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Episode 1519 - Missouri AG Andrew Bailey On Epstein And Diddy · Drinkin‘ Bros Podcast

• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll cook to drink you thrones, presented by OmahaState.com Sit back relax and have a bucket trick trick trick
• 0:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, welcome to drink in bro's kids live on YouTube for this Wednesday edition of the show.
• 0:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, some days you just get lucky, Anthony.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some days there's a couple huge court announcements that happen to drop and we've got one of the most prominent ages in America to answer some of our questions here.
• 0:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: The attorney general of Missouri and Jubilee is back.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are you sir?
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, really excited to be back on.
• 0:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for having me.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are we saying Missouri or Missouri?
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how do we do we throw an A on that?
• 0:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: How are we doing it for you?
• 1:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I, forty four basically is like a run diagonally from St.
• 1:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis down to Joplin, Missouri, and anyone south of that generally says Missouri says Missouri, and since I've always lived north of that, I say Missouri, but you know, no judgment.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It can go either way.
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then I'll change mine because we live south of that.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now Sam Missouri, the great state of Missouri attorney general Andrew Bailey is here.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're I corrected myself.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: So breaking news at the top of the show here that we got to get into because I just want your reactions and thoughts on what's going to happen here.
• 1:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, the Diddy trial in New York.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: unavoidable I know you're a busy man and you do wonderful things not only for your state but the rest of the country but I'm sure you kept an eye on this he was only found guilty of two charges today which seemed to be just prostitution and not the biggest one which is the Rico charges in the racketeering there
• 2:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: The judges scheduled to go live at five p.m.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Eastern to announce whether or not he's going to get out on bail potentially and go home today.
• 2:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: How does that usually work and what are your thoughts on this case?
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's an interesting split verdict where the defendant was acquitted on certain counts, convicted on other counts.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It did seem like, so the evidence was a little bit questionable when you've got people testifying that they felt like they were coerced, but then we're struggling to articulate.
• 2:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, where the coercion was coming from and if somebody had explicitly told them that they were being forced and compelled to do something.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like the jury questioned some of that.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, at the end of the day, it's guilty of criminal offenses, though.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sure that the prosecutors will ask for pretty significant sentences on those guilty verdicts.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it'll be interesting to see what the court does on that.
• 3:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because he isn't.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's never been convicted of anything.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: The first time, you know, offense here and you're looking at two prostitution essentially charges.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Each of them carries a max penalty of ten years of peace.
• 3:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: But usually don't they do time served or some form of probation for something like that because those are the two low hanging fruit charges.
• 3:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they are.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And again, I think there's some aggravating circumstances, though, because it's not just like a John and a prostitute and some kind of consensual relationship.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was more going on here.
• 3:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: There were more facts.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so those aggravating circumstances, I think, would persuade or could persuade the judge to impose a more significant sentence.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the bond question is going to be interesting.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: At the state level, at least in the state of Missouri, defendant is entitled to an appeal bond unless they've committed some really specific enumerated offenses that are deemed dangerous.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's all guided by statute.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not certain at the federal level or how that's going to work in this instance, but I think the default setting is usually to grant an appeal bond and let the defendant be out while they're appealing the case.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that appeal can take eighteen to twenty four months.
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I'm looking at this right now because they just sent this letter into the judge here.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they're saying a million dollars bond, forfeited passports, restricted travel to Miami, New York and Los Angeles, only.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I assume that's where he has homes.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously the forfeiture of passports and then drug testing.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you see it going any other way this afternoon?
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now I think that that makes a lot of sense and you know again it's restricting his movement it's prohibiting him from leaving the country it's you know he can he can have that appeal bond revoked very quickly if you violate those conditions of bond and so clearly the court's going to keep a thumb on him while he appeals his convictions.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because a lot of the talk today has been centered around the prosecution in this more specifically James Comey's daughter who has somehow magically made her way under this prosecution up in New York.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: She finds her way onto a lot of things.
• 5:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which seems odd to me.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why does this keep happening?
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 5:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's supposed to be a lottery, right?
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it randomly assigned.
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And New York's system, I believe it's a random assignment.
• 5:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's all.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure how that keeps happening, but it's certainly causes people, reasonable minded people like ourselves to question the integrity of the process, right?
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of questions about things going on.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it just keeps popping up everywhere we go.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the next one is obviously the Idaho murders.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, that guy came into court, uh, about an hour ago right now.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: He has pled guilty to the murders of the four victims there.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's crazy to me because it's like, uh, uh, I, I haven't really followed the case, but I've followed cases before.
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: What was the discovery process for his defense team that required this amount of time to realize he was fucked?
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it should have been much.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, under Brady V. Maryland, which is a United States Supreme Court case from the early sixties, the United States Supreme Court has said that basically the police and the prosecutors have to turn over everything they've got.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And as a prosecutor, it's best practices.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's turnover.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everything is quickly as possible.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's not in civil law.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: You kind of have these discovery games where it's tied the ball and you're fighting over the particularities of discovery.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And what gets revealed and what doesn't it on what timeline?
• 6:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: from the prosecution standpoint, you just send it all instantly.
• 6:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the defendant should have everything, you know, almost instantaneous upon their indictment or as soon as they get a counsel to their appearance on the defendant's behalf.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what did take this long?
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's really significant too.
• 7:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: The victims, I mean, it seems to me that a lot of the victims family members are speaking out against this plea deal and are not happy and dissatisfied.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And most states victims have rights.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly true.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: in the state of Missouri under article one section thirty two of the Missouri Constitution.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Victims have have constitutional statutory rights and so it will be interesting to see what the court does.
• 7:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I you know the victims presumably would get a chance to speak at sitting and speak out against what they would consider to be a lenient punishment and dissatisfaction with the process so it's going to be interesting here from them.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because the victims' families are split.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some of them want him to stay in prison for the next sixty-five years of his life because that's a living hell on its own.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other two were really advocating for the death penalty there.
• 7:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: But once it's done, it's done, and it's over.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So there will be no death penalty.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He will spend the rest of his life in jail.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing essentially that they can do with this point.
• 8:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's weird to me that
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: They continue to offer, I mean, after the court had spent so much time and money on this particular case, to offer a plea deal that late in the game, because usually a plea deal is like one of the major reasons to do it is to avoid the time and cost of this stuff, right?
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: If we can get this kind of plea guilty, fine, we'll make a deal and you can do life instead of death.
• 8:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: But this late in the game, that seems really odd to me that they wouldn't even accept a plea deal at this point.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a shocked everyone and it just popped up out of nowhere.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, shot this morning on the news.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, what the fuck?
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this has been going on for months.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going for a long time and he said, all right, I don't want to die and I just want to get this over with because me personally, Andrew, I thought he was doing this out of fame.
• 8:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: very similar to the Luigi case because how he was caught was on Reddit.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: So he started answering questions about the murders that he committed on Reddit which ultimately led back to him and everything else.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I assumed that he would want to be famous and have this trial go on and everything else.
• 9:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... you know two of the victims families said i don't want to see the photos and and all the other stuff in court and i don't want to relive these memories anymore and that's understandable as well but uh... yeah i guess you have the right to do it and and he exercises right so great i'll take life in prison and that's it
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's interesting, you know, the prosecutor didn't have to offer a plea deal.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The prosecutor said, and you can open plea, you can just plead guilty and see what the judge is going to do.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or you can take the deal.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's significant too.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: The way death penalty cases work, it's a bifurcated trial.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so the first trial is, did the defendant commit the offense beyond a reasonable doubt?
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, first degree murder,
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: intentional killing of another and then the second part of the trial is just as important in a death penalty case and it should the ultimate punishment be imposed and the jury has to weigh aggravating circumstances against mitigating circumstances and in Missouri at least those aggravating circumstances are again defined and statute
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the mitigating circumstances are it's kind of whatever the defense wants to put on.
• 10:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So in other words, an aggravating circumstances like, hey, you killed a police officer in the discharge of their official duties.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's death penalty eligible or the murder was extremely exceedingly violent wantons.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So like he mutilated the body or you've got a series of murders like we see here.
• 10:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: The mitigating evidence is like, well, look, he had a bad childhood.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't in the proper mental state.
• 10:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's other things going on that caused this kind of criminal genetic behavior.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the kind of evidence the defense would put on.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, it is a tall order admittedly to convince twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt to impose the ultimate punishment.
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: and find that the aggravating circumstances outweigh the mitigating circumstances.
• 11:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then of course there's the protracted state and federal appeals process, which usually costs somewhere between a million and three million bucks, whereas life in prison for most people, suppose again, this forty is going to be something like somewhere between three fifty and a million.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: So even at the high end of appeals, it's still kind of be less to just in prison and for the rest of his life.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe that's what the prosecutor was thinking.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and most of the stuff, Andrew, as you know, during the appeals process for death row inmates, strikes out like twenty years anyways.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it does.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: In Missouri, if somebody has received the ultimate punishment and have been sentenced to death, they get an independent review at the Missouri Supreme Court and it's a proportionality review.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the seven judges on the Missouri Supreme Court way, whether or not the sentence is proportional to the crime committed, that's a special review that's not conducted in other criminal settings.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then as you mentioned, you get
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: a direct appeal, you get a motion for post-conviction relief, and then appeal from that, you get a state-cabious proceedings, and then you get federal-cabious proceedings that in Missouri, my office can't apply for a death warrant from the Missouri Supreme Court until we can demonstrate that the offender who's been sentenced to death has exhausted all of those appellate remedies.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, it takes time.
• 12:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And look, at the end of the day, it's not up to the state.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're not driving that train.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's up to the judges who
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: can take their time and consider these things.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's up to the defendant, the convicted offender to file those proceedings to get that process moving.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so that, yeah, it is very time consuming for sure.
• 12:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and then I want to tie this together here for the next question because Bob just told me that James Comey's daughter was also the lead prosecutor in the Glean Maxwell trial as well.
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are the chances of that's up in New York?
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's madness.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I love.
• 12:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just keeps getting put on the same.
• 12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just a coincidence.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, like that that wouldn't be marine comies.
• 13:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: That wouldn't be all together weird.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you would use a similar group of prosecutors for similar groups of cases.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine because there are experts in outlining that specific kind of case, right?
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you, I don't people that are prosecuting white collar crime are probably not prosecuting brutal murders at the same time.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that typically true, Andrew?
• 13:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's especially true at the federal level.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: They break down and specialists like it really depends on the size of the office, which I think is also significant when we're talking about, you know, which attorneys are assigned to which cases will the New York office, I'm certain is huge.
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the staffing number.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So the odds of this particular attorney reappearing on these high profile cases is diminished by the high level of staffing.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, again, the state of Missouri, we do criminal justice differing.
• 13:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we have one hundred fourteen counties plus the city of St.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis that all independently elect a county prosecutor who prosecuted the chalkboard level.
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And some of those offices are part time.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: Some of those offices are have one attorney in them.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's some counties that struggle to find attorneys to to to stack those offices because they're in areas where just not a lot of attorneys that live there.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I live in a county of
• 14:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: or team thousand people and so they're not a lot of attorneys that live here that want to be the county prosecutor.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
• 14:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And since we are talking about Galane Maxwell, we and I meet personally.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: On this show, I've said it's for almost a year, whatever the last time you were here, I was personally rooting for you to be the attorney general of the United States of America under Donald Trump.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was there any conversations at all?
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Was there a short list on something like that?
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did that ever come up as a possibility?
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, first of all, I appreciate the support, man.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was great.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I got to meet with the president and his transition team and meet with some of his staff and just think the world of them, they're doing a great job.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, I think the president has found a fantastic cabinet to lead the country.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was a privilege to even be involved in some of those conversations to be able to meet with them and talk to them about possibilities.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you did.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you were in those conversations.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It was humbling to get to do that.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know where I rank ordered on the list for if there was even a list, but definitely got to have some conversations.
• 15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And again, it's cool to be able to experience that.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you were number one in our hearts.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you were number one in our hearts.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK.
• 15:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what really matters.
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And here's why, by the way, you are, in my opinion, I think the data would reinforce this.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: the most effective attorney general in the country.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: The historical COVID-nineteen judgment against China.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Credit repair fraud and the tax assessment, Jackson County and St.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Louis County's respectively.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Beating plan, parenthood, stopping Biden from paying off everybody's debts.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: with our fucking tax dollars, the meat labeling stuff.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's been, it's hard to find any, and I keep track of this stuff.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Newton up, Newton up in Montana is really good too.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I keep track of this stuff and not many people accomplish anything in that job, much less all of the shit that you accomplish.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I look at, I see your name in the press every day, and I look at what you're doing.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's shocking that you even have the time to do this, not only for your state, but for laws around the country, which is amazing.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I personally wanted you in there.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, hey, man, I appreciate you guys.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It means the world to me.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I mean, we've we've set them up, right?
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we have led the nation in so many ways that twenty four billion dollar judgment we obtained against the people's Republic of China for the wrongs they inflicted upon the rest of the world during COVID, the only state in the nation to achieve that kind of judgment.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's six times larger than the closest judgment in the history of the state of Missouri.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we're
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're breaking records, we're leading the way, it's the show me state results matter, proud of the work I get to do.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I got to give credit, we're credit to do me, and I got a great team around me, and you know, the quarterback throws the passes, but ultimately you got to have an offensive line, you got to have receivers, you got to running back, you got to have an offensive coordinator, you got to have a coach, you got to have a defense.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I've got a great team around me, and credit to the crew at the Missouri Attorney General's Office for putting us in a position to deliver enormous wins.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like to tell people too.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Even if you're not, if you don't live in Missouri and you're not a constituent, I can still represent you by fighting for the values that matter to you and me and we like to think we're doing that every day.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's the job.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so this latest ruling for the Supreme Court that kind of brought the district courts to heal.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The two things that are still outstanding are class action suits in the state attorney general still have the right as they always have to what launch what is effectively a class action on behalf of their state, right?
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a very important part of our of our federalist process to have the lower levels keeping the higher levels in check.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And look, our balance of power between the states and the federal government, those relationships are codified in the United States Constitution and they're designed to maximize liberty by constraining centralized authority.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so state attorneys general are the Vanguard and the fight and pushing that envelope.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: to ensure that the tenth Amendment still matters, that the rest of the bill of rights still matters.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're a federal government of limited authority, limited power, and so I think that played out of the past two years and our fights against the Biden administration.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Where you saw these gross abuses of power, you had the Biden
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: alphabet soup of administrative agencies are unelected bureaucrats unaccountable to we the people who the government's supposed to be serving who are promulgating rules that have the force in effect of law like the rule that schools had to adopt radical transgender bathroom policies are risk funding for free and reduced school lunch like Biden's holding our kids at school the most needy kids hostage or the department of energy telling you what appliances you can't can't use because they may or may not feel some radical left wing
• 18:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... wing nuts you know vision for a green new deal fail policies or the student loan bailout which was like you said just a redistribution of taxpayer dollars uh... to i believe uh... you know educated uh... individuals who didn't pay off the the the debts that they rightfully incurred and so uh... fighting back with the lawsuits uh... we had more than fifty something lawsuits filed uh... by the state of Missouri during that two-year period fighting back against the Biden administration towards the enormous winds i got to go to the united states supreme court twice
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: representing the state of Missouri and yeah we we'd not have some big wins that will be landmark decisions going forward.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes they will um quick question on that when you do that is it Missouri uh tax payer money that goes to funding that or is that federal funding uh for funding the lawsuits?
• 19:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's all within the budget of my office.
• 19:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: That budget is given to us by in statute.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's an appropriations bill passed by the Missouri General Assembly.
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• 19:58
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• 20:02
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• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So let's say you were AG of the United States, which was my dream and it's fine.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to ask you about the Epstein files here.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the top stories and this will relate back to obviously what has happened today with Ditty and the same prosecution team and all that other stuff.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is stopping this?
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you were in there, how would you have handled this, I guess, because to us, he died in, I believe,
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Epstein.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it was nineteen.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Allegedly.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, he definitely died.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm true.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, this case has also been there since twenty seventeen.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is stopping any of this from going out to the public in your opinion?
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think not knowing is the problem.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, nature of course of vacuum, and that's certainly true in our new cycle and the information stream.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so just being articulate and putting down the marker of, hey, you know, these are how many records we have to go through.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is how much staff we have processing.
• 21:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is how much time we're spending on it.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here the obstacles and barriers to being able to release things, I certainly want to respect the victims' rights and the victims' privacy.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so as the staff at DOG and the FBI are navigating that, I think.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: General Bondi, I think pointed out early on that she had issued direct orders that staff were not bearing out and that those staff needed to be censured and disciplined for failure to execute the orders of the chain of command.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: What drives me crazy is you get this kind of DC swamp mentality.
• 21:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: where you've got these unelected bureaucrats who think they're smarter than everybody else and will be there longer than the principal and they get to do whatever they want and that's not how this works under Article two of the United States Constitution all authorities vested in a singular president of the United States of America and he has a cabinet and at the top of that cabinet for DOJ is the US attorney general and when she issues an order you know those folks at the lower level better better snap to and get it done
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what's crazy to me?
• 22:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's article two section three.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: The thing that's crazy to me is that these people argue that they're trying to save democracy by literally undermining the purpose of the fucking vote.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like the constitution said in article two section three says exactly what he just said.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: The executive, the singularly elected executive has the right to do these certain things as outline the constitution.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, well, we have to stop him to save democracy.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have to stop democracy to save democracy.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck does that?
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just don't get it.
• 22:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Self-righteous jackass.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, speaking to that, federal judge Randall D. Moss today, ruled that President Trump exceeded his authority by blocking illegals in the U.S.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: from seeking asylum is now ordering him to reopen the border to asylum seekers.
• 22:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, obviously, the Supreme Court ruling, Trump will just call this guy and tell him to go fucking self, right?
• 22:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: One quick think.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, not one, but think.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's out of class, I can suit, and he's not representing a fucking state.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he has no case here.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why are these guys still doing this after the Supreme... This is...
• 23:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: You see it every now and again, but I've never seen in this volume, these federal district judges challenging the Supreme Court like this.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're usurping the judicial authority.
• 23:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're usurping executive authority and abusing the limited rule of the judiciary.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Article three says that the federal judiciary adjudicates cases and controversies between parties.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: They don't make law and there needs to be deference in making those determinations when they're conducting judicial review.
• 23:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: is to the executive and legislative branch.
• 23:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's especially true when we're talking about things like immigration enforcement or national security or foreign relations where the executive branch has plenary authority to deal with those things.
• 23:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so when the judiciary is stepping in and interfering with the president's exercise of his constitutional authority, they're not playing some super constitutional umplier.
• 23:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're actually violating the constitution, violating their oath of office.
• 24:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they should be impeached.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that Justice Roberts was wrong earlier this year when he said that, hey, look, we don't impeach judges because we disagree with them.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then what is the impeachment process?
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why would we have it?
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a check-in balance that the executive legislative and branches have against an overacted judiciary.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if we're not using it, it will grow stale.
• 24:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It will be impotent.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It will be useless.
• 24:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's absolutely appropriate.
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look, the president of the United States takes the same oath of office to protect and defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, just as much authority as the Supreme Court does.
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, broader authority in these areas.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's why the judiciary is the entity that's creating the constitutional crisis.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that Robert's categorization of all these actions as a mere political disagreement is completely false.
• 24:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're outside of their judicial authority.
• 24:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the, that's yeah.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Aside from direct corruption, that is the only reason that you would impeach somebody.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what the fuck does impeachment exist for, if not for that?
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.
• 24:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think if you impeach one of these guys, everybody else will shut the fuck up.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's got to be a man, an example of, in my opinion.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but who is it in when?
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that one that first dude is who I would go after.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's for you.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he should be gone.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no way that dude should be able to.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: the alien amenity enemies act of seventeen ninety eight is I want to what but that alien enemies act of what the plain text of that statute says that the president can deport individuals who are in this country if they represent a foreign invasion or comment you know disjunctive or predatory incursion
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Trinday Arragua is a predatory incursion, and that's what the president labeled as such.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was absolutely within his authority to deport those individuals instantly without any other process.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Moreover, look at the riots, the anti-Trump anti-ice riots that were happening on the streets of Los Angeles, California, where people were claiming that they weren't in the United States of America, that this property properly belonged to Mexico, waving the flags of foreign nations, burning the American flag, attacking law enforcement officers, and destroying property.
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: If that ain't a predatory incursion, I don't know what is.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: That is exactly why that statute was passed.
• 26:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the other presidents have used it in the past.
• 26:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Funny how when Democrats use it, the Supreme Court rubber stamps it, but when President Trump wants to use it all of a sudden, it's the end of the year.
• 26:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, in the case of TDA, even though while their host government vizuela doesn't like them very much, but all the surrounding countries consider them a terrorist organization.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: All of them, it's not just, we didn't start that shit.
• 26:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, El Salvador linked labeled them a terrorist organization way before we get involved in this nonsense.
• 26:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't get it.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then Andrew, in your opinion, what is stopping Trump from invoking the insurrection act?
• 26:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because at this point, this is kind of what this is.
• 26:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I looked before you answer right now in the BBB.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: There is something like a hundred and seventy billion dollars for Emigration over the next ten years or something like that.
• 26:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the number.
• 26:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We call that the BBB the big beautiful bill.
• 27:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, it was before it was build back better.
• 27:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now it's a big beautiful bill.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it.
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, omnibus bills are okay all of a sudden, but
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I understand that we need to deport a bunch of people that are not supposed to be here.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the government, the US government has this really nasty habit of creating permanent solutions to temporary problems.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you think that the next democratic administration is going to just fire all these immigration people, fire federal employees, never going to happen.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And here's how we know that's the case.
• 27:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The largest expansion of the federal government history was under George W. Bush, and it was the Department of Homeland Security, added about a hundred and sixty thousand new federal jobs, under Biden, it went to two hundred and thirty thousand, right?
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's growing and growing.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: He added an additional seventy thousand people to that.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's not going to go down.
• 27:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: What world are you living in?
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: You think a liberal Democrats going to come into office and reduce the size of government?
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are you fucking kidding me?
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course I'm not going to do that.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to happen.
• 28:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go a little deeper into your example, because I think it's really, really important that people understand this.
• 28:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: This was evidence that we uncovered in our case Missouri V. Biden to dismantle the vast censorship regime that the Biden administration that deep state have constructed to silence our voices on big text social media platforms.
• 28:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: all the way to the United States Supreme Court.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that department of Homeland Security that was constituted under President George W. Bush that was looking the wake of nine eleven, everyone said we need to be protected.
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: We need this agency to protect us.
• 28:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But then as soon as a Democrats in power, as soon as Biden's in power, he houses the the the the the nerve center of the vast censorship regime.
• 28:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Inside the Department of Homeland Security, the very agency that was supposed to be protecting us was weaponized to take our rights away from us and violate the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
• 28:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's scary stuff, it's or well-being.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so you're absolutely right.
• 28:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: In my estimation, it's a zero-sum game, more government, less liberty, more authoritarianism, less freedom.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why the structure.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: of our system between the federal and state governments.
• 29:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why the structure of the separation of powers in the United States Constitution.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's why the enumeration of those rights that come from God, not man, and the realization that the Constitution is designed and intended to protect us from the government is so important.
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• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and this insurrection act was designed in much, in the same way the alien enemies act was specifically for this purpose to be able to, I guess, deploy the national guard, right, and a federal capacity to deal with this problem, so you don't have to create federal permanent billets for it.
• 39:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the whole purpose of the insurrection act.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we've never had a better or more, like, just opportunity to invoke it than right now.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: So why aren't we?
• 39:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is a good question.
• 39:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Andrew, if you were in there, would you bring this to the table in front of the president and say, I think we should invoke this now because, you know, alligator alcatraz is fun.
• 39:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fun story in psychologically, it's great, everything else, but let's face it.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's twenty million illegal aliens in our country right now.
• 39:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: That ain't gonna do it.
• 39:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fun story in psychologically, it'll probably stop people from coming in.
• 39:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what's the stop president Trump from invoking the insurrection act?
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're right.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's the duty and responsibility of the president's team to bring him every option available and get creative, bring him creative legal solutions.
• 40:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when we filed the lawsuit against China, everyone said, how are you going to sue a foreign country?
• 40:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then we won.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was like, oh, well, that's great.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: How are you going to collect on the judgment?
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a process.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's in statute.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: We had options.
• 40:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: We got creative.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: We pushed the envelope and we won.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it can happen.
• 40:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's up to his team.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: to bring him those options.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But look, I mean, I think you're absolutely right, especially look at the danger that's being posed by sleeper cells of Iranians or Hezbollah, other individuals who have now, you know, they're in, and typically towards America is leaked.
• 40:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that that creates a real threat to the safety and security of the American people.
• 40:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we don't have borders, we don't have a country.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's why the founding fathers gave broad a plenary authority to the executive to respond to these types of national emergencies when you're dealing with national security, when you're dealing with foreign relations.
• 40:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the next up here, I mean, it's just one, the hits keep coming here.
• 41:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Paramounts just settled its lawsuit against Donald Trump specifically, sixty minutes.
• 41:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I predicted this, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago here, I told you the exact numbers in which this was going to happen.
• 41:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: However, one thing did not happen here, according to this settlements, they will not be making a public apology on air.
• 41:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: However, they are going to give more money and it is going to the presidential library there.
• 41:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And part of this settlement as well, they're going to pay Trump's legal fees, costs, and all that money.
• 41:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to release the written transcripts of future, sixty minutes interviews with presidential candidates.
• 41:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's really funny.
• 41:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Trump has the ability to do one of the funniest things ever right now.
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: which is take the money they give him to for the presidential library and make a monument to fake news.
• 41:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's exactly, there should be an entire wing of his presidential library with all the, a very fine people, Russia, all that shit.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not kidding.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, look, I love building a permanent monument to how full of shit those people are.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: So nobody ever forgets.
• 42:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you're one of those people, man, I read so much negative slander about you in the media.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's insane.
• 42:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Out of all the AG's, state AG's in America, you're the one that they target every single day.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you Google search or have the alerts pop up in your email about all the shit that's being talked against you in the media?
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, you know, I don't.
• 42:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I should, because I wear it as a badge of honor.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you're irritating the right people, you know you're doing the right things.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think the American public have just lost all faith and confidence in legacy media sources.
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's why shows like this are so important.
• 42:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: People are tired of tuning on the TV, tuning into the TV and seeing that fake news where they're clearly doing editorialization, editing and interviewing in such a way to change fundamentally an answer that was provided.
• 43:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we feel like we're being sold a bill of goods.
• 43:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's a form of censorship.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's corporate censorship.
• 43:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: We see that happening on big tech social media platforms with the algorithms, that the Silicon Valley Titans have a monopoly over.
• 43:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: that I think is an unprecedented consolidation of power.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we've got to stay vigilant on that, too.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, it's scary stuff.
• 43:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think people are sick of it.
• 43:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't pay attention, you know, but I do wear it as a badge of honor.
• 43:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And certainly, I have books regularly.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I get texts that like every time the St.
• 43:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis posted a badge right so negative peace on me, they text me and say, hey, we like you even more now.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you know, again, it can be a good thing.
• 43:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you don't mind, can I read the greatest hits here?
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's so wild that like,
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Usually when you have a name or a story or whatever, it's just related to one article and there's, you know, twenty different articles about the same subject.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: With you, it is wildly difference across the map.
• 44:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just going to read off the last two weeks if you don't mind.
• 44:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Missouri AG Bailey launches investigation into grain belt express power line projects.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the first one there.
• 44:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next up is Columbia's DEI initiatives under investigation by Missouri Attorney General.
• 44:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is that true?
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 44:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So first to our true.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 44:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next up, Missouri AG Sue's Jackson County over gun ordinance.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Also true, all in that one.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Attorney General Bailey takes a major role in representing the St.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Louis Police Department.
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true.
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just got a new legislation that makes the St.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis Police Department state employees and so they're the newest clients in my law firm.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good for them.
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 44:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Next up, Attorney General Bailey demands records from Missouri abortion nonprofit.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure too.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 45:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You a Supreme Court affirms Missouri's right to protect children from gender mutilation.
• 45:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: True?
• 45:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, also true.
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 45:11
  [UNKNOWN]: OK.
• 45:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these are wild across the boardier.
• 45:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a broad spectrum of issues we've tackled for sure.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is.
• 45:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: But like, how do you have this much time?
• 45:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll keep going.
• 45:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Missouri AG says Jackson County firearms.
• 45:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: That one's the same one.
• 45:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Missouri AG presses Google to investigate content practices related to firearm.
• 45:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what is that one?
• 45:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, our friends in the two A community are regularly censored, de-platformed, de-emphasized, got down by corporate sensors in Silicon Valley.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: This kind of what I was talking about.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Google is one of the largest big tech social media platforms.
• 45:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we need to understand how that algorithm works to ensure that consumers in the state of Missouri and across the country are protected.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: And at the end of the day, we have a second amendment right to keep in bear arms.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have a first amendment right to talk about it.
• 46:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if the section two, three of the communications decency act is being abused by these big tech social media oligarchs, that is a anti-trust problem, but it's also a consumer protection problem.
• 46:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: The state attorneys general are vested with being consumer watchers and protecting consumers of their state.
• 46:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, we've also one of the things that you haven't read yet, but I think it's really significant.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: We're the first state of the nation to promulgate a consumer protection rule that requires big tech social media platforms that big is for.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: to allow for algorithmic choice.
• 46:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: In other words, when you log on to the platform, they have to give the third party vendors the opportunity to advertise and consumers to select from content moderators that will curate feeds that are more to very liking.
• 46:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: So instead of having this consolidation of power and authority, and I'm an athlete over the algorithms, let the consumers choose.
• 46:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's going to be better for consumers.
• 46:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's better for big tech.
• 46:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: It opens up the marketplace and creates more competition.
• 47:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the whole idea here is that
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: big wants you on their screens.
• 47:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're more likely to spend time on their screens if you're getting a feed that's curated by an entity you trust respected like.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, interesting.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I just heard by the way that meta is making a play for TikTok.
• 47:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Have you heard that?
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's going to buy.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, some company that's rooted in the US is going to have to buy it.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: It'll be somebody.
• 47:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know who it's going to be yet, but one of the other problems that these social media companies are going to have to
• 47:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: deal with at some point is that it's becoming more and more verifiable that the bulk of their users are not real people.
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said this before, the organization that I work with, I think it's somewhere between like sixty and seventy percent of certain types of traffic that are completely fraudulent.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And a publicly traded company like Alphabet, publicly traded company like Mehta and now Twitter, who's private, are going to have to account for that, right?
• 47:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you have a fiduciary responsibility to your shareholders.
• 48:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're telling them numbers that aren't real or if you're telling advertisers numbers that aren't real, that is fraud.
• 48:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if they're going to have to deal with this at some point, they're pretending it doesn't exist right now.
• 48:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm telling you that it does and we can verify it.
• 48:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And some of this information is going to be coming out over the next couple of months.
• 48:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to be very bad for these companies that don't get out ahead of it.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and what's interesting, Andrew, is on our social media platforms, we'll see numbers diminished very, very quickly.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it appears that if some of these platforms are trying to get ahead of it by deleting some of these bots, but Elon Musk himself is, because he posted it, he said, dude, it's like, whack him all, we can't stop all these people here.
• 48:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not true.
• 48:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I don't know if he's either ignorant or lying about that, because we can identify him.
• 48:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, like for example, we're doing a story on fake news tomorrow about two hundred and seventy thousand posts made over a two-day period.
• 48:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: From Iranian bot farms to try to nudge people in the right direction with regard to Iran striking our Israel strike in Iran.
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Two hundred and seventy thousand individual posts.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 49:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Over the course of two days, I mean it's incredible.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a huge bulk.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this is what the internet is right now.
• 49:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're on political spheres and in social spheres, so if you're talking about politics, there are foreign adversaries, primarily Russia, China, and Iran, but Iran's kind of a cutout of China.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Those three specifically North Korea to a smaller degree who's another cutout of China, who are sending out thousands and thousands of
• 49:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: individuals who each control hundreds of screens at a time and they have AI programs where they can type some inflammatory this or that on either side they don't care about the politics they care about the chaos and it alters them a little bit and post them all within a couple of minutes of each other and it one it makes the end of the person posting the dumb inflammatory shit think oh yeah people agree with me some of the keep saying this that can't so much for example and and two it makes people that are observing thing oh maybe I'm wrong about this because so many it's bandwagon fouls
• 50:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: So many people believe this.
• 50:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is this really a thing?
• 50:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it lends credits to it.
• 50:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's happening all over the place.
• 50:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Every single time there's any kind of political issue or social issue, right?
• 50:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: The transgenders and thing that happened that started back in around twenty twelve is when it started to pick up.
• 50:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a direct result of this social media manipulation, right?
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so many other things.
• 50:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to show it.
• 50:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do some specials on this show of
• 50:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to break down individual posts.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 50:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: That we're very influential from influencers on the right and the left and show exactly how they were manipulated, who was doing it and how it happened and all that stuff.
• 50:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's going to fuck once you see it, you won't be able to unsee it.
• 50:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm telling you.
• 50:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: And has that come across your desk Andrew?
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, certainly we're aware of it.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: The challenge from a government perspective is the opposite, which is the censorship, right?
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: The remedy for disfavorite speech is more speech, not government censorship.
• 50:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so shine the light and truth on it.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the best medicine for that kind of that harm.
• 51:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, look at the end of the day, I think we have to acknowledge that big tech social media platforms
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: we held enormous and unprecedented influence over public opinion and over public perception.
• 51:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And let's go back to the censorship piece.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, take the censorship that was going on under King George that resulted in the first amendment.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: When King George shut down at printing press in the colonies, the world knew he had done it and he was really stifling one medium of communication, the written word.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And yet when Joe Biden's censorship regime from DHS was demanding that tweets and posts be pulled from Big Tech in the twenty twenty and beyond,
• 51:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the, the, the, it was much more dynamic and nefarious form of censorship.
• 51:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: You could be de-platformed to emphasize and you're, you may not know that it happened.
• 51:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly your audience may not know that it happened.
• 51:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And they have a right to hear from you as well.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: The first Amendment violence extends not only to speakers, but to listeners.
• 51:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the meeting of communication is more dynamic.
• 51:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's visual imagery.
• 51:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's the written word, it's the spoken word.
• 52:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so,
• 52:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's dangerous, and it's scary that this consolidation of power in Silicon Valley wields that much influence.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think they owe, like you said, a fiduciary responsibility to identify when their voices are being amplified and it's not organic.
• 52:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not authentic.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, speaking of censorship.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Excuse me.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, clear throat.
• 52:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: You've experienced a little bit of yourself recently.
• 52:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was this event called Guncon, which I've never personally heard of before.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I have never been invited.
• 52:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it was held at this establishment called Twist Drill in Cleveland.
• 52:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And our good friend Attorney General Andrew Baylor was supposed to be a guest speaker there.
• 52:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ironically to speak about censorship, I'm not mistaken.
• 52:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Michael Fleming, I assume he's the owner of the building.
• 52:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm told the proprietors said that he can't come speak there.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now why is that, Andrew?
• 52:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why weren't you allowed to speak there?
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... you know i'm to uh... to conservative for guncon i guess uh... what happened was wow that's uh... that's a big distinction there could be a relationship should get some merch made this is uh... i'd replace that printer in the background with a plaque of that because that's amazing
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, but, you know, in Missouri, we led the way fighting against the gender mutilation of children.
• 53:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we had a whistleblower in St.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis from one of these clinics that came out and swore out and after David saying, parents weren't being coerced, not consenting to these dangerous procedures that, you know, the administration of powerful chemicals that forever altered these kids' bodies.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: The parents were being lied to the clinics weren't tracking any negative health outcomes and they weren't.
• 53:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: offering mental health treatments on the front end.
• 53:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: So instead of treating what was perceived to be a mental health problem, gender dysphoria with traditional psychology or psychiatry, they were racing towards the administration of puberty blockers, cross-sex armaments for which there was zero FDA approvals to treat gender dysphoria.
• 53:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: or referring kids that are under seventeen years of age, but dangerous and irreversible surgeries, Missouri shine a light of truth on that and shut the clinics down.
• 54:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was very aggressive and going after these people using every tool in my my arsenal to fight back to protect kids.
• 54:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want Missouri to be the safest state in the nation for children.
• 54:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: and the left despises me for that.
• 54:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, our general assembly passed a bill to outlaw it.
• 54:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: The ASO you sued, my office defended that bill in court and we were the first and only state to date in the nation to successfully defend that kind of measure the chalkboard level.
• 54:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Weeks ago, the United States Supreme Court handed down a decision that now puts us in a better legal footing and found that there was a rational basis for states to protect kids and it's not
• 54:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Sex-based discrimination to say you shouldn't be giving kids these powerful drugs when there's no signs to back it up So a big win there, but the owner of the venue hated my position on these issues and and whole guncon they weren't allowed to have me speak or that they would hold guncon liable for breach of contract So it looks like a beaten switch to me like you've got to know when you rent your venue to guncon Yep, that there's gonna be conservative showing up, right?
• 54:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: myself and other people were banned from the premises and canceled and censored from guncon for me at least because of my outspoken criticism against gender mediation of children.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be like twenty or thirty years from now there's going to be a lot of stuff we look back on and think what what the fuck yeah how are we thinking like how did that ever happen I don't know that that's true of other generations like what when I look back on the fifties
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: When I look back on the fifties, I'm like, yeah, the stuff that the FDA told us about food in medicine was clearly fucked up.
• 55:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there was clearly a monetary gain happening.
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the reason they did it.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's fucked up, right?
• 55:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But to convince people to mutilate their children is not something that's, you know, I side from circumcision, which is just mutilation, by the way.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no functional purpose for that shit.
• 55:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wish there's a little of the skin back.
• 55:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've got a couple of my house.
• 55:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, great.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll reattach you.
• 55:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, we can get it so back on, but yeah, like at any time, like the previous generation before ours, the boomers and greatest, I don't look back on those and be like, and see some kind of moral issue like this, like, I can't fucking believe these guys.
• 56:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's interesting you say that because I actually asked my mom about this.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And different generation and everything else, and I said,
• 56:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We do a daily show.
• 56:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going through all these things that to us seem wild and crazy and out of control.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, you've got to remember every decade went through this.
• 56:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: She goes, go back to the sixties.
• 56:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Blacks couldn't vote.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that acted in past until nineteen sixty four.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not true.
• 56:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: We couldn't do anything.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they voted.
• 56:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they didn't have rights.
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was some, there was some, there was some, there was some, there was some, there was some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there are some, there
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 57:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: We created these weird things like a literacy test or a poll tax.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Does anything that black people couldn't do?
• 57:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: We were like, oh, that's a requirement now, right?
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Which is by the way, what the Chevron decision overturned.
• 57:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: That has to be a law.
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: He can't just fucking say shit like that.
• 57:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's to be either of cons at whatever.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but even going further with her, she said the next one up was Vietnam.
• 57:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, everybody knew that was a war.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't have been in.
• 57:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were putting on the news every day and everything else and, uh, and people were sick of it.
• 57:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then I said, all right, well, let's relate this to this generation.
• 57:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: And her response was because news is a twenty four hour cycle and there's so much social media in your face every single day.
• 57:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's something more and more to get it enraged about, whereas let's take a Vietnam was going on in the days of Twitter and Facebook and everything today.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And all this shit was happening in front of your faces.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would be just as violence, just as everything else across the board.
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just didn't have the opportunities to see it in front of their face every single second of the day in the way that we see it.
• 58:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: The other problem we're facing is what you've said in twenty thirteen with transgender.
• 58:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have fake bots and everyone else who's amplifying a very, very minority group in the United States of America and exploding into this thing that we're all supposed to accept.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a part of the other issue that those previous generations simply didn't have to deal with.
• 58:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, usually it was the newer generation overcoming the moral shortcomings of the previous one, right?
• 58:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not new.
• 58:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's always been the case in human history for the most part.
• 58:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: What's new about this generation is that they injected all of these evil things.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like the new generation decided to do all this evil shit.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the older generation didn't stop them for some reason.
• 58:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why, right?
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Usually there's a battle between these groups.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yet, it's, I don't think there's ever going to be a period in American history that we look back on with more shame than this period right now because slavery existed worldwide.
• 59:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: As a matter of fact, the barbery slave trade lasted way longer than ours did.
• 59:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the UK ended in the eighteenth thirties.
• 59:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: White people ended slavery by the way.
• 59:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Stick it right there.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not that that's important, but the barberry slave trade continued and humans slavery exists today and China more than anywhere else, right?
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: They got a million slaves right now.
• 59:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: But let's just say you were able to get footage of that.
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Greta Tune Bear would be there in ten seconds.
• 59:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, she wouldn't.
• 59:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, she wouldn't.
• 59:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then it would be all over social media.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Greta Tune Bear only cares when white people do something wrong.
• 59:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: But any other form of slavery, they would have been there.
• 59:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's been a huge social media campaign.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't consider slavery in American national shame.
• 59:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I consider it like Crow Magden human beings being stupid, right?
• 59:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that carried over to some degree, but the new generation doing something that's evil.
• 59:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think this is the first time in a meaningful way we've seen it and develop a big part of our social sphere.
• 1:00:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, I mean, it's all Marxism.
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just Marxism is how it happened, but it's fucking nuts.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: But Andrew, to your point, and going against big tech and everything else,
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Big Tech is jamming this in your face every single second of the day.
• 1:00:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is almost as apparent.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've got three kids.
• 1:00:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It is almost unavoidable to keep your kids off an iPad for certain elements, especially in school.
• 1:00:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because now it's pretty much a requirement.
• 1:00:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Once you get to middle school and later on in elementary school,
• 1:00:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to hear things.
• 1:00:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to tell each other things.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some of the jokes that I've heard driving my kids home back from sports and their friends in the back seat of the car.
• 1:00:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, shit, you know about that?
• 1:00:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in my mind, obviously, I don't say that to them.
• 1:00:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I certainly don't let them watch this show.
• 1:00:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Never have
• 1:00:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: hopefully never will they're going to find it on their own but uh... i think that plays a major role in it and what you're doing with big tech and trying to keep them responsible right now i think is a major part of what's going to help this next generation get through this because if they don't
• 1:01:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, it's going to be real versus fake.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: AI is getting better and better every single day.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be fooled by, you know, different videos, speeches, pictures, more and more.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm certainly one of them.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm guilty of it.
• 1:01:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the last three weeks on this show, I think I've been fooled by seven posts that I tried to verify that weren't real.
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what are you guys going to do to prevent this?
• 1:01:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: And is there any rules in place?
• 1:01:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because right now, this big, beautiful bill from what I've read.
• 1:01:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to leave restrictions off AI for ten years.
• 1:01:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not great either.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not, you know, a few observations here.
• 1:01:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go back to section two, thirty, the communications decency act.
• 1:01:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that was the statute that was passed by Congress to protect the internet to protect the social media platforms.
• 1:01:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: It allowed the rapid growth, exponential growth of social media platforms.
• 1:02:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it was designed to shield them from civil liability from things that the third parties were posting.
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so it explicitly operates as a shield and says they're not liable as publishers, but it also operates as a sword and says that they're allowed to moderate content.
• 1:02:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it doesn't say that they have to be the only ones moderating content.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so again, I think that the nature of the way in which humans are communicating with each other today is different than when we work in.
• 1:02:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: It is hard to go tell somebody that they're no good.
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, and so, it took their face because they might punch it, right?
• 1:02:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're on a keystrokes on a keyboard on your phone or on a computer, it's easy to be a tough guy and have these kind of outrageous outlandish opinions.
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, I think that changes the nature of the conversation, I think you're right though.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have this kind of like dog pile effect where you've got bots and others that pile onto an idea for, or against something, they create an inauthentic experience for the user.
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's why our algorithmic choice rule is so important.
• 1:03:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: We have section two thirty the communications decency act, but it can run in parallel and be synthesized with state enforcement of anti-trust law or state enforcement of consumer protection law and ensuring the consumers have access to third party vendors to moderate their content is is a win for everybody and ultimately breaks up that monopolistic control that big tech has over the algorithm.
• 1:03:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, decentralization is almost always the solution for institutional power gone or Rye.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, it doesn't help that we've, we're in like year, I guess, sixty something of the news being completely full of shit.
• 1:03:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is an ABC tweet from today.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ready?
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: The leader of an MS- thirteen click.
• 1:03:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: and the suburbs of New York City faces sentencing Wednesday and federal racketeering case involving eight murders, including the twenty sixteen killings of two high school girls that focus on the nation's attention on the violent gang.
• 1:03:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: A click and MS thirteen click.
• 1:03:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck does that mean?
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is that like Maryland father?
• 1:03:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: We can't say you can anymore?
• 1:03:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, we can't say get on.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a terrorist organization.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: MS thirteen is a terrorist organization.
• 1:04:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hardstop.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's how it is, right?
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's very little news anymore.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's mostly editorializing in the problem.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate some of the things that Elon did with Twitter back in the day, however.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: This whole, we are the news now thing.
• 1:04:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, you are just like the old news because you're being influenced whether you know it or not.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like this, this shit has got to stop into Andrew's point.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sunlights, the best disinfectant and good ideas are the solution for bad ideas.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good and more ideas.
• 1:04:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The idea that government is somehow going to step in and fix anything ever is fucking stupid.
• 1:04:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: When is that ever happen?
• 1:04:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while.
• 1:04:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while, but at least Andrew's fighting the good fight here.
• 1:04:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:04:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's like his version of the government stepping into doing something is him stopping the government from doing things.
• 1:04:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's look at the net choice decision.
• 1:04:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: The United States Supreme Court handed down last summer, where they struck down laws in Texas and Florida that required the big tech social media platforms to alter their own internal algorithms and content moderation in certain ways.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: And the Supreme Court said, look, the big tech social media platforms, the way they moderate contents and feeds, is actually speech that is protected.
• 1:05:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: So those state statutes violated
• 1:05:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: the right to free speech.
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So rather than regulating the moderation and the algorithms themselves, moderate the marketplace and let the market forces provide the consumers with the best kind of content moderation or feed curated feeds.
• 1:05:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it'd be a great idea whether or not they'll actually do it will see.
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But another thing I wanted to commend you on is one of these stories I brought up about Columbia's DEI initiatives that were under investigation by you.
• 1:05:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, the Harvard's, the Columbia's, all these guys in the Ivy League have been
• 1:06:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... under scrutiny now for a long time and was just announced a couple hours ago that pen uh... will actually strip leitomas of all of those uh... metals as a transgender swimmer who beat everybody else and uh... they will be eligible for funding again i think if you guys get the trouble administration did that but it's same with what you're doing with colombia if you guys don't step up
• 1:06:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: uh... this funding will continue uh... and that will change children's mind back to your points of how do we create a better society so at least there is people out there like you fight in the good fights and it's got to continue here because these are things that are common sense and as up in my opinion and as we're watching these unfold
• 1:06:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Most of them are caving to these demands once they're pressed on the issue and they're going to lose funding.
• 1:06:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is there any other universities that you're looking at or any other programs that you're looking at going after in the future?
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, certainly.
• 1:06:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've been adamant about that.
• 1:06:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: We've gone after corporations, Starbucks, being one of them IBM, being the other where you've got on Starbucks, web page, they brag about the racial equity index and meeting certain hiring quotas.
• 1:07:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: But that's illegal.
• 1:07:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's always making employment decisions based on the color of someone's skin has always been illegal.
• 1:07:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's certainly illegal if you're in Missouri under the Missouri Human Rights Act.
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Most recently,
• 1:07:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: When we're talking about Columbia, what we're talking about is the city of Columbia, Missouri, where the university of Missouri is.
• 1:07:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: But the city of Columbia just recently recommitted itself to a DEI program that they instituted as part of their strategic plan in twenty twenty one where they say things like hey, we're going to start viewing our programs, our funding through a racial equity lens and promoting racial equity.
• 1:07:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what does those terms mean?
• 1:07:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: and they need to answer questions about that because either their vapid platitudes and these people are more ons or their discriminatory.
• 1:07:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And if they are discriminatory they're violating the law and we're going to hold them accountable.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, because as the rest of this continues to unfold here, the next one I'm looking at me personally is some of these protests in regards to Palestine and Israel on college campuses.
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's say this happened at University of Missouri, how would that shake out for some of these protesters out there?
• 1:08:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Look, everyone has a right to free speech, and has a right to voice their political opinions, but what you don't have a right to do is block thoroughfares, attack police officers, and destroy property.
• 1:08:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we saw playing out in some of the anti-Israel protests across the country.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's despicable, shame on those people.
• 1:08:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: In Missouri, it's a criminal offense to block a thoroughfare, to block a roadway that's publicly accessible.
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have a right to go to him from my job to make money to be able to feed my family and out there is idiots interfere with the exercise of mine right and so you know that it's important to respect the first amendment and have a place for free fair and open debate while not crossing that line to criminal behavior.
• 1:08:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the first amendment doesn't protect against false imprisonment, which is, you know, depending on the state you're in or if it's a federal jurisdiction, stopping some and peating somebody's movements and holding them in place can certainly be qualified as false imprisonment.
• 1:09:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you try to move them from one place to another, it could also be attempted kidnapping, right?
• 1:09:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, if you
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: wanted to get out that door and I stopped you.
• 1:09:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's false imprisonment.
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: If I grab you and move you to a different part of the room or to a different room, that's kidnapping.
• 1:09:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just, that's the limit, right?
• 1:09:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's that low.
• 1:09:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what these people are doing by fucking pinning people into classroom sometimes, like what happened with Riley Gaines, a couple of last year, maybe in last year or two years ago, shit like that, that's a fucking felony, right?
• 1:09:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is false imprisonment.
• 1:09:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the fact that it hasn't been prosecuted as such is crazy to me.
• 1:09:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and for you, Andrew, I know Ron DeSantis, Governor Ron DeSantis down the floor to one of the news and said, hey, you have the right to drive through these people if they're in peating your car.
• 1:09:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have the same law in your state currently?
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, Mazurians have a full and complete castle doctrine right to defend themselves, especially if they feel like their reasonable apprehension of immediate imminent danger.
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so, and in Mazurians actually, it's really unique, like we're afforded these great opportunity.
• 1:10:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: because it's not an affirmative defense where you, as a defendant, that we're charged, you, you have to put on evidence.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a special negative defense.
• 1:10:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: So let's say you did, let's say somebody breaks into my house and I shoot them and the prosecutor charges me with a homicide.
• 1:10:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I go to court and I'm nearly inject the issue of self-defense.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And well, now the state bears the burden of proof of proving it wasn't self-defense and they bear that burden beyond a reasonable doubt.
• 1:10:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: How do you prove a negative beyond a reasonable doubt?
• 1:10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: That gets really challenging.
• 1:10:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: The same is true on this,
• 1:10:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: open streets.
• 1:10:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's not confined to the house, like all of the castle doctrine, because that's what it most closely resembles, but you don't have to be in your castle to defend yourself.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: You have a statutory and a God-given right to defend yourself in the state of Missouri any time you're concerned about serious physical injury, imminent apprehension of imminent threat, and certainly, you know, that I think that's a powerful tool.
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I haven't seen it much in his state.
• 1:11:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Have you?
• 1:11:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, not a lot in Missouri, no.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's, you know, look, it is probably a function of those things existing.
• 1:11:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look.
• 1:11:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: consequences matter in life.
• 1:11:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: No matter what they are, you know, even the guardrails that we build for ourselves and our own lives, the consequences might be, I don't get the pay that I want, or I don't get the job that I want, or I don't get the girl that I want, or there's consequences all over the place.
• 1:11:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And every time we, as a society, try to reverse engineer consequences out of the way, we fuck ourselves up, right?
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't care if you're eighteen years old in an idealist.
• 1:11:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You still have to play by these rules we've agreed upon, and the most important one is that we respect each other and don't interfere with each other's right to live.
• 1:11:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's it, right?
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you can do that, you can do any of the other stuff you want.
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: You guys remember Mark McCloskey in St.
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis, he and his wife.
• 1:12:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was a BLM protest in the city of St.
• 1:12:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Louis, and this BLM protest entered this game.
• 1:12:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: And neighborhood was tearing property, was trespassing, was making verbal threats.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Mark McCloskey got an AR-fifteen, and stood on his lawn, and stood there.
• 1:12:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And he didn't point the weapon in anybody.
• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was an angry or threatening.
• 1:12:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was just demonstrating his willingness to defend himself, and a sorrow-spectrum prosecutor charged him with the criminal offense.
• 1:12:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps say, I helped draft the pardon document to get him clemency from our governor so that he was not killed until account for something that wasn't a criminal offense to begin with.
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was that you?
• 1:12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
• 1:12:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know those you.
• 1:12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Pardon document because I felt so strongly about that.
• 1:12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: This guy's exercising a second of him and right, again, those rights come from God, not man.
• 1:12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: The constitution, this, protect us from the government and out there that son of a rap prosecutor turned a blind eye to the BLM protesters who were trespassing and destroying property and go after someone for exercising their God given right.
• 1:13:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that same log is this here in Texas.
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you go, somebody's causing a problem in your neighborhood, you're absolutely within your rights to brandish on your property.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:13:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: You can't point the weapon out and you can't fire it.
• 1:13:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Fire and warning shots is against law and every state, by the way, don't do that stupid shit.
• 1:13:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to just, if you've got a shoot, shoot, to go.
• 1:13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's the rule.
• 1:13:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's just, it's a log here in Texas too.
• 1:13:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody's running a mock in my neighborhood and I want to fucking kid up and stand on my lawn with my fucking AR strapped with a suppressor on it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That is my right to do.
• 1:13:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: right interesting what about the wife who was kind of holding the martini glass in the little little daringer like this i think that was she cool or not like i just asked for for the future you know just my wife pulls hers out of her purse
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you know, it was a little less imposing than they are fifteen, but I think I got job done.
• 1:13:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 1:13:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Never go against a white suburban martini mom do that's that's the real thing.
• 1:14:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Was it a Walther PP camp?
• 1:14:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to remember what the fire I'm what I thought it was it looked like a little Darin drill a little something keeping your boot purse, but like yeah, it's an old school weapon But I loved it and you could tell she hadn't used it in a while probably wasn't loaded, but yeah, that looks like a Walther to me.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that was fun.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I know you're an extremely busy man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate the time today.
• 1:14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously now is the point in the show we get to the drink and bro with a week, which is someone who has inspired you or helps you become the person you are today.
• 1:14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who would you like to give the drink and bro the week, too?
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, that is a good question.
• 1:14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I would say I had a commander when I was in the army.
• 1:14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: There was a great mentor.
• 1:14:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: His name is Andy Fluger.
• 1:14:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was a captain.
• 1:14:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was a first lieutenant.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I was an executive officer.
• 1:14:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was the company commander.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, just a great influence on me.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Great all around human being American hero.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cheers, cheers.
• 1:15:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for us, by the way, we're a good luck charm.
• 1:15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: We really believe in you and love what you're doing out there.
• 1:15:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know that everybody who's been on this show is a member of Trump's Cabinet right now?
• 1:15:10
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• 1:15:17
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• 1:15:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in the bullpen, man.
• 1:15:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: If they got to go to the right, I'm in the bullpen.
• 1:15:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm right.
• 1:15:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm warmed up.
• 1:15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm a Braves fan, which we would fire our manager, but I would have already gone to the bullpen, okay?
• 1:15:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying.
• 1:15:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just saying.
• 1:15:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm throwing that out there.
• 1:15:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you being here.
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• 1:15:40
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• 1:15:43
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• 1:15:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Awesome, man.
• 1:15:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We love you.
• 1:15:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you've got a standing invite anytime you want to come on for real.
• 1:16:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're one of the best there is out there.
• 1:16:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we need more men like you.
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, thanks guys.
• 1:16:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Really appreciate y'all.
• 1:16:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good friends.
• 1:16:09
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• 1:16:10
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• 1:16:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're out there and your bread is just remember we can fucking kick your ass anytime.
• 1:16:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We can.
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't even think about it.
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: We can.
• 1:16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't think about invading us again, right?
• 1:16:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just don't just don't just don't.
• 1:16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's Kamala says don't.
• 1:16:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So was that what you said?
• 1:16:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Joe.
• 1:16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: What was it Joe?
• 1:16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: How that work out for him?
• 1:16:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it did not.
• 1:16:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't work out for the British either.
• 1:16:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:16:48
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