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We Get To Do This - Doomerang · Providence Voice

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  Father, we honor you. It is a privilege to do
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  what we do, and we don't take this lightly when
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  we say we get to do this. We really mean it.
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  Our hearts in what we're doing. We pray for our
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  listeners today that they will be inspired, will
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  be encouraged, will be motivated, maybe even
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  challenged to think and rethink things, especially
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  when it comes to their walk with you. We pray
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  for those that are Christ curious, that are examining
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  faith and examining what it might be to follow
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  Jesus, and we pray for them to jump on in with
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  us. So Lord, we do what we do for your honor
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  and your glory in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. It's
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  Wednesday, September 30th, 2026. We get to do
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  this. This is episode number 52. Well hello get
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  to nation hello believers in Christ curious it
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  is episode number 52 of we get to do this hello
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  my brother brother man we're just turning them
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  out aren't we 52? That's happening. We've got
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  a whole year. It's crazy. It'll accelerate. I
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  think November, we're going to see if we can
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  take even more of your time. Come on now. I got
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  plenty of time to spare. I mean, if we're going
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  to do Adam Monday, are you just going to do it
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  at home? That's your Sabbath, man. I can't wait
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  for you. No, I'll come up here, man. Really?
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  Yeah. I like doing it in the studio. It's more
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  fun when you can see who you're talking to. It
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  is nice. I agree. Just to start things off, during
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  my quiet time, which every morning, like you,
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  I used to never set an alarm, but now I set my
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  alarm every day, 6 .30 I get up, it's before
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  Tina gets up, before the dog is awake, I do the
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  coffee and everything. And I pray and I ask the
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  Holy Spirit, whatever you show me today, let
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  me recognize it as something that I need to look
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  at or something I need to discard, whatever's
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  coming my way before I open screens and all that.
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  get into the word and the devotional, and something
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  like, I've been thinking about this, you know,
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  we talk about a biblical worldview, and we say
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  that so easily, and I don't know how many people
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  really understand that if they're just curious,
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  Christ curious, what does that really mean? And
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  it hit me. There's this movie that was seminal
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  for me in the No Agenda show over the past 20
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  years. It's called They Live, and it stars Roddy
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  Piper, who was a professional wrestler, remember
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  him. You've probably seen the memes from this
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  movie where you put on these glasses, they're
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  kind of like Ray -Bans, and all of a sudden you
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  see the billboards. They don't say, you know,
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  buy this. It says obey. And you look at people
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  and they look like robots, kind of metallic robots.
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  Have you ever seen these memes? It's a movie
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  people should should really see because I realized
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  it is the whole thing is a metaphor. And it's
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  done by John Carpenter. This is one of his early
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  movies. I think it was from 88. And and actually
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  much later, Roddy Piper, before he passed away.
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  sent a note to Hulk Hogan in 2024 saying, you
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  know, hey brother, you know, I hope you find
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  your walk with Jesus, which Hulk Hogan then did
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  before he passed away. And this whole movie was
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  a metaphor for putting on glasses and having
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  a biblical worldview. In this case, it was kind
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  of, you're seeing the robots who control everything
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  and, you know, the new world order, but it's
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  really the same concept of, and there's scripture
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  about it too. You know of seeing things that
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  were unseen or actually, you know, you don't
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  even see the unseen, you know Believing in the
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  things that aren't seen right but this I urge
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  people to get it's kind of hokey. It's kind of
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  a I don't know. It's you know, it's not a great
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  movie. I'll be honest about it. You can probably
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  find it on youtube That's how how the right old
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  and hokey it is, but it really it hit me like
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  that is what it is like You you get saved and
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  you are able to look at things with a different
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  view, look beyond them, and sometimes see even
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  what's not there. Does that make any sense? Yes,
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  it does. Because that is having a biblical worldview.
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  It's like putting on glasses, the Ray -Bans,
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  as you said. It's like putting on these Ray -Bans
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  that now when you put them on, you see things
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  different. And once you've seen, you can't unsee.
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  So, the signs that you see in the movie with
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  these glasses on, you see, obey, consume, conform,
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  no independent thoughts, stay asleep, marry,
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  reproduce, submit, watch TV. The money says,
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  this is your God. Wow. I mean, think about the
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  significance of that, you know, for you cannot
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  serve two masters. Just all of this stuff. I'm
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  like, if you're wondering what it's like and
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  why we sound so happy, most of the time. It's
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  because we have, they're not real glasses of
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  course, but once you see, you understand the
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  invisible things like the steps, like in Indiana
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  Jones, like I am going to step over, you've given
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  this metaphor. Oh yeah, I love that metaphor.
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  I'm going to take this leap of faith knowing
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  that I'm not going to fall down into the ravine,
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  but there will be steps, you know, stepping stones
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  that just appear and then I can walk on them.
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  and it just hit me like, man, if you want to
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  understand what we're talking about with biblical
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  worldview, that's literally it. Unfortunately,
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  not quite as simple as just putting some glasses
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  on and you see it right away. It doesn't quite
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  work that way. Well, I mean, a lot of it has
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  to do with understanding, not just understanding,
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  but knowing the Word of God in terms of reading
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  it and spending time in it. Because whatever
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  we consume, whatever we're dieting on, whether
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  it's the old gigo thing, garbage in, garbage
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  out, you leak out what you're full of, whatever
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  you consume is what's going to come out. But
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  not only does it come out in outcomes or behaviors,
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  it comes out in the way you think and then the
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  way you perceive, the way you see things. So
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  to change your worldview doesn't just mean studying
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  more about the world. It's actually shaping it
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  through the grid or the lens. putting on glasses,
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  the lens of Scripture. And that's what's changed
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  my life, is being able to read the Bible on a
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  daily basis. And a lot of times it's like, it's
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  Miyagi, it's wax on wax off. You're doing it
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  and it is something that gives you something
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  every day, but really there's a bigger thing
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  going on. It's reshaping the way you see the
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  world. It's reshaping your vantage point or your
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  viewpoint. or your angle, your line of sight
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  changes. I'm doing two things this week. I'm
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  doing a wedding and a funeral. Those are two
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  vastly different scenarios. And a whole bunch
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  of baptisms. Lots of baptisms, yeah. A lot of
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  new life there, and yet a celebration of life
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  too, because the man that passed was very godly
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  and was really a model for us all. So that's
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  a beautiful thing. Those are very wildly different
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  settings. And yet from a believer with a biblical
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  worldview, I don't see those that much different.
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  They're celebrations, both of them, of life.
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  And so because this was a believer that passed,
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  sadly it was a tragic accident that took his
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  life at 74 years of age, yet he was such a man
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  of God and a man who carried Christ, he was a
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  Christ carrier, that it's a celebration. You
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  can't help but celebrate. Of course, we mourn,
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  we grieve. That's normal. That's a gift from
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  God. That's God's pressure release valve. And
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  it's a gift, but it's weird when you're doing
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  it. But there is a time to grieve, but there's
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  also a time to dance, a time to celebrate. And
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  Ecclesiastes. Ecclesiastes, I'm sorry, yes. I'm
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  just thinking birds. Whenever I hear that. You're
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  thinking E's. Yeah, just whatever E it is. It's
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  an E name. Yes, I just hear the seasons from
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  the birds. Yeah, so yeah, there's that. So anyway,
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  to me it's like my worldview helps me navigate
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  both of those scenes with joy. When I heard of
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  John's passing, because that's who we're talking
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  about, I had those emotions all at once. Now,
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  distinguish, because a lot of your friends are
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  going to think John Dvorak we're talking about.
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  Thank you for saying that. No, this is about
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  John who was in our church. And I know John has
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  spoken to John, his wife Kathy, but also they
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  sit on the front row on the other side. So whenever
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  I look to the right, I would always see him.
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  There's always a nod or a smile. He was quite
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  distinguishable to look at. But I had... those
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  feelings at the same time, like, oh, you know,
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  mourning for Kathy, mourning just for his family,
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  just the shock of it, but at the same time, like,
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  I know where he is. And we, we have a glimpse.
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  We don't know fully, but we know partially what
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  he's seeing, what he's experiencing. What we've
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  heard from other people. Yeah. And, and this
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  is really this, you know, death is, is what the,
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  that's funny. They have been thinking about this
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  a lot late. Death is the number one marketing
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  tool, you know. Actually, I don't want to get
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  to that in a second because we got a call in
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  between these two shows from friends of ours.
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  We've only known them recently and they're in
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  California and they called up together, which
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  was odd. And they say, we want to understand
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  about this religion thing you guys are into.
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  We were like, so first I'm on the phone like
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  hold on a second put I'm put on speakerphone
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  It was the first time that someone actually came
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  to us with the type of questions that I had and
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  that Tina had when we were just following on
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  this on this path and I had the feeling that
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  gave us both was like wow and and you know, we're
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  we're what's coming out of our mouths is things
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  that we had heard when we were just starting
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  out, but also A little bit of wisdom, a little
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  bit of things that we've learned over time. And
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  I just can't describe that feeling, man. We were
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  giddy for about two days. Wow, that was really
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  kind of cool, wasn't it? Yeah, it's a buzz. I
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  didn't know that that's a thing. It is a thing.
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  It was like, wow, this is like an upgrade somehow.
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  I think I said when you shot me a text about
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  it, I think I said, you got bit by the evangelism
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  bug. Yeah. Because when you get a chance to share
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  your faith and you know it's landing with somebody
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  who's asking questions, then man, kudos to them,
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  first of all, for them taking the effort and
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  walking in humility to reach out to you guys
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  and ask about it. Yes. That's huge right there.
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  That's half the battle right there. What's interesting
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  is they're asking questions that say, I'm sorry
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  to push back. You're not pushing back, you're
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  asking questions. Good questions, yeah. But that
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  feels like I'm pushing back. His wife is a lawyer,
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  you know, so she didn't want to come up. I said,
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  no, no, the questions are the questions. Good
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  questions, yeah. And it was so interesting to
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  hear, like, well, doesn't that just mean being
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  good people? You know, all the things that come
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  up in your... What do you answer when someone
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  says, well, doesn't that just mean being a good
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  person? Well, there is a snarky comeback on that
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  one that, you know, the road to hell is paved
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  with good intentions. I didn't play that card.
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  I probably wouldn't do that either. That's kind
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  of an insider joke, but even the devils knew
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  Jesus. They knew who He was, and they knew the
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  Word of God, but yet they just trembled. They
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  didn't know Him per se. But no, it's not just
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  about being good. In fact, the Bible even says
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  that our righteousness is as filthy rags before
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  God. In other words, the best we can be on our
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  own still comes up short. Because we're not talking
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  about just bad behavior here. This isn't behavior
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  modification 101. This is actually having the
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  sin issue in our life completely eradicated,
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  dealt with, put under the blood of Christ, dealt
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  with forever. for eternity. It's kind of the
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  wrong question, but it's well -meaning. I'm not
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  dissing their questions at all. These are legitimate
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  questions that people have, but the answers are
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  on a different plane and a different line. It's
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  almost like they're at zero feet and you're at
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  30 ,000 feet. Not that you're above them, it's
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  just a different perspective. When someone's
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  asking about, because my mom did that with me,
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  She said, well, son, I'm a good person. I said,
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  mom, good's not good enough. No, no, we've all
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  sinned and come short of the glory of God. You
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  can go to Scripture on all that. But anyway,
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  what great questions and their openness is just
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  amazing. And I found it interesting that eventually
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  it comes around to eternal life. And this is
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  a big one for me personally, and that comes kind
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  of back to the fear of death thing. I really
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  have that. I don't, I know where I'm going. I
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  know what's going to happen. I may be in the
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  upper deck in the nosebleed seats, but you know,
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  I get in. And with that, I just realized how,
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  cause I come from marketing, you know, my whole
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  career has been media and death is always, the
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  number one way to sell something. If you don't
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  drive this truck, you will die an unhappy man.
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  If you don't drink this beer, you will die a
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  man who never had a beautiful woman on his arm.
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  And conversely, I don't have to tell you all
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  the different things and how they market to women.
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  But I also noticed this, and so there's been
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  some convergence lately of both technology and
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  faith, but actually not really faith, more of
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  evil. So the big, we've talked about this, the
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  biggest marketing push of the last, you know,
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  maybe 180 days has been AI is so powerful, we're
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  all gonna die. Which is, you have to look at
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  it as marketing, you know, but it is, when you
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  bring up fear of death, everybody jumps on it.
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  I can get clicks, I can get all kinds of - It
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  garners attention. I can get all kinds of stuff.
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  So I just wanna play a couple of examples because
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  they really start to bleed over into what I now
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  consider our realm, which is faith and how people
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  look at the world. And we'll start first with
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  just listen to the words. The report is what
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  the report is because, oh yeah, we're all afraid
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  AI is going to kill us. All right, let's discuss
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  the elephant in the room. Artificial intelligence
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  is taking over. Public dialogue, that is. And
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  maybe the world, too. Are we screwed? Depends
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  on who you're asking. I'm sure you've seen the
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  headlines. There are industry experts that are
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  warning that artificial intelligence could soon
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  spiral out of human control and kill all of us.
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  My kids really enjoyed hearing this last week.
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  Others say that we have got about a year left
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  to regulate it until... And it's not just coming
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  from tech critics. Lawmakers in Washington, even
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  AI leaders seriously themselves, have gotten
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  in on the end times chatter too. This caught
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  my ear. Oh, we're now in end times. End times
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  chatter. So now you have my attention because
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  I'm not afraid of the AI marketing. But what
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  are you doing with this end time stuff? Do you
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  believe? earnestly believe that AI could kill
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  all humans. And what percent chance do you think
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  it is? If we take the right paths, then the chance
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  of something going wrong is very low. If we take
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  the wrong path... This to me sounded like you
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  can turn right or you can turn left. I'm just
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  hearing all these biblical metaphors start to
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  pop up in popular culture when it comes to this
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  topic. Then the chance of something going wrong...
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  could be could be even higher than that no i
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  think they are the potential danger they are
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  is probably greater than nuclear weapons god
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  forbid we have a charitable god for some point
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  here that really causes harm to people a i is
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  no longer it reaches that point where it's no
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  longer a tool of human beings it's an independent
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  species while it comes to terminate Doom casting
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  on both sides of the aisle. It goes to show how
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  widespread the concern is about AI. So doom casting,
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  doomerism. This is a real trend that is out there.
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  People are talking about the doomers. Of course,
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  that goes with the zoomers and the boomers. Now
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  we got the doomers, we got doomerism. To me,
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  it's like a doomerang. It just comes all the
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  way back around. I got to write that one down.
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  Over and over. Hey, that'd be a good show time.
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  Yes, it would. Over and over and again. It's
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  the same thing over and over again. The doomerang.
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  So there's even this, you know, in statistics
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  where you have a P number and the P number that's
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  in P in brackets, the letter P, that's like the
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  variable that you put into a model. So now people
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  are asking, what's your P doom number? Look,
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  I'm here to bring what's coming from the outside
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  and that's what it is. Doomerism is a big thing.
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  So Saturday Night Live, which I haven't watched
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  in ages. Me either. It got unfunny for a while,
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  and also it was too late, honestly. And I got
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  other things to do on a Saturday night. One of
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  the actresses did Dario Amadei, and it was appropriate
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  for her to do it because she kind of looked like
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  him. But then listen to how they portray what
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  he was saying. Anthrobic CEO Dario. Amadei had
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  recently stumbled through a press tour where
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  he agreed with a former Anthropic employees claim
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  that there's a 10 % chance of AI wiping out humanity
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  within 10 years. Here to comment is Anthropic
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  CEO, Dario Amadei. Thanks for having me, Michael.
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  I may have been alarming in my recent interviews,
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  but I want to assure you that if we can pressure
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  lawmakers to create guardrails, we will be able
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  to stop me. Dario, can you just explain how your
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  company isn't going to kill us? So, so the hard
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  question. It shouldn't be. You know, come on,
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  Dario. Come on, Dario. You can do this. What's
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  that? Is this how this guy actually talks? Well,
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  well, the the so so so bits. But now now the
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  actor is doing a glitching. You're now but now
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  doing a come on, Dario, you can do it. And then
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  the devil. Voice from the other side. Okay, so
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  you see where I'm going with this now. Come on
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  Dario, you can do this. Just reassure them. I
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  will. AI is the devil and I its maker. What?
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  No, well, so look, Sam Altman, myself, all the
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  major AI players, we have talked about this extensively
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  and we are all on the same page here. We do not
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  condone what we are doing. Wow. But this is...
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  people listen to this, and it seems like, okay,
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  AI is the devil. AI is the antichrist. Now, this
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  is where you get into a realm where a lot of
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  people are talking about stuff like this. And
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  in fact, there's a book out now by Naomi Klein,
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  not to be confused with Naomi Wolf, who without
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  her knowing it was instrumental in my faith journey.
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  Klein is a professor. She wrote Shock Doctrine.
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  I think she also wrote… Let me see. I think I
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  wrote it down. She wrote Doppelganger. She's
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  been around. She's an annoying person to me personally,
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  but the shock doctrine was actually pretty good.
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  And the shock doctrine literally is how politics
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  and marketing shock people into, you know, changing
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  behavior, whether it's consumer behavior. behavior
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  in the world, faith, all these different things.
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  So this is interesting when someone like this
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  comes up with a book called End Times Fascism.
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  Wow. Okay, there's a mixture of... Yes, and points
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  towards... AI. And again, we've got end times.
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  Now, of course, fascism, you know, just throwing
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  some Trump hate stuff. But it's just a quick
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  intro to that book. The CEO of Anthropic, one
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  of the biggest artificial intelligence companies
• 21:50
  in the world, warned this week that if AI companies
• 21:53
  don't slow down their development and install
• 21:55
  some guardrails, rogue AI agents might be able
• 21:58
  to take control of the Internet in six to 12
• 22:00
  months. The warning has revved up a debate about
• 22:03
  whether AI or advanced AI could escape human
• 22:06
  control and literally threaten human survival,
• 22:09
  which sounds again like dystopian science fiction,
• 22:11
  and yet here we are actually having that discussion.
• 22:14
  But there's something stranger happening than
• 22:16
  all of this. These dire warnings from tech leaders
• 22:19
  are growing alongside an increase in talk in
• 22:22
  fundamentalist Christian circles about whether
• 22:24
  we are entering the so -called end times. you
• 22:28
  know, the biblical doomsday prophecy of the end
• 22:30
  of the world leading up to the second coming
• 22:32
  of Christ. And thanks to today's politics— Which,
• 22:36
  by the way, somehow I don't think this guy knows
• 22:38
  what he's talking about at all. He just rattles
• 22:40
  off, you know, the end times, you know, and then
• 22:43
  the second coming of Christ, you know, you know,
• 22:45
  you heard about this somewhere, didn't you, Sunday
• 22:47
  School? End times. You know, the biblical doomsday
• 22:50
  prophecy of the end of the world leading up to
• 22:53
  the second coming of Christ. And thanks to today's
• 22:56
  politics, This isn't a fringe idea. It's being
• 22:59
  discussed by Vice President JD Vance. Take a
• 23:01
  listen to what the actual Vice President of these
• 23:03
  United States said two weeks ago during an interview
• 23:06
  on a Christian podcast. While I wouldn't be shocked
• 23:11
  if we are living in the end times, what I'm trying
• 23:13
  to focus on is doing as much of God's work as
• 23:16
  possible right now. And if that leads to the
• 23:19
  end times, okay. And if that leads to, you know,
• 23:23
  us building a better world. that thrives and
• 23:26
  survives for a very long time after I'm gone,
• 23:29
  that's great too. Kind of out of context, this
• 23:32
  clip, because he's saying something that I know
• 23:34
  you and I both agree with, but with that setup,
• 23:37
  all non -believers will hear is, oh yeah, there's
• 23:43
  end times, if that leads to the president leading
• 23:45
  us to the end time. I'm very worried that people
• 23:48
  are getting fearful and worried, and like, what
• 23:53
  can I do to stop the end times? This is why I'm
• 23:57
  bringing this to my brother, Pastor Jimmy, to
• 23:59
  help spin us down from this horrible place of
• 24:02
  where we're all, and by the way, I've heard anti
• 24:06
  -Christ end times throughout my career. have
• 24:09
  always said, oh yeah, totally possible Obama
• 24:12
  is the Antichrist, totally possible that Hillary
• 24:14
  Clinton is the Antichrist, George Bush probably
• 24:17
  the Antichrist, the European Union probably the
• 24:20
  rise of the Antichrist, end times, we're all
• 24:22
  going to die, fire and brimstone. Help us Pastor
• 24:25
  Jimmy. Help us now brother. Well, first of all,
• 24:29
  from a Christian point of view, which is us,
• 24:32
  we've been in the last days since Jesus announced
• 24:35
  it in the New Testament 2 ,000 years ago. That
• 24:38
  was the beginning of the last days. Now, we don't
• 24:41
  know what that means. There's no way to tell
• 24:43
  because there's not a definition and there's
• 24:46
  so much metaphor involved here. So, it could
• 24:49
  be thousands and thousands of years. It could
• 24:51
  not. Who knows? Here's the deal. It's a win -win,
• 24:55
  brother. Yes. It is a win -win. If Jesus comes
• 24:58
  back at the end of the Bible, it says, Maranatha,
• 25:01
  come Lord Jesus, come quickly Lord Jesus. Either
• 25:05
  way, it's a win, especially for those of us in
• 25:08
  Christ. But there's a lot of end time conversation
• 25:13
  built around some of the books that are apocalyptic
• 25:18
  literature, like the Book of Daniel, Book of
• 25:20
  Ezekiel, Revelation. These have apocalyptic,
• 25:25
  very cataclysmic, very fantastical metaphors
• 25:30
  talking about the end of the days or the prophecies
• 25:34
  that are coming. And we're seeing a lot of those
• 25:36
  things come to pass. It's a pretty exciting time
• 25:39
  to be alive. Just stay there. Explain why. I
• 25:44
  think people who are listening to us who have
• 25:46
  no idea, and it was not easy for me too. Even
• 25:49
  Revelation took me a long time to really start
• 25:52
  to kind of understand it, when you say it's exciting,
• 25:56
  why is it exciting? Well, it's exciting because
• 25:58
  we're seeing biblical prophecy come to pass in
• 26:02
  our lifetime, which is historical and precedent
• 26:06
  setting. But it also does indeed say that it
• 26:09
  could be that we may be in the last of the last
• 26:12
  days, but that is not anything to fear. It's
• 26:16
  actually to be celebrated. It's exciting. Now,
• 26:18
  it's going to be wild. It may not be comfortable.
• 26:21
  It's going to be a bumpy ride. Fasten your seatbelts,
• 26:23
  baby. But still, it means we're that much closer
• 26:27
  to be holding Him face to face. Now, at the end
• 26:30
  of the day, the perspective here, I even mentioned
• 26:34
  this on Sunday, it's the last days for everybody.
• 26:39
  I'm in my last days, period. So if Jesus tarries
• 26:42
  another thousand years, It's still my last days,
• 26:46
  so there is an urgency in me. You and I have
• 26:48
  talked about this. We both feel an urgency to
• 26:51
  do more at the end of our lives than less. Retirement
• 26:55
  is like, what? Why would you want to retire?
• 26:59
  Don't you want to make a difference before you
• 27:00
  get out of here? Don't you want to fulfill the
• 27:03
  commission that Jesus gave us called the Great
• 27:05
  Commission? To end well. And let's run through
• 27:08
  the tape and finish strong. I see all of those
• 27:10
  as wins, and I see them as reasons to be excited.
• 27:15
  All the fear -mongering that sells, because it
• 27:18
  is fear that sells, people are pushing books
• 27:21
  and pushing curriculum and pushing movies. Movies
• 27:25
  now have a lot of apocalyptic, end -time stuff.
• 27:29
  It always sells. It does. People get left behind
• 27:33
  series. That was huge. To me, it's like, we need
• 27:36
  to be celebrating. that we're seeing the Bible
• 27:40
  play out. We're seeing it substantiates and affirms
• 27:46
  and validates what we've read in Scripture for
• 27:49
  hundreds of years. Now we're beginning to see
• 27:51
  it come. Even this big, all of a sudden, Noah's
• 27:55
  Ark is a big deal, right? Because of this formation
• 27:58
  close to Mount Herod. Whenever there's new stories
• 28:02
  about something, there's always an entertainment
• 28:04
  product. There is a movie coming out called The
• 28:07
  Ark, I think it is. Of course. It's on the way.
• 28:09
  There's several of those, actually. Evan Almighty,
• 28:13
  that was a great one there. I'm just going to
• 28:17
  build a boat. I mean, I think God told me to
• 28:19
  do this, but there's some great lines from that
• 28:21
  movie, by the way. But anyway, so to me, it's
• 28:25
  exciting. So, as things are rolling out, biblical
• 28:28
  prophecies coming to pass, it just makes me that
• 28:30
  more excited. Now, if this art thing turns out
• 28:33
  to be real, awesome. If it doesn't, awesome.
• 28:36
  I don't really care. It doesn't impact me one
• 28:38
  way or the other. I think it's fascinating and
• 28:41
  I am kind of keeping up with it. But now, if
• 28:44
  you don't stay close to the source, it just gets
• 28:47
  weird. Now everybody's jumping on the bandwagon,
• 28:49
  which is making me less excited about it, to
• 28:51
  be honest. I'm kind of going, now I'm seeing
• 28:53
  it everywhere. All the aberrations. But anyway,
• 28:57
  this is a good time to be alive, brother. So
• 29:00
  this is my concern. My concern is that people
• 29:04
  are using this to bring people to faith, but
• 29:08
  using it from the fear marketing tactic. Like,
• 29:12
  the end times are coming. You want to be saved.
• 29:16
  And I just got to say from my recent memory,
• 29:20
  That's been said to me for decades and it never
• 29:23
  moved the needle It doesn't work if anything
• 29:26
  people go. Yeah, whatever. I See this a lot.
• 29:30
  I see and it's not always intentional, right?
• 29:34
  But I want to be wary of not doing that. So when
• 29:39
  these friends called, that was the one thing
• 29:41
  I was not. I'm not going to say, we're in the
• 29:45
  end times, brother. You got to get in now because
• 29:48
  the ship is leaving. You don't want to be here
• 29:53
  when it all comes down. Conversely, for believers,
• 29:57
  I think, and this is historically, I think, true,
• 30:00
  that when you get these apocalyptic predictions
• 30:03
  and books come out, you've mentioned this from
• 30:05
  the pulpit, 2008 or whatever it was, wasn't that
• 30:09
  supposed to be the year when the end times and
• 30:12
  Jesus was coming? 1988, 88 reasons for Jesus
• 30:16
  to come back, not 1988. 1988 comes and goes and
• 30:19
  people go, and I think that may weaken their
• 30:23
  faith. Right that people start to think well,
• 30:25
  what is this? I'm gonna leave or I don't believe
• 30:28
  or you know, actually what it does it inoculates
• 30:31
  people from yes, it's the boy who cried wolf
• 30:34
  syndrome, right and so The scripture talks about
• 30:37
  when Jesus comes it will be like a thief in the
• 30:40
  night Yeah, we will not be expecting it. Even
• 30:43
  Jesus doesn't know even Jesus doesn't know the
• 30:46
  Son of Man does not know the day or the hour
• 30:48
  and so it's so funny when we're but it does say
• 30:51
  that You're to discern the times. There are signs
• 30:56
  of the times that the Bible gives. So it's like
• 30:59
  a hint forward, but he doesn't give us the absolute
• 31:02
  details. And there are people who've built ministries
• 31:05
  and written bestselling books based off of their
• 31:08
  predictions, trying to put together the Greco
• 31:11
  -Roman calendar compared to the… you know, the
• 31:14
  Jewish calendar and pars it all out. Numerology,
• 31:18
  all kinds of stuff. Oh my gosh, give me a break.
• 31:20
  People have built entire numerology calculators
• 31:23
  with AI and it's, you know, it's amazing what
• 31:26
  pops out and my eyes go over it. Personally,
• 31:28
  I thought JD Vance nailed it when he said, I'm
• 31:30
  just going to be found doing what I'm supposed
• 31:32
  to be doing. But it was out of context in the
• 31:35
  way it was introduced. Yeah, I agree with that.
• 31:37
  But he was just saying, Yeah, whether it happens
• 31:40
  or not, it's a win -win. That's literally what
• 31:42
  he said, basically. It's a win -win. Yeah. But
• 31:45
  when you set up, even our vice president, our
• 31:48
  very vice president of these United States. So
• 31:53
  whether you're a believer or Christ curious,
• 31:57
  it's all going to be okay. Like you don't have,
• 31:59
  but there's so many, and by the way, just, you
• 32:03
  know, artificial intelligence, it hit me that,
• 32:07
  okay, Or as the president now officially, by
• 32:11
  the way, he signed the document. Yes, officially
• 32:13
  super intelligence, you know, it's Lake America.
• 32:16
  It's super intelligence. I think he should have
• 32:18
  gone of America. I think he should have gone
• 32:20
  one step further. You should just call the Trump
• 32:22
  intelligence. I mean, come on, man. You're slacking
• 32:24
  on your branding. It's not wisdom. I don't care
• 32:29
  what kind of intelligence you think it is. It's
• 32:31
  not wisdom. It's wisdom cannot come from pieces
• 32:35
  of silicon. There it is. You gain wisdom, in
• 32:40
  my opinion, by getting in the Word, discussing
• 32:43
  the Word with other people and just thinking
• 32:46
  about it. And through lived experience. That
• 32:49
  does help. Which these machines don't have. Correct.
• 32:53
  So, I love pastor -to -pastor talk. This is actually
• 33:00
  a great podcast, which you can find in the GodCaster
• 33:04
  app. Get it from your app store. I've called
• 33:07
  pastor -to -pastor, focus on the family does
• 33:09
  it. And I also love it when Josh Howerton does
• 33:12
  his pastor to pastor stuff. And I think everybody
• 33:16
  saw him with, I'm gonna get his name wrong, Philip
• 33:21
  Anthony Mitchell. Got it. I think that's it.
• 33:23
  Who was just, I mean, the guy is, you cannot
• 33:26
  help but be drawn in by the voice. You don't
• 33:30
  even have to see it. His posture is the intentionality
• 33:34
  of it. So I know a lot of people in our church
• 33:37
  listen to that episode or watch that episode.
• 33:40
  And it was phenomenally good, particularly how
• 33:45
  these two young men, because let's face it, they're
• 33:48
  a generation younger than you and I are, how
• 33:50
  they were just discussing their task in life
• 33:57
  and how they can get disappointed, how things
• 33:59
  worked out or didn't work out, and what they
• 34:01
  wish they had from each other. I mean, the whole
• 34:03
  thing was just phenomenal. I have a question
• 34:06
  about something they talk about, and I have an
• 34:10
  observation, because they did cross over a little
• 34:13
  bit into my field as well. And the first one
• 34:16
  was about his book, which is called Contend.
• 34:19
  And so I just pulled a couple clips from this.
• 34:22
  And here's why I want to ask you a question about
• 34:23
  this. That's great. It's called Contend. Yeah.
• 34:25
  You posted this on IG recently, and it's a quote
• 34:29
  from this book. For listeners, Contend, he's
• 34:32
  quoting Jude. Which is one of the most savage
• 34:35
  verses in the New Testament. I think about this
• 34:37
  every time I preach Contend for the faith. Yeah,
• 34:41
  once and for all deliver to the Saints, but I
• 34:43
  didn't mean to ask I don't plan to ask you this
• 34:45
  What's the 60 second story of why you called
• 34:47
  it contend? obviously is born out of Jude chapter
• 34:52
  1 and Contend for the faith would have just been
• 34:55
  too long to put as a title So I just took the
• 34:58
  strongest part of that word. I just took content.
• 35:00
  Yeah Yeah, and you know, it's like for me is
• 35:03
  that's the imperative of the text You know, so
• 35:05
  I just went with the imperative. Here's what
• 35:07
  you said about this. So you quote the verse.
• 35:11
  You said, Beloved, although I was very eager
• 35:14
  to write to you about our common salvation, I
• 35:15
  found it necessary to write appealing to you
• 35:18
  to contend for the faith that was once for all
• 35:22
  delivered to the saints. And then you said this
• 35:24
  policies that could eventually muzzle the scriptures,
• 35:27
  satanic delusions running rampant on social media,
• 35:31
  a growing hostility toward Christians globally.
• 35:34
  And time is running out. Now is the hour to contend.
• 35:40
  So I like this a lot. And I went back and read
• 35:42
  Jude 3 and I got the NLT version because it replaces
• 35:46
  the word contend with defend. And so the word
• 35:51
  is, dear friends, it's Jude 1 -3. Dear friends,
• 35:54
  I have been eagerly planning to write to you
• 35:56
  about the salvation we all share. But now I find
• 35:59
  that I must write about something else urging
• 36:01
  you to defend the faith that God has entrusted
• 36:04
  once for all time to His holy people. Jude 1
• 36:08
  -4 is the follow -up which is important. I say
• 36:11
  this because some ungodly people have wormed
• 36:14
  their way into your churches saying that God's
• 36:17
  marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives.
• 36:21
  The condemnation of such people was recorded
• 36:24
  long ago for they have denied our only master
• 36:26
  and Lord Jesus Christ. They didn't discuss that
• 36:30
  in in this particular piece, but I think it's
• 36:32
  important because he the the scripture says People
• 36:36
  have wormed their way inside like that worm their
• 36:39
  way inside from NLT Boy, do we know that we've
• 36:43
  got the rainbow churches We've got a senatorial
• 36:47
  candidate who has said all kinds of odd things.
• 36:49
  There's strange things happening at his church
• 36:52
  This to me is the warning now at the end there
• 36:56
  Again, I kind of hear a little bit of Turner
• 36:59
  Burn, brother. You know what I mean? A little
• 37:01
  bit of, you know, so I don't know exactly if
• 37:05
  he's trying to market to people using that, didn't
• 37:09
  really feel like it, but where he really took
• 37:11
  it was what was interesting because AI is the
• 37:16
  Antichrist or maybe it's something else. The
• 37:19
  ideologies that are hostile towards Christianity,
• 37:22
  Josh. Josh, there is another monotheism. That
• 37:28
  is almost an anti -Christ monotheism. It is one
• 37:33
  of the fastest growing ideologies in the world,
• 37:35
  and there are fringes of that ideology that is
• 37:37
  radical and hostile towards Christianity. And
• 37:41
  we can... Are you talking about Islam? Yes. I'm
• 37:44
  gonna go there in a second. Okay. You and me...
• 37:48
  Yes. You and me say a lot of very similar things
• 37:51
  on this. Yes. You keep going. Right. So I'm talking
• 37:54
  about radical Islam. So that's not exactly...
• 37:58
  in the church. So I'm not sure if he's connecting
• 38:01
  it to contend because of Jude 1 -3. I'm not disagreeing
• 38:06
  with him, but everything can't be the Antichrist.
• 38:11
  And I just don't know if that's the right framing
• 38:14
  for how we as Christians and believers should
• 38:16
  look at it. I'm just going to finish this clip
• 38:18
  and I want to hear what you think. And there
• 38:21
  are people who, for the sake of inclusion, Think
• 38:26
  that we are we are doing people good by allowing
• 38:29
  that ideology to can I use the word infiltrate
• 38:35
  and invade our political sphere and our social
• 38:38
  fear for the sake of for the sake of Let's just
• 38:42
  be inclusive and be loving at the expense of
• 38:45
  we will keep giving away seats in Office agree
• 38:49
  and we will keep giving away seats in various
• 38:52
  legislators across the country until the day
• 38:55
  comes where that ideology has enough political
• 38:58
  power. Can we just be honest? Until that ideology
• 39:03
  has enough political power to introduce Sharia
• 39:06
  law in America, right? Not disagreeing with what
• 39:10
  he says there. But the takeaway people have gotten
• 39:14
  from this is my impression is Islam is the Antichrist.
• 39:18
  I just want to say it might be, might not be,
• 39:21
  but we can get, people can respond very fearful
• 39:24
  to these types of things, and then miss the opportunity
• 39:28
  to talk to these people about Jesus. I think
• 39:33
  it bred fear, and that particular part of the
• 39:37
  podcast. I don't think that's really great, honestly.
• 39:41
  Yeah, I didn't hear that from that, but again,
• 39:44
  pastor to pastor. So I know where his drive and
• 39:47
  his heart's coming. is to win as many people
• 39:50
  to Jesus as we can before the end comes. I agree
• 39:56
  with what you said about him in terms of the
• 40:00
  principle that's happening here. It's interesting
• 40:03
  because you framed it as that Israel may be the
• 40:08
  Antichrist, or somebody has said that. But the
• 40:11
  Bible doesn't just talk about the Antichrist,
• 40:13
  it talks about many Antichrists. 1 John 2, 18,
• 40:17
  children, it is the last hour. Think about when
• 40:21
  that was written. Children, it is the last hour.
• 40:25
  And as you have heard that Antichrist is coming,
• 40:29
  so now many Antichrists have come. Therefore,
• 40:32
  we know that it is the last hour. So they were
• 40:35
  saying this 2 ,000 years ago. And we had World
• 40:38
  Wars. We had a couple of things go down since
• 40:41
  then. Insanity. Yeah. But it just tells me, do
• 40:45
  you go, well, then it's not coming for another
• 40:48
  2000, or do we say, it could come tomorrow? I
• 40:51
  mean, so that can go either way. Right. And so,
• 40:55
  and then a few verses later in the book of John
• 40:57
  says this, he says, who is the liar, but he who
• 41:01
  denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the
• 41:05
  antichrist. He who denies the Father and the
• 41:07
  Son." So he just brings a clarifier there. But
• 41:10
  there have been many Antichrists that have come
• 41:13
  even in that hour, which was the last hour. So
• 41:17
  I don't hear him saying, and I have heard others
• 41:23
  postulating, that Islam could be. I've even had
• 41:29
  just mental images, I wouldn't say spiritual
• 41:32
  visions, but just mental images of what some
• 41:36
  of the descriptions of the hordes of locusts
• 41:39
  and the plagues are going to come in the book
• 41:41
  of Revelation. I could see that being a horde
• 41:43
  of black hoods. I've got to fix our screens at
• 41:47
  home. I'm just going, whoa, wow. Well, let me
• 41:54
  put it this way. The same thing that that news
• 41:56
  guy did with the vice president, clips with scary
• 42:00
  music is done with this. And I just want to Thank
• 42:04
  you. You just said exactly what needs to be said.
• 42:06
  This last hour, God doesn't have a clock, He's
• 42:10
  not wearing a Timex, He's got His own completely
• 42:15
  holy time for anything He wants, and we don't
• 42:18
  have to get all spun up about it because that's
• 42:21
  what I'm seeing. When you hear this guy's iconic
• 42:24
  voice, this Islam is anti -Christ, and you put
• 42:29
  some scary music behind it and it's on Instagram,
• 42:32
  people lose their minds. Yeah. I don't think
• 42:34
  he was going for that. I know he believes that.
• 42:36
  You know what I'm saying? And that's okay. That's
• 42:38
  like for real. Yes. And so my attitude about
• 42:44
  being spun up, no getting spun up. We cannot
• 42:46
  think well. We cannot think strategically when
• 42:50
  we're spun up. That's the problem. And that if
• 42:53
  there is a... an attempt to the Antichrist in
• 42:57
  terms of strategy towards, whether it's Christians
• 42:59
  or the world in general, is get them spun up.
• 43:02
  Keep them spun up so that they cannot think well.
• 43:07
  And so to me, it's like, hear that and I say,
• 43:10
  amen. Now, what are our action points out of
• 43:13
  this? So what do we do? Well, you'll hear throughout
• 43:16
  that whole podcast, we listened to it as well.
• 43:19
  They're talking about the gospel, gospelizing
• 43:22
  the world, getting Jesus out there. they'll arrive
• 43:25
  at that, but they're getting to that. But also,
• 43:29
  the prophetic pastor, the pastor's prophetic
• 43:31
  voice, there's a responsibility for us to call
• 43:34
  things out. And so, when you get a bunch of pastors
• 43:37
  calling it out, some will do it nefariously or
• 43:40
  do it for more clicks and likes. Josh Howerton
• 43:43
  doesn't need more clicks right now. He's bigger
• 43:46
  than Rogan now. So, he's not going for that.
• 43:50
  And I don't see him as the type He's a guy of
• 43:53
  high integrity. But this is not what I'm saying.
• 43:56
  I know what you're saying. I'm saying is how...
• 43:57
  The verbiage. And it's clipped and it's put with
• 44:00
  scary music and it's going viral. Very few people
• 44:03
  watch them. I didn't hear music on that. No,
• 44:04
  because this is from the original piece, but
• 44:07
  people have seen this. Oh, oh, gotcha, gotcha.
• 44:11
  I'll bring some examples of that next time. So,
• 44:14
  but I actually, I'm right in alignment with him
• 44:16
  in terms of, you know, there are things that
• 44:20
  are bearing down upon us as people. And I do
• 44:24
  believe Islam is one of those, just looking at
• 44:27
  their history and their repetitive, their cyclical
• 44:29
  patterns. And so we know that's here. It's not
• 44:32
  coming. It's here. It's kind of like the line
• 44:34
  from Twister. It's not coming. It's already here.
• 44:38
  So yeah, I'm in agreement with that. I listened
• 44:42
  to the same podcast and my heart didn't get up.
• 44:46
  My pulse didn't rise. Mine neither. I'm just
• 44:49
  saying, yes, it is true. Now, do I think they
• 44:53
  are the Antichrist? I think they are an Antichrist.
• 44:56
  So, I'm in text groups with other believers,
• 45:00
  with men. This is perceived different than you
• 45:03
  perceive it or that I perceive it. This is perceived
• 45:06
  as, holy crap, this is happening. These towel
• 45:11
  heads, I mean, this is the kind of stuff that
• 45:13
  pops up from believers. I'm like, what is going
• 45:15
  on with this? Just one, and you brought a great
• 45:19
  clip from John Eldridge said, we need to play.
• 45:23
  Just one factual bit, because the pastor brought
• 45:27
  in some stuff that I'm very aware of or aware
• 45:30
  that it's not happening. In case people heard
• 45:32
  this, I want to put their minds at rest about
• 45:35
  this bit. There are talks right now about a ten
• 45:37
  -nation confederacy. This is just not true. And
• 45:41
  that's been out there a long time. For a long
• 45:43
  time. So I think about things like that. There
• 45:46
  are talks right now in other nations trying to
• 45:48
  do what's called like an identity chip. Their
• 45:50
  nations right now talking about enforcing on
• 45:53
  their people a chip for identity I mean, this
• 45:57
  is just categorically untrue. There is no embedded
• 46:01
  chip, you know, there's no digital money other
• 46:03
  than the credit I mean you can go back and when
• 46:06
  credit cards keep people you came out people
• 46:07
  were talking about this being You know the mark
• 46:09
  of the beast. I mean, this is nothing new But
• 46:12
  he's kind of reading it as a headline and it's
• 46:15
  definitely not true would allow you to watch
• 46:17
  buy sell have commerce and that without that
• 46:22
  identity chip you will live like a no man in
• 46:24
  society there talks about that right now as you
• 46:26
  are sitting you are not sitting at this table
• 46:28
  right so when I think about things like that
• 46:31
  things that are clearly written scripture things
• 46:34
  that are gonna unfold in the end times as catalogical
• 46:36
  scriptures that are in there Josh when I look
• 46:39
  at the news in the United States okay so I just
• 46:42
  want to put people because this flows right into
• 46:45
  data centers and flock cameras and people get
• 46:47
  really whacked out about it. It's not true. There
• 46:51
  is no 10 nation, you know, confederacy. I mean,
• 46:57
  we all have, yes, identity cards for sure. I
• 47:01
  rue the day when we'll have to use our digital
• 47:04
  ID to get on the internet. I don't think that'll
• 47:07
  happen very easily in America. You know, they've
• 47:09
  been trying this for a long time, but I've been
• 47:11
  hearing this for 20 years. So when he kind of
• 47:16
  reads that as a headline, I'm like, no, I just
• 47:18
  got to say, no, that's, that's not it. That's
• 47:19
  it. Otherwise, love this guy. Love Josh Howerton.
• 47:24
  Um, but I, you know, he's number one. It's like
• 47:27
  people believe everything Rogan says too. And
• 47:30
  sometimes it's just not right. It's that old,
• 47:33
  that old adage, keep your wits about you. Yeah.
• 47:35
  Yeah. And that's what we need to do is I love
• 47:38
  your description of hair on fire. It looks like
• 47:40
  a dumpster fires. I mean, because that is. We
• 47:44
  are called to be and live at peace We've not
• 47:47
  been given the spirit of fear scripture says
• 47:50
  but of power and of love and of a sound mind
• 47:54
  Yes, and I do keep coming harkening back to this
• 47:57
  because while I say amen to this because and
• 48:00
  I understand there are pieces of that that are
• 48:02
  exaggerated and or just not but they're they're
• 48:06
  pieces of there is chip technology sure there's
• 48:09
  policy being discussed around I mean all that's
• 48:12
  out there, but When we formulate that into a
• 48:15
  narrative, that's where we've got to be careful.
• 48:17
  Well, the Ten Nations is literally from Revelation.
• 48:20
  It's been around forever. And the Mark of the
• 48:22
  Beast is like, how many times have I heard this
• 48:24
  is the Mark of the Beast? When some nightclub
• 48:27
  in Sweden gave people a lifetime pass if you
• 48:30
  embedded this chip in your hand for entry. I
• 48:33
  get it. People go, there it is. There it is.
• 48:36
  We're there. Bitcoin is, you know, that's the
• 48:38
  mark of the beast. Like, no, in fact, you won't
• 48:40
  be able to buy and sell without a chip. That's
• 48:42
  probably our way out actually. But you know,
• 48:45
  meanwhile, people are very happy to tap their
• 48:46
  phones to pay. Yeah, there you go. It's so convenient.
• 48:53
  So yeah, no, that's good observation. But again,
• 48:55
  keep our wits about us. stay off the text chains.
• 49:03
  I don't get it. I love my brothers and sisters
• 49:06
  in Christ, but sometimes we're tools in somebody
• 49:11
  else's hand beside God. No kidding. It grieves
• 49:15
  my heart, honestly. As a pastor, I have to waste
• 49:19
  time every service calming people down. I got
• 49:22
  a stat somewhere here. Let me see where it was.
• 49:28
  I think it was we read an average of 100 ,000
• 49:34
  words a day online, of which five to seven hours
• 49:39
  of being online. Just think about how much we're
• 49:43
  ingesting and how much we're writing. Tina and
• 49:47
  I always joke about it. Like, you could have
• 49:49
  written five books in a month. With just…and
• 49:52
  me too, by the way, I'm not excluding myself.
• 49:54
  Just the text that you're sending out. It's really
• 49:58
  quite amazing how much, but that hundred thousand…think
• 50:01
  about a hundred…how many words in the Bible?
• 50:03
  Do you happen to know? No, not off the top of
• 50:05
  my head, I don't. What kind of theologian are
• 50:08
  you? Did you have the whole Bible memorized?
• 50:11
  Come on, everyone knows these numbers. Yes, a
• 50:13
  microfiche in my head. You know, 66 books, you
• 50:15
  know, 40 authors. Come on, everyone knows these
• 50:17
  numbers. You're looking it up now, aren't you?
• 50:19
  I am. It probably depends on which translation,
• 50:22
  no doubt. But the amount of time we spend ingesting
• 50:32
  and You know, online people are, I wrote this
• 50:41
  term down. Over 700 ,000 words, depending on
• 50:45
  the translation. So that's a week, a week of
• 50:47
  being online. You've basically read the Bible,
• 50:50
  how about that? Wow. People are ashamed of little
• 50:56
  and offended by a lot. True. Online. So true.
• 51:04
  It's probably the enemy uses this. You think?
• 51:07
  John C. Dvorak said, the phone is the Antichrist.
• 51:11
  And yeah, he's probably right, but probably one
• 51:13
  of the Antichrists. One of many. One of them.
• 51:15
  It was a great trend that I heard about on this
• 51:18
  clip, which actually I saw, I like the YouVersion
• 51:22
  Bible app. It's, you know, it's one of the staples
• 51:25
  for me and it may not be the first thing, but
• 51:27
  I'm always checking in because, you know, the
• 51:30
  guy who does the, the Dutch guy does the project
• 51:34
  of love. Yeah, yeah. He was on it the other day.
• 51:37
  Oh, that's cool. He was doing the daily. Yeah.
• 51:39
  Well, that's awesome. Yeah, that was, I was very
• 51:41
  happy to see him. But like a week or two ago,
• 51:46
  someone, because they usually like, here's the
• 51:47
  bot, you know, I'm really excited. It's a script.
• 51:50
  I'm really excited to tell you about this verse.
• 51:52
  This is one of my favorite verses, and they do
• 51:53
  the verse, and they talk about it and give an
• 51:55
  inspirational message. I forget who it was. One
• 51:58
  of the people who was the guest speaker on the
• 52:00
  U -version app said, let's just pray. I had not
• 52:04
  seen that ever. Let's just pray. I'm like, wow.
• 52:10
  That was really impactful. And I picked up this
• 52:12
  clip and I was thinking about it in that regard.
• 52:32
  80 % of the people who are getting baptized say
• 52:35
  that Internet plays a big role in their faith.
• 52:38
  They call themselves digital missionaries and
• 52:41
  say their online prayer sessions are having an
• 52:44
  impact. I think this is something we need to
• 52:47
  investigate. I like that. Praying online. If
• 52:52
  you're doing Instagram things, I'm not, but that
• 52:56
  impacted me. I think this could be something
• 52:59
  really important. I don't hear many Do podcasters
• 53:03
  or influencers do this? No. In fact, when you
• 53:05
  asked me to start the show with prayer the first
• 53:09
  couple of times, it was a little odd for me because
• 53:12
  I don't hear that either. I love doing it now.
• 53:15
  I'm like, wait, we got to pray. I can't not do
• 53:18
  it now. It was unusual. It's not typical to click
• 53:22
  on a podcast and you're waiting for funky music
• 53:25
  or something, or scary, ominous music, The Exorcist
• 53:30
  files, that kind of stuff. But instead you get
• 53:34
  a guy go, Father. You hear the breath. Father.
• 53:39
  That's just not normal. And so I love that you
• 53:42
  asked me to do it. And at first I thought, are
• 53:44
  we going to keep doing that? And you did. And
• 53:45
  I'm so glad we did. Me too. And, uh, and I love
• 53:49
  doing it. It means a lot to me now, and I'm thrilled
• 53:52
  to do it. You know how many complaints I get
• 53:55
  about that? 7 ,000. Zero. Zero. Absolutely zero.
• 54:00
  I did get a nice note from somebody about that.
• 54:02
  Actually, it was really sweet. We got a couple
• 54:05
  of, a couple of notes and I want to, I want you
• 54:08
  to play this Eldridge clip because this is so
• 54:11
  seminal for what we've been talking about today.
• 54:12
  I think it really kind of wraps everything up
• 54:14
  before we get to thanking people. You want to
• 54:17
  just set it up? Yeah, John Eldredge, he wrote
• 54:19
  the book Wild at Heart, which is kind of his
• 54:21
  big seminal book and then took off after that.
• 54:23
  Now they have a ministry called Wild at Heart.
• 54:27
  Me and many friends have gone to their boot camp
• 54:30
  up in Colorado in the Rocky Mountains. Beautiful.
• 54:33
  And he's a therapist who was called a ministry.
• 54:37
  So his background is LPC, he's a licensed professional
• 54:40
  counselor, but he doesn't always talk like that.
• 54:43
  He talks more like a pastor, a minister. So he
• 54:46
  has this thing where when you're dealing with,
• 54:49
  he says, we have these constructs that we build
• 54:52
  where you get an impression, you get an idea
• 54:55
  coming in an intrusive thought. And a lot of
• 54:58
  times we don't question those. It's just, I'm
• 55:00
  thinking this. And another thing that we do with
• 55:03
  those, instead of actually saying, whoa, where's
• 55:06
  that coming from? Is this true? We just kind
• 55:09
  of take it as, yeah, I'm thinking about this.
• 55:12
  Oh, that makes sense. And then we will not always
• 55:16
  intentionally, but we will unconsciously agree
• 55:19
  with it. And agreement is the basis of covenant.
• 55:24
  It's striking the covenant. It's when you agree
• 55:27
  upon the terms of something. Like a deal, like
• 55:30
  making a deal. Like a deal, yeah. You're shaking
• 55:31
  hands. In Hebrew, you're cutting a cow in half
• 55:35
  and walking between the parts, right? So you're
• 55:37
  in the blood trail. So it's a serious thing.
• 55:40
  And he's talking about how we make agreements
• 55:42
  on an ongoing basis that we're in a sense making
• 55:46
  covenants with lies and untruths. And he's talking
• 55:49
  about this on a podcast with a guy named Ryan,
• 55:51
  I don't know his last name. It's called The Exorcist
• 55:54
  Files. So it's not - What are you doing in your
• 55:57
  spare time passing Jimmy? He's a guest. Well,
• 56:00
  I'm scraping the internet for clips. And I knew
• 56:04
  I'd seen him talk about this many times. but
• 56:07
  I wanted to hear him on this. So anyway. What
• 56:11
  is your prescription for taking inventory of
• 56:14
  agreements? Cause it sounds like this is not
• 56:16
  like, Oh, I, I was open to agreements at one
• 56:18
  point. It sounds like our entire lives, we are
• 56:21
  constantly, you know, at, at risk of accepting
• 56:24
  these things. Cause it's being darts being thrown
• 56:26
  at us. So what's John's wisdom for taking inventory
• 56:29
  and when should we stop and say, Hey, is there
• 56:31
  anything I'm, you know, wow, like that got me.
• 56:34
  And I didn't even realize that. Yes, okay. Let's
• 56:37
  first come back for a moment to our worldview.
• 56:39
  You live in a love story set in a world at war.
• 56:45
  It is a love story. The centerpiece is the love
• 56:48
  story. But you are surrounded by war. You know,
• 56:55
  Revelation 12, and he went off to make war against
• 56:57
  her offspring, speaking of Mary. Those who hold
• 57:00
  to the testimony of Jesus, right? So it particularly
• 57:03
  if you're a Christian you live in a world at
• 57:06
  war folks So that yes, this is going to be part
• 57:08
  of your toolkit for the rest of your life. It's
• 57:11
  very helpful I would say Ryan a couple of things
• 57:14
  one is pay attention to your inner chatter Right
• 57:18
  like tune in you don't be oblivious to your internal
• 57:24
  world And the kind of things that you think,
• 57:27
  see, this is the other lovely thing is to realize
• 57:29
  not every thought that goes through your head
• 57:31
  is from you. That's actually a very freeing thing
• 57:35
  for most people to go, oh, my gosh, this negative
• 57:38
  talk. You mean, it's not all me? No, it's not.
• 57:40
  You have an enemy. But pay attention. But particularly
• 57:45
  notice, I'm going to give you three things. Pay
• 57:48
  attention to the internal chatter. Notice what
• 57:51
  comes out of your mouth. when you blow it, when
• 57:55
  you look in the mirror, right? I mean, some people
• 57:58
  look in the mirror and just go, oh, you're such
• 57:59
  an, you know, like expletives, you know, or you're
• 58:03
  just so ugly, I can't believe you. Or even self
• 58:07
  -hatred, you know, I just hate you, I just hate
• 58:09
  you. Like, it'll come out of your mouth, folks,
• 58:12
  these agreements. But thirdly, and probably the
• 58:15
  most easiest test is, one of the things Jesus
• 58:17
  gave us is, you shall know them by their fruit.
• 58:20
  You can test anything by this. Is the fruit love,
• 58:24
  joy, peace? Is it goodness? Is it intimacy with
• 58:29
  God? Or is it discouragement, despair, fear,
• 58:33
  anxiety producing? Look at the fruit of it and
• 58:37
  just go, wow, why am I so afraid in this relationship
• 58:41
  right now? And then again, you have a shepherd,
• 58:46
  the shepherd and guardian of your soul. Jesus
• 58:50
  Christ, you can ask God, Lord, what are the agreements
• 58:55
  that I'm making with my enemy right now? And
• 58:59
  we'll take people through these exercises during
• 59:01
  our retreats. We'll take people, what are the
• 59:04
  agreements I'm making against myself or against
• 59:08
  others or against you, God? What are the agreements
• 59:12
  I'm making against you? This is so good. This
• 59:16
  is really real where we live. In his book, Waking
• 59:21
  the Dead, the book opens with, you were born
• 59:24
  into a world at war. So true. I mean, what a
• 59:27
  way to hook you in on the hook line, but it's
• 59:30
  so true. I want to read another quote by him
• 59:33
  from another book called Walking with God. This
• 59:35
  is John Eldridge talking about, because I want
• 59:37
  to clarify agreements so that people listening
• 59:40
  may be hearing this for the first time. I want
• 59:42
  to clarify by agreements. I mean those subtle
• 59:46
  convictions we come to, assent to, give way to,
• 59:50
  or are raised to assume are true. It happens
• 59:54
  down deep in our souls where our real beliefs
• 59:56
  about life are formed. Something or someone whispers
• 1:00:00
  to us, life is never going to turn out the way
• 1:00:03
  you'd hoped, or nobody's going to come through,
• 1:00:07
  or God has forsaken you. And something in us
• 1:00:10
  responds, that's true. We make an agreement with
• 1:00:15
  it and a conviction is formed. And so this is
• 1:00:19
  where people live. They live in their mind. We
• 1:00:22
  don't live out in the world. We say it. We're
• 1:00:24
  doing stuff. We're accomplishing tasks. We're
• 1:00:27
  checking lists, especially if you're married
• 1:00:29
  to Annette and Tina. We've got checklists, Easter
• 1:00:33
  egg, checklists that we're going through. But
• 1:00:36
  we don't really live there. It's what we do.
• 1:00:39
  Where we live is in our head. It's in our headspace
• 1:00:42
  and that's our soul. That's the whole of who
• 1:00:44
  we are. And so these agreements come in. Life's
• 1:00:48
  never going to turn out the way. Nobody cares.
• 1:00:50
  I'm never going to make it. I'm going to fail.
• 1:00:54
  All these come to us and then we find ourselves
• 1:00:56
  responding. That's true. That's true. And it's
• 1:00:59
  literally, we make an agreement with it and then
• 1:01:02
  it births a conviction in our soul. And then
• 1:01:05
  we, unfortunately, when you receive a lie as
• 1:01:08
  true, you actually make it true in your behavior.
• 1:01:12
  It begins to come out because we leak out what
• 1:01:14
  we're full of. So if we've got these agreements
• 1:01:16
  stacking up or we've agreed with the mirror,
• 1:01:19
  it talks to us, right? I mean, some days it's
• 1:01:22
  pretty ugly. You know, it's like, dude, what
• 1:01:25
  happened to you? This is why I have dimmers.
• 1:01:29
  We need that. We need a mirror. It has the filter
• 1:01:31
  from the white diamonds commercial with Elizabeth
• 1:01:35
  Taylor where she was fuzzy. I want one of those
• 1:01:39
  mirrors. But these are real, and this is where
• 1:01:41
  people live, our listeners, and I know this because
• 1:01:44
  I live there too. I have to catch these things.
• 1:01:47
  And you have to train yourself to recognize these
• 1:01:50
  thoughts, these intrusive thoughts that come
• 1:01:52
  because they're coming at us so fast. You make
• 1:01:57
  a mistake driving, you make a mistake. I'm always
• 1:02:00
  wailing on the guy who made a mistake. But when
• 1:02:02
  I make one, I'm going, oh, you're so stupid.
• 1:02:05
  How could you do? Oh, what were you thinking?
• 1:02:08
  And inside, this inner dialogue happens and I'm
• 1:02:12
  just making agreements. Yeah, you are dumb. Yeah,
• 1:02:14
  that was a dumb move. How do you break it? You
• 1:02:17
  have to break it by the same way you take it
• 1:02:20
  is the same way you have to break it. That means
• 1:02:22
  you have to disagree with it. So I call it out.
• 1:02:27
  I recognize it because you got to realize and
• 1:02:30
  recognize that it's going on. This is happening.
• 1:02:33
  And what's beautiful, the more you do this intentionally,
• 1:02:37
  over time, it'll start to become natural to you.
• 1:02:39
  Realize and recognize. Just make a note that's
• 1:02:42
  for your re -series. Realize, recognize. That's
• 1:02:44
  good. And actually, I'm going to go ahead and
• 1:02:46
  give away. This is total spoiler alert for Sunday.
• 1:02:50
  But I'm going to give the Rs, four Rs. You recognize
• 1:02:54
  the lie. You recognize that that came in. And
• 1:02:58
  then you have to ask, is what I am believing,
• 1:03:02
  is this contradicting God's Word? Is this what
• 1:03:05
  God believes about me? Is this true? I love what
• 1:03:08
  John was saying. Jesus wants to talk to you.
• 1:03:11
  He's listening. He's waiting. Just ask him, is
• 1:03:13
  this true? You'll get a witness. You'll know.
• 1:03:16
  So you recognize the lie. Second thing you do
• 1:03:18
  is renounce your agreement with it. And to renounce
• 1:03:21
  means to push back. It means to cast away. And
• 1:03:25
  to break a formal agreement, you renounce. So,
• 1:03:30
  you simply renounce. I can do it driving down
• 1:03:32
  the road. I can do it walking down the hall here.
• 1:03:35
  I can do it standing in the bathroom, just going,
• 1:03:37
  hey man, that is not of the Lord. I renounce
• 1:03:41
  that agreement in the name of Jesus. I reject
• 1:03:44
  that. So, recognize the lie, renounce your agreement
• 1:03:47
  with the lie, and then replace it with truth.
• 1:03:50
  With Scripture, what does God say? God says,
• 1:03:54
  I'm holy, blameless, and above reproach in Colossians
• 1:03:57
  chapter two. He says, in Deuteronomy 27, he says,
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  I'm the head and not the tail, above only, not
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  beneath, blessed coming in, blessed going out,
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  blessed in the city, blessed in the country.
• 1:04:09
  That's what he says about me. What does the Bible
• 1:04:11
  say? It also says I'm the righteousness of God
• 1:04:14
  in Christ Jesus. Today in my daily grind, I'll
• 1:04:16
  share this in a minute, but God's for me, not
• 1:04:19
  against me. If God's for you, who can be against
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  you? So what you do, you replace those lies.
• 1:04:25
  And then the last thing you do, the last R is
• 1:04:27
  resist. So it's recognize, renounce, replace.
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  And the last one is resist because the scripture
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  says that we're to humble ourselves under the
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  mighty hand of God, resist the devil and he will
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  flee from you. That's in the book of James. I'm
• 1:04:41
  just laughing because we have this Al Sharpton,
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  Reverend Al Sharpton. His big thing is resist.
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  This is a classic nine second no agenda Al Sharpton
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  bit that just, I'm sorry, this is not to detract
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  from what you're saying, but it's kind of funny.
• 1:05:02
  But resist, we must, and we will much about that
• 1:05:09
  be committed. I'm just saying. Word salad. That's
• 1:05:15
  a healthy dose of Kamala right there. But resist
• 1:05:20
  we much. When you said resist, I'm like, resist
• 1:05:24
  we much. And that part is actually funny in a
• 1:05:28
  way that is kind of true. Resist we much. Must
• 1:05:33
  and much. Everybody should check out the bridgefbg
• 1:05:38
  .com bridge church on YouTube. You can watch
• 1:05:41
  the sermon live or of course it's always recorded.
• 1:05:44
  The service, I should say. Heavy lifting last
• 1:05:46
  Sunday, I really went there. The title of the
• 1:05:49
  sermon is Renounce. So I laid the groundwork
• 1:05:52
  for week two, which will be this week, and it
• 1:05:56
  has already caused no small stir. I bet. I bet.
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  I preach on this about two times a year where
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  I preach on the enemy and spiritual warfare.
• 1:06:07
  The reason I don't preach on it much is because
• 1:06:10
  the enemy loves attention no matter what. He's
• 1:06:13
  like a bad politician. Any publicity is good
• 1:06:16
  publicity to the devil. You even said something
• 1:06:19
  about this in the message. You don't really want
• 1:06:22
  to be investigating this stuff because that's
• 1:06:24
  what the enemy wants. Exactly. So, I don't spend
• 1:06:27
  a lot of time on this. But again, we want to
• 1:06:29
  preach the whole counsel of God's Word and this
• 1:06:31
  is part of it. If you were born into a world
• 1:06:34
  at war, then this is the war. It is a spiritual
• 1:06:36
  war and it is real. And we got to know who the
• 1:06:39
  enemy is and how to identify him. And I hope
• 1:06:41
  for our listeners, our doers out there, and get
• 1:06:45
  to let nation. I got to learn to say that better.
• 1:06:48
  But anyway, I sound like Al Sharpton trying to
• 1:06:51
  talk about resist. But just tripping all over
• 1:06:54
  myself. Once you've heard that, you can't un
• 1:06:57
  -hear it. I know, you can't un -hear it. That's
• 1:06:58
  for sure. I may crack up when I read that on
• 1:07:01
  Sunday because this is where I'm going on Sunday,
• 1:07:04
  the four R's. I want to help our listeners understand
• 1:07:07
  that when these intrusive thoughts come to you,
• 1:07:09
  they are not necessarily your thoughts. We tend
• 1:07:13
  to just assume they are, but there's a very real
• 1:07:16
  enemy out there, a very real enemy. I prove that
• 1:07:20
  in the first, through Scripture in the first.
• 1:07:22
  Angels are real, demons are real, Satan is real.
• 1:07:27
  I brought out some of the characteristics of
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  those. We'll go back on this coming Sunday and
• 1:07:32
  I'll retrace a little bit of that just to set
• 1:07:34
  that back up, but we're going to say, this is
• 1:07:37
  what you do about it. These are the four Rs and
• 1:07:39
  this is how to do it. We want to help people
• 1:07:42
  because you don't have to live with those thoughts
• 1:07:44
  that are bombarding your head every day. You
• 1:07:46
  can actually arrest them. It talks about we have
• 1:07:54
  the ability to take every thought captive and
• 1:07:57
  make it obedient to Christ. God's given us that
• 1:08:01
  ability to actually capture thoughts. So when
• 1:08:05
  these intrusive negative thoughts come, don't
• 1:08:08
  agree, capture them and put them under Christ.
• 1:08:12
  Place them there. I'm telling you, I learned
• 1:08:14
  that principle very early in my walk with Jesus.
• 1:08:16
  That's probably helped you a lot. Oh, man. It's
• 1:08:19
  still a go -to. Yeah. I mean, it's, no, I take
• 1:08:21
  that thought captive. This should be in like
• 1:08:22
  the toolkit when you come into church. Survival
• 1:08:25
  kit for you Christians. Here's what you need.
• 1:08:27
  This is your, exactly. Here's your backpack.
• 1:08:29
  Here's all the stuff you need in it. Yeah, for
• 1:08:31
  real. Before we thank people, because we are
• 1:08:33
  value for value. If you get value from this,
• 1:08:36
  we'd love for you to send it back. And that can
• 1:08:38
  be in so many different ways. Time, talent, treasure,
• 1:08:41
  telling someone about the pod. podcast. All the
• 1:08:44
  Scripture, by the way, that is mentioned on each
• 1:08:46
  podcast is in the show notes at WGTDT .com. I've
• 1:08:52
  got to thank Robbie the robot, pulls it all out,
• 1:08:55
  puts it nicely on the page for us. We do have
• 1:08:58
  a couple of questions that came in that I don't
• 1:09:01
  want to skip over. Rebecca Gurl, Rebecca Gurl.
• 1:09:06
  She said, what is a deist? Because I'm one of
• 1:09:11
  the curious. She's Christ curious and she wants
• 1:09:15
  to know what a deist is. Just by definition.
• 1:09:20
  You'll hear this in history, like they'll say
• 1:09:23
  the founding fathers were deists, but basically
• 1:09:26
  it's someone who believes that God exists and
• 1:09:28
  created the universe, but generally believes
• 1:09:30
  that God does not interact or intervene with
• 1:09:33
  us. So there is a force out there. There is a
• 1:09:37
  God, the universe, whatever. There's that. But
• 1:09:41
  there's not really any interplay or interaction.
• 1:09:44
  In other words, a deist kind of takes the safe
• 1:09:47
  ground of, oh yeah, God's real. God's real. You
• 1:09:50
  just can't know him. Yeah. So that's deism. It's
• 1:09:53
  just a barely sticking your foot in the water.
• 1:09:56
  Is that a little bit like the old priest back
• 1:09:59
  in the Old Testament? Like, well, he's real,
• 1:10:03
  but you can't know him unless you go through
• 1:10:04
  me? Is it different? No, it's a little different.
• 1:10:08
  It's different because he's saying, you can't
• 1:10:10
  know him. You just got to use me to do it. That's
• 1:10:13
  not the same. It's actually this idea that, no,
• 1:10:16
  God's real, but he's distant. He can't be reached.
• 1:10:20
  He can't be accessed. We have no access to God.
• 1:10:23
  So we live our lives the best we can and hope
• 1:10:25
  for the best at the end. No. That's dangerous.
• 1:10:29
  Another thing for the backpack. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:10:33
  It comes back to reasoning, intellectualism,
• 1:10:36
  intellectual assent. We just use our brains.
• 1:10:39
  Hey, if God's real and he created all this, well,
• 1:10:42
  we just use what he gave us and he'll be happy
• 1:10:44
  with that. Cameron Knapp, who has supported us
• 1:10:49
  with his beautiful checks. He was like, I don't
• 1:10:52
  want to use these. I don't want no fees. He sends
• 1:10:55
  us a check every single time. He said, you've
• 1:10:58
  mentioned this several times. What's the difference
• 1:10:59
  between an AI bot versus the chat bots? Muse,
• 1:11:07
  I highly recommend this. I highly recommend Muse.
• 1:11:11
  It is not trying to, a chat bot is trying to
• 1:11:13
  be your buddy telling you you're awesome. Talk
• 1:11:15
  back to you. It draws you into a conversation.
• 1:11:17
  It draws you in. Muse does not have a voice.
• 1:11:21
  You can talk to it, just like voice to text,
• 1:11:25
  but it just does helpful things. And I highly
• 1:11:28
  recommend it. I mean, it's good. You want to
• 1:11:31
  go to one level higher, then you can use Grokbot,
• 1:11:35
  and there's going to be a lot more. ChadGBT,
• 1:11:38
  not to be left behind. OpenAI, yesterday came
• 1:11:40
  out with DOTS. We have, they got bots, we got
• 1:11:43
  DOTS. And DOTS, I would stay away from DOTS,
• 1:11:46
  because DOTS is talking to you. The minute you
• 1:11:48
  put a voice onto it, I get wary because it's
• 1:11:51
  so easy to get sucked into that stuff. And if
• 1:11:54
  it starts saying to you, hey Adam, good morning
• 1:11:57
  to you, my car does this. I've turned it off
• 1:11:59
  now too. Good morning. When I put my fingerprint
• 1:12:02
  on it goes, good afternoon, Jimmy. With a picture
• 1:12:06
  of me. I was singing. I was singing a song. I
• 1:12:10
  was singing along to Hello Fred. Oh gosh, what
• 1:12:14
  gospel song was it? Oh, wow. It was like, I'm
• 1:12:20
  looking for a place. I was, it was something
• 1:12:24
  like, I'm looking for a place. Oh, a place in
• 1:12:27
  the, yeah, Michael. Oh, Michael W. C. Mayer,
• 1:12:29
  the king and country. A place in this world.
• 1:12:32
  And the car goes, finding a place in this world.
• 1:12:36
  I'm not kidding. I found several places in this
• 1:12:38
  world. Would you like to go to them? Like, you're
• 1:12:40
  done. I'm turning you off. I know ours interrupts
• 1:12:44
  us all the time and then I'll be talking and
• 1:12:46
  it thinks we called it and it'll say, okay, navigating
• 1:12:50
  to, you know, this is no good. That is the definition
• 1:12:53
  of no good. That's what you, it's not helpful.
• 1:12:57
  It's just your car company trying to get along,
• 1:12:59
  go along, get along. No good. Hey, we want to
• 1:13:02
  thank Stephen Beaver. He went to WGTDTdonations
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  .com. He signed up for a full year subscription
• 1:13:09
  at $500. Man, thanks, Steve. Thank you so much.
• 1:13:13
  Huge. It's awesome. Really, really, really appreciate
• 1:13:15
  it. Awesome. Hey, we got Robert Sikowitz from
• 1:13:19
  Port Republic, New Jersey. Got a big note here.
• 1:13:22
  This is cool. Great show. Keep it up. Adam, what
• 1:13:25
  a blessing it has been listening to your journey
• 1:13:27
  of faith. I was drawn to you the first time I
• 1:13:29
  heard you on Rogan and then grew even more impressed
• 1:13:32
  with the No Agenda show before really being floored
• 1:13:35
  by your proclamation of faith on Rogan. One thing
• 1:13:38
  I find really inspiring is listening to you talk
• 1:13:40
  about your mission for the kingdom. It's not
• 1:13:43
  just talk. The transformation is evident in little
• 1:13:45
  things like giving up weed, your drive for enthusiasm,
• 1:13:49
  as you steer people to Christ. I am curious how
• 1:13:52
  your definition of success has changed over your
• 1:13:55
  life, specifically how it changed within you.
• 1:13:58
  You don't have to read this on the show, too
• 1:13:59
  late. Sorry. Unless you and Jimmy find it interesting,
• 1:14:04
  which we do, by the way. We do. Thank you, Tyler.
• 1:14:08
  Is it Tyler or Robert? It says Robert up on the
• 1:14:13
  name and then Tyler in the note. I think it's
• 1:14:15
  Tyler, Robert. My definition of success. How
• 1:14:21
  has it changed within you? Success is such a
• 1:14:30
  weird thing to talk about. For me, it's just
• 1:14:35
  bringing people to the kingdom. At this point,
• 1:14:38
  the commission is for me. I want to finish strong.
• 1:14:42
  What do I have left? We've got people dropping
• 1:14:44
  down left and right. What difference does it
• 1:14:47
  make? For me, success is... When I get into his
• 1:14:51
  kingdom and he says, well done, my faithful servant,
• 1:14:55
  probably then I'll say, all right, the mission
• 1:14:57
  was, I guess, a success. Love that. And I don't
• 1:15:00
  mind if I'm up in the nosebleed seat. Tina and
• 1:15:02
  I were laughing about that. She says, you know,
• 1:15:03
  we're going to have like paper crowns, you know.
• 1:15:07
  Wow, I don't agree. Not at all. We're joking
• 1:15:11
  around. Thank you, Tyler. Steven Helm comes in
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  from Leewood, Kansas, 88, 88. Pickles! It starts
• 1:15:19
  right off. After hearing about Bo's amazing pickles,
• 1:15:22
  that's LouisianaDillPickles at gmail .com, I
• 1:15:26
  reached out to the man and I now believe the
• 1:15:29
  pickle making legend himself to see how I could
• 1:15:32
  secure a jar or preferably a case of these incredible
• 1:15:35
  pickles. Sadly, I learned Bo cannot sell over
• 1:15:37
  the state line. However, in a wonderful act of
• 1:15:40
  pickle generosity, Bo graciously sent me some
• 1:15:43
  to both try and more importantly, share with
• 1:15:46
  others along with God's word, which is on all
• 1:15:48
  of his jars and the lids. Wow, what a ministry
• 1:15:51
  and powerful way to multiply the spreading of
• 1:15:53
  the gospel. Well, the pickles did not disappoint.
• 1:15:57
  Since I cannot pay Bo, the only right thing to
• 1:16:00
  do was send a WGTDT donation. That's so nice.
• 1:16:04
  So thank you, Beau, for the delicious pickles,
• 1:16:06
  and thank you, Pastor Jimmy and Adam, for such
• 1:16:08
  a meaningful and engaging podcast. It's a joy
• 1:16:10
  to hear your weekly insights knowing how many
• 1:16:13
  seeds you are planting and watering, which bear
• 1:16:15
  fruit, both seen and unseen. We get to do this,
• 1:16:19
  Ceri. Thank you, Ceri. That is beautiful. And
• 1:16:22
  by the way, I forgot to, Tyler, he gave $100.
• 1:16:25
  I think I skipped right over the amount there.
• 1:16:28
  And I guess Ceri is Stephen's... Better half.
• 1:16:33
  It must be. I think so. Hey, I'm glad she discovered
• 1:16:36
  those pickles though. It's a game changer. It's
• 1:16:38
  a life changing. It's like a good ribeye, just
• 1:16:42
  change your life. There is something life changing
• 1:16:44
  about those pickles for sure. All right. And
• 1:16:46
  then we have a letter, a book from David Holthaus.
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  No location, 8165. Thank you very much. Good
• 1:16:57
  afternoon. WGTDT. Hope it's not too late to send
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  in a note. Probably don't need to read all of
• 1:17:02
  this on the podcast. Feel free to edit accordingly.
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  times five. Wow. Clever. I love that. That's
• 1:17:15
  clever. Clever, David. John 16 donation. Okay.
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  That's cool. It's cool. He says, I really appreciate
• 1:17:20
  both your time in the biblical view of the world.
• 1:17:22
  I listened to No Agenda for a while after Adam
• 1:17:23
  was on Rogan. Look at that, Adam. Yeah. Look
• 1:17:26
  how that just spun things off. I think back in
• 1:17:28
  2021, but fell away in that last year or so as
• 1:17:32
  I struggle with my feelings around news and just
• 1:17:34
  overall politics. I felt called to focus more
• 1:17:37
  on things that spoke to me deeper. Funny enough,
• 1:17:39
  around that time, I also started listening to
• 1:17:41
  a lot more sermons, but I missed Adam and your
• 1:17:43
  grounded takes on the world, so I was excited
• 1:17:45
  to hear you talk about this podcast, even though
• 1:17:47
  I don't always agree with your opinion or analysis.
• 1:17:50
  You shouldn't. That goes for all of us. I grew
• 1:17:54
  up in church, but fell away through my 20s, although
• 1:17:56
  I always had a strong feeling I needed to come
• 1:17:59
  back. Once I turned 30 this past year, I started
• 1:18:01
  going back to church. and feeling more like I'm
• 1:18:04
  missing something. Good for you. I watch the
• 1:18:06
  church of 1122 sometimes. No preacher has compelled
• 1:18:10
  me like Joby Martin's sermons. Yeah, he can bench
• 1:18:13
  press you 30 times too. But it's hard to connect
• 1:18:16
  a church that is remote. I also attend Life Church
• 1:18:19
  here in Kansas City. But again, the sermons are
• 1:18:22
  from a video, which always feels a little off
• 1:18:24
  to me. Hopefully I can find a church locally
• 1:18:26
  with an in -person pastor that also speaks to
• 1:18:29
  me. He just needs some prayers. For he and his
• 1:18:31
  fiancé, I'm going to read ahead a little bit.
• 1:18:34
  I don't want to go too deep on that. So yeah,
• 1:18:38
  he and his fiancé. They need prayers for their
• 1:18:41
  walk. Yeah, their walk with Jesus. It says, Jimmy,
• 1:18:44
  but also read your daily grind devotionals. They
• 1:18:46
  always hit the right note for me. Didn't want
• 1:18:48
  this to feel so Adam heavy. I was feeling left
• 1:18:52
  out. Not really, not. Sort of a rambling message,
• 1:18:56
  but I do appreciate you both on this podcast.
• 1:18:58
  The person who wrote in a couple of weeks ago
• 1:19:00
  talking about how she felt like she knew you
• 1:19:02
  all really resonated with me. I feel the same
• 1:19:05
  way. Like I have a one -sided friendship with
• 1:19:06
  you both. Always reminds me of the attached meme.
• 1:19:09
  Thank you both. I appreciate that. Our heart
• 1:19:13
  is to be transparent and to be genuine. You're
• 1:19:15
  going to get the real us. Even on a bad day,
• 1:19:18
  you're going to get the real us. And I hope that
• 1:19:19
  you can find a group, even if it's a small group,
• 1:19:21
  it doesn't have to be a church, just a bunch
• 1:19:23
  of people or guys. You can just do a Bible study
• 1:19:27
  with once a week or some regular basis. That's
• 1:19:31
  church too. We just happen to be fortunate enough
• 1:19:34
  to have this beautiful building that used to
• 1:19:36
  house classic cars. Yeah, no kidding. They ran
• 1:19:41
  horses and hot rods through this place. Horses
• 1:19:43
  and hot rods. Yeah, that's cool. So he has a
• 1:19:45
  note for you that's more techy, so I'll let you...
• 1:19:48
  Yeah, he wants to know about my local LLM setups.
• 1:19:53
  I'm going to have to start writing about this.
• 1:19:54
  People are asking me, so I won't take up the
• 1:19:57
  time on the podcast to do that, but I'm going
• 1:19:59
  to do a primer just like I did. hyperlocalpodcast
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  .com. People always ask me, what gear do you
• 1:20:06
  use? How do I get started? Hyperlocalpodcast
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  .com. That's Adam's official light up. Very cool.
• 1:20:12
  Open source, man. It makes the world go round.
• 1:20:15
  There he is, Michael Anastasio. He is the OG
• 1:20:19
  samunier of Curry and the Keeper and he is now
• 1:20:22
  supporting us here. He's in Raritan, New Jersey.
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  He comes in with 77 .77 and it's the beautiful
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  numbers we love on this show and he says, keep
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  on keeping on brothers. And we will. Thank you
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  so much. Beautiful. All right. John's name guest
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  from email. John's Burt. We just call her John's
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  Burt. John's Burt. No note there. $50. Thank
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  you, brother. Appreciate it. Brian Albright from
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  Port Angeles, Washington. $50. Thank you, Brian.
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  Paul Erskine. We know Paul. We've seen him several
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  times. Lake Forest Park, Washington. $50. Ex
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  -Vermonters. I never received a note, but we
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  got $50. And just looking from the emails, how
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  we think you're... probably from Vermont, ex
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  -Vermonters. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
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  John Foley. We've seen John around as well. Nashville,
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  Tennessee. Yay. I love Nashville. 33, 33. the
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  and the return address on the envelope said former
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  Texan. Oh, there you go. Sorry for your loss.
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  Oh, was that? No, actually that was Gregory Stoddard.
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  I'm sorry. There you go. That was Gregory Stoddard
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  with 3333. We love the 3333s. Come on back, Greg.
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  We love Nashville too. I do. And I'll get Mike
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  Regenold, I think it is, from Collierville. Collierville,
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  Tennessee? Yeah, that's up around Nashville.
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  $25. Thank you for your faithfulness and continued
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  wisdom and encouragement. And thank you for your
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  encouragement. We appreciate it. Thanks, Mike,
• 1:21:49
  from Tennessee. Nicholas Stark with $5. Thank
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  I'm Michael Mason. Learned this podcast from
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  So there you go, 318, Habakkuk donation. Look
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  there's so much to do here. But also, we have
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  with a daily grind. I'm going to actually pick
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  one from two days ago. I was wrestling with this.
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  This one means a lot to me personally, and it's
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  titled, This is the Daily Grind. And the scripture
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  is Colossians 4 verse 2, continue steadfastly
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  in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving.
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  And the title of today's Daily Grind is, What
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  if you just prayed? As Paul wraps up his letter
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  to the Colossians, he ends with practical counsel
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  to continue in prayer, being expectant with thanksgiving.
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  Thanksgiving leavens prayer so it doesn't become
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  a wish list. My phrase for the year is, let's
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  pray more. Today's verse captures that idea.
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  I've prayed with many people this year outside
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  of the four walls of the church, and I quickly
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  realized that people welcome prayer with open
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  arms. So today, ask someone if you can pray for
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  them as the Spirit leads. Be brief, discreet,
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  and respectful as you pray. I like to ask, would
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  it be okay if I prayed for you? By the way, in
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  43 years of being in ministry, I've never had
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  a single person turn me down on that question.
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  Prayer, here it is. Father, open my eyes to see
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  those who could use a prayer of encouragement
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  as I go about my day. In Jesus' name, amen.