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- 0:00Mr. Arnold, welcome back to the show. A little week hiatus there for very good reasons, but we're back.
- 0:07And a lot has happened over the last two weeks, sir. A lot has happened since I woke up this
- 0:12morning. Trump sending out true social posts, markets moving pretty aggressively this morning.
- 0:18But let's take a step back and put ourselves in your mindset, in your writer's seat. You titled
- 0:24the newsletter, the timestamp this week, Qui Bono, who benefits?
- 0:27benefiting from all this? What's happening here? Yeah. I mean, it's a question that's very much on
- 0:35my mind and I hope the minds of others over the last few weeks when you've got things like the
- 0:41snip-snap Michael Scott approach to foreign policy and how to handle what's going on in
- 0:47the Persian Gulf. It's helpful to just kind of step back and try to frame it as who's actually
- 0:53benefiting from the different ways that things are playing out or that could play out.
- 0:58And, you know, I wrote about that, tried to reason through a little bit of that in the
- 1:02timestamp this week, standing on the shoulders of people who are much smarter than me and much
- 1:06better informed. I think we can kind of get into that. But as just a table setting comment,
- 1:11it really feels like, you know, the newsletter this week was just a response to like,
- 1:15it feels very much if you're, if you're strolling the timeline, if you're watching the clips on
- 1:20meet the press or someone off Fox news, you know, your, your options for processing all this are
- 1:26basically like, you know, rah, rah, we're going to destroy the most evil regime in the world.
- 1:31And we can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon. And you're, you know, what are you not a patriot? If
- 1:35you don't want that to happen, you got that. And then you've got Trump is a complete moron. And he,
- 1:39he alone is guiding every element of foreign policy and every decision that's being made.
- 1:44And he has no plan and he's going to get us all killed. And it's, it's World War three. And so,
- 1:48you know, sell everything. And there's, there's no hope and no, no strategy at all going into this
- 1:52and those, and China's going to win everything as a result, you know, the world, the U S will
- 1:57destroy its position in the world and the China will, you know, take place. And so there's kind
- 2:00of like the, the Mark Levin approach and like the Ray Dalio approach. And that's like basically all
- 2:04that we have been given by the mainstream press. And I feel like there's a lot more nuance at play,
- 2:08which I don't pretend to be smart enough to fully reason through entirely, but that's what I was
- 2:12trying to maybe think through a little bit, you know, the newsletter this week. Yeah. No, I recorded
- 2:17with Tom Luongo late Friday night too.
- 2:20I think that's a little bit more in the middle.
- 2:22He's got a very specific theory
- 2:25that we're not going to dive into here
- 2:27if you want to listen to that
- 2:28and get a TFTC and get it.
- 2:29But I think fog of war.
- 2:32I've consistently had to remind myself
- 2:34of this over the last three, four weeks
- 2:37is try not to make any shoot from the hip decisions
- 2:41or react too emotionally to the headlines,
- 2:44the pundit talking points
- 2:46or the true social posts that come out because we're truly in the fog of war.
- 2:50And speaking of true social, I think just to make sure we're staying on at the task of the show,
- 2:55which is topical news to fill you all in on how we're reading this.
- 2:59I mean, we have true social posts from Saturday and then early this morning.
- 3:05Many people are calling this a taco and an attempt to basically suppress interest rate yields
- 3:11and the price of oil so that markets don't go too haywire.
- 3:16But essentially, going into the weekend, Trump said that Iran had 48 hours to open the strait or there would be some massive hits on their power infrastructure.
- 3:27And then early this morning, Trump came out and said there was productive talks, both directly and indirectly, with the Iranian regime over the weekend.
- 3:36A market screamed, Bitcoin screamed above 71,000. It's still holding over that level right now. Oil fell below, WTI fell below 90, $90 a barrel. And then Iran came out rather, rather quickly and said, hey, these talks did not happen. So what is your reading on this?
- 3:55Yeah. I mean, my only my only reading is that there is no reading. Right. Like I let off with this because I fought a war is exactly the right way to think about it.
- 4:02And like you'll see people on both sides of that kind of general bifurcation that laid out.
- 4:08It's like, you know, when when Trump says something that's totally credible and should be completely believed.
- 4:13And when Iran says something, they're just lying or when China comments on something, they're just lying or trying to manipulate or using propaganda tactics or whatever.
- 4:20And there are other people who think the exact opposite. Right.
- 4:22Like anything Iran says is totally correct and accurate.
- 4:25And they're the ones telling the truth.
- 4:26And Trump is just making everything up.
- 4:27And I think we should all just be in the mode of everyone is, if you're part of my French, bullshitting right now.
- 4:32It is totally to everyone's advantage in all elements of this conflict to create as much uncertainty and obfuscation as possible.
- 4:40So that should, to your point on asterisks, leave just like leave everyone with a lot of humility on what's actually happening.
- 4:45And yeah, I guess I would just say, let's try to be equally skeptical of the various posts and media reports coming out of all the different sides of this conflict.
- 4:55But that, you know, so that just frames everything up.
- 4:57The one thing that I is maybe less, maybe a good place to dig into like the meat of the newsletter is actually like a more objective data point is just the spread between WTI and Brent, Brent Crude.
- 5:09You mentioned WTI went below 90. I haven't checked Brent this morning, so I don't know where exactly the spread's shaking out today as of Trump's semi-taco or not taco, depending on how you think about it.
- 5:20But to me, this was kind of the story of the week as it relates to trying to parse through what's going on and what the actual goals are and constraints are.
- 5:29This pretty remarkable move, which may or may not be sustained.
- 5:33But I think everyone got a good reminder last week that it's easy to forget in times of relative tranquility and especially like world is flat globalization.
- 5:41But oil is not like a globally homogenous market.
- 5:45It commands different prices in different places for different grades and benchmarks.
- 5:49There are people, again, who are way smarter and more in the weeds on all the nuances of the global oil market than you or I.
- 5:56But this is just kind of a good summary chart to show that kind of violent reminder that we got.
- 6:01So WTI is a US-based benchmark mostly for consumption here domestically.
- 6:07Brent is mostly a benchmark for Europe, Middle East, and Asia.
- 6:12And unsurprisingly, the places where supply has been much more disrupted is starting to show a much greater price spike.
- 6:20If you flip to the next slide, you can see that even more clearly with the prices in the Persian Gulf.
- 6:27So the places that are most disrupted are just blowing out even beyond where Brent is.
- 6:31And I think that's interesting because as you parse through what could, to the extent that there maybe were a plan, if you entertain that argument from the United States aside, if there were a plan, you'd probably be interested in leveraging one of the U.S.'s key advantages,
- 6:48which is being an energy independent net oil exporter.
- 6:52We are currently all sitting here experiencing
- 6:56more pain at the pump than I think we would like but at the same time supply in the US is not really meaningfully at risk today Whereas there are a lot of parts of the world where that not the case where they net oil importers and they have to source a ton of oil through places like the Gulf Coast
- 7:12through the Strait of Hormuz, and it certainly applies to what's oil and LNG, so natural gas as
- 7:17well. Certainly a big issue for Europe, as we saw a few years ago with the Russia-Ukraine debacle.
- 7:22And it's a huge source that we've talked about on the show before for China and the other East
- 7:28Asian countries, you know, allies as well, Japan, Korea, Taiwan. But I think that spread is an
- 7:33interesting data point for thinking through, if you were in the driver's seat at the Pentagon,
- 7:39if you were writing the national security strategy that we've talked about in here before,
- 7:42when you were kind of sizing up, what are the US's advantages that we can push on?
- 7:46What are the buttons we could push? Probably the first one you would think of is the base energy
- 7:50input to the entire global economy, especially when several of the parties that you consider
- 7:56be your adversaries or your rivals do not have the energy independence that you do right and they
- 8:00they can be made to kind of you know be put over a barrel a little bit depending on what happens
- 8:06in the middle east in a way that you don't necessarily have to deal with so to me this
- 8:10is like as you're reasoning through what might be going on what might the administration be looking
- 8:15for and like trying to do to the extent that you want to entertain the notion that there is a plan
- 8:19i think this was a big you know flashing red signal for you know one of the the key kind of
- 8:23of asymmetries and relative leverage points that most likely the U.S. is probably thinking about.
- 8:29And if so, I think that has implications for how anyone should think about, you know, what's going
- 8:33to happen from here. Yeah. Just to give an update, because the spreads have changed,
- 8:38at least the spot spreads. So we're looking now, Brent's down around 9% today at 102.28.
- 8:44As I speak, WTI, as you can see over here, is under 90 at 89.30. So we've got like a $13
- 8:51spread here. So the spread, at least on the spot prices, has compressed. I'm sure it's similar to
- 8:56that one month spread that we had in the chart above. But this is all, again, subject to change
- 9:02on a whim, on a true social place. So be aware there. But here's where we're trading now. A lot
- 9:08of volatility in the market. And that's, again, going back to the fog of war and trying to discern,
- 9:14I think these pricing signals are probably where we're going to get the most signal is in these
- 9:18markets. And you can decide whether or not you want to listen to the pundits and listen to the
- 9:24politicians involved. I think markets are going to give you the clearest signal. And I think the
- 9:27volatility that we've experienced over the last three weeks, and more specifically over the last
- 9:32week with weekend, true social posts, with aftermarket hour sort of negotiations, whatever
- 9:37it may be, or tax. I think the volatility in the market is just pricing in this uncertainty.
- 9:41And so I think the signal that we're getting is despite any certainty that politicians or
- 9:47administration members may be posturing publicly. I think markets are still out there saying we have
- 9:54no idea exactly how this ends. And I think one thing that we may have more clarity on than
- 10:00anything else is just long-term ramifications of the destruction to the energy infrastructure
- 10:06in the Middle East and what they may have on markets in the long term. And I think,
- 10:10here's a signal here, Iran, the attack wiped out 70% of Qatar's LNG capacity for up to five years.
- 10:15Qatar Energy CEO says, reported by Reuters, I believe there was a five-year force majeure
- 10:21on some government contracts Qatar had with trading partners. And so it seems clear at this
- 10:29point that a lot of critical refinery infrastructure has been materially impacted by the war in the
- 10:37Middle East right now. And I think this is one thing that markets are beginning to price in,
- 10:42is what is the long-term ramifications of this disruption to the supply chain,
- 10:47and how do we reorient the energy industry based off of the destruction of this infrastructure?
- 10:56Yeah, for sure.
- 10:57I mean, I think this is one of the more sobering headlines from last week
- 11:02that I think people are just now still trying to process,
- 11:05that even if the conflict ended tomorrow or today and there were no more attacks
- 11:11on, you know, different elements of Gulf energy infrastructure, refining infrastructure,
- 11:16transportation infrastructure, et cetera. You know, you've already got now like a long tail
- 11:20of multiple years, perhaps up to five years, right? As Qatar is saying, disruption to significant
- 11:25elements of a significant percentage of production out of the region, right? So that there's going to
- 11:31be a lengthy cost impact to that. There's going to be a lengthy supply disruption impact to that,
- 11:36again, even if Trump is right and we're going to get a deal very, very soon. And, you know,
- 11:40I think that, again, you ask the question like, well, who does that help? Who does that hurt the
- 11:44most? Structurally, like, I think you are, you tend to think that that would hurt the, you know,
- 11:51Europe, Middle East and Asian countries the most. And, you know, it's not something that can be
- 11:55ameliorated if, if that, you know, if headlines like that, if statements like that are not just
- 11:59being sensational, you know, if, if that's actually accurate, which we don't have any reason to believe
- 12:03it's not directionally, that's a structural problem that doesn't get ameliorated whenever
- 12:07Trump decides that he wants to sign a deal or taco or whatever you want to call it.
- 12:11And I think that leads into this piece that was written by Anas al-Haji early.
- 12:18It was posted early today, but it synthesizes some of his thoughts from the last couple of weeks.
- 12:23Highly recommend giving him a follow and just checking out the link there to the substack where he summarizes all this,
- 12:29but just kind of walks through the relative leverage that either side has and the asymmetry of the impact of all the disruption
- 12:37in the Strait of Hormuz and in the Gulf, and we won't read it all here. I really recommend everyone
- 12:41go check it out. But he's positing that in a somewhat counter consensus way that I think
- 12:47has not really shown up in most mainstream discussions, that Iran does not really have
- 12:54the capacity or the interest or the incentive to close the Strait of Hormuz, and that a lot of the
- 12:59headlines that suggest that there's a blockade effectively, or that no ships can get through,
- 13:04or that they're attacking a bunch of different tankers are overdone and maybe missing key context.
- 13:10And that it's not even totally clear to hear him tell it exactly who's responsible for different threats that have been made to different ships and shippers and insurers.
- 13:19So, you know, anonymous threats from unidentified sources could easily be coming from any different side.
- 13:24And, you know, he's positing as a result that the U.S. does have potentially significant interest in being the driver here of keeping the strait disrupted and then engaging in the kabuki theater to suggest to make it seem like, you know, it's not actually our fault and it's being orchestrated by somebody else.
- 13:41Obviously, Iran is still attacking or seems to be attacking Fog of War, asterisk again, but there's still attacks on infrastructure around the Gulf, which may or may not be fully workable within this framework.
- 13:50But I just think like that kind of thinking is,
- 13:53you know, it's a, it's a, it's a 0% on the, the,
- 13:56the nodes of the, you know, this, the decision tree
- 13:58that people are thinking through right now,
- 14:00mostly in the market.
- 14:01And I think it if you look through the incentives you look through the capacities on different sides you look through what the U has explicitly said about the national security strategy and how the Strait of Hormuz aligns with the Panama Canal and Red Sea routes and Greenland and shipping routes that might be controlled or influenced by that
- 14:19and everything about that Trump has said about wanting to exert more dominance of trade flows
- 14:25and, you know, reposition the U.S. as a true industrial powerhouse again, it all kind of
- 14:31neatly lines up with what you're seeing in the straight-off-form moves. So I just think, you know,
- 14:35maybe that's not, maybe that shouldn't even be your base case, but it should be more than a 0%
- 14:38chance, right? It should be, call it 20%, 25%, whatever. And if that's the case, then you start
- 14:43to have to entertain a lot of other downstream impacts and thoughts on how the U.S. might actually
- 14:48be able to pull off the triple Wendy that they may actually be looking to do here.
- 14:54We were sharing another piece of a NOS analysis last week.
- 14:57And I think there was one thing in that particular analysis that really said, oh, this is something
- 15:02I didn't realize that the market is completely misreading.
- 15:05This was Chinese tankers making it through the straighter home years.
- 15:08And people were saying, well, Iran is basically picking Chinese oil tankers and saying, you
- 15:14guys can go through, we'll settle in Yuan.
- 15:15But Danas highlighted the reason that these Chinese ships are making it through the straits
- 15:20because they have Chinese insurance and Lloyd's London dropped the insurance of every other
- 15:24oil tanker moving through the strait.
- 15:27And so if you're not insured, you're not going to move because the risk is too high.
- 15:30Whereas the Chinese ships are using Chinese insurance.
- 15:32And so they feel that they're able to move through the strait relatively, not risk-free,
- 15:38but they're hedged with insurance.
- 15:41And so that was a signal there like, oh, maybe there is something here.
- 15:44And then to add to that and to put a put a point in the this is geopolitical 40 chess that is working in Trump's favor.
- 15:52There was a deal between the U.S. and Japan to deliver oil from from Alaska to Japan.
- 15:56And so sort of that shift of demand for for U.S. oil over oil in the Gulf.
- 16:02That's another point in that direction.
- 16:05So fog of war trying to read through the lines here.
- 16:08Those are those are two things that stuck out to me last week as well.
- 16:12But speaking of China and the idea that this is basically a proxy war to assert dominance and shift demand from other parts of the supply chain towards the United States, I think there's some interesting reactions from China's economy to this that show it does have some relative strength and leverage in this game.
- 16:32Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, there's, you kind of read this one either way, right? Like,
- 16:37there, the chatter on, you know, some of the Anas Al-Haji type points that you would see over the
- 16:43last couple of weeks on Twitter and elsewhere is like, okay, well, even if that's right, you know,
- 16:48China will just hit back by, you know, playing the rare earths game and not shipping other critical
- 16:52goods to the US. And I think it's interesting because like, that's definitely possible.
- 16:58At the same time, you're seeing already last year and then this year, this Reuters headline pointing out massive growth in Chinese exports, particularly into a lot of this is going especially into Europe, kind of diverting away from the U.S., although U.S. exports are still growing significantly.
- 17:12Um, but I think like the, it's an interesting, uh, East West interweaving where it takes
- 17:19to to tango here and yeah, China could curb exports dramatically, but the fact that, you
- 17:24know, they, they need to grow exports so dramatically over the last year.
- 17:28And especially again, into places like Europe, which you have to think there's going to be
- 17:32eventually a downstream political impact to that as Europe's existing industrial base
- 17:36gets further and further hollowed out by things like that.
- 17:38But I think that's telling you like the, this is the model for China, right?
- 17:42It is an industrial powerhouse that needs to keep shipping and producing and having the world buy its goods and running this massive finished goods trade surplus.
- 17:51And, you know, that gives them a choke point on a lot of goods.
- 17:53But the flip side is like just deciding to effectively boycott, you know, huge parts of the world as a means of, you know, cutting off, say, the U.S. and U.S. allies from finished goods that they provide is eventually becomes cutting off your nose to spite your face.
- 18:08They've got a massive issue with real estate.
- 18:10They've got banks. They've got a ton of effectively zombie banks. You can go look at great work from Alex Campbell. I think he's A.B. Campbell on Twitter. He's done a ton of deep analysis on the state of Chinese banks. The consumer is still far weaker than I think they would like the domestic consumer.
- 18:25So saying that you're going to, you know, undercut the entire driver of the country's economic model as a means of retaliating with the against the U.S. is like, yeah, it's possible.
- 18:35But again, it just comes back to a question of who's going to blink first. Right.
- 18:38Who has, in this relative leverage game, who has more leverage, who has more time to sit and wait?
- 18:43And you could argue, in many ways, China does because of that manufacturing base.
- 18:48You could also, I think, argue on the other side that they can't necessarily afford to slow that down dramatically as a means of hitting back against what the U.S. is doing,
- 18:58especially to the extent that oil continues to do what it's doing, especially asymmetrically impacting Asia.
- 19:05you know, you're getting squeezed on both sides there if you start to compress the revenue base
- 19:10and also get hit on the cost side. So yeah, I think it's just, it's not clear to me that
- 19:15either side here has the clear like knockout punch and we're very much like these Siamese twins.
- 19:19Like it's not that easy to like just separate either one. It's going to hurt both, right?
- 19:23Maybe that leads then into to take the other side of it, you know, the yield story, right? For the
- 19:28US and other Western governments. Yeah. I mean, talking about signal and markets, I think
- 19:33Many people are surmising that Trump sent out that tweet this morning because he was looking at the two-year yield going over 4%.
- 19:40And there are people behind the scenes saying this is getting rather chaotic.
- 19:44The financial system cannot sustain rates at this elevated level for too long.
- 19:50And again, fog of war, who knows exactly why he sent the tweet, but many people are saying he's looking at the yield curve and noticing it's getting a bit out of whack.
- 19:57And here we have the U.S. 10-year, which is back to levels not seen since early August of last year.
- 20:04Yeah. And, you know, we're still in a range that's like reasonably manageable historically.
- 20:09You know, we're not breaking out to multi-year highs or, you know, breaking out of like this recent channel over the last year or two.
- 20:18But you can see where, you know, the bigger picture is probably that I probably should have put on here as well as the move index, which is the treasury volatility index that measures the volatility of these yields.
- 20:27And that printed 109 on Friday night, which was the highest level since liberation day.
- 20:31So it's not even just a level, but it's also the direction of travel and the speed of that
- 20:35direction.
- 20:36And so I think that's clearly like on everyone's mind and that this is like our Achilles heel,
- 20:40right?
- 20:41The, the, the, the debt situation is not, yeah, here you go.
- 20:44Here's the move.
- 20:45The, you know, this isn't, this isn't 1975 anymore.
- 20:48That's GDP is, you know, not 30%.
- 20:50It's 125%.
- 20:52You know, we, we have, uh, as we've talked about on the show before an interest expense
- 20:57coming out of the federal government that is growing swiftly.
- 20:59And when you look at interest plus fixed entitlement payments plus military budget which we learned last week is going to grow by another billion unplanned to fight this war veterans benefits et cetera basically more or less fixed expenses We already kind of roughly on a hundred percent of tax receipts And so we can really afford to be rolling debt at much
- 21:19higher than, you know, call it a blended rate of like 4%. So like this is as it relates to relative
- 21:25leverage for the rest of the world. Yeah, this is, this is the key point to watch and keeping this
- 21:29in check is going to be, you know, you have to think one of the main constraints that the U.S.
- 21:33has. And then it's even, you know, you bring up here like the German and French 10-year bonds
- 21:40going back to levels not seen since in France's case, basically 08 and Germany back to the
- 21:46Eurozone sovereign debt crisis in 2011. So this is actually like much more notable in terms of,
- 21:52you know, historical ranges and really breaking out. And, you know, I think it's kind of like
- 21:57the classic, you know, the U.S. sneezes and the rest of the world gets a cold, you know,
- 22:00just like with kind of the oil and gas story we talked about, you know, we're uncomfortable with
- 22:04the current, the yield levels that we just talked about at kind of four, four and a half percent.
- 22:09But you're quickly, you know, ripping to levels that are much more historically notable for
- 22:14countries that are going to, like Germany, France, and the rest of the European complex,
- 22:18that are going to be hit much harder by, you know, the spike in, say, Brent crude that we
- 22:22talked about, or the lack of availability of Qatari LNG. So this is, for the West,
- 22:28broadly construed for kind of the U.S. nexus. We can debate whether Europe is in the U.S. nexus
- 22:32anymore or not, but this is the constraint to watch kind of on our side. Yeah, I mean, this would
- 22:38validate the theory that Trump's trying to break free from the World Economic Forum DABA's class,
- 22:43and I guess this is very Luongo-coded where we're trying to deflate the euro-dollar market and bring
- 22:51control of our interest rates and control over the dark dollar pools back to the United States and
- 22:57And to do that, you would need to essentially decimate European economies and their financial
- 23:03system.
- 23:03And this seems like the war in the Gulf right now is certainly putting a lot of stress on
- 23:09European treasury markets.
- 23:12And so with that, we have a couple more slides we could go through, but I'm going to pick
- 23:15one.
- 23:16Everybody's talking about the Fed.
- 23:17I think as it pertains to what we focus on Bitcoin, hard assets, neutral reserve assets
- 23:22in the digital age, we do have some signal out of the gold markets throughout all this
- 23:26chaos.
- 23:26And I think it highlights that gold is actually being used as a just true reserve asset in these times.
- 23:33Many people are expecting gold to skyrocket.
- 23:36We were talking before we hit record.
- 23:37I didn't even realize it hit right around $4,000 earlier today.
- 23:41I guess a wick down to about $4,000 currently sitting at $4,469.
- 23:47But many people are saying, hey, isn't this supposed to be a flight to safety?
- 23:50But it seems like particularly in the Middle East, as all this infrastructure is getting blown up,
- 23:54You have people leaving these countries.
- 23:57Real estate in Dubai is down something like 40% to 60%, depending on what index you look at to track that.
- 24:05It seems like these countries are needing to tap into gold reserves to actually tap into liquidity to put cement in some of these holes that are emerging.
- 24:14Yeah, I mean, it's a funny, crazy move that I think is probably not what a lot of people would have expected on an e-jerk basis.
- 24:21But, you know, it's yet another iteration of, you know, in a crisis, you sell what you can, not what you want.
- 24:27But I think it's also, and to be fair, also like gold is probably overdone.
- 24:32Big, massive recent move.
- 24:34And this is just an ugly chart.
- 24:35So probably due for, you know, a puke on just on that basis.
- 24:38But I think it's interesting because if you flip down one slide, it's showing you, I think, the beginnings of gold actually becoming more relevant again as a reserve asset to absorb trade surpluses.
- 24:53And it's kind of exactly, Michael McNair makes this point that it's kind of exactly what you would expect when these massive trade surplus economies in the Gulf kind of see their trade surpluses temporarily shrink to zero, right?
- 25:04When top line goes to zero and the bills still need to be paid across the country, the place you can tap into is the neutral reserve asset.
- 25:12But you can only do that if you've been building reserves of that asset to absorb prior trade surpluses.
- 25:18So this is kind of an unwind.
- 25:21This unwind is telling you that something has been happening over the last few years, the last decade.
- 25:26We've kind of known this anyway.
- 25:28If you look at just sovereign gold buying, right?
- 25:30If you look at most sovereigns kind of on net, not no longer buying treasuries as of, I think, 2015.
- 25:36Clearly, there's been a big move and an accelerated move in the last couple of years, especially since Liberation Day into gold to absorb trade surpluses.
- 25:43And so it's it's counterintuitively kind of like exactly the move you would expect to see if that were happening.
- 25:48Right. If if you had a bunch of people who are a bunch of countries that needed to move into gold to as a flight out of other things, then, yeah, you'd see a bid or at least a sustained price in this kind of environment.
- 25:59But this big sell off is telling you there are big trade surplus actors out there that need to tap into this because they need something to sell to cover, you know, expenses and keep the lights on.
- 26:11So that, I think, is to get to tie everything back to what we do here with Bitcoin.
- 26:16I think fundamentally, this is actually on a longer run basis, a medium term basis, pretty bullish for the hard assets as absorber of trade surplus thesis.
- 26:27As gold fulfills that role more and more, which I frankly expect it to over the next five years, 10 years, this sell off notwithstanding, that's just opening up a bigger and bigger market for neutral sovereign assets that can serve as that kind of absorption.
- 26:42And I think that only just primes the pump further and further for eventually meaningful actors around the world to understand and act on Bitcoin's relative value proposition relative to gold.
- 26:54Yes, and we'll end it with this. And again, fog of war before I share the screen and show the tweet. I think this is a newly appointed part of the Iranian regime as they're trying to re-architect their administration or their high levels of power as the war decimates the IRGC.
- 27:11And he came out and tweeted last night, I believe, alongside military bases. Those financial entities that finance the U.S. military budget are legitimate targets. U.S. Treasury bonds are soaked in Iranians' blood. Purchase them and you purchase a strike on your HQ and assets. We monitor your portfolios. This is your final notice.
- 27:29And so obviously some very, very strong rhetoric here from MB Golubiff.
- 27:35But I think it highlights that whether or not people truly react to this specifically, I think it does highlight some some truth where the global reserve asset, the world being U.S.
- 27:47Treasuries does come with increased political risks, especially today.
- 27:52And the case for a neutral reserve asset, whether it be gold or Bitcoin, is only getting stronger by the minute here as this war continues to wage on.
- 28:01Co-sign once again.
- 28:02We'll be back next week.