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Inside the Interview Room: The FBI 302 Detailing Allegations Against Leon Black (4/28/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. When the Epstein Files were first being released,
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  I told you that the three O twos were going
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  to be very, very interesting to get a look at. Well,
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  in this episode, we're going to take a look at
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  a three to two, which is an interview with the
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  FBI by somebody claiming that they were abused by Leon
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  Black in conjunction with Jeffrey Epstein. So let's dive into
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  this report and see what this three O two says.
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  FBI Date of entry, nine thirty, twenty twenty one. Redacted
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  was interviewed at two ninety Broadway in New York, New York.
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  Present for the interview was redacted, Attorney redacted, along with
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  ausa redacted, essay redacted, and Detective redacted. After being advised
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  of the identity of the interviewing agents and the nature
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  of the interview, Reacted provided the following information. Redacted is
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  redacted years old and was born and redacted. She came
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  to the United States around when she was redacted years
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  of age. She was pregnant and had a son in
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  the United States when she was redacted years old. Redacted,
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  she just finished law and business school she went or redacted.
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  She has completed two masters in the last four years.
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  Prior to that, she traveled a lot to hide from him.
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  She was raped in twenty fourteen. When she first came
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  to the United States, she was a model in Los Angeles.
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  Then she moved to New York for work. To be
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  a model. She worked for Redacted. She was twenty five
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  years old when she met Leon Black. At the time,
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  she was living in New York. She was single from
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  her son's father. From the outside, it looked like her
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  life was glamorous. She worked and traveled and met Black
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  at it Redacted in two thousand and eight. There was
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  about thirty people there. Black approached Redacted and they talked.
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  He walked her home the next day. He sent her flowers.
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  They met for lunch a few times, and he tells
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  Redacted that he wants to help her with work and
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  her son's school. When Redacted moved to the United States,
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  she did not speak English. At the time, she was
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  taking English and acting classes. Black said that he could
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  help with the business. Redacted thought that he was genuine
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  and didn't think he was trying to take advantage of her.
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  She was used to objectification being in the modeling industry,
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  Redacted never thought that he would force it if she
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  didn't want it. At first, it was not sexual, it
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  was professional. He proposed to rent an apartment for Redacted
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  and her son to help them. They made a deal
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  that Black wasn't allowed in her apartment. He rent them
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  an apartment at redacted. It was not a sexual relationship,
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  yet he bought her furniture. Black then came in to
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  Redacted's apartment to see the furniture. Redacted felt scared and
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  he had no boundaries. Redacted says, this is the last
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  time he is to come here. Black was very convincing
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  that he knew people and he could still help her.
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  Redacted and Black would meet and would always talk about work.
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  This was once every couple of weeks. At first. Redacted
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  soon became more vocal because Black was not helping her
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  with work. Then he became more frightening and violent or vindictive.
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  First they would talk about work at lunch and who
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  he knows, but that he could use his power against
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  her if she talked about their relationship, which was sexual
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  at the time, Black would bite her. During sexual experiences,
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  Redacted would say no and stop. Black would bite her
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  harder and harder until Redacted stops. Then he would get
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  on top and bite redacted on her private parts. Prior
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  to sex. Black is big and tall. He would make
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  sudden movements and crack his knuckles. That was scary to redacted.
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  He never hit her. The biting prior to and during
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  sex was the only thing violent against redacted. Black bit
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  Redacted during about half the experiences. Sometimes he helped to
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  pay the rent, and sometimes he didn't. Sometimes Redacted would
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  tell Black that she didn't want to have sex, and
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  then he would transfer money or set up an appointment
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  with someone. This happened over ten years. He would make
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  sixty thousand dollars transfers. The biggest transfer was two point
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  six million. He tells he redacted that he pays people
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  to threatn redacted. Redacted leaves the country because she thinks
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  she was drugged and raped. Redacted leaves four redacted. Black
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  keeps calling her, implying that he's behind this, then tells
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  her the money he gave her in twenty fifteen was
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  to sponsor her visa in Redacted. Black was giving her
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  money since the beginning. Sometimes it was like he did
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  something very wrong and he wanted to make up for it.
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  Black never said that Redacted had to have sex with
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  them to get the money. In two thousand eleven, Redacted.
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  In twenty thirteen, Black says he can let her stay
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  in this country if she continues to have sex with him.
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  Redacted how to student visa and a working visa. Black
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  says that he can help her with getting the visa.
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  He gives her two school loans four four hundred and
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  eighty thousand. Redacted then gives a copy of the loan
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  agreement in twenty thirteen. In twenty fourteen, people started randomly
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  approaching redacted. Black said that he was paying Jeffrey Epstein
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  and Harvey Weinstein to take care of redacted. Black files
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  redacted to Palm Beach in two thousand and eight. Redacted
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  and Epstein. We're at the Palm Beach house. Redacted says,
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  these guys are sex addicts and you have to let
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  them do what they want or else they are very powerful.
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  Redacted introduces herself as redacted. Redacted later learns the name
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  to be redacted. Black brings redacted to lunch. They go
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  to the airport, and he brings her onto the place
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  with a pilot. Black says they're going to meet his
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  friend Epstein. Redacted had known that he was a sex
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  offender and she was scared. They go right to the house.
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  This is a police guard outside the house who says hi,
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  Redacted and Epstein are inside. Redacted ass redacted for her email.
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  Redacted tells redacted that she has to let them have
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  sex with her, even if it's a lot of guys. Redacted, redacted,
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  Black and Epstein are in the room in front of them.
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  Redacted says that they are sex addicts. Redacted says to
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  them that with addiction, you tend to need it faster
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  and more until it affects your life. Epstein asked redacted
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  if she's looking for love. Black was angry when they left,
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  and he was force feeding her because she didn't want
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  to eat. He was giving her sushi and jung food,
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  some sort of punishment. The abuse was progressive. Redacted told
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  Black all the time that she did not want to
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  have sex with him, and he would get mad. He
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  would say, he's powerful, and you don't want to cross him.
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  Redacted knew he was possibly a billionaire. She heard he
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  was powerful. Redacted met Epstein about one to two times. Briefly,
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  Black tells were Redacted that he's best friends with Epstein.
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  Black implied that Epstein was doing things to Redacted. The
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  schools and the police were all under his control. Lots
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  of strange people call redacted saying they knew Epstein. Later on,
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  Redacted is introduced to Glenn Maxwell, Prince Andrew, and the Dubans.
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  Black did not want Redacted to have sex with other
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  men until later on. In twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, Redacted
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  graduates Redacted. While at school, she redacted to be not
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  be attractive. She was seeing a therapist and unhappy and stressed.
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  She had a hard time talking to people. Black would
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  take Redacted to a museum around this time and wouldn't
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  talk much. There was not much sex happening. Later, he
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  tells her if she continues to have sex, he can
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  help her stay in the country. Random people would be
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  mean to her, and Black would take the credit for it.
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  Black would give her Redacted loans and tell her he
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  knew that other people that she would go out with
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  who were from Epstein's circle. Glenn Dubin's brother took Redacted out.
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  Mark Zuckerman took her out. Weinstein shows up at her
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  apartment and says that he wants to give her a job.
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  Redacted had met him at Redacted prior to this. On
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  this occasion, which was around twenty thirteen twenty fourteen, Redacted
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  had just come home from a run and he was
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  in her apartment. She tells him that she's going to
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  shower and he walks into the shower. Redacted kicks him
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  out of the shower. Weinstein asked her to be involved
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  with his new reality show. He tells her that Black
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  owns all of the movie theaters and then he leaves.
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  Redacted would come to Redact it on vacation and try
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  to hang out with her. For Alan Dershowitz's deposition, it
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  was said she gave him a massage on Epstein's plane.
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  Redacted felt like they were all trying to frighten her.
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  Redacted state, She's not giving guys what they want. She
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  felt it's her fault. Redacted was not romantically involved with
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  anyone else at the time. She's sure that she had
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  sex with someone, but was not in a long term relationship.
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  From twenty thirteen on, Black would meet with Redacted or
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  reach out to her to say that he was behind
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  whatever is happening. Redacted is introduced to Prince Andrew. Black
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  implies that he knew what Redacted was wearing, as if
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  he was spying on her. They meet occasionally. Redacted tells
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  them she does not want to be sexually active with
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  them anymore. In two thousand and eight, they flew to
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  Epstein and Black says if she tells anyone, people will
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  find drugs on her or heroine. He was making jokes
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  that they can tamper with evidence and plan drugs. It
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  was a threatening conversation. She meets him for dinner once
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  and he tells her he feels weird that they're not
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  going to be able to have sex. Then he leaves
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  Redacted and Redacted feels sick. The next couple of days,
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  Redacted thought that she was poisoned. She had strange drinks
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  with a new person named Michael. Around July fourth, twenty fourteen,
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  Black comes to Redacted's old department when she's home and
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  not feeling well. He rings the bell. She tells them
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  that she would come down, and she opens the door
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  and he's already at the door and he walks in.
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  Someone let him in downstairs. Redacted tells him that she
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  thinks that she has been drugged. And she does not
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  want to have sex. He grabs her breast. She tells
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  him that she has to lie down. He comes to
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  her room and has sex with her. He almost carried
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  and pushed her inside the room. Redacted had no energy.
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  She sort of collapsed. Black took off his clothes. Redacted
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  with sick for days prior. She was perhaps wearing leggings
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  and some cotton top, but she's not sure. She is
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  sure that he took off her clothes. She told him
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  she didn't want to do this. She was upset and
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  wasn't really fully present. She couldn't move or do anything.
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  She had not eaten. She was on her back and
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  he had vaginal sex with her. He was on top
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  of her. He finished, gets up and says, now I
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  fucked you. He gets dressed in leaves. He removed all
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  of his clothes for this. He did not use a
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  condom and never used a condom. She told him that
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  she thought she was drugged and that she is going
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  back to redacted. He sarcastically says that he didn't expect that,
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  and then she leaves the country. She gives some of
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  her belongings away and puts it in storage. Black still
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  calls her. He says watch out for her son while
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  she's away. He says that he will be able to
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  do things to her while she's away. Black would reach
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  out to redact it until she would sign an NDA.
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  Redacted did not pay him back for the loans. The
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  money that she had when leaving the United States was
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  from Black. She signed another loan when she was leaving
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  the country, which he made her sign. He was threatening her,
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  so she didn't know why he gave her the loan.
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  She thinks it's because he was financially in control of
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  her life. Redacted still paid even after leaving after the rape.
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  When Blavotnick calls redacted and asks how she's feeling, she
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  tells him better. Black sends her flowers. Blovotnik invites Redacted
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  to a party and redacted. Then, when in redacted, Blavotnik
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  talks about the poisoning and it's a good thing to
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  stay out of New York and never go back in Redacted,
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  Black calls redacted. Redacted meets people from a circle, and
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  she moves to redacted. Six months later, people from a
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  circle try to talk to her. They first try to
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  convince her to talk to Black. Black sends redacted to
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  interviews in redacted and redacted. Redacted meets Black and redacted
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  after this, and he tells her he pays for her
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  to be threatened in her redacted and redacted. He tells
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  her that he can stop it if she takes the
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  money and signs the NBA. She tells them that she
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  doesn't want to pay. One month later, they meet and
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  he brings a document from a lawyer. He tells her
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  he will put her in prison if she doesn't take
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  the money. It was millions. He says that he will
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  support her for five years, then says he will support
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  her for ten years. He wanted her to meet with
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  lawyers to assign the NDA. Redacted was scared. She thinks
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  maybe he was recording her. Redacted never said anything about blackmail.
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  She had a hard time understanding what he wants. The
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  NDA was to help her, and he will do lots
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  of terrible things if she didn't take the money. They
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  meet and redacted. He tells her to meet a lawyer
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  and talk about immigration. He starts yelling at her redacted
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  in public and says, I'll put you in prison. I
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  work for the FBI. I'll make your life miserable, Redacted
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  walks away. He then texts her that he will send
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  her money each month to help with her visa, but
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  she has to meet with him. She meets him again
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  and he brings paper about getting rid of the loan
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  and that she can never talk about him directly or implied.
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  He promises to give her money. The paper says that
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  they had a fight which was resolved. She never gets
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  a copy of the document in her Around twenty fifteen
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  was the last time that they had talked. After he
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  sent her to Ballet. They had texted. Redacted had been
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  getting money from him until Redacted. He had been sending
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  her one hundred grand every month. Redacted had speculated a
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  sex trafficking ring because he was friends with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  One of his girlfriends is redacted, who started an art
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  gallery called Redacted. Black wanted them to have threesomes. Around
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  two thousand and eight. There was another Redacted girlfriend who
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  was introduced to Black by Epstein. Black would brag until
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  Redacted that he had other girlfriends. Redacted is not sure
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  if he was abusive with them, but she assumed his girlfriend.
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  Redacted tells Redacted that she wanted out of this relationship.
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  They looked physically and emotionally, stressed on, healthy and worn down.
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  Redacted cannot vouch for the other woman being trafficked, but
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  she thinks they were. Black would tell Redacted he was
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  having sex with them and they were working. Her first
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  sexual encounter with them was in his studio and the
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  mattress was on the floor. This studio was in the redacted.
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  Black would demand that Redacted was loving in text messages
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  in which she wasn't, but he was. Redacted was on
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  the phone, and it's deleted. She may have some texts,
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  but not many because he called her more often. Redacted
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  told her she wanted to get out. Redacted met her
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  when she was seeing him and Redacted wasn't. It was
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  in a nightclub. She said she wanted to date another
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  man but couldn't stand the guy she was currently with.
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  She did not specifically mention Black, but says it's a
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  guy she met through Epstein. Black took Redacted to his
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  house in the Hamptons and Bedford. His wife would be around.
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  His wife was around with them at dinner. On one occasion.
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  Black kept an apartment across the street from his house.
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  His wife saw them going in there once he only
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  knew of this number for text. He reached out to
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  redact it after redacted and asked redacted to call him.
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  He asked her what she's doing, and she didn't respond
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  to this text. Then Black issued a statement to the
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  redacted all right, folks, that's going to do it for
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  the three to zero two of the accusations made against
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  Leon Black. All the information that goes with this episode
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  can be found in the description box.