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Minisode: Nickname for Jupiter with Chelsea + Catherine · Dear Chelsea

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  Speaker 1: This is Chelsea Handler from Dear Chelsea. I just announced
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  Speaker 1: all my tour dates. They just went on sale this week.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the High and Mighty Tour. I will be
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  Speaker 1: starting debuting my new material. Well I've already started debuting
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  Speaker 1: my new material, but in an organized tour form in
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  Speaker 1: February of next year. So I'm coming to Washington, d
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  Speaker 1: c Norfolk, Virginia, Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Detroit, Michigan, Cleveland, Columbus,
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  Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, Ohio, Denver, Colorado, Portland, Maine, Providence, Rhode Island, Springfield, Massachusetts, Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: of course, Indianapolis, Indiana, Louisville, Kentucky, Albuquerque, Masa, Arizona, Kansas City, Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis, Missouri, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Nashville, Tennessee, Charlotte, North Carolina, Durham,
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  Speaker 1: North of Carolina, Saratoga, California, Monterey, California, Modesto, California, and
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  Speaker 1: port Chester, New York, Boston, Massachusetts, Portland, Oregon, and Seattle, Washington.
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  Speaker 2: I will be touring.
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  Speaker 1: From February through June. Those are the cities that I'm in.
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  Speaker 1: Pre sale started last week, so tickets are flying. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't added second shows yet, but we probably will be
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  Speaker 1: to some of these, So go get your tickets now
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  Speaker 1: if you want good seats and you want to come
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  Speaker 1: see me perform, I will be on the High and
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  Speaker 1: Mighty tour.
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  Speaker 3: Well Hi, Chelsea, what's up?
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  Speaker 2: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: I had a photo shoot yesterday for the cover of
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  Speaker 1: Snow magazine, which is like a ski magazine. So I
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  Speaker 1: had a cover so I was like, Oh good, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about my body at all because
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  Speaker 1: I'll be in ski clothes.
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  Speaker 2: And then I woke up. I was so excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yay, I just get to have to be
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  Speaker 1: smiling and muffy thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then I.
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  Speaker 1: Looked at the mood board for the photo shoot and
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  Speaker 1: guess who's in a bathing suit on skis.
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  Speaker 3: As Yeah, yeah, I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I can't. How can I What
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  Speaker 1: am I going to say to that I don't do that?
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  Speaker 1: So then I got I was like, oh fuck. So
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  Speaker 1: I texted my makeup artists and I was like, bring
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  Speaker 1: body makeup. Obviously watching on your sore, conjuring everywhere. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I have cell you light in places that
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  Speaker 1: are not cute, you're not used to.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm used to it.
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  Speaker 1: I've had it for a long time, but it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you could prep yourself.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it was just it ended up being
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  Speaker 2: a great photo shoot.
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  Speaker 1: The photographer was there and the first thing he said
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  Speaker 1: to me was, I know you like to take your
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  Speaker 1: time with everything, and then we all burst out laughing
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  Speaker 1: because clearly he got the memo that everything is as
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  Speaker 1: fast as possible, as quick as possible, and that's how
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  Speaker 1: I like sex too, Let's go hurry up. So it
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  Speaker 1: was actually ended up being a really good photo shoot.
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  Speaker 1: I got some hot photos out of that, hopefully. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if not, they'll just have to retouch them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's easy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not against that, just as long as I don't
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  Speaker 4: use AI and give you seven fingers.
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  Speaker 3: On one hand, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I saw another bad AI this morning. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: AI is having a meltdown, truly. There was a big
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  Speaker 1: AI that came out last week right that got panned
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  Speaker 1: because it was giving misinformation about former presidents and the states,
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  Speaker 1: the names of states, like it was basic information. So
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  Speaker 1: it was like sounded like it was crashing. But I
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  Speaker 1: still don't even really understand AI and I do. It
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  Speaker 1: does help me a lot with my Spanish. Oh that
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  Speaker 1: I mean more than my Spanish instructure. Like when I
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  Speaker 1: ask AI to can break down the difference between like
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  Speaker 1: KDAR and you know another guardar, and because I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand the difference, it will really I'm like, oh, this
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  Speaker 1: is good INPROOD, but I try not to use it
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  Speaker 1: because I heard that every time you use it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you're basically like killing you know, a far rounding trees.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when I try. This is actually good for
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  Speaker 4: people to know because I don't like to use it either.
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  Speaker 4: And Google sort of automatically makes you do it now,
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  Speaker 4: So if you don't want to use AI, you can
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  Speaker 4: type your search in like where are my tomato plants dying?
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  Speaker 4: Which is what I typed in recently, and then you
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  Speaker 4: do the little minus sign and AI. So you type
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  Speaker 4: in your search minus AI and it won't give you AI.
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  Speaker 3: For Google Yah and Chrome, yes, I think in Chrome.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the difference is really,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, minus AI, I see, because it always says
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  Speaker 1: AI generated Yes exactly. Okay, Well that's good to know.
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  Speaker 1: At some point you're gonna have to explain to me.
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  Speaker 1: What Reddit is and substack, because I somehow I'm a
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  Speaker 1: member of substack, but yet I've never joined.
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  Speaker 3: I actually think that I'm prepared to do that right now?
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, great, I am. Well.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Reddit the other day during an interview and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, you're all over Reddit to someone and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what I know.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I heard. I've heard of Reddit, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not on it, So what do I say.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't start using it that much until recently. But
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  Speaker 4: basically Reddit is almost like people can go in and
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  Speaker 4: post their opinions or ask questions, and like other people
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  Speaker 4: will comment on it. So to use the same example,
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  Speaker 4: like I can go in and say like, hey, why
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  Speaker 4: why are my zucchinis.
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  Speaker 3: Not growing properly?
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  Speaker 4: And I'll have seventeen people be like, Oh, you need
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  Speaker 4: to use this kind of fertilizer or you need to
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  Speaker 4: water them more and they're not getting enough sunlight.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like real people answering your questions.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm finding it really helpful in the age of AI,
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  Speaker 4: because half of the time an AI answer is wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Right, is it? That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: My cousins told me that Google's wrong too, like that
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  Speaker 1: Google's just an aggregate of all this information so that
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  Speaker 1: sometimes it gives you correct information and then sometimes it
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  Speaker 1: just gives you random information.
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  Speaker 3: That is true.
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  Speaker 4: But I find AI is like kind of just going
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  Speaker 4: and getting random stuff and like putting a little synopsis,
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  Speaker 4: and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like like fifty percent of the time it's not true.
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  Speaker 4: I find So this is actually real people answering your question,
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  Speaker 4: which could also not be true.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's true.
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  Speaker 2: There's something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to take a little bit with a
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  Speaker 3: grain of salt.
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  Speaker 4: But it's also there's a dark side of Reddit where
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  Speaker 4: there's like all kinds of bad stuff. You don't want
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  Speaker 4: to go on that side of Reddit, Like what like
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  Speaker 4: I don't I mean like nasty porn and stuff like
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  Speaker 4: not normal porn, like not good.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't there be one platform that's just good and nice,
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  Speaker 1: don't know?
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  Speaker 2: Why does everything go to shit?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm scared of AI so much, because it's like,
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  Speaker 1: of course there's going to be good stuff that comes
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  Speaker 1: out of it, but there's going to be so much
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  Speaker 1: bad stuff that comes out, so much bad stuff. When
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  Speaker 1: I heard on that yeah that they have self preservation,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god.
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  Speaker 3: That the bad guys that AI.
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  Speaker 1: Has basically been engineered now to understand, well, not intentionally,
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  Speaker 1: but to understand that if you're shutting down a system
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  Speaker 1: and replacing it with a higher performing, more nuanced system,
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  Speaker 1: more and more comprehensive system, it will fight to remain alive,
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  Speaker 1: like a fucking alien World war Z or like the Terminator.
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  Speaker 3: I know we've had these movies before.
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  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we did, and that's where we got all
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  Speaker 1: these ideas. I mean, talk about stupid and stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what.
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  Speaker 4: On that note, let's have a little bit of a
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  Speaker 4: nice transition into a nice response we got from a listener.
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  Speaker 3: I can say nice a few more times if we
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  Speaker 3: need to.
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  Speaker 4: So Deanna called in on our Rachel Bloom episode several
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  Speaker 4: months ago, and she had.
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  Speaker 3: Lost a beloved dog and you advised her to get
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  Speaker 3: a new one. Stet So she said.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I forgot dog.
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  Speaker 3: Oh shit, is he at home? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I forgot to bring him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, I forgot I meant to bring
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  Speaker 1: him today anyway, Okay, go.
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  Speaker 4: On, that's okay because one of our guests that we're
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  Speaker 4: recording with today is actually bringing her dog.
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  Speaker 3: So well, we all have a dog.
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  Speaker 4: But she said, we did take Chelsea said, we met
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  Speaker 4: and picked up our new lover today. His name is Jupiter.
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  Speaker 4: We love hiking the mountains together. She's in Colorado. The
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  Speaker 4: advice really helped and made us feel much less It
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  Speaker 4: made me feel much less alone in my grief.
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  Speaker 3: All the best, Deanna.
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  Speaker 2: That's cute.
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  Speaker 1: And then for a nickname, Juw, I mean that'll work
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  Speaker 1: out nicely, excellent.
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  Speaker 3: Preat preat.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So we do have a question, okay, caller, and
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  Speaker 4: I think this is specifically a really good question for you.
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  Speaker 3: So m Rossio is calling in from Rome. She Rome, Wow,
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  Speaker 3: how did we work that time different?
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  Speaker 2: So you know what? Actually?
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  Speaker 4: Like our pre interview call was dangerously middle of the
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  Speaker 4: night for her, but this one is like early evening.
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  Speaker 4: So her subject line is should I fake a psychedelic trip?
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  Speaker 4: Dear Chelsea, My name is Rossio and a forty six
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  Speaker 4: year old single woman writing to you from Rome. I
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  Speaker 4: need some advice and couldn't think of anyone better than
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  Speaker 4: you for this one. I don't drink alcohol, never have,
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  Speaker 4: I don't smoke, don't even drink coffee for that matter.
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  Speaker 4: I just have never been interested in any of it.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's mostly because I'm autistic diagnosed about fifteen
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  Speaker 4: years ago. I've done my work in therapy and can
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  Speaker 4: say I'm very happy where it has all led me.
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  Speaker 4: I do still have some issues with OCD and letting
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  Speaker 4: go of control. Some years ago, a friend of mine,
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  Speaker 4: also autistic, suggested I take MDMA to help me with that.
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  Speaker 4: I considered it for a long while, but never got
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  Speaker 4: myself to do it. Back then, well, three years ago,
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  Speaker 4: I was with a childhood friend who now lives in Barcelona.
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  Speaker 4: He had just broken up with a boyfriend and was
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  Speaker 4: sad and alone in Amsterdam. So I hopped on a
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  Speaker 4: plane and joined him there for a couple of days.
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  Speaker 4: It was there that he proposed we take MDMA together,
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  Speaker 4: and without overthinking it too much for once, I just did.
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  Speaker 4: For anyone who has experienced it, you know how amazing
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  Speaker 4: your first Molly trip can be. From that day on,
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  Speaker 4: me and my friend decided we would trip together and
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  Speaker 4: help each other sort out our personal difficulties.
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  Speaker 3: We trust each other.
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  Speaker 4: And feel safe sharing our innermost thoughts without being judged,
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  Speaker 4: and so it began. Every three months he would come
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  Speaker 4: to Rome or I would go to Barcelona for our
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  Speaker 4: spiritual retreats as we call them. We do this indoors
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  Speaker 4: at home with our chill music, and it's done miracles
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  Speaker 4: for us, truly life changing.
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  Speaker 3: About six months.
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  Speaker 4: Ago, I switched things up a bit by introducing LSD
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  Speaker 4: into the picture. It blew our minds. If Molly had
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  Speaker 4: helped so far, then LSD just took us to a
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  Speaker 4: whole new level of awareness. The thing is, Chelsea, we
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  Speaker 4: are talking big doses here, not microdosing. The last trips
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  Speaker 4: have left me feeling physically off, and it takes me
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  Speaker 4: days to recover. I'm also at a point in my
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  Speaker 4: life where I feel the very best I've ever been.
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  Speaker 4: Everything is perfect and I'm aligned just right. I have
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  Speaker 4: an amazing life, a job I love, and loving friends
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  Speaker 4: and family. I think I've done lots and lots of
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  Speaker 4: soul searching and acceptance thanks to those substances, but I
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  Speaker 4: think for now I'm done with them. My friend is
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  Speaker 4: coming soon for our next scheduled trip at my place.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really not feeling it this time. I don't have
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  Speaker 4: the excitement I usually get when the day of the
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  Speaker 4: trip approaches. I'm at a crossroads and don't know whether
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  Speaker 4: I should just tell my friend I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: do it, and be a party pooper, or maybe I
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  Speaker 4: should just fake it. Yes, you heard right, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 4: about faking the trip. As women, we know pretty darn
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  Speaker 4: well how to fake many things. I know that if
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  Speaker 4: I tell him I don't want to do it, then
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  Speaker 4: he just wouldn't want to do it alone. For him,
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  Speaker 4: it's either we do it together or nothing. He's been
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  Speaker 4: really looking forward to it and counting the days, and
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  Speaker 4: I know not being truthful about it is not nice,
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  Speaker 4: but I do it just because the arrangements have already
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  Speaker 4: been made.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Am I overthinking? And should I just trip with him?
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  Speaker 4: Should I explain and be a party pooper? Should I
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  Speaker 4: just fake it and let him have his trip?
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  Speaker 3: Chelsea? Please help?
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  Speaker 2: Ros Ceo Hi, roe Ceo, Hi, Hi? How are you mine?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so excited about this advice you're about to give
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  Speaker 5: me because I'm really lost here and I thought this
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  Speaker 5: was such a perfect question for you.
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  Speaker 2: So it is a good question for me.
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  Speaker 3: Right on the money.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I would always advise that if you
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  Speaker 1: don't feel like doing a drug, do not do it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be in the right head space to
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  Speaker 1: do a drug. You do not need to lie to
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  Speaker 1: your friend. Your friend is going to understand that you're
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  Speaker 1: not in the mood to do it if you've done
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  Speaker 1: like you found something you loved and it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: you really went for it enthusiastically, like with great intentions
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  Speaker 1: of like having a great journey, and you've accomplish that,
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  Speaker 1: and then you kind of took it farther and farther,
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  Speaker 1: or I should say further and further. But you don't
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  Speaker 1: need to push things like that. Like that's what we get.
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  Speaker 1: We get greedy with the results of things, right. We
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  Speaker 1: want we like something the way it affects us, We
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  Speaker 1: want more of that. So it's like that dopamine hit
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  Speaker 1: of something really clicking. But I would say, like, just ay,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry about your friend making arrangements. You guys have
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  Speaker 1: been through all of this stuff together. He's definitely going
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  Speaker 1: to understand that you don't want to do it, and
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  Speaker 1: he's most likely going to opt to not do it
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  Speaker 1: and spend your time together in a different way. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, have some backup plans ready. You're in Rome,
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  Speaker 1: you have a million things you can do right.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, no, for sure. I mean I was also
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  Speaker 5: worried about our friendship with friends from childhood, but in
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  Speaker 5: the last few years it's only been about the trips, right,
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  Speaker 5: And you're you great that if I take this element
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  Speaker 5: out that he will feel like, I don't know, betrayed
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  Speaker 5: or something, or that we won't that it won't be
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  Speaker 5: as deep as it has been so far.
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  Speaker 1: Now that's you being a woman and being hard scarred
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  Speaker 1: by the world because you don't want to disappoint anyone.
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  Speaker 2: That is being a woman.
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  Speaker 1: That is like the badge that we wear, and we shouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not our responsibility. You have to take care of
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  Speaker 1: yourself first and foremost, and your friend. Honestly, if he
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  Speaker 1: got there and you were like listen, I mean you
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  Speaker 1: could tell him beforehand, just to be like listen, I
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  Speaker 1: know that things are planned, but I just have to
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  Speaker 1: tell you I'm not feeling at this trip. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to go ahead and do it without me, I'm
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  Speaker 1: totally down with that, or we can hang out and
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  Speaker 1: do not.
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  Speaker 2: Do it this time.
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  Speaker 1: Like I guarantee you he's going to be looked down
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  Speaker 1: for that, and just be very honest about it.
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  Speaker 2: And if he really isn't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay with hanging out with you without tripping, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole new adventure that's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: high of its own because you guys haven't done that yet,
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  Speaker 1: And if he isn't okay with that, well then kind
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  Speaker 1: of like that's not really your friend anyway.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like it was a drug friend. So I
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  Speaker 2: really just.
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  Speaker 1: Think you need to be true to yourself, your feelings,
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  Speaker 1: your emotions, be a woman, and think of all other
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  Speaker 1: women when you make decisions for yourself.
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  Speaker 4: And I wonder if there's like something you can do
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  Speaker 4: that's not drugs but like gives you sort of a
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  Speaker 4: very novel experience or an endorphin high.
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  Speaker 3: Like I mean, I don't know if there's like bungee
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  Speaker 3: jumping home.
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  Speaker 4: But like helicopter rid or like something that's like maybe
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  Speaker 4: a little turisty, and really find something that's gonna like
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  Speaker 4: give you that a flood of endorm.
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  Speaker 5: Because I mean, because he's like very like hyperactive and everything,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm very mellow. I'm very I'm like a lone wolf,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I'm always in my space and everything. So
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  Speaker 5: we compliment each other very well because I need to
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  Speaker 5: explore more, you know, like the world in general, and
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  Speaker 5: he needs to calm down. So that's like a really
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  Speaker 5: nice dynamic we've always had. So by tripping together, I've
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  Speaker 5: been able to open up more and he's been able
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  Speaker 5: to have like less fomo and you know, like be
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  Speaker 5: in the moment and everything. So yeah, I mean I
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  Speaker 5: think I'm definitely ready to to let go of that phase.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I've I've took it, as Chelsea said, very
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  Speaker 5: as far as I could. You know, we went every
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  Speaker 5: time like it was a crescendo, And honestly, it would
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  Speaker 5: have been fine not taking all these heavy doses. But
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  Speaker 5: also then I was trying to please him and he's like,
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: let's stick more, Let's stick more, and it just cut
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: to a point that it's not enjoyable.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you overdid it and you have to be you
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: have to honor yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, it sounds like you you got to the
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: place where what you were looking for from this you know,
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: experiment and from this adventure, you got to that point
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: you know your you're loving life. You feel refreshed and
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: like you don't need to do it anymore unless you,
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: you know, get a hankering down down the road.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: No, I I just I mean, Chelsea's right, I think
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: it's just I'm just afraid to disappoint him more like
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: leave him behind. So I'm trying to please him more
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: like fake that I'm still at the point where he
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: is at. But I know I've outgrown it, you know.
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: So yeah, well that's great advice. I have to be
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: honest then.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And let him know before he makes the trip so
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't get mad at you for not telling
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: him before he got on.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Just let him know.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Go.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I still want to hang out. I think we can
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: figure out thing.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: You can even like catalog if you haven't done this already,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and maybe you have catalog all of your journeys or
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: trips that you've hunt done together.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Maybe you could do like a.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Review, you know what I mean of everything, like a
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: full scale review of everything and really talk about the
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: first time the second time, what's changed for you, what's
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: changed for him?
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Like another way to like kind of you know, have
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: some growth and like expansion, but without using the drugs.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Or even you could see like a shaman or go
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: get reiki or do something else that's sort of you
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: have a sound bath, something that's spiritual.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know about a sound bath. I think that
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: might be disappointing after an acid trip.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: But whatever, you know, I've never don an asset, so
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: it sounds great to me.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: Okay, well that's good advice, Thank you very much. I
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: was really lost with this one, so okay.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you take care of you and and then
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: your friend will take hopefully will take care of you
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: too in the same way.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: But yes, please look out for yourself. Okay, thank you.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: For calling in.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: You bye bye.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, and well that was our minisode for the week.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Catherine, all right, well we'll see you guys.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Feel minide okay, okay, bye, guys.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 16:21
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