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- 0:03What's up y'all? And welcome back to Danny's
- 0:05talk. I'm your host, Robert, and today
- 0:08today I'm going to be diving into Severance.
- 0:13Now, this is ATV show that is 9 episodes long.
- 0:21I believe it. It was on Apple plus Apple TV
- 0:25plus whatever it's called and it is classified as a has a bunch
- 0:30of stuff, but let's just say it's kind of like a sci-fi
- 0:34psychological thriller with drama and mystery and all that
- 0:39good stuff. Now what I would say upfront
- 0:43about Severance is that if you are watching the video version
- 0:47of this and you see the the artwork the cover image here or
- 0:54if you're listening to podcast services and it's it's in my
- 0:57thumbnail or you go Google severance TV show.
- 1:02If anything about this image looks interesting to you and
- 1:06picture interest then go watch it.
- 1:10And the reason why I'm just saying that up front is because
- 1:12this is definitely one of those shows that is a full on
- 1:17recommended blind watch just because you know I and and and I
- 1:25will kind of give like mild spoiler free setup of what it is
- 1:31just get a little bit more contest before I get into actual
- 1:33spoilers. So I will kind of toss stamp
- 1:36like OK when I actually start hard spoilers.
- 1:38But I just wanted to sit up front if you want to know
- 1:41nothing about this show, but no that the fact that I am saying
- 1:45that at the top then just go watch Severance.
- 1:49It is one of those type of shows Now moving on to the next phase.
- 1:54So if if if you do want to hear a little bit about what
- 1:57severance is, would that get too deep.
- 2:00It basically the basic setup for this show is that it follows
- 2:08these characters who work in a office building where literally
- 2:13their memories are severed. So basically what they it
- 2:21basically kind of like creates like a split personality so to
- 2:24speak, to where your personal life is literally separate from
- 2:34your work life. So literal work, life separation
- 2:39and just to get a little bit more context for that, basically
- 2:46what you do from 9:00 to 5:00 while you're at work, whatever
- 2:50your outside self will never know.
- 2:52All you know is that you get in this elevator and when you're
- 2:56going down, at some point this switch, this in your brain
- 3:00flips, this chip that they implanted flips and you
- 3:04basically that's where the separation happens.
- 3:07So your outside self, all you know is that.
- 3:09OK, hey, you're walking into the into the elevator at 9:00 and
- 3:12then you're walking out at 5. Same thing on the reverse side
- 3:17of your work self. All you know is that OK, hey,
- 3:21everyday you come to at 9:00 and you look down, you got new
- 3:26change of clothes or whatever and you're going into work and
- 3:29then 5:00 you're leaving and then you're just in a constant
- 3:32loop. And so that is the setup for
- 3:36this show. And it kind of creates all these
- 3:43kind of like moral situations and questions and stuff like
- 3:49that. Because of course, there's a lot
- 3:51of people in the outside world that are for and against it, or
- 3:55they're like with a lot of different choice stuff like
- 3:59that. But this was just like so
- 4:02fascinating to watch. And the thing with this show is
- 4:06that the setting for the most part the office setting is so
- 4:11clean that it kind of makes it eerie.
- 4:15And what I mean by that is that there is like a it's it's a
- 4:19giant office space. So like when the characters are
- 4:24walking to their to their to their their respective
- 4:27department or whatever, they go through all these long winding,
- 4:32twist turning hallways and paths and stuff, whatever to get to
- 4:37where they are. And it kind of reminds me of
- 4:40years ago I worked at a hospital and the hospital I worked at or
- 4:49whatever. There's like the old building
- 4:51and the new building. So of course and for those of
- 4:55you that don't know, I do IT work.
- 4:57I still do IT work in the medical field but just not at
- 5:00the same place as what I'm about to talk about.
- 5:03But, but basically this place was it, it it reminded me so
- 5:08many times of like in my old job where sometimes I got like a
- 5:13request for something over in the old hospital and there are
- 5:18still like a few. It's it's like a it's like the
- 5:21old house, like the new hospital is like freaking 17 stories and
- 5:25the old hospital was like 10. And there's only maybe like a
- 5:28few of those stores have active you know teams and people and
- 5:33stuff in it or whatever. And so there'll be certain times
- 5:37to where we have to go through certain sections of the old
- 5:39hospital, and there might be like one team on this majority
- 5:45abandoned floor. And it just kind of gave me
- 5:49those same creepy vibes that I got back at that working that
- 5:53job or whatever. But like I said, it's just like
- 5:58the environment is just so clean and the main cast of characters
- 6:03kind of starts off with a cast of four people work in this
- 6:06office space, whatever. And yeah, that that that's just
- 6:11like that. That just makes the show just so
- 6:14fascinating. From jump is like I said, just
- 6:18that basic premise and then just trying to put yourself in their
- 6:23shoes of like, man, what what kind of life would that be?
- 6:29And I don't know which side of that I would want to be on.
- 6:32You know, it's like, you know, it's like, I don't know, I I
- 6:39think I might want to be on the outside part of it.
- 6:43Just because you can move around, you can go and do stuff
- 6:48for the other 9-8 hours of the day that you're working.
- 6:52You can still go, you know, be with your family, go to the
- 6:56club, go partying, go bowling, go watch a movie or whatever,
- 7:00versus you're just literally in your office space with the
- 7:05handful of people that you're around with every day.
- 7:07And I don't see that as a proper life to live.
- 7:12You know, like I said, especially when it's like you're
- 7:15not really making a lot of even just like, personal choices of
- 7:19like, oh, what am I going to wear today?
- 7:21It's like your work self. All you know is that you black
- 7:24out at 5:00 and you come back to 9:00 the next day with a
- 7:28different set of clothes. And you're like, OK, I guess.
- 7:30I guess this is what I'm wearing today, you know, so, so I think
- 7:36if I had to choose what side to be on, probably the outside
- 7:39side. But it's also like, huh, what am
- 7:45I even working towards? What is my job even doing?
- 7:48But I guess in some sense, I guess some people are like, hey,
- 7:51if that check is clearing every week, every two weeks, whatever
- 7:54the pay period is, whatever, then hey, who cares?
- 7:58But yeah, so like I said that that's kind of like, like like
- 8:01the basic general nutshell premise of the show and the
- 8:08other kind of like like slight hint I'll give with this or like
- 8:12just kind of like for comparison's sake.
- 8:16I would say if you were a fan specifically like like those
- 8:20early seasons of Westworld, then Severance might be something
- 8:25that you're into as well. And also also kind of just like
- 8:29flipping that or whatever. If you have watched Severance
- 8:31and you enjoyed it, but you've never watched Westworld, then
- 8:34that might be something that I would recommend you go and check
- 8:36out because there are some similar vibes with kind of like
- 8:41the there's more than miss the eye.
- 8:43You know, this setting that you're in seems kind of eerie
- 8:48and slightly off whatever before they actually reveal, you know,
- 8:52like, oh OK this is what's going on.
- 8:54This is the twist or whatever. But this was just very
- 8:58fascinating to watch as, like I said, just like things just
- 9:02start to slowly unfold and unravel, which I will go into
- 9:05specifics in a second. But but yeah, this show just did
- 9:09such a great job of just slowly easing you in.
- 9:13You know, it may maybe it was a little slow at first, but for
- 9:17myself, I don't mind those slow burn shows, 'cause, you know,
- 9:21I've. I've talked about plenty of
- 9:23other TV shows, movies, anime, manga, et cetera, et cetera,
- 9:29that kind of have a slow setup. But if it's interesting enough
- 9:33whatever to keep my attention, then I'm all for it.
- 9:38And I enjoy the cast of characters that they had.
- 9:41I enjoyed as the show kept going and we kept on getting an
- 9:46expanded cast of characters both in the office and outside of the
- 9:50office. And then as like I said, some of
- 9:52those things start to like bleed over and intersect and all that
- 9:57stuff. Whatever was just super dumb to
- 10:00watch. So with that being said, go
- 10:03watch Severance if you haven't, 'cause now I'm about to dive
- 10:06into some very spoilery specific so y'all got 10 minutes full of
- 10:11free. Now let's talk about more of
- 10:14this show. So first of all, screw them for
- 10:18that cliffhanger. They they they truly left us
- 10:23hanging, man. Like them stopping the show
- 10:28where they did it was like a super gut punch, you know, and
- 10:34especially with, you know the the, the the rider striking
- 10:37stuff going on right now, you know, who knows, you know what
- 10:42that delay might potentially do for the next season, 'cause they
- 10:45weren't working on another season, 'cause they show
- 10:47originally aired last year in 2022.
- 10:51But it is what it is. But but yeah so diving into this
- 10:54show all the various pieces that were slowly unraveling and and
- 11:03forgive me but I might kind of jump all over but hey if you're
- 11:05listening at this point or whatever then hopefully you've
- 11:08already watched it because like someone be kind of jumping
- 11:10around just like a different key points whatever.
- 11:13But they kind of like first thing, first couple of things
- 11:18when the bleed over of the two worlds sort of happening was
- 11:25realizing that his freaking boss was his next door neighbor and
- 11:31then also finding out that not everybody has their memories
- 11:34severed. So there are some people like
- 11:37the manager that she knows what's going on inside and out
- 11:45and so cuz cuz the first was the when you first introduced to her
- 11:47it was like whoa, she lives next door.
- 11:49But it's like man, that's wild that they live necessary to each
- 11:52other but they don't know. But then it's like, Nah, she
- 11:55knows, and it's probably not a coincidence that she lives next
- 11:59door, 'cause I believe he mentioned that there's not many
- 12:02other people that live on their St. anyway, So but by so when
- 12:08that happened, and then of course when PD showed up,
- 12:12started showing up and stuff, whatever, and then started,
- 12:15that's kind of like planting the seeds of doubt early on towards
- 12:19OK, who's this guy in a suit showing up?
- 12:22And then it's like, oh, OK, this is the Co worker that went
- 12:25missing. And then, you know, eventually
- 12:28his mind started going crazy and then he ended up dying and
- 12:32stuff. But I'm wanting to know more
- 12:36about what happened with the operation.
- 12:39I want to know more about the lady that kind of helped helped
- 12:44to do the operation on him and that also kind of helped ended
- 12:49up helping to take out that security guard towards the end
- 12:51of the season or whatever. Just because like I said it's
- 12:56it's just so much I want to know about all this stuff.
- 13:00I want to know about what other freaking departments there are
- 13:03within that within the office space whatever.
- 13:05Like the freaking what is up with the with the little
- 13:08department the baby I guess baby goats.
- 13:11That was super weird because at first I went I was hearing like
- 13:15like what what eventually was the the the goats bad sound.
- 13:21I thought at first I was I was like is there like a baby or
- 13:23something. I was like no baby goats.
- 13:26Well it was a baby but baby goats.
- 13:29But that happening the other kind of like really heart
- 13:35wrenching moment and just like like oh crap moment for me too
- 13:38was when the realization and let me see Dylan when they revealed
- 13:47that they can freaking flip your switch even when you're outside
- 13:51of the office building and what's his name Milchick.
- 14:00Milchick when he was at freaking freaking dinner.
- 14:05So cuz the first time when I showed up like the kid counting
- 14:08cuz cuz the episode title was like, was like a hide and seek
- 14:11whatever or tag. And the little kids count him
- 14:15OK, who's this kid or whatever? And then we see the guy I'm
- 14:18like, oh OK we sitting this outside life and then we see
- 14:20milk milk chick there. And then he just let this like
- 14:25countdown And then like you hear the sound when they're like
- 14:28switching over and he's like whoa, is is is is this my house?
- 14:33And then when the freaking kid comes in he's like, wait is that
- 14:36my kid? I have a kid bro.
- 14:40And then they quit. Hey, got the information?
- 14:43All right, kill the switch. And now his work stuff has the
- 14:47information and it's just like now he's internally tortured.
- 14:51Because beforehand, you know, it's just like they they can
- 14:54just kind of like imagine and Daydream what their outside
- 14:59lives are. Which Speaking of which, the
- 15:01whole naming convention for the Indy and Audy.
- 15:07Just so freaking weird and just that kind of, like weird but
- 15:11unsettling nature of this environment.
- 15:14But but yeah, so like, like like him finding out that information
- 15:19and now it's like that's like internally torturing him with
- 15:22that information and stuff. And then the other big twist,
- 15:26We're freaking finding out that freaking Mark's wife is the kind
- 15:32of like, counselor lady. What do they call her?
- 15:44What is? Why can't I find out her name?
- 15:53Miss Casey? Yeah, the the the Wellness
- 15:55counselor. Yeah, the Wellness counselor.
- 15:58Finding out that that is his wife, who was supposedly died
- 16:04two years ago in a car accident is actually here as his Wellness
- 16:08counselor is like, OK, we need to find out in Season 2 what the
- 16:12heck is up with that situation. Because that that's just that
- 16:16much cruder to where he came here.
- 16:18Because he wanted to go through with the severance to kind of
- 16:22help him cope with dealing with the loss of his wife, only to
- 16:26find out that he's been seeing her around the office all this
- 16:30time while also towards the end of the season, at least in the
- 16:35office setting kind of kissing the the other chick, Helly, who
- 16:45was also revealed to be the freaking daughter of the CEO of
- 16:49the freaking company. And it's just like all these
- 16:51intersecting threads and stuff, man was just he just kept on
- 16:57going and going and the reveals and this and that man was just
- 17:03just freaking fantastic. And of course, of course the big
- 17:09well I got, I got kind of like like leading up to the big
- 17:11finale of like I said, Mark meeting up with the lady who
- 17:17helped PD sit like change or I guess I override his thing or
- 17:22whatever. Which, sorry for all these
- 17:26tensions when I was just like like recalling stuff as I'm
- 17:28talking, but like the freaking boss extracting the chip at the
- 17:32freaking funeral was wild but but he had some mark meeting
- 17:38over this lady at this college that he used to teach at.
- 17:41And then the security guard snooping around stumbling upon
- 17:48them, they are knocking him out pretty much killing him and then
- 17:52the lady giving mark the high level clearance card or
- 17:58whatever. And then that kind of just like
- 18:00opened the door even further for more shenanigans and just things
- 18:04to continue to fall apart and stuff.
- 18:09Which it it was just crazy just to see all this stuff just like
- 18:12like such a snowballing out of control while still also trying
- 18:17to keep that airiness and and somewhat normality of the office
- 18:22setting as much as they could. But freaking hell you man.
- 18:26She she it's it's just so funny and ironic how she was giving
- 18:31them so much hell on the inside when she was one of the biggest
- 18:38proponents of or supporters of this on the outside being the
- 18:41freaking CE OS daughter. But her internals her her any
- 18:48was trying everything like OK well can I smuggle out of notes?
- 18:52Can I swallow it? Can I write something on my
- 18:55arms? And then her freaking you know,
- 18:59trigger warning trying to take herself out with a freaking
- 19:02extension cord in the elevator bruh.
- 19:06You know it was just it was just like man, like she just kept
- 19:10going and going and going and she freaking had the the
- 19:12freaking paper cutter blade thing.
- 19:15Oh like hey, let me record AAI can't think where it's covered.
- 19:25Basically wanting to leave, wanting to quit, or I'm gonna
- 19:28chop off my fingers, whatever. And then seeing her recorded,
- 19:33OK, they let her record it or whatever.
- 19:37And then she got on the elevator to leave and came back with a
- 19:41different recording disk up herself, being like hey, I know
- 19:47blah blah blah. But basically being like, hey,
- 19:50you're not a human, you have no importance, I'll make all the
- 19:55decisions or whatever. We are not quitting, whatever
- 19:57that that was just just wild to see.
- 20:01But then, like I said, just all this stuff snowballing to the
- 20:03big finale of at the end of this show them working together,
- 20:11which the fantastic death sequence was just so dope
- 20:16because that whole thing, especially because that happened
- 20:22right after Dylan had the situation with his son.
- 20:24So he definitely was not a no move for partying as which is
- 20:27just funny to see that flip from the beginning of the show where
- 20:30he's all like rah rah rah, yeah, we're the company getting all
- 20:35his like little prizes and stuff whatever to where you know
- 20:39they're like hey y'all met quarter or whatever.
- 20:42So hey, you get 5 minutes of celebration party, whatever and
- 20:47then milk chick freaking the the the the disco like the like the
- 20:54strobe lights or whatever and they all dancing and grooving
- 20:57and stuff whatever and milking behind Dylan just just looking
- 21:02just you know just seeing the reflection and Dylan's monitor
- 21:05of him just like yeah, yeah just having a good time just pointing
- 21:08behind him and then Dylan just snapping just like that.
- 21:14That was just so great to see. But like I said, just like that,
- 21:17all leading to Dylan being the one to stay behind and give the
- 21:22other three a chance to, you know, experience the outside
- 21:28world, whatever. And all of them in in some sense
- 21:34was kind of like in the middle of like some big stuff whatever
- 21:37where like Mark his outside self was going to his daughter I mean
- 21:41his sisters or his brother-in-law celebration with
- 21:45and that lower side I'm reconnaissance so much stuff.
- 21:49The whole book situation of how that even played out which
- 21:53that's on Milchek for dropping the ball on losing the book and
- 21:59not even trying to hunt down what happened with the book and
- 22:03stuff whatever. It's like, OK, bringing that
- 22:05inside and then trying to, you know, reading, whatever.
- 22:13Then him leaving it behind during an emergency and all this
- 22:18stuff was just so wild. But yeah, like, like, but yeah,
- 22:24like like like Mark at the thing with the brother-in-law at the
- 22:27book reading and then Hella at this big speech thing for for
- 22:37herself and her dad and stuff, whatever.
- 22:40And then the old guy. Old guy.
- 22:46What is your name? Irving.
- 22:49You know him? His situation with.
- 22:56What's his name? The freaking See.
- 23:02I hate when my mind blanks Christopher Walken, his
- 23:07character, whatever. Which you know it.
- 23:10I'm not going to go to every single detail to show there, but
- 23:12it was just like, interesting just seeing all of them go
- 23:15through these three different situations.
- 23:18And then like, like I said, I was getting that finale hanger
- 23:22with Mark discovering that the Wellness counselor that he's
- 23:29been saying inside is actually his wife.
- 23:31And then the last thing he gets to say before Dylan gets tackled
- 23:35by Milchak is that she's alive to the to the sister, whatever.
- 23:41And so I'm like man, I hope the sister picks up on that hint or
- 23:45whatever and we go from there. But but one other comparison I
- 23:51just thought of too, which I wish I would have brought this
- 23:54up in the beginning, my spoiler free part or whatever.
- 23:59But the other strong comparison, especially thinking about like
- 24:02like like the the the board of directors and this reminds me of
- 24:09the board and stuff, whatever. And the video game control.
- 24:13Yeah, I don't know if any of y'all and I don't know if I
- 24:16can't remember. Do I still have control?
- 24:18Hold on. OK, so I just have a copy
- 24:21control. This game made by Remedy that
- 24:24came out a few years ago. It's on all systems, PlayStation
- 24:28four or five, all the Xboxes and PC.
- 24:32But that show severance gave me some strong control vibes as
- 24:38well cuz it's also takes place in kind of like a office setting
- 24:42environment where there's you know some supernatural stuff
- 24:47that this control has more supernatural powers and stuff,
- 24:51whatever going on any whatever. But this mysterious board of
- 24:55directors and stuff whatever similar thing is here in
- 25:00control. But, but yeah so I I've, I've,
- 25:05I've talked long enough, whatever, like I said and I
- 25:07didn't want to go through everything beat for beat but
- 25:10just like just kind of just like highlight some of like my
- 25:13favorite moments and stuff from the show.
- 25:16But Sevens was super dope. Like I said once again I am so
- 25:20happy that I went into it blind. But yeah so and like I said just
- 25:27recommended like, hey if you're looking for another show like it
- 25:29check out Westworld. If you're looking for a game you
- 25:33know like like similar vibe. But of course like more action
- 25:35heavy, whatever. But like the like the the airy
- 25:38unsettling office setting and stuff.
- 25:40Whatever. Control is definitely one I
- 25:42highly recommend. Super, super fun, dope game.
- 25:47But yeah, with that, I think that's going to be it.
- 25:49I don't think there's nothing else I wanted to touch on with
- 25:52the show. Like I said, just like fantastic
- 25:57as the characters, great premise and stuff, whatever.
- 26:00Like I said, just like, really makes you think of like, man, I
- 26:03don't think I would want to be in that situation, you know,
- 26:06'cause now I'm also wondering. Sorry to do a little bit of
- 26:09theory crafting at the end, but like, I'm wondering if if there
- 26:16might be a situation to where I I I think it'll be interesting
- 26:21if all the characters had the Rose flipped to where the switch
- 26:27got flipped or whatever, but in reverse to where the Audis.
- 26:31I hate saying it but the Audis got trapped inside of the office
- 26:35building and then had to figure out how to get out or whatever
- 26:40and stuff. So but but yeah like I said it
- 26:42it was just just very fascinating.
- 26:44Just saying like that separation of stuff of even from like how
- 26:48they staggered you know with the time that they all arrived to
- 26:52the time when they all was leaving to try to avoid them
- 26:56running into each other and stuff whatever, at least like on
- 26:59a regular basis. A couple of them they they kind
- 27:00of like loosely you know bump into each other whatever.
- 27:03But, but for the most part they kind of staggered their coming
- 27:08in and out of work and stuff. Whatever.
- 27:11Also, I can leave. I didn't even talk about this
- 27:13the the freaking very beginning when when Haley is on the table.
- 27:19I I loved how they show that same scene twice.
- 27:23Originally from Haley's perspective, but then also from
- 27:27Mark's perspective of how he was behind the camera and why he was
- 27:34even in that position to begin with.
- 27:35And stuff to her trying to leave out the door but kept on
- 27:42basically like looping and coming back in or whatever.
- 27:45And all that stuff was just just like very fascinating.
- 27:48Just like them showing how this stuff kind of works early on.
- 27:53And then like I said before it starts to like OK, showing a
- 27:56little bit how this stuff works, the separation and stuff,
- 27:58whatever, showing what the normal day-to-day loosely is And
- 28:04then things slowly something unravel and then we meet other
- 28:07people from other departments and all this stuff, whatever.
- 28:11But great show, great show. Like I said, especially got me
- 28:16to give dinner 30 minute discussion or whatever.
- 28:20But I think I'm gonna stop right there.
- 28:22So as always, thank you so much for watching and or listening.
- 28:26You can find me everywhere at Danny's Talk, where it's all
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- 28:34games. And with that, I'm out.
- 28:37Y'all be easy and I'll catch on the next one.
- 28:40Peace.