense. So,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is a really good football player. And
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I imagine, again, I don't know this because I'm not
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: there during the week during game planning, but I imagine
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: he's incredibly smart and savvy. And you miss a guy
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: like that, not just because of potential plays, but just
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the way he probably deals with the whole defense.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: What you said about Leonard Williams strikes me because I
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: think you could say that about Julian Love as well, right?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I've had that conversation with Hugh before, and it's like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: you know what? Like you've said, Julian Love, what does
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: he do great? Well, I don't know if he does
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: anything like, you know, like Hall of Fame great, but
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: he does everything really well. And I think at that position,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that's what you want is a guy that does everything
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: really well and just sees the game and has a
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: feel for the game.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: And those guys are so important to the defense on
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: the back end. And of course they play a ton
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: of too high safety shell. They're not a single high
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: defense very often. So, you know, you need to see
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: the game and, and, you know, sometimes, like I said,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not knocking Finley or even Thomas, you know, on
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: the back end. Obviously, Thomas wasn't meant to be a
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: starter either. But, you know, sometimes a guy just sees it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: And in a game of milliseconds, that's a big deal.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: That's a big, big deal. So, you know, but Love
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: is a great football player. And like you nailed, he's
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: not going to be a Hall of Famer. But, you know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: barring any injury. God willing, he's going to be another
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: guy that plays 12, 13 years and just be a really,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: really good player.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So to wrap it up, what Greg Cosell says and
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: what the tape is telling you is that if you
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: give Mike McDonald some really solid, good football players that
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: see and feel the game really well and have a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: good feel for it, and you give that to a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald, he might be able to do something with it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, win a Super Bowl or something?
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they might. You know, we'll see what happens. They
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: might have a chance to win a Super Bowl.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: But, you know, it's so, yeah, those are the things
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: you just don't know as far as, you know, players,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: because those are and I hate to use this word,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: you know, because everything eventually shows up on tape. But,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: you know, intangibles, people like to use that word. You know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure exactly what that means. I mean, we
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: all do to some extent. It's just like when people
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: say instincts, you know, it's an easy word to throw
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: out there.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: But, you know, but love, you nailed it. Love sees
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: the game exactly the right way.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so does his head coach. So we'll see.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: We're hoping for a bounce back up here this week
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: against the Chargers. Next week, there's a little team called
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: the 49ers rolling in, Greg, next Friday. You might have
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: heard of them. They're pretty good.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: We're talking about maybe doing that as a full segment
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in our matchup show, depending on what happens this Sunday,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: because something tells me that could be a big game
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: on the NFL schedule.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: What do you think? You know what? I'll leave it
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to you to tell me. I think so.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know. 49ers, Seahawks. I'm looking back over the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: last 20 years. It feels like every one of those
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: games has been a big game. So we'll get to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: that next week. In the meantime, matchup show this week
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: on ESPN, NFL Network. Go search for it. Tape it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: if it's too early in the morning for you. But
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: you'll see Greg. He's got the great looking. I like
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the royal blue suit kind of going on today. That's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: a good look, my friend.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Ashley liked it too i feel pretty good about this
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: yeah well.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: If ashley likes it she liked it too yeah ashley
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: liked it so that's that she got she gave the
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: seal of approval there so she's two.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Thumbs up i don't want to say anything out of
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: school but my guess is she probably has better taste
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: than you.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Do well yeah because i i like you i'm sure
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: this is how it works for espn i i don't
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: dress myself we have a stylist for the kraken tv
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: network so we we i let darcy tell me what
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: to wear so yeah yeah Yeah. So lucky.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Otherwise it would be an absolute disaster. And I'd probably
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: look like I do right now with a hoodie on
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and a baseball hat. So that's how it works.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Well, unfortunately I can't wear that when I'm shooting the
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: matchup show.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. We'll talk to you next week.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Greg.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: All right. Thanks, Ian.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Great.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Go sell. Great. As always, we'll come back, take a break.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: We also keep an eye on what the Seahawks injury
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: report looks like. Daniel Neal, one o'clock hour, Rob rang
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: at two factor fiction, two 35 and booze news as well.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: All coming up by nine, 3.3 KJFM. Seahawks nonsense. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: we're saying never.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Just say, we're good.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: We're good. We like Seattle.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: We like it here. We're learning a lot. Everyone's great.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: All good. Craig Bell's over there. We'll see everything. I'd
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: be stunned if anything comes out of the Virginia Mason
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Athletic Center today outside of some consternation internally going, oh, man,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: why did he say that?
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: That'll be it.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: That'll be it.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. I almost had to. Deep breath because I
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: almost had to burp.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Great lunch today.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: What'd you have?
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: All of it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I've found this, thanks to Taco Time, first of all.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you about them in a second. I've found
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: that with the new setup, our new studios at an
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: unknown location for the Kraken Hockey Network, I should be
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: losing weight because there's no place to eat. There's no
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: place to eat. Either bringing it in. We have a
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: very big, great, beautiful studios. They look nice and all that. Um,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: but it's a challenging, so it's good. Like me missing
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: a meal here. There's good. I had a protein drink
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: driving in today and I was like, damn, I'm hungry. Well,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: no more.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Because our good friends at taco time Northwest, they want
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: to tell you and for us to tell you about
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the $ 5 soft taco event. So what did they do?
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: They dropped off lunch. What did you have?
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: I had some chips and salsa. I would have had,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: it's not a taco time issue because I love taco time,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: but I have to order it special because I.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Can't have the sour cream on there.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Gotcha. Yes, gotcha. So that's why.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: So I just went chips and salsa because I was like, well,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I can't not have that.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and how was that?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Delicious.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I could go eat the salsa by the spoonful.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: You could just drink it. Oh my God, it's so good. Well, listen,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: right now, taco time, actually not right now, starting tomorrow,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: so October 3rd through the 6th, any taco time soft taco,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: $ 5 each, four days only, October 3rd through the 6th.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: So you can enjoy the soft tacos, share your favorites,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: invite your friends to come over, have a few tacos, right?
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: $ 5 each. Feed a family with that. $ 5 each all day, Saturday,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: October 3rd through Tuesday, October 6th. No quantity limits.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, sign me up.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Every soft taco is included. Beef, chicken, pinto bean, fish, veggie, natural,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: and chicken Caesar are all the same $ 5 price. You
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: can order by just going to a Taco Time Northwest restaurant.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Go to a drive-thru or through the Taco Time Northwest
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: app or the website. So how about that? Tomorrow through
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the 6th. Oh, my gosh. Saturday through Tuesday.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: We've got a softball tournament tomorrow. I know what I'm getting.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: You're getting tacos in the warm special. That's fine, right? Yep.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I am almost exclusively natural beef soft taco. Period.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Today I tried the chicken Caesar. Sensational.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I think that's what Jess had too. It looked really good.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Uh, I also just had a basic beef soft taco.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Yum.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I split one of them, so I didn't eat two,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: but it was, it was sensational. Absolutely awesome.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: When taco time drops a bunch of food off, if
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: you want to eat more than one, eat more than one.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: You don't need to.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And for $ 5 each, you can't go wrong.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: You know, I, I just, those guys are awesome out
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: there at taco time.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Uh, Robbie Tonkin and all those, I just, I love
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: those guys. And I think that Cool Northwest Company.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Big supporters of the station.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Big supporters of the station. Robbie Tonkin's a really good dude.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: One of the owners of Taco Time. Got to know
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: him a little bit. I know he's a big P1
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: of the radio station. Maybe not my show. I think
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: he loves Softie more than most. But no, listen, Taco
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Time's great. That Taco Time down in Elliott's been there
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: since I was a kid.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: And we used to live close by here, you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: growing up. And that was like the biggest treat. Now,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I don't have to treat myself. I just go. But
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: $ 5 taco, again, what you need to know, $ 5 each,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: October 3rd through the 6th. It applies to individual soft tacos.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: This isn't going to the combo prices, combo meals. Just
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: get your taco and away you go.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yum.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: $ 5 each. Can't go wrong. I know this. Like tomorrow,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: we got a cracking game again. Tomorrow?
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: That will be October 3rd. And because of the challenges
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: of filling and stuffing my fat face on my way home,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: the Maple Valley Taco Time will be getting a visit
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: from me tomorrow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yes. Don't forget the tots.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I will not. I will not do that. So there
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: you go. Find out more. Taco Time. Big thanks to
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: those guys as well. We'll come back. Danny O'Neill next.