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Autopen, Shmautopen · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews. You need to start
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Speaker 1: your day and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning.
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Speaker 2: Show Tuesday morning, second day of December. I'm Wes. Thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me. Inchine our way towards Christmas, I mean
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Speaker 2: little over three weeks away. It's coming up quickly. It's happening.
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Speaker 2: Brace yourself getting ready for the Nutcracker coming up on
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Speaker 2: December thirteenth and fourteenth. It is a Saturday and Sunday run.
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Speaker 2: We got a couple other shows, but those aren't open
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Speaker 2: to the public if you would like to join us
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Speaker 2: for the annual tradition that is the Nutcracker. My seventh
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Speaker 2: time in the role of Mother Ginger. Looking forward to
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Speaker 2: doing that again. We've been working hard, the girls and
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Speaker 2: I have been working hard. I have seven Polishchanel's this
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Speaker 2: year and we have been working or the rest of
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Speaker 2: the cast as well. But I don't have to really
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Speaker 2: do much with them. I mean there's a couple of
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Speaker 2: other parts where I have to interact with them, but
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Speaker 2: overall for the show, the main part I have to
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Speaker 2: focus on, you know, my time on stage and excited
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Speaker 2: to be back in the role. Excited to be back
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Speaker 2: at the River Center. And I talked to someone over
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Speaker 2: the weekend that was telling me that they had looked
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Speaker 2: at ticket prices and that they were crazy expensive. And
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Speaker 2: I said, where did you look? And they said, well,
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Speaker 2: I just you know, googled it. I said, well, there
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Speaker 2: you go. That's the problem. Happens to a lot of
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Speaker 2: people and they think, wow, this is an expensive show.
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Speaker 2: What happens is people buy the tickets and then resell them,
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Speaker 2: or they just put them up where you can buy
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Speaker 2: them on their website at a marked up price. And
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Speaker 2: then I guess they buy the tickets and transfer them
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Speaker 2: to you. I guess that's probably how it works. There
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Speaker 2: are some tickets available. The tickets are not insanely priced.
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Speaker 2: You can get very affordable tickets from one of three places.
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Speaker 2: You can get them at the River Center box office
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Speaker 2: if you happen to be in the area and you
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Speaker 2: want to go there. You can get them at Rivercenter
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Speaker 2: dot org their website. And you can get them at
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Speaker 2: through the Columbus Ballet dot org, so Rivercenter dot org,
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Speaker 2: the Columbus Ballet dot org, or at the actual box office.
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Speaker 2: Any of those will get you the correctly priced tickets
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Speaker 2: for the show and you can be part of the
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Speaker 2: annual tradition. I mean, it's a great early Christmas gift
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Speaker 2: for someone in your life. You get them some tickets,
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Speaker 2: you take them to the show, you have a good time.
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Speaker 2: I know, guys, maybe you're not thinking about's the ballet.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: You could buy tickets for your spouse or significant other
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Speaker 2: and take them and say, you know what, I'm going
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Speaker 2: to suck it up. We're going to do the ballet
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Speaker 2: and we're going to have a good time. It may
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Speaker 2: not be your thing, I understand, but I promise you
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Speaker 2: we'll put on a good show for you. At the
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Speaker 2: very least. You point down and go, hey, I listen
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Speaker 2: to that guy every day on his podcast, all of
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Speaker 2: his podcasts, and I listened to them over and over again.
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Speaker 2: And there he is down there in a big giant dress,
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Speaker 2: you know, dancing around on stage in stilts. So you
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Speaker 2: can do that. I'll even come out after the show
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Speaker 2: and say hi. That's what was part of the process.
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Speaker 2: You come out after the show and you say hi,
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Speaker 2: and I'm out of the dress, but I'm still on
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Speaker 2: the stilts. Typically and we'll almost certainly be doing that
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Speaker 2: again this year. So yeah, By all means say, Hi,
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Speaker 2: please stick around after the show for that. Or maybe
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Speaker 2: you've got a you know, a child in your life
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Speaker 2: that likes the ballet and your spouse and child can
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Speaker 2: go to the show. Or you can have a daddy
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Speaker 2: daughter experience. I've got friends who've done that as well.
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Speaker 2: All of that can be part of your tradition. That
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Speaker 2: is the Nutcracker for Christmas, presented by the Columbus Ballet.
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Speaker 2: If you don't live in the Columbus Georgia area, then
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Speaker 2: there's probably a ballet near you. I would encourage you
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Speaker 2: to check that out. I won't be in that one.
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Speaker 2: I haven't branched out in that capacity just yet. It
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Speaker 2: actually almost happened a couple of years ago. I thought
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Speaker 2: I was gonna be in South Florida for doing the Nutcracker,
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Speaker 2: Let's jump into the topic for today, because I want
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Speaker 2: to talk about this autopen thing. And I understand that
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Speaker 2: we have as a nation right now. I guess we've
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Speaker 2: got a very divided opinion on where things are with this,
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Speaker 2: and I know the Trump administration is saying, look, an
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Speaker 2: auto pen cannot be considered a valid signature when it
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Speaker 2: comes to executive orders, when it comes to pardons. This
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Speaker 2: has been a question that has been had for a while.
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Speaker 2: We've moved a little bit closer to some action taking
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Speaker 2: place on it. I'm no legal expert. I am not
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Speaker 2: a lawyer. I have zero time in law school. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to weigh in on the legalities of it
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Speaker 2: because I don't know. I don't know exactly how all
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Speaker 2: this plays out. My concerns that we had basically a
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Speaker 2: president who was asleep at the wheel, with people that
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Speaker 2: were behind the scenes taking advantage of him, and certainly
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Speaker 2: it felt to me like there was a lot of
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Speaker 2: you know, senior elder abuse, those sorts of things taking place.
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Speaker 2: And you know, we heard from Hunter Biden, the former
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Speaker 2: president's son, saying that they were just you know, shoving
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Speaker 2: ambient in there in his dad's mouth to subdue him,
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Speaker 2: and that that was why he failed so badly at
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Speaker 2: the debate, was because they had been forcing ambient in him.
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Speaker 2: I don't know why they would have a man taking
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Speaker 2: in his eighties taking ambient. That doesn't make any sense
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Speaker 2: to me. But that's from him. That's his, you know,
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Speaker 2: account of what was taking place. So it sounds like
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Speaker 2: all of the classic signs of elder abuse. I don't
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Speaker 2: hear anyone talking about that. I've been bringing it up
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Speaker 2: since the ambient thing came along. We suspected maybe there
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Speaker 2: was something going on behind the scenes, but the ambient thing,
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Speaker 2: if they're drug the man they were, as his son said, Now, granted,
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe an unreliable narrator. I don't know, but
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Speaker 2: it's worth at least noting that there's been that accusation
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Speaker 2: and the possibility of that being a thing. So all
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Speaker 2: I can tell you with any sort of certainty here
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Speaker 2: is that the president is challenging the former president's autopen.
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Speaker 2: Now should an autopen? Like, why is that a thing? Well,
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Speaker 2: it makes sense that it would be a thing when
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Speaker 2: you consider the fact that in some cases, you know,
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Speaker 2: a president might have to sign one thousand, ten thousand
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Speaker 2: whatever of something, pardons being one of those things. The
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Speaker 2: problem that comes in, though, is that technically, when they're
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Speaker 2: signing those documents, they're signing them as I'm present, I
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Speaker 2: certify this, I am here, and this is a document
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Speaker 2: that I am signing. Now is there an issue with
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Speaker 2: some sort of an autopen taking care of that when
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Speaker 2: it's something that's done, you know, times a thousand. I
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Speaker 2: don't necessarily have a problem with that. I've seen people
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Speaker 2: yesterday commenting on, well, Trump's got to be using an autopen.
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Speaker 2: They all use an autopen now. Maybe, but maybe they
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be. First of all, if you're going to sit
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Speaker 2: down and you're planning to pardon ten thousand people preemptively
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Speaker 2: that haven't been charged with anything, maybe that's a bit much.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe there should be the limitations of, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're only capable of pardoning enough people that you can,
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Speaker 2: you know, handle with the handcramps. I mean, I'm just
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Speaker 2: lobbing that out. This is not something I've given a
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Speaker 2: lot of thought to, but maybe that's a real thing.
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Speaker 2: Maybe we should think about the fact that the president
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Speaker 2: shouldn't be just pardoning so many people ahead of time
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Speaker 2: that haven't been charged with anything, but there's a possibility
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Speaker 2: that they will. Some of the documents that I guess
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Speaker 2: are being really challenged here in this are ones where
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Speaker 2: we knew Joe Biden to have been either not at
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Speaker 2: the White House or even out of the country. So
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Speaker 2: that to me seems like it should be a problem. Now,
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Speaker 2: I know this is going to go through courts, and
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Speaker 2: we're going to go through courts that are going to
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Speaker 2: have judges that have been appointed strategically by various donors
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Speaker 2: and people on the left. George Soros has been very
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Speaker 2: good at putting Whenever we hear a story and someone
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Speaker 2: says a judge stepped in and prevented something that Republicans
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Speaker 2: or that Donald Trump is trying to do, it's almost
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Speaker 2: always there's George Soros's fingerprints on whatever got that judge
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Speaker 2: in place. Happens A lot just happens a lot. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I can't tell you the exact number of times, but
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Speaker 2: it's a lot or someone like him, right, it's one
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Speaker 2: of the two. It's him, or it's someone who has
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Speaker 2: specifically done everything they can financially with all resources to
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Speaker 2: put them in a position where that they can cause
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Speaker 2: problems for a Republican administration that is now a strateag
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Speaker 2: It's just all about that type of lawfare. The other
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Speaker 2: type of lawfare, of course, is there as well. But
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Speaker 2: just looking at this from the perspective of is this
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Speaker 2: going to see its day in court? It might? I
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Speaker 2: think it should. Is it going to be immediately shot
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Speaker 2: down by judges that will probably lead to some of
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Speaker 2: these court cases? Is it going to make it to
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court? Maybe it should. I think we need
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Speaker 2: some sort of a definition for what qualifies as a
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Speaker 2: valid reason for using an auto pen. Don't you think
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Speaker 2: it shouldn't we have that? Isn't isn't that a valid
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Speaker 2: thing to question? Because God forbid, we have another president
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Speaker 2: at some point that is not capable of the country,
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Speaker 2: that's not capable of being involved in decision making, that's
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Speaker 2: not capable of being there and being present. Keep in mind,
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Speaker 2: they tried their best when they replaced him to put
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Speaker 2: someone else in the White House who was going to
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Speaker 2: be just as incompetent, now not dealing with cognition problems,
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Speaker 2: but incompetent, incapable of doing the job. I do not
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Speaker 2: believe Kamala Harris was capable, and I think that's why
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Speaker 2: she was the VP pig because I think the plan
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Speaker 2: all along was people will start to like her. As
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Speaker 2: a country, we're going to be so obsessed with race
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Speaker 2: that they're going to say, well, she'll be the next president,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to be stuck into this thing we
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Speaker 2: want a black woman to be president. We've had a
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Speaker 2: black man, both of them mixed race. By the way,
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Speaker 2: I don't know why we don't do that and where
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Speaker 2: we stick with that old Civil war drop a black
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Speaker 2: blood thing we seem to still do for some reason,
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Speaker 2: which is crazy. It's and I don't hear calls from
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Speaker 2: the left to change that. It's calls on the right
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Speaker 2: like people saying, wait a minute, why are we still
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Speaker 2: doing that? A little bit like Republicans with slavery. Isn't
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Speaker 2: it like what can't we stop this? But anyway, so
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Speaker 2: I believe that was the plan, and I think if
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Speaker 2: they're gonna try, if she's gonna try again to run
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Speaker 2: for president, I don't think she'll get She couldn't get
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Speaker 2: nominated before. They had to bypass the nomination process just
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Speaker 2: to get her on the ticket. So if it's possible
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Speaker 2: that they may try to focus on someone who is incompetent,
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Speaker 2: and hey, Republicans could do the same thing. Don't think
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Speaker 2: it's impossible for both sides to say, we want someone
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Speaker 2: in the White House who's not capable of saying no
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Speaker 2: to us, and you know that would just let us
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Speaker 2: do whatever we want and then we're just going to
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Speaker 2: run the country behind the scenes. We're gonna autopen everything.
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Speaker 2: They're not even gonna know what they're signing. We're just
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Speaker 2: going to sedate them or whatever. It's horrible, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: It's disgusting that that seems to have been what was
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Speaker 2: going on, and the fact that there were other people
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Speaker 2: running meetings and many times he wasn't there. If he's
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Speaker 2: not there signing the documents, or the document's valid, that's
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Speaker 2: the question that Trump administration is asking. That's the question
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Speaker 2: that Trump is asking. Isn't it a fair question? It's
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Speaker 2: a valid question. Should we not be looking at whether
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Speaker 2: it's a valid signature? If he didn't even know what
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Speaker 2: was being done? Now are they going to try to
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Speaker 2: say he knew? But shouldn't he have at least been present?
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Speaker 2: And if he wasn't present, is it possible that some
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Speaker 2: of those things were signed without him knowing it. There
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Speaker 2: is a story where the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, said,
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Speaker 2: when he finally got time with Biden one on one,
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Speaker 2: he talked to him about things that had been signed
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Speaker 2: that affected his, uh, the people that he represented in Louisiana,
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Speaker 2: and he said, why did you sign this? And he said,
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Speaker 2: I didn't sign that. They told me I was signing
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Speaker 2: something else. So that gives you an idea. And that
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Speaker 2: was said before all of the zambient talk. Gives you
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Speaker 2: an idea of maybe what was going on behind the scenes.
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Speaker 2: Constituents is the word that it just wouldn't come with
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Speaker 2: his people, His constituents. They're people, you know, they are
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Speaker 2: constituents are people. So that's the word I was going for.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's the reason. And I think
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Speaker 2: we're you know, people right now are saying, well, what
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Speaker 2: is Trump using it? Is he using an auto pen?
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he is. I think it's valid
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Speaker 2: in some circumstances, but he should be present, he should
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Speaker 2: be in the building when it's being signed. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard him say that he isn't you would
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Speaker 2: think that maybe he's not doing it at all. He
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Speaker 2: likes the big production and the theatricality of signing things
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Speaker 2: and showing it to everybody, but that's different. Those are
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Speaker 2: for the big ones. But I think there's a place
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Speaker 2: for it. I certainly think there's a place for it.
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Speaker 2: I just don't think it's okay unless we know for
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Speaker 2: More West Carol Morning Show right after the break. So
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Speaker 2: let's talk about Batman. I mean, I could do it
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Speaker 2: for a whole show or a couple of shows, but
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Speaker 2: for the purposes of today's show, we're just going to
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Speaker 2: talk about something called the Batman effect. According to a
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Speaker 2: new study, the appearance alone of Batman makes people nicer.
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Speaker 2: During the study, which was conducted on a subway for text,
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Speaker 2: writers were almost twice as likely to give up their
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Speaker 2: seat to a pregnant woman when there was someone dressed
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Speaker 2: as Batman on the train with them. Stay with me.
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Speaker 2: The researchers concluded that it wasn't specifically the site of
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Speaker 2: a superhero that inspired them to be better people. Instead,
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Speaker 2: it was just having something or someone unusual nearby that
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Speaker 2: snapped them out of their routine. Writers were jolted a bit,
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Speaker 2: which caused them to be more aware, and that led
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Speaker 2: them to realizing that they could be doing something to
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Speaker 2: help others. So it's not specifically Batman that brings this
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Speaker 2: out of people, although Batman does the trick. Other people
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Speaker 2: dressed as superheroes on a train also inspire you, I guess,
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Speaker 2: to be nicer and better people. This just makes my
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Speaker 2: case for why conventions like dragon Con are special. Because
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Speaker 2: if you've ever gone into Atlanta, been walking down the street,
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Speaker 2: gone into maybe a restaurant nearby. I know there's a
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Speaker 2: Hooters nearby, you go in to have something to eat,
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Speaker 2: there's people dressed up like superheroes and various other can
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Speaker 2: not necessarily superheroes, just pop culture icons. You might be
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Speaker 2: more likely to be especially kind and generous when it
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Speaker 2: comes to tipping your waitress, more so than you normally would,
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Speaker 2: even at Hooters, or if you've ridden the marta with
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Speaker 2: people that are or been in one of the food
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Speaker 2: courts nearby. So just makes the case for why people
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Speaker 2: are just nicer at places like those conventions. It's an
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Speaker 2: interesting thing. It's actually that little thing that jolts you
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Speaker 2: out of the normal routine. I guess that ultimately puts
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Speaker 2: you in a position where maybe you might be more
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Speaker 2: considerate or do something nice. A startup company in California
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Speaker 2: is rolling out beer brewed from recycled shower and laundry water.
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Speaker 2: The company, called Epic Clean Tech filters zapps and purifies
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Speaker 2: the water until it's safe to drink. Well, I would
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Speaker 2: hope so sounds like a Kramer thing on Seinfeld, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: It's then brewed into shower Our IPA and Laundry Club kolsh,
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Speaker 2: which will soon be distributed in several states. Epic Clean
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Speaker 2: Tech claims the water is actually cleaner than water that
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Speaker 2: comes out of some taps and hopes that this project
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Speaker 2: will soon show how reusable water can cut waste and
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Speaker 2: still make a decent beer. Interesting, isn't it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think the thought of the fact that it's been
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Speaker 2: sort of recycled water may turn some people off from it. However,
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Speaker 2: I mean there's people like you know, water has to
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Speaker 2: be recycled in a number of scenarios for it to
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Speaker 2: be used again and again and again. Right has to
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Speaker 2: be cleaned up, redistributed. Think about the folks on the
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Speaker 2: International Space Station as one example. And you know the
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Speaker 2: water that we drink that has to be filtered. So
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Speaker 2: is your house Santa ready? If Santa is going to
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Speaker 2: be parking reindeer on your roof and come down the chimney,
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Speaker 2: leave gifts under the tree, grab a cookie or two
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Speaker 2: before leaving. Some things that you'll need to do the
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Speaker 2: Santa is coming. Cost index includes fixing the roof, cleaning
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Speaker 2: the gutter, sweeping the chimney, putting up Christmas lights, buying
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Speaker 2: your tree stockings, removing snow, baking chocolate chip cookies, buying milk,
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Speaker 2: having carrots for the reindeer, and all that stuff. We
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Speaker 2: talk about this every year. Overall, the estimated cost for
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Speaker 2: getting Santa ready for your home this year is twenty
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Speaker 2: and thirty six cents. That is, of course, if you
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Speaker 2: have to do roof repair and deal with the chimney,
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Speaker 2: sweep and all that fun stuff. Otherwise, you know, some
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Speaker 2: cookies and some carrots. I guess, I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It's it seems like a lot of excessive things. If
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Speaker 2: you're using a recycled tree or an artificial tree, I
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Speaker 2: should say, then you don't have to worry about it, right, Well,
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Speaker 2: it seems that more and more people are saying enough
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Speaker 2: is enough and quiet quitting Christmas this year, at least
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Speaker 2: the moms. They're not skipping the holidays, They're just scaling
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Speaker 2: back on the excess and the stress. Forget the endless
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Speaker 2: gift list and Pinterest, perfect decorations and marathon cooking sessions.
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Speaker 2: Instead moms only doing what sparks joy insanity if you
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Speaker 2: were present, Simpler meals, less decking the halls, maybe skipping
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Speaker 2: some of the traditions, making things feel a less like
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Speaker 2: a chore. So still trying to make it magical, the pressure,
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Speaker 2: but not putting all that extra stuff. I'll be honest.
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Speaker 2: There were a few things decorations wise this year that
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Speaker 2: we went do we really need that? I feel like
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Speaker 2: we could make that cut this year, so we did
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Speaker 2: some of this. But all right, that'll do it for
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Speaker 2: this Tuesday edition of the show. Thanks to our sponsors
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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning.
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