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  Speaker 1: into the Buffalo Bills versus Denver Broncos wild card matchup
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  Speaker 1: that will take place this Sunday, one pm Eastern in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: The playoffs are here, I guess maybe not necessarily a given,
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  Speaker 1: considering the revamp the Bills went this offseason and some
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  Speaker 1: questions around the team below, and behold, the Bills have
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  Speaker 1: locked up the two seed, really have locked that up,
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  Speaker 1: and the division kind of things under wraps for several
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  Speaker 1: weeks and so not too much drama or anxiety down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch for that aspect, and they head into the
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  Speaker 1: wildcard round as the two seed facing the seventh seed
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  Speaker 1: in the Denver Broncos, a team that maybe some potentially
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  Speaker 1: might be overlooking, some may be potentially overestimating. We are
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  Speaker 1: going to dive into those aspects of the matchup and
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  Speaker 1: all of the minutia, the details, the niche aspects in
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  Speaker 1: terms of determining who will win this game, why, how,
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  Speaker 1: all of those sorts of things and to do that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not alone. That's why I said we a whole
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  Speaker 1: bunch to have this conversation. I am joined by probably
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  Speaker 1: this one of my favorite guest whoever, well, one of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite guests, I should say to Grace the show,
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  Speaker 1: but definitely the most frequent non Bill's guest. Extending his
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  Speaker 1: non Bill specific person guest record two. I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know what it is at this point, but I should
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  Speaker 1: probably get a jersey and hang it up in the rafters.
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  Speaker 1: Mister JP Acosta of SB Nation, genuinely, you are one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite follows on Twitter. I mean, you know ball,
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  Speaker 1: and you love wrestling and anime and stuff, so you're
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  Speaker 1: right up my alley. But your knowledge of football, your
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of the game, your sense of humor, all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure fans and watchers of this show know you
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  Speaker 1: at this point, but you're awesome. Thank you for taking
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  Speaker 1: the time to join me and welcome to the show again.
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  Speaker 1: For I think this is six, it might be seven,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. It's a lot at this point. I'm
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  Speaker 1: losing count.
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  Speaker 4: This is it's amazing. Thank you so much for having
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  Speaker 4: me on again.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this is like the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: Undertaker streaking many.
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  Speaker 4: I gotta keep going, we gotta keep running score.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta try and build a lead so far out
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna take like an act of God for somebody
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  Speaker 2: to pass it.
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  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that a lot. It's funny
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  Speaker 1: with I at least once a month, no, Lie, I
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  Speaker 1: will just watch the clip whichever Mania was where he
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  Speaker 1: faces Triple H in the cell and Michael's is a
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  Speaker 1: special guest referee. The super kick into the pedigree into
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  Speaker 1: the kickout is one of the best like false finishes ever.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's just so I wasn't even watching WW at
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  Speaker 1: that time, but it's so good.
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  Speaker 2: You can hear the crowd like get up for it,
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  Speaker 2: like they're ready to see it. And then he kicks
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  Speaker 2: out and then just all the air comes out the
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  Speaker 2: building and that before that is wrestling. Yeah, like that's
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  Speaker 2: exactly what you want.
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  Speaker 1: And Michael sells it so beautifully, like he's so upset
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  Speaker 1: at himself, but also that Taker kicked out and he
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  Speaker 1: just like cowers into the corner and like.
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  Speaker 4: So good at being frustrated he is.
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  Speaker 1: It pains me how good he always was, and it
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  Speaker 1: is like as a diehard bredtheart per I will forever
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  Speaker 1: hate Sean Michaels. But yeah, that's just because that's such
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  Speaker 1: an awesome finish, like Taker loses but also kind of
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  Speaker 1: got screwed over, so you can extriplate a moment, yes,
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  Speaker 1: like all these things, so you're like, okay, I could
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  Speaker 1: buy this finish, and then he kicks out and you're
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  Speaker 1: like no that it just keeps going, yeah, nice, nice,
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  Speaker 1: We're starting to hit. It is incredible.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of my favorite false finishes.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's one one of my favorite false finishes
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  Speaker 2: will always be where like one of the wrestlers hits
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  Speaker 2: the finisher and the other one barely gets his shoulder
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  Speaker 2: up like just like rolls over like the moves, or
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  Speaker 2: like the moments spots and matches where like the heel
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  Speaker 2: is gonna go hit his finisher and the babyface just falls.
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  Speaker 4: One of my favorite spots.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say I first saw that with in
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  Speaker 1: one of the Kenny Omega versus Kazuo Okada, like one
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  Speaker 1: of their series where Okada goes to hit the rain
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  Speaker 1: Maker and he pulls them and Kenny just falls down
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  Speaker 1: to his knees like exhausted, And then what I loved
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  Speaker 1: is after that Jay White started doing it, but like Tatroll,
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  Speaker 1: like he would fall down on purpose and just smirk
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  Speaker 1: with that like that shit eating grin that he has.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the best, like in the business right now.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of things, but that kick out at like
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  Speaker 1: two point nine, especially when he's a heel, Like you
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  Speaker 1: think he's done it, he just gets the shoulder up
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh and it's so close. Yeah, I gotta.
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  Speaker 4: Shirt. Kurt Angle was really good at like the almost kickout.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, maybe I feel like we now I just want
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  Speaker 1: to talk wrestling a whole bunch, but I guess we
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  Speaker 1: should probably talk about Bill's Broncos a game that you
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking about this Actually, oh hold on night,
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  Speaker 1: we got a super chat here from Carl. Carl, thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much for being here. Thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for the super chat and the donation, all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. I appreciate you being here. Thank you very
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  Speaker 1: much for the for the money and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Carl says, I'm still in a holiday mood, and so
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  Speaker 1: here you go a little something something for you. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that, Carl. He says, let's go win us a
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl. Well, we have four games to ball out
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  Speaker 1: and this is our year. I have confidence in our team.
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  Speaker 1: Jpu and I were talking about this a little bit
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  Speaker 1: offline before we went live, and this kind of leads
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  Speaker 1: into the first question that I wanted to ask you.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of Bills fans are riding high
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  Speaker 1: rightfully so the way this team has looked this year,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen being in the MVP conversation, which we'll touch
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit later. But this Bill's team comes
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  Speaker 1: into the playoffs strong as the two seed facing the
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  Speaker 1: seventh seed, a Broncos team that has some questions in
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  Speaker 1: a multitude of areas. I think the majority of Bill's
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  Speaker 1: mafia feels good and confident about this game. But this
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  Speaker 1: is actually a really good schematic matchup between the two
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  Speaker 1: high level talk about you know, your thoughts for this game,
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  Speaker 1: because you and I were talking about it offline. Is
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  Speaker 1: this being like your favorite matchup of the week.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people did the thing where ah,
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  Speaker 2: the Bengals should have made it. The Bengals would have
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  Speaker 2: been a much more interesting matchup than like the Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: and I was never a part of that game. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to see the Bengals attempt to tackle anybody anymore.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good on just not watching their defense ever. Again,
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  Speaker 4: like I'm glad that they didn't make it.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think this Broncos team we talked about about
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  Speaker 2: it a little off off the shove, But the first
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  Speaker 2: time you brought me on this season, we talked about
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals game and I said, that was the FAFL
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  Speaker 2: game you f round and find out this is the
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  Speaker 2: same type of game against the Broncos team that I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they're necessarily as talented in course spots as
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  Speaker 2: the Bills, but they are incredibly well coached and they
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  Speaker 2: execute at a very high level on both sides of
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  Speaker 2: the ball. So I think this game is going to
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  Speaker 2: really stress some parts of the Bills team on both
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  Speaker 2: sides of the ball. And of course, if the Bills win,
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  Speaker 2: they can use that as evidence and use it as
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  Speaker 2: development for where they're trying to get to, which is
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  Speaker 2: a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's I love. First of I love those points
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  Speaker 1: kind of setting the own and tempo for this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Just yeah, the it's funny. There's I think there's several
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  Speaker 1: standout players like like smattered along the Broncos team, but
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  Speaker 1: there's I think there's questions that like a multitude of
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  Speaker 1: position groups, but then you just look at like certain
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  Speaker 1: aspects on the defensive side of the ball, which we'll
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  Speaker 1: touch on, and then this offense really kind of just
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  Speaker 1: turning into oh, Okay, they're coach by Sean Payton. That
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  Speaker 1: makes sense, Like that kind of offense, Like so many
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  Speaker 1: things are just like, well, Sean Payton's like doing Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton's stuff just the way that he and I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to I don't mean this as like a negative
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  Speaker 1: or like a detraction towards Bonnicks, but the way he's
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  Speaker 1: just insulated him in that scheme and in that structure
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  Speaker 1: while playing to his strengths and mitigating areas of concern potentially,
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  Speaker 1: Like I I mean, I don't think Bonix is like
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  Speaker 1: blowing the doors off the league or anything, but I
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  Speaker 1: definitely like made sarcastic tweets when he went in the
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  Speaker 1: first round to the Broncos and the draft, like and
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  Speaker 1: I remember there was some dude in the back of
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  Speaker 1: the Bronx Coast war room who was like like this
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  Speaker 1: right when they announced the pick, and I like took
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  Speaker 1: a picture of it on my TV. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this guy is just as shocked as we are. Like
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  Speaker 1: I was there for the laughs and lo and behold.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, granted, is not just Bonnicks, but the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: are sitting here at ten and seven. Knix is having
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  Speaker 1: a good rookie season, you know, at his age thirty
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  Speaker 1: four to thirty five season. It with Sean Pavsary that's me,
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  Speaker 1: but with Sean Payton with that offense. And then you
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  Speaker 1: add what Vance Joseph has been able to do defensively
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  Speaker 1: after having a down year last year. I think most
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  Speaker 1: people remember Miami hanging what like seventy on them and yep,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody just falling all over themselves in Miami, and
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  Speaker 1: now to having the best corner in the in the
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  Speaker 1: world and on the planet, arguably the defensive player of
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  Speaker 1: the year. You lose Justin Simmons, You retool in a
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  Speaker 1: multitude of ways, the defense comes together, the offense does
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton things, and you're sitting there at ten and
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  Speaker 1: seven and kind of being overlooked, maybe potentially going into
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  Speaker 1: this game against the Bills.
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  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that I learned from this season,
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  Speaker 2: especially with watching the rookie quarterbacks, is sometimes operating a
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  Speaker 2: Beanie baby offense is fine, especially as a rookie, because
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  Speaker 2: once to a good coordinator will maximize the strengths and
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  Speaker 2: hide the weaknesses of your quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Both Knicks is not setting the world.
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  Speaker 2: On fire, but he is absolutely maximizing what he can
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  Speaker 2: do in the Sean Payton offense. He's operating that offense. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's tearing the world up. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying he is an elite quarterback. But what I am
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  Speaker 2: saying is that sometimes like it's okay just to operate
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  Speaker 2: the offense at a fine level, and being a fine
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  Speaker 2: quarterback in your rookie year is more than fine. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's okay to operate the beanie baby like babies first
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  Speaker 2: NFL offense. You know, you you don't have to get
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  Speaker 2: in and start doing like the high level like masters
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  Speaker 2: course qbing stuff, because you gotta start. You gotta start
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  Speaker 2: with your one on one classes. So operating the babies
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  Speaker 2: first NFL offense is hot.
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  Speaker 1: I like the baby the beady baby line. Yeah, getting
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  Speaker 1: here like your Disney Junior, like Bluie ariel Well, Blue
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  Speaker 1: is an elite show. I don't care if it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Blue is like legit like that's a legit Show's.
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  Speaker 4: Those for adults, but mass as a children show.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's all these like really just clever like episodes
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  Speaker 1: and lines and like some will like make you think
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  Speaker 1: as an adult like oh I connect with that, and
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  Speaker 1: then some like are tugging on your heart strings and
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  Speaker 1: you know, like some little three year oldor four year
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  Speaker 1: old isn't picking up on that. They made that for
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  Speaker 1: the adults. Yeah, that show slaps, but yeah, I like
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  Speaker 1: the Yeah, that's the Beauty Baby Disney Junior kind offense.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it is. But again Nix has done well
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  Speaker 1: in it. Sean Payne has continued. My favorite thing is
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  Speaker 1: with the people who are like, you know, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: they got like no wide receivers, so what are they
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  Speaker 1: gonna do? The Like Sean Payton really never has done that.
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  Speaker 1: It was like Robert Meacham and Ted Ginn and Devrey
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  Speaker 1: Henderson and all these dudes, and he just he knows.
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  Speaker 1: I respect very much that Sean Payton knows who and
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  Speaker 1: what he is and came into Denver and was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to spend money here, I'm cutting this guy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm changing this position, I'm doing this, and it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, ooh, that's like that's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money for Mike McGlinchey, and that's a lot of money
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  Speaker 1: for like Ben Powers, and you're getting rid of this
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  Speaker 1: guy and you're getting rid of that guy. And it
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  Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I guess maybe we should have had
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  Speaker 1: a little more faith potentially in Sean Payton. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: here come the Broncos as that seven seed into Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: to face the Bills. Who are the two that is
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  Speaker 1: the table setter for this conversation that JP and I
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  Speaker 1: are going to have. Folks are not familiar with the show,
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  Speaker 1: what we're going to do, or he's going to give
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  Speaker 1: our top three matchups that we think will decide Bills
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  Speaker 1: versus Broncos. It could be very broad. It could be
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  Speaker 1: super niche down and detailed. It could be high level.
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  Speaker 1: It could be myopic, what myppic would be negative. It
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  Speaker 1: could be player based. It could be an entire side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball. It could be schematic and structural personnel grouping,
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  Speaker 1: an individual player matchup, anything in every everything is on
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  Speaker 1: the table. Obviously, we'd like to emphasize scheme and structure
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  Speaker 1: and the x's and os here on this show. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what you will get in the majority of this conversation. JP,
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  Speaker 1: you are the guest, and I say this every time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you have them ranked three two, one, one,
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  Speaker 1: two three, if they're all equal, but the floor is yours.
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  Speaker 1: Choose whichever matchup you want to start with first and
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  Speaker 1: kick us off here.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna start with a matchup that I actually
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  Speaker 4: wrote about first.
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  Speaker 2: That was the fun my massive Wildcard weekend preview where
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  Speaker 2: I break down the matchups in every Wildcard game this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: starting with the Bills and Broncos, And the first one
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  Speaker 2: that I came up with was the Bills offense against
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  Speaker 2: Denver's man covering. This is the most interesting part, is
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  Speaker 2: the biggest part of who's going to win who isn't
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  Speaker 2: going to win?
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 2: The Broncos are third in the NFL in total snaps
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  Speaker 2: of man coverage per Sports Info Solutions, and the reason
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  Speaker 2: why this is so important is because they can live
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  Speaker 2: in man coverage. They have the personnel to live in
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  Speaker 2: man coverage. When you have Patrick's fan the second on
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  Speaker 2: one side, you just throw the other way, like there's
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  Speaker 2: no point in throwing at whoever is defending being defended
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  Speaker 2: by packs or hand he won't travel, but that side
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  Speaker 2: of the field is done.
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  Speaker 4: You don't throw at him.
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  Speaker 2: This is very this should very much look like the
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  Speaker 2: Derek Stingley junior portion of the Bills game against the
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  Speaker 2: text don't throw at that guy.
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  Speaker 1: What you also joined me for. You also joined me
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  Speaker 1: for Bill Texans. So this is another yep, yep, man,
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  Speaker 1: You've you've had all the good ones this year.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the reason why this is so important is because
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  Speaker 2: of how the Broncos play up front, as good as
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  Speaker 2: they are in man coverage and how they can play
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  Speaker 2: cover one. They can spin guys into the box, so
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  Speaker 2: they have the numbers against the run, so.
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  Speaker 4: You you might think, yeah, they're playing light on the edges.
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  Speaker 2: They have a two hundred and forty pound edge of
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  Speaker 2: Nick Benito, a two forty five in John Cooper, and
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  Speaker 2: a two forty in uh k not Kings.
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  Speaker 1: Dona Ellis, Dude, I do that all the time, friggin
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  Speaker 1: stupid Kaden Ellis and linebacker and then Jonah Ellis now
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  Speaker 1: and there. Their last names are both spelled the same
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  Speaker 1: with the double l's and the double s's. It throws
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  Speaker 1: me off every time. Same thing with them. I called
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  Speaker 1: Jakwan McMillan for Denver. I call him Jaylen McMillan all
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  Speaker 1: the time, even though he's not like. It's driving me nuts,
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  Speaker 1: even though the McMillan's are spelled different. Sorry, it's just
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  Speaker 1: a pep.
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  Speaker 2: Peeve continued, there's so many Ellis's, Luther Ellis, you have done.
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  Speaker 2: You've done an incredible job of putting all your children
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  Speaker 2: into the NFL. Welcome the influx of quality of the
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  Speaker 2: players coming from Luther Ellis. But what this man comfort
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: does so well is they're able to play heavier against
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the run numbers wise, and then against teams like the Bills.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: You think you can just leave your corners away.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: You can leave them alone and you're defending like patzertan
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: on Amari Cooper or Coleman, which is an advantage.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: For the other side.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: The problem there for the Broncos is the shredded man
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: coverage this year, specifically with Josh Allen scrambles.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: So I went and found this out Pursuer Sports.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: One of the biggest reasons why Josh Allen's game is
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: kind of taken off this year is he's kind of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: done the thing where he's super efficient against zone and
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: then he kind of does the Josh Allen stuff against
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: man coverage, so he's actually scrambling much less against zone coverage.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: He's six and a half percent scramble rate against zone,
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: which is high, but it's not abnormal.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Against man coverage, it jumps to nine point six percent.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: They know that when you get man coverage, Josh Allen
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: goes into angry Ostrich mode and he just takes off
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: the ball. And that's kind of when you remember games
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: where the Bills faced a lot of teams playing man coverage,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of the explosives came from Josh Allen using
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: his legs to scramble or Josh Allen using his legs
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: to end the design to be game. Now, the problem
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: there for the Bills is the Broncos are actually really
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: good at defending scrambles. They're one of the best teams
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: in the NFL defending scrambles. I believe they give up
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: They only give up a forty seven point one per
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: cent success rate against QB scrambles during Again, they're an
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: incredibly smart, incredibly well coached team. I don't think vance
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Joseph gets a lot of credit for what he's done
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: with this defense. This defense is so disciplined, so you're
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: probably wondering, how does this how you break this man coverage?
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: They're not very good at defending running backs.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And I said this in the story that I wrote,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: this is a big Ti Johnson got to be.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: It's gotta be a big Ti Johnson game. That is there.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: He's not the receiving backs.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I think James can be a good receiver, but lately
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: during the last stretch of the season, Ty Johnson has
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: seen a lot of targets, specifically.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: In man coverage.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So with SIS, Josh Allen's been charted with eighteen passing
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: attempts to running backs against man coverage. On those eighteen attempts,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: he is fifteen of eighteen. He has thrown four touchdowns
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and has a seventy seven point eight percent positive player
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So they just spread a ponent and I think if
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: you look back at the Detroit game and how they
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: got Ti Johnson involved early and often as a receiver,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to be the key to this game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I think getting Ty Johnson and getting James Cook isolated
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: on these linebackers, who if there's any weak point of
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: this Broncos defense, it is the linebackers. You have to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: try and isolate them. So I would say you gotta
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: go after the linebackers and man coverage. Ty Johnson is
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: gonna play a big role, and then of course if
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you're gonna play man coverage, you have to resort to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen scramble mode.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: There's so much to unpack there for me because this
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: is pretty much super heavily tied to, if not one
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: of my actual points too. So I brought titled it
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Broncos coverage versus Bill's passing offense. But I'm in a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: very similar mode here. So starting with the I kind
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: of work backwards. So starting with the running backs is
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: like the pass catching option here. Denver very good defense
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: as a whole. I've got stats for days that will
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: go over throughout multiple points in topics that I have.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: But despite being like a tremendous defense in terms of DVOA,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: they're thirty first in DVA against running backs. And you've
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: got this offensive coordinator and Joe Brady who is very
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: adept at scheming his running backs in the pass game.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Whether it's Cook, whether it's Davis, whether it's Ty Johnson.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: You were going to see some mesh rail. You are
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: going to see running back mesh traffic or slither as
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Joe Brady calls it, You're gonna see him tie into that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Then add in the fact of you know, this Broncos defense,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: really good front Pat certained in the secondary, Rithy Moss
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: kind of doing his thing, Brandon Jones being better than
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: he gets credit for PJ. Lock is fun where's the weakness? Oh,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the linebackers, even when they were healthy with Alex Singleton,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: but he's out and it's like, okay, attack those linebackers.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Plus the man coverage piece, let's tie that in. The
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Bills offense this year has faced the highest cover one
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: rate at twenty nine point four percent, also the highest
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: single high coverage rate at sixty two point three percent,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a product of that being their run game being a threat,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: plus the formations in personnel they use, and a little
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: bit of how their wide receiver room is built the Broncos.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You gave the volume stats, I have the overall rate.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: So it's funny how we're in lockst up there the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Broncos eighth highest cover one rate, seventh highest man coverage rate,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: fifteenth overall in single high rate. So you've got this
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: offense that a ton of teams like to play single
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: high and man coverage against. You've got this Broncos team
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that is top ten and Cover one usage rate and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: top ten in man coverage rate, and then you talk
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: about this Bill's offense again, I alluded to it a bit.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You want to stop the run game, and I think
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the combination of the run game and the Bills not
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: having necessarily like true separators at the pass catching position
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is why teams feel comfortable going single high and or
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: going man coverage. And when it got bad before the
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Bills got a Marty Cooper, we really saw that Ravens
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: game and that Texans game. Teams with athletic and or
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: good corners were like, well, we're just going to cover
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: your guys in man, or we're gonna go cover three
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and essentially it's playing one on one on the outside.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to load the box and then we don't
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: think your guys can beat us on the outside. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: if Allen does something crazy, okay, cool, Alan does something crazy,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: but we think the odds are in our favor. And
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I still think the key to beating the Bills offense
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is pretty much that philosophy load the box. Stymy the run,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: try and take advantage of the Bills pass catchers not
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: being a group that's known for separating. And I think
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: if you can, if you can make the Bills offense
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: live in a world where they have to stay in
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: an instructure passing game, and if you can do that,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you know, again, usually that's tied to having good athletic qbs.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: And so then here's the Broncos, who have the best
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: quarterback on the planet, who are comfortable playing man and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: single high, who are good versus the run. Second in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: rushing DVOA, first in EPA per rush, third in stuff rate,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: eighth in rush yards over expected per rush, eleventh in
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: yards before contact per rush, and fourth in yards after
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: contact per rush. All that tying into several questions I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: have for this game. Who does passer tain cover? Do
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: they go? Is he? Are they putting them on Cooper
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: every time? Are they putting them on the number two?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Do they shade them Mark Cooper? Do they think they
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: have to shade anybody? Do they feel confident just being
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: one on one? But it all starts with Sirtan, that
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: domino effect. Second part of that, can the Bills get
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: keon Coleman on Riley? Moss and can he win that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: matchup with the size and frame advantage A La I'm
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: not making this comp because they're not the same player,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: but a La T. Higgins, can you get Keon Coleman
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to play bully ball win the size and athleticism matchup?
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Or is that maybe not a thing because they want
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to put pat On Coleman? Maybe that thing also tying
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: into that, Can the Bills run the ball well enough
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that having to rely on the instructure pass or the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: pass in general doesn't even matter. I think the Bronco
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was over on. We talked about it offline and a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: little bit in the lead end of this episode.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I think the.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Broncos defense has somewhat of a blueprint to slow the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Bills offense down. This is also tying into one of
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: my other points later and then make Alan have to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: be the mutant alien Unicorn to beat them, which you
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: can do. He can turn into the angry Ostrich. It's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: just a hard way to It's hard to predominantly live
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that way, but I look for the Broncos to do that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Say you know what, We're not gonna let you beat
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: us with the run. We are going to try and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: smother the pass catchers and you know, squeeze windows and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: restrict the airspace. And if Alan does something crazy, Alan
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: does something crazy, but we're going to try and make
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: him have to do something crazy, either with his arm
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: or with his legs, over and over and over again.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And when you talk about that front, when you talk
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: about Pat on the back end, and even some of
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: their coverage structure stuff in general, and also I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: even part of that too, we're talking about the man
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: coverage piece. When going back and watching much of the tape,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: like they're doing some really fun, like non traditional Tampa
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: stuff where they're like who they're spinning down is like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the pole runner or the Tampa player. They're doing like,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know, the Tampa two robber, Tampa two hole, depending
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: on what school of thought you are with how you're
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: labeling it. They had one rep against against the Bucks,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and I believe it. I mean I was watching a
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: bunch of it yesterday. All these games went into one.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah it was. I think it was the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Brandon Jones interception on a corner rock to Mike Evans
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: where the dB travels with Kadotten or pain Durham coming
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: in motion. And then how Riley Moss is a line.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Pat is lined up in the slot on Mike Evans.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: McMillan's lined up on the outside. I believe on Godwin
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: because before Godwin went down, Singleton is lined up off
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: ball but over Bucky Irving. Everything about it screams, okay,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: this is man coverage. Then you send a guy in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: motion and the guy travels with him, so another man indicator.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Then on the snap they drop to a non traditional Tampa.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Pat stays in the slot and drops as a hook
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: girl player. McMillan their normal nickel AKA normally in the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: slot drops as a cloud corner. They spin Jones as
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: an interception like they're doing all this fun like coverage spins. Oh,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that was a drop. Eighth they did that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on the non traditional Tampa was another. Like they just
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: get into this fun coverage stuff in addition to just
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: being like, well we're gonna go straight up man. Then
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you add the blitz rate. They're a top blitzing team.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: They pressure the QB. How that all ties into coverage, Like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: they do some really fun stuff on the back end
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: aside from just we're gonna play man or single high
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: because we have the dudes who can do it. How
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that matches with the Bills. It's just a lot of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: fun stuff Schematically, I'm excited.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun stuff stematically.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: But I also think this Broncos team is really good
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: at the little thing about playing defense. They tackle really well.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You look at FDN's adjusted lineyards, they're third and stuff
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: rate with the third highest stuff rate in the entire league.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: They will get you behind the sticks very often. We
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: talked about offline. DJ Jones is one of my favorite
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: players to watch him. If you are looking for a
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: singular player to look out for in this game outside
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of Pat Japan, DJ Jones is what makes that run
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: defense go because he beats everybody like it does not
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: matter if it's the left guard, center, right guard. He
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: wins with power. He can be quick off the ball.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna give you much as a pass rusher,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: although he can do that, but he is a monster
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: against the run. And then Zach Allen, who is probably
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: going to be an All Pro this year, might be
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: an All Pro this year doing his best JJ Watt
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: impression with the number ninety nine and the elbow brace
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and his timing off the ball really stands out. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: think this could be a game where you see a
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: lot of dummy counts from the Bills, not only to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: kind of get an easier tell for what the Broncos
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: are trying to do, but to try and get that
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: uber aggressive defense to jump off side and give you
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: five three yards. So I wouldn't be surprised if there's
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of dummy counts in this game. If there's
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: something where if Joe Brady and Josh Allen c in
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the lead up that Zach Allen is timing these snaps,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you gotta try and throw them off a little bit,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: because if you just let them te off on you,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a major problem. And they can
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: do that so well in the run game because they're
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: not afraid of leaving their corners out the tackle. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: in man coverage, if you're we'll take duo, which is
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: something the Bills run a lot. If your receiver comes
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: down to block that slot or that safety guy, you're
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: trying to leave the corner and force the corner to tackle.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: The problem is all those corners want to tackle like
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: they will all come hit you in the mouth. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing for this game is with
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Riley Moss back in the lineup. He had an injury
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: during the little part of the season where they got
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: kind of slow. But with Riley Moss on the field,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: their man coverage rate goes from thirty one to thirty
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: seven percent. The rat goes from twenty six to thirty
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: six percent. They are more comfortable doing the stuff that
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: they enjoy with Riley Moss on the field, and so
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: with Moss on.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: The field, mc millan in the slot, Pats are tan.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: They have found this trio of corners that really works
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: for them because they wear so many different hats, like
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: you said, with that rep of a dropping eight, the
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Tampa Foo stuff they do, and it's just they wear
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: They do so many different things, and that's what makes
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: them so incredibly well coached. It's so difficult to kind
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: of game plan for because the only not the only way,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: but one of the ways you could possibly see the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Bills going after them is.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: You got to hit the edges. You have to try
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and hammer them.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: And the one game that I'm thinking of for the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Broncos is against the Ravens where they kind of whack
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: them over the head with power and counter where okay,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you I love Nick Benne and I love Jonah Ellis,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: but them against the run, they will go flying up.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Yes there they want to try and get they want
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: to play.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: The pass to the run. They're gonna get upfield, use
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: their speed and try and affect the quarterback.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: But that's gonna leave you out of the lane.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: And when it comes to the run thick and they're
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: also two hundred and forty pounds.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: As much as we kind.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Of try and go away from the meathead analysis of football,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: getting hit a.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Lot by guys that are one hundred pounds bigger.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Than you hurts, especially in January. It is the Marshan
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Lynch run through Mfor's space over over.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: It's going to hurt.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: So I expect a lot of dark, a lot of
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the tackle dart where you're trying you're just trying to
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: hit them, just trying to wear them down because not
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: only will you affect the run game, but you're gonna
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: slow them up in the passing game and try and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: buy some time a little bit.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I like that, I you know, it's funny. In my
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: just notes in general from like some of my charting
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: stuff and scouting stuff, Like I said, like to attack
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the Broncos defense with the run, gap runs with misdirections.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: So if you can hit counter, if you want to
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: go zone, go split zone, like anything that has that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: eye candy element something to kind of create that little
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: hesitation or that little let's shift over a gap and
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: then try to puncture them, you know. And watching the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Ravens game, seeing what the Seahawks did to them a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: little bit, seeing what the Bucks did a little bit,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: seeing what the Chargers did a little bit, a lot
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: of yeah, like, let's we're getting polars, We're getting gap
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: scheme stuff, whether it's pin and poll, whether it's counter
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: some of the creative counter looks that the Chargers got
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: into where Seattle got into, and the Bills have been
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: dialing up some of that. They are not a big
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: counter team in any way. You are gonna get mid zone,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: some more inside zone this year as well. But you're
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: gonna get mid zone. You're gonna get the tackle pole stuff,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, dart or long trap, and then
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get duo. It's and they're whatever they think
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: is best for any one particular game. That's what they're
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: gonna spam. That's what they're gonna lean into and then
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: they'll mix in some other stuff. But since that Detroit game,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: they've been running counter and not just counter. They're running
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: like the variations with it in terms of, hey, let's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: put a six offensive lineman on the field. Is our
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: inline tight end, Let's motion him with Reggie Gilliam in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the backfield out a pistol, and now we're running like
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: we're essentially running GF counter, but the g is our
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: pulling tight end that we sent in you know, blast
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: motion before the snap, but we snapped the ball when
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: he's right behind our guard. Some of that stuff worked
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: well against the Broncos used by a variety of teams,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and the Bills kind of lean into that heavy world.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Can they pull that off? I look for that type
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of their run scheme and run game was already I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: thought diverse, and then what it has been the past
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, excluding this game against New England and
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: even the game against the Jets a little bit as well,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: but Gamescript kind of made that what it was just
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: adding you know counter in general. They ran some traditional
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: counter and then they ran some of the six offensive
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: linemen you know motion stuff, which was nice running you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: know traditional gap schemes. Maybe they work some power in
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: They're not really a team that runs a ton of power.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Do we see more Reggie Gillium, Like, how is that
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: factor in? I'm very interested with that, like just with
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: how that how important the run game is to them,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: how it can offset what the Broncos do. And then
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: also tying in one last piece regarding your first point
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that I don't think I mentioned enough, You mentioned Ty Johnson,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: which was nice. Ty Johnson's also the best pass protecting
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: running back on the Bills and the Broncos. Blitz they
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: will make your running back half to pass protect they
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: are bringing sims and creepers, but also traditional blitz is
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: they will send their linebackers and they are hunting. They're
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: trying to go through your running back to the quarterback
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and if you do not bring your sahi t into
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the hole to meet them in the A gap, they
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: will run through you. Barton and Strand or just like
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: we're coming, like we're gonna run through your face, like
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do the Marshawn Lynch like on that
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: side of the ball and in that role, and Cook
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: has been better. Still not a great pass protector. Ray
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Davis is fine, has had his moments, but positively and negatively.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: But Ty Johnson has just been this model of consistency
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: as a pass protector, but then adding what he can
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: do as a runner, adding what he can do as
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: a pass catcher, how he functions into this world. Yeah,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think this could be a game where like Ty
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Johnson ends up with the most snaps at running back,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: which might sound crazy considering James Cook kind of had
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: maybe like an all Pro type of year in terms
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: of productivity and usefulness to this offense. Yeah, I like
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: that a lot, you know, tying into your first point,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: my first point, the run pieces you mentioned, I like
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: that a lot. Anything else on that or do you
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: want to move on to your next point?
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: So mentioning a blitz is a really good point.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: That's something that the Broncos will do, and you've seen
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of it this year. Of course, we'll see
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: it a lot football with the Broncos are gonna try
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and pick. They're not just gonna bring guys. They're gonna
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: bring the with the attention of getting a big guy
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: on Ty Johnson or a big guy on a running back.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: They did a lot to the Broncos.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: They did a lot to the Jets where they would
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: bring Barton and he would go just flying right through
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the center or guard in a pit. It's basically you're
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: running to pick and roll in basketball and you have
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: your edge or you tackle loop around, and it's basically
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: like if Lebron played football, running right down to paint
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: and you're running back.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Is Jason Terry, you bet you better be ready, Like.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: You said, you bet you better eat so many weeks
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: before this game.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: Do some pushups, do some sit up some spots, maybe
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: you better bring it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's that's such a good example because they
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: even when they run some of the just like their
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: traditional like five man pressures. Even when they do like
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: some four down stuff, there's some kind of like gamesmanship
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: happening every once in a while. But yeah, when they
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: really get creative, when they're showing like six or seven
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: at the line, or they're just showing their regular like
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: three four base look with five down, Benito might drop.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Benito and Cooper both might drop, and they're sending both linebackers,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and so it's like it's Jones and Allen and both
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: linebackers and someone else. Benito's dropping and Cooper's dropping or
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Elis might drop, or someone's coming like DeAndre Tillman is
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: like doing fun stuff like there's just this is also
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: part of this is a whole other conversation that I
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: don't do want to open right now. But that's also
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: part of the reason why I always gravitate more towards
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: three four defenses because I feel like there's so much
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and granted you need you need the body types and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: the skill sets to be able to really fully unlock it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: But that type of defense where you don't know who's coming,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you don't know who's dropping, you don't know what's happening,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and you can mix all these coverages with these fronts
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and how to attack and dictate to an offense. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: think that's what the Broncos do a really good job
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: with to your point of dictating to an offense either
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: forcing them to keep a running back in and getting
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the matchup they want on that running back and pass
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: pro or making an offense keep him in falsely and
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: they're not actually gonna send a pressure and then they're
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: dropping out. Like I haven't seen a team in non
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: like third and long situations. I haven't seen a team
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: drop eight as much as like the Broncos like they'll
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: drop it on like third and four, third and three
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: second in this and I'm like, what, Like usually it's like, oh, okay,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: third and eleven, let's drop eight, or hey, we're in
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: the red zone against the Chiefs, let's drop eight. The
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Broncos like, no, we're just gonna do it kind of regularly.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And then they won't even do it from like, well,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: we're doing it at a dime. No, they're doing it
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: on a like base and Benito and Cooper dropping into
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: like the hook curls or.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Is like gets a lot of his picks where he's
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: just he's dropping and nobody thinks he's gonna drop and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: you throw the ball right to him. I think a
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: lot a big point for this game, and you kind
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: of saw it a little bit with the way that
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the Lions Vikings game turned out towards the end. It's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: really cool to do all the sim pressure stuff until
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: your safety has to meet alignment in the run game.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So if you want to stop all the sim pressures
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and you want to take some of the pressure off
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: of Josh Allen, you run the ball really well. I
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people are gonna run game YadA, YadA, YadA.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Running back running doesn't matter.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: If you want to get the if you want to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: get this blitz off, your ads, run the.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Ball like it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: It's it's very easy to kind of say, like make
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it simplistic like that. But when you're able to run
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the ball effectively, you can't do as much as the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: simulated pressure stuff because you can't drop alignment in a
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: in a hooked curl if you're running duo at it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: You know, and that's where you know, the heavy.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Play action stuff comes in when you you're able to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: run it effectively. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: pull out a little bit of the option stuff for
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen early in this game, the read option, the
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: counter bash stuff. I think if you bring some of
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: that stuff out early and make the Broncos acknowledge it
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: and defend it and keep it in their mind that way,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: it'll open up some of the offense.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Allen needs to come and roam and reigns
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: or I guess solo Socoa this depending on what side
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: of the bloodline you side with, and make the Broncos
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: defense acknowledge him. I love that too, Like just the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: anything that is adding gaps from to one side and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: removing them from another. I am a fan of in
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: this game against the Broncos defense. So give me counter,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: give me tackle poll stuff, give me QB counter bash,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: give me even just it could be a basic just
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: zone rate with Alan. Give me that idea of especially
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: with a player like Benito, even though maybe it's a
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: little dangerous because he's gonna fly ups field so fast
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna put Allen like you got to make
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: that decision right away to like give it or keep it,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: but put them in hell, make them have to play
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: slow and if you run the ball effectively, one, you
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: take away that aspect of the past. But if they
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: can stay in you know, third and manageable, even though
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: again Denver will get creative on like third and short
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: with their coverage stuff. But if you can just keep
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: yourself out of these known you know, passing situations or
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: these true drop back situations in terms of uhh, we're
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: really opening ourselves up to some designer stuff or some
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: schemable stuff. Like you have to you have to stay
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: on the front foot and keep stay on schedule. As
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: corny as that sounds, stay on schedule, run the football,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: don't get into the predictable situation down in distance, YadA YadA.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: But that goes so far against this Broncos defense that
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: has really built well against both aspects of the run
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in the past in a multitude of ways. And then yeah,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: they like they want to attack, they want to hunt,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and you kind of maybe take that away a little
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: bit if you're staying in third manageable and then especially
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: with Allen, like third manageable, Okay, third and five, just
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: get three or four and then just sneak it with
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Alan on fourth and short from wherever you are because
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get it. And I'm still waiting for
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: the day when like that Alan tush push turns into
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: like something like a fake and like a pop pass
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to somebody or like they toss it or do a
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: jet sweep something where you're like or like Reggie Gilliam
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: lines up to push him and he actually, like Alan
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like shovels it to him between his legs and Gillium
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: takes off, Like I'm waiting for something crazy, are some
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: huge thing to pop off for it? Very good part, JP.
• 41:03
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• 41:11
  Speaker 1: little bit earlier, the Bills game. Obviously in this episode
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Bill's Broncos, but I have up here the NFL playoff bracket,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: both side AFC NFC you alluded to. It is this
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: for you if we're looking at this obviously we've got
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: some money lines attached and betting odds and all those
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: types of things, But looking at how round one, the
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: wildcard round, however you want to verbalize it is playing
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: out this week? Is this game the game of the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: week for you, from like an interest perspective or schematic perspective,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: And if there isn't, which game is or which one
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: can rival it the most from this opening weekend for you?
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I have three that I really am excited to watch.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: I think Bill's Broncos is definitely at the top. I
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: think this Broncos team can pose a lot of problems
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: for the Bills with how they're.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Built and how they want to win.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: But I also think the Bills can pose a lot
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: of problems for the Broncos because of how are built
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and how they want to win. So it's like it's
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of good versus good and trying to mask
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the weaknesses of each other. The other one that really
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: excites me is Commanders Bucks. This it's a rematch of
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: week one, but these teams are so different from week one,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: and I think I wrote it again I wrote about
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: for Espionation. But the thing that I'm watching is Jaydon
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Daniels against Todd Bowles and all the simulated pressures, because
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: if there's anybody who is the king of sim pressures
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, Todd Bowles gonna drop Beta Baya into
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: your hook of turl and.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Just pray for a lamada.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: He is going over the middle because Betaveya might swallow him,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: he might envelop him, you know. So I'm really excited
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: about that one. And then the last one is a
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: rematch for a few weeks ago in Week eight, which
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: is the Vikings Rams. And the reason I'm excited about
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: it is because that that game was very on flores,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Like they didn't blitz. They didn't blitz a lot because
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: you just can't blitz from step not anymore like don't
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: don't blitz him.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: Because he will he will hurt you going downfield.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I think Phill's fans understand if you blitz him, they
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: will he will find Cooper help or Pooper or Kula.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: But even in that game, the Vikings pressure rate of
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: eleven point two percent was the lowest pressure rate they've
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: had all seasons, or second lowest pressure rate they've had,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: opposite of the Lions game on Sunday. So this is
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: if this is going to be a win for the Vikings,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: this has to be a big game for John Grenard.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: That has to be a big game for the pass
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: rush because you have to try and win without blitzing.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You can send the sim pressures, but if they're not
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: getting home. It's the same thing with Todd Bowles and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: why the Bucks. You can struggle so much if the
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: sim pressures aren't getting home. You're dropping a two hundred
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: and seventy pounds lineman in coverage and he's he's like
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a thing one in the desert. He's lost. You'll want
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: him out there, You'll want to be out here. So
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: I'm really excited for those three games. But Bill's Broncos
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: is definitely my favorite match.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I like that obviously. I think you know we're going
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to continue discussing it here of why you know, Bill's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Broncos is so intriguing. I'm even from a non Bills perspective,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I think Bill's Broncos is extremely intriguing with how both
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: these teams come in and how they canmatically match up again, folks,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: which we will continue to talk about. I am interested
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: in Raven Steelers just because of the hatred. Like I've
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: said it on social I know you've echoed the same sentiment.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I want more hate back in sports, and especially in football,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: like I want to feel. I don't want everybody chilling
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: like at midfield before the game, talking and then dapping
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: up and be like, all right, man, have a good one.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I want blood feuds and I want hatred, and I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: feel like the closest thing we get to in the NFL,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: aside from Mike Evans and Marshawn Lattimore which we have
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: in box Commanders. So I'm hoping that gets ratchet up.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: But aside from like that individual blood feud Steelers Ravens
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: just I feel like always brings up, especially with Patric
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Queen being on the Steelers, Like I feel like anybody
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: who plays for these teams, it could be fifty years
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: down the road from now they inherit like that hatred,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: like it's passed down organizationally, it's generational like hatred that
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: is built into these teams. And in the playoffs, it's
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the third matchup of the year. I thought the Ravens
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: should have won both of them. They had some really
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: bad puck luck in the first one in Pittsburgh that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: they ended up losing that game, but then they handle
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: them the second time. But you just never know, Like
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the Steelers have this way of just dragging you down
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: into the mud to play their game of ball for
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: like ever, especially in the Tomlin era, like every game
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: is just like muddy and ugly, and even if they
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: lose and it never felt like they had a chance
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: to win, it's still like twenty three seventeen or the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Bengals game was a good example, this pack of weak again.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: The Bengals are just driving and driving and it's like nope,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: like not gonna score a touchdown, Nope, We're gonna stay
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: in oh Russ is gonna hit a shot up. Like
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: these little things just annoy the hell out of you
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: about this so blood feud potential AFC North football in
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the playoffs like great common here from k Morty, who
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: says Tomlin voodoo. The standard is the standard yep.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: See that's my call the uh the Steelers domain expansion.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: If you watch, you read Kuisen, the standard of the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: standard is the Steelers domain expansion. If you are in Acreisher,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: that game immediately becomes a Steeler football game. There will
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: be miss kicks, you will get a punt block, you
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: will get a muff funt like against the Bengals. What
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: was that muff funt to where the Steelers player recovers
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: it right as he's going out of bounds. That is
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the domain expansion that every game just becomes a Steeler
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: football game. And if say Flowers is healthy, I think
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: the Ravens win this game by a mile. But if not,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I could definitely feel this turning into like a real
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: like Battle of Staling Grand type of game.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Oh that's a good way to put it. Yeah, I
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: think that's super solid. So that is intrigues me. I'm
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: all into to Bucks and Commanders from multiple of the
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: reasons you mentioned. I also just think it's a shame
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: Godwin went down and Evans went down for a little bit,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: but he came through. Like the Bucks offense is sick.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Liam Cohene is putting together a good year. They have
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a good offensive line. Bucky Irving is tremendous from like
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a rushing standpoint, not just from like, oh rookie fun
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: like he could be the offensive rookie of the year.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: He's having a legitimate good like running back year as
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: a runner but also as a pass catcher. And then
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: there RB two is Rashad White, like if the defense
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: can just put something together, and then that defense is
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: going up against you know, I'm still kind of waiting
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: for Kingsbury's offense to hit like that back half of
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the year wall, but maybe they won't. Jay Daniels is
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: exciting McLaurin and that whole group. I'm excited for that.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, not to again knock Packers Eagles too
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: much or Chargers Texans. I echo your thoughts with vikings
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Rams for you know, not gonna speak too much on it,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: just Flores versus McVeigh. What do we get for around?
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: What else?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: What else do you need to say?
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: That's it?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: That's all they need, like Van Ginkel and Grenard and
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Smith and buying them and Puka and Cup and Kyron
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: like and everybody just going at it, like I just
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: want to see that. And then I really like Kobe
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Turner and I like Cam Kitchens and versus a dude
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like that, like is Sam Darnold back into a pumpkin?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Or was last week a blip? Like what's gonna happen? Like?
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I just so those are that from an entertainment standpoint.
• 48:25
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  Speaker 1: here from Logan who just yelled Josh Mattelus and all kinds. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the three safety looks for the Vikings, how they use them,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: how they deploy them. Yeah, they do so much fun
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: stuff with him. And then like the three safety looks
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and then Gilmore Griffin and Murphy, like who like being
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: able to move Murphy into the slots so Griffin can
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: play outside, and then what Gilmour gives you and all
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: the pieces for the Vikings defense, and just with how
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Flores plays, like nobody we talked about all the time,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: like all people adopt the Fangio method and like that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: tree and all that, Like no one's really out there
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: running Flores like Flores is like just all gas, no breaks,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: and no one's like, oh yeah, let me do the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Flores stuff for the Flores tree. He's just doing his thing.
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  Speaker 2: He has taken the Belichick defense and turned it up
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  Speaker 2: to three thousand.
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  Speaker 4: I make the funny.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I make this joke about joshpah Tellis, Well, my grandma,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: whenever we got hurt outside, it'd be a rub some
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: dirt on it. Gospitellis is the vikings dirt. They if
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: they have a problem, put some Josh Tellison. If you
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: you can't stop the run for josph tell us that,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: let let him help out in the run game.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: You can't come for titan, Josh Tellis, Boom, there you go.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Need somebody kind of help with the dig route and
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: kind of get underneath them there. You need need somebody
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to add on the little blitz. Josh tell Us, rub
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: some Josh tell Us one healthy. All right, it's like
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: that me that flexeal meme.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: If there's any holes on the Vikings bay.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Jospitellis, I like that or for like ah like the
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: like a dobo seasoning, like anything that needs season just
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: put some a dobo on it, like you're gonna go
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: like just thing that. I like that. You've rub some
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  Speaker 1: dirt on it. You got you got a hole in
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: your like a run fit. Put some I like that.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I like that. All right, let's get back into the
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: matchup pieces. We've talked about a bunch and done a bunch.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Have you hit your official second point or am I lost?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I have not?
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought, all right, So you're official unless
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you have something else you want to mention? What you can.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: But if you want to go that way cool or if
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you want to go right into your second matchupiece, Flori's yours.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Whatever you want, you got it, so ill on.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: My second matchup.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: And as much as I said, like bow Knicks has
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: played well this season within the constraints of the offense,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the Bills need to make him a drop back past
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: on a Saturday, I think this game is going to
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: be one or lost based on who can affect the quarterback. Nice,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I think we can minute, we can get
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: into the nitty gritty. We can get real hyper specific,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: but playoff football football in general, but playoff football is
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: one on the offensive and defensive line trenches.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: Trenches are where you win football games.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: And so when you look at bow Knicks and how
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: he plays using play action, bow Knicks using play action
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: has a point one EPA for play ten ten half
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: total ep A seven point four says scramble ray eleven
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: passing touchdowns, two interceptions with play action. He is a
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: He is a good pastor when everything is laid out
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: for him, when you have the.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Intricate dressing up that Sean Payton is done.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: And again, which is why like this isn't a knock
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: on bone Knicks, but baby's first NFL offense. That is,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that is what you want to do to help a
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: rookie out.
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: You want to.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Run baby's first NFL offense, and they continue to add
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: on as he grows. You're not gonna give a baby
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: like a fifteen hundred page novel. We're gonna do one this,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: two fish, red fist, blue fens, and then we're gonna
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: build up. But when bow Knicks has to use standard
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: drop backs, which is something that they want to try
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: and limit, bo Nicks has a negative point oh four
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: EPA for play and he has a forty one and
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: a half percent success rate.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: And I think where this.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Game can really be one is if the Bills defensive
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: line can affect bone Knicks, if you can get pressure,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: because something that bon Knicks will do a lot is
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: he has a little bit of happening. He'll kind of
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: be a little jittery, he'll be a little bound. He
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: is a rookie and you're in the playoffs for the
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: first time in your career. As good as the rookie
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: had been, you've never been in playoff football like this.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: So if they can affect Bon Nicks as they drop
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: back past her and kind of force him to win
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: this game for the Broncos. I think the Bills can
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: win them.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I like that. That actually ties in very well to
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: one of my I never have any order. I just
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: kind of go with the flow or whatever it is.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: That ties very well and do one of my points
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: here too, But I, you know, to kind of segue it.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I agree, you cannot let you can't let like the
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: full Sean Payton experience happen. If you are the Bills defense,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you cannot allow that insulation of Bonnicks. You have to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: put it on his shoulders and put it on bone shoulders.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: From the perspective of hey, here's third and seven, you
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: got to drop back. Hey it's seventeen to three. You
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: got to drop back, like you can allow all the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: window dressing and the design and the schemability kind of
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: impact things. And that's what ties into, you know, exactly
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: what you said, like into my point of which I
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: just titled, can the Broncos offense put the Bills defense
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: in hell? And I totally that because there's a multiple
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: pieces that go into it. Also, you know, I'll just
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: mention it as working backwards you know you mentioned play
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: action pieces. Broncos ninth highest play action rate on the year.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I thought it would potentially be higher given Sean Payton
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and Knicks, but ninth highest on the year, seventeenth overall
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: and EPA per play action pass. And then the Denver
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Broncos run game twenty fourth in rushing DVOA, twenty fifth
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: in EPA per attempt for running back runs, twenty fourth
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: in EPA per attempt for running back runs on early downs,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: eighteenth in success rate for running back runs, nineteenth in
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: success rate for running back runs on early downs. The
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Bills defense, despite what the numbers and advanced metrics say,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: have an issue with being displaced versus the run. They
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: will get knocked off the ball, they will get moved,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: especially in their spine, and especially with their second and
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: or third waves of interior defensive linemen. I've been shouting
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: this from the rooftops, honestly since you mentioned in the
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: first episode we did together on the year, since that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Cardinals game when the Cardinals were like, We're just going
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: to run, pin and pull and mash the hell out
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: of you for the entirety of a game. But again,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals are a Unicorn a bit with their offense
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: with Connor, with the tight ends, with all the gap
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: scheme stuff they do, how Kyler ties into it, all
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: that stuff, But really, since then, the way the Bills
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: have been stopping the run for the majority of this year,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: even when things are going well, most of the time
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: when they are stopping the run, it is with bodies
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: in the box to gap out, or with run blitzes,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: or with game script forcing opponents away from the run.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Most recent example, let's think about that Lions game. The
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Bills were committed right off rip, We're gonna put like
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: eight nine dudes in the box. You are not running
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: the ball. We're gonna run, blitz, We're gonna gap out,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: its bodies, its bodies. They build the lead lines eventually
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: come back, but them was stop the Lions run game.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: It helped the Bills build this big lead. They stopped
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: the run. Oh man, good performance against the run. Granted
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: they got shredded against the pass, but I'm using that
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: as an example of they stopped the run with bodies, numbers,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: run blitz is all that stuff that has been their
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: theme to shut down the run against. You know, the
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Rams ran all over them in the first quarter and
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: in the second quarter a bit as well. Then the
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Bills started to run, blitz started to bring bodies. You'll
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: get some run stunts. I say all that to say
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: their way to stop the run is by having to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: kind of be pot committed to stopping the run, which
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: means if you're allocating more resources stopping the run, you
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: have less resources allocated to being able to defend the pass.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Less numbers and coverage, less ability to disguise coverage, less coverages,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: you're able to get too free lee and or get
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: to in general. So again, the way they stop the
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: run bodies in the box to gap out run blitzes
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: or game script forcing opponents away from the run. You
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: get up seventeen to three or twenty to nothing, or
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you're up by double or triple digit scores. In the
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: third quarter. In the offense, as crap, we we can't
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: run the ball every two you know, out of five plays,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: we can only do one out of five or none
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: out of five. At this point we gotta go. I
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: know the Broncos offense isn't a buzzsaw, but I think
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: this match up the bow Nicks piece and the overall
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: like flow and design of the Broncos offense is so
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: important to the game flow. Can they do the Sean
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Payton stuff, move the pocket scheme and design guys open
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: the gadget plays, the easy buttons, the screens, the checkdowns,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: little stuff to Marvin Mims, little stuff to McLaughlin. You know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: how do you get estimately involved? Javonte Williams like, are
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you hitting a tight end screen to troutman and he's
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like galloping for fourteen or fifteen easy yards? Like all
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: these pieces. Can they do that and then also lean
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: into the pieces of the offense to try and attack
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: the Bills' vulnerabilities and one specific aspect. Again, I talked
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: about the run game a bit. The numbers aren't great.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: You and I were talking offline. The Broncos offensive line
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: is mean and nasty, like miners and McGlinchey and powers
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: and bowls, like they will punch you in the face.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And granted it may not be the prettiest thing or
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: the cleanest thing, but you got to strap in when
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you're defending the run for your entire front, your d line,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: your linebackers, anybody coming into the box like they're gonna
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: try and punch you in the face and you take
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: that physical aspect and a run game that isn't great.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Can this run game that isn't statistically or advanced metrically
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: good win against the defense that is advanced metrically and
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: statistically good but kind of has some holes which one
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: gives a little bit. And then tying into this last piece,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Denver is eighth in twenty one personnel usage rate at
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: seven point four percent. When they're in twenty one personnel,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: they're twenty fifth in EPA per pass, but they're sixth
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: in EPA per rush. I'm interested to see whether it's
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: twenty one or twelve. I do think it would be
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: more than twenty one. I'm interested to see if they
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: can mash the Bills, displace them, use their personnel to
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: create matchups in the run and in the past. By
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: making the Bills stay in nickel versus heavy or rock
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: with three linebackers. How that all ties and schematically we
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: know what that does, putting defenses into a bind by
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: making them have to play that game like that's I
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: think that's really the stepping stone and piece for the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: entirety of the offense, because if that's not working, then
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: it's like okay, bon Nicks. Are you throwing goal balls
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: to Courtland Sutton? Are you trying to stress the field
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: and hit dimes to Mims or Troy Franklin, Like, where
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: does the passing offense come from? If you have to
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: live in more of an instructure known I shouldn't say instructure,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: more of a known passing true dropback scenario like you
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: initially laid out, instead of all the scheme and design,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: run game work, personnel information and the whole Sean Payton experience,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: really kind of buttressing that passing game.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Like you said, this feels like schematically for the Broncos offense,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: they could give them a lot of It could give
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: the Bills a lot of problems that they've seen from
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: teams previously. You think, of god, a lot of teams
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: that have given the Bills defensive problems are teams that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: could get into twenty one or twelve personnel or teams
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: with huge offensive linemen and can mask them in the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: run game. So I think this might be a little
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: bit more of an estimate game, a little bit more
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: of a DeVante Williams game if they want to. I
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: think the biggest thing for the Broncos, especially against his defense,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: is they don't have to be explosive with their win.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: They just have to be effective. You can't go backwards,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: you can't go for two yards of carre.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Just the be the Chiefs run game. Just keep grinding
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: out four to six yards over and over and maybe
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: maybe actually I will just say maybe hit a ten
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: or twelve yarder, but the Chiefs don't really do that.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Just keep hitting four to six yards over and over again.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Look, this is a four to eight yard game.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: You don't need the explosives because if you can just
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: get the Bills to commit and like you said with
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: where how the Bills play the run.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: They are a very fast flowing defense.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: They want to try and get into these gaps quick
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: because they don't have the they.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Don't have the size to hold gaps. They are a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: gap penetration defense.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: They are attacking, you know, they want to try and
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: get there as fast as possible and then fit after
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: that where that post. The problem against Sean Payton offenses
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: is if you want to flow fast, they're just gonna
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: throw right behind with play action. So it really comes
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: down to which side of the ball kind of blinks
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: first and which side of the ball makes the adjustment
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: to go. We're getting run over in the run game.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: We gotta addlign that or we can't run the ball.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: We gotta take the fullback off the field and try
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: and get into more passing situations. I think there's gonna
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: be a really interesting game for both sides. And like
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: you said, this feels like it's a very funny game
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: because I think Sean Payton does a lot to piss
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: defensive coordinators off. Oh yeah, I can see that with
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: just all the eye candy, all the motion, the Marvin
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Mims stuff has been awesome after just for the first
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: half of the season not knowing what to do with
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now he's on like all this like orbit return
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: stuff and all these different things, vertical behind the line,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: around the line, You're like, he's like, where's Waldo? But
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: everything is explosive and bursty.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now they're like, oh, we'll just throw him
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: screens and go balls and it's like, oh, why didn't
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: you do this?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Where did that come from?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: But I think this is gonna have to be a
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: game for the Bill's second level. If they can maintain
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: discipline there, I think they can control this game, because again,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: you can't you want to get pressure on bone bone.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Nicks under pressure has a point negative point three to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: nine EPA for play, he has a thirteen point eight
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: percent sack rate under pressure and the twenty eight point
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: three percent success rate.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: He's not great against pressure right now.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: He is a rookie. But that is how you want
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: to affect him. You want to try and get the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: when things are blazing in the Middleville playoff game that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: he has never been in.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: You want to affect a rookie quarter.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I like that a lot. That's very well said, and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I I one particular point I wanted to hone in
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: on before we move to your next topic, is you
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: know you you talk about like the upfield, one gap
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: penetrating nature of the Bills defense, and that's legitimately who
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: they are, Like they're gonna they're comfortable knowing that they're
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: gonna get God, but they're also gonna get you, like
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the turnovers, the negative plays, the havoc plays, the toxic
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: differential type plays, Like that's what they are trying to
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: hang their head on, Like, Okay, you drove the ball
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: all the way down the field on us, We're gonna
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: get a stop on fourth and one, with a tackle
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: for loss or like a stuff or we're gonna turn
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: you over and you're gonna get empty points even though
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you had the ball for you know, four minutes and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: you moved it fifty yards. We're gonna find a way.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Like there are so many advanced stats like are so bad,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: like their plays per drive, time of possession for drive,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: like first downs and new series earned, all of these
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: the Bills are like bottom of the league, and then
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: their first and like turnovers per drive and like these
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: all this havoc stuff, like they they they operate at
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: both ends of the extreme. Like again, they're either gonna
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: get got or they're gonna get you. But I so
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: much of what I've talked about this year has been
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: teams taking advantage of their upfield nature, their one gap
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: penetrating nature with the run, like the Ravens doing it
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: with Crunch with that burst play to Derrick Henry for
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: a house call. The Pats did it with Trap, The
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Dolphins did it with Crunch. The Lions tried to do
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: it a little bit the like even again the Cardinals,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Like you're getting up field, psyche, we're just washing it
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: down and pinning poll And now there's nobody on the outside,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: and here we go and we've got big on small
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: and we're crushing you out there. But I like the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: idea of the Broncos getting after them by having like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: the Bills get upfield and then throwing it where they're
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: not any more, or operating with that like tunnel screens
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: or little stuff right behind the line where oh you
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: beat us, psych here comes a little dump off or
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: design check down like and then in the actual screen
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: game like using the pass to take advantage of that
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: up the field nature. We saw the Ravens. I mean,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: the Ravens game plan against the Bills was absolutely perfect.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: But the Ravens did it with the pass and the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: run like they were just taking advantage of the bills
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: fast flowing nature upfield horizontally left right, it didn't matter,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: like they were getting in with the pass on the run.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: I look for the Broncos to do more of it
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: with the pass to your point, and okay, who's moving?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Did we fall for the misdirection of the eye candy?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Is Mims pure eye candy in this game? And yeah,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: is this a game where like, I don't know, the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Broncos tight ends combined for like eleven catches for like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: one hundred yards because they keep getting like delays and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: you know, screens and all these little things over the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: middle and just aspects where uh oh, we didn't think
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: to cover that guy because we bit on something else.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: And Peyton it feels like Peyton's been doing that for years,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: finding ways to I don't know, going all the way
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: back to the Saints, like Pierre Thomas is catching like
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: thirteen but passes and you're like pissed the hell off
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: because Peerre Thomas like had thirteen catches for one hundred
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: and thirty yards. I rode him to so many fantasy
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: wins by just taking him in like the eleventh round
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: every year because he would get like four carries, but
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: then like double digit catches like every every game. It
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: was nuts. And yeah, so I'm interested to see that.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: I think that ties in really well. Yeah to that piece.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Anything else on that and you want to move to
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: your third point.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: I think something else to watch out for for the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Broncos offense is the design bow Knicks run game.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, good call. I thought that was my close fourth.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Like his legs in general and especially by design, good call,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: good call.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, his legs in general as a passer. You know,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: I think, who we do this thing with bo Nicks
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: where he's not the best athlete in the in the sport,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: obviously not, but he is good enough to make.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: You acknowledge that.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like he does enough. He will pull a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: zone read, he will scramble for ten yards, he will
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: do he will do just enough to make sure like, oh,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: we have to account for him.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that Auburn bo Nix is still in there
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit, a little more QB Reid and be mobile. Yeah,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: he's still in there somewhere.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it might have been like eighteen years ago,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: but it's still in there a little bit. But with
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: this fast flowing, aggressive Bill's defense and not having a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: supercomputer quarterback like a Matthew Stafford against the Steam, I
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: would not be surprised if they leaned a little bit
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: more into Oh, bo, your first reading their run if
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: it's not their takeoff, because that's how.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: You're going to effect the sea.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: This game is a passing. I mean he can if
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: you want him to do the one to two to three,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: But if the pressure starts flying, if this is turning
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: into a rookie in a playoff, game on the road,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: just play to when he's good. If it's not there,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if he runs that.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look for Courtland Sutton, Like, if you don't think
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: he's there, run, Okay here, this play is going to Mims.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: It's not there. Run Yeah. The do the Mike Vick
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: in Virginia Tech offense. Hey, Mike, if your first guy
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: ain't open, run And granted Knicks is not Mike Vic,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: but yeah, do you just try to if all else fails,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: rely on the defense and just try not to give
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: the game away on offense. And can you sneak out
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly they kind of sneak out a win
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: like they did last year in Buffalo Grant a different quarterback,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: different team, different defense, like on how they were operating.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: But I mean, kind of that recipe and formula can happen.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: All you need is one. You just need that one
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: game where it can kind of pop that way. There's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: so many in every game, but there's so many, like
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like, really in this Broncos Bills game, there's
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: so many chain reaction things that flow into everything else.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: It's very much as like if this happens, this if
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: not this that, and it's all like significant. It's not like,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: well you could go either way, Like there's all these
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: significant dominoes that just topple and fall one after the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: other significantly in a positive or negative way for both teams,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: just off of like these real simple and straightforward elements
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: and then how it all plays inconsistently. And that's not
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: even taking into account like the endgame adjustment standpoint, which
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: I think kind of factors into this a little bit
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: as well, Like if the offense isn't working but the
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: game's close, like man, like we're not really getting anything. Yeah,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the designers aren't working. The run game is
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: chewing out a little bit, but our offense really hasn't clicked,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and you know, saying where the Broncos. But we're sitting
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: here and we're only down thirteen to seven or we're
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: down fourteen to six, so it's still manageable. What can
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: we do to just eke out some points or yards?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Hope the defense does something. Do you get that? I
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: just think this game can go into multitude of ways,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: and they're all fun in a multitude of ways, but
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: then also tying into like how we think it could
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: go based off scheme and structure and tendency identity.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, very excited for this one, not just as Bills
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: person just football in general. I like that, what do
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: you got for your third point?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: So I went back and forth a little bit on
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: this one, and I kind of have an idea of
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: what I'm going to say here with how both of
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: these teams play and both of their abilities to do
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: and how they want to win gramatic, both these teams
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: aren't very high variants when it comes to FT and
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: Fantasy's variants rankings. But my question is which team leans
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: into the chaos first? Which team decides? All right, let's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: light this candle, let's turn this into a weird Let's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: get weird with this weird And I think the biggest
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: thing for this is because of how fast blowing and
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: how aggressive both defenses are. Team is gonna lean a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: little bit more to the variance. I think it could
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: be the Bills because of how good Josh Allen is
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: a scrambler against man coverage, how far down the field
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: he throws the ball against man coverage, and how good
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: this Broncos secondary is. This feels like a game where
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: if anybody breaks the variants, it would be the Bills,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: But can you get it to break either, can you
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: get it to be variants in your favor, because I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: think with the Broncos, the Broncos can try and break
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: that variance with a little bit of the bow Knicks
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: chaos stuff. But you're relying on a rookie quarterback in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Buffalo in a playoff game, it's.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: Gonna be cold as shit.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Like it feels like a lot of variables there to
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: where I think the Broncos game plan for this is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: get like you said, just get enough, get points where
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: you can and when you can, and hope the defense
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: come out on the positive side of the barriers, especially
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: if this game turns into the Broncos going, oh, you
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: want to scramble, you want to play the chaos, Josh
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Allen game, go ahead, We'll play right with you. And
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: if we get into that, which side breaks first?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: I like that? And again that that tights I keep
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: saying it, but like that ties in really well with
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: my final point, especially from like the Bills offensive side
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: from the varying standpoint. So I titled it can the
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Broncos get home versus Josh Allen? And I'm gonna lead
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: it with this point and then tied in with yours,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: because I think they go hand in hand. Some stats. First,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: for for all the people the Broncos defense, they're first
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: in pressures, third in pressure rate, first in sacks first
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: and sack rate, second in blitz rate. Out of two
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty two qualifying defensive linemen, the Broncos have
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: four in the top thirty one for pressures. Zach Allen
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: is fifth, Jonathan Cooper is fifteenth, Nick Benito is twenty first,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers is tied for thirty first. They also
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: have four players in the top twenty for pass rush productivity.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Because you might sit there and be like, oh, well, volume,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: okay if you want efficiency. Four in the top twenty
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: for pass rust productivity. Nick Benito is tied for eighth,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Andrea Tillman is tied for twelveth. Jonathan Franklin Myers is
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: tied for sixteenth. Jonathan Cooper is tied for eighteenth. Meanwhile,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: the Bills offense eighth fewest pressures allowed, the fewest sacks
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: allowed with fourteen. Green Bay is second fewest at twenty two.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: The Bills have the lowest sack rate at two point
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: six percent. Fun fact, the Broncos have the second lowest
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: sack rate at four percent. Josh Allen is has the
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: lowest or is the lowest out of forty four qualifying
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: qbs in pressures converted to sacks at eight percent. I've
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: been talking about this for years. I think it's his
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: best superpower. Even when the offensive line has been shoddy,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: his ability and they're not shoddy anymore, but his ability
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: to not allow pressures be converted to sacks is his
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: best trait. It is his Alvin Alvin what contact balance
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: is to Alvin Kamara. Josh Allen not allowing pressures to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: be converted into sacks, that's his thing. For all the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: athleticism and the leaping and the arm talent. For me,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: this is his thing. And in a year where the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: offensive line is better and the scheme and structure have
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: married well with his style and his mentality now and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: how he's changed in that regard him. He's always been
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: one of the better qbs in the league at this
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Usually Mahomes is the best, but not this year. Yeah,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: Allen at eight percent, lowest out of the forty four
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: qualifying qbs. One can the Broncos pressure Josh Allen because
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: like we're talking offline, like we've talked a bit in
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: this episode, the Broncos can legitimately win individually and with
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: scheme in terms of games and blitzes they have. But
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: between Alan and Benito and Cooper and Jones and Roach
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: and Tillman and Ellis and a JFM and I hope
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not forget anybody else, which is ridiculous because like
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: you have to name so many names, like did I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: leave anyone else?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, they have five guys, they have six guys
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: at least five sects on this team.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Dude, It's ridiculous, like and and all what I think
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: is cool with all of it is it's not like, oh, well,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: they really leaned into the bendy athletic archetype or they
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: really leaned into the compressed, the pocket archetype. Like all
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: these guys have are different from a skill set standpoint,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: build standpoint, trade standpoint, and all of them combine to
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: have this mix of like to give the defensive line
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: this mix of juice, power and technique. But can they
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: pressure the QB against an offense that hasn't given opposing
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: pass rushers much And then even if they do pressure him,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: it's a whole nother battle trying to actually get him down.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: To the ground.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: You you have to get him on the ground or
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: you have to affect him. You have to hit him
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: like That's because something that stood out upset about Josh
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Allen under pressure.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: This season is not only does he not get sacked.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: He has a nine point nine peri sack right according
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Consumer Sports, which is second lowest in the NFL behind
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love, but his average depth of target when pressure
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: is thirteen point two are thirteen point seven, which is
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: first in the NFL.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Behind him is Anthony Richardson. His sack rate is thirteen
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: point six percent.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: So not only is Josh Allen avoiding sacks avoiding pressure,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: he's throwing the ball a mile downfield and it's working.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: That is kind of the you you want to play
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: the variance game, we can play the variant game.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: And so it's it's asking if.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: The Broncos want to do this, but also you have
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: to get him on the square. Yep, you have to
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: affect him. It's not just sending free runners, because you
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: can send free runners all you want, but if you're.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: Not affecting him, if you're not hitting him.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: It's going the man great call. And that's literally like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: where I was gonna lead with it, like, so can
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: you pressure him one? If you can, can you get
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: home and get him down? Two? But then three tying
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: into your third point in the variants, that's where it
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: comes in. I think that's where that variance battle lies,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Like does Alan get you or do you get him?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: Because if you don't, he's going for blood. Like he's
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: gonna make some throw or he's gonna make some run.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I'm even thinking, you know, I think their first game
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: of the year against Seattle, Geno scrambles. I think for
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: hold On, I have it in my notes. Uh yeah,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: I think of the first week against Seattle. Yeah, Gino
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: has a scramble up the middle for thirty four yards
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: for a touchdown against Denver because they blitz, Seattle picks
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: it up and Gino just scampers through the A gap
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: and coverage parts, the red Sea parts, and that you no,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: just Geno is a good athlete. You do that against Allen,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: you're dead and there's they they've had that. A bunch
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: with some scrambles is for a team that has done
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: well against scrambling quarterbacks and pen some guys in especially
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: with their injuries at lineback, and it's not having a
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: great unit there overall, no disrespect like them limiting QB
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: run games like that is I actually have been impressive,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: but there's you know, Gino and Herbert sometimes but then
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: like Gardner Minshew was getting them a little bit, and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: like Alan what he can do as a runner, but
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: then also as a thrower against pressure or against the blitz,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: like if you don't get there or how much are
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: you paying for it? And then I think that also
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: ties into the coverage pieces we let off with because
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: is anybody getting open? How long do you have to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: hold the ball?
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Like if you can play so you can play so
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: high variants for the Broncos defense, you can do all
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: the blitz stuff because you have one of the best
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: secondaries in the league and Patrick's atay in the second
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: You're not going to throw to that side. So it's
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: it's a very small thing because I don't think it's
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: going to be a major point, but do they play
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Patrick's the second on the right side, Josh Allen scrambling.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: That way, he can't do all the like you.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: Have to throw it against Pats fan, like, is this
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: going to be?
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Is that going to be the game within the game
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: or do they try and pick on Riley Moss a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: little bit?
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: You know what? What's the How are they going to adjust?
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: And who, like I said, who's going to be the
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: first person to break the barry? Which which way is
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: the pendulum going to swing? Because I don't think the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Broncos can win this game if the pendulum first swings
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: away from them and they get behind in this game,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: because if they have to play from behind, the Bills
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: can do all the power and all the gap scheme
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: stuff and you're playing their game. But if you can
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: just keep this game close enough and you get a
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: little bit of the Sean Payton trickery and some of this,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: I think Sean Payton is gonna pull out some of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: like the Saints Sean Payton, like the weird stuff offensive,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Like he's had that in the tuck for like years now. Yes,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: so I wonder if he's gonna pull some of that out.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: But I'm really I'm really intrigued on how this game,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: where the first breaking point in this game is going
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: to be, and how both teams respond to it.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: I like that I like that a lot. It's funny,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: you know, talking about Pat, Like I was thinking the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: same thing. I went to PFF and I looked up
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: his uh snaps by alignment three hundred and eighty eight
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: at left corner, four hundred and thirty nine at right.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, do they just like I was literally thinking
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: of that too as you said it, Like, do they
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: just lock him on the right and be like, we're
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: gonna shut off the right, because then again, if he's
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: if you scrambled to the right, we're sending the house
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: scrambled to the right. Is whoever is over there? Are
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: they gonna be able to beat Pat one on one?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, who is Pat covering? Is he staying
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: on that on one side? Is he traveling where?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, There's just so many fun pieces I think within
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: this match up, like you said, and you know you
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: mentioned one again there just now, and it was Somethingnic
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: spoke about earlier. But I just think it's so important
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: the whole game script piece, Like so much of what
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Denver wants to be offensively and what works against the
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Bills goes out the window if the game script is
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: not in your favor all of a sudden, like the
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: Bills run defense woes don't matter if the game script
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: is out the window. All the fun scheme and design
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: to get guys open for Sean Payton kind of goes
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: out the window. If the game script is in there,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: all the fun design stuff doesn't matter. If the Bills
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: are like, we're just gonna rush for and drop seven
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: every time. We're just gonna play coverage and you have
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: eyes on everything in front of us, and we're gonna
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: bleed the clock out. Have fun. Getting yards will stimy you.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: We're up by twenty in the third, doesn't matter. We
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the run. We can probably
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: lean on our run a little bit. Maybe you want
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: to snuff it out. Here comes a play action shot
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: for seventeen yards to Dawson Knox, and we're just gonna
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: keep bleeding it and bleeding it and bleeding it. And
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: then yeah, even just from like a Sean Payton standpoint,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I am interested to you know, his success with the Saints,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: but the offense they had, the quarterback that they had, Like,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how bon Nicks does in his
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: first game with Sean Payton. And then even just I
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: guess what not just for this game, but what the
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: go forward looks like? Four bow knicks? Like how much
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: ceiling is there for a guy that for me at least,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I thought he was very much like a high floor
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: guy and like everything he was was kind of tapped
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: out a little bit. But like, how much can Sean
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: Payton unlock? Like how much of New Orleans can he recreate? Granted,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Nix and Breeze are two to completely different types of quarterback,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: but he's still insulating him and then tapping into the
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: athleticism there's Oh yeah, I just really think there's so
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: many fun aspects in this game. And then you add
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: the variance pieces and the individual players. Yeah, there's a
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: lot for Bills versus Broncos. Anything else on this matchup
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: that you feel you wanted to touch on that we
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: didn't touch on anything anything he got.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: The individual matchup I'm probably the most excited to watch
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: in this game is actually uh against Jakewon mcmill Oh,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: good call, because against mayn coverage, Kali is their answer
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: that that is their answer to Maya coverage. They will
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: have him do all the fun stuff in the tween game.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: They will have him basically be their number one in
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: the slot. I think j Colen McMillan's really good, So
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: the battle between McMillan Khaliosa Keere. They're really good against
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: tight ends, but Dalton Kinkaid is gonna have to have
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: a big game. I think there have been points against
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: the Raiders. There were a lot of points where certain
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: guarded brought bours because it's like, look, you, you are
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: the one guy on this team that we cannot let
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: not let get the ball. So I wonder, like you said,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: with a certain point, if this game, if you feel
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: like if beans Joseph feels like he can't get what
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: he wants out of leaving him on the right side,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: does he travel and kind of you kind of do
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: the thing that like the Heat used to do with
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Lebron in the playoffs, which is whoever was scoring the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: most points, put Lebron on him there. It is that
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: stops him for like a quarter and then you get
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: back into it and then they rotate back off.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I like that they're so I'm really curious to see
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: what they do with Pat and just who yeah who
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: cause even too, there's like reps that I don't think
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: he gets enough credit for this, Like some of my
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: favorite reps of his this year, like him fitting the
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: run like in the box, but then like your typical
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: like you know, crack replace stuff as a corner on
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: the outside, but he comes forward with like urgency and
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: like bad intentions. And then there's like he hit Riley
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: Moss too, like they're fitting the run in like the
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: C gap or like the be sometimes like oh you know, hey,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: that's the un block guy on duo and they're like, Okay,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: we're gonna insert and make the tackle like two or
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: three yards pass the line, and yeah there. I'm just
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: so interested. I love Pat as just a player, and
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: I'm pumped at Denver's gotten better a little. My thought
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: for a while was like he's gonna get franchise, tag
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch and then we'll eventually leave and we'll
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: see where he goes. But if they're on the uptick
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit, I'm interested to see kind of what
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: his career trajectory looks like and just how things have
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: potentially turned for a Bronco team. I think for a
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: lot of people that over at a bit I very much.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: You know, they started out slow, then they beat Tampa
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: and then you know, for me, at least but I
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: remember some of your uh you know, social timeline around
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: this as well. It was like, Okay, they're putting some
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: thing together. This is a really good defense, like historically,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: like they're putting up some crazy good numbers. What happens
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: with Broncos Baltimore and then Baltimore just hangs forty on
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: them and you're like, oh, like there it goes. But
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: then even going back and watching that game, they were
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: like the touchdown, the pitch and catch like today's Zay
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Flowers right before the end of the first half, some
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Lamar doing Lamar's stuff, some big plays. But Denver's defense
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: is as crazy as it might sound, wasn't terrible in
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: that game. And then they just keep kind of plugging along.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: Should have beat case. But I think like overall, yeah,
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: over overachieving and I think exceeding a lot of expectations
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: for this year and coming to this game as the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: seventh seed against a strong seven seed Bill squad or
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: two seed Bill squad, I should say so, obviously very
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: excited for this matchup in and multitude a ways. Last
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: thing I want to talk about JP. I just started
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: to wind down here a little bit, wanted to pull
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: up this post from again our friends at bet us
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: talking about So this is an article from them we
• 1:26:07
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• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: going over the NFL MVP picks talking about betting odds
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: where they think you should place your money, mentioning Josh
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Allen and Lamar Jackson here in the lead in JP
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: for your money. Who is the NFL MVP this year?
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: I don't. I know, you wouldn't feel sway because you
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: know you're you're in Bill's territory. But you know, if
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: you're truly as Allen cool, if you think it's Lamar,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: speak your mind. If you think it's someone else, speak freely.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Who do you think the NFL MVP should be this year?
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: So I think it's Lamar, okay, But I would not
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: be surprised if they split it. If this is the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: first split that we've had, Wow since Farv and Bearn.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Because as much as you can say like, oh, this
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: guy has done the X, Y and Z, the other
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: quarterback has done the exact thing.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: That's what I've been like every time they keep pointing out,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: like Allen historical things. There's all these historical things for
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: like Lamar in the same breath but different. It really
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: is like truly wild, how crazy of a year each
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: of them had, like historically and statistically.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't think it's very I only people really
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: understand what Lamar did this year.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Dude, forty touchdowns and under five interceptions for the first
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: time ever, and then he threw for four thousand and
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: ran for nine hundred.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: But he was he was legitimately like maybe like one
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: of those fourth quarter games where he doesn't get taken
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: out legitimately away from a four thousand and one thousands,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: which is which is which is Madden stuff.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: I don't think you can do that.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: In mad And he's doing some of that while also
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: pulling off like pocket passes like the I'm thinking of
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: the m breaker to Zay Flowers against Houston, where like
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: the one where Henry Totoe drops and he layers it
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: like over him and then Zake and then of course
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Jake catches it and as he catches it, he turns
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: it into a spin to shake the same didn't get
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: down to like the three or the four, but like
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the anticipation, the ball placement in the touch, like all
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: from the pocket was insane from Lamar, Like that was Nute.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: What I've always said about this this year's Ravens team
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: is they're running sort of similar stuff to a Shanahan offense,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: but have the best quarterback any Shanahan offense would have
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: ever had.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: What what what Shanahan dreamed? What Kyle Shanahan dreamed that
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: like Trey Lance is going to become.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, Kyle Shanahan saw what Josh Allen did to the
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: Niners and hoped Trey Lance would become but ended up
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson and Todd.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Mulkin doing it.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: I I genuinely do think this could end in the
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: top and I would not be surprised if this really
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: If we come down to it, and you know, you say,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen has Josh Allen's bills has the better record,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: the bar beat Josh Allen had your head.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 4: They both have that.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: They both have amazing stats, they have both done incredible things.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: They might just split it. Like I hate to be
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: a Switzerland in this scenario, but I really do think
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: they could.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 4: They could tie.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: When they always announce MVP and like the awards like
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: the week leading into the Super Bowl, correct mm hm,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: I always wonder how much rightly or wrongly because it's
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: like a regular season award. But I always wonder how
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: much the playoffs like in fluid Well, no, because the voting.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: When does the voting happen after the regular season or I.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Think it's after the regular season, and I do want
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: to their one thing up two thousand and three was
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: the co MVP year with Peyton Manning and Steven Nann.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Which is correct.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Oh I do remember that, man, those that was like
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: the old like AFC Central yep. Yeah, and every year
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: it was like Titans Colts And I remember the one
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: year like McNair wasn't practicing at all because he was
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: so hurt, but then he would play in every like
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: games back to back and was like crushing it. But
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't practice again. Oh man, Yeah, those are some
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: good matchups. Yeah, and I I never even thought of
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: a tie so one. I never even thought of a
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: tie to depending on when the voting happens, I wonder
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: how much the playoffs impact it and just overall, yeah,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: like I think, I really I am. I also personally
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: don't care about MVP, Like the individual awards like mean
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: nothing to me. I do not care like whoever wins
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: it effect it does not at all, but it's it
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: is wild just how much of a case you can
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: make for either guy. And then even I feel bad
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: for the year.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: And we have done this weird thing to running backs
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: and I've seen so many arguments that anybody could do
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: this behind the Eagles offensive line.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: DeAndre Swift is not doing this.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: I'm like, we've seen what it looks like when Deogre
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Swift was behind this Eagles offensive line, and we've seen
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: what Suon Barkley has done behind this offensive line.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: Combined with the.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Fact that I don't think the Eagles passing game has
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: been that great this year. No, like I don't think
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts has been that great, and the jitimately to
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: win games in the fourth quarter, it is lean on
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Saquon and win the football game. So I feel bad
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: for Saquon that he gets caught in this caliber of season,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: but it just goes to show you how many historic
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: performances we've gotten at every spot this season. I mean,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: I think Kukakula had has like three point six yards
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: throughout run this season despite missing time. Miles Garrett is
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: still phenomenal. Like still if Sartain doesn't get he's the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Player of the Year. I would not be surprised if
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: they give it to Miles Garrett again, just because like, yeah, man,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: you're the best deep player in the league.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and the triple Crown.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: Jamar Chase triple Crown.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson had seventeen saves, Joe Burr almost went for
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: like five thousand pass but there's so many just his
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: work off performances. But these two guys being at from
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: the same class, being the same like not the same
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: levels of improbability in terms of how they turn out
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: as NFL quarterbacks. But it's fitting that it's these two
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: guys that it comes down to as kind of jockeying
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: for the position for MVP, when these are the two
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: guys that we have legitimately said week in and week
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: out they rival Mahomes like that, they are the two
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: mahomes equals.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: So I just think it's really cool.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: That's fair. No, I agree, and it's it's it's funny
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: like last year was similar conversation for Allen and Lamar,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: and this year like similar one, but both ratcheted their
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: game up. Yeah, I feel bad for whoever doesn't get it.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: I also feel bad for Saquon like just yeah, they
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: I feel similar to like, I don't know, just Saquon
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: and Ashton gent Man, just like running backs who just
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: aren't gonna get their due this year in the Heisman
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: and the MVP, because there are some other dudes who
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: just bawled out in like more Hi's mini position type
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: of m VP position, like narrative type of deal. Not
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: to say that Travis Hunter didn't deserve it or Alan
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: or Lamar don't, but this MVP has kind of become
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: a quarterback award and Heisman is not really a running
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: back award anymore. And then Travis Hunter's playing both sides
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: of the field, which is nuts. Yeah, it's just a
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: crazy historical year. The look all the Lamar numbers are
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: really I'm again, I'm not like, I just see him
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: flash across the screening different games and I'm just like
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: I see something for Allan, I'm like wow. And then
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I see something from the mar and I'm like wow.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: And then I see some for Allan, I'm like wow.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: And then I see someone of the MO I'm like, oh,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: Like it's just the dueling historic pieces of it. And
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: then if the stars align and it's Bill's Ravens in
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: the division round. Oh, like, how much more.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: Does that that we get? It would be perfect for
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: these two guys to go with the co MVP. If
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: you look at that two thousand and three year Manning
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: mc both went twelve and four, but Manning the Colts
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: to beat Titans twice and they finished equal in the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: MVP vot. You know. So, I think there's a lot
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: of there's there's not a lot of precedent for a
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: time in the NFL, but when it comes to two
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks having historic seasons and both teams are incredibly good,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: I think there's a little bit of precedent.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm very I'm very I'm just interested to see
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: what happens in which fan base wants to burn down
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: the other.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: Oh God, it's gonna be it's gonna be so tough.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: It's become so like so intense. I knew it was
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: bad when I was like I would post like something
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: from Lamar during like the off season, and I just
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: had so many people coming in and being like Alan
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: could do that, or like Lamar sucks, and I was like, oh, man,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: like they're are like he doesn't deserve that MVP. And
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: it was like I would tweeting something in like June
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, like it's just and then
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Ravens fans the same, like finding ways to you know,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: knock Alan. Yeah, I just the intensity. I'm not, you know,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: necessarily the joker, where like some men want to see
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: the world burn, but I do kind of want to
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: see the chaos that results from it. And again also
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: how that ties into what actually happens in the playoffs.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: And then on top of all of it, Mahomes is
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  Speaker 2: this football game, this specific one, because it just feels
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  Speaker 2: like two teams that their their strengths aligned with each
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: other very well, and so again it is which team
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  Speaker 2: blinks first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm also too, like I just know one
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  Speaker 1: thing like that. I think too, like within the blinking aspect.
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  Speaker 1: I know that that yin and yang of Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: is still in there. And if something goes sideways early,
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  Speaker 1: how much does he want to make up for it?
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  Speaker 1: And so like, I don't know, say the Broncos scores,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a touchdown or it just scored period. Let's
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  Speaker 1: say they get three points on the opening drives and
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  Speaker 1: then the Bills get the ball. Second Alan makes a
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  Speaker 1: stupid throw and it's an interception, and then the Broncos
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  Speaker 1: score a touchdown and it's ten to nothing. How much
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: does he want to get it all back? And do
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: we get another mistake? And like does that ever come?
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  Speaker 1: Because we haven't seen that Josh Allen this year? No jinks,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: you know, fingers cross, all that kind of stuff, But
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I know it's still in there. Or has he completely
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: defeated the beast and he's locked him away and he's
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  Speaker 1: gone and the new quarterback from the neck up take
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  Speaker 1: what the defense gives you marry the mutint alien unicorn
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  Speaker 1: with the sharp mind and mentality? Like is that is
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: that who he is now and here to stay for forever?
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: Or is that you know is Nate Tyce coined? Like
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: is that Professor chaos still in there.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: It feels like we're talking about now lock him up
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: Karama a little bit nice. That's exactly what we're going with.
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  Speaker 2: Are we Are we getting Karama Josh Allen or he's
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: just got the nine tails going and just.
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  Speaker 4: Obliterates everything, including his own team.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Or do we get the do we get the Sage Naruto,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: we get the six past Sage Naruto where it's a
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: little more rained in. I'm not sure, and I wonder how,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Like I said, how game script affects this game specifically
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: for both teams. But I'm so excited to watch how
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: both teams attack each other. I won't be surprised if
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  Speaker 2: it starts out a little slow, with both teams kind
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: of feeling each other out and seeing what they'll do,
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, it's the first round of a fight.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: We're gonna see what you do for the first couple
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: of drives, and then whoever gets the first big play,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: how's it gonna how's it going to effect the rest.
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  Speaker 4: Of the game.
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  Speaker 1: I I'm interested in that start because I have two
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: like trains with all of that, Like do we see
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: the testing the cage like a little bit, or is
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: it like each team starts out with like a.
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  Speaker 2: Play action moonshot, Like it would be very Sean Payton
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: to just go straight twenty like twenty one personnel. You
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  Speaker 2: think we're gonna run it. Nope, We're gonna let both
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  Speaker 2: throw this sixty yard and see what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm thinking, Like we're just you know,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: fifty fifty ball to Sutton fifty yards downfield, or we're
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: putting mims in and we're sending them on a rail
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: and we're chucking it. We're gonna see what happens like
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  Speaker 1: and then do the Bills try Like, hey, Kean Coleman,
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  Speaker 1: back to this comment or question I should say from Brandon.
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  Speaker 1: in our four to three defense against Denver's offense? Do
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  Speaker 1: you think Dorian has developed enough to be trusted in
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  Speaker 1: Dorian Milano conversation has been somewhat contentious, kind of like
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  Speaker 1: I trust Dorian a lot more than I did this year.
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  Speaker 1: But I did not have confidence in Dorian last year
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  Speaker 1: at this time from a processing standpoint, from a play
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  Speaker 1: I do think he's developed enough to be trusted in
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  Speaker 1: has developed enough to be trusted in a playoff atmosphere
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  Speaker 1: at a high volume? High volume is where I draw
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  Speaker 1: the line. I don't trust him enough to be a
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  Speaker 1: full on ninety ninety percent of the snaps like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't trust him for that. I trust him to be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the third linebacker on the field if they
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  Speaker 1: want to go two, four to three or if they
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  Speaker 1: want to go base. I trust him to see these
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  Speaker 1: him really to attack and play the run more than anything.
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  Speaker 1: I think they did a good job this year of
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: playing to his strengths and allowing him to And again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean this. I don't mean this like he
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  Speaker 1: can't process or he's not smart. It's just that, like
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  Speaker 1: I've said a million times on the show and on
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  Speaker 1: social he comes from a defense. They played a very
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  Speaker 1: a not very sophisticated spot drop zone defense, so adjusting
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  Speaker 1: in how they play it. So he's still he's made
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  Speaker 1: large strides this year versus last year. I don't trust
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  Speaker 1: him in a high volume, but I do trust him
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  Speaker 1: I trust him to see meaningful snaps in this game,
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• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: have Milano than Dornian right now, especially with how Mlonal's
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  Speaker 1: been kind of improving a little bit physically each week
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: since he came back from the injury in December. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I do think Dornian has has made significant strides in
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: his game versus last year. But I still do have
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  Speaker 1: some questions about him getting misled in coverage, his coverage
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: in general. But you know, just taking de bait, eye candy, misdirection,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: being put into bad position, or putting himself out of position.
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  Speaker 1: I should, I should say in a variety of ways.
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  Speaker 1: But again, he's had a good year. I'm excited to
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  Speaker 1: kind of see what he is going forward, what that
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  Speaker 1: looks like long term, how that intertwines with mlonal's trajectory.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll kind of see what happens with that good question.
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  Speaker 1: I like that Alex saying the second seed team used
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  Speaker 1: saying the Bills have consistently been the two seed since
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  Speaker 1: they introduced the seventh seed laugh out lot. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, since it was like, oh, the top
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  Speaker 1: two seeds don't get to buy any more, of the
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  Speaker 1: main source of getting everybody. Or catch me in the
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  Speaker 1: Cover One discord channel, especially in the film channel for
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  Speaker 1: all of our insiders, or you could dm me there
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  Speaker 1: as well. Playoff week it's here. Hopefully the bills are
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  Speaker 1: not one and done. Hopefully we are having another playoff
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  Speaker 1: discussion next week as the Bills survive in advance past
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  Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Major thanks to Jpacosta for helping me
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  Speaker 1: to have this in depth discussion on what and who
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  Speaker 1: to watch for in this game in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: we'll decide this Broncos versus Bills Wildcard playoff matchup. Give
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  Speaker 1: JP a follow on the socials that he mentioned on
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  Speaker 1: Twitter at Blue Sky again. JP is legitimately one of
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  Speaker 1: the best follows on Twitter at Acosta thirty two underscore
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  Speaker 1: JP and then blue Sky. I believe it is the
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  Speaker 1: same thing, just with no underscore, so it'll cost a
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  Speaker 1: thirty two JP again. He's well worth the time. Hope
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  Speaker 1: you folks enjoyed his work. Hope you folks enjoyed this episode.
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  Speaker 1: I help you and your family and friends and loved
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  Speaker 1: ones are all doing well and staying safe. Be kind
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  Speaker 1: of one another, take care of one another. If you're
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  Speaker 1: going to the game this weekend, have a great time,
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  Speaker 1: be safe, cheer loudly. Make it tough for the Broncos. Godspeed,
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  Speaker 1: I will see you when I see you. Be kind
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  Speaker 1: of one another. I'm trying to think of the outros
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  Speaker 1: I throw myself on purpose. Yep, godspeed, I'll see you
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  Speaker 1: when I see you, see you in the film room,
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  Speaker 1: or see you when this guy's coverage next week, and
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  Speaker 1: until then, godspeed and as always go bills.