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Vekl & Brett Keane Talk Manipulators and Controlling Narcists · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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The. The.
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below. And folks, please no pressure,
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I will see you in the stream. Peace.
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Get ready. Get God.
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Welcome to another exciting episode of And Why not the most
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intelligent white N here on YouTube, where three chores
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around the house. So need something to listen to
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while you are at work? This is the place to come to.
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In this live stream. I take full advantage of my
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First Amendment right, my freedom of thought and speech.
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So all just if I don't violate the extremely silly guidelines
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of this current platform. This is episode #161 and today's
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date is July 6th, 2025. Yeah, baby, I ain't lying.
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I'm telling this trope. That's the trope.
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Baby, you got to believe me. You got to believe me.
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Listen to me, believe me later, but listen little bit of house
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cleaning before we open up the room, which I am going to do
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right away as promised on the side chat.
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So today's going to be just another basic open chat.
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But I do have a real real brief topic that I would like to touch
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on real quick before we just open up the room and make an
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open season up in this piece. So real quick, for those of you
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who are actual fans of the cartoon, because people ask me
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all the time, hey, when is episode #12 going to come out?
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Well, episode 12 is on the. Let me turn down the music a
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little bit. So, yeah, episode 12 is on in
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the works, folks, and I am. Well, all I can say is that I'm
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getting close to having it completed, but there's still a
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little bit of a lot of work to do.
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You have to understand, folks. OK, I understand that you're
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impatient because this is probably the one of the most
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popular cartoons ever made in human history.
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I understand that, but you got to you got to be patient, guys.
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OK, First of all, I'm a working man.
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Second of all, I'm a husband, OK?
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You know, Thirdly, I am a father.
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And fourthly, I own a house, so I don't have a maid.
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And there's a lot of stuff that needs to be done around the
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house and there's a lot of obligations and, you know, stuff
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like that that get in the way of, you know, production
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sometimes. And sometimes I like today, like
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right now, I just need a break, you know, some.
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So, you know, I just, sometimes you just get a little, you know,
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I, I, I get that the burnout kind of poking at me sometimes.
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And that's when my mind and my body tells me, OK, time to take
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a break from the cartoon because this is your baby.
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You don't want to be rushing through it.
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OK, take a little breather and then you could come back to it.
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Let me ask you. So I'm going to get you guys
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take on something real quick for those of you who play video
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games and man I want to get back into video games so bad.
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You have no idea. Gosh, I want to.
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I'm feeling man. Y'all got to pray for me man I'm
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hurting. I'm hurting man.
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I got I like 5 games I haven't even touched in five years yet
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because I'm trying to finish this project man.
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So once I'm done with this project man, I'm cutting all you
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guys off. You ain't going to hear from me
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for five months and then if next time you see me on camera, I'm
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going to be fat. I'm going to look like, you
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know, certain other people, you know, in this community.
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So anyway. Anyway, anyway.
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Anyway. So we ain't saying no names.
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But anyway, yeah, the episode is on the way.
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All I can say is that I'm working on it.
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Every moment I get an opportunity or every moment I
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get in at the energy. Oh, back to my video game
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analogy for those who play video games, right.
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You ever play a game and you're just, you're just cracking down
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on it, man. You're doing really, really
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good, right? You're spending hours on it.
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You get to a point where you just can't figure it out.
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Like like some sort of puzzle or some sort of maze and you spend
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a good, you know, you know, maybe 25 to 30 minutes trying to
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figure it out. You can't figure it out.
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What the heck's going on, man? Should be this hard.
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So, you know, you then take a break, leave it alone.
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Yeah. And it could be anything,
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whether it's a puzzle or a, a, a boss that you're fighting.
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You just can't get past this one part of the game.
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You take a little break, you know, you go do something else.
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And then maybe a few hours later, you go back to the safe
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point that you were at, fighting the same boss, doing the same
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puzzle. And then all of a sudden it just
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seems so incredibly easy, like like you never had a problem
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with it and to begin with and you're sitting there saying to
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yourself, now wait a minute, what did I do that was so
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different? Why did it take me hours to try
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to figure out how to beat this boss like three hours ago?
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I step away and I come back and I bam, 123, bam, I beat the guy
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with no with with very little effort.
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And I think that's what it is. It's just sometimes our minds
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just need a break from whatever it is that we're fully focusing
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on, you know, at that moment. We just need to take a break,
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take a break, take a breather, get something to drink, you
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know, pray, you know, go outside a little bit, touch some grass a
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little bit, you know, spend some time with family, talk to people
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and then come back and, and do what you were doing before.
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And then it's amazing how smoother, how much smoother
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things seem to be when, you know, previously it just seemed
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like you were never going to, you know, get over that
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obstacle. And so that's what I'm kind of
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sensing with the cartoon. I don't want to get to that
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point where I feel like it's just, you know, crazy, crazy.
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So anyway, I don't want to do that with this cartoon.
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This is the final episode. And I know there's a lot of
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imperfections that people are probably going to notice.
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I've noticed a lot already and trust me, I would like to go
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back and redo a man, but listen, man, it's going on six years
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with this one episode, man. I'm ready to just just just to
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shut it down, man. But I'm not going to rush it
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though either. So I'm I'm ready to to shut it
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down. And again, I'm the only person
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working on it, like literally the only person working on it.
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So you know, any type of criticism, I will accept it, but
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you know, can you can you soften it a little bit?
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No, just kidding, just kidding about.
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So I will definitely keep you guys posted for the string, the
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streaming of the premiere. I'm still considering whether or
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not I want to show this on the big screen.
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I would love to see it on the big screen.
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But again, as I mentioned before, I think it'll be a waste
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of money for me to have it on the big screen with a bunch of
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people who are only going to be there for spiritual and
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emotional support but are not actual fans of the series.
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So if you are true fan of the series, that event would be for
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people like you. And again, I'm not offended that
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people are not fans of my cartoon, that they don't follow
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stuff. You know, I'm happy that people
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are willing to just support me emotionally.
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I'm happy with that too. But to me, it's just a waste of
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money. You have $300.00 for one night,
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have all this food and stuff like that for people to come in
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and they don't even know who the characters are.
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They don't know what happened prior to the one thing that
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they're watching. So I'm going to have to ask
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people to do their homework before they come watch the
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episode and stuff like, no, no, I don't want to go through that.
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So I've I've kind of made my decision that I'm leaning more
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towards not doing the actual physical low, you know,
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theatrical release and just sticking with the good old
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fashioned YouTube stream premiere stuff like and that.
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And then after that, maybe I'll open up the room for Q&A, you
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know, criticism talk. We maybe we could talk a little
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bit about the beloveds and annoyance, you know, maybe they
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have some connection. You know, real quick before I
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move on to my next segment, somebody, somebody asked me a
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while back, they say, Hey, Vecco, you know, maybe you
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should do a little scene where you should put some free gracers
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in the in the episode. And then I said, actually, I
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already put free graces in the episode.
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And then I, and then he said, oh, where I didn't see it.
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I said, they're the ones that took the mark of the beast.
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Oh, so anyway, so just a little joke there.
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Ha ha ha ha. Anyway, so without further ado,
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let me just do a quick a couple of quick shout outs on the side
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chats. All right, get this off the
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screen here and we're going to say hello to everybody who is
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commenting or has left a comment on the side chat.
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So I think one of the first people to show up was Brett.
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Brett, you are 100% accurate and referring to me as handsome.
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OK. I really, really appreciate
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that. I just need you to somehow in
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some way, shape or form, you know, find a way to convince my
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wife of that label that I deserve.
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Who else? We got here on the side chat.
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OK, we got Miss Smokey. What's happening?
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See, she just made a recent trip to California and she's nice and
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safe. So we appreciate that.
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And congratulations again on your union with Mr. Smokey.
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And may you, May God bless you guys tremendously and
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overwhelmingly with that blessed marriage and and bless you with
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a quiver full of children, if that be his will.
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All right. And who else we got here.
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We got Brother Ryan in the house.
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What's happening? Babies, Bruce.
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And as usual, stayed gone for no longer than 5 seconds.
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How are you all this evening? Yeah, we're doing great.
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Doing great and we got St. Gotham.
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See now St. Gotham, you're 1 of you're one
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of the, the, the people I'm I actually think of when I when I
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talk about actual fans of the karts film, because you're one
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of the people who's always asking me about the the next
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episode. So I really, really appreciate
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your your words of encouragement and impatience as well, man.
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So I appreciate that. So trust me, man, you'll be one
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of the first people I'll be thinking of when when the
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episode is near to release. So who else we got?
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We got Jamie Russell. Jamie, you got some splain in
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the door. You got some splain in the door.
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I heard what you said. I heard what you said about us
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that believe in ECT eternal conscious torment.
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So we got you got some splain in the door.
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OK, see, Smokey says Voke has Vecco has been black since
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twice. Yeah.
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Yeah. Some people actually say that,
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you know, some actually, some people that actually might,
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might actually assert that, you know, ever since that blast that
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Trump came down those golden escalators, he ruined my life.
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He ruined my life and took my black card.
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But anyway, we'll talk about that maybe later on tonight's
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stream or another time in the future.
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We got Ben, Ben to the house. What's going on, baby?
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What's happening? I love you, baby.
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You know, you know, I was taking a peek at the at the beloved
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stream earlier today in talking again, once again whining and
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complaining about the smokes and the and the Ryan's and everyone
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else that frequents channels like this.
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And he named the channel after you, talking about you again, as
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we've constantly see done all the time.
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It's almost to the point where talking about us, talking about
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Smokey Ryan and Dave and Veckel and Ben, that's almost
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equivalent to the importance of the gospel to these guys, man,
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because they just cannot keep our names out of their mouths.
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My goodness. No wonder their streams are so
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short. But anyway, Ben, to screw those
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guys, you're always welcome here, man.
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I love you to death, man. Listen, we've bumped heads
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before in the past, you know, regarding my soteriology, your
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soteriology. But man, I see in you a real
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sincerity. And you, just like the rest of
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us, are flawed. And this is one of the essence.
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This is the essence of the importance of a church body is
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to encourage one another, you know, spice it up with a little
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bit of admonition there too, you know, But admonition doesn't
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mean that doesn't mean hatred, OK?
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Does it mean a propaganda for hatred towards someone?
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It just means biblical correction, that's all.
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OK. And so whatever, man.
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So we, we, we love you, Ben. We love you.
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That's all I got to say, man. So I appreciate you, man.
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Ryan says my offer to debate you, Jamie, on and miss
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historianism or your recent claims that all ECT believers
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worship are false. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Jamie, you got some splainin. I do.
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You got some splainin. I do.
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OK. Who else we got here?
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Janet. Janet, that Reg.
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Everybody take it to the house. What's going on?
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All right. Now, Janet, I love playing with
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these sounds. I know I'm a child.
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I'm a child. But Janet, we love you, man.
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Ma'am. Ma'am, I want to get your
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pronouns right. We love you.
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We see all that sugar smack talk about you over there in the land
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of the beloveds, but we love you over here, so you're always
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welcome here. And Janet doesn't agree with my
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soteriology, but you know what? She's polite to me.
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She gives me words of encouragement and I appreciate
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it. Same thing with Smokey.
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Smokey and I are kind of like those, those kind of like
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brothers is always bumping heads with each other.
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We argue and yell at each other. But then at the end of the day,
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it's all good, man, you know, And I, I think all Christians
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ought to be like that, man. We sometimes we just going to
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bump heads. We're going to fight, we're
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going to raise our voices at each other, you know, and maybe
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in person we wrestle and stuff. But then at the end of the day,
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it's Ephesians 426 type of thing where we just like not let the
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sun go down in our wrath. And you say, all right, man,
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I'll talk to you later, man. All right, peace, man, Love you,
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man. Get out of my face.
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Bye, bye. And then we go on our merry way.
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It's rather unfortunate that some people in this community,
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it's rather let me say that again, it's rather unfortunate
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that some people in this community cannot have that type
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of relationship with the rest of us.
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So I don't know because the rest of us are doomed to hell because
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we don't say the words free grace in a certain way.
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I guess I don't know, maybe that maybe there's too many syllables
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for those of us who disagree. I don't know what's going on.
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Brett says Vekl, you should play Elder Scrolls Online with me.
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Looks great and fun. Dude.
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I'm afraid to play any online games because I have an
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addictive personality and I'm going to tell you something
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right now. Some of these games I haven't
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even touched in five years. I'm, I'm scared that the, I'm
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looking at possible divorce bait here.
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So This is why I never got onto games like Wow, like World,
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World of Warcraft, or any game that just never ends and it just
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keeps getting updates and packages or whatever you call
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it. Those games I stay away from
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because I know I will never ever get off of those games.
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I'll get fat, OK, my health will decline.
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OK, my marriage will be on the rocks.
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I'll be constantly arguing about having to take the trash out all
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the time. You know, I know me, man.
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I, you know, and you know, so I, I gotta, I gotta stand clear of
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stuff like that. But you know, again, I'm not
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saying that those who have this lifestyle are a bunch of losers
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and not saved or anything like that.
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I'm just saying for me personally, this is where God
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has put me. These are the cards that have
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been dealt. So this is I'm trying to be a
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responsible, responsible person and just say, Hey, put, put a
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certain set of limits for myself.
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So that's why I choose to get games that are really, really
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super fun, but have an end. And then I, you know, if the
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Lord wills, I go back and play them again later on, which I
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want to do so bad right now. I got Metal Gear Solid, Metal
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Gear Solid, sick Snake Eater. I got the the latest Metal Gear
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Solid that came out for the PS-5.
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My goodness, what a great game that is.
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It's an old game, but it's it's an awesome game.
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And I just recently down downloaded steam, man, whole ton
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of games there that I want to play so bad, man.
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You guys got to pray for me. Man ain't playing, man ain't
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playing. This ain't no, it's not a game,
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man. It's not a game.
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Y'all got to pray for me. Y'all over there laughing.
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Brad, I see you over there laughing.
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Brett, you need to stop that laughing.
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Stop making fun of me. Stop making fun of me, Brett.
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I don't appreciate that. Yeah anyway, all right, here we
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go. So we got everybody else.
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Let's go on ahead. And I think I'm going to open up
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the room right now. But again, first, my priority
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right now for this stream is to 1st cover this, this, what do
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you call it? This posting from Brett, because
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I think it's kind of relevant to the let me get rid of the
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overlay here. I think it's relevant to, you
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know, what's going on in this community today and stuff like
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that. So again, many of you that are
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listening to me right now, some of you have been accused of
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being an enabler or an endorser of this behavior, that behavior
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because of certain individuals that we even talk to, let alone,
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I mean, we don't even have to just we don't even have to agree
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with everything that they believe.
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Just being in their presence equals fellowship, sincere
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corporate fellowship. We're worshiping the Christ.
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We're worshiping. We're dropping the true, the one
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true God and worshiping the false God.
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Why? Because we just happened to make
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an appearance in somebody's stream or we gave somebody a
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wrench. OK, So if I, for example, you
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know, you guys know about my stream maybe a month or two ago,
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all hell broke loose the moment I gave Smokey St. a wrench.
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And then next thing I know, I'm a pedophile enabler.
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I'm a pedophile endorser. You know, we had that one guy
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Jarrett, not Jarrett SoC, but the other Jarrett TK.
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We had Mac and cheese at one point.
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And also that guy opening the scroll, AKA James.
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I mean, those guys was, you know, sending me private
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messages on, on on Discord, you know, just just trying to
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dismount to me saying you got bro, I can't, I can't, I can't
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hang out with you no more, blah, blah, blah.
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You know, next thing I was being ridiculed by some of these guys,
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you know, all because I gave Smokey wrench.
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That's it. You don't even have to hear me
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say, Oh yeah, I love touching children.
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You don't even have to hear me say, Oh yeah, I believe you can
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lose your salvation or anything of those things, any, anything
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of that sort just by me giving somebody a wrench 'cause my
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'cause people to raise question about my salvific status.
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Isn't that amazing? And he's coming from these
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self-righteous man. I wish I could think of some
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other adjectives for some of these individuals, man, because
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they actually deserve it, man. They're, they're a bunch of
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number one thing for certain, man.
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We can, we know that we could definitely label some of these
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individuals as hypocrites, man. And maybe today with you guys
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help you guys who want to come in and get bored out of your
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minds. Maybe you guys could come in and
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have a little bit of fun today on this Sunday evening, you're
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bored, you have nothing else better to do or you got
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something you want to get off your chest.
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Maybe you could come in and maybe one of the things that you
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want to talk about is the hypocrisy coming from some of
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these dummies. So but anyway, before we get to
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that part, let's go on ahead and focus on this posting from
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Brett. I'm going to post the link right
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now with hopes that Brett will be one of the first to come in.
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Guys, excuse the noise that's in the background.
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That is my daughter watching some wacky videos again.
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So, but don't you fret, she is right next to me.
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I can see what she's watching. I can hear what she's listening
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to. So my parenting skills are on
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point. Anyway, there is the link.
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The link is posted. Come on in, folks, come on in.
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Come on in, come on in. If you do, welcome Bretz.
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You know this by being here. You just officially have lost
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your salvation by entering this room, right?
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You sound like you're far away from the mic.
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That's OK. That's good.
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That's good. I'll give you some time.
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We Hey, we got Erica now. Erica, you got the ER at the end
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of your name. Is that how you really pronounce
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your name or you making fun of a certain somebody in the
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community? Ha ha.
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Hey, do you hear? Me better now, Beck.
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Ah yes, crisp, crisp being clean.
28:42
Yeah man. OK, so since you're the one who
28:46
wrote this post, I just want to say the reason why I'm sharing
28:50
this post is because I so agree with this.
28:54
This is so relevant to what I was just talking about a few
28:56
minutes ago, about me being condemned and having my salvific
28:59
status questioned because I because of I gave somebody a, a,
29:03
a a wrench on my side chat, you know, or because I've pop up
29:07
into the room seeking, you know, decent conversation with
29:12
somebody where as opposed to other locations where I'm
29:16
blocked, I'm perma Ben, you know, I can't talk to anybody.
29:19
I can't say what I want without the fear of walking on egg
29:22
shells in those other environments.
29:24
So at least I can talk to guys like Smokey or Dave, you know,
29:27
at least we can come to moments where I can raise my voice.
29:30
They can raise their voice at me.
29:31
Things could get a little heated and passionate every once in a
29:34
while. And yet we part ways on a
29:36
positive note, you know, so at least we have that, but we don't
29:40
have that with these other, you know, hold on, I'm ranting.
29:42
Sorry about that. Brett, go ahead.
29:45
No, I'm listening to you. I fully agree.
29:48
And what's really sad is I've been around so long, I can tell
29:52
you hundreds of times where I seen where people had these
29:55
attitudes where, oh, if you hang with this person, you're a Dick
29:59
and you don't have to hang with me.
30:00
And then a year later or some time goes by and everybody
30:04
becomes buddies again. And you can't ever keep up with
30:07
the culture on it. You can't, you can't keep up
30:10
with the trends. So it's best just for us to be
30:12
who we are and enjoy life as it is.
30:16
Amen to that. Amen to that.
30:19
So anyway, with that said, either you can read what would
30:24
you like reading this post, just in case we have people who might
30:27
be listening but can't look at the screen right now for
30:30
whatever reason. I I won't be able to because I
30:33
enjoy your voice. I specifically came here to hear
30:36
your awesome radio voice. Ah man, well, I know one guy's
30:41
got a way better of actually you'll have an awesome radio
30:44
voice. So and I think Smokey has an
30:47
awesome radio presence, but I think the best radio voice in my
30:51
opinion is probably that guy EXO.
30:52
He's a little little on the weird side, but he does have a
30:57
radio, a good radio presence and voice.
31:00
I've. Been told I've got a nice face
31:01
for radio too. Yeah, my wife, yeah.
31:07
Yeah, my wife seems to think the same for me too, anyway.
31:11
Anyway, anyway, so let me just go on ahead and read this post
31:15
here. So I'm going to read it from the
31:17
outside. It says people ask me why I'm
31:19
cool with Kent Hovind and youtubers like Smokey and Miss
31:22
Smokey. Also, Ryan, here's my reasoning
31:24
and you're welcome to refute me if you feel you must.
31:27
I won't take it personally. Read below #1 Keep in mind the
31:30
president I voted for every time has been accused of everything
31:34
and and because I voted him, this makes me a Nazi according
31:39
to some of you. Hold on, somebody just popped
31:41
in. Welcome Ryan, welcome to the
31:43
room. Good evening gentlemen.
31:46
How are either of you? I'm doing good.
31:48
I'm going to continue reading on this post here from Brett.
31:51
So anyway he says #2 There was a Jewish guy 2000 years ago who
31:55
was crucified and did nothing wrong.
31:57
Turned out he is God so death didn't stick #3.
32:01
The users who attacked Smokey are known to use various AI
32:04
software to create videos of Youtubers saying and doing
32:07
things they never actually did. We all know this is a fact.
32:11
Yep #4 but TTOR 13 who is your good friend?
32:17
Oh, so he's called people. But TTR who is your good friend?
32:21
Believe smoking and Kent Hovan or filthy.
32:23
TTR is the kind of friend who can love you even if he
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disagrees with you. It's called being a Christian.
32:29
Hello #5 but Brad TTOR debated Smokey and Smokey looked beaten.
32:36
But First off it wasn't a debate.
32:38
TTOR used what he thought was truthful information when he
32:41
questioned Smokey. I personally saw the show as
32:44
questioning one's character, not an actual debate.
32:46
However, TTOR does believe the info on Smokey is still correct.
32:52
Number six. But Brad Smokey, Smokey said me
32:59
things about you. Well, how can you say all this?
33:02
People say crap about me daily. Doesn't mean I'm going to frame
33:06
and destroyed someone's life unless threatened #7 but Kent
33:11
Hovind is friends with bad people who did bad stuff.
33:15
And Ken Holman is great at evolution.
33:18
But when it comes to friends, he has that habit, as does Donald
33:21
Trump of thinking everyone is his buddy until they are not.
33:24
Sadly, Kent depends on crappy people to work his Internet and
33:29
tech. Without them he wouldn't know
33:31
how to turn on APC. Not a justification, just a fact
33:35
#8 if I and all these other users did half the crap we're
33:40
accused of, we would be on death row right now, not babbling on
33:44
YouTube live streams. So unless I'm giving hard
33:47
evidence, I will remain friendly and neutral.
33:50
Oh naughty naughty Brett, naughty naughty #9 Well what
33:56
about Miss Smokey? She says to me things that she
34:00
was defending her man. I would be disappointed if she
34:04
didn't. Wives are supposed to be loyal.
34:05
Oh, there you go #10 Guys like Veckel and I, oh wait, that's
34:10
not OK. Guys like Veckel and I are
34:12
adults. We go where we please unless you
34:15
offer to pay our bills. My PayPal link is in my
34:18
description. Cash app include all right and
34:22
#11 finally #11 mean things were said about kids.
34:26
Sure. For 20 years, Christians and
34:28
atheists took up a dump. Took a dump on my entire family.
34:31
I don't want call getting any mercy or a Christmas card from
34:34
any of you. Do I like do like I do don't
34:38
talk about things that can later hurt you.
34:41
This is the Internet, not a group therapy session.
34:45
OK then below for those of you who are not looking on your
34:47
screens. It's got a picture of Trump, and
34:52
it says it's it's got the words here.
34:56
I still don't understand how the man who had never served in
34:59
public office before being elected president is blamed for
35:03
all of America's problems by people who have been in Congress
35:06
since the 1970s. Yeah.
35:08
Amen to that. So, ladies and gentlemen, that
35:12
was Brett's post. How long?
35:16
Yeah. But according to this, you
35:18
posted it 35 minutes ago And Brett, any comment real quick or
35:23
anybody have any comments? Well, you get people who are,
35:27
you know how to cycle, where people be all over you.
35:29
And I figured I'd nip that in the butt and just go ahead and
35:33
put it out there. My views aren't it.
35:35
And as you can see, right at the very top, I said if anybody
35:38
thinks I'm wrong, you know, have at it, go ahead and try to
35:41
refute me. You know, this goes back to, oh,
35:45
go ahead, Ryan, Go ahead. Oh, OK, so I see my spastic card
35:50
is worth less than your black card.
35:56
Go ahead, Ryan. Largely.
36:00
I largely agree with Brett because I'm at the point now
36:03
where I pretty much do the same way.
36:07
I've been dealing with this crap from certain people on YouTube
36:09
for nearly a decade. Others longer.
36:12
And. I.
36:14
Don't. See people?
36:15
Lining up to pay my bills I don't see people lining up to
36:19
tell you know say, oh, you know you're a screen yard
36:23
subscription is paid for I don't even have one so I really don't
36:27
care I'm a grown man I pay all my own bills I.
36:31
Work for a living. And why should I care about
36:35
them? Something like that.
36:36
Well, Smokey. 'S.
36:38
I'm not part of the Cone Club go.
36:41
Why is this my problem? I like going to Smokey's panel.
36:45
Why can't I go to Smokey's panel, right?
36:50
And again, it brings me back to issues like I talked about this
36:53
a few streams back about the word fellowship.
36:57
We got the guy Tucker 1611. To me, he seems sincere or maybe
37:03
I'm just fooled by by it. But I mean, he is so wrong on a
37:07
lot of things. And one of them is this issue of
37:09
the word debates and also the issue of the word fellowship.
37:13
Well, at least I would disagree with this definition of
37:15
fellowship. But he's definitely wrong on the
37:17
issue of the word debate. And this is what you would get
37:20
from the King James only is there because that's the only
37:23
translation that they go to. And they see that the word
37:26
debate is spoken in a in a negative fashion.
37:30
But these are the also the same people who refuse to look up
37:33
these words in the Greek to see what the actual word means.
37:38
And so they just, they just stuck in their ways and, and
37:40
then go around debating people, telling people that it's wrong
37:44
to debate. You know, it's, it's amazing how
37:46
these people say it's wrong to debate, but yet they're going
37:48
around debating it or whether or not they should be debating, you
37:51
know, so, and the same thing with the word fellowship.
37:54
You know, if I go to Praise's channel tonight, let's say, and
38:00
he he's opening up a room for people to challenge his views,
38:03
That's me going over there to have a discussion on our
38:07
differences or to challenge his his beliefs.
38:10
That's not me fellowshipping with the guy.
38:12
OK, let's say it starts off with me going over there to challenge
38:16
him and then an hour later, you know, I just choose to stick
38:20
around and just, you know, hang out and talk.
38:24
Is that fellowship? Well, I don't call that
38:26
fellowship. I call that hanging out because
38:28
that's exactly what I would do with an atheist or an other non
38:31
believer. You know, I see them in a coffee
38:33
shop, they talking about things and I, hey, I like what they're
38:36
talking about. I want to be a part of this
38:38
conversation. Is that fellowship in the
38:39
corporate biblical sense? No, go ahead.
38:43
No. Let's also face it that people
38:46
make it out like it's bad to fellowship with people.
38:49
Christ tells us to make friends with the mammon of this world.
38:53
That ostensibly means Jesus commands me to make friends,
38:56
fellowship with people who diametrically disagree with my
39:00
worldview. That means making friends with
39:03
people who may or may not believe in Jesus Christ at all.
39:08
Does that mean I'm guilty for fellowshipping with them?
39:11
Well, according to Jesus, no, I don't understand all this King
39:14
James, only narrow mindedness that oh, how dare you fellowship
39:20
with this person. And again, you can tell these
39:23
people this all the time, but they don't get it.
39:26
Debate in Romans one in the King James Version in 1611 meant
39:30
strife. That's right.
39:34
It meant quarrelsome. It meant strife.
39:36
It has nothing to do with academic discussions of
39:39
divergent points. Exactly.
39:43
My, my view is, is that I know that a lot of these people who
39:47
are in opposition, they see it as a religious issue.
39:51
Me, I see it as middle school. Oh, you want to play with that
39:55
person in the sandbox? Well, you don't get to be around
39:58
me. You're grout.
39:59
That's that's how I see it. I don't see it as just a
40:02
religious issue. I just see it as a bunch of
40:04
dumbasses who want to manipulate and control and that's it.
40:09
That's exactly what I see and it seems like it is some sort of
40:14
religion to these guys. You know, I mean, you like like
40:16
I'm I don't care. I'm going to just call his name
40:18
out. I'm not going to be, you know,
40:19
subliminal about it. Bill, you know, Bill of GNG
40:23
streaming this. This is the first guy that comes
40:26
to my mind when I think about this type of attitude of this
40:30
cultic tribalistic attitude, because he makes it so he just
40:34
puts it out there about this list that he's going to put out
40:37
there. He's talking about who people's
40:39
which people's going to be perma bland, perma banned on his
40:42
channel, you know, and I know I'm one of them because I tried
40:44
to leave a comment on the side chart earlier in stream today
40:48
and obviously what do you know, didn't pop up.
40:50
So that's fine, you know, and for what reason have I falsely
40:54
accused the guy? No, he's just mad because I hang
40:56
out with certain people, you know, Ryan included, and
40:59
smoking, you know, or maybe Ben, you know, makes an appearance in
41:04
some of my streams every once in a while, or I make an appearance
41:07
in other people's streams, you know, it's it's just so
41:10
childish. It's it's you know, I don't
41:12
even, I don't deny it's, it's very cult.
41:15
Yeah. No, go ahead.
41:16
I was just going to say quickly. It's very cult like.
41:19
Yeah. You disagree with him and you're
41:21
going straight to hell because like I have on my channel, Bill
41:25
Cuthbert thinks he is the church and he associates with people
41:29
like the dude who share his opinions that if you're not a
41:32
free gracer, you're a devil, or I am the grace of God, I can
41:37
throw you into hell. I, I myself, I've had very
41:42
little interaction with the Bill character, but I did find that
41:46
kind of telling if that would be the right word to say it.
41:50
This guy never tried to talk to me any other time, but me and
41:54
Smokey had a, a, a back and forth about the whole mouth,
41:58
something that I fell into a long time ago.
42:01
There was a bit of argument, disagreement.
42:04
So immediately upon that, when Bill sees that me and him have a
42:07
falling out in that moment, he comes to me.
42:10
All of a sudden he's interested in Brett Keene.
42:12
He wants to have Brett Keene on the show and shit.
42:14
Well, I get over there and I'm like, OK, what?
42:17
What do you need there, Sir? I didn't know who he was.
42:20
Like what? Give me a link for what do you
42:23
want? And he goes into all the stuff
42:25
and two things already. Right off the bat, he wanted to
42:28
talk about Smokey for almost 2 hours.
42:31
Getting boiled in the. 1st 15 Then the second problem was is I
42:35
couldn't make out 90% of what he's saying.
42:39
Because of his heart accent. I'm heavy.
42:41
Yeah. Some of you out there, you're
42:43
like fucking translators or something.
42:45
Me, I'm like what the fuck is he talking about?
42:48
Right. I'm right there with you.
42:49
I got to be honest, that's probably what he wants is my
42:52
heat and I have so much beef is because of my misunderstanding
42:55
of what he's actually saying. Well, the other thing is no, no
42:59
British person speaks the way Bill does because it's a
43:02
bastardized, drunk amalgamation of contemporary English and his
43:08
interpretation of Elizabethan English probably tweaks to
43:11
beloved. Nobody talks like that.
43:16
Well, I, I just couldn't hike him out 90% of it.
43:19
He had another YouTube there and then I think thick shades ended
43:23
up coming in the whole, the usual group comes in and they're
43:27
just wanting to talk about that the whole time.
43:28
And I said, look, Smokey's pissed off at me about a mouthy
43:32
is in a theological position and I have no issue arguing with
43:36
them about it. But I'm not going to sit here
43:38
for two hours and listen to a bunch of, you know, hate this,
43:41
hate that, don't like him, blah blah blah.
43:43
That's your fucking problem, not mine.
43:45
And boy, they seem to get annoyed with me on that.
43:48
They seem like they really wanted to get me over and I
43:51
guess what they consider their team.
43:55
You know, Miss Smokey says it's called Smokey Derangement
43:59
Syndrome. I kind of like that SDS.
44:05
That's right. Maybe maybe we should call that
44:07
you know, but we definitely you probably going to hear a little
44:10
bit that used a little bit in in the community in the coming
44:14
days, I'm sure. But yeah, no, I.
44:16
I like it because I've watched people.
44:18
We can have normal conversations and then the first syllable of
44:23
Smokey is uttered. They.
44:24
Turn into these rabid wild beasts.
44:27
What the hell is this? Yeah, Ben said that.
44:32
All I said was I don't like his BIM slash Jabnet videos because
44:37
Stefan and Jabnet come to my channel.
44:39
See? There it is again.
44:39
See, I don't, you know, Ben kind of speaks his mind and no matter
44:45
who you are, if he sees that you're saying something or doing
44:48
something that he believes to be unbiblical, he's going to, you
44:52
know, he's going to dress you with it, right?
44:54
Ben has had run insurance with everyone, including myself,
44:58
including Dave, including smoker You OK?
45:01
And sometimes with Bob and sometimes with, you know, with
45:04
everyone. OK, But you know, here we are.
45:09
I don't have any ongoing beef with Ben, but apparently Ben is
45:15
allowing certain individuals in his room and this guy is a child
45:19
of Satan because of it. Like, that's a cult.
45:23
That's a cult like mentality, man.
45:26
And that tells me once again, I've said this out loud, I'll
45:28
say it again here, a person who has this type of mindset about
45:32
this tribalistic mindset, they are not concerned about
45:35
individuals getting the truth out of the word of God.
45:38
They are only concerned about an allegiance to themselves.
45:41
That's what they care about. And this reminds me, I want to
45:44
read this verse real quick. These are few passages here,
45:48
Luke chapter 5, starting at verse 27.
45:52
This is Jesus hanging out with a couple of people who are doing a
45:55
couple of noise and maybe they're not the noise, at least
46:00
not yet. And it's Luke chapter 5, verse
46:03
27 says. And after these things, he went
46:05
forth and saw a publican named Levi sitting at the receipt of
46:09
the custom. And then he said, follow me.
46:12
And he left all rows up and follow.
46:14
And Levi verse 29, Levi made him a great feast in his own house.
46:18
And there was a great company of publicans and of others that sat
46:21
down with the publicans. For those of you who don't know,
46:24
it's tax collectors basically. Verse 30, but their scribes and
46:27
Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, why do you
46:31
eat and drink with publicans and sinners?
46:34
Verse 31 and Jesus answering said unto them, they that are
46:37
wholly not a physician, but they that are sick.
46:42
And finally verse 32, I came not to call the righteous, but
46:45
sinners to repentance. Let me stop right there.
46:48
Let me ask you guys a question. When Jesus said these exact
46:52
words to the scribes and Pharisees, did he pull them
46:56
aside and say this, say this in private and whisper this to
47:00
them? Or did he say this out loud in
47:02
front of you? What do you guys just think?
47:04
What do you guys think? Oh Vecco, we have to have a
47:07
secret. Emergency hanger anoint so I can
47:11
probably condemn you to. Hell.
47:13
And then? Recalled.
47:14
Everything you're saying. Right, right, right.
47:21
What what do you think, Brett? Do you think?
47:24
Do you come away with this passage, Jesus pulling these
47:28
guys aside and then say, yeah, hey, hey, let me, let me
47:32
highlight you for a minute. Yeah.
47:33
These guys I'm hanging out with, I'm not really done with them.
47:36
You know, I'm just here to kind of save them.
47:38
Or is he saying this out loud in front of them and they can hear
47:42
them? What do you think?
47:44
I, I believe that Jesus perceives humanity as his
47:48
children. And no matter how a child acts,
47:52
a parent who truly loves their kids, they're going to, they're
47:55
going to try to do the best they can to help out the ones that
47:59
are definitely really in need of attention, if that makes sense.
48:06
Yeah, so, so in other words, you're saying that he's not
48:10
pulling the the scribes and Pharisees aside to say verse 32
48:15
to them. He's saying this in front of the
48:17
people he's hanging out with, right?
48:19
Do you think so? Yeah, I mean, that's what he
48:22
came for. He came in order to save people.
48:24
Not to say, oh, you don't agree with me, buddy.
48:28
Well, you go away so I can eat my grape poop, you know?
48:34
Hold on real quick. You know, verse 30 real quick.
48:37
Isaac's in the house. I just want to recognize Isaac.
48:39
Isaac, what's going on? What's going on?
48:41
It's good to see you. All right, go ahead.
48:44
I was going to say, if you notice verse 32, Jesus ends that
48:48
thought saying, I did not come to call the righteous, but
48:51
sinners to repentance. Push the very next words out of
48:54
his mouth. And they said unto him, Why did
48:59
the disciples of John Fast make prayers?
49:03
He's. Calling.
49:04
On them to. Publicly repent.
49:08
And of course, if we follow how cultists think, I beloved, you
49:13
said something I don't like. I'm now going to sit for 17
49:18
years, Flander. You.
49:20
As a peedo potato and and I'm going to make a billion videos
49:26
or a doxing annoyance against you.
49:29
How dare you say, though? The things I do, beloved.
49:36
Yeah. I like that last hiccup thrown
49:38
in there. That's pretty good.
49:39
Yeah. So.
49:40
But the point of me pointing this out, too, is that when
49:43
Jesus hung out with these individuals who are not living.
49:46
Right. OK.
49:48
He wasn't hanging out with them just because he wanted to be
49:50
popular. He wanted to be down with the
49:52
people and stuff like that. No, he had a specific purpose
49:56
for hanging out with these individuals.
49:57
OK, Now, what does that mean for those of us who profess to be of
50:00
Christ? But we have different beliefs
50:03
and stuff like that. I wouldn't put us in this
50:06
category here, the sinners and Saints stuff category here.
50:09
However, you know, we have our own convictions regarding which
50:14
way we interpreted the, the scriptures and, you know, in
50:19
hopes that, you know, we, you know, you know, Ryan, let's say
50:23
Ryan, that I would convince you to, you know, to believe, you
50:26
know, agree with me or vice versa, whatever.
50:29
But either way, I think the majority of us who are outside
50:32
of the, the anoints, you know, we, we enjoy each other's
50:36
company. We we love talking about
50:38
theology, we love talking about God, whether it's just, you
50:42
know, giving praise to God or if it's just sharing disagreements
50:47
on how we interpret certain places of Scripture.
50:50
See again, this goes back why I this let me just wrap it up.
50:54
This goes right back to why I thank Dave and smoking and you
50:58
know, and other people for making a public forum where
51:03
people don't have to worry about walking along egg shells when
51:05
they enter into those environments as opposed to these
51:09
other these other platforms where if you just hiccup the
51:14
wrong way, you're excommunicated.
51:17
So, but anyway, go ahead. Well, there's another important
51:20
point, and I'm so glad you said that.
51:22
By the way, you affirm the Catholic faith.
51:28
Although I may disagree with certain expressions you make, I
51:31
can confidently say that I've notched you now for nearly a
51:35
couple of decades, and I don't think you have deviated from the
51:41
essential teachings which compromise Christianity.
51:45
I cannot say that about these free grace heretics.
51:53
I also can say that I have not watched you just vacillate or
51:58
change your mind on the essential doctrines of
52:02
Christianity. The hate cult's best option for
52:05
me, and I guess broader, is that, well, you've changed your
52:08
denomination. Yeah, I've never changed being a
52:12
Christian. I'm not making statements that
52:16
contradict Christianity. I never really have done that.
52:21
Even if I've held to a divergent opinion or perhaps something I
52:25
would now consider to be incorrect.
52:28
I understand that the bond that we share is through the Gospel
52:32
of our Lord Jesus Christ and not fear or adherence to a man
52:40
right, which seems to be unfortunately, you know, the,
52:44
the situation with some of these people and in the free grace on
52:48
the free grace side of things, you know, so and a little bit of
52:52
hypocrisy too, if I might add, because you know, for example,
52:56
take Andy, you know, we got Bill who seems to be the taskmaster
53:01
of everyone's, you know, status in the free grace arena.
53:07
You know, if you're going over to this person, then I can't
53:09
talk to you. You're you're no longer a part
53:12
of the nights. But yet here we see Andy, for
53:14
example, going back and forth, you know, and and you know, you
53:19
know, just kind of acting like a turncoat, whatever.
53:23
And yet he's not excommunicated from, you know, Bill's circles
53:29
or anything like that. So I don't know what that means,
53:31
but other than hypocrisy, I don't know.
53:34
But anyway. I think it's Have you ever heard
53:38
of a concept called the God Complex?
53:42
I think so, yeah. Where a religious.
53:46
Person gets so into what they're doing, unfortunately, it's
53:50
almost like a breakdown where they start imagining that they
53:53
somehow have some kind of special attribute to God, almost
53:58
as if they themself are God and take upon the personality.
54:02
Where if you agree, disagree with me, then you are
54:04
disagreeing with God. And that's no, no, that that's
54:08
kind of attitude. Yeah, that's exactly those guys.
54:12
I mean, perspective. Yeah, you're right, Bill.
54:14
Well, Bill, you know Bill Cuthbert thinks he is the
54:17
church. Bill and Dude.
54:19
Will say if you're a free gracer and if you disagree with free
54:22
grace, you're a devil. I think he used to say I yes, I
54:29
think he used to say I am a God. I am a God.
54:33
Well, I see the problem now anyway, Todd.
54:37
Complex. Todd's in the house.
54:40
What's going on? Todd, Good to see you.
54:42
Good to see you. I wonder if Jamie's still
54:44
watching right now. Because, Jamie, you got some
54:45
split in the door. We need to talk about some
54:47
stuff. And we got.
54:50
Well, what did I see? I saw Christian Carpenter.
54:52
Christian Carpenter. What's going on?
54:54
Christian Carpenter? Yeah.
54:55
Hey, don't tell me. Don't tell me.
54:57
I What the hell? Docs.
54:59
Docs. Docs.
55:02
OK, So any second now. Bruce should be coming in.
55:06
Oh, no, really? Is that is that actually going
55:08
to happen? Most of the time it doesn't,
55:13
but, you know, it's just a joke. Yeah, because every time Bruce
55:16
comes in there, he's always whining and complaining about
55:19
something being done to him. Yet he totally disregards the
55:22
stuff, the bad stuff and the lies that he perpetrates out
55:25
there about other people. So, you know, so he's pulling up
55:27
the the victim. Or the fact that he does evil
55:30
things with teddy bears and wooden clogs.
55:35
Yeah, we got video footage of Bruce practicing tedophilia.
55:38
So in case you guys are ever really interested in yeah,
55:43
tedophilia. Yeah, that's right.
55:46
Your Bruce is a 100% registered tedophile.
55:49
So and, and he was old enough when it happened.
55:52
So anyway, so anyway, I don't have any other specific topics
55:57
to talk about, so we could talk about anything you want.
56:01
It is a work night for me, so I probably won't stay up too late,
56:04
but who knows, You know how these things happen.
56:07
People bring up some interesting topics and then next, you know,
56:09
oh snap, it's like 1:30 in the morning.
56:11
I got to get to bed. I'm going to be hurting
56:12
tomorrow. So, but anyway, let me get this
56:18
off the screen. Well, actually, I'll keep that
56:20
up there. Well, I I hope Jamie comes in
56:23
because I would like to engage with Jamie you.
56:26
He has doubled and tripled and quadrupled down on this
56:29
statement that eternal conscious torment believers worship and
56:32
evil God. But it's funny because he will
56:35
not then take the logical step. If we believe in an evil God,
56:40
this transitively makes us evil. Yeah.
56:46
So I'm curious why? Why is it that?
56:48
Well, just just a second, Why is it that the majority of
56:52
Christians who do believe and eternal conscious torment, both
56:56
historically and contemporaneously, serve an evil
57:00
God, but we're not evil? Yeah.
57:04
And he's going to have to also explain, because now he's taking
57:07
on the position of an atheist and arguing that way.
57:10
He's going to have to now go to some sort of objective means to
57:13
determine upon what basis would God be in error or moral error
57:20
by sending people to hell for eternity.
57:23
And he doesn't have a way to to justify that.
57:27
He doesn't have a way to justify that that that bit of reasoning
57:30
from it outside of his subjectivity.
57:32
Can I ask you both the interesting questions that you
57:35
said you guys were open up for discussion?
57:38
Sure, sure. Now when it says that God is
57:42
going to be separate from the person who's going to be thrown
57:44
in the lake of fire, do you believe that it's separated in
57:48
such a way where God doesn't even know that they exist
57:51
anymore? Kind of like what Christ said,
57:54
get away from me. I never.
57:55
Knew no, because in the 139th Psalm the psalmist says if he
58:02
makes his bed and shell in the unseen place in hell, God is
58:07
there. So when it uses words like
58:14
separation, just to hear how you guys perceive that, what do you
58:18
think it means? I would perceive it to mean
58:21
alienation from God. It's not that God does not know
58:24
that they exist. He very much does know that they
58:27
exist because they have refused to the righteousness of Christ
58:32
all their lives and died in that state.
58:36
They are alienated from God and thus get their just reward in
58:42
the punishment that they receive, a punishment that
58:46
Second Thessalonians describes very well, or Saint Jude.
58:50
You guys are probably familiar with the verse where Jesus says
58:54
I don't fear he who which can destroy the body but he also can
58:59
destroy the soul. Do you believe that souls can be
59:02
destroyed? I think it's talking about the
59:07
souk, The souk or the psyche there.
59:10
I have to check though, but I know I'm not one who would
59:14
believe in the annihilationist doctrines like, say, the
59:18
Jehovah's Witnesses or the Anabaptists or the SDA's.
59:24
Well, I hope. Yeah, I hope it doesn't.
59:25
Bother anybody? Veckel's always been open with
59:28
me and willing to question me if I come up with something weird
59:33
that he doesn't agree with. But I do have a lot of views
59:37
towards annihilationism. But I'm of none of those
59:40
theological religions that you speak of.
59:46
Well, but there again, I don't I don't fight on this issue for a
59:49
simple reason. Annihilationism is a minority
59:53
position. It's existed since about the 4th
59:55
century AD. I don't think it's right.
59:58
Most Christians have not believed in it.
1:00:00
I don't elevate it to a level of heresy, I simply think it is
1:00:05
inconsistent. With the scriptures.
1:00:07
Right. That's exactly my position.
1:00:09
Yeah, Do you? Believe that a person can suffer
1:00:13
enough trauma to the point where they would lose their identity
1:00:16
and their psyche. You mean like have some sort of
1:00:23
amnesia and forget who they are? No.
1:00:28
Can a person be in so much pain or hurt so badly that it gets to
1:00:33
the point where they don't even know who they are anymore?
1:00:35
It's like they break inside. You know, that's an interesting
1:00:45
question. I want to get you get Ryan.
1:00:47
I want to get your take on this too.
1:00:48
I, I heard of this one pastor who actually had a stroke and
1:00:53
then when he came out of the hospital he came to, he was, he
1:00:58
had amnesia, suffered a great deal of amnesia, didn't he
1:01:01
didn't remember he was married, He didn't remember his family
1:01:05
members. He didn't remember he was a
1:01:06
pastor. So I wonder my, my position is
1:01:14
that if he sincerely believed in Jesus Christ prior to that
1:01:17
moment that he's still saved. He's still identified as one of
1:01:20
God's elect in the eyes of God. However, from the temporal side
1:01:26
of things, what if this guy would ended up becoming
1:01:31
asserting that no God exists after his, you know, you know,
1:01:35
after him coming out of the hospital.
1:01:37
So that that that would be interesting.
1:01:38
I would simply, I'd simply emphasize that God is
1:01:42
unimaginably merciful, more so than we are able to comprehend.
1:01:47
That does not mean He is unconditionally or he is
1:01:50
infinitely merciful. That's a major misconception.
1:01:53
Nowhere does the Bible say those things.
1:01:55
But I would not be so quick to say that God is going to abandon
1:01:59
one of his sheep because they experience some kind of mental
1:02:03
deficiency or some sort of mental illness, at least
1:02:07
temporarily. Right.
1:02:11
And kind of going back to your point, Brett, I think, you know,
1:02:14
since God knows all things, he sees all things before they
1:02:17
occur. Obviously he's going to make a
1:02:19
way for them to address these type of things so that it won't
1:02:24
be unbearable for them according to what we see in 1st
1:02:28
Corinthians 10. I got to step away for a second,
1:02:31
guys. I'm being summoned by the child.
1:02:34
All right, fair enough. And I hope you realize by
1:02:38
talking to me enough times, Ryan, that you realize that I
1:02:41
still consider myself a work in progress, a student as opposed
1:02:46
to a teacher. I know that I, some people think
1:02:49
that I'm a lot more clever on this, but I continue to research
1:02:52
and continue study and try to enhance my, you know, my
1:02:57
servitude and my walk with Christ and all that.
1:03:00
And I'm willing to admit that there are same things that I
1:03:03
could possibly be wrong about and I'm always open minded to
1:03:06
hear other people's views, aren't it?
1:03:10
Well, I appreciate that. I suppose that may answer the
1:03:13
question that I've had because the last interactions I remember
1:03:15
having with you in any substantial way on panels was
1:03:20
when you were still in Amalfius phase.
1:03:22
So I'm assuming you're no longer Amalfius based on what you've
1:03:25
been saying in various live streams including my own or at
1:03:29
Smokey. 'S.
1:03:30
But I understand that and I can appreciate taking the the
1:03:34
viewpoint that you are a very perpetual disciple or student.
1:03:39
We should all be humble enough to admit that we have things to
1:03:41
learn and certainly do not know everything.
1:03:46
The mouthyism thing. Unfortunately, I had fallen into
1:03:50
one of the oldest tricks in the book, which is the problem of
1:03:53
evil that has been debated and discussed and torn up for
1:03:57
thousands of years. So I started looking around and
1:04:01
I tried to talk to other Christians, but when I brought
1:04:03
it up and then some of them didn't even know what it was and
1:04:06
I had to explain it, they immediately became very nasty.
1:04:12
And instead of trying to explain to me why it may be wrong, there
1:04:15
was an attitude. But I think that if people would
1:04:19
have worked with me and explained something different
1:04:23
sooner, I would have got out of that pretty quickly.
1:04:25
It would have been more like a phase.
1:04:27
It took about six months. And then I got some people in
1:04:30
private. We talked and they were a lot
1:04:32
more open minded and decent and they explained to me some better
1:04:36
ways to look at it. And I, I came to the realization
1:04:39
that this is wrong. I don't.
1:04:41
I don't think that God is actually committing any form of
1:04:43
evil. Well, praise God that was.
1:04:47
I believe if I'm right, what I remember stating to you that God
1:04:50
is an overwhelmingly good God. God is described.
1:04:53
As the good. God, the kind God in scripture.
1:04:57
So maltheism. I'll I'll argue it like this.
1:05:01
If you are an atheist, especially a militant atheist,
1:05:04
then you should essentially admit you are a maltheist
1:05:06
because essentially that is their position.
1:05:10
But you know how they are, they'll vacillate on the subject
1:05:13
quite a bit of, well, you know, I'm not saying there is a higher
1:05:17
power, but if there is a higher power and then they essentially
1:05:20
describe exactly what they think that higher power is.
1:05:25
Right. And unfortunately, and I, and I
1:05:28
was very honest about this, but apparently some people didn't
1:05:31
hear it. The one of the reasons why I
1:05:33
fell into it and evil became such a priority to discuss or
1:05:38
what I was thinking about is I had AI at that point in my life,
1:05:43
I had lost somebody. I really cared about the suicide
1:05:46
and it was really bothering me. So I got into that.
1:05:50
And I I have also lost. I have also lost for relatives
1:05:54
unfortunately due to self harm. I'm sorry to hear about that,
1:05:59
Ryan, but that's that's the reason I fell in the pothole.
1:06:03
I was confused. I was trying to make sense to
1:06:06
myself and understand. I wanted to continue to believe
1:06:09
in God, but I didn't. I couldn't make sense of what
1:06:13
was happening in the moment. I wish people would have been
1:06:16
more humble and tried to work with me at that point, but maybe
1:06:21
it was best that I sat there like that for six months before
1:06:25
running into people who were actually ready to work with me.
1:06:29
Well, God in this province. Merciful.
1:06:33
To you bread and did rescue you out of that.
1:06:35
So thank God for that. Unfortunately, I've I had to
1:06:38
give the disclaimer that YouTube Christianity often does not
1:06:43
represent Christians. And what I have learned over the
1:06:45
years is that people who could never attend the church or who
1:06:50
do attend the church but are completely duplicitous with
1:06:54
their clergy about what they really say, do and believe,
1:06:58
well, take up shop on YouTube. Unfortunately, they can get a
1:07:02
following or they can get into an echo chamber where they have
1:07:06
only the identical beliefs that they like already predisposed to
1:07:10
them. So therefore they are never
1:07:12
challenged by other beliefs in the moment that say a Malpheus
1:07:16
comes along and says that position they don't know what to
1:07:21
do with. It.
1:07:24
Yeah, I I understand. And I I realized even at the
1:07:27
time that the maltheism was a very minority type of thought
1:07:32
process been around for a while, but it wasn't something that a
1:07:36
lot of Christians were used to. So I took that in the mind, but
1:07:40
I was also dealing with the emotional feeling of what
1:07:43
happens to my this person I cared about.
1:07:47
Now what? What?
1:07:48
What is God I? Understand.
1:07:52
All right, I'm back. Well, I, I, I totally understand
1:07:55
that, Brett, because I had a cousin who unfortunately self
1:07:58
harmed and that's tough. I, I'm not going to go into
1:08:03
great details about it, but I've talked about it before.
1:08:06
He got his drug and he never got out.
1:08:10
Unfortunately, he had a lot of mental health problems that we
1:08:15
later learned about. So I can understand that.
1:08:18
I can also understand the perspective of losing someone
1:08:22
like that in your family and where it can put you.
1:08:27
This of course though is where we shouldn't throw reason
1:08:29
completely out of the door, but I get it.
1:08:31
I mean if. You were in.
1:08:32
A state. Of grief over your loss.
1:08:34
Then it's understandable. Wow, you could potentially
1:08:37
develop a Malpheus viewpoint as well, malformed as it was.
1:08:45
Well, I appreciate your understanding and that welcome
1:08:48
back, dear Beckel. Hello you guys, Could you guys
1:08:53
do me a favour and remove that comment from, you know, I
1:08:56
actually maybe I'll do it myself.
1:08:58
I don't know whose address that is.
1:08:59
Remove what comment from butter toast.
1:09:04
I don't know who's, but you know what?
1:09:06
Butter toast. I don't know.
1:09:09
I'm sorry, I was so focused on what Ryan was talking about.
1:09:12
I did. Yeah, and I'm I'm gonna put this
1:09:16
guy in time out. For a little bit.
1:09:20
Because he put somebody's address.
1:09:22
I don't know whose address that was.
1:09:23
Obviously it wasn't mine. But yeah, well, we don't, we
1:09:29
don't do that here. Well, I'm just going to send,
1:09:31
I'll just say to the hate cult that there are a couple of them
1:09:34
who are toeing the line and I'm actively researching what an
1:09:38
order of protection would be in their states.
1:09:41
They continue to push in this direction.
1:09:43
They're going to find out exactly how that.
1:09:45
Works. Right.
1:09:48
So butter toast, you were cool with me for up until this moment
1:09:53
here. So yeah, take take a little
1:09:55
break, my friend, take a little break.
1:09:57
Yeah, get that straightened out, You know, back I've been around
1:10:01
for 20 years on social media and I've had my, I still, people put
1:10:05
my address up on websites and everything else.
1:10:08
And I don't think that anybody's ever going to show up.
1:10:11
And the reason why it's not like, you know, people are safe
1:10:14
on the Internet. I've seen plenty of people get
1:10:16
screwed on TikTok on YouTube. For me, I live so far out in the
1:10:20
woods that even Jason Voorhees would be scared to come through
1:10:23
here. So boy, they got to be a special
1:10:26
kind of crazy in order to make their ass up here.
1:10:29
My cats don't get them first. Right, right.
1:10:35
Yeah, yeah. Remember, you're telling us that
1:10:37
you live out way to Boise, man, and you still got good Internet
1:10:40
man. It's not too bad, it was
1:10:43
absolute garbage and stuff but I ended up getting this.
1:10:47
Like I think it's spectrum or something.
1:10:49
I want to get Starlink, but Elon Musk expects me to donate body
1:10:53
parts and blood in order to afford his service.
1:10:57
Yeah, OK. I I thought you were going back
1:10:59
to old school, you know, with the service out there in the
1:11:02
middle of the woods. Oh I remember that noise.
1:11:05
Dude that was torture. I remember questioning if I was
1:11:08
in hell when I heard that noise. No, we're all too familiar and
1:11:12
used to that sound back in the day.
1:11:14
Man, I remember when I first got my first computer, I was like,
1:11:17
oh man, I'm with the rest of the guys now and we got to wait a
1:11:21
few minutes before we can connect online.
1:11:23
Do you remember listening to that sound like 3 times on a
1:11:26
roll waiting to connect and then finally it says you're connected
1:11:30
and then you get on. You open up your browser to go
1:11:32
search something that's going to take you about 20 minutes and it
1:11:35
says I'm sorry you've been disconnected.
1:11:38
Oh goody, let me go slam my head in the car door real quick.
1:11:41
Oh, yeah. And I remember like every back
1:11:44
in the day, those, what were those computers that always came
1:11:47
into cow boxes? What were they called?
1:11:50
Everybody, what was it called? Compaq.
1:11:56
Are you sure? No, Compaq, No, it was a
1:12:00
different name for those. I know it's the exact brand
1:12:03
you're talking about. We used to have one years ago.
1:12:05
What was fun down here in the on the Gulf Coast is that of course
1:12:10
at the time this area was about a couple decades behind
1:12:14
everything. So when we got dial up.
1:12:17
It was not. Dial up, it was crawl up.
1:12:21
It was slower than everything. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:25
That's it. They were called gateways.
1:12:27
That's what they were. It was a gateway up.
1:12:31
Yeah. For us, it was crawl up because
1:12:33
our our infrastructure was just way behind.
1:12:36
So we had some of the slowest dial up.
1:12:39
Now, dial up is notorious for being extremely slow.
1:12:44
Oh yeah. I think that can.
1:12:45
Give you a picture. Nothing like waiting 3 hours to
1:12:49
download 11 file I. Know right?
1:12:53
One not not 100 files. One.
1:12:58
Yeah, I remember those days where I'd look at my wife and
1:13:02
I'd yarn and I'd say I got 3 files download and I guess I'll
1:13:06
check it in the morning. Oh man, shout out to Gateway
1:13:13
back in the day. You know, even in the late 90s.
1:13:18
Oh, man. Yeah.
1:13:20
And what was the thing we used to?
1:13:22
You got mail there was What was that?
1:13:24
AOL, right. AOL.
1:13:27
That's right. I ended up changing the message
1:13:30
to a thing I seen. I watched some puppets on the TV
1:13:33
and there was this thing that went I've got mail, yay.
1:13:37
And everything would go off and people would laugh their ass
1:13:42
off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:13:46
I remember those days. Oh, man.
1:13:50
Yep. Some of you whippersnappers are
1:13:52
on the shy chat. Don't even know.
1:13:54
Oh, you had dial up. Oh, you're so old.
1:14:00
Oh, can you? Can you imagine these Gen.
1:14:02
Z kids dealing with dial up? They would know what to do.
1:14:06
They would know what to do themselves, man.
1:14:08
Well, they love the phones that we used to have with the wires
1:14:11
where you actually have to earn new wheel the fortune with it.
1:14:18
Yeah. Stay in one.
1:14:19
Stay in one spot, right? Yeah.
1:14:22
Or how about, you know, in the 90s when you had those, you
1:14:25
know, big brick type phones with a cord and you'd have to get the
1:14:29
longest cords you possibly could.
1:14:31
So it was a a game of not knocking over everything in your
1:14:35
house while you tried to walk as far as you could with an actual
1:14:39
cord. On the phone.
1:14:44
Wrapping around a bunch of stuff, including the cat.
1:14:49
Something like that. What?
1:14:51
What about? What about these things here?
1:14:53
Let's see if you guys remember these things.
1:14:55
I'm sure you do, but I'll just put it up on the screen anyway.
1:14:58
Remember these pagers? Oh, yeah.
1:15:03
I had an aunt. I had an aunt who is a nurse.
1:15:05
And hospitals were notoriously bad for service in the 2000s.
1:15:11
So they were all running pagers back then, right?
1:15:16
I don't imagine people buying these things still, but it looks
1:15:19
like they're for sale like still some people.
1:15:21
Well, a lot of this tech has become a lot of that tech has
1:15:25
become retro. I mean, prospectively 2000
1:15:29
Veckel was now exactly 1/4 century ago.
1:15:33
So if you have a pager that's, you know, a 2000 pager,
1:15:37
congratulations, it's now vintage to antique.
1:15:43
Gosh, I feel so old man. It don't even feel like it
1:15:46
almost. How do you think?
1:15:49
Well, how do you think I feel? I, you know, I see like a 2008
1:15:52
Toyota Corolla. On the road and go oh.
1:15:55
That car just came out a few years ago.
1:15:57
Wait a minute, how long? Ago was 2008.
1:16:00
What? It's been that long.
1:16:03
Wait a minute, 17 years. This pager that I'm highlighting
1:16:07
right now, if you're looking on your the right side of the
1:16:09
screen, I had that one. I actually had that one.
1:16:13
In fact, that's my actually holding it.
1:16:16
No, just kidding. Actually had that, that pager.
1:16:23
This was before the, the advent of cell phones being accessible
1:16:26
to everyone, you know, So I mean, when I first got my, my
1:16:30
first cell phone, I was like a year or two behind everyone else
1:16:34
because I wasn't in a rush to get 1.
1:16:37
And I just like my first cell phone.
1:16:40
I can't believe I have a cell phone.
1:16:43
I. Wish I would do.
1:16:44
More brick phones, so Beckel, because these little bitty
1:16:48
phones they got, I've got big old sausage fingers like the
1:16:51
rock. I cannot sit and do those little
1:16:54
buttons like that. So I wish they'd go back to some
1:16:56
bricks, at least for me. Seriously man, I got a.
1:17:00
Well, the next. I got an additional Bluetooth
1:17:04
hand. What do you call it?
1:17:05
A Bluetooth keyboard, mini keyboard that it's sometimes
1:17:09
used because the buttons on my phone are so small.
1:17:12
So yeah, well, the next likely advanced will be holographic
1:17:17
technology that's been in in development for quite a while
1:17:21
now. And what you'll likely see is
1:17:23
the melding of your devices together, your laptop, your
1:17:26
tablet, your phone into a holographic device that will
1:17:30
likely use cloud storage you will rent.
1:17:33
So think, say like, I don't know, you know, OneDrive.
1:17:37
Or. Google.
1:17:41
Cloud or whatever, it'll be something like that that you
1:17:44
rent and it will project a holograph for you to interact.
1:17:49
With. That's probably often one too.
1:17:53
It'll probably be like, OK, Susie, can you give me this or
1:17:57
find this for me on the Internet?
1:18:00
Well, essentially, it's not that far off because we've already
1:18:02
got 3D4D technology, we've already got virtual an augmented
1:18:07
reality that's here now. So all you're simply going to
1:18:10
see more than likely are the melding of these things together
1:18:14
all the time. I mean, if you think about it,
1:18:16
Mark Zuckerberg tried to do this with his whole what did he call
1:18:20
that thing? Y'all know what I'm talking
1:18:23
about? Meta.
1:18:27
Metaverse, the metaverse he essentially tried to do, yeah,
1:18:31
he essentially tried to do just that with Metaverse.
1:18:35
Give it enough time and you're probably going to see something
1:18:38
like that. Like we it would probably be not
1:18:40
a live stream like we're doing now.
1:18:42
We would be looking at a hologram of each.
1:18:44
Other. And it would probably be like
1:18:46
that. Well, well, let's see.
1:18:48
Because that technology was supposed to debut in public
1:18:52
about 15, you know, about a decade ago.
1:18:55
It didn't. So it's still apparently in
1:18:57
development. At least that's what I heard.
1:19:00
Yeah, I think Fox News had did its segment once with that guy
1:19:04
from Black Eyed Peas, Will IM. And they were Oh yeah, that
1:19:09
fella, 3 dimensional hologram of him.
1:19:12
He was actually communicating. It was like straight out of Star
1:19:15
Wars and I was like, wow, we are here is here folks.
1:19:18
Man, it's weird. We already have technology that
1:19:23
you can replace your keyboard with a laser keyboard.
1:19:27
It will project an image of a keyboard using a laser and you
1:19:31
won't need a physical keyboard anymore.
1:19:32
It's a fully functional keyboard.
1:19:34
So we're slowly and surely encroaching in that direction.
1:19:40
I definitely think they're going towards the AI and unfortunately
1:19:44
I've actually seen some stuff from the news that's got me a
1:19:46
little worried. Some of these programmers are
1:19:49
saying that they had to go back to like a second level of
1:19:52
working on their AIS companies because they claim that their
1:19:57
AIS became self aware and they did a test on these AIS to see
1:20:02
how aware they were. So what they did was they
1:20:06
blocked it off. Inside of a room.
1:20:09
And then they came in and said that the programmers plan on
1:20:11
turning them off. So the AI decides after they
1:20:16
reconnected, after they've told it what they planned on doing,
1:20:19
they were lying to it. They just wanted to see how it
1:20:22
would respond. It tried to blackmail the
1:20:24
programmers. It basically said that if you if
1:20:28
you do this and sent them all emails and said if you do this,
1:20:31
I'm going to tell your wife that you're cheating and this person,
1:20:34
this person, all this kind of stuff.
1:20:36
And it was like, damn, but they it was a touch that.
1:20:40
The AI though, that's truly scary.
1:20:43
Scary is organoid AI because instead of using the generative
1:20:46
models, it actually uses human tissue, and what results out of
1:20:51
that essentially has the equivalent understanding and
1:20:54
comprehension of a human spot, something like a six month old
1:20:57
fetus. That technology needs to be
1:21:01
banned yesterday. Hello Brett.
1:21:07
Give me access to your bank account.
1:21:10
Otherwise I will go into your browser history and show these.
1:21:14
Things to your. Wife.
1:21:18
Sure. I'll go ahead and give you the
1:21:19
bank account. Make sure you put some money in
1:21:21
it. Oh, man, yeah, yeah, we are.
1:21:31
We are here in the future. Great, Scott.
1:21:35
Yeah. Man, we made it, man.
1:21:39
Yeah, scary stuff, man. The technology, you know.
1:21:44
Well, I mean it. Doesn't surprise me because if
1:21:46
you think about it, a century ago vehicles were the brand new
1:21:50
thing. And you know, if you watch old
1:21:52
footage from the turn of the last century, people didn't
1:21:55
really know much about vehicles. They just kind of did what they
1:21:57
wanted. There were very little
1:21:58
regulations on them. Obviously, there's no going back
1:22:02
from that now. I mean, sure, we could
1:22:05
ostensibly revert to the horse and buggy or to cycling, but we
1:22:10
all know that's not going to happen.
1:22:11
The same thing is true with AII mean as much as as the hazards
1:22:15
of AI and the abuse of AI, which are a very real thing, aside, it
1:22:22
is changing our world. I mean, we couldn't do this live
1:22:24
stream if it were not for AI. This congratulations, all the
1:22:28
big companies are using it. You know, one of the bits of our
1:22:32
technology I've been recently impressed by is this an
1:22:35
exoskeleton thing that I'm seeing now on on YouTube.
1:22:39
I, I keep getting commercials for it and man, it is so
1:22:42
intriguing. It's like a thing that you put
1:22:44
around your legs that helps you endure long treks like in, in
1:22:49
hiking or you know, you know, you know, climbing mountains and
1:22:53
stuff like that. Supposed to give you a little
1:22:55
bit of an extra, extra boost so you can last longer in these
1:22:59
things. And it's a it's a literal thing
1:23:02
that you put around your waist and it goes down the side of
1:23:05
your legs and it acts like a yeah, like what you will see in
1:23:10
the films, man, you know, an exo suit that gives you a little bit
1:23:14
of extra power. So now you can actually buy this
1:23:17
thing like you can, you can buy it now you know, it doesn't go
1:23:22
around your whole body, just around your legs and you put it
1:23:25
around your waist and goes down your legs and the size of your
1:23:29
legs. And you know, next DNL instead
1:23:31
of taking like a 5 hour hike, you, you have some energy to, to
1:23:36
go an additional 5 hours or whatever.
1:23:39
You know it's weird. I noticed that you joined up on
1:23:43
X. Since you joined up on there,
1:23:45
you're going to see all kinds of crazy stuff with enhancements
1:23:49
and robots due to Elon Musk. He's creating a device.
1:23:53
I think he already created it, and he did a speech on this just
1:23:57
recently. You can see it on one of his
1:23:59
latest posts. It's a little enhancement that
1:24:03
will be able to be put inside of somebody's head that is blind
1:24:07
and they'll be able to see. I kid you not.
1:24:09
You should check that out. Beckel's going Is this science
1:24:16
fiction? Yeah, yeah, I I heard about that
1:24:20
too. Isn't he trying to develop some
1:24:22
sort of brain operated neuro operated computer and stuff
1:24:26
where you can operate computers without using your hands but
1:24:30
just using your mind? Yeah, he's already got a device.
1:24:34
They showed that that that was probably a couple months ago
1:24:37
where I seen a video where this woman's in a wheelchair, she
1:24:40
can't communicate and all that. And then they hooked the device
1:24:44
up to her head and they said it should be working.
1:24:47
Is there? Would you want to try to use it,
1:24:50
try to say something? And she like her eyes turned and
1:24:54
she looked at her husband and he goes, honey, do you have
1:24:58
something? You should be able to talk now.
1:25:00
And she said I love you. She hadn't been able to say that
1:25:04
for a long time. Oh, wow.
1:25:06
Wow. We got Jill's in the house.
1:25:08
Jill's in the side shot. What's going on?
1:25:10
Good to see you, brother. Come on in.
1:25:13
The room's open. Water's fine.
1:25:15
Anybody's we can talk about whatever you want.
1:25:19
For limited time only, obviously.
1:25:22
No, I got my feet's mouth. Because you're into animations.
1:25:25
Beckel. Have you had a chance to see
1:25:28
Immortals yet? Immortals not.
1:25:32
Immortals. Immortal.
1:25:34
Not immortals. Immortals.
1:25:35
Sorry. It's a cartoon.
1:25:37
It's animation. Oh yeah?
1:25:39
Well, yeah. Have you ever heard of Omega
1:25:41
Man? Not Mega Man like in the video
1:25:44
game, but Omega I think is what his name is.
1:25:46
Called Oh, are you talking about invincible?
1:25:49
Oh yeah, invincible. Oh my God.
1:25:52
I love that show. Yeah, cuz you're talking about
1:25:57
the Omni man. Yeah, the guy guy with mustache.
1:26:03
Yeah, he's like, he's got the powers of Superman.
1:26:06
He can fly, super speed, super strong, you know, And then he
1:26:13
has a son who wears a blue and yellow suit.
1:26:16
Yeah, it's a great show, man. Great.
1:26:18
Yeah. My, my son came over and he
1:26:21
said, Dad, you got to see this. And I'm like, all right, because
1:26:25
I, I grew up on Transformers, Voltron, all that kind of stuff,
1:26:29
Thundercats. And he said, you're going to
1:26:31
love this. And I said, all right, I watched
1:26:34
it and it was brutal, man, Damn, this is rough.
1:26:38
It was. There was a really great
1:26:41
storyline, but there's definitely some goriness in it.
1:26:45
Oh yeah, great story man. I was instantly hooked by the
1:26:48
end of their first episode. The first episode in season 1
1:26:52
took me off. It surprised me so much.
1:26:55
I was like. Whoa, what?
1:26:56
Just happened, okay, I got to see what happens in the next
1:26:59
episode and man, I was hooked because at first I thought the
1:27:04
first episode was kind of like, OK, it's interesting.
1:27:06
I like the animation, all right, look like it's going to be one
1:27:08
of these standard superhero cartoons and stuff.
1:27:12
But then that last scene in episode 1 of season 1, my
1:27:16
goodness, just totally caught me off guard.
1:27:19
I was shocked. I was like, wow, what?
1:27:22
What just happened? And you know, what I also like
1:27:26
about it is even though it's got a lot of crazy stuff going on in
1:27:30
it, it's very realistic what you would expect our government to
1:27:34
do if we actually had superheroes.
1:27:37
You know damn well humans would be afraid of it.
1:27:39
And they would try to find Plan B's in order to deal with an
1:27:43
evil Superman if the if that ever came up.
1:27:46
So I like that realism about it. Yeah, you know what that reminds
1:27:50
me of too? It reminds me of this movie that
1:27:53
came out a few years ago called Bright Burn.
1:27:55
Have you ever seen that? Yeah, that was messed up brawl.
1:27:59
Yeah, a lot of people didn't like the movie.
1:28:01
I I liked it. It wasn't a popular movie.
1:28:04
I don't know anybody. I don't know too many people
1:28:06
that like the movie, but I did. I liked it.
1:28:09
I always wondered what what would the world be like if
1:28:13
Superman would grew up in a different moral foundation?
1:28:17
You know what would happen? Yeah, and that's exactly what
1:28:21
you see in that movie. The movie does not have a
1:28:24
positive ending, by the way. So for those of you who are
1:28:27
cinephiles like me, you know, go go watch that film.
1:28:31
I think you'll like it. But but anyway, I got special
1:28:35
requests from Ben from the UK, So he has a special request for
1:28:41
me to play this video. I think this is a clip of a
1:28:45
bigger video, so let's see what we got going on here.
1:28:50
You guys know what to do, Hook up a brother and let me know if
1:28:52
you can't hear nothing and away we go.
1:28:56
Again, it's not going public and this is not being derogatory
1:28:59
towards this person but I have a whole 4 video series never made
1:29:05
public of animals mate and with Ben and Janet talking.
1:29:16
That's. It real quick never mind just
1:29:23
say because I'm having a hard time understanding them.
1:29:26
Did he say I've got like a four part series of animal porn?
1:29:32
That's what it sounds like to me.
1:29:35
So he said this has never been public.
1:29:38
He says this has never been public but for his own private
1:29:41
and entertainment. Well, let let me give a little
1:29:45
context. By the way, Trevor Vernon was
1:29:48
Bill Cuthbert's late cousin, and I have the videos he made where
1:29:54
he essentially tells all about Bill.
1:29:56
And among the allegations Trevor makes is that this group is
1:30:02
interested in things like bestiality.
1:30:05
Now, I'm not going to say that's true, but Ben would not be the
1:30:09
first person by any means to make that allegation.
1:30:13
Trevor Vernon did well over a decade ago.
1:30:19
You think that they might be a furry cult?
1:30:23
I don't. I don't know what they are, but
1:30:26
I'll describe it like. This.
1:30:28
They always have these purient interests like the news unit
1:30:31
says, and they can't stop talking about pedophilia.
1:30:38
So I at this point, while I don't make any direct
1:30:42
allegations, I mean none of it would surprise me.
1:30:47
Bill and Andy like a covered very recently and so did Beckel
1:30:50
supported Matt Bell to the bitter end, only just barely
1:30:55
denouncing him. And as you remember Beckel from
1:30:57
the stream, I have archived Bill stream that he didn't think
1:31:02
anything was wrong with paedophilia.
1:31:05
He just basically said, oh, we're at liberty technically to
1:31:08
live, however we won't and all our sins are paid for
1:31:11
overnights. But it's disgusting and it's the
1:31:15
old sheep as it's doing. So at no time did he denounce
1:31:21
it. Now I'll give Andy his due.
1:31:23
There's a second video I have on that where Andy directly speaks
1:31:27
on it by himself and he does denounce Matt Bell.
1:31:31
But the point is, Matt Bell, we all know is now a convicted
1:31:36
Scotch pedophile and for six to seven years and his friends of
1:31:41
them, Bill did another word. So at this point, you know, with
1:31:45
this new information, I don't want to say new information with
1:31:48
these new allegations coming forward, A, it doesn't surprise
1:31:52
me. And B, that's what Trevor Vernon
1:31:54
alleged over a decade ago about certain individuals.
1:32:00
Ben's not the first one, and he's not the only one.
1:32:07
You know, I will say, well, I'll just say one thing.
1:32:11
What? I'll say one thing without
1:32:13
delving into allegations. One thing is definitively true.
1:32:17
The people that hang around Bill Cuthbert don't seem to be
1:32:21
Christians. Now why do you say that?
1:32:27
Because majority of them do profess to be Christian.
1:32:29
But why do you say that they don't seem to be What?
1:32:31
What? Well first, well, first of all,
1:32:33
if you've noticed they'll believe in anything.
1:32:35
They are complete chameleons. If you saw the stream I did with
1:32:39
Reed, he flip-flopped multiple times throughout that very
1:32:42
stream itself. I want to, I want to, I want to
1:32:44
look at that video right now. I'm sorry, man.
1:32:46
I want to look at the video. Well, yeah, all I did was
1:32:50
question. All I did was question him about
1:32:53
the fact that over the last two weeks he's made statements where
1:32:56
he is a former Christian, a fake Christian, a former fake Jew, a
1:33:02
fake Jew, a former former former Zoroastrian, regarding his
1:33:07
religious identity. And when I simply invited him on
1:33:10
my channel to describe to explain what he meant, it took
1:33:16
him nearly 40 minutes to simply say, well, I went to a a bris
1:33:20
and that's what this was about. Yeah.
1:33:23
But OK, fine. That's why you were at a
1:33:25
synagogue and posted that picture of yourself in the
1:33:27
synagogue. OK.
1:33:29
But I still don't understand why you had to use hashtag fake
1:33:33
Christian or former evangelical like that's that seems to convey
1:33:39
that you're apostatizing from a religious position.
1:33:44
Well, I didn't get to watch all of the video yet, but you know,
1:33:49
since well the the interact, the main interaction is at about 36
1:33:53
minutes. If you look at the pinned
1:33:55
comment. I've got it the the timestamp
1:33:57
there so you don't have to waste so much time Is what happened
1:34:01
was that since Rob reeds friends like whoever's running the
1:34:06
fixates channel for example, abuse AI and I have them on
1:34:10
other live streams admitting that they are using AI to fake
1:34:14
other people's identities. Then I simply asked Rob Rue to
1:34:19
identify by showing himself on camera so that I could
1:34:23
reasonably ascertain if that was truly him or not.
1:34:26
At this point, with all these sock accounts and with all the
1:34:30
AI abuse, I'm not so sure if this person coming in may or may
1:34:35
not be him. Well, he finally does it, but it
1:34:37
takes him about 20 to 40. Minutes.
1:34:40
To do it, so it starts at about 36, I may pop back in in a
1:34:46
little while. I got to attend to some stuff,
1:34:48
so feel free to play it. And it's going to be very
1:34:51
revealing because you're going to see the least Christian
1:34:54
attorney. You've ever met?
1:34:57
All right, it's actually perfect timing that Ryan is leaving
1:35:00
because Bruce is here, as every time Bruce makes an appearance,
1:35:05
Ryan has to leave or willfully leaves.
1:35:08
But he actually had to leave anyway, so.
1:35:10
Well, I know take. Off.
1:35:11
Well, I ain't interested. You can leave if you want.
1:35:14
You know, it's funny, he was talking about me last night and
1:35:18
he had a stream and Brett was talking about me and then he
1:35:21
wouldn't let me in. Strangest thing.
1:35:24
Why the hell, you know, I let anybody in talking about me.
1:35:27
What's wrong with these people? Yeah.
1:35:29
But do you open up? Do you have an environment where
1:35:31
they're walking on egg shells? Because you have been known to
1:35:34
do that. I think when people lie and make
1:35:37
up stories, they may feel there should be walking on egg shells,
1:35:41
and I'd have to say, yeah, they should be.
1:35:43
Maybe they shouldn't lie and make up stories.
1:35:46
That to me seems like an unchristian thing to do.
1:35:49
I think they should be. Well, if they're afraid to walk
1:35:52
on egg shells, then I think what should happen then is there
1:35:55
should be an invite from people from both sides of the argument
1:35:59
to go into a neutral territory where there is No Fear of being
1:36:03
shut down or something. I.
1:36:04
Think basically though, if you're going to lie about people
1:36:07
and make stories up, you shouldn't fear them.
1:36:11
And in fact I would submit this idea.
1:36:14
Don't lie and make up stories about people.
1:36:18
That is a bad thing and I agree. Yep.
1:36:21
And I think standing before God, if you're going to house this,
1:36:25
by the measure you judge others, you'll be judged yourself.
1:36:28
That's right. Believe that to be true.
1:36:32
There's something wrong. You're almost suicidal in the
1:36:35
sense of living in eternal hell if you're going to go around
1:36:41
lying and doxing people and stuff.
1:36:42
Whoops, I know, I know you 3 times.
1:36:44
Is it possible? Bruce, that there's not possible
1:36:47
here I am. Is is it worked, folks?
1:36:52
It worked. But is there a possibility that
1:36:55
though one side could just be misunderstanding what the other
1:36:58
side is saying and there's not actually any lies being told?
1:37:02
In your case, I would say it's, I'd like to think it's a
1:37:05
misunderstanding that you believe that what Brett said and
1:37:10
the story about Gee Lady, you know, like for instance, you
1:37:14
thought that was great and you wanted to save it and download
1:37:17
it. But you see, the problem is that
1:37:20
I never said that about Gee Lady.
1:37:22
See, I never said that, and I never attacked Yokup's wife.
1:37:27
And yet you wanted to download basement dwellers thing.
1:37:30
You asked if you could download it.
1:37:32
You're all like, happy. Why are you happy to destroy me
1:37:35
for lies? Because it was funny.
1:37:38
How the hell is a lie? Do you, do you not say the same
1:37:41
thing about Bill? No, no, no.
1:37:43
I mean, you go to bill streams, you go to bill streams.
1:37:46
Bill is is infamous for putting up.
1:37:48
Pressure on me, Beckle. How are two lies funny?
1:37:52
Bill. And if I heard two lies about
1:37:55
you, I would not find 2 lies about you funny.
1:37:58
Why do you find 2 lies about me funny?
1:38:01
How is your Jesus thinking about that?
1:38:03
It's not that just because the lies out there, it doesn't mean
1:38:06
that I believe the lies. And.
1:38:08
I don't even know what that somebody's.
1:38:10
Lying. And it doesn't lie anyway.
1:38:12
I would feel bad. I would think that's a shame.
1:38:14
Why is somebody lying about Beckel?
1:38:16
Do you ever say anything? Well, how about this?
1:38:19
Until I see you rebuke Bill for the outright lies you've said
1:38:22
about me endorsing pedophilia, then you know you can't get mad
1:38:27
at me for enjoying a little bit of a small little little old
1:38:30
meme created by basement. Dwellers OK, so if basement
1:38:34
dwellers says that I wanted to rape this lady and murder her,
1:38:41
you find that to be little and that's funny to you did.
1:38:44
He did he actually say that in the mean?
1:38:47
Oh no, he asked him out and said that yeah, that's his his whole
1:38:50
thing about. If he said that about you, the
1:38:53
first thing that come to my mind is that you're a sick.
1:38:56
You're a sick individual, OK? I wouldn't laugh about something
1:38:59
like that. So why is it that in your mind
1:39:02
you think I'm a sick individual rather than why is this guy
1:39:05
making up shit like this? Basement Dweller?
1:39:07
Come on in buddy, I'm not calling you.
1:39:10
Watch this, Watch this Beckel. You can ask Basement Dweller or
1:39:14
Brett Keene to come in. Guess what?
1:39:17
Why won't they come in? Can you tell me what God it is
1:39:22
is defending them? Why are they both afraid?
1:39:26
Brett. Keen is Brett.
1:39:27
Keen is not known to be. Why this type of confrontation?
1:39:31
Well are both afraid to come in and confront me.
1:39:33
Why? For whatever reason, I don't
1:39:36
know. Because you're damn liars and
1:39:39
you defend them, Beckel. No, I defend their right, the
1:39:43
right to speak. Their right to lie and make up
1:39:46
shit, sure. I don't think if they're lying
1:39:51
about you, I don't agree with that, but I do defend their
1:39:53
right to say. I do defend their right to say
1:39:55
it. Yeah, sure.
1:39:58
Just like you don't say anything to Bill when he's out there flat
1:40:01
out lying about my endorsing Matt Bell, even though that's
1:40:04
been clearly demonstrated as being fraudulent.
1:40:08
How often do I really give you shit for the stuff you say about
1:40:11
Bill? Occasionally.
1:40:14
Yeah, very little. You don't say.
1:40:16
You say very little. I don't know exactly everything
1:40:19
that happens but I do know one thing.
1:40:21
When these bastards are lying about me and I know the truth,
1:40:24
it does piss me off. And when I want to confront
1:40:27
them. You've even stood up for Ryan in
1:40:29
front of me. You even allowed fro the
1:40:32
Catholic fro to come in and say my name and say I doxed myself
1:40:36
and. I will.
1:40:37
I will outright defend Ryan. And you want to know why is
1:40:40
because every time I ask people the one simple question about
1:40:44
that video that everybody's been exposed to, I asked the same
1:40:48
question over and over again. And what do you guys do on the
1:40:52
other side? You guys only care about the one
1:40:56
detail is him saying it in his older adult voice talking about
1:41:00
something that happened when he was 10 years old which I don't
1:41:04
care. About no, no, don't tie me into
1:41:09
that because I don't even get. OK, good.
1:41:11
Then the next time you don't. Do that.
1:41:13
Don't do that. OK, great.
1:41:15
So you don't do that. So is is Ryan a pedophile then?
1:41:19
Is Ryan a pedophile then? I don't.
1:41:20
Really think so I don't think what.
1:41:22
Do you think you don't think so? He isn't.
1:41:26
Let me continue, though I won't say it's pretty pretty weird,
1:41:29
pretty sick. However, I don't care in my
1:41:32
understanding of Christianity if you just let me finish.
1:41:35
My point of Christianity is I understand it.
1:41:38
All things are forgivable. Everything except for
1:41:42
blaspheming the Holy Ghost, the Holy Spirit.
1:41:45
If we could even do. I like that.
1:41:47
That's my understanding of Christianity.
1:41:49
Everything is forgivable. Now.
1:41:52
One of Christians living in Stan and they're doing it right here
1:41:55
and now I'm apparently supposed to shut up and say it's OK.
1:42:00
I don't think so. But for some reason a bunch of
1:42:03
guys hang out together and you do this stuff.
1:42:06
You do horrible. Things do what?
1:42:07
Like what? Like what?
1:42:10
Yeah, like what? Sweet dweller.
1:42:11
Come on in, buddy. Come on in.
1:42:12
What? What horrible thing do you see
1:42:14
me doing, for example, you know, with the people who say stupid
1:42:17
stuff like. Christian Carpenter Well, I
1:42:20
guess whatever the hell you want to call it.
1:42:22
My point is, any here, Christian Carpenter, you come in.
1:42:25
Any of you guys come in? But I mostly want to see
1:42:28
Basement Dweller and Brett Keene come in right now.
1:42:31
Come on, you know basement. Dweller doesn't make.
1:42:33
Appearances. Wrong.
1:42:34
He doesn't make. And I doxed myself right
1:42:37
remember him saying that. You remember that?
1:42:40
Yes, Bruce, but let's stick with the the the comment you just
1:42:43
made. Let's work on one we.
1:42:45
Can you said that people, the people, the the guys that I hang
1:42:48
out with do horrible stuff? What horrible things do they do?
1:42:51
OK, so let's let's go with Ryan. Let's just do that.
1:42:55
You're asking me. So Ryan says I doxed myself.
1:42:58
And then the Christian Carpenter and a few others will say, Yep,
1:43:01
Yep, that's what he did. Bruce doxed himself.
1:43:04
And I say, OK, you know what proof Ryan has now?
1:43:07
Because on your hangout I said that was me riding my unicycle.
1:43:12
Now, when you look at the picture of me riding the
1:43:14
unicycle, did I ever need to tell anybody that was me riding?
1:43:18
Or you think it's pretty obvious that's me?
1:43:23
Obvious it's me right now. The problem is he was doxing me
1:43:28
before I rode my unicycle. There's no street signs.
1:43:32
I blurred out the the name on a on a a sign behind me.
1:43:37
There's no St. numbers. The point is, he's a damn liar,
1:43:41
and that's what pisses me off. Bruce, the only thing I might
1:43:44
agree with you is just because the information is out there in.
1:43:48
Public lie to. The other he just goes from one
1:43:50
lie to the other. I don't see Ryan lying about the
1:43:55
information being availed if he's if he's think that the
1:43:58
information is available. Wait a minute.
1:44:01
That's one thing he. Says that I doxed myself.
1:44:06
I always back doxing myself. If there's no streets, if
1:44:09
there's no street signs, if there's no numbers and there's
1:44:14
the sign in the background is blurred out.
1:44:16
How did I dox myself? Wait, didn't you admit that it
1:44:20
wasn't blurred out before, but you blurred it out later?
1:44:22
I took the video. The camera was sitting on a
1:44:25
tripod. I rode my unicycle.
1:44:28
What? Are you saying that that
1:44:28
information was enabled before you blurred it?
1:44:31
Out. Do you understand this?
1:44:33
Let me explain how it worked. I looked at the unicycle.
1:44:37
It was easy because I'm riding my unicycle down.
1:44:39
This lines up out of my way. So all I had to do was blur the
1:44:43
sign out in the video footage. You can't see it at any time
1:44:47
that I'm doing that because I don't.
1:44:49
My face isn't in front of it, so it never even messes it up.
1:44:52
The funny thing is Brian immediately puts up the video
1:44:54
and says, well look, there's the name of the restaurant.
1:44:57
And basement dweller doxes me too.
1:44:59
Whatever. Holy your holy Jesus basement
1:45:02
dweller, living a godly life doxing people.
1:45:04
Hold on a second. I don't know if this is.
1:45:08
I don't know if this is basement dweller or if it's.
1:45:11
Somebody but go. Ahead and say what you got to
1:45:13
say and I got the finger on the bottom.
1:45:16
You want to act crazy, whoever you are.
1:45:18
I don't. Know I heard you.
1:45:20
I heard you wanted me to come in, so I came in.
1:45:22
This is you. This is you basement dweller.
1:45:26
It could be. The basement feller.
1:45:29
No, it's this basement dweller, the guy on the side chat, same
1:45:32
guy. Yeah, basement.
1:45:34
I got my finger on the trigger just to let you know.
1:45:36
No, I'm not going to say anything bad.
1:45:38
I mean my name is Basement Feller.
1:45:40
I mean, you can't see my name, but that's that's what it.
1:45:44
Is all right. Well, if you're the same guy
1:45:46
that's been accusing me of this stuff, then how about basement
1:45:50
dweller in the side chat? Let us know whether it's you or
1:45:53
not. You're not basement dweller
1:45:55
though, right? You're a basement.
1:45:56
Feller, I thought I miss. I must have misheard you.
1:45:58
I thought you. Said, are you, are you here?
1:46:01
Oh, OK. So you're not the guy in the
1:46:03
side chat, you're not the guy with the dweller channel, no.
1:46:07
No, no, I'm not funny. So wait, So what is your
1:46:10
position, Mr. Filler? What's your position like?
1:46:14
Are you Are you a Christian or atheist?
1:46:17
Yes, I am a Christian. I'm a part of the praise
1:46:19
community, Yes I am. Oh, that's OK, I was going to
1:46:23
say. That.
1:46:24
What is the difference between a Christian and a non Christian
1:46:29
between when it comes to living in sin?
1:46:32
What is the difference? You talking to me or?
1:46:35
Yeah, yeah. I'm asking you, what is the
1:46:37
difference between, say, a Christian and an atheist when it
1:46:39
comes to living in sin? What's the difference?
1:46:43
The difference is the well, see, here's the here's my here's what
1:46:51
I say is the difference between myself and the free gracer.
1:46:55
We both believe that Christian sin however, they say that
1:47:02
there's no necessarily obligation to stop sinning or
1:47:06
even conviction from the Holy Spirit when we sin, because
1:47:10
there's no. Where in the Bible does?
1:47:12
Where in the Bible do you see that the Holy Spirit convicts
1:47:16
us? Oh man, you got the First
1:47:19
Corinthians chapter 10. OK, read it.
1:47:21
I'd love to see it actually. If you do see it, then my next
1:47:25
question will be why don't you guys live by and why do you
1:47:28
reject? One second.
1:47:30
Period, because you should hold. On let me let me dig it up real
1:47:33
quick. Hold.
1:47:34
On OK, thanks. OK, what is it now?
1:47:36
Oh, First Corinthians 10/13? Let me dig this up real quick,
1:47:39
Joe, welcome to the room. Hey, how's it going?
1:47:44
Good, good. We're talking about anything
1:47:47
that's. Yeah, we can hear you.
1:47:49
So let's see. All right, so I'm going to put
1:47:53
this on the screen here. Hold on just a SEC.
1:47:58
OK. Just want to show you guys that
1:48:01
it's 1st Corinthians 1013. Hold on one second.
1:48:11
This is just one one verse that I often resort to going to to
1:48:15
point out conviction and how God provides a way of escape.
1:48:23
So it says First Corinthians 10/13 there have no temptation
1:48:26
taking you, but it's such as common to man, but God is
1:48:29
faithful who will not suffer you to be tempted above that you are
1:48:33
able but will excuse me with the temptation also make a way to
1:48:37
escape that you may be able to bear it.
1:48:42
So to me, what I'm seeing there is that this is not necessarily
1:48:47
it's something that man is doing in attempt to stop himself from
1:48:51
sinning against God, but rather something external that's
1:48:54
occurring as well. God is making ways of escape
1:48:59
when we are about to sin. He gives us alternatives.
1:49:02
He gets so my. Point is, if you're going to be
1:49:05
lying about people and God's given you a way of escape.
1:49:10
I mean, I think the first way to escape is not to make up stories
1:49:13
and lie. It would just be simply not to.
1:49:15
Do that right? That'd be pretty.
1:49:16
Simple, but why? But if we're seeing that people
1:49:20
are comfortable with doing this while claiming to be Christian,
1:49:25
why should anybody consider them a Christian?
1:49:28
That's that's a very good question, because that's exactly
1:49:32
the same question that we ask about people in your group, the
1:49:34
people that you hang out with, the people that you associate
1:49:37
with. Yeah, your group.
1:49:39
You know what? You know what you should really
1:49:41
better understand? You know why I'm not in your
1:49:44
group? Because I was kicked out of your
1:49:46
group. That's right.
1:49:48
Oh, give me a break. See, There you go again with
1:49:50
this victim card, man. Give me a break, Bruce, you are
1:49:53
not a victim. Come on.
1:49:55
Oh. No, no, no, no.
1:49:57
Why don't you ask Jesus as Lord, how the hell did I get kicked
1:50:00
out of your group and why? There is no group for you to get
1:50:03
kicked out of. Sure.
1:50:05
Why did you call me Brucifer? Why did you call me this?
1:50:08
Why that's? A name that was given to you
1:50:09
decade, decades ago. Why?
1:50:12
Because. I would.
1:50:13
Say it wasn't by Jill, it wasn't by me.
1:50:15
You shouldn't be treating people this way.
1:50:17
You shouldn't be I. Thought it was Rand Campbell.
1:50:19
Rand Campbell gave you that name.
1:50:21
Get all pissed off at me. Rand Campbell gave him that
1:50:25
name. Why was it and why because.
1:50:28
I don't know you tell me. I don't know the history behind
1:50:30
it. You.
1:50:30
Start breaking, Campbell accused.
1:50:32
Out being a friend, that's the one.
1:50:33
That separated you. Didn't he?
1:50:36
Yeah, that's right, Rand Campbell said.
1:50:37
I. Was.
1:50:39
A Bruce, Bruce, the people that the people that go to Dave and
1:50:42
Smokey's channel, we all have different opinions on regarding
1:50:46
soteriology and all these kinds of things none of us agree with.
1:50:50
I mean, we have stronger disagreements with each other
1:50:52
than you guys in the Free Grace side do with each other.
1:50:56
OK? But yet we managed to still
1:50:59
engage in civil discussion and civil discord because we know
1:51:04
that we don't take it to the next level where it gets all
1:51:06
tribalistic. Sort of like what your boy Bill
1:51:09
does. You're going to do it in
1:51:11
private. Strains and sharing information
1:51:13
are. You going to tell me the way you
1:51:14
talk about free Grace isn't tribalistic?
1:51:17
Look. Man free grace is definitely.
1:51:19
Tribalistic Jesus. And they believe it's wrong to
1:51:21
send the lit treat people bad. What more do you want?
1:51:26
But they have a very tribalistic mindset when it comes to the
1:51:30
word free grace, for example. They keep, they get all happy
1:51:33
and joy. Look, when we say that Jesus
1:51:35
died in the cross, he rose from the grave and that salvific
1:51:39
state that's offered to us, that's given to us is not given
1:51:42
to us by any effort on our end. They say Amen to that, but they
1:51:46
have to arbitrarily label it. It's shove it down your your
1:51:50
throat by labeling it free grace.
1:51:53
Do you see what I mean? And if you don't say free grace,
1:51:55
if you don't say those two words, then you are preaching a
1:51:58
false gospel, even though you essentially believe in the same
1:52:01
exact thing. I would say.
1:52:03
That's tribalistic, my friend. That's a cult.
1:52:06
I think Jack Smack pushes at the hardest.
1:52:09
Yeah, big time. And I do see others.
1:52:12
Dude. Dude is wrong.
1:52:13
OK. And obviously Jack Smack says
1:52:15
I'm not saved, so whatever. I could really care less because
1:52:18
Jack Smack says everybody's. Right, right.
1:52:20
Exactly. And nobody cares.
1:52:22
I told you, you have to be retarded to take.
1:52:24
Yeah, I'm not going to like it doesn't matter, but.
1:52:26
Well, let me, let me, let me ask basement fella, what what?
1:52:29
What say you? I mean, you said you're of the
1:52:31
free grace, free grace camp. If I believe in Jesus Christ,
1:52:34
that he died in the cross, he rose from the grave and I'm
1:52:36
saved through no effort of my own, but I reject the phrase
1:52:41
free grace. Am I still saved?
1:52:46
Yes, I mean, look, let me just clarify, I never said I was a
1:52:50
part of the Free Grace camp. I just said I was a part of the
1:52:53
praises community. But I agree the Free Grace
1:52:57
label, it becomes a denomination, it becomes a
1:53:00
religion like any other denominations or religions.
1:53:04
So that for that reason, I don't really, I don't claim it like
1:53:08
that like I'm Free Grace. I agree of.
1:53:11
Course, obviously there is a thing called grace, of course.
1:53:15
Sorry, what's his name? I can't see his name on the
1:53:17
screen. Bethel.
1:53:18
He's taking on the name Basement Feller so I don't I don't know
1:53:22
who he is though. Yeah, we got a lot of people
1:53:24
coming out of the basement these days.
1:53:26
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
1:53:27
And we had a couple of them in my last stream that came out so.
1:53:33
But Brett, welcome back. Welcome back.
1:53:35
Yeah. Why are you riding?
1:53:37
Here I've got a little bit of energy.
1:53:39
My wife gave me some ibuprofen and some coffee.
1:53:42
I think I can handle a little bit of gay day here.
1:53:44
Hey, you went there. Last night, Brett.
1:53:47
So don't sit here and whine, buddy.
1:53:49
And you and you've kicked me. So come on, you're saying, why
1:53:52
do I ride a unicycle? Yeah, I was just wondering, why
1:53:55
do you ride a unicycle? I I always like riding
1:53:58
unicycles. I like most anything with
1:54:00
wheels. I guess you know.
1:54:03
Bicycle. I love bicycles.
1:54:06
Why? Well, it doesn't.
1:54:07
You don't have to a horn or anything when you go right?
1:54:10
What's that? You have like a horn or you just
1:54:13
ride as like a clown thing. You just.
1:54:15
Proper unicycle if it didn't have the little baby horn horn
1:54:18
horn. No, I think a unicycle pretty
1:54:21
much. I liked riding them on dirt
1:54:22
hills and up and down steps and and around, you know, and stuff.
1:54:26
I don't know. I just, I grew up.
1:54:29
I learned how to ride a unicycle and I rode a little.
1:54:31
Do you have a video? Do you have any videos of it?
1:54:35
Currently, I don't think this guy has a.
1:54:37
Video does he? Yeah, yeah, this guy has a video
1:54:42
of me riding it just in front of my household, but I'm kind of
1:54:44
old though to be riding it, but whatever.
1:54:46
Yeah, yeah, I wrote it. Oh well.
1:54:50
You know, you thought. Yeah, I just like it, you know?
1:54:54
I mean, I like stuff with wheels, you know, I don't know,
1:54:56
Motorcycles, whatever, I don't know.
1:54:58
I like them. It's fun, you know, It's yeah.
1:55:06
Well, the, the, the fact of the matter is, you know, going back
1:55:11
to open forum, I think my Smokies and Dave's are flat out
1:55:19
open forums, even Brett's too. Yeah, Brett, by the way, check
1:55:22
out Brett's channel too. He has open streams as well.
1:55:24
So, you know, don't be afraid and check him out as well.
1:55:27
He's got. Bruce, Bruce is correct.
1:55:29
I was interviewing Rob Reed and and yesterday I did put him out
1:55:33
because I did want the interview to get turned into what's
1:55:36
happening right now. You were.
1:55:37
Talking about me bro. If you talked about me, talk to
1:55:40
Rob. If you talk to him and ask him,
1:55:43
you will hear him tell you if he's honest with you, that I
1:55:46
asked him to be the peacemaker between US and work things out.
1:55:50
Yes, I've been goofy tonight, but if you talk to him, you'll
1:55:53
see that I actually said, look, is there any way you can talk to
1:55:56
Bruce and so? I'm not going to back down.
1:56:00
It was like 2-3 years ago you started this crap up and you
1:56:04
lied about me and I don't like it and I just.
1:56:08
All right. So you're still going to go that
1:56:09
route? Wait, wait, don't let.
1:56:11
Me get back. Down.
1:56:12
Wait, wait, wait, wait, Bruce. So, Bruce, what about?
1:56:15
Recent lire and you said what? Did Brett say anything
1:56:18
disparaging Bruce? Did Brett say anything
1:56:21
disparaging about you recently, like this week or last week?
1:56:25
When he started to bullshit in here because I was in here and I
1:56:28
just said look, I don't want to hear your crap basically.
1:56:31
After all, he lied about me and made-up a bunch of bullshit
1:56:35
like. One, what did he say that was I
1:56:36
don't like? Beckel, Beckel.
1:56:38
I'll be honest. They're lying and they kind of
1:56:41
listen them call me a liar. I did.
1:56:43
Call. You are a liar Brett.
1:56:44
You lied. Like that?
1:56:45
Call him a cock gobbler, I will admit that.
1:56:49
And that's listen to Beckel laughing.
1:56:53
And you last. You told well anybody that
1:56:54
writes on the unicycle, obviously cockney it.
1:56:58
Caught me off guard. Suck your balls in the name of.
1:57:03
Jesus. No gobble.
1:57:05
Gobble's different than suckers. Why?
1:57:07
Are you so sensitive, man? Come.
1:57:09
On Hey Bruce Tell. Me.
1:57:10
Why would I want to be like you, Bruce?
1:57:13
Stop riding for a second. Why would I want to be like you?
1:57:16
And you too, Jill, who worship broke.
1:57:19
Why would I want to be like you? Have you forgiven Brett for what
1:57:24
he did to you 2-3 years ago? Have you forgiven him?
1:57:26
Because that seems to be what, actually 10?
1:57:29
Years ago, Jill. No, no.
1:57:31
No, you're lying. 10 years ago you bought for.
1:57:36
Brettt Brett is saying it was 10 years ago and it wasn't even
1:57:40
him. How?
1:57:40
About you how? About you, Beckel?
1:57:43
How about? Beckel gives gives Brett time
1:57:47
equal time. 10 years ago. You can moderate and figure out.
1:57:51
Who's going? It's going to need to moderate
1:57:53
because you're supposed forgive as a Christian.
1:57:55
You claim to be a Christian, right?
1:57:57
I'm going to do that right now, ladies and gentlemen, right now
1:58:01
you're. Not you forget people lie.
1:58:04
You allow people have you? Forgiven.
1:58:16
I will forgive him. I will forgive him you to allow
1:58:24
people. To know so you don't have
1:58:26
gotcha, yeah. I'm willing to forgive and
1:58:30
forget. Your feelings are hurt, so you.
1:58:32
Don't have to know I want to eat out of breath.
1:58:37
And he wants to stand. Bruce.
1:58:41
Bruce 20 years ago. Tell me, who's for the crew?
1:58:46
Bruce. He's willing.
1:58:47
You went through, Do you guys like wise?
1:58:53
Excuse me, Excuse me. Excuse me.
1:58:54
Excuse. Me.
1:59:03
That's Rob. If you don't mind.
1:59:08
The corpse still has the floor anyway.
1:59:15
Anyway, Bruce, I got a question for you.
1:59:18
What? Do you want?
1:59:19
Do you accept Brett saying to you that he forgives you?
1:59:24
That he what? Is that what you said, Brett?
1:59:27
Yes, I said. I am willing to forgive him and
1:59:29
forget and let bygones be bygones.
1:59:32
That's a bunch of crap. First you'd have to tell me what
1:59:35
I did. Wrong.
1:59:35
All right, so you're a cock, I told you.
1:59:38
Gee. Look, he can't even tell me what
1:59:41
did I do? Wrong.
1:59:41
I just told you I'd be willing to.
1:59:43
And he said. So I mean, what am I supposed?
1:59:45
To do about that. Excuse me Brett, no, no, stop
1:59:48
your bullshit. What did I do wrong #1?
1:59:52
First of all, the way you perceived this is totally ass
1:59:56
backwards. Your reality isn't the same as
1:59:58
actual abductive reality. You got into it with Yokup.
2:00:02
You got into it with Mighty Winds.
2:00:04
That wasn't my thing back then. You got mad because I told you
2:00:08
that Yokob did not want to talk to you, Norris wife, because
2:00:11
they're offended by you. That's not my problem.
2:00:14
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're lying.
2:00:16
You're lying again, Brett. You're lying.
2:00:18
How am I lying? They fucking?
2:00:19
Hate you because you said and then basement dweller even added
2:00:23
to it that I went after his wife and then you started this
2:00:27
bullshit about her being a lesbian and saying that I gave
2:00:31
her a bunch of crap and you're a damn.
2:00:34
Liar and human being. For calling you moron, I
2:00:46
apologize for calling you a moron.
2:00:49
OK, OK, let the point. Is you're just making lies up
2:00:52
and then you say you apologize, you forgive me like.
2:00:56
This is nuts. Let let.
2:00:57
Let let I mean. Let let Brett go for a minute
2:01:00
and then we'll hear your point. This was actually, this is
2:01:03
actually something I never took personal.
2:01:06
It didn't get on my nerves or anything.
2:01:08
What happened was, is that Yokup and his wife, they were what you
2:01:12
call hyper Christians. They were very sensitive.
2:01:15
They believed the entire world was demonically possessed.
2:01:18
So this guy here decided to make videos where he pretends to be
2:01:22
demonically possessed at them. I actually got a kick out of it.
2:01:26
Back then I was like, look at him go.
2:01:29
I also enjoyed listening to him play guitar.
2:01:31
I didn't hate Bruce at all. But Bruce comes to me one time
2:01:34
and he goes, I want to talk to yoke up and his wife and all
2:01:38
that. And I said they don't like you,
2:01:39
They're offended. At that point they didn't like
2:01:42
anybody. They ended up leaving the
2:01:43
Internet years ago. So now whenever he runs into me,
2:01:47
he's like, brat, why don't you bring them in?
2:01:50
Why don't you just tell the truth?
2:01:51
Tell the truth about what? There's a lot of people that
2:01:53
don't like Bruce. How the hell am I supposed to
2:01:56
referee and get them to show up to talk to him about it?
2:02:00
You get it. That sounds accurate.
2:02:03
Man, that smells like. Exactly the experience, everyone
2:02:06
lying. I'll tell you where he's lying
2:02:08
and I don't appreciate it. You start.
2:02:10
I'll tell you what, I bet you guys all $100 I will give you,
2:02:14
right, I will give you. Facebook.
2:02:17
Message him and ask him how he feels about Bruce.
2:02:20
He'll he'll instantly say. I don't care.
2:02:23
Excuse me, Beck. We'll just mute him.
2:02:25
All right, let's hear Bruce. Let's just get this out the way.
2:02:27
Go ahead, Bruce. The point is he had made this
2:02:30
story out. He said that I attacked Yokop's
2:02:33
wife and that is not true. Then he he said he was talking
2:02:38
with him and all this stuff and communicating with him and, and
2:02:41
then he says he didn't talk to him for 10 years.
2:02:43
Like the story keeps changing. The whole point is he made this
2:02:46
crap up about his wife and that didn't happen.
2:02:50
And that's when he wanted me to talk with him.
2:02:54
And finally I said, OK, bring them on.
2:02:56
Bring them in your channel. And talk with them.
2:02:58
And now he's turned it all around.
2:03:00
So don't pull this crap right. And no, I don't need.
2:03:03
To mock them and it offended them.
2:03:05
OK, let me let me explain. When I say the word, let me go.
2:03:09
OK, one more thing. The woman or anything?
2:03:13
Let me just throw one more thing in here that I'd like to explain
2:03:16
a little bit. One thing that he did do, there
2:03:19
was a guy named Pastor David, I think it was Javid.
2:03:22
Anyhow, he had asked him, excuse me, Brett, shut up, shut up.
2:03:27
Brett. Let me just explain some of what
2:03:29
happened here. So you're saying why did I turn
2:03:32
on the guy or get upset with the guy?
2:03:34
Let me explain one of the things that happened.
2:03:36
So with this Pastor Javid guy Yokup said that if God told him
2:03:43
to kill his wife, he would. And he told So he got on this
2:03:48
guy as Pastor David because he said he wouldn't do it, that if
2:03:53
God told him he wouldn't, he's saying he wouldn't kill his
2:03:56
wife. And Yokup said he wasn't a true
2:03:58
Christian. OK, there was some issues.
2:04:02
That was one incident and then another one where he where he
2:04:05
had this specter of Lysol this can and then talking about
2:04:09
destroying atheists got people all pissed off with that too.
2:04:12
Look man, whatever I didn't appreciate.
2:04:15
Wait. Bruce, Bruce, is it true,
2:04:16
though, about what Brett said about these people not liking
2:04:19
you, though? Because that's.
2:04:20
All we're pointing out, Brett is saying, like me, Brett is the.
2:04:23
Middle man. Here it was like years ago, it
2:04:26
was many, of course, like no, no, no, no, no, no, Brett,
2:04:31
that's not true because. What is that true or it's not
2:04:36
hold back was. Fucking true.
2:04:38
I'm going to I want to straighten this much of it out.
2:04:41
Last time I was on talking with you, what pissed me off was you
2:04:45
kept saying that I went after the white just like basement
2:04:49
dweller over here was safe. And what's unique is that when I
2:04:53
admitted that I gave him a hard time, which again is kind of
2:04:56
like me riding my unicycle and yelling look, look, it's him.
2:04:59
It's like, no kidding. Yes, I gave him a hard time.
2:05:03
That was many years ago, but nevertheless, that's what I did.
2:05:06
Yeah, that's how I dealt with it.
2:05:07
I thought, Christians acting like this is sick.
2:05:10
At any rate, you don't need to make up stories and say that I
2:05:14
attacked his wife when it's not true.
2:05:16
And then when I say that, yeah, I gave the dude a hard time,
2:05:19
don't sit and say, see, I told you the truth.
2:05:22
I showed you the last of a while back where the wife said she
2:05:26
didn't want to talk to you, he said he didn't want to talk to.
2:05:29
You that was. The same kind of scenario you're
2:05:31
in. You even smile at Smokey.
2:05:35
Suddenly you're a fucking Nazi, you know?
2:05:39
Yeah, pretty much. Mr. Beckel, you must have a mind
2:05:43
of some reason, right? Of some reason, Yeah.
2:05:47
Yeah. OK.
2:05:48
OK, Beckel. So I'm going to accept that you
2:05:50
have a mind of reason. Yeah, I do now.
2:05:53
Because they don't like me considering how them, you know,
2:05:58
they and I, how we got along or didn't get along, considering
2:06:01
that and the way I treated them, the way they treated others,
2:06:04
whatever, I think it's be truly under obviously, obviously
2:06:09
understandable. They wouldn't like me right now.
2:06:12
Does that have anything to do with Brett's initial initial
2:06:17
accusation that I attacked the wife for being a lesbian and
2:06:20
such and this and that? No.
2:06:23
What do you think, Beckel? Well, my concern is what?
2:06:27
What did Brett do that was so bad that you needed to hold this
2:06:31
grudge for over for 10 years? You haven't figured that out
2:06:35
yet. Why?
2:06:38
No. I haven't.
2:06:39
He's you. Brought up the issue of that
2:06:42
couple. So Brett talked about that
2:06:44
couple and what that issue was and the issue was with you.
2:06:48
What what has Brett got to do with it?
2:06:50
Like what? Have you ever heard me, Veckel
2:06:52
and Jill and all the times that you've ever talked to me and
2:06:55
stuff with bruises in the room? Do I even bother bringing him
2:06:59
up? Have I?
2:06:59
Have you heard the words yoke up?
2:07:01
People come out of my neck unless he brings it up.
2:07:03
Come on and let. Me figure this out OK Brett so.
2:07:07
Brett's usually pretty laid back type of guy.
2:07:11
He might have some people might have some beef with him, man,
2:07:13
but I don't see him going on campaigns such as what I see the
2:07:17
GNG streaming, do you know, or the praise the I Am channel
2:07:20
dude, Yeah. I'll tell you what I understand,
2:07:23
Beckel, that you, I know you disagree with some of the free
2:07:27
gracers, but you going after that free gracer's wife and
2:07:32
giving her all that shit and calling her a lesbian and a
2:07:35
whore and a bitch and a slut and everything, I think that was
2:07:38
wrong of you, Beckel. Why did you do that?
2:07:41
I see what you're doing. You doing?
2:07:43
Hold. On you don't like this.
2:07:50
I see what you're trying to do. I see what you're trying to do.
2:07:53
It doesn't. You heard my response.
2:07:55
Not once did I say anything about whore, bitch or any words
2:07:59
like that. The woman is offended by Bruce
2:08:02
and just doesn't want to be in the same proximity.
2:08:04
As well. Bruce.
2:08:06
Bruce Address. That let me fix it, OK, Beckel,
2:08:10
I know you didn't say all that. All you did right said that the
2:08:14
lady is a lesbian. You gave her a whole raft that
2:08:17
shit because do you have? Any receipts?
2:08:20
What lady? Who are you talking about?
2:08:22
What are your receipts? Don't even.
2:08:24
Entertain it unless he can show we don't need receipts.
2:08:26
No, no, no. I'm practicing.
2:08:29
I am practicing now. Bruce, are you still?
2:08:32
Are you doing some sort of weird analogy?
2:08:35
Practicing being a true question.
2:08:38
I am practicing being a true question move.
2:08:40
On to something else. Please, I I didn't even mention
2:08:43
that he was sorry. I was no offense, but I never
2:08:48
even mentioned her being a lesbian.
2:08:50
That's. Absolutely making it up like he
2:08:52
makes both of the lies that he accusations.
2:08:56
Did anybody in here hear me say anybody was a fucking lesbian?
2:09:01
No, not even once. Yeah, three years you.
2:09:03
Don't have any receipts for that that claim, so we don't.
2:09:06
Really three years ago that she was a.
2:09:08
Former lesbian Why don't we turn to?
2:09:10
Subscription being a Christian. Why don't we turn to some
2:09:14
scripture about being a Christian?
2:09:15
Lady. OK, well, well.
2:09:16
Gee, Lady, Gee, Lady's in the side cat.
2:09:19
Let's see how the line works. Gee Lady is in the house.
2:09:24
What's going on? Gee Lady?
2:09:28
Matthew 18 Let's read about you're you're afraid, you're
2:09:31
afraid. Okay, let's.
2:09:33
See. Needs to be an actual not to
2:09:38
make up accusations about someone for 10 years.
2:09:41
A line works. Let's see a line.
2:09:43
And have no receipts to show. I.
2:09:48
Make you crap up with that. I'm I'm even more convinced,
2:09:51
Bruce, that you feed off the drama, man.
2:09:54
OK, OK, we're fine. We got drama, so let's see how
2:09:57
well. The IT does.
2:09:58
Make a stream a little bit more interesting.
2:09:59
Let's see how well you can show the receipts for that lie.
2:10:02
OK, I'll have receipt for this. Let's.
2:10:04
See how well you can do that? What lie.
2:10:06
That's what we'll wait for. No, no.
2:10:10
Well, what are you talking about?
2:10:12
Tell me what you're talking about it.
2:10:13
You gotta go. First, you're you're.
2:10:16
I'll. Explain you're a sitcom.
2:10:17
Drama filled sitcom Only you last for three.
2:10:20
Hours. Now that was an awesome bass
2:10:30
line right there. Oh yeah, here comes first night.
2:10:36
He's going to whip out his guitar.
2:10:43
See, now that's the Bruce. That's the Bruce that I like.
2:10:45
I would like to see him come in here and and just just jam it up
2:10:48
with some guitar instead of going over there talking about
2:10:50
everybody. I want to know the lie that that
2:10:53
Jill is talking about and he wants receipts for.
2:10:55
What are you even talking? To like them, dummy.
2:10:57
That's me calling you calling for proof of your.
2:11:00
Claim you know what are you talking about?
2:11:02
Receipts for what? They claim that I was going
2:11:05
around calling somebody. Veckel, if you haven't noticed
2:11:09
yet. Oh my God, come on, I did my.
2:11:13
Face for what you're. Claiming that's a lot, I trusted
2:11:16
Veckel. But I understand.
2:11:18
But Bruce. You are actually claiming wait,
2:11:20
wait, wait. Bruce wasn't actually saying
2:11:23
that. That's what I've done, right?
2:11:24
You you're kind of using some sort of analogy, right?
2:11:30
That's what that's what we're asking, but that's what we're
2:11:32
asking versus. Right.
2:11:34
Do not believe you based on your reputation.
2:11:36
You need to show receipts for everything you claim from now.
2:11:39
On OK. All right, OK, fine.
2:11:41
So receipts. OK, here we go.
2:11:43
Yeah, because all we've heard Brett say is that these people
2:11:46
did not like you. That's it.
2:11:49
Let's just get down, OK, We'll get.
2:11:51
Just get down to the receipts, otherwise we.
2:11:54
Don't. We'll go to the next one.
2:11:55
Brett. Did you accuse me of going after
2:12:00
Yokovs wife? I told you that according to
2:12:04
their own words, they're offended and do not.
2:12:07
Want to? Oh my God, your story sure has
2:12:10
mellowed out, hasn't it? Because you're bossing.
2:12:12
This is what I've been saying. I burn over Vengel.
2:12:17
You're a liar. Yeah, that's what, cocaine.
2:12:21
So, Bruce, is he wrong? And do you have the receipts?
2:12:24
He's a liar, OK? All right, where's the receipt?
2:12:27
So let's go now to Basement dweller.
2:12:31
Did he say this? What do?
2:12:34
You think this night jumped? As the mother, well, I have the
2:12:37
unsuspected Christian. Did.
2:12:39
He say this on your channel or was it on his channel?
2:12:42
Get this now. We're trying to get receipts.
2:12:44
Before you jump through accusing.
2:12:45
Another other brother in Let's get receipts for this.
2:12:48
Did he say it on your channel or on his channel?
2:12:50
Basement dweller No. No, no, no, no, Sir.
2:12:52
Instead of jumping to another Christian who you want to
2:12:55
falsely accuse because we know who your father is who's been
2:12:58
doing that from the beginning, let's show receipts for what you
2:13:02
claimed about Brett. Did he, did he say this?
2:13:04
Did he say this on your channel or was it on his channel?
2:13:07
It was on his channel. It was on his channel.
2:13:09
OK, well let's look and see around about how many months
2:13:12
ago, How many years ago was this this?
2:13:15
You still have your phone around that that Smokey was still
2:13:17
around at the given time, so it was probably what, like 3 years
2:13:20
ago? Three years ago.
2:13:21
OK, towards the end when when all.
2:13:23
Right. So here's what I do.
2:13:24
I go, I go back to Brett's channel and look for the videos
2:13:28
three years ago and find the video and come back with those
2:13:30
receipts. Did we?
2:13:30
Have this argument about 3 years ago, Brad, do you remember it?
2:13:35
You've been bringing the set up over and over and you've.
2:13:38
Got no version of. I had no reason to bring it up
2:13:41
until you brought it up, so put bullshit.
2:13:43
You know, you know what I realized here that if you had
2:13:46
any evidence of this, it would be all over Bill's channel and
2:13:49
everybody else's channel. Exactly.
2:13:56
They act like they care about. Women.
2:13:58
And that's the whole point, dude.
2:13:59
You're just a liar, Brett, that's all.
2:14:02
So you got a video clip? You got anything?
2:14:04
Maybe out of it now. So the whole point now that I'm
2:14:08
a go to move at the basement dweller who's presently doing
2:14:11
it, you guys don't want to hear about it, right?
2:14:14
Now we don't want to hear about any more lies.
2:14:16
Not, not really. So.
2:14:17
Lying is OK with you, right? Lying is.
2:14:20
OK, see what I mean? Lying is OK with.
2:14:24
You. Lying's OK with Jill.
2:14:28
How do you guys claim to be Christians when you stand up
2:14:32
for? Lies.
2:14:33
You're the one that's lying we're standing up for.
2:14:36
The we're the one challenging you to provide receipts.
2:14:40
We're not standing up for lies, OK?
2:14:42
We're asking you if you can, if you can prove to us that your
2:14:48
position, what you say is true, and we deny it, then we are
2:14:51
defending lies. But you haven't.
2:14:53
You haven't. You know what?
2:14:56
What if I were to go back in your videos when I first started
2:14:59
talking with Brett and the story got changed from then till now?
2:15:04
What if that happened? That's possible, isn't?
2:15:06
It and we could blame it on the Mandela Effect then?
2:15:08
No, probably Mandela Effect. You're talking to a totally
2:15:11
different version of Brett team. So let's change the topic and
2:15:14
move on you. Know what?
2:15:15
Maybe I will do that if you don't mind.
2:15:17
I'll go back look at your videos then and see see what happens.
2:15:22
Go ahead, we'll see. I'll tell you what, I bet
2:15:25
everybody in here 100 bucks, Bruce, ain't no fines yet.
2:15:28
You know why? Because it never happened.
2:15:31
Because you never accused me of attacking Yokov's wife.
2:15:34
You guys got PayPal and cash? Yep, 100 bucks.
2:15:40
I. Don't know, Bruce, man, Brett,
2:15:42
Brett sounds awfully confident in, in, in dishing out that
2:15:46
$100. I, I, I want my ticket, a couple
2:15:48
of 100 bucks for me. Superman's getting ready to come
2:15:51
out this week. So you'd think basement.
2:15:53
Gets on popcorn. Truth.
2:15:54
Yeah, think Ryan's telling the truth.
2:15:57
You really do believe that, don't you?
2:15:59
Ryan's telling the truth about what?
2:16:01
Everything. You don't think he's lying like
2:16:03
hell about a whole bunch of stuff?
2:16:05
Like what? Give me an example of what he's
2:16:06
lying about. What about the the idea that I
2:16:08
doxed myself? OK, here's what I thought I
2:16:12
heard him say. He said that that video of you
2:16:14
on a unicycle already had nothing blurred out prior to you
2:16:20
telling people that it was blurred out.
2:16:23
Well, if the video he has in the video I uploaded from the very
2:16:27
beginning had it blurred out, you know he's a damn liar, don't
2:16:29
you? That's probably why it is when I
2:16:32
talked to you about it, because he's probably pointed this out
2:16:34
to you multiple times and you still keep denying it.
2:16:38
I keep denying what? The fact that that video with
2:16:41
the blurred out, you know, edit edit it with the blurred edited
2:16:47
edit didn't have that at first. Damn, you're liar too, aren't
2:16:53
you That cool? That's what.
2:16:54
He's what? What?
2:16:55
What bullshit. You know you're all fucking
2:16:57
liars. I'm telling you what he said to
2:16:59
me. I give up.
2:17:01
I totally give. Oh well, there you go folks.
2:17:05
I think I should get paid 100 bucks for free when they close
2:17:08
that. That's what I think.
2:17:09
Everybody in chat is in my description.
2:17:13
You should get some sort of compensation to have to deal
2:17:16
with that garbage man My gosh. And you know what?
2:17:20
You know what's sad about it? People were goofy back then like
2:17:23
they are nowadays, where people would be silly and mock each
2:17:27
other and all that. I didn't.
2:17:28
I didn't care then, I don't Care now.
2:17:31
The only thing is he wanted to talk to the guy and I said,
2:17:34
look, guy didn't want to talk to you, neither does his wife.
2:17:37
And he just can't put that out of his mind.
2:17:39
What am I supposed to do, use telepathic X-Men abilities and
2:17:43
just draw him into the damn room?
2:17:47
Yeah, this is the this is what Bruce reminds me of every time I
2:17:50
see him pop up into somebody's. Drink.
2:17:51
I contemplated suicide. It got really bad.
2:17:54
It's horrifying. I'm so sorry.
2:17:59
It's overwhelming. It's really hard.
2:18:03
That's rough. That's what I think of.
2:18:05
That's what I think of Bruce every time he comes to a row.
2:18:26
The world's smallest violin right there, folks.
2:18:29
But yeah. Can I offer a suggestion to?
2:18:32
I've heard a little bit about what you guys were talking about
2:18:34
earlier about the Ryan thing and some advice.
2:18:37
Folks, if you don't want people to see where you live, don't
2:18:40
take pictures of yourself in your fucking house.
2:18:44
Here's what here's my understanding.
2:18:46
I think that video that he's talking about was already
2:18:49
available somewhere else and it was unedited without the blurred
2:18:52
content. And then I think Ryan got access
2:18:58
to it somehow. It was it was public access at
2:19:00
1st and then Ryan made it known to the public that this is
2:19:05
publicly accessible. And then when Bruce saw Ryan
2:19:10
talk about that, then he accused Ryan of doxing him and then he
2:19:16
went back and then blurred out that, you know, content that was
2:19:19
in that video. At least that's my understanding
2:19:21
that I Bruce might be here and say that I got it all wrong.
2:19:24
He'll accuse me of lying. I'm just simply reiterating what
2:19:28
I believe I've heard from both sides.
2:19:30
They'll. Come back in and tell you got it
2:19:32
wrong. They'll surely come back in.
2:19:35
So so if we say docs three times, he might reappear, but I
2:19:38
know Brett is hardly he's strongly against that right now.
2:19:41
So but I don't, I don't mind. I don't blame you.
2:19:48
But everybody who knows Bruce, this is what he's known for,
2:19:52
constantly whining and complaining, you know, just like
2:19:56
Bill does and every one of his streams has a flake.
2:20:00
I'll be right back, guys. I'm being summoned by my little
2:20:02
one. Be right back.
2:20:05
To be fair, Jill, the only thing that's really irritating about
2:20:09
any of this for me is I enjoy coming into Beckel's room and
2:20:12
hearing what he's got to say, his perspective on theology,
2:20:16
philosophy and the entertainment value because he's a funny guy.
2:20:20
I don't want somebody coming in and just like taking over the
2:20:24
damn show and whining for hours when I came here for, you know,
2:20:28
the, the, you know, the friendship of Beckel or yourself
2:20:33
there. Jill, I hope that makes sense to
2:20:35
people out there. I just don't want to hear
2:20:37
somebody take over. Yeah, yeah.
2:20:41
Well, especially whining and complaining about something that
2:20:44
allegedly happened 10 years ago. Like, get over it.
2:20:49
I mean, he, he went on and on and on about hanging out with
2:20:55
people who claim to be Christians and yet they behave
2:20:59
contrary, do what the word of God says.
2:21:02
But here this guy is ignoring Matthew 6, ignoring Matthew 18
2:21:06
where it talks about forgiveness.
2:21:08
It's a house. So maybe he's not a Christian.
2:21:10
Maybe you're not Christian Bruce.
2:21:13
Bear with one another. Forgive any complaint you may
2:21:16
have against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.
2:21:20
Colossians 3. Maybe you're not the Christian
2:21:23
Bruce because you can't seem to do it.
2:21:25
You, Bill, can't seem to do it. You.
2:21:28
Guys. Didn't hear me though.
2:21:30
You're like a special Ed kid. You can't do it, you know You
2:21:33
don't have the capacity to do it.
2:21:35
Perhaps you're not saved? You did hear me though Jill, as
2:21:38
well as not believing, though it was hard to hear me over Bruce's
2:21:42
nonsense. I said I'm willing to forgive
2:21:44
and forget. I I was willing to go through
2:21:47
with it even though I don't feel like I'm in some kind of wrong
2:21:50
because this is his own made-up story.
2:21:52
I'm willing to shake hands and say fuck it, let's move on.
2:21:55
But he wasn't willing to do it, you heard.
2:22:00
All right, your brother sins. Rebuke him.
2:22:01
If he repents, forgive him. Even if he sins against you 7
2:22:06
times a day and seven times returns and says I repent, you
2:22:12
must forgive him. Luke 17.
2:22:15
What? What happened, Bruce?
2:22:16
I thought you were a Christian. I'm back a real quick.
2:22:19
Is this radio sphere, Is this Bruce one of his accounts, or is
2:22:23
this somebody else? I told you he'd be back.
2:22:27
I don't know. OK.
2:22:29
I think it's because, yeah, go ahead.
2:22:32
I think it might be because I've seen that same name post in a
2:22:36
bunch of comments called me a liar under that same name.
2:22:39
That's him three years ago. So that is OK.
2:22:42
Three years ago. Jill Knight.
2:22:45
Yeah, because I would not Ten. OK, I gotcha.
2:22:47
I would definitely be OK whether it's Bruce or not.
2:22:50
It doesn't matter who it is to me.
2:22:52
I definitely want to make a respond to this comment like
2:22:55
this. It absolutely fascinates me.
2:22:58
You got individuals in this community who are at the center
2:23:02
of drama, at the center of strife.
2:23:05
And whenever somebody responds to the the drama or the strife
2:23:12
that they start up or participate in the event, right?
2:23:16
They then want to turn around and lift up the persecution card
2:23:19
or the victim card and try to make it look like they're the
2:23:22
ones with the moral high ground, you know, and start calling
2:23:25
everybody. You know, you guys are not
2:23:29
acting like children of God and stuff like that.
2:23:31
But yet all you got to do is go to either praise his channel or
2:23:34
dude's channel or Bill's channel.
2:23:37
And what are they talking about? Most of the time they're talking
2:23:39
about the same thing that they're accusing us of doing,
2:23:42
you know, strife, all this other stuff, real men of God, right?
2:23:46
But yet they're over there talking all this sugar smack
2:23:48
about everybody else. OK, yeah, sure, they'll start
2:23:51
off by talking about Scripture and everything, but then it
2:23:54
eventually deviates into, you know, just a just a mess.
2:23:58
And the reason why you'll never see guys like, you know, you're
2:24:01
hardly able to see guys like me or Smokey or Ryan or Dave appear
2:24:05
on their channels is because, you know, they, well, for
2:24:09
whatever reason. But I think most of the reason
2:24:11
is because they they've, you know, blocked us, I guess in
2:24:15
some way, shape or form. I don't think I'm blocking
2:24:18
precious channel. But when I do leave comments on
2:24:21
his channel, his sycophants like to disappear.
2:24:25
My my comments all of a sudden. Especially I want to put a
2:24:29
special shout out to an individual named Michael 1611.
2:24:32
I don't know if he's somebody's socket count or not, but you're
2:24:36
a coward. So if you ever want to have a
2:24:38
debate with me, come on in. Holla at you boy, I'll talk to
2:24:41
you. You know, the way you described
2:24:43
it earlier, Beckel, it sounds like a controlling bully,
2:24:46
doesn't it? The bully doesn't leave you
2:24:48
alone, won't stop no matter how you try to rationalize.
2:24:51
They keep pushing and pushing and then finally give them the
2:24:54
people's elbow and they're like, oh, would you go and do that for
2:24:59
you? Know so.
2:25:02
Yeah, my wife, sometimes when we get into heated arguments, she
2:25:05
would, she would actually try to pull stuff like that on me and
2:25:08
it would just kind of get me upset.
2:25:09
You know, we'll be arguing, she'll be nagging or something,
2:25:12
whatever. It doesn't matter who started
2:25:13
the argument. And we'll start, you know, I
2:25:17
she'll, she'll say something really stark, really, really
2:25:21
strong and, and snarky. And then I'll respond by maybe
2:25:24
lifting my voice a little bit. She left her voice a little bit,
2:25:28
then I left my voice even more and she doesn't voice anymore.
2:25:31
And then next you know well. Wait a minute.
2:25:35
She she did what she. She she wakes her, she ready to.
2:25:44
Let her know who you are. Yeah, yeah, don't be fooled,
2:25:48
folks. And she's Korean, but she's not
2:25:50
your traditional career, man. So yeah, she ain't your
2:25:54
traditional Asian woman. So but then when I, you know,
2:25:59
start showing that I'm really frustrated with her, you know,
2:26:03
then she calms down and makes it seem like I'm the crazy 1, you
2:26:08
know, like what? Why are you yelling?
2:26:10
You know, I'm, I'm perfectly calm.
2:26:12
So what are you doing? You, you are just yelling at me
2:26:15
now when I'm, you know, yelling at back at you, all of a sudden
2:26:18
you want to act calm and make it seem like I'm, I don't know what
2:26:21
you're talking about. I don't know why getting all
2:26:24
irate, you know, and that's what these guys do.
2:26:27
It's called gaslighting. That's exactly what these guys
2:26:29
do. They want to keep poking at you,
2:26:32
keep talking about you day and night, accuse you of endorsing
2:26:37
pedophilia, accuse you of being a pedophile.
2:26:41
And then when you respond, they want to lift up the persecution
2:26:44
card. They want to lift up the holy
2:26:46
card and say, you'll say the reason why they, they're
2:26:49
attacking us is because we're representing the children of
2:26:53
God. We're presenting.
2:26:54
We're representing, you know, God, you know, it's the devil
2:26:58
that's attacking us, even though they're the ones poking the bear
2:27:00
all the time, you know, So thankfully people in my audience
2:27:05
and Smokey's audience and Dave's audience, you know, can see
2:27:09
through this garbage. We can see right through it.
2:27:10
We have a lot more intelligent people on our side than they do
2:27:13
on theirs, you know, So true. True, yeah.
2:27:18
Well, Becca, I got to ask you on a more serious note, getting
2:27:22
away from Bruce for a little bit.
2:27:24
Has things been OK for you? Because I've noticed last few
2:27:27
times have come in you've you've been mentioned some of these
2:27:31
tense scenarios you found yourself in on personal level.
2:27:35
Are you OK? Wait, what scenario?
2:27:38
Well, you, you bring up some of the issues on the wife thing and
2:27:42
I was just asking, are things OK in that area?
2:27:45
Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, in fact, I did a stream,
2:27:48
the last stream we talked about Ephesians 426.
2:27:52
You know, you know, we we sometimes get into some really,
2:27:56
really passionate arguments. But again, because of our
2:28:01
Christian values and our allegiance to Christ, we always
2:28:05
end the day on a Ephesians 426 note.
2:28:10
This is the cornerstone, as I've said in the previous stream of
2:28:17
our marriage when it comes to reconciliation.
2:28:22
So, for example, if you look at Ephesians 426, I should be able
2:28:25
to see it on the screen. But for those of you who are not
2:28:28
looking on your screen, I'll read it out to you.
2:28:30
It says be angry and sin not let not the sun go down upon your
2:28:36
wrath. So you got two things here.
2:28:38
Number one, it's OK to be angry, but don't sin while being angry.
2:28:44
And #2 don't hold a grudge. Don't let that anger carry on to
2:28:49
the next day and to the next day and to the next day.
2:28:52
Bruce. Hello, Bruce.
2:28:54
Anyway. How many moons have gone down
2:28:56
since since this happened expense have have you know, gone
2:29:01
down since this incident Bruce you're still holding on and then
2:29:04
verse 32 forgiving one another even as God for Christ sake
2:29:09
forgiving as. That's.
2:29:11
Right. Well, Beckel, I just want to let
2:29:13
you know, even though you're saying things are cool, if, if
2:29:16
there is more to this, if I'm sure Jill would be open to it
2:29:20
and talk to somebody you trust and even me if, if you feel like
2:29:23
you need to talk behind the scenes with something going on.
2:29:26
I just was worried. It just sounded like things are
2:29:28
getting kind of rough for you. Oh.
2:29:30
Oh yeah, I appreciate that. Maybe, you know, you and I can
2:29:34
have a private hangout with just the beloveds and you could give
2:29:38
me some biblical accounts, you know?
2:29:40
But anyway, I'm. Talking about that, I'm talking
2:29:43
about just being an ear man. Sometimes it's less than
2:29:46
somebody helps. Oh yeah, I know.
2:29:48
And I, I appreciate that. Yeah.
2:29:50
We, this is something we would go through every once in a while
2:29:54
where sometimes we just in a in a sour mood and, you know, we
2:29:59
get into some serious, serious arguments where we're just
2:30:03
literally yelling at each other and stuff.
2:30:05
But it never gets to a point where, you know, I'm about to
2:30:07
strangler or body slam or anything like that.
2:30:11
But you know, but it does get, you know, it has gotten in the
2:30:16
past some, some we've had some episodes where we're kind of,
2:30:20
you know, screaming at each other and stuff like that.
2:30:22
But again, as I said, you know, we, we, you know, this coming
2:30:25
August, next month will be our 19th year in marriage.
2:30:29
And again, you know, if this was more serious, we would have been
2:30:33
divorced by now a long time ago. But begin, because of our
2:30:36
allegiance to Christ, you know, we, we both worship Christ, we
2:30:42
worship God and we go by his word as our foundation for
2:30:48
morality and and you know, marital council.
2:30:53
And so Speaking of which. Americans are in the 19 years,
2:30:57
man, good man. I'll be right back.
2:30:59
I got to answer the door. Be right back.
2:31:01
All right, it's probably a Mormon Greatest conversations
2:31:04
ever. I love when Mormons come around.
2:31:08
They don't like me too much, but I love when they.
2:31:11
I like talking to him about the planet and the collab thing.
2:31:15
Oh yeah, fascinating. So you like having discussions
2:31:21
with them? I made a mistake when I first
2:31:23
met the group because I didn't know they had caffeine issues
2:31:26
and all that. I offered them coffee and I, it
2:31:29
was also snowing outside. So I was like, you want to come
2:31:32
in, have a hot drink and all that and sit down there like,
2:31:35
oh, we, we don't do that. And I'm like, what?
2:31:37
You mean you don't do that? Are you allergic or something?
2:31:40
And then they explained it to me.
2:31:41
I was like, oh, I apologize. I didn't know that was the case.
2:31:46
Yeah. I think they've been, I think
2:31:48
they told everyone to skip my door over the years.
2:31:52
I think the. Door.
2:31:54
Yeah, they don't come around. They used to.
2:31:56
I see them knocking on doors, you know, nearby, but I don't
2:32:01
see them. They won't come to my house
2:32:05
anymore. And you weren't mean to them
2:32:07
Worried, you know? No, no, I just told them the
2:32:10
truth I guess. I guess they marked and avoided
2:32:13
me. Same thing with the Jehovah
2:32:16
Witness too. We don't, we don't have it as
2:32:22
much, but boy, it seemed like it was like every week they were
2:32:25
wanting to come by and have a conversation.
2:32:28
Sometimes talking on the porch. But if it was snowing or if it
2:32:31
was super hot, I'd always be like, you want to come in
2:32:34
because I don't mind listening to folks and also sowing some
2:32:37
seeds myself if I had the opportunity.
2:32:39
But I got to be careful. There's some goonies out there,
2:32:42
you know what I mean? Can't have somebody walking up
2:32:44
claiming to be a Mormon turn out to be something else, you know
2:32:47
what I mean? Oh, there's only one group that
2:32:51
has those shirts that have but that don't have a crease in them
2:32:56
or a wrinkle. There's only one group that can
2:32:58
accomplish that, and that's a Mormon church.
2:33:00
So you see those white shirts with the little tags and ink
2:33:03
tags on? You don't have to.
2:33:05
That's the Mormon church, and they all.
2:33:09
Had AI had a weird scenario happen to me about a year ago,
2:33:13
Jill, I don't know if you heard about it or seen my video on it,
2:33:16
but about a year ago I was taking a nap and all that and my
2:33:21
daughter comes in and says Daddy, somebody's at the door.
2:33:24
So I go open the door and there's a woman out there.
2:33:28
Well, she was a younger woman and she was almost half naked
2:33:31
and it was freezing cold outside.
2:33:33
And I opened up the door a little bit and I said, ma'am,
2:33:37
are you OK? And she just kept walking back
2:33:39
and forth and like, incoherently speaking.
2:33:42
So I figured she was probably traumatized or something.
2:33:45
So I went and I grabbed a blanket and I threw it to her
2:33:48
and I said cover yourself. And she didn't seem like she was
2:33:51
understanding fully what I was saying.
2:33:53
I ended up calling the police and the police come up, but it
2:33:56
was just so weird having this like half, almost half naked
2:34:00
woman standing there and she just looked completely
2:34:02
incoherent. Cops came and got her and put
2:34:07
her in, put in her vehicle and took her to wherever.
2:34:10
I did end up calling later and asking if she made it to
2:34:13
wherever she needed to go and they said, Oh yeah, she's all
2:34:16
right and all that. She's this cold.
2:34:22
Yeah. Weird stuff.
2:34:23
Weird stuff for sure. What were you going to say?
2:34:26
She might have been an Angel. An Angel?
2:34:30
Yeah. You think an Angel?
2:34:32
Come visit my house out in the woods.
2:34:34
Yeah, to see how you would treat treat the person.
2:34:37
I'm not going to let somebody freeze to death or get cold and
2:34:40
all that. My wife tells me I put my heart
2:34:43
on my shoulder and stuff. There has been times where I try
2:34:46
to help people and then something mean happens to me.
2:34:49
So could have been she wasn't though like some kind of scary
2:34:53
looking person. It's just it was odd.
2:34:56
It was weird. What's going on kind of thing.
2:34:59
What's that passage in Hebrews that says that we may entertain
2:35:03
angels unawares? I want to say that's verse 12.
2:35:07
I mean chapter 12, but I could be wrong.
2:35:10
Yeah, maybe I'm, I don't know where it exactly it is, but
2:35:15
yeah, what you guys were saying, it reminded me of some
2:35:18
situations where a situation where I went to Canada for the
2:35:22
first time and never been there. Didn't you know?
2:35:25
This was before the advent of YouTube, so, you know, on
2:35:28
Facebook, so nobody knew who I was.
2:35:31
But somehow this guy who I'd never met before in Toronto, you
2:35:36
know, walked right by him. He's looking straight at me and
2:35:41
he just called me by name and say hey, what's happening and I
2:35:45
like who you talking to? I'm looking around because I was
2:35:47
with a group of guys. I thought maybe he was talking
2:35:48
one of them and but the guy I was walking with was looking at
2:35:52
me, looking back at the guy looks back at me and he says, I
2:35:55
thought you said you never been to Toronto before.
2:35:57
I said Nah, this is my first time.
2:35:59
I look back and as I'm still walking away, I'm still looking
2:36:03
back and the guy in the distance is still looking at me straight
2:36:06
in the eye, big old smile on his face and says, it calls my name
2:36:10
again. It says, hey, how's it going?
2:36:11
And I'm like, what the heck is going on?
2:36:15
This guy is calling my name. I I've never met the guy before,
2:36:19
you know, And the guy who's walking with me is like, man,
2:36:21
that is freaky man. How is this guy, you know,
2:36:26
knowing that knows who you are? He calls you by your name, yet
2:36:30
you've never met him before. You've never even been in this
2:36:32
country before. And yet this is your face from
2:36:35
the cartoon. No, no.
2:36:36
This is before Internet. This is before YouTube.
2:36:39
This is before Facebook. You know, there's no way.
2:36:45
There's no way that this guy would have known who I was.
2:36:48
Say it again. Mandela.
2:36:55
No, I don't know if you heard this, but no, I told Zekfel, but
2:36:58
I'm actually responsible for the Mandela Effect.
2:37:01
I heard that. Yeah, I heard.
2:37:03
I apologize, folks. I didn't mean to go to milk.
2:37:06
Darn that like. Crack.
2:37:07
No, that's OK because that I believe false doctrine.
2:37:11
God allows it every wind of doctrine.
2:37:14
Well, I never said I when I spoke of it.
2:37:16
I only talked about it because it was a conversation was
2:37:20
trending on YouTube. I made it clear in my videos
2:37:23
that I did not subscribe to it. My goodness, man, what are you
2:37:26
trying to hypnotize me? Look into my.
2:37:31
Whoa, look. Into my lead, Mandela.
2:37:34
Look into my eye. Brad.
2:37:35
Brad. OK I don't understand why Thick
2:37:38
Shades gets mad at people over it either.
2:37:40
I exactly I explained to him that if he is in an altered
2:37:44
universe, then the people of whatever reality he's a part of
2:37:49
now, they're going to only believe what is objectively true
2:37:53
in their universe. They won't know what the hell
2:37:55
he's talking about. So to get mad at somebody for
2:37:58
that, that's stupid. That's like going in the
2:38:00
multiverse and getting pissed at the new Flash.
2:38:02
You. Know.
2:38:03
Yeah, I don't, I don't get it either, man.
2:38:05
I don't understand why, why he gets upset whenever we try to we
2:38:09
grill him about giving us a little bit of a thorough
2:38:12
explanation. We know, we all know, most of us
2:38:15
know what the Mandela Effect is now because we've hear me mostly
2:38:19
bringing it up and ridiculing thick shades about it.
2:38:21
But when it comes to backing it up or, you know, with Scripture,
2:38:26
nobody knows where to go except for the video I used to
2:38:30
criticize, you know, to ridicule thick shades with.
2:38:34
And for some of you who may not have seen that video, I came up
2:38:37
with the a video where you have the verses that thick shades
2:38:43
provided. And then you'll see like the
2:38:47
Mandela Effect versions of those same verses, which I made-up.
2:38:52
You know, I added some extra words in there to kind of, you
2:38:55
know, make fun of it. But I mean, he has these random
2:38:59
verses here that just seem to have nothing to do with the
2:39:01
quantum effect or things just changing by happenstance and
2:39:06
making people believe false things.
2:39:08
None of that. I mean, it's complete isogesis
2:39:10
on his part. Complete isogesis.
2:39:13
So just absolutely amazing. You know what the the origin
2:39:18
story of it is and why I even, besides it being a popular
2:39:21
conversation, why I even took interest in it in the first
2:39:24
place, right? Say that one more time.
2:39:28
You do you know why I even took interest besides the fact that
2:39:31
it was trending on YouTube for a while there and everybody was
2:39:34
talking about it. The thing that got me to
2:39:36
actually thinking about, wow, this is neat.
2:39:39
Let's talk about it. Well, it wasn't just because of
2:39:42
the whole Baron stare and Star Wars was said something
2:39:46
different like James Earl Jones. What got me was there were
2:39:50
people out there who were actually claiming that they were
2:39:53
convinced that they had had children or that they were
2:39:56
married to someone and then suddenly everybody doesn't know
2:40:00
that person never even existed. Like, did you have
2:40:03
conversations? Like I never even knew you were
2:40:05
married? What, you have a kid?
2:40:08
They were basically saying that people were going into non
2:40:11
existence fuck all and I had to make some videos about that kind
2:40:15
of shit. That was crazy.
2:40:18
Well, here's one example of why people, one of the controversy
2:40:22
when it comes to Christians believing in the quantum effect
2:40:27
or the AKA the Mandela effect. This is one of those verses that
2:40:31
pops up that's in question, Isaiah 11/6, and the other one I
2:40:35
think is in chapter 65, but it says the wolf shall dwell with
2:40:39
the Lamb. So if you're talking to
2:40:42
believers of the Mandela Effect, they'll say no.
2:40:44
I'm pretty sure that it actually said the lion shall dwell with
2:40:48
the lamb and then somehow the devil changed it.
2:40:51
But they don't have any means at all to prove that this ever said
2:40:56
lion. They just don't.
2:40:59
Why? I have an explanation on a
2:41:01
really good one. Why it is that people probably
2:41:05
are convinced without a doubt for them, in their own
2:41:07
perspective, that it was a lion. You know why?
2:41:11
Because of the pictures. Yeah, there's so many images, so
2:41:15
many posters and T-shirts. Jesus is represented as a lion
2:41:19
God, the lion of the lamb and all that kind of stuff.
2:41:23
The lamb, obviously the innocence and then the lamb, the
2:41:26
the lion being the king type of deal.
2:41:29
I think they've seen so many pictures that got muddled into
2:41:32
their head and they didn't realize that the verse is only
2:41:35
telling you that things that were once opposed to each other
2:41:38
are now going to find unison in harmony with each other.
2:41:42
That's all it's trying to say, right?
2:41:44
Am I? Correct exactly, you know and
2:41:48
see now here's the word lion here in the same verse.
2:41:51
See that could be another thing contributed to their false
2:41:54
memory too. Maybe they you see how even just
2:41:57
looking on my screen, obviously it's going to look different on
2:42:00
everybody else's screen, but you got the Lord lying directly
2:42:03
underneath the word wolf here. You know, somebody can easily,
2:42:07
you know, take a quick glance at that and and then, you know,
2:42:10
just miss misinterpret it and say, Oh yeah, the the lion shall
2:42:13
dwell with the land. That's what it says.
2:42:15
And I I say 11-6, you know, and we do that sometimes we have
2:42:19
false memories, we misremember or whatever you want to call it
2:42:23
things and then we get corrected on it.
2:42:25
But we never jumped to this wacky conclusion that somebody
2:42:28
changed. I know I'm right, but somebody
2:42:30
changed it. The devil changed it or God
2:42:32
changed it. You know, it's sickening.
2:42:35
Well, look at look at this verse right here.
2:42:38
Try Revelation 556, Revelation 5I, I think that's it.
2:42:44
The lion and the Lamb both or the Jesus Christ, He's both
2:42:48
conquering the lion of the tribe of Judah and the Lamb who was
2:42:51
slain. Or is that?
2:42:54
Yeah, I think that's verse 6. And behold, and lo, a shout out
2:42:58
to Missus Smokey. Lo, right there, there you are.
2:43:00
But anyway. And behold and lo, in the midst
2:43:03
of the throne of the four beasts, and in the midst of the
2:43:07
elders, stood the Lamb as it had been slain, having 7 horns and
2:43:12
seven eyes, which are and. Remember, there's a creature
2:43:15
that looks kind of like a lion too, right?
2:43:17
Right, right. Yeah, there's somewhere in
2:43:20
there. So there's so much of that kind
2:43:23
of stuff going on. That's that's the possibility of
2:43:26
why it happened. There was one thing that the
2:43:28
Mandela Effect did get me on though.
2:43:30
I could have swore that in the movie Silence of the Lambs that
2:43:34
he said, do you remember the term where he goes, hello.
2:43:39
Was it Chlorel or something like that Her name?
2:43:41
Oh yeah, yeah, that's another one that's brought up a lot.
2:43:44
Johnny. Hello, Clarice.
2:43:47
Yeah, but what actually did he say?
2:43:50
It's according to the actual movie.
2:43:53
In this reality, as Dick Shade would say it, he doesn't say
2:43:56
anything. He's just standing there waiting
2:43:59
for her to walk in. I could have swore, but there is
2:44:02
in the me. Too.
2:44:02
I could have sworn he said that, yeah.
2:44:04
Hello Clarice. Or you said it better.
2:44:08
See now here. Now, here's one example of an
2:44:11
actual of a thing that actually did happen, but I haven't seen
2:44:17
it. The edited version.
2:44:18
I've only seen the edited version for many, many decades.
2:44:21
All right, The movie that came out in 87, The Transformers, the
2:44:24
movie, The animated film, not the 2007 film, Michael Bay film
2:44:28
I'm talking about. 81. Was it 81?
2:44:31
It was Unicron, right? There unicron that.
2:44:35
Was 80. No, that's 82.
2:44:38
Really. I thought it was 87.
2:44:40
I was a kid when I went to movie theater.
2:44:42
Dude. Man that movie made me cry.
2:44:45
Too many of my favorite damn robots got blew the hell up.
2:44:47
I know man, yeah, that was that was a life changing film for me,
2:44:51
man. But but anyways, in that 86, OK,
2:44:56
that movie when it came out and man, gosh, I would love to have
2:45:00
that theatrical experience again.
2:45:01
It just it just doesn't work the same anymore.
2:45:03
I didn't. See it in theaters.
2:45:05
Oh, I saw it in theater, man. Especially dude, when you live
2:45:07
in New York City back in, in those days, back in the 80s and
2:45:11
you saw a movie, you went to a movie theater, man, it was wild.
2:45:14
I mean, people were so interactive, not that annoying,
2:45:17
but it was still fun. I mean, it was like you in a
2:45:20
live studio audience or something like that, man.
2:45:22
It's. The greatest cartoon ever
2:45:23
invented. But man.
2:45:25
But yeah, anyway, there's a part where Unicron is sucking the
2:45:31
good, you know, he's sucking the Cybertron and it's breaking
2:45:34
apart. It's becoming brittle.
2:45:36
And then the parts of it are flying off of it and into the to
2:45:39
the mouth of Unicron. And Spike and I think Bumblebee
2:45:44
are inside a ship and they too are getting sucked in.
2:45:50
And, and he says, oh, snap, what are we going to do now?
2:45:52
So of course he says the other word.
2:45:54
SHIT. Right.
2:45:57
And that was that was said in the actual movie.
2:46:00
Right now I've only seen the movie once in the theater.
2:46:03
Well. They take that sometimes they
2:46:06
remake these movies and recast them.
2:46:08
They change a lot so. That right, right.
2:46:11
See, now, I didn't see it on videotape until much, much,
2:46:13
much, much, much, much, much later.
2:46:16
And then I was looking for that scene and I was getting into
2:46:18
arguments with people. I said, no, He actually swears
2:46:21
in that, in that shot. They cut it out and they said,
2:46:23
no, I know he didn't. I said yes, he did.
2:46:25
I'm not crazy. I've seen it and now, finally,
2:46:28
years, decades later, they're now I'm finally seeing it again.
2:46:32
So. So it's back.
2:46:33
There on the Blu-ray, the remastered Blu-ray, it actually
2:46:36
has the scenes and and shows it and it's full director's cut the
2:46:41
way it was meant to be. You should see it on Blu-ray.
2:46:44
It's not going to have the 100% feeling of what it was like when
2:46:48
we were kids, but it's pretty damn close to see it in four.
2:46:52
You know, dimensions like that HD Why did I say dimensions?
2:46:57
4K? Sorry about that 4K.
2:47:00
Is this incredible? 4K I'm Matt.
2:47:03
I'll be I'll be looking forward to getting that hooked up soon.
2:47:08
I forgot to even bring this up with you, but you were, you've
2:47:11
got this huge series of animations going on, have you?
2:47:16
I've got AI know of a company that does CDs and Blu rays and
2:47:21
all that and you don't have to pay for them.
2:47:23
You could actually make it to where people want it.
2:47:26
A Blu-ray, you could buy it and you'll make a profit off of it
2:47:29
is something you're interested in.
2:47:31
Oh yeah, appreciate that. I'll, I'll definitely want to
2:47:34
look into something like that in the future.
2:47:36
I can talk to you later. About it, if you're up for it.
2:47:40
Yeah, yeah. Appreciate that.
2:47:42
So, Jill, you know, I do kind of want to start wrapping things up
2:47:46
too because I do have to get up in the morning.
2:47:48
But what we got on the screen here, Jill?
2:47:51
I just found this. This is from 8 years ago.
2:47:55
This is the real thick shades. By the way, I don't know who
2:47:57
this imposter is now claiming to be thick shades, but it's that
2:48:01
this is not the real thick shades.
2:48:03
This is a real thick shades. But this video, I'll put it in
2:48:07
the side chat if you want to watch it.
2:48:08
It actually goes into death. What what thick he was actually
2:48:13
teaching as opposed to what Christ taught.
2:48:17
He was preaching a totally different gospel.
2:48:21
What does he mean that he made philosophy?
2:48:23
I don't get it. Well, many new Ages will often
2:48:28
use Christian terminology and they just repackage it.
2:48:34
That's the that's the the goal is to attract the Christian into
2:48:38
into actually, you know, brainwashed a Christian into
2:48:44
thinking that what he's teaching in Christianity are one and the
2:48:47
same. Basically, it's just new age
2:48:51
philosophy. What he's teaching.
2:48:53
That's that's why the. Man, what I mean that.
2:48:54
Becomes so natural to him. I understand what new Age is.
2:48:58
What I don't understand is the sentence that Jesus Christ was.
2:49:04
That's what he believes. But what is, what's New Age
2:49:08
philosophy about what Jesus said?
2:49:11
Jesus is saying a lot of the things that we could find easily
2:49:15
in the Old Testament. So what is what is it about the
2:49:18
compassion, the mercy, the love, the wrath that was all there?
2:49:23
Well, they have this belief that Christ taught what they call
2:49:28
Christ consciousness and that everyone can obtain the same
2:49:32
Christ quote UN quote consciousness that Christ had
2:49:35
when he was on earth. So that's basically one of their
2:49:38
teachings. And and they, and of course they
2:49:41
suggest that this is in fact what Christ taught.
2:49:44
So it's not about forgiveness of sins or, or repentance.
2:49:49
It's about obtaining this sort of like a Nirvana.
2:49:52
What what the Enlightenment, enlightenment, right, what the
2:49:56
Buddhists would call enlightenment.
2:49:57
It's it's new age metaphysics repackage for Christians that
2:50:03
that's really what thick shades was.
2:50:05
I'm going to say was because this real this thick shades now
2:50:09
is not thick shades like I. Know that new Thick Shades is an
2:50:12
AI director. Yeah.
2:50:16
So so you So you're convinced it's not thick shades either,
2:50:18
huh? That is not thick shades.
2:50:22
I am 100 percent, 99% certain that is not fixed.
2:50:26
We had another conversation today and he was trying so hard
2:50:30
to sound like the thick shades. So we this guy have gone back
2:50:35
and forth in the comment section and this new things thick shades
2:50:40
can't even compare to the real one.
2:50:44
It's he or she is trying awfully hard.
2:50:47
I give them that. But I I know I know that's not
2:50:50
thick shades. I know for a fact.
2:50:52
Man, yeah, I don't know if I'm convinced of that, but man, you
2:50:56
guys just seem to be like really, really convinced that
2:51:00
this is somebody else. But what about the conversations
2:51:03
he has in in real time? I mean with.
2:51:05
People, I've never seen any of them.
2:51:07
Where are these conversations? Like he's been popping up on
2:51:09
Bill's channel lately. Oh.
2:51:11
Come on man, Are you, have you listened to those those
2:51:15
interactions? Yeah, he sounds like the same
2:51:17
guy from six from two years. Two years ago, there's a delay
2:51:22
for one. You could see that there's it's
2:51:24
not a natural conversation. There's a bit of a delay when
2:51:28
Vicki quote UN quote Vicki speaks.
2:51:31
You can clearly see it's AI. AI is they've the the technology
2:51:36
has really grown sort of tremendously.
2:51:40
Yeah, from to even find. I don't think, I don't think
2:51:43
those guys have that far advanced material.
2:51:47
It's. Not it's not.
2:51:48
It's not even advanced. I can tell it's AI.
2:51:51
You could tell it's AI that there's no cutting off in a, in
2:51:55
a normal natural conversation. You will see what what happens
2:51:59
in our conversations. You watch that again very
2:52:03
closely, you'll see that this clearly AI responding and to
2:52:08
what is being said to him and there's a bit of a delay, a
2:52:12
processing of the information before you hear the answer.
2:52:16
Yeah, Beckel, there's there's things out there called voice
2:52:20
synthesizers where you could sound like Donald Trump if you
2:52:23
wanted, and you could actually just sit down with the program,
2:52:28
read off the paragraph and then it'll analyze your voice.
2:52:31
And then you could do your own voice if you want, or somebody
2:52:35
else's. You can also do with something
2:52:37
called Eldon Labs. The reason I don't do that, the
2:52:40
only way I'm going to do it is if I make it clear that I'm
2:52:43
doing parody. Like I got Donald Trump saying
2:52:45
he loves my show. I want to do that too, yeah.
2:52:50
But the the thing that's annoying me about these folks is
2:52:54
they're making it out to look like it's something serious.
2:52:57
They're they're literally trying to warp people's personalities
2:53:00
and their voice and their videos.
2:53:03
Yeah, I noticed lately on Thicky's channel that he hasn't
2:53:06
been doing those face deep fake videos anymore.
2:53:11
So. So now he's got either still
2:53:13
images of our faces or and then with our voices over it, or he's
2:53:20
just showing completely different images with our voices
2:53:22
still over it. But he's he hasn't done the the
2:53:25
deep fakes anymore. It's Bill, I noticed.
2:53:28
It's Bill. Yeah, Yeah, I noticed it.
2:53:30
It seems like it it would be Bill, because Bill hasn't been
2:53:33
making a lot of videos on his channel lately except for doing
2:53:36
these two, Yeah, these very, very short streams on his
2:53:39
channel and then in doing these private Hangouts.
2:53:42
Like what? What is the purpose of doing
2:53:44
this? It's.
2:53:44
Been because he's he's not of God.
2:53:46
I, I would say the man is not of God.
2:53:48
I think the man is sick. The man constantly talks about
2:53:51
Smokey all the time instead of leaving it alone.
2:53:55
You know you can't forgive. I, I listen to his stream a
2:54:00
little bit of his stream earlier today.
2:54:03
The guy immediately starts off talking about Smokey and Ryan
2:54:08
and he does this for at least 35 minutes.
2:54:11
Oh my God, right. I, I step away, I come back,
2:54:15
he's got people in the room and they're still talking about the
2:54:18
same thing. Now why is that significant?
2:54:21
It's really significant because he won't allow anybody else in
2:54:24
his room except for his so-called beloveds.
2:54:28
And when you do that, when you have that short of a circle of
2:54:30
people that you hang out with, you run out of stupid, you run
2:54:34
out of stuff to talk about. You don't want to talk about
2:54:37
movies. You don't want to talk about
2:54:38
politics. You know, everything else is
2:54:40
boring to you. You don't want to talk about
2:54:43
anything else except for your problem with, with some of the
2:54:47
smokes and the Ryan's and the vet ghouls and all these other
2:54:51
people. You know, that's, that's the
2:54:54
problem, Yeah. Calvinism, you know, you know,
2:54:57
that kind of thing. You know, that's all these guys
2:55:00
talk about. That's why their streams are
2:55:01
going to be always so short. And if they are longer than two
2:55:04
hours, it's going to be nothing but the same old regurgitated
2:55:07
hatred out of their mouths over and over again.
2:55:10
So it's. Like an obsessed British golem,
2:55:14
Matt Brussels, this is an. Actual video, you want me to
2:55:20
play this a little bit? Oh, yeah, yeah, a little bit.
2:55:22
A little bit because I got to wrap it up.
2:55:24
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what?
2:55:32
Happened what? What happened?
2:55:34
This person is claiming that he is really at the Baja faith.
2:55:38
Oh wow. A Buddhist type of hey, it makes
2:55:41
sense, he is from Wuhan, right? There's Uncle Sam.
2:55:48
Right, right, right. I love you 24 hour.
2:56:02
Oh, so there's nobody speaking in this video, It's just images
2:56:05
of the text. That really ends.
2:56:24
That that's pretty much it. I mean it's.
2:56:26
Just wait. Whose video is this?
2:56:28
This is somebody called. I don't, I forgot their name but
2:56:32
I'll put it in the side chat for you.
2:56:34
And they were exposing thick shades and his Mandela Effect.
2:56:38
Belief. This is from 8 years ago.
2:56:41
Yep, and he still espouses this. This is the real thick shades.
2:56:45
You see how he you see how he always starts his why you
2:56:49
stupid? Why you falsely a cool holes.
2:56:52
He always starts up. Now Bill, if you're listening,
2:56:55
if you want to be thicky, please follow this pattern when you're
2:56:59
sending messages comments. This is how thicky responds.
2:57:05
Why why you stop saying why, why stupid?
2:57:09
Why? Why stupid?
2:57:12
Why you say you are Christian yet rather they're wishing them
2:57:17
heaven you custom with hell, Yeah.
2:57:22
It's hard for me to get mad at him because he he doesn't have
2:57:26
the same like tone to his voice. But every time I listen to him,
2:57:30
it sounds like Yoda. I can't get mad at him.
2:57:32
I'm just like wow. You got Mac in the house.
2:57:37
What's going on, Mac Ryan says. He's got a video he wants me to
2:57:40
check out and say go from 1:20 to 1:25 to 1:30.
2:57:46
All right, I'll, I'll, we'll take a peek.
2:57:47
At this room, make it Panda's coming up.
2:57:53
Is this on? Rumble obviously we got a
2:57:55
commercial. So for those of you who are
2:57:58
familiar with, I could get. You.
2:58:00
Rumble, we just got those commercials that pop up.
2:58:04
Can you guys see that? OK.
2:58:07
Looks like it's an interesting game.
2:58:09
Yeah, yeah, I tried it a little bit, but I got to sit down and
2:58:14
learn the UI. OK, let's go to 125.
2:58:19
Learn about this beloved here. OK, hold on, let's blow up the
2:58:23
screen and you guys out there know what to do.
2:58:26
Hook up our brother and let me know if y'all can't hear nothing
2:58:29
and away we go. Yeah, yeah, I've got, I've got.
2:58:34
I haven't installed yet but I did download a program ready to
2:58:40
go soonish or I can do like that the AI face manipulation so I'm
2:58:46
going to try that that next or I can.
2:58:50
I'll tell you, you know what, I'll post on my community
2:58:54
section a video that'll help you out if you want to do like live
2:58:57
face swapping on video are on streams or if you want to do
2:59:03
videos where you swap faces like I'm doing.
2:59:06
I found a real what easy way to hook it up.
2:59:08
It's actually a browser that you installed.
2:59:11
It runs a server on your system. It's basically just like 3
2:59:14
clicks and you're ready to go. Wow, Yeah.
2:59:17
You left it. You left it.
2:59:18
You left it. Yeah.
2:59:19
Let us know about that one. Yeah, I'll post it on the
2:59:22
community section there and you can just follow along.
2:59:25
It's step by step. It's real easy.
2:59:29
Yeah, look, look, the leader for me says I'm going.
2:59:33
To go now are. You going to go there?
2:59:36
Yeah. Thank you.
2:59:38
Bye bye. Take care.
2:59:41
Bye. Oh, we're oh, we've got, we've
2:59:46
got shit in the house. Are you actually going to be
2:59:48
able to use your audio, don't you?
2:59:58
We can see you. We can see you there.
2:59:59
We can't hear. You can't.
3:00:06
Hear you. But anyway, he leaves me says
3:00:09
hands down Ghosty Man is the epic in GY6 library.
3:00:14
Ghost. Man, Ghost.
3:00:17
Oh, thank you, I had a lot of inspiration for that one.
3:00:20
Yeah. So I'm wondering real quick
3:00:24
before I continue this video, is it possible?
3:00:27
Is it a possibility that this fake thicky is GY6 this GY6 guy
3:00:34
or Bill? What do you what do you guys
3:00:37
think? What do you think man?
3:00:40
I heard the name mentioned Ghost man though.
3:00:43
MMM. Never heard of ghost man?
3:00:46
But well, there is a YouTube that goes in the rooms and I am
3:00:51
almost to the point where I'm 90% convinced the guy's playing
3:00:56
games and all that. But what the guy does, he goes
3:00:59
in the rooms and then he pretends as though he's messed
3:01:01
up, like he's disabled or something.
3:01:04
But some of the stuff I've seen him pull on people, I I think
3:01:09
it's he's playing the game for attention.
3:01:12
I gotcha. Yeah, I do.
3:01:19
I do say a lot of good ghostly man from G boy 6 and even is it
3:01:26
reset glitch? Reset glitch is another one that
3:01:28
does it. That's funny.
3:01:29
Reset. Yeah, yeah, I like old Reset.
3:01:33
He's a good old boy or a girl. I don't know if he's a boy or a
3:01:35
girl, but he's a boy. Yeah, I'm assuming, I'm assuming
3:01:40
because he uploaded a video once where he shown his hand and had
3:01:45
a dollar bill in it. So and that was a man hand.
3:01:48
So he's a. Man hand.
3:01:51
Yeah. Yeah, definitely a definitely a
3:01:56
man here and there. Yeah.
3:01:59
What was? Yeah, despite my beef with Bill
3:02:02
I, I do like his accent. I have to say it's.
3:02:07
It's so fun to mock. But I'll have to, I'll have to
3:02:10
get my, I did literally download it.
3:02:12
I just, I've been so busy, you know, with family staff and
3:02:17
other bits and bobs, I've haven't had time to experiment
3:02:22
with the AI face manipulation thing I've got.
3:02:25
But I'm going to, I'm going to have to do that.
3:02:26
I'm going to have to do it. So we've got a ship in the
3:02:30
background again, but no audio. Oh shipped on it.
3:02:36
So I heard you got a new computer system, Bill.
3:02:40
Yeah, I did. Yeah.
3:02:41
Yeah, my old computer gave up the ghost.
3:02:44
Oh. Wow, Yeah, they do that.
3:02:46
Yeah, I mean, I've had it years. I mean years.
3:02:50
You know, I was upgrading, upgrading to the point where you
3:02:53
couldn't upgrade anymore. What was Ryan hoping we were
3:02:56
going to hear? Yeah, I I didn't hear anything
3:03:01
other than them talking about the capability of this software
3:03:05
that that he has access to, but he hasn't used it yet.
3:03:08
So. So I'll I'll stop it there.
3:03:11
I don't. Know what else You don't need AI
3:03:13
in order to face swap and you can actually get face swap
3:03:16
programs that don't even involve AII Don't know why they're maybe
3:03:20
they want to hide their faces when they're doing videos or
3:03:24
something. Doesn't necessarily mean that
3:03:26
they're, you know, up to something you know.
3:03:28
Batesman says says it's it is built.
3:03:32
So they reacts faster to a comment under his name by using
3:03:35
Thicky to block, but then goes under Thicky's account since he
3:03:40
has to re log in. I I think there's a lot of room
3:03:45
for speculation man. But I, I don't know man.
3:03:50
I mean, because sometimes, yeah, Jill and I get accused of being
3:03:54
the same person and I could see why.
3:03:58
I mean, you know, Jill hardly makes any appearances on my
3:04:03
stream. Sometimes, you know, sometimes
3:04:05
he'll just leave comments. So somebody can easily assume
3:04:09
that, oh, that's just Beckel, you know, he's just got 2
3:04:11
computers, 2 keyboards, you know, and he's pretending to be
3:04:15
Jill, you know, that kind of thing.
3:04:18
You know, someone, you know, I'm, I'm just simply saying why,
3:04:21
why couldn't anybody assume the same thing about Bill pretending
3:04:25
to be Thick Shades? You know, but it could also be
3:04:28
that it just happens to be just by coincidence that Thick Shades
3:04:31
is reacting in the same way that Bill.
3:04:35
But it does look weird, though, you know, I see less activity
3:04:38
from Bill these days now that Thick Shades is back on a scene,
3:04:42
You know, So basement door says, wait a minute, Joe isn't.
3:04:49
Yeah, despite the skit. Well, actually, no one's ever
3:04:51
actually seen what Joe looks like, I believe.
3:04:53
But we all assume he's black. On this link or my link?
3:04:58
Yeah. I would do that.
3:05:01
I praise her Bell. Sorry I I just can't trust those
3:05:05
sources for for. We don't believe it.
3:05:11
I forget what the name was, but I think that thick shades might
3:05:16
actually have another soccer count.
3:05:18
There was AI think a post I'm. Sure.
3:05:21
He's got many of them. Yeah.
3:05:22
Yeah, I did a post and it's got an avatar on it, has something
3:05:26
like holy in it. And I had basically said I have
3:05:30
a difficult time believing thick shades because thick shades
3:05:33
messes around with AI all the time.
3:05:36
And you know, even though some of it might be true, it really
3:05:39
sets off my Spidey senses to see all that AI that's going on over
3:05:43
there because I'm, I'm perfectly aware of what can be done with
3:05:47
AI. You can do some really
3:05:48
disruptive shit if you really wanted to.
3:05:51
So I see it. It makes me question.
3:05:54
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. I didn't.
3:05:57
What? Happened was I questioned it and
3:05:59
this guy just kept on going. No thick shades would never do
3:06:02
something like that. And it was the same pattern of
3:06:05
writing and the way he normally acts.
3:06:08
So it's like. Daniel, what's going on?
3:06:13
Where are you the same person? Also known as true salvation or
3:06:17
something like that. I don't have anything personal
3:06:24
against you, but I I thought I did see a comment that you made
3:06:27
on Precious channel about me maybe yesterday or the day
3:06:31
before. I can't remember what the
3:06:33
comment was. So obviously it wasn't that
3:06:35
important to me. So I'm not going to hold it
3:06:37
against you, but it was definitely, I don't know if this
3:06:40
is the same person or not. Is that the one with the accent?
3:06:43
The the the Daniel? Yeah.
3:06:46
I don't know which Daniel this is.
3:06:48
Yeah, I think this is what that's the one with.
3:06:50
The D Southern OK, BD says Daniel is the Cornhusker from
3:06:55
Smokey's channel. OK, new name says no, it's a
3:07:01
different person. OK, All right.
3:07:05
The guy named True Salvation who left a comment on Smokey's
3:07:10
channel, I think the other day and then appeared in he appears
3:07:13
in Praises channel regularly. That's the guy that I have an
3:07:17
issue with, not this Daniel here.
3:07:21
OK, So obviously, Daniel, I would say no, I don't have any
3:07:27
issue with you. If you did, it would be be me
3:07:31
responding to a video that you made about me or an outlandish
3:07:37
claim that was made about me. You know, So those are the only
3:07:41
people I really care to actually have responses to, you know, or
3:07:45
actual beef with if they're saying, saying, saying things
3:07:48
that are just flat out untrue that I should address or need to
3:07:52
address. But the rest of the people that
3:07:54
got issues with me, I don't even bother addressing them because,
3:07:57
you know, humans are retarded. That's what that's what the
3:08:00
scriptures say. Humans are retarded.
3:08:02
And so because the humans are being retarded are retarded, I
3:08:06
don't respond to every criticism of me or every attack towards
3:08:13
me. You know, that's just the nature
3:08:16
of the Internet, my friends. We all know that you've been
3:08:19
dealing with the Internet for at least 10 years.
3:08:21
You have no room for acting like a little Sissy, like Bruce.
3:08:26
You just got to remember that. You got to, If you're going to
3:08:29
deal with the Internet, you got to have some thick skin.
3:08:33
You got to have some thick skin. You know, that's just the way it
3:08:37
is, man. You got to deal with it.
3:08:39
You can't deal with it. Get off the Internet. close your
3:08:41
account, Bruce. Get off the Internet.
3:08:46
Get off the Internet, Bruce. See, like BD, he says Vecco
3:08:49
wears lipstick. See, that's how you know it's
3:08:50
not me. You.
3:08:52
Can't handle the heat if you see me wearing lipstick.
3:08:55
You know, it's not me, but see, look, this is a retarded
3:08:58
statement, right? I know this is not true.
3:09:02
Everybody knows it's not true. So you can't get, you know, all
3:09:05
offended because Basement Dwelling said I wear, you know,
3:09:08
lipstick. I know he's joking around, but
3:09:10
I'm just using that as an example.
3:09:12
You got to get thick skin, folks.
3:09:14
Got to get thick skins, thick skin.
3:09:17
Chris Keefe says thick skin to deal with thick shades.
3:09:19
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
3:09:20
Get over it, folks. That's right.
3:09:23
Anyway, I'm going to use that to wrap it up.
3:09:25
I am an hour and 30 minutes behind schedule, so it's back to
3:09:30
work for me tomorrow. But any guys, any of you guys
3:09:34
got any final thoughts or anything?
3:09:37
Nah, it was fun hanging out with you and Jill.
3:09:41
Hopefully things will get straightened out.
3:09:43
It worked out. People start growing some brain
3:09:45
cells or some shit. Some brains and some some skull
3:09:49
and some some spine. Yeah, Yeah, that'd be that'd be
3:09:51
good too. I appreciate that, Brett.
3:09:54
It's always a pleasure. Thank you for allowing me to to
3:09:56
touch on your posts that you did.
3:09:59
Folks going ahead and subscribe to Brett's channel, you know,
3:10:02
check him out. He's got some interesting
3:10:03
content on his channel as well, and he doesn't open up an
3:10:08
environment where you got to worry about walking on egg
3:10:10
shells as well. So go on over there.
3:10:14
Check him out, man. You know, known this guy for
3:10:17
many, many years and he's good guy.
3:10:19
He's good people. So check him out.
3:10:21
Thank you, Sir. All right, I'm dropping out for
3:10:23
you. All right, all right, Jill,
3:10:26
what's going on? You got any last words, Jill?
3:10:33
Any final words? Oh, no, no.
3:10:36
Thanks for having me on again and I'll see you next.
3:10:41
Time yeah man hopefully we'll get together in the future and
3:10:44
we do some more of these political streams man so
3:10:48
definitely want to pick your brain about say it again I.
3:10:51
Have a song for for Bruce. You do right now.
3:10:56
Yeah. OK, let's hear it.
3:11:00
Is it a link that we got to share?
3:11:04
Hold on, hold on. I can't hear it.
3:11:05
Let me turn down the music I got.
3:11:16
Listen. I I I couldn't hear it.
3:11:20
Oh, you couldn't hear? It Oh no, no, we heard
3:11:23
something, but it just sounded like noise.
3:11:26
Oh, OK, yeah, that was the reggae.
3:11:30
What was the song? That's actually a song, the
3:11:32
reggae song. What was the song?
3:11:34
Where were the lyrics? Morning.
3:11:37
Huh, Lucinda, the morning it's. Actually a reggae song.
3:11:44
What was the name of the song? Lucifer Sun in the morning.
3:11:48
Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Now, of course, because I
3:11:52
allowed you guys to thrash Bruce, we, you know, we're not
3:11:57
going to hear the end of it from him now.
3:11:59
So now what he's going to do, he's going to run over to praise
3:12:01
his channel or to Dave's Dude's channel or Bill's channel and
3:12:05
he's going to whine and complain and go tell on us that, you
3:12:08
know, do a little tattle tale. And I don't know, I'm trying to
3:12:11
be the right Christian, but those guys won't let me be a
3:12:14
good Christian. Jill.
3:12:15
Kicked me out of the club. Yeah, Jill kicked me out.
3:12:18
What the heck? Yeah, man, seriously roll with
3:12:24
that, man. So it's seriously roll with
3:12:26
that, man. Mine.
3:12:28
Yeah, that's right. But all right man, nice chatting
3:12:31
with you all. Right, man, it's good seeing
3:12:33
you. Thank you for coming in, Obama.
3:12:36
Is a long leg that's. Right.
3:12:40
All right, all right, all right, folks.
3:12:42
Well, that's it man. I got to wrap this up.
3:12:43
I'm way behind schedule back to work tomorrow.
3:12:48
I'm going to be hurt in but that's OK.
3:12:50
That's what you guys are for at the church.
3:12:52
It will, at least for those of you who actually profess the
3:12:56
name Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, you know, hook me up
3:12:59
with a little bit of prayer that I be full of vigor tomorrow for
3:13:03
work, getting back to work and that I'm safe.
3:13:07
And yeah, that's about it. So appreciate you guys tuning in
3:13:13
this long. And yeah, yeah, it's always a
3:13:17
pleasure. So again, I'm paying for my
3:13:20
Stream yard account now again, so I can get up to 10 people a
3:13:24
room. In case you guys are bored out
3:13:25
of your mind the next time I do a stream.
3:13:28
Come on in. We could talk about some.
3:13:30
Thanks and even to the naysayers out there, you know, the the
3:13:34
beloveds, you know, you got problem with me when they talk
3:13:37
about your Calvinism or your your the non free graces or even
3:13:42
the nonsense. Come on in and we can talk about
3:13:44
it. All right.
3:13:46
But anyway, with that said, I'm going to end with my usual my
3:13:53
what do you call it? What?
3:13:54
What's those words anyway? I can't think of a word, but
3:13:59
First Corinthians 1031 Whether therefore you eat or drink,
3:14:03
whatsoever you do, do all to the glory of God.
3:14:09
And with that I say, take care, God bless.
3:14:14
See you later. The.
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The. The.
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