Latest / Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood / 145. Louisa May Alcott
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to who ed What Now?
- 0:03Speaker 1: The history podcast. It's not your history class with me,
- 0:07Speaker 1: your host, Katie Charlewood, history harlot and reader of books.
- 0:13Speaker 1: It is Pride Month, everybody, And would it be Pride
- 0:16Speaker 1: month if we were upsetting transphobes.
- 0:18Speaker 2: The world over?
- 0:20Speaker 1: So first off, we have this fan cast of Zelda
- 0:23Speaker 1: going on, right, it's not even a production, it's not
- 0:26Speaker 1: even a thing. But someone said, wouldn't Hunter Shaefer be
- 0:30Speaker 1: perfect for playing Princess Zelda? And if you look at
- 0:34Speaker 1: Hunter Shaeffer, yeah, she looks like the daughter of Galadriel. Like,
- 0:39Speaker 1: she looks like Princess Zelda. And you have all of
- 0:44Speaker 1: the transphobes coming at the woodwork complaining that you know, Hunter.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Shaff is not a biological woman?
- 0:52Speaker 1: Is if Princess Zelda is a biological human like she's
- 0:57Speaker 1: from Hirol, the mythical land of hi Rul's Higlien, she
- 1:01Speaker 1: is a creature with elf like features. We don't know
- 1:05Speaker 1: anything about the biology. And I do not recall anywhere
- 1:09Speaker 1: in the Zelder lore where it specifically says that Zelda
- 1:13Speaker 1: has a vagina, I mean, nowhere to my knowledge, right,
- 1:19Speaker 1: But like, here's the thing, and no Kreena of time,
- 1:22Speaker 1: Zelda magics herself into chic into a man, right and
- 1:27Speaker 1: then and what was it? A breath of the wild
- 1:31Speaker 1: transforms into a dragon. And yet having a trans woman
- 1:35Speaker 1: play this role is somehow out and the you know,
- 1:41Speaker 1: out of bound somehow, like what is this?
- 1:43Speaker 2: It's absolutely nonsense.
- 1:45Speaker 1: And then I had another little thought that I posted
- 1:48Speaker 1: to threads, which has made more people angry.
- 1:53Speaker 2: I was like, I.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Don't get why, you know, transphobes use, you know, biology
- 1:59Speaker 1: specific in an argument against trans women, because it's always
- 2:04Speaker 1: trans women that you know, they're claiming this whole biological
- 2:08Speaker 1: thing when like in the women, like after gestation or
- 2:14Speaker 1: not during gestation, I should say at conception, you'll start
- 2:19Speaker 1: off as girls. Everyone's female xx. You know everyone starts
- 2:25Speaker 1: off that. So I don't understand the issue biologically. If
- 2:31Speaker 1: someone wants to revert to factory settings, like where's the issue?
- 2:34Speaker 2: Like, get over it?
- 2:36Speaker 1: But yeah, it was such a weird thing. But yes,
- 2:39Speaker 1: happy pride.
- 2:40Speaker 2: And so this month we are talking about LGBTQI.
- 2:46Speaker 1: If I can find them, I will talk about them.
- 2:49Speaker 1: And so I thought, I'm not talking about a trans
- 2:51Speaker 1: person today, but I am going to talk about someone
- 2:53Speaker 1: who I'm convinced is Ace, and that's my personal opinion,
- 2:58Speaker 1: along with the pinion of mood need many historians. So
- 3:02Speaker 1: here we are. But I know what you're thinking.
- 3:04Speaker 2: You're thinking, Katie quit your gibbel Jabba in fact me,
- 3:08Speaker 2: In fact you, I will. But first we've got to
- 3:11Speaker 2: get our source on.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Our sources are the Journals of Louisa May Alcott by
- 3:19Speaker 1: Madeline B. Stere, Daniel Sheeley, and Joe Myerson. Louisa May Alcott,
- 3:29Speaker 1: A Difficult Woman who Got Things done by e Hubert
- 3:34Speaker 1: Louisa on the front Lines. Louisa may Alcott in the
- 3:37Speaker 1: Civil War by Samantha Sepo. The Louisa May Alcott Encyclopedia
- 3:45Speaker 1: by Anne Kay Phillips and greg Lee Eisling White Roses
- 3:50Speaker 1: Stories of Civil War Nurses by Rebecca Larson. Louisa May
- 3:55Speaker 1: Alcott A Modern biography by Ruth Kay Donald Alcott In
- 4:02Speaker 1: her Own Time a biographical chronicle of her life drawn
- 4:06Speaker 1: from recollections, interviews and memoirs by family, friends and associates
- 4:10Speaker 1: by Daniel Sheley.
- 4:13Speaker 2: The World of Louisa.
- 4:14Speaker 1: May Alcott by William Anderson. Louisa May Alcott by Susan Schiever,
- 4:21Speaker 1: Louisa May Alcott Life Letters and Journals by Edna D. Cheney,
- 4:27Speaker 1: And of course we have our old favorites History dot
- 4:30Speaker 1: com and biography dot com. iOS did in comfortably gold.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Then let's begin.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Louisa May Alcott was born on the twenty ninth of
- 4:43Speaker 1: November eighteen thirty two in Germantown, Philadelphia, in Pennsylvania, in
- 4:49Speaker 1: the United States of America. Just in case we're not
- 4:52Speaker 1: clear on the geography. She was born to Amos Bronson Alcott,
- 5:00Speaker 1: transcendentalist and educator, and Abigail May, who was one of
- 5:05Speaker 1: the first pet social workers in Massachusetts. Abigail May was
- 5:11Speaker 1: known as Abba Abba like the Swedish pop group, which
- 5:17Speaker 1: is irrelevant, but I felt like you needed to know this.
- 5:23Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Amos Bronson Alcott, he was ducked poor. Like he not
- 5:32Speaker 1: dirt poor, but like that's a lie, that's too much.
- 5:35Speaker 2: He was quite poor. He was impoverished. And yeah, how
- 5:40Speaker 2: he landed Abba is saying something, but you know what
- 5:45Speaker 2: they say, the one all takes it all. I regret nothing.
- 5:49Speaker 1: So Louisa. She was the second of four daughters, so
- 5:54Speaker 1: there was Anna, Louisa Elizabeth and may trigger one. I'm
- 6:00Speaker 1: going to mention pregnancy loss infant loss, so I'm skipped
- 6:05Speaker 1: like five seconds. Abbas suffers four miscarriages and has one
- 6:10Speaker 1: stillborn son. When Louisa is two years old, the family
- 6:14Speaker 1: moved from Philadelphia to Boston, Massachusetts. And it's here, when
- 6:19Speaker 1: she's three years old, that she goes wandering at night.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Who is in what wise unsure? Because she's three? And
- 6:29Speaker 1: why did three year olds do anything other than confusion,
- 6:32Speaker 1: hunger or pure on adult radd rage. So she's three,
- 6:36Speaker 1: she's out for a wander, and what does she do
- 6:38Speaker 1: but falls into a frog pond and almost drowns, except
- 6:44Speaker 1: she is saved by an African American boy. And this
- 6:48Speaker 1: is something that she always remembers because he risked his
- 6:53Speaker 1: life to save her, you know, and this is a.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Time where, you know, racism is rife.
- 7:02Speaker 1: And it's very much the norm, and it really helps
- 7:05Speaker 1: her sort of have her opinion and was something that
- 7:09Speaker 1: she would later go on to say was the foundation
- 7:12Speaker 1: of her personal abolitionist beliefs. So in Boston, her dad
- 7:18Speaker 1: sets up a tempo school and he starts kicking about
- 7:24Speaker 1: with other transcendentalists like Ralph Warlow Emerson, Henry David Thorowe,
- 7:29Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hawthorne.
- 7:31Speaker 2: And Horace Mann.
- 7:33Speaker 1: So while he's doing this, Abba she was burdened with
- 7:37Speaker 1: most of the childcare juries and all of the housekeeping,
- 7:42Speaker 1: but as she wasn't too happy about that to be honest, now,
- 7:47Speaker 1: Bronson he does help with some childcare. So before Louisa
- 7:53Speaker 1: is old enough to join school, he teaches the girls
- 7:56Speaker 1: the alphabet by making shapes with their bodies like y
- 8:02Speaker 1: MCA or if that reference is too old for you,
- 8:06Speaker 1: if you're very young.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Hate ott, oht you okay, you get me, you get me.
- 8:16Speaker 2: Hopefully one of these references.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Will make sense to you. So Bronson, he had a
- 8:22Speaker 1: very strict schedule for the girls, and he believed in
- 8:25Speaker 1: the sweetness of self denial. And yeah, the girls also
- 8:31Speaker 1: had like a governess for a bit as well. So yeah,
- 8:35Speaker 1: this whole like sweetness of self denial, it's very much
- 8:39Speaker 1: along the lines.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Of self praise is no praise.
- 8:43Speaker 1: But honestly, fuck that noise, because like, if no one
- 8:47Speaker 1: else is gonna praise you, you may as well praise yourself,
- 8:49Speaker 1: you know, be proud of your achievements and the thing
- 8:52Speaker 1: you did. So yeah, this tempo school. It's progressive. Progressive
- 9:01Speaker 1: is definitely a word. And it was educating Boston's elites,
- 9:07Speaker 1: like the fancy people.
- 9:09Speaker 2: The well to do.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Only people who believed in nativism and such. Oh those
- 9:14Speaker 1: kind of people, right, and so education it's typically repetition.
- 9:21Speaker 1: It's a repetition regregitation of facts. And the way that
- 9:26Speaker 1: Bronson Alcott would teach is he would engage in conversation
- 9:32Speaker 1: and active discussions.
- 9:34Speaker 2: So he was treating sort of a.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Primary level education, sort of akin to like what people
- 9:41Speaker 1: would do in third level sort of college university, where
- 9:44Speaker 1: you have that open discussion as opposed.
- 9:47Speaker 2: To learn you know, people, places, facts, you know dates,
- 9:54Speaker 2: you know those.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Kind of things. He's like, oh, let's chat about it now.
- 9:57Speaker 2: This may shock you. But the Bostonian elites, the people
- 10:02Speaker 2: who believed that Irish were a different race, these parents
- 10:08Speaker 2: weren't too into the whole open discussions about religion and
- 10:12Speaker 2: sex in the classroom, and they started pulling their kids. Meanwhile,
- 10:18Speaker 2: Louisa is keeping a journal which her parents read and
- 10:22Speaker 2: then leave notes on her pillow. I don't know how
- 10:27Speaker 2: to feel about that, friends, I don't know how to
- 10:30Speaker 2: feel about that. So her mum gets her to write
- 10:34Speaker 2: to process her emotions because she's struggling because she's met
- 10:39Speaker 2: with the reality of being a girl in the eighteen hundreds.
- 10:43Speaker 2: She wants to play sports with the boys, but she's
- 10:46Speaker 2: not allowed because apparently having a vagina means you can't
- 10:52Speaker 2: do sports. I don't know.
- 10:55Speaker 1: And so at the Temple School, which is already losing
- 10:59Speaker 1: student and Ronson decides to allow a black student to.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Join his school.
- 11:06Speaker 1: And when he refused to kick them out, every single child,
- 11:12Speaker 1: every single white child, sorry, was removed from the school
- 11:16Speaker 1: and he was forced to close. And so the family
- 11:21Speaker 1: they moved to pastors New They moved to Concord, which
- 11:24Speaker 1: is paid for by Ralph Waldo Everson, and the girls
- 11:32Speaker 1: made friends and put on plays, you know with Hoesmer, Goodwin, Everson,
- 11:41Speaker 1: Hawthorne and Channing children. The Alcotts and the Hosmers would
- 11:47Speaker 1: put on plays together, especially so Louisa. She gets this
- 11:52Speaker 1: like formative education at the Emlson House until she's old
- 11:56Speaker 1: enough to attend Concord Academy with her older sister. And
- 12:01Speaker 1: she's really like living her best life. She's climbing trees,
- 12:07Speaker 1: she's writing poems, and like kids, they got to be kids,
- 12:13Speaker 1: and for Louisa, this was the happiest time.
- 12:17Speaker 2: Of her life.
- 12:19Speaker 1: When Louisa is eight years old, her family is struggling financially,
- 12:25Speaker 1: like her mother Abba, She's.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Like money, money, money, we need money.
- 12:32Speaker 1: And so this well educated woman, what she is doing
- 12:35Speaker 1: is she's going around asking.
- 12:37Speaker 2: For seamstress work so that they can pay for the basics. See,
- 12:42Speaker 2: Bronson is a way a lot with intellectual pursuits. So
- 12:47Speaker 2: these women and girls are having to look after themselves.
- 12:52Speaker 2: And when Louisa may Alcott is ten years old, her
- 12:56Speaker 2: dad brings two dudes back from England, Charles Layne and
- 12:59Speaker 2: Henry Write, to live at their cottage with them, the
- 13:03Speaker 2: cottage Emerson is paying for. Bronson is out philosophizing, leaving
- 13:11Speaker 2: Charles Lane at his home. Okay, that's something that he
- 13:17Speaker 2: did in Lane.
- 13:20Speaker 1: He is an absolute dick titor. He hates the girls
- 13:25Speaker 1: are strong willed and stand up for themselves. He gives
- 13:29Speaker 1: them this.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Massive learning load geometry, geography, Latin French grammar, arithmetic, music, spelling,
- 13:38Speaker 2: and journal writing. Not only does he increase the educational
- 13:43Speaker 2: workload the women, they be choring like they are constantly
- 13:49Speaker 2: working one way or another. And like when you read
- 13:53Speaker 2: old timey books about poverty and such, right, usually somewhere
- 13:58Speaker 2: somehow there's like him mad or a nanny like doing housekeeping.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Like even people who aren't that privileged, like you see
- 14:09Speaker 1: that as a very like normal thing.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Right.
- 14:13Speaker 1: However, here it's just the wife and the kids doing
- 14:16Speaker 1: all the work. Because these lofty motherfuckers they want to
- 14:21Speaker 1: establish a utopia. Because see free thing girls are congregating
- 14:26Speaker 1: to Concord and Bronzon.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Is really believing his own fan mail and.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Lane and Bronzing, they want to set up a transcendental
- 14:36Speaker 1: commune cult sort community where men and women live in harmony.
- 14:43Speaker 1: I should probably mention what transcendentalism is. So it's basically
- 14:48Speaker 1: this philosophical, philosophical, philosophical and literary movement that sort of
- 14:55Speaker 1: emerged in the nineteenth century. I'm typically around sort of
- 14:59Speaker 1: like New England in that sort of area, and Transcendentalists
- 15:03Speaker 1: believed that society and its institutions specifically like organized religion
- 15:10Speaker 1: and political parties, corrupt the purity of the individual. So
- 15:15Speaker 1: basically they believe that people are at their best when
- 15:20Speaker 1: they're self reliant and independent.
- 15:23Speaker 2: And it's only from this sort of weird kind of
- 15:25Speaker 2: individualism that true community can form, right, so kind of
- 15:32Speaker 2: like ye old hippies like pioneer hippies and other pioneers
- 15:37Speaker 2: are before this, but let me have this pioneer hippies.
- 15:42Speaker 1: So yeah, they want this commune cult community. Sorry sorry,
- 15:47Speaker 1: and effectively they want to like have this magic wee
- 15:51Speaker 1: vegan feminist utopia sixteen miles outside of Concord called Fruitlands,
- 15:59Speaker 1: not wim Lane in case you're getting confused, fruit Lands,
- 16:04Speaker 1: and so there were to be no animals hurt in
- 16:07Speaker 1: the production of this commune like they wouldn't have any
- 16:11Speaker 1: animal products at all, so like no honey, no wool,
- 16:15Speaker 1: which is ridiculous because sheep need to be shared. They
- 16:21Speaker 1: get too hot and the will gets too heavy, like
- 16:25Speaker 1: you're hurting the sheep if you don't share it. That's
- 16:28Speaker 1: why you're supposed to learn how to share things properly.
- 16:31Speaker 1: But yes, this was a commune cult farm in which
- 16:38Speaker 1: no animals were to be involved in that. So this
- 16:41Speaker 1: is a farm in the eighteen hundreds with no animals.
- 16:46Speaker 2: They thought this through. So typically if you.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Wanted to plow a field, you would have a horse
- 16:53Speaker 1: do that, but they didn't have horses because they didn't
- 16:59Speaker 1: want to. It was an animal in any way, and
- 17:02Speaker 1: so the men were the plow horses. The men had
- 17:07Speaker 1: to manually plow the fields themselves, and they couldn't plant
- 17:13Speaker 1: anything that grew down right, don't ask me for why.
- 17:19Speaker 1: But you couldn't grow a root vegetable, So you couldn't
- 17:23Speaker 1: grow potatoes. I love potatoes though, I mean, I know
- 17:28Speaker 1: it's a cuba, but like you couldn't grow turnut or beetroot, carrots,
- 17:34Speaker 1: and like they were two months behind on farming anyway,
- 17:40Speaker 1: and so by winter they had oatmeal, water and apples.
- 17:49Speaker 2: In this utopia fruitlands. So some of the neighbors who
- 17:57Speaker 2: were not in the commune, they took pity on the
- 18:00Speaker 2: family and they snuck a cow in for Abba to use.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it.
- 18:08Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. Water mood. Yeah, So they like
- 18:14Speaker 2: snuck in a cow so that Abba could secretly have
- 18:19Speaker 2: access to milk, like to secretly get milk. Like, this
- 18:24Speaker 2: is the point we're at, because they're so little food.
- 18:29Speaker 2: And if clandestine cream wasn't bad enough, you've got Charles
- 18:34Speaker 2: Lane who decided that women didn't need opinions. He decided
- 18:40Speaker 2: that men they were supposed to discuss philosophy, and women
- 18:45Speaker 2: were to discuss food and clothes.
- 18:49Speaker 1: And in this commune, and you're gonna be shocked by this,
- 18:53Speaker 1: women did all the household chores and labor. So yeah,
- 18:58Speaker 1: winter time, the family, they are freezing and starving, and
- 19:03Speaker 1: Abba is sick of being an unpaid servant and watching
- 19:07Speaker 1: her family starve.
- 19:09Speaker 2: And in January she.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Tells Bronson that she's leaving and she's taken the girls
- 19:14Speaker 1: with her. Her brother arranges a cottage just like a
- 19:17Speaker 1: few miles down the road. She packs up all the furniture,
- 19:21Speaker 1: grabs the girls, and goes. She tells him that he
- 19:25Speaker 1: is ruining their children's lives, and he must have taken
- 19:30Speaker 1: that to heart because a few months later he joins them.
- 19:40Speaker 1: So the ways I met Alcott's father, he's really sad
- 19:44Speaker 1: about leaving the fruitlands, Like he's genuinely upset about it.
- 19:48Speaker 1: He's like slobbing about not working. He's barely eating and
- 19:52Speaker 1: he just stares at the wall. Like in Abba, what
- 19:58Speaker 1: she is like getting angry, like flying into a rage
- 20:01Speaker 1: at least once a day because she has four daughters
- 20:04Speaker 1: to feed, and eleven year old Louisa she's starving and
- 20:08Speaker 1: crying herself to sleep every single night. And so they're
- 20:14Speaker 1: in this new cottage and eventually he starts manning up
- 20:18Speaker 1: and Abbat is in charge. Bronson is like planting a garden.
- 20:23Speaker 1: He's piping water into the house and he starts working,
- 20:28Speaker 1: but refuses a wedge because it's against his principles and
- 20:34Speaker 1: he doesn't want to own property. So Emerson bought property
- 20:41Speaker 1: just so that Bronson would move in. So finally Louisa
- 20:48Speaker 1: has a room of her own. They're staying in Hillside
- 20:53Speaker 1: and they break into a factory and right around in
- 20:57Speaker 1: coal carts. She gets to gnoyed by other children and
- 21:02Speaker 1: like just likes to.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Do her own thing. And at one point she just
- 21:07Speaker 2: like takes a horse and slay for a joy ride,
- 21:10Speaker 2: like she's just out there doing her thing.
- 21:14Speaker 1: Just I love the fact that Louisa Mayle caught beloved
- 21:17Speaker 1: author just goes just steals a horse and.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Slay and she's like, whoop do you do? Motherfuckers? Grand
- 21:26Speaker 2: horse auro, Grand theft horse. So there's they'll they'll be
- 21:31Speaker 2: away for me to make this work. That's not the
- 21:33Speaker 2: point Grand theft quote. Oh I'll figure something now, I'll
- 21:40Speaker 2: figure something now, So Louisa. She loved her dad, but
- 21:46Speaker 2: she saw how his idealism failed her and her sisters,
- 21:51Speaker 2: and as she grew into a teenager, she refused to
- 21:54Speaker 2: conform to feminine ideals and prepare for marriage. Quote, it
- 22:02Speaker 2: does me.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Good to be alone. I've made a plan for my
- 22:05Speaker 1: life as I am in my teens and no more child.
- 22:09Speaker 1: I'm old for my age and I don't care much
- 22:11Speaker 1: for girls things. When she wasn't rambling through the woods
- 22:15Speaker 1: and climbing trees, she wrote poetry. And yeah, she was
- 22:21Speaker 1: also a staunch abolitionist because like in the eighteen forties,
- 22:26Speaker 1: the slavery debate is happening and thousands of escaped enslaved
- 22:31Speaker 1: people fled to the Northern States and mom and pop
- 22:37Speaker 1: they were actually active in anti slavery societies in sheltered
- 22:41Speaker 1: runaway like formerly enslaved people at Hillside. So their house,
- 22:47Speaker 1: their little collage, was a stop on the railroad. So yes,
- 22:52Speaker 1: the Alcots were part of the underground railroad. Which is
- 22:59Speaker 1: probably the coolest about Bronson. I've got to be honest.
- 23:04Speaker 2: Because Bronson, he is faffing about and pursuing intellectual shit
- 23:10Speaker 2: instead of earning a wage.
- 23:13Speaker 1: To you know, ensure that his you know, family are fed. Like,
- 23:19Speaker 1: how how can you be this disillusioned?
- 23:23Speaker 2: How okay, it's fine, abbas patals. They are shocked at
- 23:30Speaker 2: how she's living, and they arrange for her to get
- 23:33Speaker 2: a social work job back in Boston because there are
- 23:39Speaker 2: loads and loads of poor Irish immigrants there and she
- 23:44Speaker 2: is working. She's got loads of work there because of this,
- 23:49Speaker 2: but it's not enough to alleviate the family debt.
- 23:55Speaker 1: And so Louisa and the family they rendered out Hillside
- 23:59Speaker 1: and they in a small house in Boston. Louisa said,
- 24:06Speaker 1: I always left a keep house feeling like a cage
- 24:10Speaker 1: seagull as I washed dishes and cooked. She supported her
- 24:15Speaker 1: family as she could, taking on odd jobs and even
- 24:18Speaker 1: working as a house servant for seven weeks. In the
- 24:23Speaker 1: summer of eighteen fifty, the entire family contracts smallpox. They
- 24:29Speaker 1: can't work for a while, and their finances they really suffer,
- 24:33Speaker 1: and Louisa she turns to writing as an escape, and
- 24:38Speaker 1: in September eighteen fifty one, eighteen year old Louisa may
- 24:43Speaker 1: Alcott publishes her first poem, Sunlight, and this is in
- 24:48Speaker 1: a women's magazine, and she aarned five all Dulls. The
- 24:53Speaker 1: following year, Nathaniel Hawthorne bought Hillside from the Alcotts, so
- 24:59Speaker 1: like they somehow ended up owning Hillside. I'm not sure how.
- 25:06Speaker 1: It's kind of convoluted, but yeah, so Hawthorne he ends
- 25:10Speaker 1: up buying it from them basically so they are not destitute.
- 25:15Speaker 1: So he saves the family from financial ruin, and so
- 25:19Speaker 1: they end up moving into a Nesser home in Boston.
- 25:22Speaker 1: And Louisa tried to write for money, and at nineteen
- 25:26Speaker 1: she starts writing pulp fiction Blood in the thunder Tales
- 25:32Speaker 1: as she calls them Blood in thunder Tales, under the
- 25:35Speaker 1: pseudonym A. M.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Barnard.
- 25:39Speaker 1: And when she's twenty one, she showed her memoir essay
- 25:44Speaker 1: how I Went Out to Service to James T Field,
- 25:48Speaker 1: who had published Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter four years before.
- 25:52Speaker 1: He rejected it, telling her sticky or teaching miss Alcott,
- 25:57Speaker 1: you can't write all right, buddy. Four months later, she
- 26:03Speaker 1: convinces another publisher to publish her first book, Flower Fables,
- 26:10Speaker 1: which is a collection of stories about fairies, elves and
- 26:14Speaker 1: stuff for like Emelson's Daughters. Sixteen hundred copies were published
- 26:20Speaker 1: and she earned a grand total of thirty five dollars.
- 26:25Speaker 1: The following year, the Alcott moved to New Hampshire and
- 26:28Speaker 1: Louisa stayed behind to write. When in New Hampshire, her
- 26:33Speaker 1: younger sister Lizzy contracts scarlet fever, but eventually she recovers.
- 26:41Speaker 1: When Louise's twenty four, her family returned to Concord because
- 26:45Speaker 1: Emelson bought them a two story farmhouse called Orchard House,
- 26:50Speaker 1: and everything seems to be going fine. But then the
- 26:53Speaker 1: following year, in eighteen fifty eight, Lizzie takes a turn
- 26:57Speaker 1: for the worse and the doctors say there's no hope
- 27:01Speaker 1: for her, which Lizzie is a clear inspiration for Beth
- 27:08Speaker 1: in Little Women.
- 27:10Speaker 2: Lizzie Beth like even the names are connected. The disease
- 27:16Speaker 2: ravages her body. Lizzie was wasting away and Louisa stayed
- 27:22Speaker 2: by her sister every single night until she finally succumbed
- 27:26Speaker 2: to her illness. In three weeks after.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Lizzie passed away, Louise's big sister Anna gets engaged and
- 27:38Speaker 1: Louisa writes that she is losing a second sister.
- 27:43Speaker 2: Like actually she does.
- 27:44Speaker 1: She goes another sister was gone, and I'd rather be
- 27:49Speaker 1: a free spinster and pedal my own canoe. Twenty six
- 27:54Speaker 1: year old Louisa returns to Boston. Changed by the loss,
- 27:59Speaker 1: she buckles down and goes back to work to support
- 28:01Speaker 1: her family. She teaches, she takes sewing work, and she writes.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Bronson tells her like her dad. He tells her to
- 28:10Speaker 1: send her work to the prestigious Atlantic Monthly, and Love
- 28:16Speaker 1: and Self Love is published. It's a love story about
- 28:20Speaker 1: an orphaned girl. And so she writes this like very
- 28:25Speaker 1: romantic love story, but she is still churning out these
- 28:28Speaker 1: blood and Thunder tells which pulp fiction.
- 28:32Speaker 2: It's so good. I love it so much.
- 28:34Speaker 1: So in eighteen sixty her family takes in the family
- 28:38Speaker 1: of an executed abolitionist, John Brown, who we've all been
- 28:43Speaker 1: discussing at a later date. So April eighteen sixty one,
- 28:49Speaker 1: it is the American Civil War, and Louisa she wanted
- 28:55Speaker 1: to fight, like she wanted to fight in the war,
- 28:59Speaker 1: but of she's a woman, she's not allowed. And the
- 29:04Speaker 1: following year, in eighteen sixty two, she applies to be
- 29:07Speaker 1: a Union Army NUS because of course it's the Union,
- 29:11Speaker 1: because she's not an idiot. In December that year, she
- 29:16Speaker 1: is in Fredericksburg, Virginia, and there was a crushing defeat
- 29:21Speaker 1: for the Union and hundreds of wounded Union soldiers are
- 29:25Speaker 1: pouring into the hospital, Like this is her first day
- 29:31Speaker 1: because the Battle of Fredericksburg, right, there's twelve thousand Union
- 29:35Speaker 1: casualties like in all, and so you've just got soldiers
- 29:39Speaker 1: like pouring into this hospital and she's like, she wanted
- 29:42Speaker 1: to be here, she wanted to be involved. And then
- 29:45Speaker 1: she's seeing first hand and like the one is the
- 29:50Speaker 1: thing is like what she's doing mainly is washing people.
- 29:55Speaker 1: It's a lot of washing. Like as a nurse, that
- 29:57Speaker 1: seems to be her primary task. That's her main task
- 30:02Speaker 1: is to wash the men. Obviously that's kind of necessary
- 30:06Speaker 1: but also.
- 30:07Speaker 2: K but yeah, unsurprisingly, being a nurse in the eighteen hundreds,
- 30:14Speaker 2: the job takes a physical toll on her.
- 30:17Speaker 1: She gets this cough, which leads to a delusional fever dreams,
- 30:21Speaker 1: which leads to pneumonia, which leads to typhoid fever, which I.
- 30:26Speaker 2: Read was treated with calamel like calamel motion calamel, Okay,
- 30:32Speaker 2: I need to look that up. So she recovers from typhoid,
- 30:37Speaker 2: but then she comes down with mercury poisoning, because that's
- 30:43Speaker 2: how they treated all the old timey like illnesses. They're like, here,
- 30:47Speaker 2: have some poison. Kay.
- 30:50Speaker 1: So after six weeks, she's sent back home. When she
- 30:55Speaker 1: gets back home, her publisher asks her to compile letters
- 30:58Speaker 1: that she wrote as a nurse into a book, and
- 31:02Speaker 1: she gets paid two hundred dollars for hospital sketches, which
- 31:08Speaker 1: errans her acclaim and more.
- 31:12Speaker 2: And publishers began to.
- 31:17Speaker 1: Seek out her writing, but she's still like really friendly
- 31:22Speaker 1: with her original publisher, and she gives her pet project
- 31:28Speaker 1: Moods to James Redpath, her publisher, and she is absolutely
- 31:33Speaker 1: distraught when he asks her to cut it in half,
- 31:37Speaker 1: and so she's like, no, this is my baby. I
- 31:39Speaker 1: put my blood into this, And so she brings it
- 31:42Speaker 1: to another publisher who also says it's too long, and
- 31:46Speaker 1: she removes ten out of the thirty chapters, and the
- 31:50Speaker 1: book it has mixed reviews. And at thirty three, a
- 32:00Speaker 1: wealthy Boston shipowner asks Louisa to travel to Europe as
- 32:05Speaker 1: the paid companion to his invalid daughter. So this is
- 32:09Speaker 1: like the Grand Tour. So the Grand Tour is when
- 32:12Speaker 1: rich people from America would go gallivanting around Europe, and
- 32:16Speaker 1: there were certain places they would go see. You know,
- 32:18Speaker 1: it was a very much a done thing. It was
- 32:21Speaker 1: like when you get to a certain agent society, it
- 32:25Speaker 1: was it was what you did. And so she goes
- 32:30Speaker 1: on it. And so she accompanies this woman to go
- 32:34Speaker 1: on this grand tour, and she has a swell time.
- 32:39Speaker 1: She really like learned from this experience and she has
- 32:42Speaker 1: just a really good time on all. But when she
- 32:45Speaker 1: returns home, she discovers that all of her family.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Bills are unpaid.
- 32:52Speaker 1: And so she spends the rest of the year writing
- 32:55Speaker 1: twelve news stories and she's tiled, and I mean know,
- 32:59Speaker 1: she's like so tired, like she literally collapses from exhaustion,
- 33:04Speaker 1: and she's just like so desperately trying to keep her
- 33:07Speaker 1: family above water. And when she's thirty five, Louisa is
- 33:13Speaker 1: offered the job of editor of Mary's Museum, a children's magazine,
- 33:20Speaker 1: which earns her five hundred dollars a year because editor
- 33:25Speaker 1: Thomas Niles he notices a gap in the market and
- 33:29Speaker 1: asks her to write a book for young girls, and
- 33:33Speaker 1: Louisa says no because she's not interested in writing moral
- 33:40Speaker 1: pep for the young. Like she didn't see herself as
- 33:44Speaker 1: a children's author, and she lived through like poverty, tragedy,
- 33:51Speaker 1: illness in war, and she just didn't want.
- 33:55Speaker 2: To do it.
- 33:57Speaker 1: However, Ronson, I'll call it to father.
- 34:03Speaker 2: He had a manuscript that he wanted published, and so
- 34:09Speaker 2: she agreed on the condition tablets, which is his manuscript,
- 34:15Speaker 2: would be published. This was his request. He was like,
- 34:19Speaker 2: if you know my manuscript to be published, if you
- 34:25Speaker 2: write yours, like, make that part of the deal. And
- 34:28Speaker 2: so she does.
- 34:31Speaker 1: She does that for this man. Anyway, skip forward to
- 34:36Speaker 1: February eighteen sixty nine and Louisa breaks down. She quits
- 34:42Speaker 1: her job and she moves to Concord to write a
- 34:45Speaker 1: book that she didn't want to write, and she writes.
- 34:51Speaker 1: She writes an ordinary coming of age novel about four
- 34:56Speaker 1: sistels growing into young women, a semi autobiographical and fairly
- 35:03Speaker 1: sanitized account of her own childhood in Concord, A little
- 35:08Speaker 1: bit you might know as little Women. Anna Alcott becomes
- 35:16Speaker 1: Meg March, Lizzie becomes Beth, and May becomes Amy.
- 35:25Speaker 2: Now Lizzie becomes Beth. That's the same name, but with
- 35:29Speaker 2: different nicknames.
- 35:31Speaker 1: Right, the alliteration for Meg March, you have.
- 35:36Speaker 2: May to Amy. They just rearranged the letters. She just
- 35:40Speaker 2: rearranged the letters.
- 35:41Speaker 1: It's an anagram, an anagram, and Joe, Joe is an
- 35:49Speaker 1: idealized version of herself. And mister March he is an
- 35:54Speaker 1: employed but absent chaplain like. He's like, she gave him
- 35:59Speaker 1: a way out, and there's a maid to do the housework,
- 36:07Speaker 1: and she's just like, and I it's yeah, it's what her.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Life could have been.
- 36:18Speaker 1: And so she sends the first twelve chapters.
- 36:22Speaker 2: To thumb Up Niles, and he calls it dull, and
- 36:29Speaker 2: Louisa agrees.
- 36:32Speaker 1: Then Niles shows it to his niece and she fucking
- 36:38Speaker 1: loves it. And so Louisa she pushes through illness, exhaustion,
- 36:46Speaker 1: and a never forming opium habit to finish the novel
- 36:53Speaker 1: two and a half months after starting it. She has
- 36:57Speaker 1: offered one thousand dollars flat fee or a three hundred
- 37:02Speaker 1: dollars advance and six percent royalties on each copy sold,
- 37:07Speaker 1: and on the thirtieenth of September eighteen sixty eight, Little
- 37:12Speaker 1: Women was published. It's an instant's success, selling out the
- 37:17Speaker 1: first printing of two thousand copies, and so she was
- 37:21Speaker 1: asked to write a second volume. Her readers begged her
- 37:26Speaker 1: for Joe and Laurie to marry, but she didn't believe
- 37:30Speaker 1: in marriage. The publisher had sold four thousand copies of
- 37:35Speaker 1: the second volume before it was finished. Like pre orders, man,
- 37:39Speaker 1: pre orders are important. In Part two was published on
- 37:44Speaker 1: April fourteenth, eighteen sixty nine, and by the end of
- 37:48Speaker 1: May seventeen thousand copies had been sold and she could
- 37:53Speaker 1: finally pay off her family's debt. The following year, in
- 38:03Speaker 1: eighteen seventy, she wrote Old Fashioned Girl, and it's a hit,
- 38:09Speaker 1: And so she treats her and her.
- 38:11Speaker 2: Sister made to a trip to Europe.
- 38:14Speaker 1: And this time when she goes, she's a celebrated author
- 38:19Speaker 1: and not a servant. So even though she got to
- 38:22Speaker 1: enjoy like Europe the first time she went, this time
- 38:26Speaker 1: she's going with agency, you know, with something behind her.
- 38:32Speaker 1: And it's on this tour that she discovers her brother
- 38:36Speaker 1: in law has passed away, and so she's inspired to
- 38:40Speaker 1: write a sequel for Anna's Sons, a sequel to.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Little Women, Little Men.
- 38:47Speaker 1: And so she continued traveling and writing until she was
- 38:51Speaker 1: too sick to enjoy her fame and fortune. In eighteen
- 38:57Speaker 1: seventy seven, she buys Anna a home, and she goes
- 39:00Speaker 1: to care for Abba, her mother, because she's like without
- 39:06Speaker 1: I mean, it's a period of time when you've got
- 39:09Speaker 1: men earning the money holding the purse strings, and Louisa
- 39:13Speaker 1: May Alcott is making money, and she's also on all
- 39:18Speaker 1: of the drugs, which she's been on like since the
- 39:22Speaker 1: Civil War really, and she is doing her best to
- 39:28Speaker 1: care for and protect her family, and so me she
- 39:32Speaker 1: makes sure that Anna has a roof over her head,
- 39:35Speaker 1: that she's safe and secure. And her mother, who Abigail
- 39:41Speaker 1: May who just consistently fought for her children to be
- 39:49Speaker 1: able to fucking eat, you know, and who was again
- 39:54Speaker 1: one of the first social workers in Massachusetts.
- 39:59Speaker 2: And so she's getting to that point in her life.
- 40:03Speaker 1: And in November, Abba dies in her daughter Louisa's arms,
- 40:11Speaker 1: and after this, Louisa is determined to do right by
- 40:15Speaker 1: her mother. In eighteen seventy nine.
- 40:20Speaker 2: Louisa May Alcott was the first woman in Concord to
- 40:23Speaker 2: register to vote, and she was an active believer and
- 40:29Speaker 2: was outspoken about women's suffrage and prison reform. Like she
- 40:34Speaker 2: has putting her money where her mouth is, and as
- 40:38Speaker 2: she's like continuing to campaign, more.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Tragedy strikes In December eighteen seventy nine, her youngest sister,
- 40:48Speaker 1: may dies from complications in childbirth, and Louisa she adopts
- 40:57Speaker 1: her niece Lulu Well. She's also taking.
- 41:00Speaker 2: Care of Bronzeon.
- 41:03Speaker 1: But Louisa she is getting sicker. She's got vertical fatigue,
- 41:09Speaker 1: she's got fainting spells and gastro intestinal issues, but she
- 41:14Speaker 1: is still writing. In eighteen eighty six, she publishes Joe's Boys,
- 41:20Speaker 1: the third volume in the March trilogy, and she mirrored
- 41:25Speaker 1: her life in Joe's Fame. And on the first of
- 41:31Speaker 1: March eighteen eighty eight, she visits her father for the
- 41:35Speaker 1: final time. On his deathbed, she says goodbye, and she
- 41:41Speaker 1: goes home and falls into a coma. On the fourth
- 41:47Speaker 1: of March, Bronson dies. And on the sixth of March
- 41:53Speaker 1: eighteen eighty eight, two days after her father, Louisa May
- 41:59Speaker 1: Alco passes away at the age of fifty five, and
- 42:05Speaker 1: father and daughter they are buried next to each other
- 42:08Speaker 1: in concords Sleepy Hollow Cemetery. Louisa she never married, She
- 42:16Speaker 1: never considered courting. She was never interested in anybody anywhere.
- 42:24Speaker 1: She knew the hows and whys and what for is,
- 42:26Speaker 1: but it was never anything that was interesting to her.
- 42:29Speaker 1: And so many historians believe that Louisa Malcott was asexual.
- 42:35Speaker 1: She was romantic perhaps in the above. Now, of course,
- 42:40Speaker 1: the argument can be made that she saw what her
- 42:44Speaker 1: mother went to living with her father and his idealism,
- 42:48Speaker 1: and how it created suffering in their family, and that
- 42:53Speaker 1: was not a life she wanted for herself.
- 42:56Speaker 2: So even though the done thing was.
- 42:58Speaker 1: To get married for safety, security, which is something he
- 43:02Speaker 1: wasn't providing, and so for her, the benefits weren't there.
- 43:08Speaker 1: So even for some people who are ace they would
- 43:11Speaker 1: marry any because it was the dune thing to do.
- 43:13Speaker 2: They just kind of, you know, go on with it.
- 43:18Speaker 2: But there's never an inkling of any of those sort
- 43:22Speaker 2: of feelings, any of those romantic connodations anywhere, and her
- 43:28Speaker 2: journals and her letters, none of it. And so that's
- 43:31Speaker 2: where I think Louisa Mayelcott stands. And if I'm wrong,
- 43:36Speaker 2: she can haunt me and tell me for why. So
- 43:41Speaker 2: that ends my story on Louise and Maylcott. Now, if
- 43:46Speaker 2: you were at the Red Line Literary Festival last year,
- 43:50Speaker 2: then you may have heard me tell the story, and
- 43:53Speaker 2: it was probably funnier. However, we can't find the recording.
- 43:59Speaker 2: They can't find it, I can't find it. We don't
- 44:01Speaker 2: know what's happened to it. And so here we are.
- 44:04Speaker 2: And I thought, I haven't talked about this before, and
- 44:07Speaker 2: I've had a very busy month with a lot of
- 44:10Speaker 2: personal stuff going on that I will tell you about
- 44:12Speaker 2: no time maybe. But if you liked this story, please
- 44:16Speaker 2: written review five stars. If you didn't like it, you
- 44:18Speaker 2: can just say nothing and do nothing. It's fine.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Although I finally checked my Spotify. My Spotify what's it called?
- 44:30Speaker 1: The thing on Spotify the.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Reviews write the comments right, which is I never I mean,
- 44:36Speaker 2: I don't look at them often because I'm usually too busy,
- 44:39Speaker 2: and it's connected to like a different email, it's a
- 44:41Speaker 2: whole thing. And so I looked at it and I
- 44:44Speaker 2: had these unread like comments.
- 44:47Speaker 1: And they're all from like January, right, and this one
- 44:50Speaker 1: person just commented on every single video, not video episode,
- 44:57Speaker 1: and it was like what And it was like really
- 45:01Speaker 1: mean stuff too, and it was like why are you
- 45:04Speaker 1: so obsessed with me?
- 45:07Speaker 2: And like I was good.
- 45:08Speaker 1: I think I deleted a couple of them, and then
- 45:10Speaker 1: I got bored and then.
- 45:11Speaker 2: I went and like.
- 45:14Speaker 1: Had a ferreh or washe or something because I was
- 45:16Speaker 1: feeling fancy.
- 45:18Speaker 2: And that's about it really. Also, I would like to
- 45:23Speaker 2: dedicate this episode to my drag queen loving friend and
- 45:28Speaker 2: know there's no drag queens in this episode. To Sahar, I.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Hope you're having a you're having like a super fun
- 45:36Speaker 1: time and that work isn't too stressful. So yeah, let's
- 45:39Speaker 1: see recommendation time. So I don't really drink alcohol much anymore,
- 45:48Speaker 1: for like a bunch of raisins that we'll talk about
- 45:49Speaker 1: at some point, but I do feel the need to
- 45:53Speaker 1: support creators, especially once who are really really cool, and
- 45:58Speaker 1: so I ended up buying Be a Better Drinker by
- 46:02Speaker 1: Hannah Chamberlain, and like there were so many like fun
- 46:09Speaker 1: like drinks in it, even though I don't really drink anymore,
- 46:12Speaker 1: so like some of them are like, oh, I could
- 46:13Speaker 1: make this a really nice mog taale because sometimes I
- 46:16Speaker 1: just want to drink something pretty okay.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Let me have my whimsy anesthetic. So that is my
- 46:20Speaker 2: reading recommendation for you this week.
- 46:23Speaker 1: When i'd recommend something by Louise and may Elcott, I
- 46:27Speaker 1: feel like that's a bit on the nose, don't you
- 46:30Speaker 1: for watching.
- 46:31Speaker 2: Go watch little Women. Actually like watch Belgian Greta Gerberg
- 46:36Speaker 2: went on a rider. Any of them, any of them.
- 46:38Speaker 2: There's another version from like the past, like a really
- 46:42Speaker 2: black and white one. I think, go watch that.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Go watch any of them.
- 46:46Speaker 2: It's fine, have a good time, and for listening. For listening.
- 46:52Speaker 2: You know what I've actually been enjoying recently was the
- 46:55Speaker 2: Cotton Club model, like nineteen eighties. I think it's nineteen eighties.
- 46:59Speaker 2: I was certain it was nineteen eighties. Oh, I've really
- 47:02Speaker 2: enjoyed this thing. I'm listening to. When's it set? And
- 47:04Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. I'm really bad with dates.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Clearly that's why I'm single, but also because like as
- 47:14Speaker 1: a historian, not being great at dates it is such
- 47:17Speaker 1: a wild thing, like really which is insane because I'll
- 47:20Speaker 1: remember very specific dates for very specific reasons. But then yeah,
- 47:25Speaker 1: I'm a disaster, a bi central disaster, if you will.
- 47:29Speaker 2: But anyway, thank you for listening. I look forward to
- 47:32Speaker 2: chatting to you about.
- 47:33Speaker 1: More LGBTQIA people from history next week, same bad time,
- 47:38Speaker 1: same bad channel, And so I shall wish you good night.
- 47:44Speaker 2: Adios.
- 47:45Speaker 1: Ah we my friends By