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Happy Hour #205: Empathy in Gaming · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to stuff I've never told your prodiction of iHeart radio.
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Speaker 1: And welcome to another edition of Happy Hour where I
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Speaker 1: just ponder things. Any we're gonna ponder together.
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Speaker 2: That's exciting.
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Speaker 1: I you know, when we ponder, I phil like we
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Speaker 1: make some good discoveries, maybe try to help all the issues,
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Speaker 1: fix some things, and we're like, hey, this is what
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Speaker 1: we can do. Do this people's and life will be better.
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Speaker 2: We try.
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Speaker 1: I hope that becomes that as I look far from
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Speaker 1: into the distance. Anyway. Yes, we are doing this as
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Speaker 1: a Happy Hour episode, so as it indicates if you're
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Speaker 1: doing anything happy hour ish, please do so responsibly. Also,
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Speaker 1: we are not being sponsored by any of the content
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, or programs or games or any of
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Speaker 1: the such. It would be interesting if we were ever
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Speaker 1: sponsored by something like the things that we talk about,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't it In this episode? In this episode specific all
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Speaker 1: about to say Annie, are you doing anything happy hour ish?
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Speaker 2: Yes, still working through my mom's supply of wine. It
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Speaker 2: lasted me through the ice and now there might be
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Speaker 2: more snow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So they say, I don't know. It's one of
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Speaker 1: those things where when they tell us that this bad
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Speaker 1: thing is happening, or like the snow weatherwise, we get prepared,
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Speaker 1: Like Georgia wasn't a full blown panic. Bread was gone,
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Speaker 1: Milk was gone. I don't know what you're all gonna
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Speaker 1: do with milk, and the refrigerator of the power goes out,
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Speaker 1: but you do you. Eggs were gone except for the
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Speaker 1: ones people are are boycotting, which was also funny to
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Speaker 1: see y'all of that. People were in painting mode and
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Speaker 1: then nothing. We dig get some icicles and a lot
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Speaker 1: of wetness, but immediately dried because of all the winds
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Speaker 1: that happened. The wind was intense. I will say that, yes,
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Speaker 1: the wind was intense. Yeah, but with that, if they
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Speaker 1: didn't prepare, which they've done before, we've been like it's
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Speaker 1: not a big deal, and then like, oh, I don't know,
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Speaker 1: ice pocalypse happened. We were like, oh my god. And
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Speaker 1: people were stuck in the card for twenty four hours
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Speaker 1: because people didn't let people go. It was a chaos.
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Speaker 1: So it's one of those things of like we would
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Speaker 1: rather be prepared and look dumb than not be prepared
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Speaker 1: and be stuck.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was in my car for fourteen hours.
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Speaker 2: I have not forgotten what So one of the things.
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Speaker 1: I will brag about till I die was knowing how
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Speaker 1: bad the weather was gonna be before it happened, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, nope, I'm out. Like I literally looked at
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Speaker 1: my boss and I was like, I'm an hour away
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Speaker 1: from here. I'm leaving, Like I just say. He was
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Speaker 1: like what. I was like, I don't play with snow.
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Speaker 1: I'm from LJ, which did ice a lot, and any
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Speaker 1: snow happened, it happened there, and I think actually they
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Speaker 1: missed out on this time too for some reason. South Georgia, Hello,
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Speaker 1: climate change got a lot more snow this year than
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Speaker 1: we had thus far. But yeah, I was like, I
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Speaker 1: don't play with ice, Like we're we're not doing this.
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Speaker 1: So I immediately left. And I was like, this job
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Speaker 1: is not worth me being stuck here. You ain't getting me.
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Speaker 1: So I immediately left the moment I saw it and
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Speaker 1: heard it, and when I got there, everything started shutting down,
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Speaker 1: and I was like see And I went and got
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Speaker 1: to my little neighborhood grocery store with my wine and popcorn,
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Speaker 1: and I was pretty happy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah you were smart, Yeah, yeah you're right. To bragger
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Speaker 2: about it. It was a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: It's one of those things that I it was not again,
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Speaker 1: this job was not worth me being stuck. Yet, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they did not care about me. They were very, very
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Speaker 1: obvious about the fact that the job did not care
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Speaker 1: about me. I worked for the government, and so I
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Speaker 1: was like, I'm not sacrificing my car and myself time
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Speaker 1: for things that that can be preventable.
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Speaker 2: Now, see, this is my concern now. It's that I
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Speaker 2: haven't gone to the grocery store since before last weekend,
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Speaker 2: which was when the icing happened. And if the snow
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Speaker 2: does come yes Saturday, then I really need to go
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Speaker 2: to the grocery store tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Right, don't get casual, because I feel like this is
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Speaker 1: when things go wrong.
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Speaker 2: Yeah oh yeah, And like you said, people panic by
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Speaker 2: even if nothing happens, So who knows how much will
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Speaker 2: even be there. So I didn't know it was going
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Speaker 2: to snow maybe snow until this morning, or I would
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Speaker 2: have gone already.
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Speaker 1: Really, Oh Annie, all right, I guess the start saying
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Speaker 1: a new weather. Here's the other part to this. Though.
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Speaker 1: We know that the government has dismantled a lot of
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Speaker 1: the programs when it concerns weather and climate change, So
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Speaker 1: no wonder we're getting confused data. Just to put that
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Speaker 1: out there, because you know, everything is so anyway, back
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Speaker 1: to doing some more like let's hope for change, let's
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Speaker 1: look at how we can make things change, because the
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Speaker 1: world is awful and I think I'm slipping deeper into
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Speaker 1: my sad depression. So with that, Annie, I thought, by
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Speaker 1: the way, I'm drinking tea, this is the weather. My
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Speaker 1: happy hour choice that I jumped into was I've been
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Speaker 1: drinking some tea lately with like good little honey creamers
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Speaker 1: whatever whatnot. This time I used my satrone. Which have
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Speaker 1: you used satrone yet?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 1: I have. Do you like it?
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Speaker 2: I did like it.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it didn't cause anything because there's no tea in it,
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Speaker 1: but it didn't cause any reaction night. So listeners, if
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Speaker 1: you are allergic to tea and you want something warm
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Speaker 1: and delicious that helps them feel soothing, and it's actually
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Speaker 1: one of those things like the home remedies of a
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Speaker 1: lot of Asian communities, satrone tea that you can find
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Speaker 1: at many grocery store, which I think it's becoming more
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Speaker 1: and more popular now you can. I think I found
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Speaker 1: a giant jar at Costco not as sponsor was again,
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Speaker 1: but I wish they will sponsor us. We really like you, Costco.
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Speaker 1: I love you give me money. Moving on. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: so it's a true it's for the win, but I
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Speaker 1: like to add it to all my teas because it does.
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Speaker 1: It is delicious, and that's what I'm doing right now
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Speaker 1: because it is very cold and the coldness makes me unhappy.
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Speaker 1: But warm tea, the warm team makes me very happy.
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Speaker 1: So you know, Owen's a win. But today what I
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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about a little bit was the fact
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Speaker 1: that I think, and we've talked about this a lot recently,
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Speaker 1: especially because we were talking about gaming and what kind
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Speaker 1: of benefits you can get from gaming. We've talked about
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Speaker 1: the cozy gaming and how it can help so many
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Speaker 1: people relaxation wise, community wise, just doing something engaging. It
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Speaker 1: helps your mind to exercise as well, because if you
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Speaker 1: do good puzzle stuff, or if you are like me
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Speaker 1: who get caught up in the games like Oxen Free,
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Speaker 1: which we just talked about, get obsessive and cheat a
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Speaker 1: little bit.
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Speaker 2: It's not cheating, is.
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Speaker 1: It not cheating? I played it through so many times
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Speaker 1: that I've not not progressed really well. So I'm like,
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Speaker 1: oh no, I need some help now.
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Speaker 2: I'm a big walk through person. You only have a
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Speaker 2: limited amount of time if you want to play a
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Speaker 2: game and make sure you haven't missed something and you've
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Speaker 2: already done it enough. I'm a big fan. Yeah. I
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Speaker 2: used to live by that when I was playing Silent
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Speaker 2: Hill as a kid and my friend Katie, she'd be
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Speaker 2: like my woman in the chair and she'd be like,
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Speaker 2: jump on the subway and I'll do it. One time
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Speaker 2: she did lie and I died immediately left very hard.
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Speaker 2: But no, I think that it's a legitimate Okay, good.
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Speaker 1: Well with all of that, I've become really fascinated with
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Speaker 1: my partner playing a specific game, Arc Raiders. It is big.
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Speaker 1: It is huge. It has been around for a couple
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Speaker 1: of years, a year or so, I don't know. It's
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Speaker 1: been a loung enough that people have caught onto it.
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Speaker 1: Twitters and streamers have used this game as their platform.
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Speaker 1: Are making huge progress and a lot of money and
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Speaker 1: a lot of content with this game alone. And it's
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Speaker 1: quite funny because I know really very little, especially when
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Speaker 1: it comes to like PC gaming, about this narrative, like
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Speaker 1: it throws me off because I can't figure out how
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Speaker 1: people use what I use for work only or schoolwork
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Speaker 1: or research only as a gaming base. So I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what's happening. What's happening? Because I did not know up
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Speaker 1: until probably ten years ago gaming was for PC. I
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Speaker 1: was thoroughly confused when I watched people play games at
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Speaker 1: their computer and I was like, what are you playing Solitaire?
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Speaker 1: Is that what we're doing? So for me, this world
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Speaker 1: was fairly new, and I was like, okay, And that's
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Speaker 1: what I think many people picture both gaming industries in
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Speaker 1: that the PC when we say gamers, whether the PC
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Speaker 1: world or like PlayStation and all that. I really thought
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Speaker 1: it was just PlayStation in Nintendo because my brother's never
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Speaker 1: played on PCs. So this was fascinating. Again, you know,
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Speaker 1: we grew up in the era of it up and coming.
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Speaker 1: I'm really old. Take a moment in silence for my age.
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Speaker 1: So him playing his game is quite fascinating because I
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Speaker 1: hear again he's in a different room on a different floor,
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Speaker 1: and I can hear him talking on his headsets, and
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Speaker 1: I do make goofy jokes about oh, you're talking to
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Speaker 1: your internet friends. I'm so glad you have internet friends.
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Speaker 1: Are you meeting up with your internet friends today and
9:45
Speaker 1: sounds ominous, but it's you know, it's just a little
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Speaker 1: little poking, not not too much. But some of the
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Speaker 1: things that I really I hear from him are some
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Speaker 1: of the most wholesome things that I think I've ever
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Speaker 1: heard in games. So in my mind when PC g
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Speaker 1: come to mind, I think a Call of Duty. I
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Speaker 1: know that's one of those big games, and all you
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Speaker 1: do is team up together and kill people. That's I'm sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm just putting that in very like loose generics, and
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Speaker 1: people are gonna be like, no, that's not what that is.
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Speaker 1: Don't come at me. I'm just say that's what I
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Speaker 1: know of it. You just hear people shooting. There's a
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Speaker 1: whole clip in the office in which they do this
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Speaker 1: as a team exercise, and they get really loud and
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Speaker 1: volatile about like how did you not kill that person?
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Speaker 1: Type of narrative. That's what I imagine for PC gaming. But
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Speaker 1: when I'm listening to my partner playing these games, they're
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Speaker 1: all both either screaming. This is the line I hear
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Speaker 1: from him often is does anybody have a defibrillator? Or
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Speaker 1: I have a defibrillator? I got you man? Or do
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Speaker 1: anybody want to trade? Does anybody want to trade these things?
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Speaker 1: So these are the lines that I hear often. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what is what is happening? What is happening? And then
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Speaker 1: also are you friendly? Are you friendly? I'm friendly? Don't
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Speaker 1: kill me like this is This is the back and forth.
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Speaker 1: And as he's talking more and more about this game,
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Speaker 1: he gets really excited. He comes and tells me what
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Speaker 1: hate's done, and these are the things that you can do,
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Speaker 1: and these are the weapons that you can get. It
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Speaker 1: has become some of the most wholesome interactions that I've
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Speaker 1: ever heard between him talking to each other about helping
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Speaker 1: each other up and doing this one mission, trading with
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Speaker 1: each other so they can finish a mission, teaming up
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Speaker 1: together to go for the boss, whatever whatnot. It is
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Speaker 1: something that I'm like, Wow, this is really endearing. And
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Speaker 1: the more I talk with him he has sent me
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Speaker 1: some content, the more I see like this is a
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Speaker 1: whole thing. And there was an article recently. I don't
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Speaker 1: have it upbadingy, I'm gonna talk about it, but they
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Speaker 1: talk about the fact that more people are getting together
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Speaker 1: in like rooms or dens or so just to hang out,
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Speaker 1: and some of them come together because they have different
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Speaker 1: types of musical instruments that when they come together, it
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Speaker 1: plays these whole songs together.
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Speaker 2: Any wow, okay, Okay.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just I was just like, man, this could
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Speaker 1: really be an interesting look about our conversation about the
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Speaker 1: male loneliest epidemic because unfortunately, just like any other game,
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Speaker 1: this game seemed to be more geared towards men when
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Speaker 1: we look at who is more interested about it. I
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Speaker 1: think it originally came as a person versus person game
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Speaker 1: and then it went to person versus machines. I don't
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Speaker 1: think that's how they call it. Ya. So all those
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Speaker 1: things are things. But like as more and more people
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Speaker 1: come through, they realize they don't want this as in fact,
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Speaker 1: the gaming company has figured this out to the point
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Speaker 1: that they build on that. As we were talking about
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Speaker 1: Oxen forre you building on those type of choices. They
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Speaker 1: also build on that. So the more empathetic you are,
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Speaker 1: the more likely that you will be grouped up with
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Speaker 1: others who are just as empathetic. Now, don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: there are those that they call rats who just come
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Speaker 1: in as snipe people. Yeah, there's always some bad characters
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Speaker 1: We know this when I hear my partner talking to
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Speaker 1: the rats the way he talks to them, he's so
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Speaker 1: disappointed in them, Like it is not like they don't
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Speaker 1: he doesn't get angry, which I should say probably means
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Speaker 1: the whole different thing for him as a green flag,
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Speaker 1: that he's not necessarily angry about it, but he's just
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Speaker 1: more disappointed. And he does call him a dick, like,
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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, he will name Paul, but it's
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Speaker 1: all with disappointment and like there was one interaction in
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Speaker 1: which he that must have been like multiple people. But
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Speaker 1: this is what I'm hearing, y'all. I hear I'm a
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Speaker 1: friendly I'm a friendly dick. You try to kill me?
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Speaker 1: Does anybody have a depibrillator? A person comes over or
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Speaker 1: with another person with defibrillator gets him up, but then
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Speaker 1: they shot him, and so my partner revives them, and
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Speaker 1: then they figured out who the rat was and I
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Speaker 1: think my partner ended up shooting him. This sounds of graphic,
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Speaker 1: but it's not. But you get the choice of finishing
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Speaker 1: them off or not. And my partner goes, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: he's the one that shot you. So you make the choice.
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Speaker 1: You make this choice. I'll leave it up to you
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Speaker 1: to the other dude, and the other dude's like, nah,
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Speaker 1: we're just gonna let him lay here, and like, I
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Speaker 1: think eventually, if you don't get the help or the
14:33
Speaker 1: assistance of someone else, then you just you know, your
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Speaker 1: player dies. And so they're like, Okay, that's your choice,
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Speaker 1: Like they walk away, Oh wow, and they were like,
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Speaker 1: it is again, this is one of the most wholesome iterations.
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Speaker 1: And then they're like, well, good playing with you, man, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: good luck to you. And then they like go off.
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Speaker 1: So but that's the type of interaction that I'm hearing
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Speaker 1: from him, and it's not again, it's not just him,
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Speaker 1: it is so many in the community. There was one
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Speaker 1: where they go to an area where they can just
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Speaker 1: zipline and just knock each other off for fun. But
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Speaker 1: that's that's the entirety of the thing. They're not trying
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Speaker 1: to kill each other, they're just hanging out. It's the
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Speaker 1: most wholesome thing. There was another clip of a streamer
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Speaker 1: where a woman was singing as she walks in, so
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Speaker 1: it was a woman player all love that, and someone
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Speaker 1: jumps up and joins her singing. They both scream and
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Speaker 1: he's like I enjoyed just singing and really just runs
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Speaker 1: off like that's the entirety of Like, of course you're
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Speaker 1: trying to find things, you're trying to defeat things, you're
15:36
Speaker 1: trying to get to the next level. But it's such
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Speaker 1: wholesome content. Them'm like, what, I don't know. I've been
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Speaker 1: with my partner for seven years now and I've heard
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Speaker 1: him play a lot of games. This is the first
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Speaker 1: time that I've seen this type of interaction in a
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Speaker 1: game that's all strangers. Again, I will say this, I'm
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Speaker 1: just an and I know this is so far off
16:02
Speaker 1: that we've talked about. How Like, when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the malowliness epidemic, even though the women are not the
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Speaker 1: cause of it, the women are the ones that feels
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Speaker 1: a lot of the repercussions of it, whether it's the
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Speaker 1: violence that happens because of in cell ideals, or whether
16:19
Speaker 1: it's the lashing out in general and being told that
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't have the rights like politically, like we see
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Speaker 1: the overall damage that it caused. We also understand that
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Speaker 1: men stereotypically but like statistically, do not emote, or have
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Speaker 1: conversations or have moments of like empathy and calm and
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Speaker 1: just kindness, oftentimes with each other if it doesn't involve
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Speaker 1: something mainly. Don't get me wrong, I guess in this scenario, yes,
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Speaker 1: it seems like video gaming it is considered mainly, which
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Speaker 1: is unfortunate because it's not It shouldn't be, but in
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Speaker 1: this scenario it is seen that way. But the thing
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Speaker 1: that surprises me is in a time where we see
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Speaker 1: such harshness and such violence, they're taking the opportunity to
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Speaker 1: choose to be the nicer versions of themselves.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, I mean, especially like going back
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Speaker 2: to what you were saying, I've done a lot of
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Speaker 2: PC gaming in my time, but usually I associate it
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Speaker 2: with like there's a reason I don't play with strangers online.
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Speaker 2: So it's nice to hear that that is happening. But
17:37
Speaker 2: it's also because it kind of reminds me of what
17:39
Speaker 2: we were talking about with when we had Doctor Bathon
17:42
Speaker 2: recently to talk about trans athletes, and we had that
17:44
Speaker 2: conversation about kind of the toxic masculinity in the locker
17:48
Speaker 2: room and how it's actually like really hurting boys. And
17:53
Speaker 2: one conversation we've had before on this show is that
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Speaker 2: a lot of games that are designed by women do
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Speaker 2: have a lot of a lot more of that type
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Speaker 2: of interaction of like not necessarily violence, like you know,
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Speaker 2: more calm, more friendly. And I feel like since feminine
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Speaker 2: traits are so have for so long been looked down on,
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Speaker 2: it's really nice to see that transition outside of just oh,
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Speaker 2: that's how women gamers are, because it is healthy and
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Speaker 2: it is nice.
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Speaker 1: So there is an article written by somemerver singh I
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Speaker 1: really so hope I said that right. This was written
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Speaker 1: in November of last year, twenty twenty five, and it's
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Speaker 1: titled Arcreator's community is the best in the gaming right
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Speaker 1: now and then that he says, but there's a catch,
18:55
Speaker 1: but I wanted to read this part. He says that
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Speaker 1: art Graders specifically was created to be PvP ve so
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Speaker 1: like you can do all those things, and in this game,
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Speaker 1: the arcs were the real enemy, but still had the
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Speaker 1: options to take each other's stuff essentially, and he says
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Speaker 1: art Graders, while being an online multiplayer shooter, still feels
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Speaker 1: more it's like a quiet social experiment about how it's
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Speaker 1: actually working, like what is working, And he says there
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Speaker 1: are streamers who could have gone the sweaty PvP route.
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Speaker 1: Some have and they and the more power to them,
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Speaker 1: but instead they've leaned into wholesome chaos. It's genuinely refreshing
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Speaker 1: to see popular content creators who thrive on viewership's post
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Speaker 1: clips about trust building rather than kill streaks. The proximity
19:48
Speaker 1: chat feature in the Arts Raider is perhaps its best feature,
19:51
Speaker 1: and again my partner was like, yes, this is He
19:54
Speaker 1: was explaining to me how this is great because it
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Speaker 1: becomes its own kind of theater, providing hilarious and sometimes
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Speaker 1: heartfelt encounters That to me is the power of design
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Speaker 1: that rewards empathy. The games most viral clips aren't about dominance,
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Speaker 1: but rather about players coming together to work towards a
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Speaker 1: common goal or just to exchange jokes. Clearly and Bark
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Speaker 1: has done something right the creators, because I hear someone
20:18
Speaker 1: say the phrase it's us against the clinkersman at least
20:21
Speaker 1: twice every day while playing this game. It is interesting
20:25
Speaker 1: because my again, my partner met to random gamers and
20:30
Speaker 1: he thinks they're both in the UK, and they set
20:33
Speaker 1: up times to go do quests together. I have again
20:37
Speaker 1: heard them come together just to sing and just to
20:40
Speaker 1: like and they sit there listening to the singing and
20:44
Speaker 1: praising them for what they can do. There was one
20:47
Speaker 1: clip of the and it was titled the Nicest Gamer Ever.
20:52
Speaker 1: And he just says, there's a guide people and help
20:54
Speaker 1: them around in different locations to get whatever quest is helping.
20:59
Speaker 1: And my partner, actually this send me a TikTok and
21:01
Speaker 1: it's from mister Coffee, who is a woman gamer. You
21:05
Speaker 1: know who this is, you're not in your head. I've
21:07
Speaker 1: heard of them, yeah, okay, okay, And she talks about
21:11
Speaker 1: having meeting women and specifically Arc Raiders and how it's
21:16
Speaker 1: the best. And I see people like commenting throughout about
21:20
Speaker 1: in the different women gamers and I love this about
21:24
Speaker 1: how their interactions have been so fun. And then one
21:27
Speaker 1: of them was like every time I see a girl,
21:29
Speaker 1: I'm like, heck, yeah, let's get together. But then there's
21:31
Speaker 1: so many dudes on here who have actually said I
21:34
Speaker 1: love this. I love that this is what this game
21:37
Speaker 1: is about. Like I have seen so many great comments,
21:40
Speaker 1: even from the men, which is rare. Let's be honest,
21:44
Speaker 1: which is rare. Like one dude says, a girl snuck
21:47
Speaker 1: up on me in a burried city the other day
21:49
Speaker 1: and persuaded me into a rubber ducky trade in a
21:51
Speaker 1: dark alley like it's like the experiences earlier, and then
21:55
Speaker 1: this one says, I thought you were going to start blasting.
21:57
Speaker 1: This was beautifully wholesome. And it is this interaction between
22:01
Speaker 1: the women getting each other goods, finding each other goods,
22:04
Speaker 1: and helping with each other that says, as a dude,
22:06
Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all found you a little comfort and experience
22:09
Speaker 1: some fun in the game. Games are for everyone. Video
22:12
Speaker 1: games are the best way to chill and meet some
22:13
Speaker 1: kindred spirits. And then it's just all these things and
22:18
Speaker 1: I love seeing these comments like these encouragement one woman
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Speaker 1: game reput I'm crying. We really are just girls trying
22:24
Speaker 1: to make our way in a male dominated industry. I
22:27
Speaker 1: love being a girl. So like, there's so many aspects
22:30
Speaker 1: to this. Again, I know nothing about this company. Really,
22:35
Speaker 1: I know again about the game because of my partner,
22:38
Speaker 1: But the interactions that I continue to see, it feels
22:42
Speaker 1: so nice to see that the winning part to this
22:48
Speaker 1: type of game is more welcoming, more empathy and just fun.
22:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need more. Yeah, it's just nice. It's just nice, nice,
23:01
Speaker 2: and it's it's I'm very happy to hear that people
23:05
Speaker 2: are having that experience because it is so fun. That
23:07
Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of when you have a really
23:09
Speaker 2: good D and D crew. Yeah, because D and D
23:12
Speaker 2: can be very, very toxic. But when you find like
23:14
Speaker 2: your good crew, then you do have very silly like yeah,
23:20
Speaker 2: here's my rubber duck in a dark cat like you
23:21
Speaker 2: have these interactions that are so funny and cute, and
23:25
Speaker 2: then you know, maybe you meet up with that person
23:28
Speaker 2: again digitally or not. But it was nice. It was
23:33
Speaker 2: a good experience for you both. And it's a funny.
23:35
Speaker 1: Story, right exactly. And it seems like that's more of
23:38
Speaker 1: the case than not when it comes to this game. Again,
23:41
Speaker 1: it could just be my FYP. There are some content
23:44
Speaker 1: creators who loves chaos, and apparently one big, big, huge
23:48
Speaker 1: and he has made his fame off this game, I believe.
23:50
Speaker 1: But his whole thing is to almost kill people bring
23:54
Speaker 1: them back and because he knows he's famous enough that
23:56
Speaker 1: they're going to help him get more stuff. You know.
24:01
Speaker 1: Sure that works too, I guess. But all of the
24:06
Speaker 1: thing is like, it's nice to see and again, what
24:10
Speaker 1: feels like such a hostile timing that in pretend in
24:15
Speaker 1: games people are making better choices again, and this is
24:19
Speaker 1: supposed to be an into the world like scenario this game,
24:25
Speaker 1: so it's nice to see. I feel like it almost
24:27
Speaker 1: makes me want to play the game just to have
24:29
Speaker 1: the interactions. But I'm not good, so I would just
24:32
Speaker 1: frustrate myself and everyone with me. I think I would
24:34
Speaker 1: just die. You get you definitely die if you fall
24:38
Speaker 1: of me. So I think so, and I feel like
24:43
Speaker 1: I need to enlist you into playing once or twice.
24:46
Speaker 1: There is also a voice modifier, so you can change
24:50
Speaker 1: your voice to be a woman or a man. Oh yeah,
24:53
Speaker 1: from what I understand.
24:55
Speaker 2: I've never done the voice thing. I've done the like typing.
24:58
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
25:01
Speaker 2: Maybe I've got the headphones, I got the.
25:02
Speaker 1: Little we need to get you in one time. Well,
25:05
Speaker 1: have you and my partner go through a game, just
25:08
Speaker 1: so you can tell us what you experienced, because I
25:10
Speaker 1: don't know this from firsthand, and my partner is a man,
25:14
Speaker 1: so his interactions are probably gonna be different. So and again,
25:18
Speaker 1: since I'm not good at games in general, I think
25:21
Speaker 1: I would just end up being hated and murdered all
25:24
Speaker 1: the time.
25:25
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully it's a nice community, because that's kind of
25:28
Speaker 2: the problem with with like what you The example you
25:31
Speaker 2: brought up with the office is that Jim was so bad. Yeah,
25:34
Speaker 2: and he kept dying repeatedly and people would get mad
25:38
Speaker 2: at him or yell at him, or hopefully in a
25:41
Speaker 2: nice experience, you know, people would be like, it's okay,
25:45
Speaker 2: so come on, you can do this.
25:48
Speaker 1: Well, Annie, I'm this is another one. I'm putting you
25:50
Speaker 1: in as an list thing, like I'm gonna need you
25:51
Speaker 1: to try one time and tell me about it.
25:55
Speaker 2: I have no idea what this game is. I never
25:57
Speaker 2: heard of it until you brought it up. I don't
25:59
Speaker 2: know the plot is. I don't have no idea. So
26:01
Speaker 2: that'll be fun.
26:03
Speaker 1: Should they we're going to set it at the time.
26:07
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Well, I really appreciate you bringing this topic.
26:11
Speaker 2: I thought it was really interesting because I hadn't heard
26:13
Speaker 2: about this and it makes me happy. It does.
26:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it will come as an episode about like
26:17
Speaker 1: better healthy games that we see, so that we can
26:20
Speaker 1: focus on the good and highlight those. We'll see.
26:24
Speaker 2: Yes, we will see. And if you did listen to
26:27
Speaker 2: our recent update on Cozy Gaming. At the end, we
26:31
Speaker 2: asked for recommendations. Some of you have already sent some
26:35
Speaker 2: so thank you so much. But yeah, if you have
26:38
Speaker 2: any gaming recommendations or gaming thoughts or topics you would
26:42
Speaker 2: like for us to cover, I think we should come
26:45
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26:48
Speaker 2: and what's going on there.
26:50
Speaker 1: Ah.
26:51
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