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Being Charitable with Charity · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome to the famous podcast, the almost Samest podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Episode that is gonna break down the first episode of
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  Speaker 2: Charity season. Ben, let's start it off, let's dig into it.
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  Speaker 2: What was your takeaway, first impression, and then I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you mine.
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  Speaker 3: My takeaway was this, it feels like Charity is gonna
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  Speaker 3: let us know how she feels what she's feeling through
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  Speaker 3: the whole season, which is so exciting because I think
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna have a communicative, passionate, and emotional experience because
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  Speaker 3: the lead is allowing us in like she doesn't. My
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  Speaker 3: first impression is she doesn't have the typical lead nerves.
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  Speaker 3: I think she has nerves, but she doesn't have the
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  Speaker 3: lead like hesitation to open up on night one like
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  Speaker 3: some leads do, like myself. And I think that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: make a great season because that's only going to get
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  Speaker 3: more comfortable for her, and she's only going to allow
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  Speaker 3: us in more and I think we're gonna like feel
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  Speaker 3: this season.
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  Speaker 2: I concur My takeaway is I actually was more in
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  Speaker 2: tune with this episode than I am with most first episodes,
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  Speaker 2: maybe because it wasn't as formulaic because they had the
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  Speaker 2: twist of the brother being there, which was actually really fun. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed at the fact that the brother
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  Speaker 2: revealed himself so early. I thought he could stick around
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  Speaker 2: for a few weeks in different costumes, or just be
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  Speaker 2: the bartender at the mansion all the time and just
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  Speaker 2: keep feeding her info. We'll talk about him a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more in depth later. But the other thing that
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  Speaker 2: I did realize as far as Charity's personality is she's
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  Speaker 2: undeniably likable. I kind of forgot how much I liked
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  Speaker 2: her after Zach's season because there was so much drama
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  Speaker 2: that happened after her departure. And I also sense like
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  Speaker 2: no ego from her, which I think is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit different than a lot of leads. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of leads are just kind of like they
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  Speaker 2: may feel like a little sense of entitlement, like you're
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  Speaker 2: all here for me, but you and I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like she's just super humble.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, and watching even the re like
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  Speaker 3: the previews for the rest of the season, I think
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  Speaker 3: you're getting that it all. I mean, I think you're
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  Speaker 3: saying almost exactly what I was saying too, where her
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  Speaker 3: humility is allowing us to relate in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 3: And since we're relating, we're feeling it, and since we're
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  Speaker 3: feeling it, we're involved in it. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: a big deal for a lead. Maybe something we've never
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  Speaker 3: said or thought of, But a lead, as we've said
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  Speaker 3: many times before, isn't a good lead because necessarily they're
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  Speaker 3: likable because the show can make them likable. It's how
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  Speaker 3: they respond to difficult situations, and how they respond to
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  Speaker 3: really exciting situations, like how they let us in. And
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  Speaker 3: I think Charity will have all of it. She's like
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  Speaker 3: because she's humble, and because of that, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: be able to be involved in her season, which is.
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  Speaker 4: All we really want.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Jesse starts the episode out by saying her love story
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  Speaker 3: is going to be one.
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  Speaker 2: For the ages, but he doesn't know at that point,
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  Speaker 2: does he? Does he say it in the voiceover or
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  Speaker 2: the beginning.
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  Speaker 3: I have a feeling that segment would like when he's
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  Speaker 3: standing at the mansion that's taped afterwards.
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  Speaker 2: No, because the awning's still up, which I liked the awning.
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  Speaker 2: They had the awning up for Rain and I was
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  Speaker 2: like I like this, I give me like a warm vibe.
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  Speaker 4: It's Romanticum, that's a good point. Then he doesn't know it.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't know it.
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  Speaker 3: But I will say I don't typically believe, no matter
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  Speaker 3: who the host is, that opening line like this is
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  Speaker 3: the most dramatic season ever, this is going to be
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  Speaker 3: the one for the ages whatever. I don't typically believe
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  Speaker 3: it because I know they're telling us that to get
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  Speaker 3: us involved. But I think charity story what we find
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  Speaker 3: out more with her being the lead and we heard
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  Speaker 3: a little bit about on Zach season is you know
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  Speaker 3: she's went through pain and pain that most of us
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  Speaker 3: when we enter into you know, the adult dating pool,
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  Speaker 3: have felt before. Like it's not uncommon if you are
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  Speaker 3: somebody who is dating or who has dated, to have
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  Speaker 3: a story of being hurt, of maybe being cheated on,
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  Speaker 3: of having some sort of pain involved in how the
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  Speaker 3: other person treated you. And so I hear Charity's story
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  Speaker 3: and I say, I get it. I understand why she's
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  Speaker 3: so like so desiring a good partner, and I hope
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  Speaker 3: she finds it. I'm rooting for Charity, which Ashley. To
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  Speaker 3: be honest with you, I don't start every first episode
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  Speaker 3: of every season rooting for the lead. I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to see them paint her. I don't want to see
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  Speaker 3: them fall down. I don't want to see this ruin
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  Speaker 3: their life.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I'm apathetic. I sometimes just don't care. And it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see the cast. I want to see
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  Speaker 3: if they're exciting. I want to see what their stories
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  Speaker 3: are season. I feel like I'm on Charity's team and
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  Speaker 3: the cast better catch up.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's great. I love that you feel that.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the cast. I like the way that
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  Speaker 2: these entrances. There was no really over the top silly entrances.
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  Speaker 2: They were all kind of cute, Like when I'm thinking
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  Speaker 2: about it, I liked the fact that the one guy
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  Speaker 2: revealed to tequila shots. He was like, let's see if
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  Speaker 2: you're up to date with your shots. That was cute.
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  Speaker 2: And then the check that said check for Charity giving
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  Speaker 2: my heart.
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  Speaker 4: That's good.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think can you think of any others?
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  Speaker 4: I can think it's really awkward ones.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but like again, there were no like big show entrance, no.
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  Speaker 4: Big show, no big show. Yeah. It was they were
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  Speaker 4: they were genuine, they were thoughtful. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The entrances never stand out to me as much in
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  Speaker 3: any season, and I kind of just tune them out
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  Speaker 3: and I just see who the person is, and like,
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  Speaker 3: I like to honestly judge them right away.
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  Speaker 2: Well we know that you're gonna judging the cast right away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like to see their first like reaction
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  Speaker 3: and be like, okay, I think, and in my phone
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  Speaker 3: where I keep the notes for the season, I say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this is this guy. I think he's gonna be really awkward, Like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: here's this guy. His ego is massive. Oh, here's this guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's the one liner charmer who will end up hurting charity.
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  Speaker 3: Like I have all those things written down just to
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  Speaker 3: see if I'm right. Later on, I will say I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why one of the one two of them
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  Speaker 3: sit out to me.
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  Speaker 4: One the guy that did the backflip.
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  Speaker 3: Always impressive, Oh my gosh, always impressive, right, always impressive.
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  Speaker 3: Never been able to jump six inches off the ground,
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  Speaker 3: So that's a big deal to me. The second is
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  Speaker 3: the professional diver. I just I love scuba diving, and
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  Speaker 3: so I was really intrigued by that, and I think,
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  Speaker 3: what you do he's a professional diver, Like he's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what did he do as is like his
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  Speaker 2: entrance thing, he had.
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  Speaker 3: A helmet, like he wore a helmet in he had
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  Speaker 3: it with it was like a cool kind of I
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  Speaker 3: would say old school diving, but that might be what
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  Speaker 3: they still use to do deep diving. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but he had a helmet so that and I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I would be intimidated by that guy. You're like,
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  Speaker 3: if if somebody walked in and they're like, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm a professional diver, like I dive for a living.
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  Speaker 3: I dive hundreds feet below the ocean and fix things
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it is, I'd be like you are that
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  Speaker 3: you aren't scared to bungee jump, and if and I'm
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  Speaker 3: scared to bunge like you have no fear. I have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of fears. You're gonna show me up. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the one crying going on a date so scared,
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna be like, this is gonna be awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Those people intimidate.
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  Speaker 2: Me when I think about the guy's entrances besides the
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  Speaker 2: two that I just mentioned. Yeah, Like I gotta talk
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  Speaker 2: about the flip again because the flip, Like I think
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  Speaker 2: about the physics and like, how strong you have to
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  Speaker 2: be to limp yourself up like that.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 2: On cement, it does not even anything relatively bouncing, and
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  Speaker 2: like in a suit, right, he was wearing a suit.
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  Speaker 3: Something dress. Up close, he was like, dressed up enough.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you got to think about the physics of
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  Speaker 3: a flip. And I'm sure people listening are like, it's
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  Speaker 3: not that hard to do it on trampline, Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 3: but you're not doing it on the ground. At some point,
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  Speaker 3: your head is passing like your neck is passing concrete
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  Speaker 3: and you're going completely exactly over again back on your feet. Ashley,
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  Speaker 3: I just I just did plots this morning. I do
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  Speaker 3: like a heated weightlifting class every morning, okay. And there's
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  Speaker 3: a couple moves in there. We have to stand on
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  Speaker 3: one leg, you have to stand on one leg and
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  Speaker 3: like lift an arm up and all this.
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  Speaker 2: Hard enough, right, yeah, I can do it, I know,
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  Speaker 2: always swaying during that move. Charity was just as impressed.
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  Speaker 2: She basically just wants to watch this guy flip And
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure all the guys in the house are going
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  Speaker 2: to be really tired of watching it. But I probably
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  Speaker 2: could be entertaining each time.
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  Speaker 4: Keep them around for the flipping.
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  Speaker 3: Uh so those are the big and says Ashley, we're
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  Speaker 3: far enough into the episode now that we got I
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  Speaker 3: got to ask you first time we've really seen it
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  Speaker 3: in a while. It is the twentiet season of The Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: Very exciting for the show to be around twenty seasons.
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  Speaker 3: What did you think about the cameos from the past bachelorettes.
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  Speaker 2: I think they chose a couple of good ones to
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  Speaker 2: do it. I liked it. They were all different. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't just like, hey, it's me checking in. They all
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  Speaker 2: had kind of different advice okay, and they were all
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  Speaker 2: at different stages of life now because of the show,
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  Speaker 2: so I enjoyed that. I also enjoyed the format where
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  Speaker 2: they put the package, you know, the intro profile package,
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  Speaker 2: right before the guy like he like came out of
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  Speaker 2: the limo. Then we saw the package and then we
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  Speaker 2: saw him meet Charity. It was nice with them seeing
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  Speaker 2: all of them in a row up front and then
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  Speaker 2: seeing them come out in the limo later. Do you agree, Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I would. I agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe it's been so long since they've changed
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  Speaker 2: that up. But I think it really helped kind of
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  Speaker 2: tell us who to narrow and on. Yeah, I agree,
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  Speaker 2: all right, Well, any.
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  Speaker 4: Guys the awkward ones? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sorry, sorry, I was going to say, let's
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  Speaker 2: go into the ones that she was really into. Go ahead, No,
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  Speaker 2: let's do awkward ones.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's just me, but Spencer was nervous and terrified.
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  Speaker 2: If just Youk'm pretty sure everybody knows that. And do
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  Speaker 2: you like the way that they dropped the music out?
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  Speaker 2: Normally they go straight for the They just were like,
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  Speaker 2: you want to see how awkward this is?
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  Speaker 3: So it was awkward, right, Because sometimes I don't have
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  Speaker 3: a great read on awkwardness because I'm fairly awkward myself.
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  Speaker 4: Ie, I could not.
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  Speaker 2: You're just I don't think you've ever been awkward in
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  Speaker 2: your life.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, I guarantee it.
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  Speaker 3: But he felt terrified, but his him like he never
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  Speaker 3: felt I don't want to say normal. It just always
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  Speaker 3: felt like there was like some oddity man.
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  Speaker 2: He's a weird dude, but he's entertaining and he's not
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  Speaker 2: like villainously weird. He's just nice awkward, fun for us
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  Speaker 2: to watch, but probably horrible for Charity to have to
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  Speaker 2: interact with.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's very sweet. Uh, he is a father,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he announced that to Charity.
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  Speaker 4: But his there there was.
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  Speaker 3: Just something about his communication style that was hard for
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  Speaker 3: me to tune into. Like it was hard for me
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  Speaker 3: to watch it because I get you know, I do.
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  Speaker 3: I get very awkward when I watch awkward things on television.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't watch the kissing because the kissing feels
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  Speaker 3: weird to me. But his every time he talked, it
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  Speaker 3: was like I couldn't turn away because it was so weird.
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  Speaker 4: Like dot we and I don't want to. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want him to feel like he's a weirdo.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying it felt awkward, like it felt uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you everybody is like, yes, bad, we
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  Speaker 2: know it was awkward.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: And and so my question to you is, do you
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  Speaker 3: think that was because he was so terrified and so
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  Speaker 3: nervous and that he'll uh loosen up and and and
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  Speaker 3: kind of like shine bright as the season goes on,
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  Speaker 3: or do you think this is something that will stick?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, no, he's just an awkward dude.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So but he's around and so he's around for right,
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  Speaker 3: He's around for right now. He's in some of the
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  Speaker 3: previews that feel like later on the season.
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  Speaker 2: Really, I didn't pick him up on the previews. I
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  Speaker 2: picked up on Joey a lot in those previews. I
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  Speaker 2: picked up on Brandon. I picked up on Aaron Aaron B.
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  Speaker 2: Aaron B. I'm looking at the cast list right now, sorry, guys, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: Aaron B. And then you know who really struck a
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  Speaker 2: chord with me that we we see in scenes for
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  Speaker 2: the season, but did not make much of an impression
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  Speaker 2: on Night one, Doton One from Nigeria.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the cool guy to all real sweet. Yes, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Loved him, and I was disappointed that she didn't get
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him, But I think it was probably
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  Speaker 2: one of these situations where she's like, your first impression
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  Speaker 2: was so great, Like I don't need to talk to
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  Speaker 2: you to give you a rose.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's good. Well.
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  Speaker 3: The other one I thought was going to be more
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  Speaker 3: awkward was the professional wrestler.
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't. He was.
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  Speaker 3: This is pretty cool, pretty cool, pretty chill, pretty laid back.
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  Speaker 3: That was surprising to me. Here's my hot take, and
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  Speaker 3: it could have been influenced and we'll get into the
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  Speaker 3: preview for the rest of the season later on could
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  Speaker 3: have been influenced by that. I have a hot take
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  Speaker 3: that Joey was actually hard for me to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it's hard for you to watch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I felt some awkwardness there. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like again, I think it might be influenced
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  Speaker 3: by the preview for the rest season.
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  Speaker 4: I'll explain that because.
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  Speaker 2: His tongue is Yes.
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  Speaker 4: He straight up licked her face.
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  Speaker 2: I know he licked her tongue. Okay, so let's slow
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  Speaker 2: down here her mouth Okay, So now I can't look
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  Speaker 2: at Joey the same I liked him. All I was
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  Speaker 2: worried about was that he was insecure, that he was
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  Speaker 2: shortened than all the guys. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I know how that is, because Jared felt so secure
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  Speaker 2: with you guys, because your season was so tall, like
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  Speaker 2: your season was six three and your six four, uh,
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  Speaker 2: ben Z was six y four, like everybody was towering
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  Speaker 2: over six foot Jared, like Jared is tall to regular society,
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  Speaker 2: but always felt insecure. And I'm like, ah, Joey's feeling it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So in the previews, so to kind of recap
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  Speaker 3: right now, Joey is Joey is the short guy. He
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  Speaker 3: isn'tsecure about being short. He mentions that in the preview
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of this season, there is a scene
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  Speaker 3: It's Quick that Joey in a makeout scene with Charity
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  Speaker 3: is face to face and he straight up has his
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  Speaker 3: tongue out and it looks like he lolly popped her,
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  Speaker 3: like he licked from below lower lip to upper lip
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  Speaker 3: back then into her mouth, like the tongue is the
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  Speaker 3: tongue is out and it's a thick tongue, like it's
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  Speaker 3: a it's a beefy tongue. And so Ashley, question for
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  Speaker 3: you and the listeners, now that we got to this
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  Speaker 3: point in time, is that hot?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: Are you sure? Yes? Hannah in for this please our producer?
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  Speaker 2: Hannah okay, because I am just like not really like
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  Speaker 2: a French kiss lover. Like I get that there's a
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  Speaker 2: time and place for sure, but in a moment like
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  Speaker 2: that and one in public, I think it's really like
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  Speaker 2: to me, it's like strictly a bedroom thing because like
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  Speaker 2: if I'm just making out, then I'm like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: like I'll of the lip. I understand that, like when
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  Speaker 2: it's getting a little bit of steamier, you can use
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  Speaker 2: a little tongue, not just let things go like that
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  Speaker 2: because it was a straight up lick. It wasn't like
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't even like in a there was a lip action.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, Hannah.
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  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, there's a time and place and
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  Speaker 5: that was not in place.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So Hannah, it is not.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to make a comment on this, and
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  Speaker 3: I knew that I was gonna get to two women
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  Speaker 3: on the podcast with me, and I was gonna like,
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  Speaker 3: is this a hot thing to like?
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  Speaker 4: Is in?
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  Speaker 3: Honey, you're still in the dating pool? So are you
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  Speaker 3: going back or any of your friends that you know
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  Speaker 3: going back and being like, Okay, last night I met
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  Speaker 3: this guy and he did this thing where he licked
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  Speaker 3: my both my lips, Like is that a Is that hot?
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  Speaker 4: Hannah? Now? In this in this dating world?
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Like not if you're just making out at a bar
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: or like maybe room. But I feel like if any
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: of my friends or I was at a bar or
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: in a public setting and someone did that to me,
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: I'd be really creeped out.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I'd like that I felt creeped out.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: No, I just want to give him benefit of the
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: doubt here. Of course they're going to put that moment
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: in because it's going to get us talking. I remember
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: my teas the scenes from chrys Soles' season. There was
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: one really sloppy looking kiss on my behalf and I
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: was petrified to see it air like actually, and I
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: spent days just being like, oh my god, is that
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: what I look like? Is that is that how I kiss?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: It's bad? You know, like it's not like. Let's just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: say that he had one moment and it may not
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: be his constant. Now, if this is, I think we're
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: gonna see him kis Charity a number of times? Sure,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: If this is how he kisses there every time, then
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: then we're allowed to talk.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: It's gonna get hard. It's gonna get hard to watch.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: We've kind of gone through some of the standout performances
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: when it comes to limo entrances. We do have a
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: limo entrance uh with Charity's brother Niah Mayah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: He steps out. It's a great tease. My heart was racing.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't know who it was gonna be. I don't
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: know anybody in Charity.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Didn't they give us this tease. Didn't we know her
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: brother's making cameo. I'm forgetting where we found this out
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: wasn't it on like after the final rose or something
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't remember that got.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: The preview that her brother was already in.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Well, either way is a flash. Either way, it worked,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Neamiah shows up. They have a great relationship. You can
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: tell that they both care about each other a lot,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: they both trust each other a lot. You can tell
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: also that he's kind of like, I don't want to say,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the cool brother. But she didn't feel uncomfortable with him
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: being there. I mean, she didn't know he was there
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: the whole time, but I think if they would have
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: told her, hey, your brother's going to stick around for
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: this evening, she'd been like, that's perfect, Like I trust him,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I like him. He's not going to like freak out
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: on a dude for saying that he kissed me and
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: licked my face like he's he might not like it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's like sitting out there and me
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: like this is the best thing I've ever heard, and
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: it doesn't make me a little angry. But he's cool.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Like they have a good relationship. They're they're great siblings.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're super comfortable together. They when they're talking to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: each other on the couch later in the episode, it
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't feel like there's that all camera.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: No, they're great, and so he stays around and is
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the bartender. He dresses up in a great disguise. I
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: know he said that the disguise is goofy Steve Harvey, but
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: it's it's a great disguise.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't have recognized him. Only a few.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Guys did weird the way that those guys did. Like,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: did those guys watch the episode with Charity's Brotherler, like
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the day before they started filming, Because there's no way,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: at least for me, three months removed from watching that episode,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna remember that guy well enough, you know, to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: like spot him at a bar.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: To their benefit, Ashley, I think they've known Charity was
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: going to be the bachelorette. I mean this, remember they
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: were announced and filming started pretty quickly right after this,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Like this is not that long after the final rows.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And they were doing their research.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, you do you look into their life, their family,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: you figure out like what questions are, like you do it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: It's not I remember a few.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Seasons agoing that one guy like made a playbook that
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: was weird, that was a little overkill, But for the
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: most part, you do do your research. You understand who
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: you're going today, and so it's not shocking that they
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: maybe recognized him. But it was a good disguise. It
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: was a great setup. I think when I was watching this,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I love it. In fact, I wanted to start a
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: dating show years ago that I actually wrote out. I
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: have a whole thing for it where siblings or parents
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: or best friends set up their friend on a blind date,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and the parents and siblings and best friends sit behind
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: the scenes and watch this date go down, and they
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: help kind of like you know, scar it, yeah, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: steer the conversation. So I love this idea of having
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the brother there. I don't think every fan's gonna love it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: I think that some fans might find it like cheesy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe I would just say it's hard to get everybody.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: The Bachelor's tried a lot of new things in the
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: last few years. Some of the things we've loved and
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: people have hated. Some of the things we've hated people
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: of love. I think this will be one of the
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: most likable kind of things they've tried to do to
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: change stuff up. I really enjoyed it, like I loved it.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: So we always say that they need to do something
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: different Night one. I think that was the perfect little
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: antidote for me. Maybe they're listening to us, Maybe they are.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Do you were you disappointed to know that he won't
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: be sticking around for other episodes?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: He'll be better?
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Why did he have to reveal himself? Maybe not every episode,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: but like you know, a couple of weeks down the road.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It's just fun for us, and I do think it's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: infilmentive for.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Here's the deal, here's my philosophy. They knew they needed
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: to start doing stuff on Night one. The show knew
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: that Night one was pretty bland, that it didn't have
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: a spice, It didn't have like that side event that
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: allowed us all to get like watch it and kind
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: of be intrigued. Like that bar was a great like
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: bit for us to get into. I think the show's
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: assuming that if they didn't reveal him on Night one,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: there wouldn't really be a purpose to revealing him three
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: weeks in, Like Night one needed this Night one needed
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the drama, it needed the entertainment three weeks from now,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I think they're expecting that this cast will be entertaining
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: enough where like having him come in and say, hey,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: some of you I'm questioning. At that point, Charity will
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: pretty much know who is good and bad, like she'll
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: figure it out by then Night one she doesn't know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: and so having her brother there as a guide on
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Night one, I think is a valuable tool. I also
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: think it's an intriguing watch, a great bit, and I
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: think it spiced Night one up enough for us as
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: our analysts and fans of the show to talk about it,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: which we usually don't talk a lot about Night one.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Our Night one episodes on this podcast are usually thirty
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: five minutes of us breaking down the entrances, what we
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: think the season's going to look like, and then we're done.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Think about it now, Ashley, we're twenty three minutes in
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: and we are like halfway through the episode. Because that's
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: how good Night One was compared to most seasons, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of that is because of Neamayah.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I completely agree. Well, then I would suggest let's throw
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: in a friend like the Best Friends they observe week five,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you know, I.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Mean, hey, maybe next year, here's here's an idea for
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: the show. What if what if like the Bachelor's best girlfriend?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe even she's married, right, their best girlfriends. What if
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: she's like a contestant. She comes in limo terances exactly,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: they get the little wink like, hey, how are you?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: She goes and chills inside. She gets to know all
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: the women she's around for a bit. She's the mole,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: you know, she's the one.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: That's That's what I mean, Like, I want like a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: full season mole. It would be so fun and.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't change the format at all.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, and then we can see the girl powowing
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and giving the dirt. It'd be so great, it'd be awesome.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I I think they did that with the Hulu show
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: with Taye Diggs, where like they're cougars and then the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: cougar sons are integrated in the cast of all the
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: young dating contestorts.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Okay, so that's good.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about the guy that Nehemiah had
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the I don't want to call it an issue, but
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: maybe sent some red flags around. And that was by
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: far Charity's favorite of the night, Brayden. She kissed four guys,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: but she seemed way beyond with Braiden. And I get
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it because just as a girl, I'm looking at Braiden
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and he's definitely probably has the most.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Swag come on because he has an ear ring.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: No, he's cute. I like, I think he's cute. I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: charmed by him, but I know he's bad. Okay, I'm charged,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: but I know he's bad.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: I said, Ashley, what we've done this for six years.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I wasn't going to bring it up because I know
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I just continue so I know he's bad. No, I
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: continue to pound this into the ground every time, every
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: season offline, online, we have somebody that you're into that
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Ashley, watch out for this dude. We've done
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: it with leads. We won't mention names, but you've been like, oh,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: he's so great. I'm like, Ashley, pay attention, Like give
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: it a year. Something weird's gonna happen. You should have
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: been No, I'm not. I'm not denying this.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I know he's the dark.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: But you do not stop. How did you not.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: As soon as he says the words to charity? My
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: biggest problem in relationships is I can be over considerate.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: How did you not go that he's done, like he's
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: out of there, like this is even before it?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Didn't she do it? Ben it's because we're ladies and
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: we're charmed by this off the bat, and there's the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: physical attraction, and she can't deny it right now. She
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: will eventually deny it.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Though.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Anybody that tells you I have too big of a heart,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I give too much, I am way over too over considered,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you have to run from them.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: That is a red flag.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: It's an ego. It's them inflating their ego because they've
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: been told that they are not considerate, they're not giving,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: and they say that's not true. I'm going to prove
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you wrong. And how am I going to prove you wrong?
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it, like I'm just gonna say.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to prove I'm not going to do
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: with my actions. I'm not going to do with anything
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: else in my life. I'm just gonna say it. You're
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: gonna believe me, because yes, is he a good looking fella?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: He is a good looking fella. Yes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Did he dress up real nice for night one? He
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: did dress up real nice for night one. Does he
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: have an earring that doesn't look awkward on him like
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: you would look on me? Yes, he does. He has
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: his earrings.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: His earring does it gives you like a Justin timberlike
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: vibe from like two thousand. It's great. Now the ear
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: rings in the future episodes are horrendous and like that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: would have me sending him home. He's wearing like feather
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: ear rings, Like no, thanks.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the feather more. I think was cool.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, you got every every
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: viewer if you were swooned.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Whatever it was. Neamiah is not wrong.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, but can I say this?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: He is?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I get it, I get why she's charmed by him.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I know he's bad. I'm just gonna keep reiterating this.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And I thought he was far more appealing when he
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: was sitting down with her during his entrance all that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: When he did get to the bar and start kissing
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and telling so much and being like oddly over excited publicly,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: then I was starting to get a little bit of
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: a nick vibe.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, but I still don't since Ashley that
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you're fully convinced that he is.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I'm convinced. I'm fully convinced, but I just know, I
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: just I'm also just trying to put myself in her shoes,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: and I feel I was the lead. I would be like, no, no,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: this off like we are ignoring all the the flags
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, that was my question.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: If you were the lead of this season and he
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: was on your season, does he make it to week two?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, I'd be ignoring it, but probably aware that he's
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: too smooth.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Goodness, gracious, Ashley. We have so much to talk about.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: But also, I'm gonna say something really bad right now,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: go phrase yourselves, guys, I'm gonna be brutally honest. The
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: cast is attractive, of course, everybody is attractive in the
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: way that like if you're if you're in class with
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: them and then you're doing a group project with them,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: you develop a crush on them, right sure, but there's
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: not a ton of guys in this cast that you're
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: going to be like seeing at the bar and be like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: oh my god, I have to have another drink so
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: I can actually go up to him. Oh my gosh,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: like can I make eye contact with that guy? Like
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: you gonna go to Okay, thank you, ton.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: But here's the deal, and and most people could probably
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: agree with this. It's great to have swagger, it's super
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: nice to look really good for night one. But when
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: you're talking about your husband or your partner, like it's
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: not important any longer. Right, The most attractive people can
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: become very unattractive, very quickly, right, I mean, and the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Bachelor is the perfect place to experience this. I have
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: this experience where somebody on night one that you're like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: oh my goodness, like they are drop dead gorgeous. I
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: can't not like date them, and then three weeks in
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: you're like, I don't see it anymore because of personality,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: because of the way they treat other people, because of
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the things being said, like it just happens, and you
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: have it happened week over week, and so it is
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see the journey of Braiden.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: I am not putting any money behind Braiden. If I'm
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: a betting man, I'm saying that dude makes it about
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: three weeks he does something. Okay, well he does something.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: This is my bet right now, let me let me
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: let me stick my statement. Here's my statement. He's going
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to do something so inconsiderate that he is let go like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: he is going to be the most inconsiderate person on
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: this season. At some point it will be a storyline
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: we talk about and so him saying he's too over considerate,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: meaning he's too whatever that.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Means to be completely honest. I don't remember him saying that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: But it sticks out to me.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It would, it would stick out to you. And I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: was watching with Dawson, so like, I was pretty much
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: paying attention to the entire way through, but there may
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: have been a few lines where I was like taking
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: eggs away from him.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well I will say I paid attention to it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: It sticks out to me. I watch for it every season.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: The other reason I was watching for it is because
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of one liners in Night One
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: this year. A lot of people had really smooth things
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: they said, and a lot of things that you could
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: tell they prepped to say. It felt, you know, awkward
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: for me because yes, that is a pet peeve of mine.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I understand it. I'm not going to dig into it,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: but it is a pet peeve of mine. So it
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: did stand out to me. It felt like Night One
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: for as genuine and caring and honest as Charity was.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: It felt like the guys came in knowing exactly how
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: they wanted this conversation to go, and it felt like
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: at times it worked like Night One she was swooned
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: over a few times. There was a lot of kisses,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: there was a lot of connections. There was a lot
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: of people, you know, telling her how great she was
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: and is, which is awesome. She deserves that on Night one.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: But I am excited for weeks three, four five, where
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: these guys no longer have one liners to give because
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: they've ran out of them, and the genuineness and the
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: authenticity and the real conversations need to start having. That's
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: what I'm excited for because Night one, Yes, it was
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: one of my favorite night ones in a long time.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: It was one of the most awkward night ones I've
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: had a long time because of the one liners.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Really, Ben, I don't even think about this. I don't.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm the only it was.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Such a bend thing it is. I get it's also
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: probably a guy watching it. Nothing stuck out to me.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: The only thing that sticks out to me, especially as
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: something that Ben doesn't like that he's now made me
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: like and not like, is you know when they self described,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: And there's so much self describing at Night one, and
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that makes me feel like, eh, but all of the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: producers are being like, what kind of person are you? Like?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: What kind of character are you gonna bring to Charity?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: You know in the season.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Night one is always a hard watch.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: This was remember the lines that really any line really
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: gets you.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I just remember watching all these guys and being like,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: you've tried really hard for this season.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: Which is fine. I mean it's not one.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: It's all awkward, it's all weird, and there's a bunch
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of dudes trying to to hang out with one person.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: But there was kisses, which makes me think that Charity
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: was very into a lot of these guys. She does
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: feel like some of them, and I think it's awesome.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think there is a lot
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of connections, some deep connections, as we'll talk about later on,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: that this season will produce. I do feel for Nehemiah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I don't have a sister, but I would imagine the
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: feeling of having your sister, you know, thirty feet away
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: from you. Like I know where his bar was set
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: up at the mansion. It's not far from most of
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: the seating, and he's sitting there with a very clear
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: view of his sister and these guys making out.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's weird, and maybe it's
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: weird come on as okay as a sister or sister thing,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Like if my sister was over there making out, I'd
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: be like giggling, not like thinking it was gross. But
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sure as a girl, a brother or sister a
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: relationship is probably gross.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that he's just like super chill with this,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: And I can't imagine that he's just like, oh, that's cool,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: there's my sister making out with the dude, Like I
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: don't and like, just from the small bit we got
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: to see a nama, I can tell he's a great
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: a great dude, a great brother, cares a lot, wants
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: to see his process not only bring joy to his sister,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: but also brings some type of like future for his
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: sister when it comes to a partner, Like you can
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: tell in just a way he communicated with her, in
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: the way that he walked through that evening, and the
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: jokes that he made about himself and the awkwardness that
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: he felt at times that he was not there to
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: stand in the middle and be the bully big brother
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: that's like, you know, forcing Charity to make the right
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and wrong decision. Even when he presented Braden to her.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: It was like, hey, I know you're into this guy.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I know you're like I know you like like what's
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: going on right now, but just be careful, like just
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: and I trust you to make that decision for yourself
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: whenever you want to make that decision. I just trust that,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: like you are looking into this. He was awesome, But
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine that was fun for him. I can't
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: imagine it was easy. I'm sure at times when these
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: guys are like, yeah, I was just making out there
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: over there, he's like, oh really, go screw like, screw
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you man.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: No, He's like you cringe. He's fine. I don't think
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: he's not effective by I thought he had probably had
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a great time. Need to get on sav he's bartending.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: He looks like Steve Harvey. Bring him on, totally get
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: him on.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Let's bring him on. I want to talk.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I want him on for next week. This is a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: serious request. Producers. Okay, before we get into the first
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: and Russian rows, let's just talk about the kisses. There
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: is Aaron b there is Braiden. There was Josh was John,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: which actually I was like kind of more surprised by
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and who am I missing? I don't know there's one
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: other kiss.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I don't write them all down. I mean Braiden Aaron B.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: John definitely stood out. I don't think she kissed Joey
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: or Xavier on night one.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: No, no, she didn't.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: I will say, uh, my top top person after night one.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: And I think he.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: You just saw it in how he handled the evening
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: was Aaron B. I think he stood out to the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: brother because he was at the bar kind of hanging
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: out and hearing, you know, a lot of the stuff,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: and then when the guy asked, did you kiss her?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: He was like, we had a great time, but I'm
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: not going to just like tell everything. Braiden was over
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: in the corner kind of during the entrance in the Amayah,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: expressing to aar and B how great his kiss was,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and Aaron B just kind of stood there, probably not
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: loving it, probably finding it very inappropriate for another guy
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: to be telling another contestant about that evening. But he
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: just stood there and you could just tell he took
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: it in and was like, hey, man, you you aren't
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: a threat to me this. You don't make me nervous.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I am gonna be shocked if Aaron B. Is not
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: there at the end just after Night one.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know, Aaron b is definitely the long hauler.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: And by the way I figured it out, it's Xavier
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: who was the fourth.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Kiss Okay, so that was Zavier, So there was four kisses.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's many other guys that she was probably
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: just as equally into as she was, you know, the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: guys that she kissed. But these are the guys that
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: kind of had to make, you know, the storylines on
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: night one. And I think there's all I think it's
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: a good group. As you said, I don't think, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: this is a group just full of stop you know,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: stop yourself in your tracks and you know, do a
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: double check because these guys are like so ungodly good looking.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: But I do think it's a good looking group of
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: solid dudes. And for the most part, if we think
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: about this episode, there was really only one person that
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: caused any type of controversy at Night one, and that
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: was Brayden, I know, is.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: A troublemaker and we all know it. Who Sean with
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the hair. Sean with the hair. The hair looks ridiculous.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well well I think we see that in the
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: preview also, so okay.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be a troublemaker. Okay, let's talk about
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Braiden getting the first impression Rose. So basically she's worn
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: to not really give it to him, but then she's like,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: guess what, I'm gonna give it to him anyway because
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: her brother seeing that he's just like two kiss and
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Telly right, But she likes the fact that he's so
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: thrilled by his experience with her that he needs to
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: tell everyone. She terpreters did it a totally different way.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there's a conversation that's taken out
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: of the edit where her brother was like, bo, it
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: seems like he's really genuinely into I.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Don't think it was taken out. I mean, I think
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the way her brother presented it to her, I mean
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: he definitely allowed the space for her to interpret from
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: that conversation whatever she would like. He did not say
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think brings the guy for you. I don't
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: want to see him around again. Like he didn't say
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: any of that. He said, here's a deal. I have
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: weird feelings about this kinda but charity. You gotta do
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: what you gotta do. And he I think we did
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: see NEAMAI saying he's obviously very into you and you're
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: very into him. Yeah, and so that's fine. It's night one.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I thought again, Neiamiah handled that conversation really well. I
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: did not expect him to get the first impression rose.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: It did feel like a slap in the face to
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of the guys when he did get the rose.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: I imagine it going down like this behind the scenes.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: You want to hear my theory, Yes, yes, I feel
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: similar things. I think.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: So Charity is into this dude. It's very obvious.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: She has the conversation with her brother where her brother says, hey,
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: just watch out for him. But he's very into you,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: and he's very open about being into you. I don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: like that, but Charity, you gotta do what you gotta do.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Is it a bad thing? I'm kind of playing Devil's
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: advocate right now, But is it really a bad thing?
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's a very inappropriate thing.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: It shows a lack of maturity and respect for the
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: other guys there, and it shows a lack of respect
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: for Charity because if you in this format had a
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: guy going around sharing every little detail of every conversation,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: every kiss, every romantic moment that you had that's unfair
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: to Charity because it ruins the other relationships and it
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: puts this image in their head and this thought in
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: their head. That is unfair to Charity because she's still
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: trying to pursue other relationships.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Now, it's really weird to put yourself in his shoes too,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: where like Bryden is going around telling everybody about the kiss,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: and even if you're like the most extrovert, like non
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: private person on the show, you liken never really go
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and tell anybody about your intimate moments as the lead
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: unless they're like your best friends after a few weeks,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and then I'm still weird too.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me bring this into perspective
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: for you, Ashley. Okay, so Jared, Jared's a great dude.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: He's one of the best men I've ever met.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: You're so sweet.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: But Jared's on the show, right, And what do you
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: ever see Jared going on a date during his time
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: in the Bachelor and coming back and telling all the
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: dudes about every detail of that date.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: No, it's super weird. It is why he's playing Devil's advocate.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Just remind just remember that.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: But why would Jared not do that? You know, Jared.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Why would he not be that guy.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Because like those things are supposed to be between the two
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: people dating.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And there's a respects the person he's dating, he respects
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: the other men in the house, he respects his friendships.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he respects their expect.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Any other men is a big part of that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Actually.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so I think right there we would say, no,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: it's not a great decision because one of the best
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: dudes we know would never do that out of respect
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and maturity and care for not only of the men,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: but also the lead of the show. And so when
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I see that, and that's the perspective I look at,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: I go, when Braiden did this, I said, the dudes
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I know that are good dudes. They wouldn't have done this.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: They would have never even thought of doing this. They
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: would never even would have They would have gone out
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: of their way to not do this.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Now I have another question for you. Do
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: you think that Charity, if she would have actually seen it,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: would have been turned off by it and it made
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a different decision. So what do you think she's got
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: lust blinders? On?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: No, I think it's different on night one.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I think in five weeks, if somebody did this, then
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: she would be upset. But I think on night one
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: it is such an emotional rollercoaster. It is so exciting.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: You're just hoping that somebody there is into you. Really,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is every leads concern is these people
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: are gonna showuplay and be like, gosh, dang it, like
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: let's go through this. And I think on night one
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: that validation feels really good, and it feels healthy, and
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: it feels it feels like it's never going to cause
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: an issue.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: It just in your mind.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I think, as the lead, you're thinking these people being
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: so into me is only gonna benefit the process because
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: now they're gonna be so solely focused on getting to
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: know me of going on dates with me, and they're
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: almost gonna be not I'm gonna say competing, but I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: think you know what I mean, for like the for
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: me that this is gonna work because they are into me.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: But in five weeks, when these relationships do progress and
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: she is more comfortable within them and there is things
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: that she's trying to protect to continue on with other
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: relationships apart from maybe the one with Braden, she's gonna
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: be a lot more sensitive to the damage that those
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: conversations that he's having outwardly can cause on the other
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: relationships that she's into right now. It's not a problem
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: five weeks from now, big problem.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. And it would come across way weirder if
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: he was doing this for in the weeks to come.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Sure, so Hey, not necessarily a deal breaker, not necessarily
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: a reason not to give him a rose, but it
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: is something to look out for as the season progresses.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: For him getting the first impression Rods, I do feel
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: like was weird to go back to how I think
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: this worked behind the scenes. I think that Charity has
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: this conversation with her brother, she goes and sits with Braden.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: He tells her, Hey, you know what, I'm just so
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: into you it is hard for me to keep it in.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: And she's going, this is what I needed on night one.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: And the producers are saying validate. They're all they're telling her,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: because they're not telling her to give them the first
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: impression rows.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: They don't do that again. I but they're definitely saying
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: validate the excitement.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: The excitement because he's feeling out on himself. He's feeling
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: awkward because he got called out by your brother and
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: these other guys. He's feeling like maybe he didn't do
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: something right, and they're saying, just validate that he's okay
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: and give them the first impression rows And it works
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: out best for everybody because now there's a target on
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: the back of the guy that the producer is definitely
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: wanted the target on the back of, and Braiden's feeling
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: more validated. So his behavior is only going to continue
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: to go in the direction it was before. The guys
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: are upset with Braiden. He's an easy guy to get
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: upset with. He is a front runner, he is attractive,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: he is you know, swoony, he is smooth, all these things.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: Everything works out, and so the producers, even though they
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: don't tell her you have to give this to him,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: they're in the control room going, yes, it worked out
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: like we hoped it would.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Ben Bravo, that was such a clarifying explanation as to yeah,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I love that, Thank you. Really you pinpointed.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: It because they don't. It's not scripted. I just want
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: to be clear.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: The producers are never telling her you have to this
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: or you have to do that, like that is not
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: a thing. And I don't think it takes away from
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: the legitimacy of the show to say, but they do
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: have like their idea ideal storyline on night one, Like,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: they do have this idea. Okay, if Aaron Bee gets
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: the first impression Rose, like, here's what here's how it's
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: going to be taken. Yeah, if Braiin gets it, here's
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: how it's going to be taken. And so when they
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: saw the opportunity for Braiden to get it, they said, whoo,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: the sky's have opened up again.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, so they either really would love to have like
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: the long term love be the first impression Rose or
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: the villain to be. And in this case, when she
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: when he got the first impression Rose, my first thought was, oh,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: this is one of the seasons where the villain to
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: be will be getting the Rose, a guy that's not
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: going to stick around super long, someone who really pulled
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the wool over her eyes initially. Okay, do we even
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: remember the guys names that got eliminated?
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: Okay, so, but they're all really good looking. I just
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: feel like they didn't, you know, they didn't get their
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: shot with her, Like there wasn't a guy that was like,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: oh he was definitely going home on night one. There
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: was nobody on night one that I felt like they're gone.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Sneak peek upcoming episodes. What's what obviously
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: is really standing out to us is Brandon's ear rings
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and the fact that he will be into drama. The
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: fact that the guy with the swoopy hair will also
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: what's his name, Sean, I don't know who we're talking about. Sean, Yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Sean will also beginning to drama. Joey with the Tongue.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Joey says at one point that he's falling in love
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: with Jaredy in the the scenes for the next episode,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: so like we think that he'll probably be around for
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: quite some time. That's not a shock to me at all.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I think Joey's definitely top six in this group.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Don't we see it with Dunton. Dunton says as well,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: and Aaron B.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Dunton definitely says something serious about being into her at
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: a dinner table. So I think he gets to be
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: around for a while, and then I think the drama
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: will just be at the end. Just seems to be
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: what it's been for a while now thanks to you
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: that she's fallen in love with multiple people, they really
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: stole that storylining. What was it? Ben?
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Was that the best thing that ever happened to the
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Bachelor and Bachelorette? Seriously, I guess so was my pain
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: like the sword they needed me to fall on so
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: they could open up a whole new chapter of the show.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I watched this last night and I was like, wait,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: everybody's gonna watch this one and be numb to it,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: but also feel for her. I know how they're gonna smile.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: They're like, this is so hard. I get it. When
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: I did it, it was the opposite. And I was
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: watching this and Jess was sitting in the room with me,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: and I said, Honey, and I've never had this feeling
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: in my life. I'm want to say it here because
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: it tread. I was like, am I the best thing
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: that ever happened to the show?
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Am I?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Oh my god? I never says things like that, and I.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Love it, But at some point it's like this thing
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: is happening in it.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: And when I did it, I had to.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Explain myself of how in the world could you fall
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: in love with two people and how in the world
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: can you tell two people you love them and how
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: in the world could it be so hard to have
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: somebody to go home on the day. And it's like,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it just was like it felt very
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: human to me.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: It felt very real to me.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: It fat now every lead is like I'm falling in
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: love with theltle. People that were like, of course you are, Yeah,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: of course. We feel so bad that you have to
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: make this difficult decision between multiple people that you are
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: obviously in love with. It's it's so believable.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: And it is believable.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but when I did it, it was I got crushed,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: like absolutely destroyed. It was like everything good is every
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: This season pretty much had like nothing dramatic, maybe even nothing.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's the best thing that ever happened to me
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: because the one thing that kept my storyline continuing. And
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I guarantee like their tweets like she pulled the Ben Higgins,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I guarantee that. So maybe it's the best thing that
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: ever happened to me. Is I did something controversial.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: You did something in pop culture history that will live long.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Oh well, I watched it and I said, I feel
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: pretty Charity, I feel bad for you. I know how
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: this feels. I know that it sucks. I know that,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: like it's confusing. I know that you're not used to this.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I know I know how this feels charity. I watch
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: it with that and then I stopped and I said,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: time out, time out. People are gonna feel for her.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: And when I did it, I got crushed and I
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: felt very alone and very confused, and I felt, I literally, actually,
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: here's something crazy.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Never said this.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: I went to therapy because of this with the show's therapist.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which she was amazing.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: And said to her, I remember this exact conversation. I said, Hey,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: this is real to me. I felt this way. I
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: don't want to deny that I did feel this way.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Am I like, is there something wrong with me?
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Am I the weirdo?
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Not?
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely weird, but it's like, am I do I
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: have deep seated issues with me? Because I said this
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: and because I felt this, like, am I ever going
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: to be able to find my partner? Because of how
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I felt during this show? It was a real thing
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: to me because I felt so alone and so isolated
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: and so much like the world said, how in the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: world that you could never feel that way?
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: I would never feel that way?
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Well, got news for you, everybody it happens, and Charity
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: experienced it, and if you trust Charity and you like Charity,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: well yeah, there's some more validation.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Ben. Maybe we should do like a therapy session with
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: you and all the leads that said this, Like you
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: guys have a good group convos, there'd be thirty.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: Of us, there'd be every one of us have felt
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: this way. So I'm just a first to say it outwardly.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: So maybe that makes me.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Stupid. I don't know.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: There's no other moment, and the scenes in the next
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: episode that I liked. We're obviously gonna have like a
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: badass chick moment with Charity. Don't know what it's about yet,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: but I know that she's like the kind of girl
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: that is just so likable. But then like when she
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: needs to stand up for herself, she's just gonna rocket
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: And I'm excited for that moment.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she rips that rose off of him. I forget
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: what she said.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's right, she goes you think that like, you
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: can't I can't just pick that right back off of
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: you or something like that.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I think she like swears and then takes it and
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: walks off. I'm like, I want to see this so bad.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I love those moments because that guy obviously deserved.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: It, and it was Sean. I think, yeah, well.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: We can hope Ashley. It's gonna be a great season.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: It's good to be back into it. It's good to
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: have a season airing, and I think this is going
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: to be a good season. I hope people tune in
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: and if you're not watching yet and you're just listening
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: to the podcast, because we have gotten that feedback.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Some people do. Guys.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's gonna be worth watching at
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: least tune in for a few episodes to see how
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: you feel about it. It's I think it's gonna be
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: one that brings fans back and that that is something
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: that all of us want, and so tune into this
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: this season, charity season of The Bachelor at season twenty.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: We'll be back next week breaking down week two of
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: this season. We're not missing a week, even with the
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: holidays coming up. So until then, I've been Ben, I've
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: been Ashley.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: See you guys next week.
• 52:29
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• 52:32
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