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  Hello, top of the day to you, whatever time of the day it
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  is. When you listen in, you are in charge. And here we
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  go with three guys before the game. It's episode number five hundred and twenty
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  two. Creative teams struggled with a title for this episode, so we just
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  went o you plus KU equals and we didn't know what else to say,
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  so we just left to that, right, Yeah, because we don't know
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  self disclosure. We're being totally honest. We didn't know what else to say,
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  and so we just said just leave it like that. So what this
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  is is a review of West Virginia's game against the Sooners of Oklahoma and a
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  preview of Saturday's date against the Kansas Jayhawks. And we will also talk WV
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  women's basketball, as the WV women's team did something against Houston that had never
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  been done before in program history and the programs in its fiftieth year. Pretty
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  good when you do something that's never been done after fifty years. Yeah,
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  by the way, I also saw something I'd never seen before. You know
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  how they say you know something always something you've never seen will can happen?
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  Okay, have you ever seen a half come to an end? Of a
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  basketball game on a shop that wedges between the backboard and the rim. I've
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  never seen that before. Right shot goes up a horn. Never saw it?
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  All right, we'll get into all that more. Three guys before the
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  spreads on stats coming up with the numbers brought to us by the conly CPA
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  group, they provide value beyond the numbers and so much more so, let's
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  do this thing. West Virginia meets up for the with the Sooners of Oklahoma
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  for the final time. As the regular season games go, you never know
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  you see them in the Big twelve Tournament and Oklahoma strong second half they prevail
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  over West Virginia by fourteen, seventy seven to sixty three. Mountaineers down for
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  a halftime twenty nine to twenty five. West Virginia led by as many as
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  six in the opening half. Oh, you led by as many as nineteen
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  with just inside of eight minutes to go, and it ends up at fourteen.
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  We'll get into it. I don't think you need to be ah You
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  don't need to be someone at your level, which is basically a doctor of
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  statistics. I mean, I think if a doctorate degrees, you know how
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  they give people doctorates, I'd say you're at a doctor level. Well,
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  that may be a little much. No, I don't think so. No.
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  I think you would be at a doctorate level of statistics in comparison with
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  the general populace. You would be in that one percentile that takes numbers to
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  new levels. My point is you don't need to have your degree to figure
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  this game out. This was This was one for me that I could figure
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  that I could figure out on the fly. I could see the numbers as
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  the night was going on. You know, like in elections they can say,
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  you know, projecting, you know, people coming out of the people
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  coming out of the ballot place, and they're saying like, Eh, this
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  thing is trend this thing is trending. And I saw the numbers starting to
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  trend. Felt pretty good about the rebounds at halftime. You're kind of hanging
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  in there. You're only down three boards. And then Oklahoma went into the
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  locker room at halftime and they said, Okay, here's the deal. We're
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  going to put our head down and drive it straight to the rim, and
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  we're going to get in the lane, make them foul us, get to
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  the free throw line, and out bored them. That's a base explanation.
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  Brad can pull the layers back more on that as we get into spreads on
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  stats. But long and the short of it is, all the things that
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  West Virginia needs to do to win a game they were unable to do.
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  They need to score points at the file line, and they were minus eight
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  in that department. Oklahoma took ten more free throws and they made eight more
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  on the glass. West Virginia gets outboarded by fourteen thirty three to nineteen.
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  WVU only had three offensive rebounds in the night, and all three of those
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  came from Pat Sumnick. No one else had an offensive board, and you
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  just can't win that way. Despite the fact that West Virginia forced Oklahoma into
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  nineteen turnovers, West Virginia only took those nineteen and made seventeen points, where
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  Oklahoma took West Virginia's sixteen and scored sixteen points. So anyway, that's the
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  that's the elementary school breakdown to the numbers. What's your take, Well,
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  oh, by the way Kerchievill isn't here, but he had an adventure on
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  assignment. He's truly on assignment, truly on assignment. And we'll get details
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  on that. Like our boy went down to Charleston for the legislature, but
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  he did a whole lot more. We'll talk about it. He did three
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  guys work as well, he efforted, Yeah, he did. He it
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  was very good efforting. All right, let's talk. Let's dive in this.
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  A couple of spreads on stas. I don't know the whole the whole
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  thing. Everything I say to it might be spreads on stats. You want
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  to play it and just it might be the whole episode. I mean,
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  yeah, because we're we're just basically meeting potatoes here, so we might as
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  well just kind of do this thing and just just get the whole thing started.
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  Yeah, I'll just go right to the numbers. Well, you just
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  said it right there. Let's just go right to the numbers and jump into
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  what do we have. Let's start go through a bunch of different things,
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  kind of recap what we said on Thursday and see how that matched up
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  or on Monday. Excuse me. The first thing, let's take those free
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  throws as you mentioned, because West Virginia actually got more attempts than I thought
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  they would in this game. They were above their season average, so forty
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  three percent free throw rate in that game. But the problem was Oklahoma had
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  a fifty eight percent free throw rate, so it's one of those compared to
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  the Texas game. Remember that number I gave you, Now that was a
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  total outlier. That was about as many free throw as you can get.
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  An eighty seven percent free throw rate. This was almost cut in half down
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  to forty three. It was cut in half, so that drops quite a
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  bit. So you're right. We said, going in, well, a
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  couple things ilse going order here. We said it wouldn't be a blistering pace.
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  We said both teams are coming in about sixty six to sixty eight possessions
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  per game, and we said OU's effective when they push it. They don't
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  do it a ton, and they're not Texas number one in the top one
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  percent style, but when they pushed, they're very good. Game land sixty
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  nine possessions right right exactly where we thought it would. OU was very effective
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  when they decided to push thirteen to two fast break points advantage. That was
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  seventeen percent of Oklahoma's points came via the transition, so that's up a little
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  bit from their average. We said, for West Virginia, how are you
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  going to score? Right, You've got to make some shots because you probably
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  weren't going to get to the free throw line. We just went over that
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  you're probably not going to get a lot of offensive putbacks. You mentioned that
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  only three offensive rebounds, they all came from Pat Sumnik. You only had
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  six second chance points, so you're not getting enough free throws. Your minus
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  eight. I know some of those came late, but you were never in
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  a big plus situation at the free throw line. You didn't get enough offensive
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  rebounds and putbacks, and you didn't shoot it well from three, just twenty
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  seven percent. So you can just look at those metrics and say, Okay,
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  West Virdin was going to truggle, struggle to score. Western dominated again
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  on the glass. That ten to three offensive advantage for Oklahoma. Oklahoma was
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  plus five when it came to second chance points. Now, let's flip over
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  to the defense for a second, because I thought they regressed a little bit
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  in terms of what Oklahoma said. You correctly identified that they just lined up
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  and said we're going right at you. We're going to take it right in
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  the paint. Fifty two percent of Oklahoma's points came inside the paint. We
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  said on Monday, Oklahoma's going to try and get the ball to the rim.
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  They did. Fifty seven percent of their shots were at the rim.
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  They'd been averaging thirty three percent of their shots. You talk about a step
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  up, that's something Oklahoma decided right away is we can get to that basket
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  and we're going to go right at you. They were eighteen of twenty eight
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  on shots at the rim. So again that's defined just four and a half
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  feet in so they were very effective right there. The one thing that didn't
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  necessarily come to fruition we said Oklahoma would run a bunch of pick and roll
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  sets. It was the second lowest point production from the pick and roll ball
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  handler from Oklahoma, so that wasn't something they had to use. Their role
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  man was effective though, so it was the second lowest point production of the
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  year on the total pick and roll So in a vacuum, you would have
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  taken that if you're West Virginia, but they were attacking you in those other
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  ways. They didn't have to go to their pick and roll as much,
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  so there just weren't any metrics that stood out to you, that showed you
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  West Virginia was going to win that game. We said on Monday, didn't
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  like them, didn't like the situation going in Oklahoma, having lost to West
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  Virginia off a really good performance that's generally on going on the road, not
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  a great situation. Didn't like that, and it wasn't a good matchup this
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  Oklahoma team. What they liked to do, what West Virginia needs to have
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  happen, and those things did not look good on paper. And I thought
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  that bore itself out on the court. Yeah. Absolutely, And not to
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  make excuses, but they literally lost a practice day on what day would that
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  be, Tuesday? Because travel just went sideways and they were scheduled to work
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  out at Lloyd Noble upon arrival, but arrival was too late. The team
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  got just delayed. We're supposed to fly out originally from Bridgeport, then it
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  became Pittsburgh, and then the plane didn't get to Pittsburgh in time. Had
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  to spend the day in a bowling alley for about three to four hours.
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  And you by the time it's all done and said, nine and a half
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  hours from the time they left the coliseum to get to Norman and then it
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  was nighttime and they couldn't go over there at eight o'clock at night, and
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  as a result, they had to watch tape in the party room at the
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  Bowling Alley, non traditional place to film. So they went into the party
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  room at the Bowling Alley had a big chunky cheese mascot and the sidewall there
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  and they watched tap. But anyway, you didn't get on the floor at
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  least a walk through their stuff. And Josh Eiler said after the game last
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  night that you know, they just were step slow and they did not have
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  their bounce. So anyway, that's what happens. That's this time of the
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  year. It's happened to Oklahoma State twice in the last couple of last week
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  or so that they got stranded, and it's that point anyway, real quick,
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  can I give you just two more numbers, because we talk about jump
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  shots a lot, and it's just this, what do we say in this
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  game, it was a make shots game. You were gonna have to hit
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  your jump shots. Let's take a look at this, and I think this
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  tells the story as well. Overall, just total jumpers in the game.
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  West Virginia took thirty one of them. Oklahoma took just eighteen, So stop
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  right there. That makes it a make shots game. You're taking that many
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  more jump shots means you're not getting lips, you're not getting dunks, not
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  get into the basket guarded versus unguarded shots. So wes Virginia had twenty total
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  catch and shoot jumpers. Ball is passed, you catch it, go up
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  for a shot. Twenty of those, fourteen of them were guarded, and
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  West Virginia didn't hit at a clip that they did against Texas, so that
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  number is not surprising. That's about where West Virginia is and that's sixty percent
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  of its catch and shoots have been guarded this season. They just didn't knock
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  enough down. Those are hard to do. Guarded jump shots are difficult when
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  you have guys draped all over you. On the other side. Catch and
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  shoot jumpers for Oklahoma fourteen, So of their eighteen total jump shots, fourteen
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  of them were catching shoots. They had nine of those fourteen were unguarded.
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  Not good, not good. So that's a that's a category we'll continue to
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  look at throughout the year because it's it's really important for West Virginia. If
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  it's not going to get more unguarded shots, it has to have those games
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  like Texas where guys are going to have to make difficult shots with people in
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  their face. Tali two halves for both teams and shooting both teams are under
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  forty percent in the first half, West Virginia thirty nine, Oklahoma thirty eight.
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  Second half, West Virginia fifty two. You go, all right,
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  happy days are here again. Great. However, Oklahoma shot sixty four percent
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  in the second half and made eighteen free throws in the second half compared to
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  West Virginia's ten, and took ten more free throws in the second half.
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  So for the game ou forty nine percent to West Virginia's forty six three point
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  shooting. They took fifteen, they made five. West Virginia made seven out
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  of twenty three. That's thirty percent. WU as we said, just didn't
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  get it done at the foul line. You know, like everyone out there,
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  when you watch this Mountaineer team, at some point during the game,
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  if you're closely invested while you're watching it, you're sitting yourself. I just
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  wonder what it would look like if Jesse Edwards was out there because you just
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  got beat on the board by fourteen, You got beat thirty three to nineteen.
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  You just sit there and you go, does yes he gets seven?
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  Does he get eight? What does he impact the game? Like in that
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  pick and roll set? Who do they how do they stop him? You
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  just wonder. The good news is he's getting closer. Don't know exactly when,
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  definitely won't be this weekend. And now you've got two road games after
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  this weekend. You go Tuesday, UCF, you go Saturday at Stillwater against
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  Oklahoma State. I don't know, he's you know, he's doing everything he
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  can, with the exception right now of using that hand full out sprints yesterday
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  at the at Lloyd Noble Center up top on the concourse, he was just
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  running full go, trying to get CARDI keep his cardio going. And then
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  you just don't know how tight that wrist is once they take the brace off.
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  They're supposed to do X rays Friday the nineteenth tomorrow. See where it
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  is. Well, you'll take him whenever you can get him. The sooner
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  the better. Obviously, the next two in particular, you get and we'll
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  talk about Kansas here in a minute. With the seven foot er Hunter Dickinson,
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  who's one of the best, not only in this league, in the
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  country, high profile transfer that came in from Michigan. You're gonna you're gonna
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  need some help with him. But then you get UCF that's been a surprise
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  team. They won again this week. They've got some real length to them
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  too, They've got some size. So it's ting. As you know,
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  we don't talk before the show about what we're going to talk about is usually
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  as obvious for this show. But I'm gonna get to a number involving Edwards
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  in the pick and roll coming up here in just a minute that I think
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  will back up as you said, you wonder how it looks, You wonder
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  how it works on rebounding. You wonder what it does not only to the
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  effectiveness of the pick and roll with an elite big man like that, but
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  how that would open up some other shots. But we'll talk about Edward's coming
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  up here inamut. I think stat will surprise you well, is that when
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  you start your preview for Kansas. Yes, so do you play the whole
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  song again and you just play the stinger? No? I think we can
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  just do stingers but we should talk about the women's team first before we do
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  that, So you won't play a stinger for the women's team. Will do
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  a couple numbers. Yeah, we'll give sure. We give the wv women
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  the heck of our performances, we'll give them a stinger. Here's a stinger.
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  Well that was overmodulated, as heck, we do one that's not overmodulated
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  for those that like good quality digital audio under the red much more palatable.
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  Listen to go ahead, Well how about the win first of all, bounce
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  back eighty to thirty nine, but go ahead, do you want to unveil
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  what was history making? And was yeah, pretty remarkable. So they pitched
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  a shutout. They did not allow Houston to score in the first quarter,
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  didn't score And I know we haven't been in quarters a ton, but I
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  don't care who you're playing. For a team not to score a point,
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  it's pretty much a while. But West Virginia pitched a first quarter shutout for
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  the first time in school history. And then it just kind of continued to
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  escalate for WVU and continue to go down in the wrong direction for Houston.
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  Start he started the game on a nineteen oh run. That's pretty seventeen oh
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  first quarter, came out scored the first back of a second nineteen oh run
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  ballgame at that point with Houston. This was an intriguing matchup because both teams
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  try and do the same thing. Western NEAs just did it much better.
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  Houston's gonna press, they're gonna shoot threes, they're gonna try and force two
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  ervers, They're gonna do all those things. West Virginia was just better at
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  it. But a couple key markers for WU. Fifty six percent of its
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  shots were at the rim. So we've talked about in those losses, you
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  probably became over reliant on three because you couldn't get all the way to the
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  hoop. You didn't have the steals in conversions on layups you did in this
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  particular game. So fifty six percent of the shots you got to the basket.
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  Three point attempt rate was down at just twenty seven percent. That's down
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  from a season average of forty five. And you made forty percent of your
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  threes, so you took fewer because you were getting to the basket, but
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  you had a pretty good rate of making those as well. You won the
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  points off turnover battle twenty to eleven. And then here's a number that goes
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  along with the scoring futility for the Kougs. One of twenty two from three.
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  Excuse me, one of twenty two from three. So they put twenty
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  two of those up there, and they made one correct. You know what
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  coach Kellogg should have done after West Virginia was up nineteen to nothing early in
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  the second quarter and Houston scored, he should have called time out and taken
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  all five of his players off the floor. That's it. If that's how
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  we're gonna play. Everyone's out, five new ones in there. What do
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  you think we're doing. I wanted a full first half shutout. Yeah,
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  that's just that's such a while, such a while. So two good bounce
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  backs there for West Virginia. Now they go on the road to get a
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  Cincinnati team they've already played once and beaten, and then Iowa State comes in
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  again. So wester Ron needs to keep on keep on rolling. Yeah.
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  So so they're gonna try to go for the sweep against the Bearcats Cincinnati on
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  Saturday. And did you say Iowa State afterwards? After that? What day?
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  What day of the week is it? Man? I hope we're home.
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  I want to go see that jan twenty seven, jan twenty seven,
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  January twenty seven. That's a weekend, right, that'd be yeah, that
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  is Saturday, so we're going still water. I wanted to watch that.
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  Yeah, I wanted to see what West The reason I wanted to watch it,
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  I wanted to see what West Virginia's counter is going to be because Iowa
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  State just packed it inside when they played the Mountaineers. That was a game
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  toll lev was up nineteen third quarter, and then they just packed it forced
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  West Virginia to shoot threes. So I want to see what the chess match
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  is this time around because Iowa State didn't get shorter since then. I want
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  to know it's a really good point and it'll it will be a good chess
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  mass. But also, as we talked after that game, if you're Mark
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  Hellog, I don't know that you have to make wholesale changes, because,
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  as we said, you're up nineteen, you make a couple more threes,
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  two three, you like your team shooting threes, you like your team shooting
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  threes at home. I don't know that you have to adjust a whole lot.
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  There, a couple tweaks, a couple more steals that you finish at
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  the basket and do what you do. I think you think off topic are
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  hair might be the first time we've ever gone off topic. You think that
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  Iowa State is due reparations from TCU. Reason well, Iowa State had sold
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  nine thousand tickets for Saturday's game against TCUH in Aames. Yeah, TCU has
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  decided not to participate. Now the wait I want to say that again.
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  TCU has decided not to participate. I've never seen anything like this ever,
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  pre or post COVID. That's the only time you saw it, Yeah,
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  COVID. Okay, fine, teams are getting sick. They literally didn't have
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  enough players. TCU has canceled. I said canceled, not postponed. They've
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  canceled two games. They're going to take two forfeits. Yep, because they
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  say they don't have enough players. Yes, which isn't true. Which isn't
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  true. They have two walk ons. I haven't played. They could have
• 22:59
  put enough players out there. That's unheard of in a conference game. No
• 23:03
  less, Yeah, that's unheard. I agree. Case State was already in
• 23:07
  Fort Worth. Oh oh yeah, they were already in Fort Worth. I
• 23:14
  don't get this one. I don't understand how TC use eight athletic drug and
• 23:18
  no, no, no, no, no, no no, go get
• 23:18
  I don't care, go get go get some players. Well they did,
• 23:22
  they did put an ad out on social Well that's fine. They had they
• 23:26
  could have. They had enough to play. They like they had four They
• 23:29
  should have been playing. They have people that are dressed. Then you've got
• 23:30
  it. Then you got to play. I don't understand, Hey, don't
• 23:33
  play. But how about this, Yeah, these two forth fits don't count
• 23:37
  against their record in the eyes of the n C Double A tournament. So
• 23:41
  they're still sitting there with ten wins. Yeah, they count as conference losses.
• 23:47
  No, yes, no, they yeah, league wise, fine,
• 23:52
  I'm saying, in the eyes of the n C Double A, it's like
• 23:53
  the game's never happened. They're gonna have too fewer gas. That just can't
• 23:56
  be. Then you've got to make an amendment there that just can't be.
• 23:59
  I'm just saying, and that's what it is. I know. But if
• 24:00
  they count as conference losses, how do they not count as NCAA overall losses.
• 24:03
  They didn't play the game on your record because they didn't play the game,
• 24:06
  but you're counting it as a conference loss, so they didn't play the
• 24:07
  game. That's why in the NCLA it doesn't matter. So that's a mind
• 24:10
  blower right there. That's a mind blower that that happened. So if I'm
• 24:15
  k State, I'm going like, where's the fifty thousand or sixty thousand dollars
• 24:21
  for a team to charter back and forth to your place? I need sixty
• 24:25
  in Iowa States sitting there, and now they got nine thousand seats that they
• 24:27
  sold. Your buddies with Jamie Pollard, aren't you, yeah, athletic director
• 24:33
  there at Maryland. Yeah, Iowa State. I mean I would think Jamie's
• 24:37
  going like we just lost a gate. Anyway, I just thought that was
• 24:41
  bizarre, off topic. I thought it was crazy. Meanwhile, back at
• 24:47
  the ranch, we congratulate coach kell Ogg and the WV ladies. They continue
• 24:53
  to roll it and best of luck against the Cincinnati where they go for the
• 24:56
  sweep. Now another stinger. We now begin our preview of Kansas and Jayhawks
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  come in ranked number three in the country. You know, you know a
• 25:11
  lot about the Kansas program. Don't know if you know this or not,
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  three avalon twenty three eighty five entertainer. Did you know that? About self
• 26:44
  and the pontoons did not had not heard that. Man, had not heard
• 26:49
  that. We'll get our staff unconfirmed at this point. But that's what I
• 26:52
  was led to believe. That led to believe that real quick. I'm just
• 26:56
  not sure how that doesn't count on your NCAA record, if it counts as
• 26:59
  a conference? Can someone fix that? That's some most that's one of the
• 27:03
  about say. It's one of the dombest things I've ever heard, but it's
• 27:07
  given what we've been through, it's not. I mean, chances are the
• 27:10
  committee will look well here, I guess it doesn't matter. I guess it
• 27:15
  doesn't matter because if they're going to be players short for the rest of the
• 27:18
  season, it'll probably take care of itself. It probably won't be a conversation.
• 27:23
  Why does it count as a loss in one spot and not the other?
• 27:27
  M hm, I don't like, I don't have any answer. I
• 27:32
  mean, it doesn't rise to the level of the time zone madness, but
• 27:34
  it yeah, nonsense. I mean, I think the Big Twelve is a
• 27:37
  right counts as a loss, right exactly? All right, I'm done.
• 27:44
  You going Kansas? Now? Yeah? Do you already play the stinger?
• 27:47
  You going to the game? Uh? Yeah, I'll be there. Cool,
• 27:51
  look forward to it. So, so on the on the scale of
• 27:56
  good, how good are they good? Really good? Coming off what was
• 28:03
  probably its best game of the year. So you can look at that a
• 28:07
  couple of ways. You can say it's a Jayhawk team that's rolling coming in
• 28:11
  here, or you can say, man, that was their peak performance.
• 28:15
  Maybe I'll come back to the pack here a little bit, because they absolutely
• 28:18
  were outstanding against Oklahoma State back on Tuesday. That game was never in doubt,
• 28:22
  ran up and down, put up ninety points, a close to a
• 28:26
  season high on the year. They opened the season with a couple of ninety
• 28:29
  nine pointers against non Power five teams, but they were outstanding. The thing
• 28:33
  with them what I'll be watching Kansas throughout the season because when you judge Kansas,
• 28:37
  it's always based on is it a national championship Kansas team. They're elite,
• 28:41
  They're gonna be right in the hunt for this Big Twelve title. Probably
• 28:45
  should be the favorite right now. Even with Houston, they're right there.
• 28:48
  The question is can they get to the national title? Number wise, they're
• 28:52
  just outside of that range. The national champion is going to come from the
• 28:56
  group that has a top twenty, top two, twenty five ranking and Ken
• 29:00
  Palm on both offense and defensive efficiency. Their defense is there now. I
• 29:04
  think that's a little surprising thing. And I've thought for years Kansas's defense is
• 29:08
  really underrated because they've had so many talented offensive guys that you're blinded by the
• 29:15
  Wiggins and the Joel Embiid and just keep going down the list of guys that
• 29:18
  you forget how much they guard and they get after you. And I've always
• 29:22
  been impressed how hard they play. So that's never comforting coming in with a
• 29:26
  defensive team that plays hard, that's totally engaged off one of its very best
• 29:30
  performances against a West Virginia team that is struggling to find ways to score.
• 29:36
  So you don't like that matchup, but y'are getting them here at home.
• 29:38
  Let's dive into a couple of their specifics. They don't create a ton of
• 29:42
  turnovers. If you're trying to look for a spot where maybe you've got a
• 29:47
  little helpier. And well, I said that about Oklahoma, and I thought
• 29:48
  West Virginia committed more than it would have liked. Oklahoma wasn't a team that
• 29:53
  forced a ton of turnovers, same as this Kansas team. But here's what
• 29:56
  they do. The bulk of their turnovers are going to show up as steals.
• 30:00
  They're in the bottom fifty nationally in non steel turnovers, which surprised me.
• 30:06
  As good as their defenses. But they're going to kill you with steals.
• 30:08
  And that's when they take off and run you to death. And that's
• 30:11
  what they did against Oklahoma. And you've heard coaches forever, starting with Hugs
• 30:15
  Josh has mentioned it with what they say about live ball turnovers. That's the
• 30:18
  killer, right, That's really the number within the number of turnovers that gets
• 30:22
  you beat. It's your free runouts. So you don't have to bang your
• 30:26
  head playing a half court offense and do something that takes right. It's hard
• 30:32
  to score in the half court. I don't care who you're playing against.
• 30:33
  You have a lot of things have to go right to score in the half
• 30:36
  court. Whereas when you're our full throttle running up the floor and you've got
• 30:41
  a numbers advantage a lot easier to score. Yeah, so they're one hundred
• 30:45
  and ninety first and turnover percente but watch out for those steals and then you
• 30:48
  better find a way to get back or slow them down. And that's not
• 30:52
  been easy to do for teams. This is another team. I don't love
• 30:55
  this for West virgin either. This is another team that loves to attack the
• 30:57
  basket. I think that's something that's probably under discussed about Kansas. I've always
• 31:02
  been impressed. They always do it. They get the ball and man,
• 31:03
  they get downhill on you and make you guard, not only with help side,
• 31:08
  they make you match up and guard. West Virginia's success against these guys
• 31:11
  a lot of times came win when you had a Dax Smiles AND's Jevon Carter
• 31:15
  that seals are right. You want to try and go downhill, come on
• 31:18
  with it. You can't get by me. If you're not gonna guard on
• 31:21
  the ball here, You've got big problems against these guys because they're gonna get
• 31:23
  downhill on you. Plus the way they call the charge block now, which
• 31:26
  I don't know that that's changed as much as they said before the season,
• 31:30
  they said that was going to be ninety six, Curtis Shaw on record saying
• 31:34
  ninety six of one hundred block charges. Hell, the people who Curtis Shaws
• 31:37
  supervisor of officials for the Big twelve, ninety six of one hundred charges block
• 31:45
  charges were gonna be blocks. It hadn't been that. It has not been
• 31:48
  that well. To get an offensive file nowadays, you you do have to
• 31:52
  get your money's worth. Like last night, Ray Kwan Battle took a shoulder
• 31:56
  slid about seven but did about finally they called it, But you're right.
• 32:00
  I mean most of the time it's it is ninety six percent. Like they
• 32:05
  said before the season, that was one of those giant points of MS.
• 32:07
  I mean, I talked to coaches that said, are you kidding me?
• 32:09
  I don't know how to teach my kids how to play defense here seventy five
• 32:12
  percent. I'll be interested to see the numbers when they come up. Sorry,
• 32:16
  this team attacks you at the basket. Thirty eight percent of its shots
• 32:20
  come at the rim. So almost four out of ten shots are going to
• 32:22
  come at the basket. A lot of those in transitions, but watch them
• 32:24
  near the rim. Here's the other factor there. Seven foot Hunter Dickinson that
• 32:29
  I mentioned earlier, He's gonna burrow down deep on you and shoot that little
• 32:32
  baby jump hulk. He'll do it left or right. It's a devastating shot,
• 32:37
  extremely effective. If you don't have a way to push him off the
• 32:40
  block, you're in some real trouble here. He's not real thin. He
• 32:44
  big boy. As far as pushing him off the block, he's been he's
• 32:46
  been wheeling. This won't be his first trip to West Virginia. What do
• 32:49
  you means we've been to Wheeling part of that Coaches Cancer Research classic. Doctor
• 32:54
  Eric used to hold up and Wheeling phenomenal tournament for years. So you did
• 32:59
  his game when you were up there. It did pros on pros on pros
• 33:01
  coming out of that thing, Hunter Dickinson, And I'll say, what school
• 33:05
  did he go to? Where was he at? Was he at one of
• 33:08
  the academies in that bad He asked me too fast, I'll look it up.
• 33:10
  Look it up, go ahead, research Research, The research team is
• 33:15
  currently looking at it. Get on it. So he'll shoot that little jump
• 33:17
  hook over you. So k you, this is no surprise. Leads the
• 33:21
  Big twelve a number of possessions per game that are post ups and leads the
• 33:25
  Big twelve in post up effectiveness. Here's something for you though, before you
• 33:31
  look up. I need your focus on this because you brought this up.
• 33:34
  He played a Damatha the Matha. That's it. Of course he did.
• 33:37
  This is interesting. I thought you mentioned Jesse Edwards would change this team.
• 33:44
  West Virginia is still fifth in the Big twelve in percentage of time using a
• 33:49
  post up set. Edwards leads the Big twelve in percentage of time in a
• 33:53
  post up set. So even though he's been gone, there's still a five,
• 33:57
  which meant that they were going to him just we know. I mean,
• 34:00
  they were running the offense through him in a post up situation. But
• 34:02
  that was that's pretty stark. I mean, it feels like, I know
• 34:05
  he's been gone a month, it feels like he's been gone six months.
• 34:07
  That's pretty well number there. Yah, last night was a seventh game he
• 34:09
  missed. Yeah, keep an eye on mcculor, Adams, Dickinson. They're
• 34:16
  three of the nation's leaders in rim attempts per game. So to our point,
• 34:21
  it's not just Dickinson backing you down and establishing post presence. kJ.
• 34:24
  I think kJ Adams is really underrated. You know, he played out of
• 34:28
  position last year at five a lot, they've moved him back into a four.
• 34:31
  That's a guy that creates a lot of problems man around the basket,
• 34:35
  and Dickinson can pass too, So West Virginia tries to go zone on these
• 34:39
  guys a little bit. And you saw it last night. I thought Oklahoma
• 34:42
  did a wonderful job of getting the ball to the high post pretty easily and
• 34:45
  then finding somebody along the back line. That happens here too. Dickinson comes
• 34:50
  out easy target to catch the ball. Watch Adams lurking behind you for an
• 34:53
  alleyut behind you that You've got a lot of things to watch with this Kansas
• 34:57
  offense. Yeah, no question about that. Adams is just one of those
• 35:00
  guys. This is steadily improved and as you said, now playing in a
• 35:02
  very comfortable position for him and Hunter, Dickinson is going to just be an
• 35:10
  absolute nightmare matchup. And he is for every team. I mean, there's
• 35:14
  no one in this league that said, yep, it's all right, we
• 35:15
  got Dickinson where we'll take care of it. Because he has great athleticism for
• 35:21
  someone his size. He's two hundred and sixty pounds, he's seven feet one.
• 35:24
  As you said, just really just efficient around the rim, a little
• 35:30
  jump hook, he can step out and take shots. But with all that
• 35:32
  being said, it's actually Kevin mccullor who has the best NBA potential. He's
• 35:37
  the guy that's being listed in the mock drafts. And Dickenson, by the
• 35:43
  way, he kind of does everything for you. Yeah, Dickinson could still
• 35:45
  come back next year to college, and that's a whole nother discussion we'll have.
• 35:52
  Il Wise, he could probably make if he's Dickinson's not being mentioned as
• 35:58
  a draft pick. Correct, So just in this new world that we're living
• 36:00
  in, he could make He could command seven figures. He could command seven
• 36:07
  figures. If he's not making that now, probably make it seven eight hundred.
• 36:10
  Now, just guessing out loud, like why won't you if he gets
• 36:15
  a two way NBA contract he make five hundy, Like, wouldn't you stay
• 36:22
  and just make as much as you possibly can and then go? He may
• 36:27
  that's what Oscar did. Oscar could have come back this year, yeah and
• 36:30
  took but he did. He took it for a year, tucking thing gos
• 36:31
  in, He's got why way, why why wouldn't Oscar have stayed another year
• 36:35
  at Kentucky had made another two million, two and a half millions. When
• 36:37
  you have done that, I wanted to get on and play. Well,
• 36:39
  God dang two and a half million dollars. You play thirty two games,
• 36:45
  thirty four games at Kentucky. He's a Now he's flying commercial doing a two
• 36:50
  way in the in the G League. Why wouldn't you take two and a
• 36:52
  half. He's not flying commercial the whole time. Sometimes he's with the big
• 36:53
  club and he's not flying commercial. Yeah, part of but still I don't
• 36:58
  know, man, just saying, here's the other thing. They get you
• 37:02
  on ready for this, as if I haven't given you enough. Part of
• 37:07
  why they and I just mentioned it a little bit there, but part of
• 37:08
  why they are so good at the rim and attack it so much. They're
• 37:12
  gonna use cutters to the basket more than any big twelve team. They're elite
• 37:16
  when they pass the basketball, number one in the country in assistrate. So
• 37:22
  this is a team that passes it well as well. So watch that not
• 37:25
  only Dickinson posting on you, not only guys getting downhill when they want,
• 37:29
  but they just constantly put pressure on you by having guys slash and cut to
• 37:32
  the basket think about I mean, just think about their roster. Dude Dwan
• 37:36
  Harris right, just has played a ton of basketball. He runs the show.
• 37:40
  Mccullor, as I said, has been around for two hundred years,
• 37:43
  started his career at Texas Tech, and just he continues to get better.
• 37:46
  They add Dickinson in the offseason, kJ Adams, same type of a deal.
• 37:52
  Just continues to get better. They got the dude from Australia, Furfey,
• 37:55
  who offensively is getting more active. He's probably the best pro prospect on
• 38:02
  that team. He's coming. So think about this. The start of that
• 38:06
  Oklahoma State game. As you said, like if there was any question is
• 38:09
  Kansas ready to play? They start that game and about concuss themselves on the
• 38:15
  rim by just in transition, like Furfey comes flying in there, They're ripping
• 38:20
  down dunks and it's like whoa and long night for the Cowboys. West Virginia
• 38:25
  better be on guard because this thing could get out of hand. You've got
• 38:30
  to start with unbelievable energy. You do. Okay, here's a couple other
• 38:34
  things, and we'll move on because I've probably given you enough to worry about.
• 38:36
  Coming up on Saturday. Western has been giving up a lot of the
• 38:38
  on guarded jump shots, as we talked about, So if you don't have
• 38:42
  enough to worry about offensively already, you've got to find them. And this
• 38:45
  is where they're passing coupled with their ability to shoot. So again number one
• 38:49
  in assistraate means they're doing a good job moving the basketball. But when they're
• 38:52
  left open on an unguarded catch and shoot jump shot, they're in the top
• 38:57
  four percent nationally in points person So they get a lot of open shots,
• 39:01
  and if you leave them open, they're delivering on those as well. So
• 39:05
  you've got to watch that. You said that historically the team that wins the
• 39:09
  national championship is very close and ranged. Being a top twenty five offense and
• 39:14
  a top twenty five defense. How close are they to be in that category
• 39:21
  twenty eighth offensively right now? So it's right there. So chances are in
• 39:23
  the next game or so, they're going to bump that in and there'll be
• 39:25
  a team that you start to look at like, Okay, they've got I
• 39:29
  mean, their only losses are to Marquette and then that game at UCF.
• 39:31
  Other than that, they've been rolling people, so they're there. I think
• 39:35
  the difference from them. You know, we'll talk more to our friend Brian
• 39:37
  Hayne here this week, and as we get in, I think they probably
• 39:40
  think Furfey's development here over the last couple of games, where he's really blossomed,
• 39:45
  I think that changes them significantly from a team that's really good can make
• 39:50
  some noise in NCA tournament. I think they start to look at themselves now
• 39:52
  as like, Okay, I mean, he's a matchup disaster, six'
• 39:57
  nine, can get up and down the floor and can shoot it. Add
• 39:59
  it into it kJ Adams. It's super athletic and the best big man in
• 40:01
  the country and a point guard that's two point six' one two point six
• 40:06
  to one, assist a turnover istion. I mean, they've got all the
• 40:08
  elements you want right there. The Australian thing is it's a while the way
• 40:15
  that the game has exploded in that country, in that continent. You know,
• 40:21
  I talked to Mike Gansey and Cleveland's got a player over there that they
• 40:25
  own draft rights to, if I'm not mistaken, And Mike goes over there
• 40:30
  a good bit and that country just has a lot of big boy basketball players
• 40:35
  and continue to come over it's pretty amazing. I don't know what the number
• 40:37
  was, I read it recently. Just how the international presence in basketball has
• 40:44
  just taken the game over. It's kind of breathtaking when you think about where
• 40:47
  it was, you know, thirty years ago for that matter, to where
• 40:52
  it is now. The percentage of increase of foreign players that have become,
• 40:57
  you know, big time contributors at the highest level of the game in the
• 41:00
  NBA, it's pretty wild. It's absolutely pretty wild. Even look at West
• 41:04
  Virginia's roster, right you got Jesse Edwards sitting there and you among others.
• 41:12
  So this is a challenge, no question. When Kansas comes in and always
• 41:15
  is this is I'll give you the same line that I gave you against Oklahoma.
• 41:20
  How does West Virginia score in this game? Kansas is twenty six and
• 41:23
  an opponent free throw rate, so they don't put teams on the line very
• 41:27
  often. They're twenty third in opponent two point field goal percentage. So it
• 41:30
  just comes back to a couple things. You're going to have to limit those
• 41:32
  live ball turnovers, not give them easy baskets, hope that they're struggling to
• 41:37
  make shots. And then you've got to find ways either you've got to flip
• 41:42
  the script on them. You've got to get in there an offensive rebound,
• 41:44
  which they usually prevent teams from doing that. Again great size, Adams leaping
• 41:49
  ability, Dickinson size, You've got to try and find a way to get
• 41:52
  to the free throw line. And it just comes down to you've got to
• 41:53
  find a guy. Ray Kwon Battle's got to have a game. Kerk Crease
• 41:57
  has got to get some most open shots and make those when he gets the
• 42:00
  open shot, and you've got to have one of those games when you're really
• 42:02
  effective shooting it. I think that's one of the big things right now with
• 42:06
  Rayquan Battle is trying to find out his most efficient way to play, because
• 42:15
  if you watched or listened last night, they're running double at him early in
• 42:19
  the game, so they know what he's out there to do. So if
• 42:23
  there's two on you, there's one somewhere. He probably needs to become more
• 42:28
  of a facilitator right now to take some of that pressure off of him.
• 42:34
  And once that happens, then maybe you can start to get in the ball.
• 42:37
  But then again, all of that is going to change when Jesse Edwards
• 42:42
  comes back in the next couple of weeks, you would hope, and then
• 42:45
  again you're still going to be searching for roles. But right now he can't
• 42:50
  score with the doubles that they're throwing at him. It's just too hard.
• 42:55
  Those shot difficulty If you had a stat on shot difficulties, his would be
• 43:00
  up there right now, guarded shots. And it's it's always one of my
• 43:04
  most difficult ones. I was drinking my game Day Express what's it called game
• 43:07
  day Grind coffee game Day grind sorys having a little bit, bought a bag
• 43:09
  this morning, went over saw Rusty, Saw Rusty Rusty. Rusty made me
• 43:15
  a drink and I bought a little bit. Disappointed. Reason well, I
• 43:19
  went in there and it wasn't on the shelf. Sold out again. Yeah,
• 43:22
  I said, Rusty, are you guys out? He said, dude,
• 43:24
  he can't keep it, can't keep it. So he said, I
• 43:28
  got a couple in the bag in the back. So he went and got
• 43:30
  me one. And I bought a bag and he said, I had I
• 43:36
  made fifty bags this on Monday. It's gone. Yeah, so you're keep
• 43:38
  it. PSA if you happen to go visit Mountaineer Roasting and they don't have
• 43:43
  it. Just ask specifically, if you can get yourself ask And the nice
• 43:45
  thing is the nice thing is that he said you're getting repeat buyers of it.
• 43:51
  They've tasted it now and now they're coming back, which tells you it's
• 43:53
  because we said it's going to taste really good. Hold on, don't move
• 43:57
  on one lesson. Let's stay on battle here for just a second, because
• 43:59
  I do find this interesting smart game plan by your opponents. Right, you're
• 44:02
  looking at one of the best players in the league, and you're gonna say,
• 44:05
  what, well, you're not beating us. Someone else can figure out
• 44:07
  how to beat us, and we'll tip your cap. We're not letting him
• 44:09
  beat When Edwards does come back, that changes the equation because he can't double
• 44:14
  everybody. So if you can move the ball, you can get Edwards in
• 44:17
  some one on one situations and they can't double and dig down. Part of
• 44:22
  Jesse's challenge offensively and why he's injured like he is. His teams were not
• 44:25
  only digging, not only doubling, not only tripling, they were whacking him
• 44:30
  right. They were swinging at him as well, So that changes the equation.
• 44:35
  When he gets back in the lineup. One number two. Who else
• 44:37
  scores? Then someone has Kerkcrease has probably got to start scoring and looking to
• 44:43
  score, and I know that's not his nature, but he's a really good
• 44:45
  he's an effective shooter. He's got to make look for more shots, make
• 44:49
  more shots. And then you've got Farakhan, who was outstanding in the pick
• 44:52
  and roll again last night, very effective in that role. But other guys
• 44:55
  then are going to have to score. If it's not going to be Rake
• 44:59
  one, which it's not going to be. I don't know why another team
• 45:00
  would allow him to even get shot off. So yeah, I agree.
• 45:04
  I didn't realize that no a fairir Khn was a social media big time follower
• 45:14
  and he was at IMG. So Kevin Nash is the color analyst at It's
• 45:22
  not Kevin Kevin, Kevin, Kevin Kevin Kevin look it up anyway, Kevin
• 45:25
  who does the color analyst for Oklahoma. I was talking with him after the
• 45:30
  game and his son son's an eighth graders going to be a player, and
• 45:36
  his son sees Farrikhn in the tunnel coming up and walks over to him and
• 45:42
  introduces himself and he says, man, he said, I followed you when
• 45:45
  you're at IMG, and Kevin said, oh, man, he was because
• 45:50
  he made people look silly like crossovers and moves exactly. So he goes like,
• 45:53
  I followed you and so they met. I mean, just like off
• 45:57
  off of that. So here's a kid in Oklahoma watching Farah Cohn who played
• 46:01
  at IMG, and he was like, he's the new day Jordan McCabe,
• 46:06
  right, because mcabe has this well, I was just going to say,
• 46:07
  West Virginia leads the country apparently in social media stars. So of course,
• 46:14
  long history of that, go back to Noel Divine and Tevon Austin. Long
• 46:16
  history speaking of Farah Cohn and follows that dunk he had last night or you
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  kidd me a couple points one, Oh dude, can we do more of
• 46:24
  that? You talk about exploding to the basket and then come on, man,
• 46:31
  come on the technical come on. Yeah, that's where we are.
• 46:37
  He didn't stand over anybody, he didn't scream right in anybody's face. He
• 46:40
  had a highlight reel dunk. Can we just not? Can we just move
• 46:44
  along? Kevin Henry, by the way, Nash is his son. Kevin
• 46:47
  Henry is the color analyst for Oklahoma. My bad, I know Kevin and
• 46:52
  Doug Sermons is not hesitant to call a technical file as you saw there on
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  the class be technical against Javan McCullum on the flop, he'll he'll whistle the
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  technical he was a flop. But also on that, I mean it's a
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  rule. Follow oh it is follow the rules on this that's a rule.
• 47:10
  Well, we got rules on this show. Call it every game. I
• 47:15
  mean consistency, that's not a technical on No Affair, just had a highlight
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  reel play can can we can you be excited? Can God forbid you show
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  emotion in the game? Just come on? Don't need to call everything you
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  Day form at popcorn. No, that's a memory. Speaking of memories,
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  ran up with the Austin, writes our producer. He Austin bringing that picture
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  of myself and Joe Mock last night. So how about Mock. He's the
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  guy that always brings the donuts. Look what he's wearing, got a three
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  Guys hat and always a West Virginia connection. Sure, nice Joe. He
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  doubled up one awesome two, Thank you three Joseph. More Mountaineer games than
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  you are. You know, my man's dedicated. Yeah, he said,
• 49:50
  Uh, he's unbelieved. So he's an insurance dude, and he had clients
• 49:52
  in Oklahoma, so he just scheduled his trip. He said it was an
• 49:55
  aida I was here and coming to the game. He said, I'll see
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  it in. He said, won't see you in Austin when you guys play,
• 50:02
  Because the WV women played that same day down at Baylor. He's going
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  down to Baylor. I'm telling you, yeah, gave me an update on
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  that's one of the original three guys. Hats we were efforting on a new
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  design there by the way, he gave me. Not to pull a you,
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  but efforting on a new design. Sure. He he's the guy that
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  has befriended Eric Stevenson since Eric's playing in Austin. Ye took him in for
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  Thanksgiving. I said, how's he doing? He says doing well. Literally,
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  just got back from a full two week road trip in the g League.
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  Wow. They went to California. They went calls. Why the arena
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  have the rodeo or something in town, I don't know. But they went
• 50:37
  southern California, came up and went through South Dakota. But he was gone
• 50:43
  for two full weeks. They played tonight. He was gonna go over and
• 50:46
  watch him play tonight. Seriously, I wonder if the arena had something usually
• 50:50
  you see this. Oh yeah, you'll have a circus, a big clown,
• 50:54
  big clown, big elephant come in there. Remember that time. We
• 51:07
  already told that story at Madison Square Garden. Yeah, circus animals in the
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  back. Anyway, we'll go in the back. Circuses have less animals.
• 51:15
  Now right because they let they've decreased the number of animals, as they say
• 51:20
  it's not right for the animal. They don't have as many as they used
• 51:23
  to. You have been down to Charleston on the elephants, walk down the
• 51:27
  street seeing pictures. Have never been there the day that you've been there,
• 51:30
  been there, saw the elephants right, took them all right off the train
• 51:31
  right. Text her, Hey, guys, just drove to Charlotte for the
• 51:39
  weekend to visit and spend time with the granddaughter. We stopped for gas just
• 51:44
  north of Beckley at the exit at the Winter Place Ski Resort, the Gent
• 51:47
  exit. I asked the lady behind the counter the correct pronunciation of Gent,
• 51:53
  and she replied gent with a j sound. Are you sure with a grint
• 52:00
  after a long pause. I've lived here all my life? Don't you think
• 52:04
  I ought to know? Was her reply. After exchanging pleasantry, she told
• 52:08
  me to be careful, and I scratched my head, walked out, got
• 52:13
  back into my car, and I left. I'm still puzzled Gent pronounced as
• 52:17
  gent. I'd personally always referred to it as gent with a hard g ghent,
• 52:23
  and I've heard people in the past from Beckley area call it Gent with
• 52:28
  a J. While I understand their letter combination of gh is quite versatile.
• 52:32
  Nowhere else in the English language of the letters gs pronounced as a J.
• 52:37
  This combination GH can be pronounced as a hard G, as in the words
• 52:42
  ghost or ghastly, or gh can be modified to sound like the letter F
• 52:45
  and the words rough or tough. The GH combo can also be adapted to
• 52:51
  be silent, as in words through or though. Therefore, when I asked
• 52:55
  the lady behind the counter for the correct pronunciation of her town, I could
• 53:00
  have accepted an answer of Ghent with a hard G, or fent or even
• 53:06
  an ent. But Gent, I'm not buying it. I've wrecked my mind
• 53:12
  trying to think of another example in the English language with letters gh or are
• 53:15
  pronounced as a J. I'm drawing a blank. There are eight other towns.
• 53:20
  Do you need to play the spreads on stats music because this is more
• 53:22
  in depth than anything I just gave you. There are eight other towns that
• 53:25
  are named Gent one in Virginia, Kentucky, Ohia, Pennsylvania, New York,
• 53:30
  Minnesota, Maine, and there's even a Gent in Belgium. I'm torn
• 53:37
  on how the other Gent residents would pronounce their own town's name, excluding Belgium.
• 53:42
  Seeing Belgium, it's Ghent, doesn't care about Belgium. Or maybe the
• 53:46
  lady behind the counter was simply pulling my leg and has a good story to
• 53:50
  tell her friends. Can you guys shed any light on another example of the
• 53:53
  letters gh being pronounced as a j or have any of you heard of any
• 53:57
  others pronounced Gent differently than I was told. I'd appreciate you're inside. I'm
• 54:00
  afraid they can't bring the subject up to my wife Ms Patty. Ever,
• 54:02
  again, we're too old to get divorced. Keep doing what you do,
• 54:07
  Steven Tornado, that's an unbelievable text. There used to be a player on
• 54:14
  the Rutgers women's basketball team named Caroline Deruz and she was from Kent, Belgium.
• 54:22
  I don't know. Did you look that up? What Caroline? Yeah?
• 54:25
  No, I remember, you just know that. Yeah, she played
• 54:28
  for Teresa Grints back when Sue Wicks was really good at right? But year
• 54:31
  with Adaman about eighty six? Yeah? Eighties? What year's it? Twenty
• 54:37
  four? Yeah, I'm gonna have to find your keys for you after a
• 54:39
  show. You knew that Caroline deruz is a good player. Here's the thing
• 54:45
  about from Steve there. We don't have to address it because we're now going
• 54:50
  to get thirty seven pages of text coming out. I know my grandfather he
• 54:53
  founded Yance again. I mean here it comes, yeah, gent Gent,
• 55:00
  Yeah, my grandfather still go down there twice a year hunting. Caroline deruz
• 55:06
  Is a was inducted into the Rutgers Athletic Hall of Fame in the year two
• 55:12
  thousand. She is the manager of the Belgian national team. Yeah. Like
• 55:20
  I said, she just a great player. Played at Rutgers, graduated in
• 55:24
  ninety four. So she was before cviv ce Vivian Stringer. Yes, yeah,
• 55:30
  ce Vivian coached at Iowa, as you know. A long time prior
• 55:34
  to that, she was at Cheney State in Pennsylvania. And while she was
• 55:37
  at Cheney State, so was John Cheney, who was the head coach of
• 55:42
  Temple at one point. Texter. Hi, this is Steve also known as
• 55:47
  East Bank guy. I just wanted to let you guys know my wife is
• 55:50
  now a fan of three guys. We went out for lunch after church with
• 55:53
  some friends and she talked very fondly of you all. She loves it.
• 55:57
  It's stunning. Go mountaineers. Thank you missus. East Bank, IY texter
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  original proposed location of West Virginia University. When I lived in the Northern Panhandle,
• 56:07
  a Moundsville resident told me that in the first years of the state,
• 56:10
  when the capitol was in Wheeling, Moundsville was given the choice of having the
• 56:15
  state university or the state penitentiary. Moundsville chose the pen because it would bring
• 56:21
  in a better class of people. Oh wow, I don't know about that
• 56:28
  Texter from p one listener holiday delivery staff member putting a pin in the misdelivered
• 56:35
  barrel top story. Oh so this is the story we told around Christmas when
• 56:37
  we had that barrel bit whiskey barrel that was sent to the wrong listener.
• 56:44
  Can't tell you how much I've enjoyed the aftermath of the mention of my part
• 56:46
  in delivering the barrel top to its rightful owner. Here's one more last comment
• 56:51
  on it. The items we ordered from episode eight hundred were the three guys
• 56:54
  Peter Mallar quarterzips for a son in law Ryan and another daughter's boyfriend Ben.
• 57:00
  Both are loyal listeners in Charlotte Awesome. After the story aired, Ryan got
• 57:04
  a call from his aunt Judy Music, who Tony mentioned in an earlier episode
• 57:08
  that's Judy Eaton maiden named Judy Eaton form a great basketballer Parkersburg and here at
• 57:14
  Wu saw them at the food court this fall. Sure, She asked,
• 57:16
  my son in law, did Kathleen's dad get a barrel top delivered to him
• 57:21
  by a mistake from three guys? Ryan confirmed that it was indeed me.
• 57:24
  It's a small West Virginia world. A few days later, Ryan was in
• 57:29
  five guys Berger joined Charlotte wearing his quarter zip. Girl behind the counter did
• 57:35
  a double take and she said, hey, who's three guys coming afress for
• 57:38
  trademark infringement? Love the show honored to have been designated as staff by Tony
• 57:44
  Keep it Up, Signed James Barber and Charleston PS Tony, you know me
• 57:47
  better as the dad of Cayton Barber, a fellow child's book author children's book.
• 57:53
  Yeah, she wrote that great little Thanks again, James, I had
• 57:59
  a peterman our quarterszip on today in fact, do you so? Do I?
• 58:01
  And in case Peter Mallar needed any more branding, they just kind of
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  blurred it right out there. Peter malar. This is the new design though.
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  That is the that's the upper that's like the uh, that's the secret
• 58:12
  club if you know, you know, Yeah, I love that logan,
• 58:15
  right, I love you. You're walking around most people, aren't it.
• 58:16
  It's not the original branding, secondary mark you put out there kind of seecha
• 58:22
  and I know what you got on there. I look at a lot.
• 58:24
  As I've said, it's universal. You can wear it anywhere, right,
• 58:28
  meeting at the office, Yeah, game, social gatherings, clients, valent
• 58:37
  time's date. Three guys listening to the latest episode, and you all mentioned
• 58:44
  Pattison Drive, which is named after former WV West Virginia Governor Oki Pattison.
• 58:50
  As the play by play guy for the University of Charleston Golden Eagles, I
• 58:52
  call several softball home games at what they called the Watt Powell Annex and the
• 59:00
  off city area, and my research of former Watt poll Park I came across
• 59:04
  that Governor Pattison was in attendance on the opening of Watt Paul Park in nineteen
• 59:08
  and forty nine. I also learned that Pattison had two prosthetic legs. He
• 59:15
  accidentally shot himself in both feet with his shotgun while bird hunting and nineteen thirty
• 59:21
  two the doctors in Beckley had to amputate both legs below the knee. Goodness,
• 59:27
  wow, Jack and Scott depot the things you learn. Jack's pretty in
• 59:34
  depth wealth anologist Jack. You know Jack? Well, yeah, I know
• 59:37
  Jack. I mean, how about the research he's doing. You think we
• 59:40
  had him onto our research staff. That's pretty good. Well, he got
• 59:43
  a lot of jobs. M hm, He's had a lot of jobs.
• 59:46
  He I mean, he say he's played by player everych other. I mean,
• 59:49
  he does like four thousand different sports. I'd hate I'd tell you what.
• 59:53
  Betcha Conley's CPA group wouldn't want to have him as a client because he
• 59:57
  gets all those those ten ninety nine think you here, how many people do
• 1:00:01
  you work for you? Texter fodder for Hoppy's hanky segment of the show.
• 1:00:07
  My all time favorite childhood Christmas gift from Santa was a transistor radio in a
• 1:00:13
  leather case. I listened to Jack Fleming narrate all the Mountaineer games, and
• 1:00:19
  for some reason we could hear a rock station from Boston at night signed by
• 1:00:25
  doctor Jeff and Charleston. PS. How about these titles for Hoppy's segment Hoppy's
• 1:00:30
  Good Old Days or Hoppy Days. Thank you, doctor Jeff. And there's
• 1:00:36
  no question that there is a romance that exists for many of age with a
• 1:00:43
  transistor radio. How many stories do you have of people sneaking into transistor radio
• 1:00:49
  to listen to World Series games that were played in the afternoon, or like
• 1:00:53
  you, you go to bed listening. That's how I got started in the
• 1:00:58
  business. It wasn't a transistor radio, but it was a clock radio at
• 1:01:01
  my end table in my bed, and I would go to the bed listening
• 1:01:07
  to Ted Darling, the voice of the Buffalo Sabers, who lived in my
• 1:01:10
  hometown as Sons a year younger than I, and Ted was an unbelievable announcer
• 1:01:16
  or Van Miller broadcasting the Buffalo Braves games. And I would always say,
• 1:01:22
  man, that would be so cool to do that. Yeah, magic of
• 1:01:28
  it. Thank you very much. Speaking of Hoppy, as we said earlier
• 1:01:34
  in this episode, he is on assignment. In Monday's episode, we encouraged
• 1:01:38
  strongly, we strongly encouraged Hoppy to pay a visit when he goes down to
• 1:01:47
  cover the legislature to the unbelievably great guys at the fire station who had written
• 1:01:52
  in they had said how they would love to have Hoppy stop by Hoppy true
• 1:01:59
  to his words. So they all go do that, and this photo emerged
• 1:02:05
  from his visit. So he made a bunch of new friends besides those five
• 1:02:10
  guys there. This is only the beginning of this story. See they've got
• 1:02:15
  the coffee they're holding on the right there. Hobby brought that five to pound
• 1:02:17
  back bag. That's not the that's not the smaller one that's on the shelf.
• 1:02:21
  That's a big old bag. That's a five pound game day grind for
• 1:02:23
  the roasting. Oh you can get it on the website. He gets five
• 1:02:27
  pounder. I have started doing that. I mind a little bag and needs
• 1:02:30
  a big bag. And the one gale and popcorn container that the other gentleman
• 1:02:35
  is holding there with the hoodie on, that's the one we signed and that
• 1:02:37
  has the latest popcorn in it, the Valentine's Vanilla Crunch. So he's real
• 1:02:45
  quick. He's standing there with Brian Evans, Mark Strickland, Stephen Martin,
• 1:02:47
  JD. Hale and Steven Settle. Yeah. I think that's right. I
• 1:02:52
  think that's their names right. So more on that of Hoppy's great adventure to
• 1:02:55
  the fire station coming up on Monday's episode. Maybe some video, maybe a
• 1:03:02
  fire poll involved. That's all we can say for legal reasons at this point.
• 1:03:08
  Texter Gentlemen, on a recent episode, you paid homage to Marion County
• 1:03:15
  native Nick Saban as possibly the greatest college football coach of all time. Who
• 1:03:19
  would be his closest rival? Could it be Marion County native Fielding Hurry Up
• 1:03:24
  Yost, who is credited with six national championships signed by cl from Clarksburg.
• 1:03:30
  I'm also a Marion County native, so I've talked about this before and I'm
• 1:03:37
  gonna have this done. I'm gonna build a graphic of I'm personally I'm not
• 1:03:44
  because I got a d in Art in first grade. I'm gonna have I'm
• 1:03:46
  gonna effort to have someone do this. Take telescope view, you go Moningelia,
• 1:03:52
  Marion, Harrison, upsure those counties count the national championships. I maintain
• 1:04:03
  that's been done, hasn't It? Isn't that out there? No, you
• 1:04:06
  saw one. I think of the gentleman that did it from the Columbus region
• 1:04:13
  to Marion County where he goes all of those coaches. Yeah, I did
• 1:04:17
  see that, but I thought there was one previous that had the other one.
• 1:04:19
  But anyway, I didn't see that they did. I'm gonna do it
• 1:04:21
  again, Okay. Anyway, Yeah, short answers. Yes, the Upshur
• 1:04:28
  County one was the guy that Chris Wallace turned us onto born here and then
• 1:04:34
  won all the natties down in the Southern States. Forget who it was,
• 1:04:43
  I'll get it, or now I'll get sixty two texts to tell me who
• 1:04:45
  it was. Yes, greeting guys. Given the hibernation of Kerchievel for the
• 1:04:50
  season, I've given up my quest. It all started last summer. I
• 1:04:54
  decided to try and partake in the Golden Nectar in as many different places as
• 1:04:59
  I could find your beer. After about the fourth week, my wife finally
• 1:05:03
  caught on while I was dragging her to different restaurants other than the usuals.
• 1:05:09
  Included here are photos of Mike Kerschavel servings at the Varsity Club, Mountain,
• 1:05:14
  Mamas von Blaize, a boat on, cheat Leg jeans, black Bear Cagglers,
• 1:05:17
  and of course the three Guys tailgate. It was a fun experiment that
• 1:05:23
  ended with me passing off a few cans of the contraband to Dougie Fresh at
• 1:05:26
  the Mayo Bowl. Here's a last couple of photos toasting your grand beverage from
• 1:05:30
  our deck in Evansdale and Dougie Fresh's deck and Merle's inlet signed by Bill in
• 1:05:36
  Evansdale. Pretty great, So thank you very much for your support. And
• 1:05:42
  uh, we're efforting on what we're going to do with the beer because obviously
• 1:05:45
  there's a great demand for it. Texter. Oh, look at that's a
• 1:05:51
  good shot there. Oh that's good. Well, that should be in an
• 1:05:55
  art museum. Two guys, maybe three. Everyone is putting too much effort
• 1:06:00
  into a catchy way to send people down the road after a home win.
• 1:06:03
  To quote Curly Bill from Tombstone well By signed by Chris and Hurricane self identified
• 1:06:11
  PEE one listener Texter MG from Morgantown. I think the most Appalachian way of
• 1:06:16
  saying thanks for having us is to say watch for deer, Texter, Tony.
• 1:06:25
  With all due respect to three Guys being the number one podcast in the
• 1:06:28
  world, I just watched Charles Wesley Godwin on the number two podcast in the
• 1:06:31
  world, Joe Rogan. We should all be proud of him as he mentioned
• 1:06:34
  our state at least a dozen times, all positive of course, although he
• 1:06:39
  failed to mention three guys, You guys will need to heat him up a
• 1:06:43
  little bit on whenever he visits and sits in for Hoppy. So proud of
• 1:06:46
  that guy and you guys too. Signed by Keith from Coles City number one.
• 1:06:51
  I just am mind blown that Charles was on with Joe Rogan and two
• 1:06:57
  funny things that one he was wearing a Jeans beer garden which I loved.
• 1:07:00
  And I can't jump on Charles because when he performed down in southern West Virginia
• 1:07:05
  this fall, he wore the efforting T shirt. So we would be honored
• 1:07:11
  at any time Charles wears our gear that we would think that would be kind
• 1:07:14
  of neat. You think we get chucked back on the show here. I
• 1:07:17
  think he'd be happy to join. Now. He's super busy. Well,
• 1:07:20
  he's gonna get real busy this summer. Hard to find a day, but
• 1:07:24
  I think that's probably worth doing. He's doing a stadium tour this summer.
• 1:07:27
  He is so yeah, he is hotter than he's hotter than that. He
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  doesn't seem to subscribe to what the old NBA says sometimes that load management.
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  He doesn't seem to have load management. A man goes now, he's still
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  young, he's bouncy, he's still bouncing. Yeah. Where he runs,
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  you know, he runs around in west Over when he's here, Yeah,
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  five six miles. He just runs around west Over, tries to get when
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  he runs down, probably on River Road during Westover, he's probably got to
• 1:07:56
  do the zigzag so he doesn't get any potholes. He is got a watch
• 1:08:00
  for botholes. Oh yeah, he's hot though. He's hot, you know
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  for a boys down in Charleston. Don't know what I'm talking about here.
• 1:08:09
  He's hotter than a He's hotter than a sweatband and a firefighters helmet. He's
• 1:08:13
  hot Texter. Hey, three guys. Hoppy's always referencing his favorite sports book.
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  I cannot, for the life of me think of it. Could you
• 1:08:20
  please remind me of the title? Thank you so much? So that was
• 1:08:24
  the Pat Conroy book. Look that up. I'm impressed. You know that
• 1:08:27
  it's Pat Conroy. So I for just forget the name of it. My
• 1:08:29
  season is something, my special season, Season on the brink. Season.
• 1:08:32
  I know it's not Season on the Brink. That was fine Steam with Bobby
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  Knight. What wasn't a great book. Uh, we'll get that in a
• 1:08:40
  second. Dana from Houston. I mean, Pat conra is a ton of
• 1:08:43
  books. It's something about the basketball. Just put Pat Conroy basketball book.
• 1:08:47
  That's when he was at the Citadel. Thank you my losing season, Bingo,
• 1:08:54
  my losing season is your book? Here to serve Dana from Houston,
• 1:08:59
  Right. This may be a bit controversial, but I kind of like the
• 1:09:02
  idea of kercheve L being released in limited runs. It can become our fans
• 1:09:08
  base version of the mcribb. Well, there is something to be said for
• 1:09:15
  scarcity, but I don't think in this particular case. Yeah, I've got
• 1:09:23
  my own thoughts on that. I don't think that was really Danta from Houston.
• 1:09:26
  No, I don't think this might be a different guy. Charlie from
• 1:09:30
  mid Lothian. We know him. He's still mad at you. We're going
• 1:09:34
  to see I've got two accolades for Brad. Apparently is me. I've got
• 1:09:39
  two accolades for Brad. I'm impressed that he put a kebash on a statement
• 1:09:43
  that he was about to be made during the Gomart segment at the beginning of
• 1:09:46
  your last show. If you know, you know, would also like to
• 1:09:50
  congratulate him on his new world record for spreads on stats. He absolutely shattered
• 1:09:56
  and more than doubled his count for the number of times that he put his
• 1:09:59
  glasses on and took his glasses off. I noted twenty times. A long
• 1:10:02
  segment. Yeah, it was long segments. And lastly, with all due
• 1:10:08
  respect to Charlie and Martha, I couldn't stop laughing at your befuttlement Tony at
• 1:10:12
  the end of the podcast. I got all confused there. I wanted to
• 1:10:15
  Charlie got me confused with Charlie from Monroethy and Charlie Mitchell, Martha Mitchell.
• 1:10:21
  I just just turn I got it down now though, to Charlie's Matt from
• 1:10:28
  Fayettville, Tony not sure how you do it? How do you go from
• 1:10:32
  saying Oklahoma on three guys to not saying at all during the basketball game.
• 1:10:38
  Do you have to prepare for that? No clucks either, Matt from Fayable,
• 1:10:44
  No, I have zero I have zero problems not saying Oklahoma or Ohia
• 1:10:49
  or Missouri or Cincinnata never end. I'm in place. Yeah, So when
• 1:10:58
  I'm on MSN, it's serious, It's for real. It's like it's not
• 1:11:05
  quirky the clown show like we do here. I mean, it's just two
• 1:11:09
  separate universes. And that's just the way that that was handed down to me.
• 1:11:15
  I mean, I guess the best way to say it is and this
• 1:11:20
  was with Jack Fleming. And even though Jack and Woody had a ton of
• 1:11:25
  fun, like when it's on, it's serious not to say that at a
• 1:11:30
  moment there might not be a funny thing that happens during the game that you
• 1:11:34
  can make light of. But like the intent is you're delivering the game.
• 1:11:42
  The intent here is an infotainment where to inform and entertain and have fun.
• 1:11:48
  But like when it's MSN, it's the game for me and no jacking around.
• 1:11:56
  Texter, longtime listener, first time Texter. Now that we have the
• 1:12:00
  Big twelve putting in different time zones in the information, we have another problem.
• 1:12:04
  Oh jeez, can we get them not to schedule men's and women's games
• 1:12:09
  at the same time? Hard to keep track of both games. Signed by
• 1:12:12
  Lark and Payden City, a friend of Zombie, We'll have zero luck in
• 1:12:16
  getting that happen. That happens consecutively here for men and women's basketball teams,
• 1:12:21
  right now happened last night right now close to us close second half overlap on
• 1:12:28
  the women's game. But I think Saturday they play right at the same exact
• 1:12:30
  time, and then I think next week it happens again, but zero zero
• 1:12:35
  chance of stopping that Texter Tony t n I oops with a y Senator stats
• 1:12:44
  and the Dean cubed second time every time since episode one, Big listener,
• 1:12:53
  Sorry, especially hoppy Josh does not have control of this team selfish and looking
• 1:13:00
  for its own future. Is it his fault? Absolutely not. But let's
• 1:13:03
  stop making excuses and let's fix the problem. Let's believe in Ren and let
• 1:13:08
  him fix the problem. Sorry, I didn't include my name Opie from Mount
• 1:13:12
  Carbon Bonus points if you know where that is. I do not know where
• 1:13:20
  Mount Carbon is. Chances are it's unincorporated. We could probably research that and
• 1:13:26
  find out to your point about control of this team. Again, I don't
• 1:13:40
  think the circumstances surrounding this team and its roster have ever been seen before.
• 1:13:48
  There are so many different pieces to this equation which have been put together that
• 1:13:59
  it's unpressed it. I think everyone would agree that we've never seen anything situation
• 1:14:03
  like this. So is this exactly how Josh would have coached this team if
• 1:14:11
  he had his complete roster together from the beginning. No, let's go,
• 1:14:16
  we want to do a little chronology of this whole season to this point.
• 1:14:19
  Right, we started this season with seven dudes, seven dudes that were available
• 1:14:27
  to play, and then you have this influx of newcomers that come after the
• 1:14:30
  suspension for Cresa, after the double transfer waiver is fixed in court, then
• 1:14:38
  you lose Jesse Edwards. So he has not been able to take a roster
• 1:14:44
  and sit people down when he would have sat them down for not doing what
• 1:14:47
  he was asking them to do because he had no alternative. And then you
• 1:14:51
  bring another people and you've got this other thing. Now you have a new
• 1:14:56
  role. Where you were playing a lot, now you're not going to play
• 1:14:58
  as much, and the newcomers are trying to find their role, and you
• 1:15:00
  still don't have what you need size wise to compete. So, no,
• 1:15:06
  it hasn't been. Hasn't been. And is this a season? And the
• 1:15:11
  one last saying, is this a season where he coached them the way he
• 1:15:14
  would want to coach them? No, he's been having to do this.
• 1:15:16
  Put his hand on every single hole that opens, just to try to get
• 1:15:21
  the thing onto the stage to play the game and all of that. Correct.
• 1:15:27
  Add onto that, every situation that has popped up has been something that
• 1:15:30
  has popped up. There's been no ability to plan, including oh, by
• 1:15:33
  the way, the entire job, the entire job of it. You rarely
• 1:15:39
  take over as the head coach in a situation that was like that. Right
• 1:15:42
  end of April, Josh was not coaching this team as if he was the
• 1:15:45
  head coach. Correct. Suddenly in May he was June and or June,
• 1:15:50
  and then things started popping So yeah, so yeah, Like I said,
• 1:15:55
  I mean, this is a this totally unique situation. This is a crisis
• 1:16:00
  management season. That's how I look at this season. Texter. Listen to
• 1:16:08
  the radio broadcast of the Oklahoma game bleep, ESPN plus the playing of Country
• 1:16:15
  Roads at the end of the game is going to curse the Oklahoma athletic department
• 1:16:18
  for decades to come. I'm talking the kind of curse that can only be
• 1:16:24
  done by sacrificing an animal at the fifty yard line on Friday the thirteenth.
• 1:16:28
  It's going to start with the basketball program in March, extended the softball team
• 1:16:31
  this spring, and consume the football team in the fall. They don't even
• 1:16:35
  realize what the wrath they have wrought from the sports gods. I'm mostly kidding,
• 1:16:41
  but blank Oklahoma signed by JD from the southern coal fields. So for
• 1:16:47
  those of you that aren't up to speed on this real quick, the student
• 1:16:53
  section started singing Country Roads right toward the end of the game, last couple
• 1:16:56
  of minutes. Okay, that's fine, that's funny to me. Good creativity
• 1:17:00
  by the students. The fact that Oklahoma played Country Roads the John Denver version
• 1:17:08
  over its public address system at the end of the game. I thought was
• 1:17:15
  a bunch of different things. I thought it was surprising. I thought it
• 1:17:23
  was high school Harry. I thought it was just stupid. I mean,
• 1:17:30
  what in the hell does Oklahoma have to taunt West Virginia. I mean,
• 1:17:39
  like, there's never been any bad blood. We played them for twelve years.
• 1:17:44
  Heck, they've now won eight of the last nine games. I mean
• 1:17:47
  to do that. I just thought it was it was like, seriously,
• 1:17:54
  I mean, it's not Oklahoma State, it's not West Virginia. Pitt put
• 1:17:59
  West Virginia Pitts great rivalry. Sweet Caroline, you play it. It's a
• 1:18:01
  good getting, But like, where did that come from? I just thought
• 1:18:03
  it was like totally unnecessary. But whatever they say to the victor, go
• 1:18:11
  the spoils and that's that. And maybe JD is right, Maybe no,
• 1:18:15
  that will be a curse. Who knows. Good day, Tony and Brad
• 1:18:21
  and the absent hoppy Fitty from Fairmont who now lives in upstate New York.
• 1:18:28
  Catching up on your episodes, I had to write in about Charlie. He
• 1:18:30
  may be onto something with the controversy of the pronunciation of Kroger, but it's
• 1:18:35
  not about the s on the end, Oh dear Lord. When I go
• 1:18:39
  back home, when the family tags along, my kids like to see the
• 1:18:42
  different types of businesses that are in West Virginia compared to what we have in
• 1:18:45
  New York. Needless to say, I from time to time hear from the
• 1:18:47
  backseat, Dad, what is I always instantly reply, growing up with these
• 1:18:51
  businesses in places that are well branded within me. About a month ago we're
• 1:18:56
  back in West Virginia. One of the questions throws me for a loop.
• 1:18:59
  My dad are at my daughter asked, what is Kroger? She pronounced it
• 1:19:02
  like Kroger, like Roger in a k in front of it. I said,
• 1:19:06
  what are you looking at? You replies Croger store over there. For
• 1:19:10
  the life of me, I didn't know what she was referring to till I
• 1:19:13
  saw the big blue letters. I replied, well, that's a grocery store.
• 1:19:15
  It's Kroger. My sun chimes in, no, that's not right.
• 1:19:18
  It would be spelled k R O U g u e R like a rogue
• 1:19:23
  with a K in front of the first R at the end. Then my
• 1:19:27
  son told his sister just ignore him. It must be his West Virginia accent.
• 1:19:30
  You know how, you know how he worshes our clothes or likes to
• 1:19:35
  look for crayfish in the creek that runs through our backyard. There was a
• 1:19:41
  moment of silence. Then he corrected himself with a sarcastic look. Oh wait,
• 1:19:44
  I'm sorry, Dad, Crawdad's he's got a whole heavy spelling on today's
• 1:19:48
  show. Didn't see that coming. He's got a whole problem there with his
• 1:19:53
  kids. You'll have to deal with it himself. We can't help you there.
• 1:20:01
  Longtime listener, first time Texter. I'm a native West Virginia w V
• 1:20:04
  grad with a very career background. Unlike most coaches turned broadcasters, of this
• 1:20:10
  day. I am a broadcaster turned coach. Upon graduation the Pearly Isaac Reid
• 1:20:15
  School of Journalism, I became sports director. A W O A Y and
• 1:20:18
  okill. Now if you don't pronounce that o'keel, you're really not a West
• 1:20:24
  Virginia What is it today? With these pronunciations, he spelled it ok e
• 1:20:30
  e L. After five years, I went into public relations, invited to
• 1:20:33
  assist with men's basketball West Virginia Tech. Listening to the Centers Senators analytics reminds
• 1:20:41
  me of my first scout, and yes, we were allowed to scout opponents
• 1:20:44
  in person. I'm working in Charleston, I'm asked to attend a West Virginia
• 1:20:47
  State Morris Harvey game. Oh boy, this is a dated one. That's
• 1:20:50
  a good one. Reporting into our six am practice the next day, I
• 1:20:54
  told her, I told her head coach, my entire scout it was,
• 1:20:57
  they're not very good. If we play well, we'll be The coach just
• 1:21:02
  looked at me Grinn and shook his head. We proceeded to the gym where
• 1:21:04
  he delivered the following scouting report. Coach Costa says, if we play well,
• 1:21:09
  we'll beat him. So let's play well. The other assistant pulled me
• 1:21:14
  aside and said, hey, next time, it might be a good idea
• 1:21:15
  to get the starting lineup, say they play zone anything, even if you
• 1:21:19
  make it up. So I improved in that area and had had the privilege
• 1:21:23
  of coaching at several schools, including at my beloved West Virginia as part of
• 1:21:27
  the sweet sixteen women's team and again as a volunteer with Mike Carey from twenty
• 1:21:32
  ten to fifteen. In fact, I've coached so long that a practice player
• 1:21:36
  once asked me who was the most famous person I interviewed. After thinking about
• 1:21:42
  the athletes West, hot Rod, Pete Rose, Hank Aaron, I replied,
• 1:21:45
  truthfully, Bob Hope. The guy sincerely looked at me and said,
• 1:21:50
  Who's that all? True? All the best, Frank from gallly Bridge.
• 1:21:58
  Sorry for the length, Thank you in advance, have a great show.
• 1:22:00
  That's our buddy, Frank Costa. You know, Frank, Thanks Frank.
• 1:22:02
  Yeah, yeah, their first scout wasn't real good there, Frank, need
• 1:22:06
  a little bit more, Texter. Two guys in the hopster at the Capitol.
• 1:22:13
  Did my ears deceive me? Or did Oklahoma play Country Roads? At
• 1:22:15
  the end of the game, If so, they just set a high bar
• 1:22:18
  for Thanks for visiting Sweepstakes Nelson from Nova listener from episode one, but not
• 1:22:23
  so great with texts, Thank you very much, Texter listening to Country Roads.
• 1:22:28
  I walked out of the shoddy Lloyd Noble Center really pissed off. I
• 1:22:31
  think it was the first time of my entire life that John Denver's soothing voice
• 1:22:35
  didn't bring a smile to my face. I was already angry that we didn't
• 1:22:39
  rebound, only had two fast break points and dirt petty technicals from Doug.
• 1:22:43
  I don't know why, but it also irritates me that their fan base could
• 1:22:45
  be absolutely careless about basketball. Just glad we never had to go back to
• 1:22:49
  the Lloyd Noble Center. Signed by Matt and Tulsa. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:22:55
  I'm not going to get into it, but I've always did think that
• 1:22:58
  their fans do not reciate basketball. For as good as they've been, They've
• 1:23:02
  had great teams, I mean, Betsy King, Mookie Blaylock, Trey Young,
• 1:23:09
  Blake Griffin, Austin Reeves, They've had players. Yeah, they just
• 1:23:15
  don't They're not into it. I mean, if you if West Virginia was
• 1:23:17
  top fifteen in the country and thirteen and what were they thirteen and two last
• 1:23:23
  night? Three thirteen and three? What would the coliseum have been last night?
• 1:23:28
  Yeah, so they don't care. That's fine, that's football. That's
• 1:23:30
  good. Okay, we're all done. So what is it? Thursday?
• 1:23:36
  So next week we're gonna do Monday. But we're gonna do Monday, not
• 1:23:45
  that you care. It's still gonna come out on Monday, but it's going
• 1:23:47
  We're gonna take it early on Monday, and we're efforting to have a special
• 1:23:53
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• 1:24:02
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