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2025 Ig Nobel Prizes | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 1: Okay, a lot going on now.
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Speaker 2: This is the week of Nobel Prizes, and we've already
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Speaker 2: had I think the Physics Prize and the Price for Medicine,
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Speaker 2: and these Nobel Prizes now are really obscure stuff. I
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Speaker 2: mean they're minute scientific discoveries, proteins and within the body.
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Speaker 2: I mean it used to be where you could understand
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Speaker 2: Nobel prizes. For example, whoever invented flying that got the
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Speaker 2: Nobel Prize. That's easy to understand, right X rays Where
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Speaker 2: Marie Currey got the Nobel Prize at the show in
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Speaker 2: the last century, she received two. By the way, very
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Speaker 2: very few people have ever received two, and she certainly
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Speaker 2: was the only woman to.
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Speaker 1: Ever do that.
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Speaker 2: So we're gonna the big one is coming up on Friday,
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Speaker 2: the Nobel Peace Prize. This is what everybody looks at.
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Speaker 2: And there's been some weird ones on that one too. Now,
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Speaker 2: the Nobel Prizes are awarded in Stockholm or is it Oslo,
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Speaker 2: and then the Peace Prize award in Stockholm is one
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Speaker 2: or the other.
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Speaker 1: It's on it's it's very different. It's on itself.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So you've got the Nobel Prizes and they're extraordinary
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Speaker 2: discoveries and they're given well once a year and sometimes
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Speaker 2: not at all, to very important findings and usually issues
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Speaker 2: that affect mankind in a positive way. Well, there's also
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Speaker 2: called the Ignobel Prizes and they've been going on for
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Speaker 2: thirty five years.
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Speaker 1: And what they do is.
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Speaker 2: They celebrate science's more unusual contributions. They honor the imaginative,
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Speaker 2: maybe spur people's interests in science, medicine, technology. Now, these
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Speaker 2: are real studies done by real researchers, as crazy as
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Speaker 2: it may sound. So let's go through this year's winners
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Speaker 2: of the Ignobel prizes. Okay, let's do it for the
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Speaker 2: Nutrition Prize, which the ignobil Prize is awarded, not the
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Speaker 2: Nobel Prize, but the Ignobel Prize.
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Speaker 1: This is a study.
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Speaker 2: That was done by I can't even go through the
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Speaker 2: names Daniellie, Dandy, Gabriel, Seganatia, Betto and it goes on
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Speaker 2: and on, and they were awarded the Nutrition Prize for
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Speaker 2: studying the extent to which a certain kind of lizard
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Speaker 2: chooses to eat.
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Speaker 1: Certain kinds of pizza. Real study.
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Speaker 2: So the team spotted a rainbow lizard stealing a slice
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Speaker 2: of pizza at a resort, and then the scientist said
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Speaker 2: they wanted to know if the rainbow lizards, who usually
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Speaker 2: eat insects, had a taste for pizza hm. And they
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Speaker 2: had a do they do lizers have a preferred topping.
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Speaker 2: So they followed nine lizards who had a choice between
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Speaker 2: the four cheese pizza and a plate of four seasons
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Speaker 2: pizza a lot of meat on it, you know, pepperoni
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Speaker 2: and such, etc. Now, the lizards found the pizza and
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Speaker 2: ate it, but only the four cheese pizza.
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Speaker 1: They didn't eat the rest of them.
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Speaker 2: Why because it could be easier for them to digest
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Speaker 2: the cheese pizza. It could be some cues attract them
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Speaker 2: to the cheesier pizza. So they discovered why, well, we
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Speaker 2: really don't know, but it was one of the winners.
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Speaker 1: Then another winner of.
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Speaker 2: This was the Physics Prize and went to a bunch
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Speaker 2: of people Italian people, and it honors and basically studies
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Speaker 2: pasta sauce. HM So they were given the Ignobel Prize
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Speaker 2: for discoveries about the physics of pasta sauce, especially the
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Speaker 2: phase transition that can lead to clumping, which can cause
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Speaker 2: unpleasantness because so many of us suffer from pasta sauce
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Speaker 2: that clumps. So if you're making kaccio epeppi, I think
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Speaker 2: that's one of the sauces. If the water is too
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Speaker 2: hot or you don't have the right ratio of cheese
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Speaker 2: to starch, the sauce turns into a thin liquid filled
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Speaker 2: with these.
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Speaker 1: Congealed globs of kurds.
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Speaker 2: And earlier this year these physicists developed a way to
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Speaker 2: prevent clumping. You use corn starch in the cheese and
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Speaker 2: pepper sauce instead of just relying on how much starch
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Speaker 2: gets into.
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Speaker 1: The boiling water.
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Speaker 2: While the pasta cooks and why they got that prize
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Speaker 2: is because pasta sauce is so important to those of
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Speaker 2: us who eat pasta, and that's around the world, and
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Speaker 2: there was and there.
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Speaker 1: Is physics to it. This is fun.
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Speaker 2: So here's another one, and this is the Pediatrics Prize
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Speaker 2: goes to Julie Manella and Gary Bouchamp. They were awarded
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Speaker 2: the Pediatric Prize for studying what a nursing baby experience
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Speaker 2: experiences when the baby's mother eats garlic basically vampire babies. Now,
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Speaker 2: garlic has a history of warding off the undead. It
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Speaker 2: produces flavors and cow's milk and does can affect body
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Speaker 2: odors in humans. Sounds like a Zelman's commercial, doesn't it.
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Speaker 2: In this study, they had mothers who ingested garlic capsules
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Speaker 2: and then produce milk that had a more intense odor
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Speaker 2: peaked at about two hours, and the infants whose mother
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Speaker 2: ingested the garlic remained attached to the breasts for longer
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Speaker 2: periods of time.
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Speaker 1: So there is the study.
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Speaker 2: If you think your baby is not feeding enough and
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Speaker 2: you want your child to suckle on your breast a
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Speaker 2: longer period of time, you suckle up garlic. Better understanding
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Speaker 2: of how sensory experiences during breastfeedings.
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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, then you have the literature prize. This
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Speaker 1: is a good one.
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Speaker 2: And this is the late doctor William Bean for persistently
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Speaker 2: recording and analyzing the rate of growth of one of
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Speaker 2: his fingernails over a period of thirty five years.
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Speaker 1: There's an ignoble prize. And he kept very detailed records.
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Speaker 2: And were written in all kinds of flowery pros, referencing
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Speaker 2: everything from Moby Dick to medieval astrology. And his final report,
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Speaker 2: the nail provides a slowly moving keratin chemograph that measures
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Speaker 2: age on the inexorable absissa of time. In other words,
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Speaker 2: you look at someone's nail over thirty five years, and
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Speaker 2: it's like rings on a tree. You can tell how
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Speaker 2: old someone is. This is a scientific, very scientific endeavor.
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Speaker 2: Here one of my favorites. And this was given to
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Speaker 2: a group of Japanese scientists and this.
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Speaker 1: Is the Biology Prize.
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Speaker 2: And it went to them for their experiments to learn
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Speaker 2: whether cows painted with zebra like striping can afford can
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Speaker 2: avoid being bitten by flies.
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Speaker 1: Now is there a method to this madness?
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Speaker 2: Yes, because they noticed that zebras are surprisingly unfazed and
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Speaker 2: unbothered by flies, unlike cows that are bothered by flies.
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Speaker 2: They have to constantly swat the flies away with their tails,
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Speaker 2: shake around their ears. So the question is do zebra
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Speaker 2: stripes have power over flies? So to find out, the
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Speaker 2: team painted cows with black and white stripes like a zebra.
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Speaker 2: That's a visual. The fake zebra stripes actually did decrease
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Speaker 2: the number of biting flies. So to make cows feel
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Speaker 2: better not deal with flies, let's say dairy herds, and
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Speaker 2: then that now the extrapolation is going to happen.
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Speaker 1: Does that mean that you are going to get more.
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Speaker 2: Milk cows that are less stressed because they're dealing with
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Speaker 2: flies and all you have to do is paint zebra
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Speaker 2: stripes on the cows.
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Speaker 1: Okay, not bad? That, by the way, was the Peace prize? No?
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Speaker 2: No, the Peace prize went no, no, no, no no. Um, Well,
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Speaker 2: I don't know what that prize was. I think it
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Speaker 2: was the physics prize. Now, the Peace Prize went to
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Speaker 2: Fritz Renner and a few other people for showing that
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Speaker 2: drinking alcohol sometimes improves a person's ability to speak in
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Speaker 2: a foreign language.
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Speaker 1: Now, how does that work?
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Speaker 2: Here was a test The idea was that alcohol improves
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Speaker 2: language fluency.
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Speaker 1: So the team recruits fifty.
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Speaker 2: Natives speaking German, Native German speaking undergrads in the Netherlands
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Speaker 2: who were also fluent in Dutch. They were bilingual, and
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Speaker 2: they divided into two groups. One group had vodka with lemon,
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Speaker 2: the other one received plain water. And then the group
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Speaker 2: that had the vodka became drunk and then engage in
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Speaker 2: conversation in Dutch, and then they were asked to rate
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Speaker 2: how well they thought. It turns out that being drunk
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Speaker 2: did not increase the inability to speak the other tongue.
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Speaker 2: It made it easier. So if you want to speak
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Speaker 2: a foreign tongue, if you're learning to speak another language,
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Speaker 2: get drunk. That's what that study shows. And then aviation
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Speaker 2: prize went to a group studying whether alcohol can impair
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Speaker 2: a bat's ability to fly and also their ability to echolocate.
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Speaker 2: You know they use that sonar business. Now, alcohol in
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Speaker 2: the animal kingdom happens all the time. Some mammals were insects,
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Speaker 2: they eat fruit full of ethanol and they get drunk.
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Speaker 2: So in this study, the team looked at Egyptian fruit.
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Speaker 2: Bats are known to avoid fruits with ethanol. But they
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Speaker 2: were given alcohol laden fruits. And yes, the bats were slower.
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Speaker 2: They echolocation faltered, much like human speech becomes slurred. And
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Speaker 2: the bottom line is don't drink and fly if you're
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Speaker 2: a bat. It's pretty impressive stuff. The ig Nobel Prizes.
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Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do that on an annual basis.
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Speaker 2: You know, we have to bring back the Darwin Prizes too.
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Speaker 2: We haven't done that in years. The Darwin Awards, you've
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Speaker 2: got honorable mentions where people don't die, and then you
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Speaker 2: have finalists where people do die. One year, the best
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Speaker 2: Darwin Prize came out of Egypt where a chicken fell
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Speaker 2: into a well and then the kid who owned the
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Speaker 2: chicken jumped into the well to save the chicken. And
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Speaker 2: then the father saw her, his son thrashing about in
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Speaker 2: the well. He dived. He dove in to save his son.
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Speaker 2: Both of them died and the chicken survived. That was
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Speaker 2: the Darwin winner the Darwin Award that year. To remove
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Speaker 2: these folks from the gene pool, all right, it is
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Speaker 2: time for medical news. Doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical officer
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Speaker 2: for Dignity Saint Mary Medical Center in Long Beach, Good morning, Jim, bill.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Good for you.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: We had lunch a few days ago and we talked
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Speaker 2: about this. It came up in twenty twenty two, the
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Speaker 2: name monkey pox for the monkey pox was changed.
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Speaker 1: It became m.
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Speaker 2: Pox and I guess, I guess for political correctness purposes. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's a monkey pox again, what's going on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a weird one. That's why we were
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Speaker 3: talking about it. It's just so weird. Nobody, nobody asked
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Speaker 3: to change the name back. There was no political pressure.
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Speaker 3: There's no like researchers weren't saying this is incorrect. In fact,
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Speaker 3: you know, monkey pox is incorrect itself. It's there's monkeys
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Speaker 3: have nothing to do with this disease. Uh, it's it's stress.
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Speaker 3: The animal vector is squirrels, so you know. And then
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Speaker 3: what happened was, you know, because there's this these rumors
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Speaker 3: and and you know, conspiracy theories that that the reason
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Speaker 3: AIDS spread is because of people having sex with monkeys.
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Speaker 3: It just creates kind of a big problem and a
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Speaker 3: stigma that doesn't need to be there because number one,
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Speaker 3: the AIDS thing isn't true, and that now we have
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Speaker 3: monkey pocks, which adds on to it, so you know,
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Speaker 3: it's getting people were being stigmatized by it, and that
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Speaker 3: was one of the reasons that the World Health Organization
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Speaker 3: wanted to change the name. But apparently, you know, anything
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Speaker 3: that the World Health Organization suggests at this point is
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Speaker 3: going to be not taken under consideration here.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just completely crazy.
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Speaker 2: And the myth we talked about that, the myth of
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Speaker 2: people in Africa having sex with the chimpanzees and somehow
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Speaker 2: AIDS was transmitted to humans. Big question was how do
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Speaker 2: you hold the chimpanzee still long enough to have sex
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Speaker 2: with it. That's one of the big issues. The other
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Speaker 2: issue is the political correctness part. And my high school
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Speaker 2: I went to high school at Birmingham High School in
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Speaker 2: Vance and we were the Birmingham Braves.
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Speaker 1: No one complained about it, not a word was said.
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Speaker 2: Now, a few schools that had Indian names were hit
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Speaker 2: pretty badly in terms of the accusation of political correctness.
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Speaker 2: Nobody complained about the Birmingham Braves. Guess what now, the
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Speaker 2: Birmingham Tumors. No, that would that would be great. But
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Speaker 2: they're the Patriots. Now, Oh, give me a break, all right,
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Speaker 2: that's just ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's get serious.
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Speaker 2: One in ten Americans are taking an antidepressant.
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Speaker 1: So are you ready for this? And my family? I am,
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Speaker 1: My kids are.
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Speaker 2: My wife is, our dog is taking prozac?
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Speaker 1: I am serious.
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Speaker 2: Little Izzy is taking prozac every single day. When you
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Speaker 2: get your dog to take it? Boy, what does that
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Speaker 2: tell you about your family? One in ten Americans are
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Speaker 2: taking an antidepressant.
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Speaker 1: So what does that mean, Jim.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I means, so we've got mental health issues in
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Speaker 3: the United States, and I don't know. To me, it's
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Speaker 3: I guess it's not surprising because I treat patients and
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Speaker 3: the emergency apartment, I get to see their medication list,
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Speaker 3: and it is extremely common. I would have guessed a
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Speaker 3: little bit higher actually than ten percent, but and probably
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Speaker 3: it should be higher if you know that there may
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Speaker 3: be more people that are undertreated for mental illness and
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Speaker 3: depression that so not. I know that it comes as
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Speaker 3: surprise to most people, but I'm not super surprised by
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Speaker 3: that number. And I can't understand why a lot of
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Speaker 3: people would be surprised. But I mean, what happened was
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Speaker 3: you know, in the past, we would treat with drugs
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Speaker 3: that had significant and serious side effects, like MAO inhibitors
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Speaker 3: and things like brictycic antidepressant. Those are still good drugs
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Speaker 3: and there's there's a place for them to be used.
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Speaker 3: But at this point, all the newer drugs, the SSRI
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Speaker 3: I type drugs, those are so safe with you know,
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Speaker 3: minimal side effects. There is weight gain, you know, the
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Speaker 3: bothers are you can have weight gain, you can have
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Speaker 3: some sexual dysfunction. There's ways to overcome those, but they're safe.
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Speaker 3: People don't die from them, but they die from depression.
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Speaker 3: So it's a pretty easy you risk benefit analysis.
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Speaker 2: And used to be well, you could just go to
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Speaker 2: your doctor and say I'm depressed and the doctor would
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Speaker 2: just boom right there, issue or give you a prescription.
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Speaker 2: So that's pretty easy to do, at least I found it.
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Speaker 2: Kaiser is a little bit more careful. I'm a member
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Speaker 2: of Kaiser as everybody knows, and now they switch at
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Speaker 2: my internals.
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Speaker 1: Can't do it.
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Speaker 2: It takes a psychiatrist to actually issue those drugs or
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Speaker 2: to write prescriptions for those drugs. And I go in
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Speaker 2: every six or every year for fifteen minutes just to
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Speaker 2: you know, everything, okay, everything's flying, anything change, No, nothing
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Speaker 2: has changed. Do you have any problems now, I still
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Speaker 2: want to run over kittens.
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Speaker 1: Really, no, of course not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, people do mistake simple you know, sadness or grieving
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Speaker 3: process for depression. It's not depression, that's just a normal
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Speaker 3: human experience. But depression is something altogether different, and it
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Speaker 3: does take somebody to you know, have a serious conversation
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Speaker 3: with you to decide is this real depression or are
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Speaker 3: you just going through, you know, a difficult time.
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Speaker 1: And how does an interness know?
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Speaker 2: Doesn't it take a mental health professional to really be
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Speaker 2: able to determine which one is which.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can just sit and talk to somebody,
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Speaker 3: But the problem is, right, most internets have fifteen minutes
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Speaker 3: with you. How are we going to get into your
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Speaker 3: life story and really understand the difference in fifteen minutes
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Speaker 3: where when Kaiser sends you to a psychiatrist, they block
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Speaker 3: out a much longer period of time for that they
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Speaker 3: keep their interness cranking at you one appointment every ten
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Speaker 3: to fifteen minutes, while they, you know, their specialists can
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Speaker 3: get a little more time with you. So it kind
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Speaker 3: of makes sense.
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Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to the flesh eating parasite story, Jim,
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Speaker 2: which is always a delight and brought this up, and
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Speaker 2: this is something that is affects a lot of us.
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Speaker 2: Sugary drinks raise common liver disease, and diet drinks raise
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Speaker 2: common liver disease by sixty percent. So because of my
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Speaker 2: diet coke issue, I'm assuming my liver now looks like
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Speaker 2: a Jackson Pollock painting. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I really didn't think you would do this story based
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Speaker 3: on that alone. That you know you don't want me
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Speaker 3: disparaging your diet coke.
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Speaker 1: Oh, sure you you do?
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Speaker 2: Well?
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Speaker 1: No, actually you don't. I have a lifetime of this
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Speaker 1: from everybody else. But you don't need much of this,
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Speaker 1: do you well.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the problem is that our bodies were
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Speaker 3: never made to take in all these chemicals, right, and
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Speaker 3: especially highly refined sugar and highly processed foods, ultra processed foods.
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Speaker 3: And we're seeing this in people's livers. The liver is
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Speaker 3: where all of this has to pass through, and it's
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Speaker 3: called first pass. A lot of your blood flows straight
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Speaker 3: from your stomach through your liver, and that's to try
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Speaker 3: and clean out any toxins right away. And so your
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Speaker 3: liver takes a beating when you don't eat well. And
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Speaker 3: so if you add that to metabolic disorders like diabetes
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Speaker 3: or even hypelood pressure, high cholesterol. You add that on top,
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Speaker 3: what you're getting is fatty liver, and that makes your
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Speaker 3: liver dysfunctional. It doesn't work correctly, and it can cause
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Speaker 3: scarring over time and eventually can cause liver failure. So
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Speaker 3: we're talking like thirty percent of the population has these
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Speaker 3: fatty liver changes when you look at it, and about
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Speaker 3: five percent or one out of twenty actually have this
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Speaker 3: severe form of it called MASH, which is metabolic associated
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Speaker 3: dietosis hepatitis. And so it's just that's fancy for fatty liver.
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Speaker 2: So let me ask this in terms of knowing if
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Speaker 2: your liver is fatty? Is that just done through a
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Speaker 2: simple blood test where you look at liver function.
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Speaker 3: If it shows up in the liver function, it's probably
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Speaker 3: a bit too late. There's a way to do an
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Speaker 3: ultrasound that measures elasticity in the liver. That's a new test.
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Speaker 3: It's not a lot of places don't have it. It's
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Speaker 3: not done regularly, but if you're at risk those risk factors,
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Speaker 3: those metabolic conditions, it's probably reasonable to look into getting
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Speaker 3: this specialized ultrasound that looks for fatty liver disease, and
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Speaker 3: that's what it does. It looks for the elasticity of
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Speaker 3: the liver, and that's what determines how far along you
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Speaker 3: are in this process.
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Speaker 2: How can you tell elasticity without pushing it, without pulling
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Speaker 2: it apart?
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Speaker 3: Well, a lubber band, they are pushing it. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: the sound waves bounce off of it and they're pushing
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Speaker 3: and pulling and they can tell. But it's not a
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Speaker 3: normal ultra sell machine that's specialized.
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Speaker 1: Got it all right, real quickly.
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Speaker 2: We have to get into the flesh eating parasite warning
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Speaker 2: California health officials how much flesh is being eaten?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean right now, it's just in Mexico,
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Speaker 3: but it's coming north, right, So it started at the
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Speaker 3: southern border of Mexico and it's been working its way north.
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Speaker 3: There's been about a little over seven hundred cases in Mexico.
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Speaker 3: But people who travel to Mexico now are at risk.
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Speaker 3: And then when you come back home, there's a risk
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Speaker 3: that you could spread this. So these are the burrowing
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Speaker 3: worms that will get into if you have an open wound, especially,
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Speaker 3: they can bite and bite and get in there and
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Speaker 3: then they burrow into your skin. It's kind of cool.
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Speaker 3: And then you know, and then all of a sudden,
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Speaker 3: it looks like an abscess, but what comes out are flies.
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Speaker 2: Now I'm assuming the Trump administration is able to stop
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Speaker 2: them at the border.
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Speaker 1: And because it's uh, that sounds.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely disgusting if I look at if I'm looking at
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Speaker 2: an abscess and outcomes flies or a worm or something
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Speaker 2: that is very distressing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool in a in a way that you
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Speaker 3: don't want to be involved with.
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Speaker 2: Hey, when you when you pull a worm, like a
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Speaker 2: tapeworm or whatever out of a human being, Uh, do
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Speaker 2: you you know, you go to the doctor's lounge and
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Speaker 2: hang out, and do you go to the other docks?
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Speaker 1: Hey, let me show you what I pulled out today.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, we take pictures. We yeah, we do.
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Speaker 1: That's fantastic and that's real.
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Speaker 3: Right, Okay. I mean most of the time patients bring
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Speaker 3: it in either they fish it out of a toilet
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Speaker 3: or you know, somewhere, and then they bring it in
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Speaker 3: in a little plastic bag and then we get it
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Speaker 3: in a bucket, clean it up so we can take
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Speaker 3: some good pictures.
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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Now, I told you about a friend of mine,
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Speaker 2: who was an er doctor. I went to high school
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Speaker 2: with her. And at There we Are they had their display,
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Speaker 2: the little museum of things they pulled out of people's
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Speaker 2: rear ends usually guys.
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Speaker 1: But okay, we're done, Jim.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk again next week and I'll probably see you
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Speaker 2: over the next few days. All right, yeah, go kill someone.
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Speaker 2: All Right, we're done, guys, We are finished again. We
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Speaker 2: start all over again tomorrow morning. Wake up call with
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Speaker 2: Amy and who's ever doing the weather?
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Speaker 1: And then well I do the weather, Bill.
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Speaker 2: Traffic, I'm sorry, you do the weather. Yeah, I know
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Speaker 2: you do Dodgers and yeah, whatever.
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