Latest / Foul Territory / Padres pick Craig Stammen as manager, Giants hire Bochy & Tingler, Phillies keep Alvarado

Transcript

Padres pick Craig Stammen as manager, Giants hire Bochy & Tingler, Phillies keep Alvarado · Foul Territory

0:04
Speaker 1: A couple of crazy things from earlier today before we
0:07
Speaker 1: dive into some breaking news. I hosted Fair Territory today
0:12
Speaker 1: with Ken Rosenthal. It was a blast. I got to
0:14
Speaker 1: do my first ever dude in Dork of the Week.
0:18
Speaker 2: Who did you choose?
0:19
Speaker 1: Dude was Kirby Eights, Okay, dork was Jim Murray. Both
0:25
Speaker 1: very very deserving of their awards. But two things that
0:31
Speaker 1: stood out from that. One is it's just weird. We
0:33
Speaker 1: were doing five intriguing teams to follow this offseason and
0:37
Speaker 1: we're talking Padres and then I looked down on my
0:40
Speaker 1: phone because grilan Ken was going to be next, so
0:41
Speaker 1: I was starting to look to see what grilan Ken
0:44
Speaker 1: questions there were and then it was like breaking Padres,
0:46
Speaker 1: higher cruigs, Noam, and I was like, that's weird. And
0:48
Speaker 1: number two, this is for a j Ken at the
0:52
Speaker 1: top of the show called me Emperor and wanted you
0:55
Speaker 1: to know that. He was like, I'm on with the
0:58
Speaker 1: Emperor of Foul Territory. Sorry, Emperor, that was the word
1:02
Speaker 1: to use. I was like, hey, you try to be humble,
1:04
Speaker 1: so I'm not going to use that, but I will
1:08
Speaker 1: use that just in my later show. And he said,
1:10
Speaker 1: please do.
1:12
Speaker 2: Ken must be really looking for a leader. He's really
1:16
Speaker 2: searching far and wide for a leader for him. But wow, yeah, wow, Ken, Ken,
1:23
Speaker 2: you need to quit text me.
1:25
Speaker 1: I told him to come up with a better name
1:28
Speaker 1: for you and something for you. Maybe by the next
1:31
Speaker 1: time we have him, which I.
1:32
Speaker 2: Believe is tomorrow tomorrow, he can come up with something
1:36
Speaker 2: for me. Tomorrow.
1:37
Speaker 1: It'll be easy for him to come up with something
1:38
Speaker 1: tomorrow because you won't have a response. You'll have to
1:40
Speaker 1: wait till Monday. So anyway, off season means a little
1:44
Speaker 1: more back.
1:44
Speaker 2: Way till he gets to Orlando for the Winter Meetings.
1:46
Speaker 2: I'm going to pick him up and put him in
1:48
Speaker 2: my pocket and carry him around for a few days.
1:50
Speaker 2: We need will be my number two.
1:54
Speaker 1: At some point we need to talk about Winter meetings
1:57
Speaker 1: like a guide to Orlando for everybody coming to the
2:00
Speaker 1: Winter Meetings. That might be your favorite segment ever a month.
2:06
Speaker 2: I know. But the problem is where they're stay. There's
2:08
Speaker 2: not much around there.
2:09
Speaker 1: We have to use your car, drive around, taking cheating.
2:13
Speaker 2: You need ubers because it's not really around much.
2:15
Speaker 1: Okay, just for some context, since I've got the New
2:17
Speaker 1: York City and Orlando balance, going two blocks on any
2:21
Speaker 1: ride share service in New York is equivalent to like
2:24
Speaker 1: a thirty minute ride in Orlando, just to give contact
2:27
Speaker 1: how easy it is to grab a car and spend
2:29
Speaker 1: twenty bucks or whatever to go somewhere versus New York
2:33
Speaker 1: two blocks traffic, you get out, you're like, actually, I
2:35
Speaker 1: could have walked.
2:35
Speaker 2: But the problem is where I think, said JW. Marriott,
2:38
Speaker 2: And is that where it is? I think it's at
2:40
Speaker 2: check the Hotel, which is one of the great hilarious
2:44
Speaker 2: things of all time about Orlando and Disney World. So
2:47
Speaker 2: Disney World has this massive property right hundreds of thousands
2:50
Speaker 2: of acres. Well, there was a guy back in the
2:52
Speaker 2: day that heard that Walt Disney was going to build
2:55
Speaker 2: disney World here, and he hated Walt Disney. So he
2:58
Speaker 2: bought a bunch of acres right in the middle of
3:00
Speaker 2: his plot first, and he has it where you can
3:03
Speaker 2: never build and never be sold to Disney. So in
3:05
Speaker 2: the middle of this big, gigantic expanse of Disney World,
3:09
Speaker 2: there's a circle it's called Bonnet Creek, and there's like
3:12
Speaker 2: a Waldorf, there's a JW. Maria, and there's another hotel,
3:15
Speaker 2: and they're not part of Disney but they're in the
3:17
Speaker 2: middle of Disney property and they can't ever be owned
3:20
Speaker 2: by Disney. It was like the biggest fu to Walt
3:22
Speaker 2: Disney of all the time. He literally has his giant
3:24
Speaker 2: property in the middle of the golf course, you know,
3:27
Speaker 2: multiple hotels, all this stuff, and it's right there in
3:29
Speaker 2: the middle. And that's where I think the winter meetings are.
3:32
Speaker 2: And then to get anywhere you have to go out. Yeah,
3:36
Speaker 2: out out.
3:36
Speaker 1: There's a rooftop restaurant where I've been a couple of times,
3:39
Speaker 1: and everybody watches the Disney fireworks because they've got prime view.
3:43
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's right, you can watch this
3:45
Speaker 2: in my backyard. But they're right, Oh I know, Yeah,
3:49
Speaker 2: they're in the property. I mean the talk about a
3:51
Speaker 2: nephew to some some Yeah, that's good. Oh yeah. And
3:55
Speaker 2: he has it like in it when he died, he
3:56
Speaker 2: had it in his will that they can never be
3:58
Speaker 2: sold to Disney ever. I mean, it's Jimmy Bee's prime.
4:02
Speaker 2: It would be prime hotel property for reducing.
4:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would spend anything to get that exactly. Wow,
4:06
Speaker 1: that's good. All right, So we'll do an Orlando primer
4:08
Speaker 1: at some point to talk more about everybody coming down
4:11
Speaker 1: here in a month. But let's get to breaking news
4:15
Speaker 1: about Craig Stamon is the next manager of the San
4:21
Speaker 1: Diego Padres. Forty one years old, spent the last six
4:25
Speaker 1: seasons of his big league career, a long one as
4:28
Speaker 1: a reliever with the Padres, and this would comes out
4:31
Speaker 1: of left field three year contract with Stammon and the Padres.
4:34
Speaker 1: He's been working for the team since he retired, so
4:38
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty four and twenty five as a
4:41
Speaker 1: special assistant to the general manager. And he worked a
4:46
Speaker 1: little bit with the major league team, a little bit
4:47
Speaker 1: with the minor league team. What do we think about this?
4:50
Speaker 1: Then we'll get to the Pooholes and anyone else that
4:52
Speaker 1: was in the running factor, But what do we think
4:54
Speaker 1: about Craig Stamon? A young Craig Stamon taking over in
4:57
Speaker 1: a big time role like this with some big personalities
5:00
Speaker 1: and a team that is expecting to be in their
5:02
Speaker 1: winning windows.
5:03
Speaker 2: Still, this is the new way. This is they say
5:06
Speaker 2: in the Mandalorian and other Disney reference. This is the
5:09
Speaker 2: way you get into an organization and you've become a
5:12
Speaker 2: special assistant to the manager of the GM the owner
5:16
Speaker 2: and then when they have a job opening, they hire
5:18
Speaker 2: you because they already know you, and you've already told
5:20
Speaker 2: them all your ideas and like, I like his idea,
5:22
Speaker 2: and oh if you get and then they can say, oh, well,
5:25
Speaker 2: I've heard him talk about this, I like that idea,
5:27
Speaker 2: or I like this, I like that, and then this
5:28
Speaker 2: is this is kind of the way. And then also
5:30
Speaker 2: they say, oh wait, I can I already know him
5:34
Speaker 2: so I could tell him what to do and we
5:35
Speaker 2: have the same ideas on everything, and then we do
5:38
Speaker 2: you know this and that? So I mean, I hope
5:40
Speaker 2: it works for the Padres. We'll see, but I don't know.
5:44
Speaker 2: Craig Stammond has always come across as a smart guy
5:46
Speaker 2: and a nice guy. But we'll see. I mean, he's
5:49
Speaker 2: been there for a couple of years now, so they
5:50
Speaker 2: know him better than we do. But you know, good luck.
5:53
Speaker 3: Everybody I know that played with him says incredible, dude.
5:58
Speaker 3: My biggest hang up anytime a pitcher gets a managerial job,
6:03
Speaker 3: it is hard to part of probably one of the
6:06
Speaker 3: biggest things of managing a team is how you manage
6:10
Speaker 3: your bullpen. So he knows that part of it. He knows,
6:13
Speaker 3: you know, when guys lie, when guys don't lie how
6:15
Speaker 3: far to push some guys? You know how far he
6:18
Speaker 3: could be pushed. So I think he's got great insight
6:22
Speaker 3: on that, great experience on that. But how much does
6:25
Speaker 3: he know the other ins and outs of being in
6:29
Speaker 3: the dugout. I'm not talking about x's and o's of baseball.
6:32
Speaker 3: I think you can be learned out of the bench
6:35
Speaker 3: coach that does all that. But how much does he
6:38
Speaker 3: know the ins and outs of pushing a Manny Machado,
6:42
Speaker 3: pushing a Xander Bogart's pulling back the reins on a
6:47
Speaker 3: Fernando Tatis, Like that's the kind of stuff that he's
6:50
Speaker 3: going to have to navigate.
6:51
Speaker 2: I think sometimes.
6:51
Speaker 3: Pitchers don't always have the experience the insight. He's been
6:58
Speaker 3: in the organization, so he knows how organization works. Great dude,
7:02
Speaker 3: sounds like he's an incredible people person. But to make
7:06
Speaker 3: a political reference, back when George Bush was finding a
7:11
Speaker 3: vice president, he hired Dick Cheney to be his vice president.
7:15
Speaker 3: After he had hired Dick Cheney to be the person
7:18
Speaker 3: to go find him his vice president. So is this
7:21
Speaker 3: what happened with Craig Stamon. Craig Stamon was in on
7:24
Speaker 3: all the all the managerial meetings and he's.
7:26
Speaker 2: Like, pretty good, it's pretty good. And he just took
7:30
Speaker 2: everybody's ideas and he's like, I'll be the manager. I
7:37
Speaker 2: just I just I don't know. I mean, again, this
7:40
Speaker 2: is another fascinating higher because who's his coach is going
7:42
Speaker 2: to be. That's what this all comes down to. Vitello,
7:46
Speaker 2: but Terra and now Stamm and all these guys that
7:49
Speaker 2: really have no experience ever being in the dugout of
7:53
Speaker 2: a major not that statement has him been in the dugout,
7:56
Speaker 2: but I mean, like running a team, not a coach.
8:00
Speaker 2: Who are they hired to help them? That's the biggest
8:02
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. What's their network like
8:05
Speaker 2: and who can they bring in that they trust to
8:07
Speaker 2: help them run the bullpen. I know Neeblo is probably
8:10
Speaker 2: gonna stay there, so I'm assuming Stams is gonna be
8:12
Speaker 2: like Ruben, you run the pitching staff and I'll just
8:15
Speaker 2: take care of the other side of it. But who's
8:17
Speaker 2: going to be their bench coach? Who's going to be
8:18
Speaker 2: this guy? Who's going to be that guy? That's the
8:20
Speaker 2: things to me that are fascinating about these hires is
8:22
Speaker 2: can it work? Absolutely? But they've also never had to
8:25
Speaker 2: make decisions. Do I bring in a pitcher? Do I
8:27
Speaker 2: bring in do I pinch it? Do I do I
8:29
Speaker 2: do this? Do I do that? How do we do this?
8:31
Speaker 2: There's a million things that happen so fast, and I
8:33
Speaker 2: think every manager you talk to that does this for
8:35
Speaker 2: the first time is amazed by how fast the game
8:37
Speaker 2: actually goes. When you're sitting in that seat, and you
8:39
Speaker 2: better have somebody sitting next to you, that one you
8:42
Speaker 2: can trust, you can have arguments with and get over
8:44
Speaker 2: with it and get over it and also know that
8:47
Speaker 2: they have your best interest and also the team's best
8:50
Speaker 2: interests in mind. Because Krats, I'm sure you played on
8:52
Speaker 2: teams and I've been around it where coaches don't always
8:56
Speaker 2: mingle because sometimes guys have different motives and because they're like, oh,
9:01
Speaker 2: maybe if he gets fired, I can slide into that job,
9:04
Speaker 2: right Like, So, I mean, there's always there's always ulterior motives,
9:07
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that's fascinating is how do you
9:09
Speaker 2: find the right guy to be by your side through
9:13
Speaker 2: thick and thin.
9:14
Speaker 3: Maybe Craig has somebody like that. Maybe I don't know,
9:18
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know Ryan Flaherty was on
9:22
Speaker 3: that staff. I'm not sure his status now, but he's
9:25
Speaker 3: been interviewing for some jobs. Ruby Diebola, I think it
9:29
Speaker 3: was actually in the running for this job. So do
9:32
Speaker 3: you bring two coaches back that didn't get the job
9:36
Speaker 3: that they wanted and now they're just being your you know,
9:41
Speaker 3: on your staff instead of being the head honcho. I saw.
9:44
Speaker 3: I saw one time we had a bench coach and
9:46
Speaker 3: I won't because I'm not gonna throw I'd love to
9:48
Speaker 3: throw the one person under the bus, but I'm not
9:50
Speaker 3: gonna throw the other guys under the bus.
9:52
Speaker 2: The bench coach. And then there was like a big
9:55
Speaker 2: league coach on this team that the manager would look
10:00
Speaker 2: past the bench coach. They would all stand all three
10:03
Speaker 2: right on the rail and look past the bench coach
10:06
Speaker 2: for the other guy's the other guy's opinion on subjects.
10:11
Speaker 2: And the bench coach incredible, very talented, knew the game,
10:16
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and he just had to stand there
10:17
Speaker 2: and just it was so awkward. It changed the next year,
10:21
Speaker 2: but it was so awkward to see him always like, Hey,
10:24
Speaker 2: what do you think about this? Hey, what do you
10:26
Speaker 2: think about this? And the bench coach was like and
10:31
Speaker 2: anytime he spoke up, it was bad news, but it was.
10:34
Speaker 2: I was. It's so awkward, So hopefully that doesn't happen.
10:40
Speaker 1: How do you think a recently retired player will do
10:43
Speaker 1: who has spent time now in the front office, and
10:47
Speaker 1: I would assume is on the same page as AJ
10:49
Speaker 1: Preller with this particular ball club. This is a team
10:52
Speaker 1: that expects to keep winning. It is a party, it
10:55
Speaker 1: is an awesome scene. We've talked about this in San Diego.
10:58
Speaker 1: They fill that place up. The fan base is rabid,
11:01
Speaker 1: and they want more winning. I don't know what they'll
11:04
Speaker 1: do this off season yet. I don't think they're going
11:06
Speaker 1: to spend like crazy. AJ, but this is the type
11:10
Speaker 1: of team in my mind, that has some veterans who
11:14
Speaker 1: are strong personalities. And I don't want to say necessarily
11:18
Speaker 1: how to say in this, but I wouldn't be surprised
11:20
Speaker 1: that there were conversations an I. Machado has been there
11:23
Speaker 1: for a long time. He really likes to be involved
11:25
Speaker 1: with the leadership portion of a team. I'm assuming that
11:30
Speaker 1: he gave two thumbs up on this one.
11:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would have to. You have to know did
11:36
Speaker 2: he play with stanman there as a player when Manny
11:38
Speaker 2: got there, or was he already.
11:39
Speaker 1: Gone, I'll check that while you're talking about.
11:42
Speaker 2: It, because yeah, listen, there's probably two people on this
11:45
Speaker 2: team you really need to get well. It was probably three, actually, Nanny,
11:51
Speaker 2: Fernando and I would have said, you Darvish, but you
11:54
Speaker 2: Darvish is out for twenty six, so I would have said,
11:56
Speaker 2: those are probably the three people you would have They
11:58
Speaker 2: did play to get crossed, Okay, So they know each other,
12:00
Speaker 2: so they have a relationship prior to this, So I
12:04
Speaker 2: think that, Yeah, I think they definitely had to ask
12:06
Speaker 2: probably those three guys before they made this higher because
12:09
Speaker 2: Manny has a lot of poll. He had a lot
12:10
Speaker 2: of pool, especially when Peter Sider was alive, he had
12:13
Speaker 2: a lot of pool. You could go to the owner
12:14
Speaker 2: and just get anything done. So I like the fact
12:18
Speaker 2: that they probably involved players. We don't know that for sure,
12:20
Speaker 2: but it just sure seems like it was part of it.
12:23
Speaker 1: Okay, good luck to Craig. We'll learn more about how
12:26
Speaker 1: that all went down next layer. For the last couple
12:29
Speaker 1: of minutes, Albert Poohols will be shut out from a
12:33
Speaker 1: manager role. There were a ton of openings. The only
12:35
Speaker 1: one left is the Rockies. As Ken said on Fair Territory,
12:40
Speaker 1: he does not want that. I wouldn't call it smoke fog.
12:44
Speaker 1: So he's not going to be a manager to start
12:45
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, he will manage the Dominican Republic team
12:48
Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic. But are you surprised that
12:50
Speaker 1: he didn't get one of these, especially after the.
12:52
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go to the Angels.
12:54
Speaker 2: I thought Angels was going to be the one.
12:56
Speaker 1: Right, and you just said, hey, work with a team,
12:59
Speaker 1: then they bring you on. Already was interested, but might
13:03
Speaker 1: have offered him a one year deal.
13:05
Speaker 2: Or he's also got a new GM this year that
13:09
Speaker 2: team and Albert played for for a long time Cardinals bingo.
13:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeat, he wants that job too, and Ali
13:15
Speaker 1: Marmo might no.
13:16
Speaker 2: I know, listen, I mean him bloom though, is new
13:19
Speaker 2: Oli Marmle? I love obviously, I love Ali Marmon, But
13:25
Speaker 2: new GM, new front office knew everything. Maybe Albert sits
13:29
Speaker 2: out for a year and says, hey, look what I
13:30
Speaker 2: did for the Dominican in the World Baseball Classic, much
13:33
Speaker 2: like Mark de Rosa does all the time, tooting out
13:35
Speaker 2: thing to try to get a job.
13:36
Speaker 1: Right, Well, he has to sit out now, I know.
13:39
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying he sits out, and he says, oh, well,
13:41
Speaker 2: I really wanted to go to Saint Louis the whole time.
13:44
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, but like I thought he
13:46
Speaker 2: was going to get the I thought he was going
13:48
Speaker 2: to get the Angels job. Everyone was saying that he
13:50
Speaker 2: was going to get the Angels.
13:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't. Kratz question for you on Poolholes.
13:54
Speaker 1: Do you think that he should spend this season on
13:57
Speaker 1: a major league coaching staff. I don't know if he will.
14:00
Speaker 1: He does some TV work, he's doing the DRWBC and
14:05
Speaker 1: it gets complicated. He shouldn't be worried about money, but
14:08
Speaker 1: he'd probably have to give up the one million bucks
14:10
Speaker 1: for a you know, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
14:13
Speaker 1: coaching contract instead. Should be no big deal if the
14:16
Speaker 1: long term goal is manager. I'm just saying. The Angels
14:18
Speaker 1: do have that situation by the balls to some extent.
14:22
Speaker 1: But if you were him and you really want to manage,
14:23
Speaker 1: shouldn't he try to link up with a team this year?
14:26
Speaker 1: It might be too late because most of the coaching
14:27
Speaker 1: stats have been picked by your thoughts.
14:31
Speaker 3: I think he went through all the I think he
14:32
Speaker 3: went You have to interview. First, my buddies who have
14:35
Speaker 3: become managers are like, look, the interview process is different.
14:40
Speaker 2: It's like it's long. It's not like, oh I can't
14:43
Speaker 2: handle it, but it's exhausting because it's just you know,
14:46
Speaker 2: they put a situation, the lineup, what the record of
14:49
Speaker 2: the team is at the time, and then a situation
14:52
Speaker 2: that happens in the clubhouse, and.
14:53
Speaker 3: Then you know this is going on during the game.
14:56
Speaker 3: How would you handle this? And you have like an
14:58
Speaker 3: hour to figure it out. It's like basically taking tests.
15:01
Speaker 3: Now he's gone through that. To me, whatever reason he
15:06
Speaker 3: didn't get the job, Like if it's with the Angels,
15:07
Speaker 3: he didn't get the job because he was like, no,
15:10
Speaker 3: you're still gonna pay me my million dollars that I
15:12
Speaker 3: would have gotten, and you're gonna pay me like a
15:14
Speaker 3: regular manager. You know, maybe he isn't that far off
15:17
Speaker 3: of being a manager. If the other teams are like, eh,
15:19
Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna go in another direction. It's not me,
15:23
Speaker 3: it's you kind of thing. He needs to work on
15:25
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.
15:26
Speaker 2: And I never being a manager, but only talking to
15:29
Speaker 2: my buddies who have managed and are working towards being managers.
15:33
Speaker 2: Being on the bench matters so much. It matters to
15:36
Speaker 2: your street cred with players, it matters to how you
15:39
Speaker 2: figure out. I mean, Albert's been out of the game
15:42
Speaker 2: for a few years. Things change, You figure out how
15:45
Speaker 2: to deal with the new player, and I think Albert
15:48
Speaker 2: has to learn how to talk to the twenty to
15:52
Speaker 2: twenty sixth the man on the roster. Not saying he
15:54
Speaker 2: didn't when he played. I'm just saying superstars, that will
15:57
Speaker 2: always be their hurdle when they go to be a manager.
16:02
Speaker 1: Some of these hires or candidates like Albert could have
16:05
Speaker 1: a high ceiling, but he also could have a low floor.
16:08
Speaker 1: Craig Stammon being part of the Org now for multiple years,
16:11
Speaker 1: knowing the guys like that gives him a higher floor
16:13
Speaker 1: than Albert Poohls. I think that's part of this, Like, Hey,
16:16
Speaker 1: what's the best and worst case scenario here for a
16:18
Speaker 1: team that's contending for a playoff spot. I think that's
16:21
Speaker 1: a factor when they made their decision.
16:24
Speaker 3: But again, when does this work out? We asked this
16:27
Speaker 3: about the Blake Butterra thing. When does this work out?
16:30
Speaker 3: When does a Hall of Famer step in to being
16:33
Speaker 3: a manager without any experience and it work out.
16:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, not often. I mean, Albert has some people very
16:43
Speaker 1: much on his side that think he's going to be great,
16:45
Speaker 1: But nobody made the choice this time around. Omaha Steaks
16:53
Speaker 1: is the official sponsor of tailgating.
16:57
Speaker 2: Yes, tailgate, and I know about tail.
17:00
Speaker 1: This guy knows you want a good burger. Mm hmm
17:04
Speaker 1: o Maha Steaks.
17:05
Speaker 2: I've even gone so far as to buy a little
17:07
Speaker 2: charcoal grills that you can take with you that are
17:09
Speaker 2: about the a big and take my Omaha steaks and
17:12
Speaker 2: put them on a grill right there and eat them
17:13
Speaker 2: before a game and sometimes even after.
17:16
Speaker 1: For more than a century, Omaha Steaks has delivered the
17:19
Speaker 1: world's best steak experience. We all know it's not just
17:23
Speaker 1: about the steaks. And if you want the ultimate tailgating experience,
17:28
Speaker 1: you're ordering the steaks, shrimp, cocktail, sign me up. And
17:32
Speaker 1: the burgers are next level as you would expect.
17:35
Speaker 2: You can't even do the chicken on a grill. The
17:36
Speaker 2: chicken bross, the chicken right on the grill boom.
17:38
Speaker 1: Make game day delicious with the official sponsor of tailgating.
17:41
Speaker 1: Visit Omaha Steaks dot com and get thirty five dollars
17:44
Speaker 1: off with promo code foul at checkout. That's Omaha Steaks
17:47
Speaker 1: dot com and promo code foul at checkout terms apply
17:50
Speaker 1: sea site for details. A few things transaction wise. Number one,
17:55
Speaker 1: the Orioles signed up Leodi Taveres. He was once more
17:59
Speaker 1: highly reg one year. Two million is the number. He
18:03
Speaker 1: hasn't shown a lot. Let me get two more in there.
18:06
Speaker 1: That popped up in the last hour. Ramon and Lariano
18:10
Speaker 1: had an option for like less than seven mil. That
18:12
Speaker 1: got picked up. He had a great year. That's what
18:14
Speaker 1: the Padres. I'm just tying these teams together because they
18:16
Speaker 1: made that trade. And then we also learned Ruben Dioble
18:19
Speaker 1: he is going to stay on as the pitching coach
18:21
Speaker 1: for the Padres. That's from Alden Gonzalez. So a lot
18:24
Speaker 1: of little things coming through.
18:25
Speaker 2: So yeah, So Craig Samon is saying, hey, just go
18:27
Speaker 2: run the pitching.
18:29
Speaker 1: I'll take you should have some ideas, although his ideas
18:34
Speaker 1: have already been expressed. He's been with the team for years,
18:36
Speaker 1: does a great job. This is good for continuity if
18:39
Speaker 1: that's what you're into.
18:41
Speaker 2: The other side is more of a I don't know,
18:45
Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see. I hope it works out for
18:47
Speaker 2: because for the Padres, because they have a good thing going.
18:49
Speaker 2: I don't want it to go away.
18:50
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to shake things up too much.
18:54
Speaker 1: I think they like what they've got right now. Okay,
18:57
Speaker 1: bring someone else in. There's risk factor external higher.
19:01
Speaker 2: I hope they spend some money and bring back some
19:03
Speaker 2: of their players.
19:05
Speaker 1: Mm hm. They will still bring back the same guys,
19:08
Speaker 1: but they'll do something. Hey, they made one of the
19:10
Speaker 1: best signings of last offseason. Nick povetta is signed up
19:13
Speaker 1: to a nice contractor he was a number two starter
19:18
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, pitched like a two, like a really
19:22
Speaker 1: good two. Hey, congrats to Kenta Maida. He is returning
19:27
Speaker 1: to Japan, So I think he's retiring from LB. I
19:29
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to come back at this point.
19:31
Speaker 1: Had a nice run. He wasn't as good the last
19:34
Speaker 1: whatever a couple of years, I guess at this point.
19:37
Speaker 1: But he was really good for a bit.
19:39
Speaker 2: Who had a good career. It's some money too, it's
19:42
Speaker 2: money Rodgers, Twins, Tigers or else? Was he so only
19:48
Speaker 2: three I can think of off the top of my head.
19:49
Speaker 2: That might be it Mets. No, he didn't spend a
19:54
Speaker 2: season with the Mets.
19:57
Speaker 1: No, just those three.
19:58
Speaker 2: You gotta just those three. I mean, listen, he was
20:01
Speaker 2: kind of an interesting guy because he was came up
20:05
Speaker 2: as a starter. But then is his career when he
20:07
Speaker 2: kind of became like a swingman at the.
20:09
Speaker 1: End of the season. Always they would try.
20:10
Speaker 2: To put him in the bullpen, and yeah, make him
20:12
Speaker 2: because he had that nasty slider. He's an interesting he
20:16
Speaker 2: had a nice job though. He's hid a nice career
20:17
Speaker 2: in Japan. Now he's going back.
20:19
Speaker 1: It's also almost thirty eight years old.
20:21
Speaker 2: So what I'm amazed is like a lot of the
20:23
Speaker 2: Japanese guys I played with Crafts, like Tadahito Agucci. I
20:26
Speaker 2: thought he was done over here, and then he goes
20:28
Speaker 2: over Japan and plays like seven more years.
20:31
Speaker 1: It's incredible.
20:32
Speaker 3: It really is like incredible fitness of those guys. They
20:36
Speaker 3: do it completely different. Japanese players do it completely different
20:39
Speaker 3: than American players do. From high school all the way
20:43
Speaker 3: on a super dedicated, super very intricate workouts. Flexibility, mobility.
20:50
Speaker 3: Eachiro would always talk about it. Roald bidey As would
20:53
Speaker 3: talk about all the stuff Eachiro would do. I know,
20:55
Speaker 3: each row is a freak. Ky's Hall of Famer but
20:59
Speaker 3: they really go to a gym in Japan looks completely
21:03
Speaker 3: different than the gym's over here.
21:05
Speaker 1: M hm. A couple of Cubs questions. One was say,
21:11
Speaker 1: why did they get Tucker in the first place, Well,
21:13
Speaker 1: rentals are real. Other teams rentals. The Yankees rented and.
21:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the difference in Soto is that the Yankees
21:19
Speaker 2: actually tried to resign. They wanted to re sign Sodo.
21:22
Speaker 2: I mean, the Cubs have pretty much come out and said, yeah,
21:24
Speaker 2: we don't really care. He was here for one year
21:26
Speaker 2: and we're gonna move on because we can't afford them.
21:28
Speaker 2: The Yankees legitimately wanted Soto back. They they threw everything
21:32
Speaker 2: out him, and the Mets just beat them. So ore
21:34
Speaker 2: I mean corb Yeah, but to me, the Corbyn Burns
21:37
Speaker 2: trade they made. They made an offer, They made him
21:40
Speaker 2: an offer, they made him a huge offer. He didn't
21:42
Speaker 2: accept it.
21:44
Speaker 1: That's fair.
21:44
Speaker 2: So the Cubs different. The Cubs will say we tried.
21:49
Speaker 1: And also there was another question about Dansby Someone's.
21:51
Speaker 2: Asking Andy's got four more years? Yeah?
21:53
Speaker 1: Or about They were like, can you go into detail
21:56
Speaker 1: how they only have under contract after twenty six? And
21:58
Speaker 1: I was like, is there an op out? Now there's
21:59
Speaker 1: not He's there for a long time.
22:07
Speaker 2: See finally a good finally, good front end graphic. Finally,
22:11
Speaker 2: finally you like that. Yeah, but the only problem is
22:14
Speaker 2: Michael didn't have his socks on, and that.
22:16
Speaker 1: And shake it up. Well, you need to tell everybody
22:19
Speaker 1: what you just saw, because there are many people that
22:22
Speaker 1: listen to via podcast.
22:23
Speaker 2: There's me being a bartender and serving drinks to Michael.
22:27
Speaker 2: Our social underage are underage. He's not underage, and he's
22:35
Speaker 2: not an intern either, and he's famous. Now now whatever
22:39
Speaker 2: he is, let's get he sleeps in his socks, He'll
22:41
Speaker 2: always be my intern until he.
22:44
Speaker 1: Doesn't sleep in his socks. Jay Stingler is going to
22:49
Speaker 1: join Tony Vaytello's staff in San Francisco. They were college
22:53
Speaker 1: teammates at Missouri and they have remained close friends. Okay,
22:58
Speaker 1: it's a good experience.
22:59
Speaker 2: Jas that experience.
23:00
Speaker 1: He's coached for a while, he's managed. That's a good one.
23:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good start. Yeah, stuff, Especially they're close friends.
23:06
Speaker 2: He's got someone there that supports them.
23:09
Speaker 3: And I don't want to I don't want to bury
23:11
Speaker 3: the lead, but ninety percent sure he's coming on the
23:14
Speaker 3: show tomorrow. Tingler to talk about it, but he's in
23:18
Speaker 3: the middle of Zoom meetings, so I'm just being completely honest.
23:22
Speaker 3: If he gets a Zoom meeting, he won't be Omega.
23:24
Speaker 3: But tomorrow Ftfense, so you'll get more Tingla.
23:30
Speaker 1: That'd be awesome.
23:31
Speaker 3: The person that played with that had the least the
23:33
Speaker 3: least power ever, Me and Jays played in Hi A
23:38
Speaker 3: together minus power. You know when you see like the
23:42
Speaker 3: little kids like the little kids hit and the ball
23:45
Speaker 3: hits their bat and the bat likes bounces back.
23:48
Speaker 2: That was Tangler. But in pro Bawl was he a
23:51
Speaker 2: contact titter super contact.
23:54
Speaker 3: They would draw the left fielder in because he would
23:56
Speaker 3: just he made the All Star team in High A
23:58
Speaker 3: because he was just so balls over the shortstops head.
24:01
Speaker 3: And then they started bringing the left fielder in super
24:04
Speaker 3: contacted her.
24:05
Speaker 1: What if we combined you and Jase Tingler as a player.
24:09
Speaker 3: I mean, the amount of Sexiest Men of the Year
24:13
Speaker 3: award that you would win it would be ridiculous, but.
24:17
Speaker 2: I do like it.
24:18
Speaker 3: Now you have somebody that has been a manager in
24:20
Speaker 3: the big leagues knows Tony as well as you can
24:23
Speaker 3: know Tony, and Jase has done everything. Jase has gone
24:27
Speaker 3: from he ran the Dominican Academy. He then brought like Rugie.
24:35
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think all those guys Jackson profar, those
24:38
Speaker 3: guys that came up with the Rangers, brought them up
24:41
Speaker 3: back up to the States, and then he managed them
24:44
Speaker 3: at each level. Then he was like a quality control coach.
24:47
Speaker 3: Then he was a big league manager. Then he's been
24:50
Speaker 3: a bench coach for a while, so he's seen He's
24:53
Speaker 3: seen a lot. So I think it's a great hire.
24:58
Speaker 1: Speaking of buyers, Bruce Bochi back to the Giants as
25:02
Speaker 1: a special assistant.
25:03
Speaker 2: The Giants are just bringing. Why don't they hired Bruce
25:05
Speaker 2: Bochi is the bench coach. I don't think. I don't
25:08
Speaker 2: want to do that. I'm always a ratager. I rather
25:11
Speaker 2: be in the office with Bustner.
25:14
Speaker 1: That would be a demotion. Susan Slesser, who is the
25:16
Speaker 1: special contributor to splash Hit Territory brand new show and
25:20
Speaker 1: FP Santangelo hosting. Susan tweeted, I joined FP again on
25:25
Speaker 1: splash Hit. We talked about my chat with Greg Johnson
25:28
Speaker 1: in the San Francisco Chronicle, including Bruce Bochi's return and
25:32
Speaker 1: other topics. But Greg Johnson is the controller, right, Is
25:35
Speaker 1: he the main guy controlling the team these days or whatever?
25:38
Speaker 2: No, I have no idea.
25:40
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he's a decision maker.
25:42
Speaker 2: So this is great though. This is another person that
25:46
Speaker 2: Tony Vitello and Chase Tangler and the rest of his
25:48
Speaker 2: crew Buster Posey included, can bounce ideas off of. I
25:53
Speaker 2: love this. Listen. Just because you're in a position of
25:57
Speaker 2: power doesn't mean that you can't have people that one
25:59
Speaker 2: aid you can have conversations with and they might disagree
26:02
Speaker 2: with you, but at least you get ideas and you
26:04
Speaker 2: can bounce ideas off people, and as long as you're
26:06
Speaker 2: okay with not always agreeing with you, like Boach, probably
26:09
Speaker 2: won't agree with everything Buster Posey says, but at least
26:12
Speaker 2: you have a sounding board in Boach and Tingler and
26:15
Speaker 2: Vitello can bouncings off of each other and see where
26:17
Speaker 2: it goes. Because this is how you learn and get better.
26:19
Speaker 2: You got to be able to talk and not get
26:21
Speaker 2: mad and then move on. And I think the Giants
26:23
Speaker 2: are trying to assemble a staff from front office down
26:26
Speaker 2: that can have open dialogue, and that's a good thing.
26:30
Speaker 3: I sat in I sat in the catchers and pitchers
26:33
Speaker 3: meetings pre series. When I played for the Giants, Boach
26:36
Speaker 3: was in there, Buster was in there, like the guys
26:40
Speaker 3: like those are two guys, Buster and Bochi that just
26:43
Speaker 3: watch a lot of baseball.
26:45
Speaker 2: They remember a lot of baseball.
26:47
Speaker 3: So are they going to be the guy who's just
26:50
Speaker 3: taking over meetings if they're sitting in there watching. No,
26:53
Speaker 3: But they add different things that.
26:56
Speaker 2: That will help.
26:57
Speaker 3: And I think Tony seems like somebody that's open to
27:03
Speaker 3: other people's opinions and isn't afraid to listen to somebody
27:08
Speaker 3: that has more experience in an area.
27:12
Speaker 1: Bruce Boats used the legend you want him around as
27:17
Speaker 1: much as possible, and he's not going to get in
27:18
Speaker 1: the way either. You know what I'm saying. Like, there's
27:20
Speaker 1: some guys that are there and it's like you gotta
27:24
Speaker 1: be careful with what they're doing, and saying Boach is
27:27
Speaker 1: the opposite of that. It's just like good times, good hangs,
27:31
Speaker 1: great advice, the whole deal. It's like they're bringing the
27:34
Speaker 1: band back together, right, let's bring the winners back. That
27:41
Speaker 1: was beautifully done.
27:42
Speaker 2: By the way, with the.
27:45
Speaker 1: Subscriber little thang, you got the glare right out beautiful. Okay,
27:51
Speaker 1: just want to remind everyone splash It Territory and Bucco
27:57
Speaker 1: Territory and Riverfront Territory. Three new shows there. They are
28:02
Speaker 1: gonna keep reminding you this week to tell your friends subscribe.
28:06
Speaker 2: Say splash three time, splash splash it, splash it. Mm hmm.
28:14
Speaker 1: Didn't go the direction there, are right, you guys should
28:19
Speaker 1: need How much is done? Yeah, the whole, the whole
28:23
Speaker 1: team production, social. We are all in this slack channel
28:25
Speaker 1: and just go back and forth like, oh, let's try
28:29
Speaker 1: the skull on the O and let's switch the bow.
28:32
Speaker 2: It's cool.
28:33
Speaker 1: We have a free agent coach, John Hammond reporting that
28:37
Speaker 1: Don Mattingly is stepping away from the Blue Jays on
28:39
Speaker 1: great terms and leaving them an excellent position. But this
28:42
Speaker 1: is not a retirement announcement. He is open to new opportunities.
28:47
Speaker 1: I want him to get it.
28:48
Speaker 2: This is to me why because everyone got along so
28:52
Speaker 2: well there and matting I mean, does he want to
28:54
Speaker 2: be a he's not going to be a manager.
28:55
Speaker 1: I have an idea. I think he maybe moved back
28:59
Speaker 1: to the US, or to move back to the US.
29:01
Speaker 1: I mean he's got a young kid. I think still yeah,
29:04
Speaker 1: but no, you don't.
29:05
Speaker 2: Think that's what I just I think this one's interesting
29:08
Speaker 2: to me because everyone's you know, all you hear from
29:10
Speaker 2: every guy is like, man, we got along so great,
29:12
Speaker 2: and wow, we loved each other and we wanted to
29:15
Speaker 2: be with each other and this and that, and then
29:16
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, maddeningly, he's like, I'm stepping away out.
29:19
Speaker 2: Maybe he hasn't you know that he would be a
29:21
Speaker 2: great hire as a bench coach for Greg's dammon in
29:24
Speaker 2: San Diego. I don't know. I mean true, you know,
29:28
Speaker 2: just someone that's been around, it's managed, he's done it all.
29:30
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm just it's just interesting.
29:33
Speaker 1: You want the title too.
29:34
Speaker 2: He got so close.
29:35
Speaker 1: Just now, great, that's all you got?
29:45
Speaker 2: Did you come across all?
29:46
Speaker 3: I got no Dinny baseball, and I never did. But
29:50
Speaker 3: Schneid's was like a kid in a candy store. He
29:53
Speaker 3: was like he was like a kid when he like, hey,
29:56
Speaker 3: you have five hundred dollars to spend it toys r
29:58
Speaker 3: us and he was like.
29:58
Speaker 2: WHOA I get Don Maddenley as my bench coach. He's like,
30:04
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do.
30:05
Speaker 3: I don't even know what to do with my hands
30:08
Speaker 3: like he's a legend, and I think he's somebody that
30:13
Speaker 3: did great managing. He did well, honestly, got a lot
30:16
Speaker 3: of players that played for him enjoy playing for him.
30:18
Speaker 3: But what now, I mean, do you run it back
30:23
Speaker 3: with the same team. Maybe he didn't like being up
30:25
Speaker 3: in Canada away from family. Who knows. I mean, the
30:29
Speaker 3: dudes had thirty nine years in baseball. Forty years in baseball.
30:34
Speaker 3: That is so many years.
30:36
Speaker 1: He'll find a job, He'll get something he's pretty well liked. Yeah,
30:41
Speaker 1: Schnider was funny because you got to see more personality
30:44
Speaker 1: from him this year as they were very successful, and
30:47
Speaker 1: he's loving being with Donnie Baseball. He loves that he
30:51
Speaker 1: gets to pull Scherzer right. I was waiting for that moment.
30:55
Speaker 1: I enjoy that kind of openness from a manager. I'm
31:01
Speaker 1: dialed in, but I'm also having a lot of fun
31:03
Speaker 1: and I know how appreciative I should be in this position.
31:08
Speaker 1: I liked that relatable guys. I did a couple of
31:19
Speaker 1: topics here in hot corner. This first bit of news
31:23
Speaker 1: was basically known. I believe that in his press conference
31:28
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, Dave Dobrowski mentioned this
31:30
Speaker 1: and it happened. Jose Alvarado was suspended for PDS, missed
31:35
Speaker 1: half the year, had a nine million dollar club option.
31:39
Speaker 1: They decided to bring him back, and Matt Gell wrote
31:43
Speaker 1: in The Athletic Kyo he would have been one of
31:45
Speaker 1: the best lefty relievers on the market. They've talked about
31:47
Speaker 1: this a lot on the Philly show, Pratts, you're our
31:49
Speaker 1: Philly guy. Are you good with this? They're looking at
31:54
Speaker 1: it as we know him and we know what a
31:58
Speaker 1: picture like him would get in the free agent market.
32:00
Speaker 1: The other side of it is he got popped for peds.
32:04
Speaker 1: Is he the same guy when he goes through multiple
32:06
Speaker 1: cycles without it? Your thoughts?
32:09
Speaker 3: I mean, rarely is the guy that got popped only
32:13
Speaker 3: did it once? But yeah, you know what, who knows?
32:17
Speaker 3: Who knows if he's going to be the same guy.
32:19
Speaker 3: He was pretty nasty when he wasn't like this spring training.
32:22
Speaker 3: I think he had like something ridiculous, like twenty strikeouts
32:26
Speaker 3: in spring training in like eight innings that he threw.
32:29
Speaker 3: And then he started the season out he was slinging
32:32
Speaker 3: it like. He definitely had an uptick, not necessarily in
32:34
Speaker 3: his velocity, but the results of this stuff. So he
32:38
Speaker 3: was good before that, he was good last year. I
32:41
Speaker 3: guess I don't have a problem with it if if
32:44
Speaker 3: his teammates don't have a problem with it, and everything
32:46
Speaker 3: we heard from Topper to different guys we had on
32:50
Speaker 3: they loved Tozy and so that's the only time when
32:53
Speaker 3: it would be you know, maybe we don't bring him back,
32:56
Speaker 3: but it's hard to turn down one of the top
32:58
Speaker 3: left handed relievers for only nine million dollars for one year.
33:02
Speaker 3: I mean, that would be a that'd be a bold
33:03
Speaker 3: statement by the Phillies to not pick this option of.
33:07
Speaker 2: David Nebrowski said on our show he was gonna pick
33:09
Speaker 2: it up. I mean he said it right.
33:12
Speaker 1: I didn't remember if we talked about it he.
33:14
Speaker 2: Brought it up. He's like, oh, yeah, it was definitely
33:16
Speaker 2: coming back. I mean, so there was no suspense in
33:19
Speaker 2: this one. I mean, listen, steroid p D guys have
33:25
Speaker 2: they're just forgiven and forgotten. Now honestly, it's not are they.
33:32
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys tell my teams. Do teammates care? No?
33:37
Speaker 2: Not really, they don't, right because they That's what I'm saying.
33:39
Speaker 1: If he comes back and he pitches, well, then you know,
33:42
Speaker 1: if you're Bryce Harper or Turner.
33:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Fernando Tatis. You think the Padre's care
33:47
Speaker 2: that he got in trouble for PDS. He say, Baseball
33:50
Speaker 2: doesn't even care. They put him, really cares well.
33:54
Speaker 1: The one risk is I mean, if you get popped again,
33:56
Speaker 1: then you're out for the full season.
33:58
Speaker 2: And okay, how how did that affects Alex Rodrigos.
34:02
Speaker 1: I mean, he's another world.
34:03
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how did that affect him? Does anybody
34:06
Speaker 2: care anymore that he did that? Yes? Who? Okay? But
34:11
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, most fans out there do they care?
34:13
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voters?
34:15
Speaker 2: Okay?
34:16
Speaker 1: Do most fans care? I actually think they do.
34:18
Speaker 2: Do they for him? Yes?
34:19
Speaker 1: Because he did it a billion times? I think for
34:21
Speaker 1: others it's harder to know exactly how deep it got.
34:25
Speaker 1: His story.
34:25
Speaker 2: We know how deep it got. He I mean, he's
34:27
Speaker 2: told us a million times he did it since he
34:29
Speaker 2: first started. Because he had Alex.
34:31
Speaker 1: I'm saying for other guys, they usually don't.
34:33
Speaker 2: Bartolo Colone. People love Bartola Colone. Everyone just conveniently forgets
34:38
Speaker 2: he was a steroid guy. Melson Cruise, Nelson I was
34:41
Speaker 2: there when Nelson Cruz got suspended. It was one of
34:43
Speaker 2: the most happy. They're nice guys, they're happy it doesn't work.
34:49
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to pick them people. We're
34:52
Speaker 2: getting farther and farther from it. Mattering actually mattering for
34:58
Speaker 2: people testing positive for steroids. Because Jerkson profar he still
35:05
Speaker 2: gets all of the rest of his contract. Was that
35:07
Speaker 2: worth it?
35:08
Speaker 3: Yes, re people reboot their image, they get to go
35:14
Speaker 3: back out and they play again. So unfortunately we're getting
35:18
Speaker 3: farther from it, Matt from it mattering to.
35:24
Speaker 2: Your career. Eh, you know, he was a steroid guy,
35:27
Speaker 2: but ah, who cares. We're putting them on on our
35:29
Speaker 2: team's Hall of Fame. Ah, he's a steroid guy, but
35:31
Speaker 2: who cares. He's funny, he's a nice guy. He's got
35:34
Speaker 2: a great smile. Like it really doesn't have the effect
35:37
Speaker 2: that I think some players feel like it does. And
35:42
Speaker 2: whether that's jealousy from those players or that's just players
35:49
Speaker 2: being like, I know what I put into it, and
35:50
Speaker 2: I didn't cheat, and this guy still gets like notoriety,
35:54
Speaker 2: And I don't know what the answer is, like ban
35:57
Speaker 2: them from everything baseball? No, nobody's nobody's gonna do that.
36:02
Speaker 1: Do you guys think there should be stricter penalties, and
36:04
Speaker 1: do you think players.
36:06
Speaker 2: I just don't think it matters anymore. I mean I
36:07
Speaker 2: think I think if I'm a person and I just
36:11
Speaker 2: want to make a bunch of money, and I can
36:13
Speaker 2: do this, and I can get a big contract and
36:15
Speaker 2: I miss half a year. So let's say I sign
36:17
Speaker 2: a five I miss going random or five year fifty
36:19
Speaker 2: million dollar contract and I have to give up five million,
36:22
Speaker 2: so instead I get five million. Forty five million. Seems
36:26
Speaker 2: like a pretty good deal to me because they can't
36:28
Speaker 2: take that money away. So I mean, listen, it's it
36:31
Speaker 2: is what it is. Where we're out of the game.
36:33
Speaker 2: They're trying to clean it up. There's no way to
36:35
Speaker 2: there's no perfect answer. Yeah right, But what I'm saying
36:37
Speaker 2: is is that when you're talking about this, people forget.
36:40
Speaker 2: They move on. There's the new cycle with social media
36:43
Speaker 2: is so short now. But oh he was suspended, Oh care,
36:46
Speaker 2: Oh he's back. Yes he can help us get to
36:48
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Cool. Yeah, I said, that's where we're at.
36:52
Speaker 1: I think opposing fans care. But then the fans.
36:56
Speaker 2: Get after a year anyways, because then it's onto the
36:58
Speaker 2: next thing. People. I'll tell I told the story many times.
37:00
Speaker 2: When I was in Anaheim, years after the two thousand
37:03
Speaker 2: and five when all this stuff happened with me in
37:05
Speaker 2: two thousand and five, fans are booing me and a
37:07
Speaker 2: good buddy I was sitting in the stands and he
37:09
Speaker 2: looks at him and goes, hey, why are you guys
37:10
Speaker 2: booing it? And they go, I don't know. I guess
37:11
Speaker 2: he used steroids or something. They have no idea, They
37:15
Speaker 2: have no idea. He's so I'm gonna boo. The astros
37:20
Speaker 2: trash can thing has lasted longer than guys doing steroids hatred.
37:26
Speaker 1: It's not even close, not even close.
37:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, which one? Which one cheated the game more?
37:30
Speaker 1: Which one's a bigger advantage?
37:33
Speaker 2: I would I would contend to almost the steroids.
37:36
Speaker 1: Gosh, if you're on the right roids, look at some
37:38
Speaker 1: of the careers, I mean, any victories. It's an important thing.
37:42
Speaker 2: I hate getting into this because it just gets it
37:44
Speaker 2: gets it gets me.
37:45
Speaker 1: We don't talk about it very often, so I know
37:47
Speaker 1: it was worth a few minutes to find out. Really,
37:49
Speaker 1: if you guys think the penalties are strict enough and
37:53
Speaker 1: you're saying no one cares, okay, well it's it is
37:55
Speaker 1: still half a season. Like you do miss that player,
37:58
Speaker 1: and also you do miss that play in the postseason.
38:01
Speaker 1: I do like that part. Right, you don't get to
38:02
Speaker 1: have that player come back if.
38:03
Speaker 2: Your jersey profile and your team doesn't make the postseason?
38:06
Speaker 2: Who cares?
38:06
Speaker 1: I agree? And also if you sign a contract that's
38:09
Speaker 1: long term, it's not like it messes up the rest.
38:11
Speaker 1: There's some fans will be like, oh, that voids the
38:13
Speaker 1: contract and that that's tricky because.
38:16
Speaker 3: Then that's the owners. The owners are like, fine, I'll
38:19
Speaker 3: take I'll take a no, no long term contract. So
38:22
Speaker 3: there's there's got to be some culpability there where. It's
38:26
Speaker 3: also like you're protecting you're protecting players too, so I
38:31
Speaker 3: get it, Like you avoid contracts, Oh man, that would
38:34
Speaker 3: be great. Owners would be like, we're kind the whole thing.
38:39
Speaker 2: It brings in a whole it brings in a whole
38:41
Speaker 2: different thing because you can listen if there's a bad contract.
38:46
Speaker 2: And I've heard people talk about this before, like you
38:48
Speaker 2: can who's to say, oops, oops, I put something in
38:52
Speaker 2: your food by you know, And.
38:55
Speaker 1: When it comes to that much money, that's what I'm.
38:57
Speaker 2: Saying, like you and I know it's a crazy conspiracy theory,
39:00
Speaker 2: but not I've heard new many people say, like that
39:03
Speaker 2: could be a problem.
39:04
Speaker 1: It's it is a significant reason.
39:06
Speaker 2: Here's a smoothie from the team, Oh it had something
39:09
Speaker 2: in it, and oh you're getting drug tested after the game.
39:11
Speaker 2: You had no idea. I didn't take anything.
39:15
Speaker 1: You sign up a guy for two hundred and fifty
39:17
Speaker 1: million dollars and you suddenly hate him. That's a way
39:20
Speaker 1: to get rid of him.
39:21
Speaker 2: That's why that'll never happen.
39:22
Speaker 1: So that's a slippery slope. But that's why it's a
39:26
Speaker 1: good topic. It's it's complicated. It's not easy.
39:28
Speaker 2: No, it's not. It's a really complicated I just asked
39:31
Speaker 2: the question, like you know that people people forget they do,
39:34
Speaker 2: fans forget, forget quick you're right on the news.
39:39
Speaker 3: My solution is, you can't get any awards after that.
39:42
Speaker 3: You test positive for steroids, you can't. You can't make
39:45
Speaker 3: an All Star team, can't win MVPs, you can't. You
39:48
Speaker 3: can't win those awards all your teams.
39:50
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't care about that. I mean, if
39:53
Speaker 2: you're if you're a long term deal, who cares. I mean,
39:55
Speaker 2: if you're to get pup, you're not going to the
39:56
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So then who cares if you win
39:58
Speaker 2: MVPs and all that stuff. I mean, and that's if
40:00
Speaker 2: I'm in a two hundred million dollar contract and I lose.
40:03
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, no, I can't go to an alscar game.
40:06
Speaker 2: Everyone outs out of those anyways. Oh I can't be
40:08
Speaker 2: the MVP. I'm probably not gonna win one of those anyways.
40:11
Speaker 3: So, but this way, you're not taking it from other people.
40:14
Speaker 3: This way you're not taking Jerckson profar. Jerkson Profar took
40:17
Speaker 3: somebody's job, and I forget what his name was in
40:22
Speaker 3: both of them were on the team at the beginning
40:23
Speaker 3: of the year in San Diego. Obviously, Jerkson had the
40:27
Speaker 3: year that he had. His ex velocity went up five
40:29
Speaker 3: miles per hour at age thirty.
40:32
Speaker 2: And that guy ended up going down.
40:36
Speaker 3: He's kind of been bouncing up and down from the
40:37
Speaker 3: big leagues the last two seasons like that. That's where
40:41
Speaker 3: that's where I think it comes in. Is it the notoriety? No,
40:44
Speaker 3: It's like I just don't want I don't want someone
40:46
Speaker 3: else taking somebody else's award that did it clean.
40:51
Speaker 2: You're talking about completely different things here, got a job.
40:54
Speaker 2: You're talking about a job that's not even you're talking
40:57
Speaker 2: about maybe two different award or job like no, no, no.
41:00
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that it affects other people. When people
41:03
Speaker 3: do steroids, it affects other people, no doubt.
41:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, Well to be continued. I'm sure that
41:11
Speaker 1: this will come up at some point again, but good
41:14
Speaker 1: discussion and really just wanted to know, like, how else
41:17
Speaker 1: can you make this a more prominent penalty if you
41:20
Speaker 1: feel like it deserves to be that way? Because players
41:22
Speaker 1: did want more of a penalty, and they did up
41:25
Speaker 1: the penalty, right, it was lower at some point and
41:27
Speaker 1: they pushed it up. Anyway, let's swing back, we'll do all.
41:30
Speaker 1: That's what he said. Coming up next a clip from
41:33
Speaker 1: Crush City Territory. But MGM, social media account, what do
41:43
Speaker 1: you have for us today? Give one MLB off season
41:46
Speaker 1: bold prediction? Do you want me to read some examples
41:51
Speaker 1: that were replies to that tweet, Jordan said, Pete Alonzo
41:54
Speaker 1: signs with the Atlanta Braves. Why they have a first baseman?
41:59
Speaker 2: Ya? That is bold?
42:01
Speaker 1: That is bold. I mean he can dh Marcel Zoon
42:04
Speaker 1: is a free agent. They can.
42:06
Speaker 2: He won't want to do that though I know he won't.
42:09
Speaker 1: But that that rules him out of a lot of places,
42:11
Speaker 1: like if Kyle Schwarber leaves for some reason and they
42:14
Speaker 1: want a different DH, Pete could be that guy. But
42:17
Speaker 1: he has to be okay.
42:18
Speaker 2: With that slide right in there.
42:19
Speaker 1: I think he would do it because you'll still fill
42:22
Speaker 1: in guys get hurt and shuffle around. I don't know
42:25
Speaker 1: one other. I'm not going to read it anyone.
42:28
Speaker 2: Else, anyone else you guys that one? What was the
42:33
Speaker 2: other one?
42:35
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it.
42:36
Speaker 2: I haven't got into the off season mode yet. I'm
42:38
Speaker 2: still recovering, like Keika Hernandez from that from the World Series.
42:43
Speaker 1: I have something for you that just happened that a
42:45
Speaker 1: lot of fans were asking about, specifically related to our show.
42:48
Speaker 1: Alden Gonzalez just tweeted the Dodgers have picked up Max
42:51
Speaker 1: Munty's option for twenty twenty six. It's ten million dollars.
42:53
Speaker 2: That's the easiest. That's of all time.
42:55
Speaker 1: They keep signing him to those deals and Max love stayless.
42:58
Speaker 1: Guy said, not everybody goes for the top dollars. No, really,
43:03
Speaker 1: That's what I learned from listening to pest story.
43:06
Speaker 2: Sometimes you're just happy in a place Max is happy
43:08
Speaker 2: and ten million dollars a year. Is not a badseller.
43:10
Speaker 1: No, it is not super underrated player blue guy.
43:16
Speaker 2: Look at their numbers when he plays.
43:17
Speaker 1: Quality played, appearance guy.
43:19
Speaker 2: It's a great interview.
43:20
Speaker 1: You can call us bias because he's one of our
43:22
Speaker 1: favorite guests. But talk to any Dodger and that's one
43:26
Speaker 1: of the first players that comes up when they say,
43:29
Speaker 1: tell me about the core and what's super important here.
43:32
Speaker 1: We know Otani's good stuff like that, but.
43:34
Speaker 2: He changes the changes the lineup when he's in the game.
43:38
Speaker 1: Some teams have done that in the past, Like I
43:40
Speaker 1: know that was a thing with Carlos Santana in the
43:42
Speaker 1: middle of his career, right Kratz knows the Phillies signed him.
43:45
Speaker 1: There were some issues there, but the Phillies initially were like, hey,
43:47
Speaker 1: we need better quality abs. Let's find the guy who
43:50
Speaker 1: puts together great abs. Here's Carlos Santana.
43:54
Speaker 3: It permeates. It's like osmosis. Everybody everybody follows along.
44:00
Speaker 1: Bet mjam players. Get yourself a no sweat token and
44:02
Speaker 1: apply to any bet on Pro Football to use it
44:04
Speaker 1: at a bet on a Pro Football event to your betslip,
44:06
Speaker 1: activate the token received bonus bets. It's the bet that
44:09
Speaker 1: was made with the token loses gambling problem or concern
44:12
Speaker 1: called one eight hundred gambling.
44:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
44:15
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
44:18
Speaker 2: That's what he said.
44:19
Speaker 1: That's what he said.
44:23
Speaker 4: I think it's really interesting because, you know, the analytics
44:26
Speaker 4: have become such a heavy, heavy part of coaching nowadays,
44:31
Speaker 4: and I had a hard time watching this team now.
44:36
Speaker 4: It may be because the astros have kind of have
44:39
Speaker 4: have run through all of these guys that were selectively aggressive.
44:46
Speaker 4: They were very good at zone command. They swung in
44:48
Speaker 4: the zone and when they did they made great contact.
44:51
Speaker 4: When it was outside the zone, they didn't chase. So
44:54
Speaker 4: we're starting to see maybe that generation of hitters kind
44:57
Speaker 4: of filter through the astros and move on the brain men's,
45:00
Speaker 4: you know, the tuckers, some of these guys that were
45:03
Speaker 4: very good at in the zone type thing. And sometimes
45:07
Speaker 4: it becomes an institutional thing where you're not getting the
45:10
Speaker 4: approach taught at a lower level and developing these guys
45:13
Speaker 4: to get to the big leaes, because the idea is
45:16
Speaker 4: once you get to the big leaes, you're going to
45:17
Speaker 4: see more pitches inside the zone. Granted, guys are nastier,
45:21
Speaker 4: spin rates are off the charts and the balls moving
45:23
Speaker 4: all over the place, but they have a tendency to
45:26
Speaker 4: be closer to the zone. And that's where I kind
45:29
Speaker 4: of found some of my frustration maybe in the last
45:31
Speaker 4: couple of years watching Astros baseball is, especially in twenty
45:34
Speaker 4: twenty five. Granted, there was a lot of roster turnover,
45:37
Speaker 4: so Alex Cintron and Snicker had to work with a
45:40
Speaker 4: lot of different guys. But when you see a whiff
45:43
Speaker 4: rate escalate as quickly as it did, a contact rate
45:47
Speaker 4: drop as precipitously as it did, they were still making
45:51
Speaker 4: hard contact, but they weren't making hard contact and appropriate situations.
45:56
Speaker 4: For me personally, I'm a risk guy. I am a
45:59
Speaker 4: get runner home from third base less than two outs guy.
46:03
Speaker 4: Those are paramount numbers for me for a team to
46:06
Speaker 4: be successful, because the Astros will always do a good
46:09
Speaker 4: job of getting on base.
46:12
Speaker 1: That's good stuff. That's your former teammate Jet Blum, who
46:15
Speaker 1: calls Astros games for years and was a guest on
46:18
Speaker 1: Crush City Territory or Astros show your thought.
46:21
Speaker 2: I like, I mean, listen, analytics, are you very useful?
46:24
Speaker 2: I want to make that abundantly clear. But there's also
46:27
Speaker 2: something to be said for guys that can do both.
46:29
Speaker 2: You can hit for power and you can drive a
46:31
Speaker 2: guy in from third base with less than two outs.
46:34
Speaker 1: You don't really use that stat to evaluate players.
46:36
Speaker 2: I know, but that the goal of a game is
46:39
Speaker 2: to score more runs than the other team. So if
46:42
Speaker 2: you have the opportunity to drive a runner in a
46:45
Speaker 2: run batted in, that means you're helping your team score runs. Right.
46:49
Speaker 2: And if you don't strike out with a runner on
46:51
Speaker 2: third and less than two outs and you can hit
46:52
Speaker 2: that sack fly or you can infields back and you
46:55
Speaker 2: hit the ground ball a second and get that runner in,
46:58
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. Give me those guys. Give me
47:00
Speaker 2: the guys that can get a guy over from second
47:02
Speaker 2: with less than two outs can do some different things
47:05
Speaker 2: because also it puts pressure on the defense because of
47:07
Speaker 2: the strikeout. It's like once you doay, okay, hey struck out,
47:10
Speaker 2: Now onto the next right like again. But I get analytics,
47:13
Speaker 2: and there are times where yes, go for the homers,
47:15
Speaker 2: but there are also times where you might have to
47:17
Speaker 2: do some right. What's that size? Yeah, I mean, listen,
47:23
Speaker 2: I understand analytics, and I agree with it.
47:27
Speaker 3: Analytics are a great way to build a team baseball
47:31
Speaker 3: and making contacts. You're just talking about hitting, making contact,
47:35
Speaker 3: being able to change your swing to be able to
47:37
Speaker 3: hit the inside of the ball and move a runner,
47:41
Speaker 3: pull hook something if you're a lefty, to try to
47:43
Speaker 3: get the runner over. Like those are things that win
47:47
Speaker 3: you the ball games. So if you build your team
47:49
Speaker 3: based on analytics, I agree with that, but you can't
47:53
Speaker 3: run it and play it every single day. Going here
47:57
Speaker 3: comes a two run digger. I know we're down by one,
48:00
Speaker 3: and if I get this runner over to third, it's great,
48:02
Speaker 3: But it's even better if I get the runner in.
48:05
Speaker 3: Like I saw people that were complaining about the IKF
48:08
Speaker 3: bunt with Vladdie on second, nobody out and moving him
48:13
Speaker 3: to third with the World Series on the line, Like
48:16
Speaker 3: I saw people complaining about you have three outs and
48:19
Speaker 3: you give one away. Took a really good play to
48:22
Speaker 3: make the play. Like, there's things that you need to
48:24
Speaker 3: do to win games. Like hey, Jay said, scoring runs
48:27
Speaker 3: wins you the game if you score more than the
48:29
Speaker 3: other team ops differential.
48:33
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, those crowds are what you
48:35
Speaker 2: just said. You just said you want to build your
48:37
Speaker 2: team with the analytics, but then you also have to
48:39
Speaker 2: have this other guy. How can you do both? Then,
48:41
Speaker 2: because if you if you just build your team off analytics,
48:44
Speaker 2: then you also that doesn't, as Scott said, it include
48:47
Speaker 2: certain certain things that aren't necessarily statistically you know, I
48:53
Speaker 2: want so how do you how do you do both?
48:56
Speaker 3: We're talking we're talking about a lineup, right or just
48:58
Speaker 3: because that's what Blummer was talking about. I want the
49:00
Speaker 3: guys that hit the ball as possibly hard as they
49:03
Speaker 3: can hit it, and then I'm gonna have coaches who say,
49:06
Speaker 3: you know what, you hit this ball so freaking hard,
49:09
Speaker 3: we need you to be able to make this adjustment
49:11
Speaker 3: in your six hundred had bats, maybe in one hundred
49:14
Speaker 3: of them, maybe in fifty of them, to help us
49:17
Speaker 3: win the game. We're not just swinging for the downs. Okay,
49:22
Speaker 3: Analytically you can find guys who steal bases. Doesn't mean
49:26
Speaker 3: analytics like stolen bases. It just means you gotta find
49:29
Speaker 3: guys that are efficient in it, proficient in it.
49:34
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what else you know? Because people
49:36
Speaker 2: say analytics all they care about is the three true outcomes.
49:40
Speaker 2: You are correct, So build your team with guys that
49:45
Speaker 2: hit the ball really freaking hard and then say, how
49:49
Speaker 2: can we make an adjustment when this type of pitcher
49:52
Speaker 2: is pitching against us to be able to get the
49:54
Speaker 2: job done. You can't just be a lineup that's like,
49:57
Speaker 2: oh boy, you're facing a camsh Littler, You're facing the tray,
50:01
Speaker 2: you savage. You have no chance to wear him down
50:04
Speaker 2: because of your swings. You have to build. And that's
50:07
Speaker 2: where I think the coaches come in. I think that's
50:08
Speaker 2: where the coach is understanding that the reason this guy
50:12
Speaker 2: hits the ball hard is because he is full sell
50:15
Speaker 2: in everything that in every one of his swings. How
50:18
Speaker 2: can you teach him to stay in the zone longer?
50:21
Speaker 2: How can you teach him to be okay with hitting
50:24
Speaker 2: thirty five homers instead of forty? That's that's the That's
50:27
Speaker 2: going to be the teams that make that adjustment that
50:30
Speaker 2: can take your team to can't that's what you just said,
50:34
Speaker 2: You can't because you just talked about the Yankees. Congratulations.
50:38
Speaker 2: Oh they do in these situations, they stink out of them.
50:40
Speaker 2: Usually that you have to be able to change. They're
50:45
Speaker 2: not going half layers aren't going to because the Yankee
50:47
Speaker 2: the Yankees, for example, they want the hard guys to
50:50
Speaker 2: hit the ball hard. We don't want them to change.
50:52
Speaker 2: We want homers. We want homers swing hard, Anthony Volpi.
50:55
Speaker 2: If Anthony Volpi didn't try to hit twenty five to
50:57
Speaker 2: thirty homers a year, cut down in a swing, his
51:00
Speaker 2: batting average to go up. His OBP would probably go up,
51:02
Speaker 2: his power would go down, and he could steal more bases.
51:05
Speaker 2: But what is he going to get paid for hitting homers?
51:09
Speaker 2: So that's what they all try to do. That that's
51:11
Speaker 2: the bottom line. So yes, what Blummer's saying I agree with.
51:14
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, players in their
51:16
Speaker 2: agents say, man, you got to hit the ball out
51:18
Speaker 2: of the park and you got to drive the ball
51:20
Speaker 2: because that's how you're going to get paid.
51:22
Speaker 3: I mean, what did Max Muntzy say he'd in the
51:25
Speaker 3: World Series? He didn't care that he went over seven
51:27
Speaker 3: in that one game. There is a way, in my opinion,
51:31
Speaker 3: to take the analytics to create the team that is
51:35
Speaker 3: going to be the best team you can possibly put
51:38
Speaker 3: out there based on analytics. Then when it comes to
51:42
Speaker 3: the games, we got to have different conversations. Why did
51:45
Speaker 3: we pick you up? It was because you hit the
51:47
Speaker 3: ball really hard, and the Yankees because we were talking
51:50
Speaker 3: about the Yankees, they picked up a lot of guys
51:52
Speaker 3: they tried to get. At one point they hit three
51:54
Speaker 3: of the hardest hitting players in the big leagues and
51:58
Speaker 3: they had two dudes in the minor leagues were the hardest,
52:01
Speaker 3: you know, hardest ex of velocity.
52:04
Speaker 2: If but you can't you just said you but you
52:06
Speaker 2: build your You just said you build your team off that.
52:09
Speaker 2: Those guys that usually have the highest ex of velocity
52:11
Speaker 2: strike out a lot. John Carlos, Stanton, Aaron Joe swings
52:16
Speaker 2: and misses more than anybody. You can't coach him, though,
52:18
Speaker 2: unless you start at a younger age in the minor
52:20
Speaker 2: leagues and develop that, which they don't do. Because how
52:23
Speaker 2: do they get to the big leagues by hitting the
52:25
Speaker 2: ball hard? Of the Yankees organization and hitting homers. Hey,
52:28
Speaker 2: that's how they get to the big leagues? Right or wrong?
52:31
Speaker 1: This sounds like Dave Popkins at the Blue Jays this
52:33
Speaker 1: year and how he helped players.
52:37
Speaker 2: But they have different types of players. Though, they have
52:39
Speaker 2: different types of players. They don't have all home run guys.
52:43
Speaker 1: Right, But Hopkins would go to Bolpy right in theory
52:47
Speaker 1: calling out gangs hitting coach. I know nobody development wise
52:49
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, dude, like this might be more
52:52
Speaker 1: of the player that you are. Let's try to go
52:54
Speaker 1: down this path Yankee fans, you could judge people.
52:56
Speaker 2: But then Bolby's agent in his ears going don't listen
52:59
Speaker 2: to him? Do you need to keep hitting homers and
53:01
Speaker 2: you're gonna keep getting paid?
53:03
Speaker 1: I'm just lying, but I'm not gonna say it.
53:06
Speaker 2: What I mean, I don't even know who his agent they.
53:12
Speaker 2: He actually called Rob Manford and hey Rob, thank you soon.
53:16
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm
53:19
Speaker 2: saying though, is like, yeah, we can all use Popkins.
53:23
Speaker 2: But honestly, out of their guys, I k bose of
53:26
Speaker 2: contact guy Glad, He's always been a contact guy. Kirk's
53:28
Speaker 2: a contact guy, right, Springer has always been pretty decent
53:31
Speaker 2: at making contact. Marshaw makes contact. Marge is probably the
53:34
Speaker 2: only guy that really swings, and he swings out of
53:36
Speaker 2: his ass, but he still makes pretty good contact. They
53:40
Speaker 2: don't have Aaron Judge, John Carlos, Stanton Volpi. These guys,
53:43
Speaker 2: are you know, Austin Wells are.
53:44
Speaker 1: Just ro bust.
53:45
Speaker 2: Yes, they don't have those guys. If you don't, if
53:48
Speaker 2: you build your team off analytics, you get one or
53:49
Speaker 2: the other, and the one analytics wants and the other
53:52
Speaker 2: one baseball people want, meaning like old schooler more old
53:56
Speaker 2: school people. It's fine. Both work. The Dodgers have a
53:59
Speaker 2: great combo.
54:00
Speaker 1: Both crack.
54:08
Speaker 2: All right, before we go, this is Pete mccheska. He's
54:10
Speaker 2: a Fox guy. He did the World Series for the
54:13
Speaker 2: last twenty two years. He received the Tony Kubiak Tony
54:16
Speaker 2: Kubeck Polish Hall of Fame National Sports Polish Hall of
54:20
Speaker 2: Fame Award for Media Excellence. They gave this to him
54:23
Speaker 2: during the World Series. So I want to give him
54:24
Speaker 2: some love. Welcome to the Hall of Fame, Pete. We
54:27
Speaker 2: love you, I love you. Welcome to the Polish Hall
54:29
Speaker 2: of Fame. Budd. It's something he'd been talking about for
54:31
Speaker 2: a while. We got him in. Now he's gonna go
54:33
Speaker 2: give a speech. He retired from baseball, he's still doing football.
54:37
Speaker 2: One of the great guys in baseball, in and in
54:40
Speaker 2: media for baseball, always promoting baseball in the game. Just congratulations, Pete.
54:44
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that he got some love
54:46
Speaker 2: for that.
54:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome baseball career and his football career will continue
54:51
Speaker 1: producing wise.
54:52
Speaker 2: That go, Pete. He's got the Polish. Oh man, he's
54:54
Speaker 2: got the most new Jersey accident. Go Pete. Oh, It's unbelievable.
54:58
Speaker 2: It's just awesome. I love me one of the best.
55:02
Speaker 1: I have a quote from Joe Musgrove, Remember Joe Musgrove
55:05
Speaker 1: coming back, if healthy, good picture.
55:09
Speaker 2: Good picture.
55:09
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if when healthy?
55:12
Speaker 2: Why are you laughing because you just said if healthy?
55:14
Speaker 1: Like I'm saying like. I didn't mean it that way.
55:16
Speaker 2: I know, but it was just the way it came.
55:18
Speaker 1: Out the way it meant it is. When Joe's healthy,
55:21
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. That's a nice guy to have in
55:23
Speaker 1: the rotation. He wasn't there this year. Quote on the
55:27
Speaker 1: Stamina High quote. A little surprised at first, didn't even
55:30
Speaker 1: know he was even considering taking a role like that.
55:33
Speaker 1: But knowing he's in that spot, I couldn't be more excited.
55:36
Speaker 1: Level of respect he has from everyone in that clubhouse,
55:39
Speaker 1: I'm extremely excited. That's Marty Caswell reporting on that quote
55:44
Speaker 1: from mister Musgrove, so they didn't know he was going
55:48
Speaker 1: for it. I wonder how it all went down, and you.
55:52
Speaker 2: Probably didn't have to interview.
55:53
Speaker 1: There will be a great story about how it happened
55:55
Speaker 1: because it had to be a conversation where either he said, hey,
55:59
Speaker 1: I'm interested in this or Prowlers today, I think you.
56:01
Speaker 2: Are you interested? And so obviously it was yes, h
56:07
Speaker 2: that's all you need to know. That quote, it's all
56:09
Speaker 2: you need to know.
56:12
Speaker 1: I love the surprise higher. So many people were just
56:16
Speaker 1: auto pooh holes. And this goes to show a nine
56:19
Speaker 1: and a half hour meeting, which was what it was
56:23
Speaker 1: reported for pooh holes and is in person doesn't mean shit,
56:26
Speaker 1: And probably it's.
56:27
Speaker 2: A little too long nine and a half hours. I
56:30
Speaker 2: can't sit with anybody for nine and a half hours.
56:32
Speaker 2: That's a If I'm on a plane overseas, man, there's
56:34
Speaker 2: at least a three hour nap, right, you get a
56:38
Speaker 2: break from whoever sitting next to me.
56:40
Speaker 1: For me, that would be at least two, if not
56:42
Speaker 1: three meals. There's a lot going on in the nine
56:45
Speaker 1: and a half hours.
56:46
Speaker 2: Hours, right a bathroom. There's a lot of sharing a
56:48
Speaker 2: bathroom in the minor leagues in that nine and a
56:50
Speaker 2: half hours. Nobody wants to see me eat a meal.
56:53
Speaker 3: Either I'm getting fired, I'm getting there, I'm halfway through
56:55
Speaker 3: the and I'm getting I'm eating and they're watching me
56:58
Speaker 3: they're like, sorry, this interviews over.
57:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you skipped the meal, right, I would too
57:06
Speaker 1: do annoying. I did an interview once with a team
57:12
Speaker 1: for a broadcast role, and the guy took me out
57:14
Speaker 1: to lunch and it was one of those oh like,
57:16
Speaker 1: it's one of their places, so he ordered everything, and
57:18
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got bad news for you, Bud, this
57:20
Speaker 1: is not gonna go well. I have a lot of allergies.
57:23
Speaker 1: You cannot order for me. I did not get the job,
57:28
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah I am bougie doctor's territory coming up next.
57:32
Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed the show today because we have another
57:34
Speaker 1: one tomorrow Friday. Kevin Pollar is back on the show
57:38
Speaker 1: with us for Friday's episode.