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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - The Week of What the Heck? · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  What a wild week of people trying to
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  outdo each other's mistakes.
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  We're going to talk about all that next.
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  what is going on everybody welcome to
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  sunday sunday sunday night crossfit talk
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  there we're back another week another
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  sunday we're here the timing of that
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  sunday one was good today sometimes you
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  have to like you're a little slow
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  sometimes but you're on it was perfect
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  today yeah i actually hit it before i
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  finished talking oh that's that's the
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  trick right there
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  We got CrossFit.
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  We've got Terry.
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  We've got Meredith.
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  We've got Trent.
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  All of the spin came in to say
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  there's lots of news breaking.
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  Trust me,
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  trying to keep up with the day is
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  crazy.
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  CrossFit is officially withdrawing from
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  this show.
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  Like you're having withdrawals?
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  What?
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  Oh, no.
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  He's like the WFP.
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  Oh.
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  Kipping it real came here to say fire
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  Mike Tomlin because my wife said,
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  who is Mike Tomlin?
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  If he wins another game,
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  he'll be the tenth winningest coach in NFL
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  history.
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  But that's debatable after the way they
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  performed tonight.
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  But speaking of football,
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  my Chicago Bears are currently sitting as
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  the number one seed in the NFC.
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  Are you kidding me?
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  I did not have that on my bingo
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  card this year.
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  Right.
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  Me neither, but they're doing so good.
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  And now they're starting to beat some good
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  teams.
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  Some good teams.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So, yeah.
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  Everybody's talking about the DBE thing.
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  We are definitely going to get into that.
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  That's wild.
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  Is it?
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  Yes.
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  Is it?
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  We'll get into that when we get there.
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  So, yeah,
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  we've got a lot of people in the
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  chat.
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  Being the second winningest comes with
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  twenty million and a twenty four year old
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  cheerlead.
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  Very, very.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  That is.
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  Cross that that may be the wildest story
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  in the last two years.
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  Bill Belichick retiring from or leaving
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  the NFL,
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  hooking up with a twenty four year old
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  cheerleader.
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  It's weird.
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  It is just weird.
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  It is weird.
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  North Carolina?
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  Yeah.
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  And like she's very involved too.
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  Like in the pregame.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Legal but weird.
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  Yeah.
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  Legal but weird.
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  Yeah.
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  So weird.
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  It's weirder and grosser.
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  The no drama coach, more drama than ever.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm glad we don't have that.
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  My coach just takes off his shirt to
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  give the whole city of Chicago free hot
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  dogs.
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  And if you're not following,
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  the wiener circle in Chicago said if Ben
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  Johnson ever took off his shirt in the
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  post-game celebration,
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  they would give free hot dogs to the
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  city of Chicago.
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  He did it this week in the post
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  game celebration.
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  So Tuesday in Chicago,
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  go to the wiener circle, free hot dogs.
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  Wow.
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  Um,
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  he Williams sucked up my fantasy this
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  week, this week, I will say.
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  Yeah,
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  he's not a great fantasy quarterback.
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  No.
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  I had Burrows at the beginning of the
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  year,
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  but then once he got his injury and
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  he was going to be out for months,
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  I dropped him.
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  There was no good QBs available.
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  I think I still have Tua.
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  Tua was terrible today.
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  Yeah, I gave up on fantasy.
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  Jenny says the Wiener Circle sounds like a
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  fun place.
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  Yeah, that's interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  train all of my my fantasy team is
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  bipolar yeah am i in last uh i
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  don't think so you actually started off
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  with a couple wins not not even knowing
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  that you drafted anybody or how to switch
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  players you won i'm annoyed because i like
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  football a lot and i watch it all
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  the time so i'm annoyed that like my
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  team just sucks and i just don't really
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  know how to play it
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  Did you all,
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  I know that in Canada you didn't celebrate
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  Thanksgiving this week, but Jamie,
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  did you have a good Thanksgiving?
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  We had a good Thanksgiving.
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  Yes.
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  Yep.
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  Got with Aaron's side of the family on
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  Thanksgiving and then hung out with my
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  sister, um, on Friday night.
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  So yeah, made the rounds.
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  That's great.
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  Uh, Aaron Frazier with a good one.
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  Isn't that a Colton place?
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  The wiener circle.
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  Sounds about right.
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  Since he sells his wiener dogs.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Andrew says he's last.
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  First to be eliminated from playoff
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  contention like three weeks ago.
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  First in the bottom.
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  So I was home alone for Thanksgiving
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  because of the sinus infection and
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  everything.
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  And my nephew showed up with Thanksgiving
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  food.
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  And it was awesome.
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  I didn't think I would miss it,
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  but it was really nice to have it.
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  And his turkey was moist.
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  Like I've never had him.
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  Moist piece of turkey until that day.
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  Moist.
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  And it was good.
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  It was good.
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  Usually it's dry as a bone.
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  Right.
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  So I really appreciate it.
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  And he had homemade cranberry sauce that
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  I've never had before.
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  And it was, I think I'm an addict.
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  Like if I would go out on the
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  street and find that stuff.
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  It was so good.
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  I tried asking my mom for like the
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  recipe of like why it's so juicy and
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  stuff.
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  And then she was writing this whole thing,
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  but it's all in French.
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  And I was like,
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  I think we just got to make like
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  a TikTok video or some sort of video
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  that just easier.
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  Cause a lot of people, like it just,
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  they eyeball it.
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  Right.
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  Right.
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  And there were so many things, right.
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  And I was like, Oh, I can't,
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  I can't share this.
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  Larry Young, four ninety nine.
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  Thank you so much, Larry.
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  Am I the only one ready for some
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  open talk?
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  Yes.
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  Yes, I am not ready for the open.
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  It's a little early for that.
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  We got to wait till after Christmas.
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  Nicole's asking that we not use the word
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  moist, but that's what it was.
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  How am I?
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  What do you see?
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  I don't see a moist turkey.
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  Right, right.
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  It's not a thing.
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  Juicy turkey.
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  Yeah.
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  We don't, we don't say, yeah,
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  I don't know where that came from.
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  It's fine.
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  In cooking terms.
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  You always want moist baking.
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  Maybe.
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  Kenneth says moist was the proper term.
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  All the women are like no moist.
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  Moist cake.
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  Correct.
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  Baking.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  okay whatever um kenneth is saying french
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  or quebecois i don't can't even pronounce
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  it i'm with carolyn say juicy yeah juicy
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  tender we've got a tender that's okay too
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  uh crossfit says soggy meat no can't do
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  soggy meat
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  All right.
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  Well,
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  I'm glad you guys had a great
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  Thanksgiving.
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  We sent my daughter off today to Montana
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  on the plane.
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  Lots of tears at the airport.
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  But it was nice having her home for
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  nine days.
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  So that was cool.
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  And we had a great couple days before
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  she left.
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  But it's always sad to say goodbye.
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  But at least we had her here.
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  So blessed to have that.
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  But now back to the work week tomorrow.
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  So with that...
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  We'll start with the IF-III debacle.
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  It happened last weekend.
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  I didn't get to get your guys' impression
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  as to your thoughts on it at all.
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  For people who don't know,
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  the IF-III Masters Championships were held
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  in Australia last weekend.
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  It was a complete cluster of an event.
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  there were waterfall starts where they
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  encouraged you not to catch the person in
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  front of you, which is just insanity.
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  They had men and women going at the
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  same time in the same lane,
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  hoping they wouldn't run into each other.
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  They had no medical staff.
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  They had two clocks running and judges
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  looked at the wrong clocks for some of
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  the people.
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  So the times were way off on the
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  endurance event.
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  They tried to redo the event and halfway
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  through said the complaints were so bad
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  that they just were going to stop it.
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  But the people who redid it,
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  that could count for them if they wanted
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  to,
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  or they could use their original score.
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  But if you didn't get a chance,
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  you just got the original score or you
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  could choose to not have it count at
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  all.
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  And that's just,
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  that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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  Um, so I've given my thoughts this week.
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  I think the most horrific piece of this
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  is that there was no medical staff.
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  They're very lucky.
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  Something didn't happen.
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  Like, like Miriam that at, uh, that's my,
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  like just anything, anything can go wrong.
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  That's crazy to not have any medical
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  staff.
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  Yeah.
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  I can't imagine being the people in
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  charge.
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  And then one thing just goes wrong after
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  the other.
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  And you're like, okay,
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  we're going to try and do this.
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  And then you just don't think about this
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  and that happens.
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  And everything that could go wrong, just,
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  just goes wrong.
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  And I just,
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  I think I would just start crying.
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  Just not even know what to do.
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  Be like, oh my gosh,
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  I'm in charge of all of this right
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  now.
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  Like everything's going bad.
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  Oh, that must.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, for a professional person,
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  event right that where they're trying to
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  make it to the olympics i don't know
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  for the masters division but like for the
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  other for the regular division for the
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  if-three can't have can't have this kind
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  of stuff happen who runs it is it
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  the same people that run the individual
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  So here's what happened.
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  So there is the IF-III.
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  It's a governing body.
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  They want to be an Olympic sport.
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  So that was the whole premise of this.
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  They run it like the Olympics.
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  The board puts out each event for bid.
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  and a country and their federation can
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  choose to then run the event.
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  Australia won the bid for this event,
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  and so then they were given the task
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  of running the event.
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  However,
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  I don't think that that means that you
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  lose oversight as how the event is run.
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  you're still the brand name of what's
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  going on and you would want to make
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  sure that none of that is tainted by
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  what happens at this event.
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  They have been running events since twenty
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  sixteen and pretty good events.
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  Shanna Bunce,
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  who is a frequent peer person to chat,
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  went to their Masters Games two years ago,
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  said it was super well run,
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  was one of the best events she's ever
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  been to.
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  But then something like this pops off
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  and it totally damages their credibility
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  and their name across all of their events
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  yeah i i didn't know even know that
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  this event was happening i i've watched
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  the individual one in years past um but
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  i guess i didn't even know that the
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  masters event was happening
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  Like, like,
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  like I thought the masters normally
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  happened the same weekend as the,
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  but now I know that doesn't.
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  Yeah.
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  But yeah, it miscommunication.
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  I think, you know,
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  someone was assuming someone else is going
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  to do something and then a bunch of
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  assumptions and all of a sudden you're
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  there and nothing has been organized.
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  Yeah.
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  I, I'm glad I wasn't there.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, athletes just left.
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  After it started returning to what it did,
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  they just left.
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  That's tough because you spend a lot of
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  money to go to Australia and do an
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  event like this to be like, yeah, no,
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  I'm done.
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  On top of that, in Europe,
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  some countries subsidize their athletes
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  who participate in this.
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  That's what I was going to say.
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  A lot of them would be coming from
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  Europe.
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  Right.
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  So there's also government money being put
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  toward these athletes getting there and
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  doing this event.
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  And all of that is hosed by a
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  poor run event.
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  I mean,
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  if you've ever competed ever and you have
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  a water style event and you tell the
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  athlete,
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  try not to catch the person in front
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  of you,
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  that just is so counterintuitive to
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  anything competitive ever.
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  so i just wanted to get your thoughts
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  we don't need to spend a lot of
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  time on it a lot of people have
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  um there's a lot more big news coming
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  that we need to dive into but i
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  just wanted to throw that out there was
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  it was it live on youtube at all
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  like
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  It did not get streamed.
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  That also fell through.
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  There was a German contingent there
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  filming for them in Germany,
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  and they asked if they could share the
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  stream, and the German contingent said no.
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  Oh, wow.
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  Yeah.
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  So I guess, like,
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  I think Spin and Hiller got some of
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  the German footage that showed some of the
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  stuff,
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  and you can go to their sites and
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  see some of that stuff.
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  But it, yeah.
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  Again, it was the tip of the iceberg.
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  There were so many things that were wrong.
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  Made NorCal look like the gold standard.
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  I mean, yeah.
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  I like NorCal.
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  Yeah, I don't know.
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  It's just mind-boggling.
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  I don't know how you...
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  I don't know how you have any knowledge
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  about the sport at all and can't think
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  through some of these things.
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  Well, there should be like a...
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  Best practice for any event that's going
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  on,
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  some sort of best practice list that
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  should be to all the directors of those
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  events.
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  And in the CrossFit space,
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  it should be shared between semifinals,
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  like what you should have done by this
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  date or how far ahead.
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  And then they obviously need to implement
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  something like that.
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  So this never happens again.
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  But you should have a list of things
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  that need to be at every comp.
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  We have made statements that CrossFit did
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  not have a lot of oversight at the,
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  at the age group games,
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  but they did have some oversight.
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  They were there.
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  They were present.
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  They did look at the workouts.
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  They may not have changed them,
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  but in their opinion,
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  there was nothing there that like this
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  debacle, right?
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  Yeah.
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  It was from oversight and they were, we,
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  we dogged them,
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  but at least they didn't let this happen.
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  yeah they were i mean i think crossfit
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  would always step in if there's if you're
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  trying to run two different groups at the
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  same time on one floor like that's just
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  it's just not unsafe right well if you
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  watch the hillar video they tried to do
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  it saying that they wouldn't run into each
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  other but there was a point where they
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  had to cross over right right that and
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  So anyway, we don't need to cut,
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  talk about that forever.
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  Uh,
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  one more thing before we get into like
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  the big news of the day.
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  And that is, uh,
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  I just found this from a listener who
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  sent this to me.
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  Um,
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  if you guys remember at the H group
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  CrossFit games, I said,
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  I heard two rumors and it's what kind
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  of started the smear campaign accusation.
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  And that was that there were going to
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  be six figure contracts next year to try
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  to attract people back to the WFP and
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  that they were going to run a full
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  master's competition next season.
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  So this comes out for monster games and
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  like four pages in,
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  there's a Q and a here,
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  and I'll try to blow this up because
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  it's on a graphic.
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  Is Monster Games still a qualifier for
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  Legends Championships?
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  Answer is yes.
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  We are also now an in-person qualifier for
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  Desert City Classic and World Fitness
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  Finals Masters Individual Division.
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  So it appears to me that there have
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  been negotiations about the WFP doing a
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  full masters season next year because,
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  and now you see that there are,
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  and it,
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  and their master season may just be a
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  qualifier to the finals.
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  Yeah.
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  We don't know,
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  but apparently the monster games are a
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  qualifier to those world fitness finals
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  next season.
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  And so I had heard this rumor when
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  I was at the age group games,
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  I was told after I announced that I
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  heard the rumor that I was just doing
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  a smear campaign,
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  but it appears now that there is something
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  in the works for a master's type season
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  next year.
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  My only, my,
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  my only other thought on this is you've
• 19:02
  done so well in the individual side.
• 19:05
  It's really time to expand and,
• 19:08
  I mean, honestly, as far as pivots go,
• 19:11
  and maybe this isn't a pivot,
• 19:13
  this was probably always planned,
• 19:14
  but I do think this is probably a
• 19:16
  smart route to take.
• 19:20
  Well,
• 19:20
  it would bring more people to their
• 19:22
  events.
• 19:22
  Exactly.
• 19:23
  And the Masters are looking for different
• 19:27
  comps in person.
• 19:32
  Yeah.
• 19:32
  And,
• 19:33
  and Jenny talked about what we talked
• 19:34
  about before we went on the air.
• 19:36
  Uh,
• 19:36
  it makes sense because monster was
• 19:37
  previously Jason Ainsley's event and he's
• 19:39
  also the WFP director.
• 19:41
  Right.
• 19:41
  Yeah.
• 19:41
  We actually,
• 19:42
  the three of us talked about that before
• 19:43
  we went on the air that it does
• 19:45
  make sense that monster games would be a
• 19:47
  qualifier for that.
• 19:49
  Um,
• 19:51
  So there it is.
• 19:53
  So when they said I was just making
• 19:56
  stuff up for a smear campaign,
• 19:58
  there's one piece of evidence to show that
• 20:00
  my rumors are starting to come true.
• 20:04
  Starting to come true.
• 20:06
  We'll see about the six figures when
• 20:08
  everybody withdraws and turns down
• 20:09
  contracts.
• 20:12
  So there's that.
• 20:14
  I don't have the pencil, pen,
• 20:15
  and because I was at the airport today,
• 20:19
  pencil, pen, and Sharpie in the loaded in.
• 20:21
  So we're just going to do it off
• 20:23
  the cuff.
• 20:24
  First pencil, pen,
• 20:25
  or Sharpie for the night is the theory
• 20:31
  behind a season long test is something
• 20:34
  that should be explored as a concept for
• 20:36
  future seasons.
• 20:40
  And where I came up with this is
• 20:42
  Carolyn has argued that the open should
• 20:45
  carry over to the quarterfinals.
• 20:48
  And then it becomes like a more of
• 20:49
  a season long test.
• 20:51
  Now we have only if videos are public
• 20:55
  and only if videos are public,
• 20:57
  like our world,
• 20:57
  we can make it whatever we want.
• 20:58
  Yeah, sure.
• 20:59
  Okay.
• 21:00
  Now we've never stretched it on to like
• 21:03
  the semis.
• 21:03
  Right.
• 21:05
  But,
• 21:06
  the one thing that I do like about
• 21:09
  the concept of WFP is that you have
• 21:13
  more tests to throw together to make a
• 21:16
  more complete test.
• 21:17
  Now, whether they did that or not,
• 21:18
  we're going to talk about that in a
• 21:19
  second.
• 21:20
  So pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
• 21:22
  the theory behind a season long test is
• 21:25
  something that should be considered for
• 21:27
  future seasons.
• 21:30
  I believe so.
• 21:31
  So I, I, I strongly believe.
• 21:34
  Sharpie.
• 21:35
  I think all tests are relevant.
• 21:38
  I'd say Penn, Penn for sure in CrossFit,
• 21:42
  like CrossFit games.
• 21:44
  I would venture more towards the pencil
• 21:46
  side.
• 21:47
  I like,
• 21:47
  I love the idea of open quarterfinals to
• 21:51
  get you there,
• 21:51
  but I do think the games in and
• 21:54
  of itself are,
• 21:56
  is should be its own test for the
• 21:58
  CrossFit games.
• 21:59
  I don't, I, for the,
• 22:01
  for the CrossFit season,
• 22:02
  I wouldn't say it should be every score
• 22:04
  wrapped together,
• 22:05
  but I do think to get there,
• 22:07
  they should wrap them together.
• 22:09
  But I do, I totally agree.
• 22:11
  I think it should be explored out of
• 22:12
  something like if WFP is trying to become
• 22:15
  a, these tour stops, like I prefer,
• 22:18
  I prefer that system points lending
• 22:21
  through the season.
• 22:23
  So my idea is that it's Penn because
• 22:26
  I think that you could carry it all
• 22:29
  the way to semifinals,
• 22:30
  but I am in agreement with you that
• 22:33
  the games is separate.
• 22:34
  It's the qualifier.
• 22:36
  Is everything before rolled over?
• 22:39
  And maybe semifinals is worth more points
• 22:42
  like the WFP did with...
• 22:44
  with their final tour stop.
• 22:46
  Yeah.
• 22:46
  But like open quarters,
• 22:48
  semis are double onto the, onto the game.
• 22:51
  The games is its own because it is
• 22:54
  a ten,
• 22:54
  twelve event thing that can be a
• 22:57
  standalone test.
• 22:59
  The rest of them you're trying to squeeze
• 23:00
  into a weekend or a shorter timeframe.
• 23:03
  Right.
• 23:04
  I think anything that's online is,
• 23:09
  can get on the same leaderboard the moment
• 23:12
  it's in person even if it's the same
• 23:13
  workouts it's very difficult to replicate
• 23:16
  the weather the floor distances like all
• 23:19
  of that but if you we're all doing
• 23:21
  the same open workouts quarterfinals open
• 23:24
  or online semifinals those are all
• 23:28
  different styles if you had all different
• 23:30
  styles of tests they're all relevant
• 23:35
  Like, yeah,
• 23:35
  the open is light and less skillful,
• 23:39
  but not less important.
• 23:41
  You still should be able to do a
• 23:42
  bunch of burpees and move a light dumbbell
• 23:45
  snatch and toaster bars.
• 23:47
  And if you're,
• 23:48
  if you're gas doing burpees,
• 23:49
  but you can do legless rope climbs and
• 23:52
  lift heavy,
• 23:53
  you don't have good conditioning.
• 23:55
  Like those are relevant tests.
• 23:57
  As soon as we get to the quarters
• 23:58
  and on an online site means everything
• 24:00
  gets very heavy and high skill and people
• 24:03
  have big holes and
• 24:05
  And I think that those tests are valuable.
• 24:08
  So anything that's online, public videos,
• 24:12
  more scrutiny of the videos,
• 24:14
  and they could all play into one large
• 24:16
  leaderboard so that the right people get
• 24:18
  to the games through an online path,
• 24:21
  if you want to go through an online
• 24:22
  path.
• 24:24
  So Larry Young says pencil because the new
• 24:27
  open is such an outlier.
• 24:28
  Yes.
• 24:28
  For the old open.
• 24:29
  I think because it's more not liar,
• 24:31
  it's even more important to combine it
• 24:32
  with the quarterfinal scores because it's
• 24:35
  only three tests because you don't get a
• 24:37
  chance to do heavy or you don't get
• 24:39
  to do high skill gymnastics.
• 24:41
  It's important to keep those cardio pieces
• 24:44
  as part of the quarterfinal test that does
• 24:47
  have heavy,
• 24:48
  that does have high skill gymnastics.
• 24:50
  Right.
• 24:51
  And the quarterfinals is kind of a
• 24:52
  continuation of the open from past where
• 24:56
  weeks maybe four and five were more heavy
• 25:00
  and had higher skills.
• 25:01
  You're just getting a little bit more
• 25:03
  tests of that.
• 25:04
  Let's say you have five tests in the
• 25:05
  quarters that are more skillful and heavy
• 25:08
  and three in the open that are less.
• 25:11
  Well,
• 25:11
  now you have eight tests that we all
• 25:13
  took.
• 25:14
  Why do only three or four,
• 25:15
  like five of them matter?
• 25:18
  Makes no sense to me.
• 25:21
  Right.
• 25:22
  I just think it spreads it out over
• 25:23
  eight events now.
• 25:25
  You just do it.
• 25:26
  Just the people that have done those eight
• 25:28
  tests are on the leaderboard together.
• 25:30
  Open videos have at it.
• 25:34
  Yeah.
• 25:36
  So the reason we bring that up is
• 25:37
  because that is what the WFP is trying
• 25:40
  to do, right?
• 25:42
  So we're going to talk about them.
• 25:43
  The big breaking news of the day.
• 25:45
  It's funny because The Spin just put it
• 25:47
  out that,
• 25:48
  and it came out in a press release,
• 25:50
  that Danielle Brandon has been replaced by
• 25:53
  Maribel Gallardo.
• 25:55
  Gallardo?
• 25:55
  Gallardo.
• 25:56
  Gallardo.
• 25:58
  um from spain uh holly saw her invite
• 26:02
  acceptance on ig this afternoon so we've
• 26:05
  been trying to follow it but we the
• 26:07
  whole time we saw it we were like
• 26:10
  riley bb is supposed to be the next
• 26:12
  person up and um and then it turned
• 26:16
  out that riley has according to the spins
• 26:18
  article uh she has declined her invite and
• 26:21
  then maribel is now the choice to go
• 26:24
  And Spin put out a poll question earlier
• 26:27
  this week,
• 26:28
  should a decline of invite be the same
• 26:32
  as a withdrawal?
• 26:34
  And my response to him off to the
• 26:36
  side was, I think a decline is worse.
• 26:41
  Yeah, kind of.
• 26:44
  because the reason I say that is you're
• 26:46
  talking about young hungry athletes who
• 26:49
  would be starving for attention and
• 26:51
  exposure and they're deciding it's not
• 26:54
  worth it.
• 26:56
  Yeah.
• 26:57
  It's a little,
• 26:58
  the time of year and to be told
• 27:01
  two weeks before you need to travel out
• 27:03
  there right around Christmas.
• 27:05
  I can see why some people might have
• 27:07
  to decline at this point.
• 27:08
  Um,
• 27:10
  But yeah,
• 27:11
  you would think these people are hungry
• 27:13
  for it.
• 27:13
  I mean,
• 27:14
  maybe they know it's mathematically
• 27:15
  impossible,
• 27:16
  even if they went and won this,
• 27:17
  to get into the twentieth spot.
• 27:19
  So why go?
• 27:20
  Why spend the money?
• 27:22
  And I'm guessing that's the case for these
• 27:23
  people who are sitting thirty-eighth
• 27:26
  point-wise.
• 27:27
  Even if they won,
• 27:28
  I don't think they can get twentieth
• 27:29
  place.
• 27:31
  The people getting backfilled,
• 27:32
  like they don't have their transportation
• 27:35
  stuff paid for.
• 27:35
  Only the twenty athletes, right?
• 27:37
  So they're on their pockets there.
• 27:38
  Right.
• 27:39
  Are they guaranteed money, though,
• 27:41
  even for last place,
• 27:42
  like at thirtieth place?
• 27:43
  I believe so.
• 27:45
  So at a minimum, at a minimum,
• 27:47
  you can maybe get even.
• 27:49
  Maybe.
• 27:50
  Probably not.
• 27:50
  To Copenhagen for an American?
• 27:51
  I mean,
• 27:52
  I understand why these Europeans are
• 27:53
  taking it, but like...
• 27:55
  it's,
• 27:55
  it's going to be tough to a tough
• 27:57
  sell here two weeks before to push some
• 27:59
  Americans over there that don't have
• 28:01
  expenses covered.
• 28:02
  Yeah.
• 28:03
  Cause if it's just like a thousand,
• 28:05
  even two thousand won't really cover it.
• 28:07
  So it's like at that point,
• 28:10
  you're probably best just to take time,
• 28:13
  get ready for Christmas or whatever you
• 28:15
  want to do for the next year.
• 28:17
  It says too big of a risk.
• 28:19
  It's like a fighter filling in last
• 28:20
  minute.
• 28:21
  Um,
• 28:22
  just don't think there's a i don't think
• 28:24
  there's a net benefit like i don't think
• 28:26
  they can like i don't think they can
• 28:28
  points wise win a spot so why why
• 28:31
  go because guaranteed money to win or like
• 28:37
  to go if people keep withdrawing they're
• 28:39
  getting closer and closer to twenty
• 28:41
  without even going yeah i don't know i
• 28:45
  mean maribel's jumped eight spots just in
• 28:47
  withdrawals just saying
• 28:52
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 28:56
  And this is what I would say.
• 28:58
  If you see these workouts and this is
• 29:00
  your home run, you've got a shot.
• 29:04
  No matter where you're at.
• 29:05
  Well, that's true.
• 29:08
  But if you're Jamie and you see these
• 29:11
  workouts, you're like, no,
• 29:13
  not even worth my time.
• 29:15
  No.
• 29:15
  And I think that's what you're seeing with
• 29:17
  withdrawals right now.
• 29:19
  Danielle Brandon has been fighting a back
• 29:20
  injury for as long as I've known her.
• 29:25
  And you see these workouts?
• 29:27
  She's probably like,
• 29:29
  not worth me ruining a season over.
• 29:32
  I just came off Rogue that was heavy,
• 29:35
  heavy.
• 29:36
  And now I see these workouts and I'm
• 29:38
  like, not worth it.
• 29:42
  And she's up there in points, isn't she?
• 29:44
  She is.
• 29:45
  She's done well at both of them.
• 29:46
  I think she's like...
• 29:47
  third or fifth overall.
• 29:49
  She's way up there.
• 29:50
  I think even if she went and took
• 29:51
  last on those three, four events,
• 29:54
  I still think she could finish top twenty.
• 29:57
  So it is interesting to me because she's
• 30:00
  basically saying these events are not
• 30:03
  worth...
• 30:05
  are not worth me a contract for next
• 30:06
  year.
• 30:07
  Like I already know I don't want to
• 30:08
  participate in this season.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:09
  I think what you're seeing right now is
• 30:12
  people's decisions.
• 30:13
  I think for next year, right.
• 30:15
  Whether they're continuing and keeping it
• 30:17
  as an option or have given up and
• 30:20
  I've already made up their mind next year
• 30:22
  that they're doing the game circuit only.
• 30:27
  She was fifth by out out of fifty
• 30:29
  five points out of first.
• 30:31
  Yeah.
• 30:31
  Which is nothing with double points.
• 30:33
  No.
• 30:36
  Yeah,
• 30:36
  and just to refresh everybody's memory,
• 30:39
  it's Amy Kringle in first,
• 30:40
  Lucy Campbell in second,
• 30:42
  Laura Horvath in third,
• 30:43
  Ariel Lowen in fourth.
• 30:45
  It was Danielle Brandon in fifth,
• 30:47
  Emma Lawson in sixth,
• 30:48
  Emma Tall in seventh.
• 30:53
  Emma Tall is still in?
• 30:55
  As of now.
• 30:55
  Yeah.
• 30:55
  Yeah.
• 30:59
  I mean,
• 31:00
  like some of these people in that range,
• 31:02
  even if they're not feeling awesome at
• 31:04
  this point,
• 31:05
  I feel like might as well go.
• 31:07
  Because I think they can,
• 31:08
  if they want to participate in this season
• 31:10
  next year,
• 31:11
  like I think they've done enough to squeak
• 31:14
  by.
• 31:15
  Is there any additional money?
• 31:17
  I don't get how this part works.
• 31:19
  So if they've already made their contract,
• 31:21
  is there money to win at this particular
• 31:24
  event?
• 31:25
  Like the thirty K at this one as
• 31:27
  well.
• 31:27
  And like the same amount that there's not.
• 31:30
  Yeah.
• 31:31
  No,
• 31:32
  there's not a prize purse for this event.
• 31:36
  Like,
• 31:37
  if Danielle showed up and got twentieth
• 31:39
  here,
• 31:40
  and that put her into twelfth overall,
• 31:42
  she would win twelfth overall's prize
• 31:45
  purse from the whole season.
• 31:50
  And if that is above her thirty thousand
• 31:52
  dollar contract,
• 31:53
  then she would get more from the year.
• 31:56
  Which,
• 31:57
  that's where I feel like people like
• 31:58
  Hatfield and stuff,
• 31:59
  like
• 32:00
  It's a little weird to me that they've
• 32:02
  just decided they don't want to
• 32:03
  participate in this anymore.
• 32:04
  Like they probably could have won some
• 32:05
  more money.
• 32:06
  Because it's that plus the guaranteed of
• 32:09
  wherever you are from the eighty thousand
• 32:11
  to twentieth place to ten K for next
• 32:15
  year as well.
• 32:16
  So you're it's whatever the difference is,
• 32:19
  if there is one.
• 32:22
  Plus the guarantee of the next year.
• 32:25
  Correct.
• 32:26
  Yes.
• 32:28
  But anything you want on the previous tour
• 32:30
  stops goes towards your baseline contract.
• 32:35
  So you may already be over that.
• 32:38
  If you're Amy Kringle,
• 32:39
  you're probably already over your
• 32:41
  guarantee.
• 32:42
  And everything you make now is way above.
• 32:47
  It's more additional money.
• 32:50
  My only thought process is a couple of
• 32:52
  these people signed big,
• 32:53
  like the eighty hundred thousand dollar
• 32:55
  range.
• 32:56
  And
• 32:58
  just are, I mean, no, they,
• 33:00
  they can't get anything more out of this.
• 33:02
  So they're just taking the money that they
• 33:04
  got and being done.
• 33:07
  And again,
• 33:07
  that's why you don't do things like this.
• 33:09
  It has to be merit-based.
• 33:11
  Like you have to go earn it.
• 33:12
  You can't just give people money.
• 33:15
  Well,
• 33:15
  it is going to be merit-based going
• 33:16
  forward.
• 33:18
  And so, yeah,
• 33:20
  that was just for the first year.
• 33:21
  Yeah.
• 33:25
  They had to start somewhere, but
• 33:27
  I disagree.
• 33:28
  They could have started with an online
• 33:29
  qualifier.
• 33:31
  But that's over.
• 33:31
  We can't go back.
• 33:33
  We can't go back.
• 33:33
  Now it's merit-based.
• 33:35
  It's based on your season.
• 33:38
  And they're in such a pickle now.
• 33:40
  I don't even know what any of this
• 33:42
  is going to mean going forward.
• 33:46
  So here are the workouts.
• 33:49
  Now, again,
• 33:51
  this is supposed to be a season-long test.
• 33:54
  And I thought Hiller did a great job
• 33:56
  by putting them all on a whiteboard and
• 33:58
  showing, like,
• 33:59
  this should all be one big test.
• 34:02
  And he definitely found flaws in it all,
• 34:05
  right?
• 34:06
  That there was too much of this,
• 34:07
  not enough of that.
• 34:09
  And I thought it was a cool exercise
• 34:11
  to take two opposite people and predict
• 34:14
  kind of where they'd finish and see...
• 34:20
  was it a fair test across the board?
• 34:22
  Like Landon Collins and Travis mayor are
• 34:26
  two opposite type athletes.
• 34:29
  And how would they finish?
• 34:34
  Okay.
• 34:34
  I don't know if you you've seen that,
• 34:36
  but yeah.
• 34:40
  Logan Collins.
• 34:41
  Yeah.
• 34:43
  So let's go through the workouts.
• 34:46
  I don't have all the,
• 34:49
  The other twelve that go with these, nine.
• 34:52
  So I don't have the twenty-one.
• 34:53
  I just have the final nine.
• 34:55
  But let's talk about them.
• 34:58
  So we've already talked about the double
• 34:59
  swim.
• 35:02
  We don't need to go over that again.
• 35:04
  Then I think we even talked about the
• 35:06
  five rounds for time with the parallette
• 35:08
  handstand push-ups and the toes-to-bar and
• 35:10
  the axle-bar deadlifts.
• 35:13
  Yep.
• 35:13
  I think that's a good test.
• 35:14
  I like that one.
• 35:16
  Then we go to pro...
• 35:18
  This is the project one test.
• 35:20
  Okay.
• 35:20
  Do you want me to go back?
• 35:22
  No, no, no.
• 35:23
  Did it say it's kipping hands and pushups,
• 35:25
  right?
• 35:25
  For that one.
• 35:27
  I don't think we know.
• 35:28
  I don't think they're going to release
• 35:30
  that.
• 35:31
  I'll assume it is.
• 35:34
  Then the third event is the pro project
• 35:37
  one event,
• 35:38
  which is the whole community is to do.
• 35:41
  I just don't get the weight vest.
• 35:42
  Like what?
• 35:44
  I just think it's like,
• 35:45
  it's over programmed.
• 35:46
  Yeah.
• 35:46
  Why do you need a weight vest for
• 35:47
  the first half?
• 35:48
  Then take it off.
• 35:49
  Like, I don't know.
• 35:54
  What does a weight vest do on a
• 35:55
  skier?
• 35:57
  I mean, it's annoying on the shoulders.
• 35:59
  Yeah.
• 36:02
  C two bike.
• 36:04
  Does it affect your C two bike?
• 36:07
  It's just something on your chest to mess
• 36:10
  with your breathing.
• 36:10
  I feel like you just...
• 36:12
  Those vests get annoying.
• 36:13
  Yeah, CrossFit.
• 36:16
  Nothing like a vested bike or an erg.
• 36:19
  Elite fitness.
• 36:20
  I just think it's unnecessary.
• 36:22
  If you're going to do a cardio event,
• 36:25
  do a cardio event.
• 36:26
  You already have it with a bunch of
• 36:27
  machines in there too.
• 36:31
  Adding a weight vest only helps people
• 36:34
  that have a little bit more mass anyways
• 36:35
  because it's just...
• 36:38
  Well, it is sponsored by Five Eleven.
• 36:42
  There you go.
• 36:42
  That's why it's there.
• 36:46
  Right down here,
• 36:46
  you can see presented by five, eleven.
• 36:51
  So it's sixty fifty calorie C two bike,
• 36:55
  eight hundred meter run,
• 36:56
  one hundred twenty meter dumb dumbbell
• 36:59
  farmer carry eight hundred meter run,
• 37:01
  sixty fifty cow ski,
• 37:03
  eight hundred meter run.
• 37:03
  Then you drop the vest,
• 37:06
  sixty sandbag step overs.
• 37:08
  So I'm assuming you're holding the sandbag
• 37:09
  stepping over a box.
• 37:10
  Yeah, like one of these ones.
• 37:12
  Mm hmm.
• 37:13
  Uh, eight hundred meter run, sixty,
• 37:15
  fifty calorie row,
• 37:16
  eight hundred meter run,
• 37:17
  a hundred and twenty meter sandbag bear
• 37:19
  hug carry, eight hundred meter run,
• 37:21
  time cap, fifty minutes.
• 37:24
  Sheesh.
• 37:25
  It's gross.
• 37:26
  It's a long event.
• 37:30
  I like the, I like it.
• 37:31
  I just, I like a long event.
• 37:33
  Um, but yeah,
• 37:34
  the weight vest is completely unnecessary.
• 37:39
  This isn't supposed to be the event that,
• 37:41
  like, community-wide does, too.
• 37:43
  Yes.
• 37:45
  I wonder in the community version if
• 37:46
  there's no weight vest and they're trying
• 37:48
  to up it for the elites.
• 37:50
  And I do think that reps are down.
• 37:53
  Okay.
• 37:54
  How many people in the community want to
• 37:55
  do this workout?
• 37:59
  Jamie, Sam Briggs.
• 38:01
  Yes.
• 38:02
  I guess it is in Europe and Europe
• 38:04
  love great capacity, love running,
• 38:07
  they're fit.
• 38:09
  I understand.
• 38:10
  I feel bad for the people judging this
• 38:12
  event.
• 38:13
  That is awful.
• 38:17
  During the eight hundred,
• 38:18
  you're not really doing much.
• 38:19
  Yep.
• 38:20
  You're just waiting until they come back
• 38:21
  and hope that they count their laps
• 38:23
  correctly.
• 38:24
  So my question is,
• 38:24
  you've done a double swim with some
• 38:26
  machines.
• 38:28
  And then this for the third event,
• 38:29
  this is the I just feel like your
• 38:32
  monostructural.
• 38:35
  Pieces are.
• 38:37
  I don't know.
• 38:37
  I'm just I don't know programming.
• 38:39
  I'm just gonna let you guys talk.
• 38:40
  I'll shut up.
• 38:41
  Well,
• 38:41
  I don't think the swimmer is going to
• 38:42
  necessarily be the best runner.
• 38:44
  I know,
• 38:45
  but you're not really testing any skill at
• 38:48
  this point.
• 38:50
  No.
• 38:50
  Except for the handstand pushups.
• 38:52
  The parallette handstand pushups.
• 38:54
  All right.
• 38:56
  Then we go to a one rep max
• 38:57
  snatch.
• 38:59
  Time cap, eight minutes.
• 39:03
  Hate it.
• 39:03
  Well, I mean, if you have nine events,
• 39:07
  I think a one rep max of something
• 39:08
  is fine.
• 39:09
  Like in general.
• 39:11
  Um, if I had less than that,
• 39:12
  then I did.
• 39:14
  So they've had a, a max,
• 39:16
  a max clean, a max jerk,
• 39:18
  a max snatch.
• 39:22
  That's a ton of favoring the strength
• 39:26
  athletes.
• 39:27
  When you add these up over all the
• 39:29
  events and all the points go towards this
• 39:31
  fight.
• 39:31
  Like that's crazy.
• 39:34
  Yeah.
• 39:36
  And that clean ladder is almost like a
• 39:37
  max too.
• 39:38
  Exactly.
• 39:38
  Yeah.
• 39:42
  then the fifth event is a hundred wall
• 39:43
  balls hundred fifty weighted double unders
• 39:47
  fifty weighted ghd sit-ups hundred and
• 39:51
  fifty weighted double unders hundred
• 39:53
  pull-ups time cap eighteen minutes gnarly
• 39:58
  i'm i like this one's okay like out
• 40:02
  of the out of all the events of
• 40:04
  the this weekend i i like this one
• 40:07
  or the parallel hand sample
• 40:10
  Yeah, I agree.
• 40:11
  This one's fine.
• 40:13
  I personally don't like the weighted GHG
• 40:15
  setups.
• 40:16
  I've never liked them.
• 40:18
  I don't know why we keep doing them.
• 40:19
  At least it's only fifty.
• 40:23
  They've done it twice, yeah.
• 40:28
  Weighted double unders, that's fine.
• 40:30
  I'm assuming it's the Valitez maybe rope?
• 40:33
  Yeah.
• 40:34
  Because that's sponsor.
• 40:36
  Yep.
• 40:38
  So I don't know that skipping rope,
• 40:40
  if it's heavy handles, heavy cables,
• 40:42
  or which one it is.
• 40:45
  This one's okay, though.
• 40:47
  I wonder if they have to use the
• 40:48
  rope.
• 40:49
  This is where Colton had the issue with
• 40:52
  the Velita's rope.
• 40:54
  At the games.
• 40:56
  Oh, it was at the games.
• 40:57
  It wasn't this.
• 40:58
  Okay.
• 40:59
  CrossFit says,
• 41:00
  this is in reference to the one Ripmac
• 41:02
  snatch.
• 41:03
  Great for socials.
• 41:04
  The other strengths were balanced with the
• 41:05
  second piece.
• 41:10
  I mean, it can be great for socials.
• 41:12
  It can be awful for socials too.
• 41:14
  If you have a,
• 41:17
  a Brooke Wells incident or, I mean,
• 41:20
  you just,
• 41:22
  we get picked on by the high level
• 41:26
  Ali IG people pulling up our videos and
• 41:30
  rehashing our lifts.
• 41:31
  Like they're not perfect.
• 41:35
  Maybe, maybe we don't need to do these.
• 41:38
  The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
• 41:40
  the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
• 41:46
  the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
• 41:48
  the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
• 41:51
  the, the,
• 42:07
  People get away with the chest of our
• 42:08
  two though.
• 42:09
  They don't actually touch their chest.
• 42:12
  You think they like a loose shirt?
• 42:14
  Yes.
• 42:17
  I feel like most people are like shirtless
• 42:18
  now by that,
• 42:19
  by this point in the workout.
• 42:21
  Well, that's true.
• 42:22
  Except for me on the floor.
• 42:27
  The thing about a hundred pull-ups too,
• 42:28
  like that's nothing for an elite athlete.
• 42:31
  When it's a dense set like this,
• 42:34
  like that muscle stamina starts,
• 42:37
  because it'd be different if it's like ten
• 42:39
  rounds of ten, fifteen, you know, five,
• 42:42
  fifteen, ten, right?
• 42:44
  Like the intensity is up higher,
• 42:47
  but like having dense sets like that of
• 42:49
  hundred, you can overdo it on...
• 42:55
  Like at the,
• 42:56
  at the end of a workout.
• 42:58
  Like, I mean, what was it at crash?
• 43:00
  Carolyn went last year.
• 43:01
  Was it fifty chest of ours?
• 43:03
  Because people were doing like ones and
• 43:04
  twos at the end of that workout.
• 43:07
  Yeah, but I'm saying regular pull-ups.
• 43:10
  Like I remember in the regional days when
• 43:11
  like Camille did eighty to start off a
• 43:13
  set.
• 43:15
  Like it's different than a chest of ours.
• 43:17
  Not at the end of the workout.
• 43:18
  It's not, I think it's going to,
• 43:19
  you have wall balls will get your
• 43:21
  shoulders fatigued.
• 43:23
  Then the heavy double runners will get
• 43:24
  your grip fatigued a lot,
• 43:26
  grip and shoulders.
• 43:28
  But that heavy, that heavy rope is,
• 43:30
  is affecting your grip to then go into
• 43:32
  the pull-ups like this.
• 43:34
  This will,
• 43:36
  they won't be doing a set of eight.
• 43:39
  I don't think you're going to, yeah.
• 43:39
  You're not going to see somebody go do
• 43:41
  two sets here.
• 43:42
  Like it's going to get broken up.
• 43:45
  CrossFit says,
• 43:46
  now we know why Caro wears oversized tees.
• 43:49
  They're not oversized tees.
• 43:51
  They're regular tees.
• 43:52
  Some of the girls wear very large tees.
• 43:55
  I'm just a regular t-shirt girl.
• 44:00
  All right.
• 44:00
  Sixth, buy-in of a thirty-six meter run.
• 44:04
  We've talked about that online.
• 44:07
  What a buy-in.
• 44:09
  At first,
• 44:10
  when I was running eighteen meters,
• 44:11
  I was like,
• 44:13
  Eighteen meters buy-in?
• 44:15
  I'm like, what is this?
• 44:17
  Five rounds of twelve meter handstand walk
• 44:20
  obstacle.
• 44:21
  Thirty-six meter shuttle run.
• 44:24
  Buy-out six meter handstand walk obstacle.
• 44:29
  Six meter.
• 44:32
  We don't have the details of the obstacle.
• 44:34
  Is it zigzag?
• 44:36
  Is it the stair with the
• 44:40
  with the ramp um so i guess well
• 44:44
  i didn't look at the videos on youtube
• 44:46
  or their video but after five rounds of
• 44:49
  doing the obstacle for twelve meters each
• 44:52
  round yeah why not just have them run
• 44:54
  to the end i'm assuming you have to
• 44:57
  finish that last little obstacle before
• 44:59
  versus running on top of the obstacle
• 45:01
  that's how i visualize it right now okay
• 45:06
  I don't,
• 45:06
  it's going to come down to just execution
• 45:08
  of execution and speed of the, um,
• 45:12
  handstand obstacle,
• 45:14
  because if you jog really fast, well,
• 45:17
  then are you able to kick up and
• 45:19
  go into these obstacles?
• 45:21
  Winded high heart rate upside down to be
• 45:24
  able to repeat.
• 45:25
  So someone like Danielle would be great at
• 45:26
  this, right?
• 45:27
  Cause she's a great runner and amazing on
• 45:29
  her hands under that high heart rate or
• 45:31
  area.
• 45:31
  We'll crush this.
• 45:32
  Um, yeah, but.
• 45:35
  Yeah,
• 45:35
  it's going to come down to the execution
• 45:36
  and what those obstacles are.
• 45:37
  Actually,
• 45:38
  someone like Andrea Solberg could be very,
• 45:41
  very impressive here.
• 45:43
  If you've ever seen that girl do some
• 45:45
  obstacle stuff on her hand,
• 45:46
  like it's crazy.
• 45:49
  Then the seventh event,
• 45:50
  we have five rounds for time,
• 45:51
  two rope climbs,
• 45:52
  three hundred meter run and cleans.
• 45:55
  And it is a ladder, a four, three,
• 45:57
  two, one,
• 45:58
  one with increasing weight on the bar each
• 46:01
  time.
• 46:04
  unnecessarily heavy.
• 46:05
  This should have just been a clean ladder
• 46:07
  or just go.
• 46:08
  I mean, this is just silly to me.
• 46:10
  What's interesting is like when you start
• 46:14
  going heavy like this,
• 46:15
  you normally want to,
• 46:16
  some people like to lift and lifters,
• 46:18
  but then it's paired with rope climbs and
• 46:20
  run.
• 46:21
  You can't wear running shoes because that
• 46:22
  ruins the,
• 46:23
  like the shoes for your rope climbs.
• 46:26
  So you're wearing trainers here.
• 46:28
  Um, and sometimes, especially in a school,
• 46:31
  like let's say squat clean, um,
• 46:33
  You'll see some misses just because people
• 46:35
  would prefer to lift those heavyweights
• 46:38
  with their lifters.
• 46:39
  So how often do people train these loads
• 46:43
  without their special shoes, right?
• 46:45
  Right.
• 46:48
  I mean, in the first event,
• 46:50
  we had the run, rope climb, snatch.
• 46:57
  No, you had the run, ring muscle-ups,
• 47:01
  and snatch.
• 47:02
  Oh, okay.
• 47:03
  Okay.
• 47:06
  Is what I'm thinking of.
• 47:08
  But that was a light snatch.
• 47:09
  It was a lighter snatch.
• 47:11
  I wouldn't say it was light.
• 47:13
  People were failing that last bar.
• 47:15
  Not because it wasn't light,
• 47:17
  just because they had gone to their max
• 47:19
  capacity with the ring.
• 47:20
  I would say it was the right weight.
• 47:22
  Any heavier,
• 47:23
  you would have actually had to back off
• 47:26
  of the workout to be able to hit
• 47:28
  that bar.
• 47:29
  It was a weight that you could go
• 47:31
  touch and go,
• 47:32
  but it probably wasn't worth it until the
• 47:35
  last round when you try to go for
• 47:36
  it.
• 47:38
  Um, but yeah, these, these weights are,
• 47:41
  are very heavy.
• 47:42
  Um, ridiculously heavy,
• 47:45
  especially with the field that's coming
• 47:46
  now.
• 47:46
  I don't know how many, I mean, two,
• 47:50
  now for the girls is a weight that
• 47:54
  I want to say is average now,
• 47:56
  almost average.
• 47:57
  Be curious to see what that is in
• 47:59
  comparison to what the field cleaned at
• 48:03
  the past, um, event.
• 48:07
  Three forty to forty.
• 48:10
  Yeah.
• 48:11
  What's the over under on the number of
• 48:13
  women who can't finish the ladder?
• 48:21
  I'm starting to look at eight.
• 48:22
  OK, so three.
• 48:23
  So two rope climbs plus three hundred
• 48:25
  meters, just that five times.
• 48:27
  How long is that?
• 48:33
  It's what, eight hundred meter run?
• 48:36
  Well,
• 48:36
  you have three hundred meters every time,
• 48:38
  plus two rope climbs.
• 48:40
  So you're looking at about, you know,
• 48:41
  two and a half minutes times five.
• 48:43
  You're ten.
• 48:44
  Let's let's call it ten minutes right
• 48:45
  there.
• 48:47
  Yeah.
• 48:48
  Then you got five minutes to do these.
• 48:53
  It is hard to read CrossFit.
• 48:57
  I mean,
• 48:58
  some of them just might need more time
• 49:00
  to get settled.
• 49:02
  They might miss.
• 49:03
  Some of them definitely will get time
• 49:04
  capped.
• 49:08
  What did the weight go up to at
• 49:09
  crash in that double under total bar
• 49:12
  workout?
• 49:15
  Two or five, maybe.
• 49:16
  And there was seven,
• 49:18
  eight girls there who couldn't even do the
• 49:20
  last bar.
• 49:21
  But I, I think this is,
• 49:23
  I don't think it's the same field.
• 49:25
  One, two,
• 49:26
  I don't think there was like a hundred
• 49:31
  toast bars in that and double unders.
• 49:36
  Yeah, but this is event seven.
• 49:38
  I mean,
• 49:38
  is this the first event on the third
• 49:40
  day?
• 49:41
  With all these replacements and the
• 49:43
  withdrawals,
• 49:45
  I think a third of the field doesn't
• 49:47
  finish.
• 49:47
  I totally agree, Scott.
• 49:49
  It's definitely too heavy.
• 49:51
  They didn't need this event.
• 49:53
  You can have a moderate heavy clean
• 49:55
  without it being like almost at people's
• 49:57
  maxes, like ninety percent.
• 50:01
  I don't think it needed to go above
• 50:02
  two or five.
• 50:04
  Yeah.
• 50:05
  Yeah.
• 50:05
  Two Oh five, two,
• 50:05
  fifteen would've been fine.
• 50:07
  Give it three weeks.
• 50:08
  It could be a similar field to the
• 50:09
  crash.
• 50:11
  I mean,
• 50:11
  I would say it kind of almost like,
• 50:13
  sure.
• 50:13
  There's, you got five,
• 50:14
  six there at the top that are going
• 50:16
  to probably be okay here,
• 50:18
  but you go down the list.
• 50:21
  People are give it three weeks,
• 50:23
  weeks and denses in.
• 50:28
  Yeah.
• 50:29
  I mean, Haley's probably thankful.
• 50:31
  She's not going.
• 50:35
  All right.
• 50:36
  Eighth workout is for time.
• 50:39
  Thirty twenty four cal echo bike.
• 50:41
  You have to read it like Hiller.
• 50:43
  Echo bike.
• 50:46
  Echo bike.
• 50:47
  Some of his takes on some of these
• 50:49
  things just really boggle my mind.
• 50:53
  Twenty saw devil's press.
• 50:57
  Twenty saw overhead squat squat.
• 51:05
  um yeah and then fourteen saw devil's
• 51:13
  press fourteen saw oh squat thirty twenty
• 51:16
  four cal echo bike eight saw devil's press
• 51:20
  and eight saw oh squat i mean another
• 51:25
  workout that goes all the way until
• 51:28
  you know,
• 51:28
  one hundred seventy pounds in the
• 51:29
  dumbbell,
• 51:31
  that overhead squat will start testing
• 51:33
  people's mobility for sure.
• 51:36
  A lot of people get very toesy on
• 51:38
  the the dumbbell overhead squats and lean
• 51:42
  a lot to one side.
• 51:44
  So I think we're going to be seeing
• 51:45
  a lot of people struggling with one
• 51:48
  hundred and seventy pounds in that
• 51:51
  overhead squat position,
• 51:53
  really being challenged with their
• 51:55
  their positionings there.
• 51:58
  Um, CrossFit says, again,
• 52:00
  another power output heavy one.
• 52:02
  Yes.
• 52:03
  It's crazy that we could use all that
• 52:06
  space for the full words.
• 52:08
  Yeah.
• 52:09
  There's a lot of empty space on this.
• 52:11
  I mean,
• 52:11
  I write it like that when I write
• 52:13
  it.
• 52:13
  I do too.
• 52:13
  Like this doesn't bother me at all,
• 52:17
  but that's how I write it.
• 52:19
  Since two thousand eleven.
• 52:22
  And I've never seen saw a single arm.
• 52:25
  That's how I write it.
• 52:26
  That's how I write it every time.
• 52:27
  It's never been that way on any of
• 52:29
  the places I've been.
• 52:30
  I usually put a backsplash in there or
• 52:33
  I guess forward slash.
• 52:33
  I usually use S forward slash A whenever
• 52:36
  I do single arm or single leg.
• 52:38
  I have a forward slash.
• 52:41
  But yeah, this doesn't bother me at all.
• 52:43
  That's exactly how I write it.
• 52:46
  But then like I would write it.
• 52:49
  I probably wouldn't write single arm
• 52:51
  overhead if I'm sending it to someone.
• 52:53
  It's more like my notes would be like
• 52:55
  S-A-O-H.
• 52:59
  Very common.
• 53:01
  I would have used O-H-S and not O-H-Squat.
• 53:05
  Yeah, I would do OHS too.
• 53:07
  That's true.
• 53:07
  It's like a mix of some things are
• 53:12
  abbreviated, some things are not.
• 53:14
  And that's why it looks weird to me.
• 53:15
  Like saw by itself doesn't look right
• 53:19
  because OHS isn't beside it.
• 53:21
  It's OH squat.
• 53:23
  And CrossFit says write it out the first
• 53:26
  time and then abbreviate the rest of the
• 53:28
  repeats.
• 53:30
  Yeah.
• 53:32
  That's fair.
• 53:35
  Yeah, I like that there.
• 53:39
  Another workout that has machine heavy on
• 53:46
  the overhead squats at the end,
• 53:49
  coming off the heavy cleans.
• 53:54
  Jay Burch asks, is this alternating?
• 53:57
  It does not say.
• 53:58
  I doubt that you have to.
• 54:00
  I don't think you have to.
• 54:00
  Yeah,
• 54:00
  I'm sure you can do whatever you want.
• 54:02
  You can do five per arm.
• 54:03
  You can do every other.
• 54:04
  Yeah, you'll pick whatever arm.
• 54:05
  Yeah.
• 54:13
  I didn't change devil's press into an
• 54:14
  acronym.
• 54:15
  Weird.
• 54:15
  Yeah, we didn't want the DP.
• 54:18
  And the box jumps are what height?
• 54:21
  Thirty.
• 54:22
  Thirty six.
• 54:22
  Thirty.
• 54:23
  Yeah, this is.
• 54:24
  Yeah, I.
• 54:25
  Everything about this is big, big man,
• 54:29
  power output, strong.
• 54:31
  Like, I mean,
• 54:32
  I would like the jumping personally,
• 54:34
  but yeah.
• 54:37
  Uh,
• 54:38
  the final workout is three rounds for
• 54:40
  time.
• 54:41
  Ten, eight ring muscle ups,
• 54:43
  eight thruster,
• 54:44
  nine meter front rack walking lunge.
• 54:47
  Time cap, ten minutes.
• 54:48
  Short barrel.
• 54:50
  I'm assuming that's the bar.
• 54:53
  Probably.
• 54:53
  Shorty bar.
• 54:55
  yeah yeah shorty bar what's the weight on
• 54:59
  that barbell this green is very hard which
• 55:01
  makes it feel even heavier yeah on the
• 55:03
  on the thruster um yeah that's tough
• 55:08
  that's tough workout what was the weight
• 55:11
  one eighty five one twenty five whoo on
• 55:14
  the thruster i'm not as worried with the
• 55:16
  walking lunge because like i would
• 55:18
  probably go like this just to save my
• 55:20
  my shoulders and stuff but
• 55:23
  Those eight thrusters at the one twenty
• 55:24
  five paired with the eight ring muscle
• 55:26
  ups.
• 55:28
  Is it three rounds?
• 55:31
  Spicy.
• 55:33
  Yeah, this is snarly.
• 55:35
  Again, overprogrammed.
• 55:38
  If you're colorblind, it's gray on gray.
• 55:41
  Yeah,
• 55:41
  I don't think it needed to be this
• 55:42
  heavy at all.
• 55:46
  Yeah,
• 55:46
  we make it more make it more sprinty
• 55:48
  at the end, make it lighter.
• 55:51
  then one,
• 55:52
  and let's get more of a race.
• 55:56
  Yep.
• 55:57
  Do you,
• 55:57
  do you think they're looking at these
• 55:59
  withdrawals and looking at this
• 56:00
  programming and thinking this is why we're
• 56:02
  losing some people or do you think they
• 56:04
  don't, they're unaware of that?
• 56:06
  I think they're unaware.
• 56:08
  I think they're oblivious.
• 56:12
  Will thinks they're great events.
• 56:14
  He would probably crush them.
• 56:16
  He probably can't see the fault in it.
• 56:18
  I just... I personally...
• 56:20
  And you guys know my bias.
• 56:21
  So everything to me just is heavy.
• 56:24
  Unnecessarily heavy for heavy's sake.
• 56:26
  And I just...
• 56:27
  i don't know i'm sick of it i'm
• 56:29
  sick of seeing like even at crash like
• 56:31
  people just standing there not able to do
• 56:33
  that last bar like you could have been
• 56:35
  the fittest person there and then you had
• 56:37
  to stop and people pass you i hate
• 56:39
  seeing that at events but i think you
• 56:40
  should be able to clean tool five at
• 56:42
  that level like i don't think that that's
• 56:46
  well they when you invite masters there
• 56:48
  that can't like that that's different but
• 56:52
  i don't i wouldn't say that like the
• 56:54
  last bar crash was ridiculously heavy
• 56:59
  I think this clean ladder is definitely
• 57:01
  very, very heavy.
• 57:03
  Overly heavy for what it needed to be.
• 57:05
  We're going to see a lot of standing
• 57:07
  around.
• 57:10
  I think they could have ended it around
• 57:11
  two fifteen.
• 57:12
  And that would have been fine.
• 57:15
  What happened to just two forty two is
• 57:18
  insane.
• 57:18
  It's insane.
• 57:19
  It's insane.
• 57:22
  Like the one year at the games we
• 57:23
  ended,
• 57:24
  it was the two hundred meter run with
• 57:27
  the the cleans and we ended at two
• 57:29
  thirty five for the females.
• 57:32
  And I think a lot of the girls
• 57:33
  got capped there.
• 57:35
  Yeah.
• 57:35
  And that was twenty twenty.
• 57:37
  Haley had to stand there and Sam,
• 57:39
  they just stood there like that's not fun
• 57:41
  to watch.
• 57:42
  I remember standing there like I think I
• 57:43
  had like tears in my eyes just watching
• 57:45
  them just stand there like this is awful.
• 57:50
  Cause you had people with eight minutes in
• 57:52
  their cap last time.
• 57:54
  And I want to say that like two
• 57:57
  Forty may have been the average,
• 57:59
  but they had eight minutes to kind of
• 58:00
  build up to that under fatigue with the
• 58:03
  run rope climb,
• 58:05
  not maybe having their shoes or the right
• 58:08
  setup.
• 58:09
  I think it'll be tougher half the field
• 58:11
  at least.
• 58:17
  All right.
• 58:17
  So I want to move into something more
• 58:19
  positive.
• 58:20
  than the wfp and that is we have
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  I'm not groggy.
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  I don't have that melatonin feeling and
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  it's freaking awesome.
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  So,
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  so last week I had only had it
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  cold.
• 59:20
  Yeah.
• 59:21
  And then you guys convinced me to take
• 59:22
  it hot.
• 59:24
  And now I'm like,
• 59:25
  that's what I had at the beginning of
• 59:26
  the show.
• 59:26
  And I probably, I was trying to,
• 59:28
  I was just trying to have like a
• 59:29
  tiny sip at the beginning.
• 59:30
  And I just,
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  it was so good that I just kept
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  having it earlier than I wanted to.
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  But the hot salted caramel is where it's
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  It is the best.
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  I like the cold too,
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  but hot is even better.
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  Especially at wintertime.
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  Smuggle right up, get under a blanket.
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  That's what I've been doing in the evening
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  as I'm doing work or whatever,
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  watching TV.
• 59:55
  I'm like, I have my hot,
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  thirsty salted caramel.
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  It's great.
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  Looking forward to seeing if he can sleep
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  That's what I'm trying to do, John,
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  and it worked.
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  Yeah.
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  Tag us in that, John.
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  I'm curious to see if that works for
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  Yeah.
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  That's what I thought.
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  Ten PM Eastern time.
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  The sale is on through then.
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  So there we go.
• 1:00:42
  So now, our next pencil, pen,
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  and Sharpie as we move into some pretty
• 1:00:47
  cool news.
• 1:00:50
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
• 1:00:51
  CrossFit Media is getting back to the
• 1:00:53
  roots of the methodology and it's
• 1:00:55
  rebuilding the base.
• 1:01:07
  Pen.
• 1:01:07
  Yeah, pen.
• 1:01:07
  I agree with that statement.
• 1:01:09
  The base, yeah.
• 1:01:11
  I still think that they need to work
• 1:01:13
  on a little bit more expanding.
• 1:01:16
  But I think it's good to rally to
• 1:01:18
  get the base on board and the people
• 1:01:20
  who are currently doing CrossFit on board.
• 1:01:23
  But more to get people into our gyms.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  More clearer like
• 1:01:35
  ig and facebook posts of what is crossfit
• 1:01:39
  like short catching yes consistent
• 1:01:42
  messaging that can be easily shared that
• 1:01:44
  draws people in yeah just more more
• 1:01:49
  frequent it's it's like there there's some
• 1:01:52
  good stuff i still want it more uh
• 1:01:57
  clock says pencil
• 1:01:59
  Um,
• 1:02:00
  what I've seen is like these really cool,
• 1:02:03
  like highlight videos and an affiliate
• 1:02:05
  where it's people of different ages,
• 1:02:07
  people of different groups, um,
• 1:02:09
  that we had the F the quick fix,
• 1:02:11
  um,
• 1:02:12
  You know, CrossFit's the answer.
• 1:02:15
  We had Forging Elite Fitness.
• 1:02:17
  Now they're running James Sprague is What
• 1:02:19
  Makes a Good Coach.
• 1:02:20
  I don't know if you guys have seen
• 1:02:22
  that now.
• 1:02:23
  It's like a Q&A with James Sprague talking
• 1:02:25
  about what makes a good coach in the
• 1:02:27
  affiliate, which is interesting.
• 1:02:30
  But what we stumbled upon last week is
• 1:02:33
  there was a gentleman named Ethan Bernard
• 1:02:38
  who was going to Tennessee to visit family
• 1:02:40
  for Thanksgiving.
• 1:02:43
  and i'm going to pull up his instagram
• 1:02:45
  here sure i am um this is the
• 1:02:54
  post that i saw that started me wondering
• 1:02:57
  what was going on and
• 1:03:00
  trying crossfit for the first time today
• 1:03:02
  right now we're in tennessee visiting my
• 1:03:04
  family for thanksgiving i'm really excited
• 1:03:07
  for that but an opportunity came up today
• 1:03:09
  for us to visit one of the biggest
• 1:03:10
  crossfit gyms in the country and i'm going
• 1:03:13
  to be doing a full class this afternoon
• 1:03:15
  i'm nervous but i'm excited starting out
• 1:03:19
  the day with some clean protein i got
• 1:03:21
  my so this guy has been on a
• 1:03:23
  weight loss journey he started at six
• 1:03:25
  hundred and sixty pounds he is now down
• 1:03:28
  to four sixty
• 1:03:30
  And that big Jim,
• 1:03:32
  as we all could figure out who have
• 1:03:34
  been around the CrossFit space,
• 1:03:35
  was CrossFit Mayhem.
• 1:03:38
  And he went the day before Thanksgiving.
• 1:03:41
  There were stories on his Instagram that
• 1:03:44
  are no longer up there of him working
• 1:03:46
  out with Josh Malone at Mayhem,
• 1:03:49
  being taught like push-ups on a barbell on
• 1:03:52
  a rig, those kinds of things.
• 1:03:54
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:56
  was doing a show last week and people
• 1:03:57
  were asking what are they doing with this
• 1:03:59
  they need to film this we need to
• 1:04:01
  do all this kind of thing right i
• 1:04:03
  reached out to jenna halka there is a
• 1:04:06
  video coming out the end of this week
• 1:04:07
  on this guy's adventure at mayhem and i
• 1:04:11
  am so pumped for that
• 1:04:14
  That's great.
• 1:04:15
  That is great.
• 1:04:16
  I think I do.
• 1:04:17
  It's stuff like that,
• 1:04:18
  like scaled pushups showing that someone
• 1:04:21
  that size can get in there and do
• 1:04:23
  it.
• 1:04:23
  And there is an option because people
• 1:04:25
  still are like, it's too hard.
• 1:04:26
  I can't do it.
• 1:04:27
  I need to lose weight before I go
• 1:04:28
  in or look a certain way.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah.
• 1:04:31
  People need to see that you can walk
• 1:04:32
  in and do.
• 1:04:33
  We will find you something to do.
• 1:04:35
  It's doable.
• 1:04:35
  Mm hmm.
• 1:04:37
  went off on a little riff over the
• 1:04:39
  week because some of the comments were
• 1:04:41
  crossfit's dangerous you shouldn't be
• 1:04:42
  doing that at your weight blah blah blah
• 1:04:45
  and i lost my mind on the lunch
• 1:04:47
  show this week i'm not going to rehash
• 1:04:50
  that um but as someone who walked into
• 1:04:53
  a crossfit gym at four hundred five
• 1:04:55
  hundred pounds um like i had such good
• 1:05:01
  coaching that showed me a way to do
• 1:05:03
  crossfit in a way that i was successful
• 1:05:05
  and i
• 1:05:07
  lost over two hundred pounds myself so
• 1:05:10
  like I know it works and I not
• 1:05:13
  only did I not get hurt the aches
• 1:05:15
  and pains of my life started to go
• 1:05:16
  away and so I really hate when people
• 1:05:20
  step in on the internet and someone who
• 1:05:24
  has already lost two hundred pounds try to
• 1:05:26
  get in their way of accomplishing even
• 1:05:28
  more that really got under my skin this
• 1:05:32
  week but
• 1:05:34
  Um,
• 1:05:34
  but I cannot wait to see the results
• 1:05:36
  of this.
• 1:05:36
  And now I've been following this guy, um,
• 1:05:39
  as he continues his journey, um,
• 1:05:41
  through the weight loss thing.
• 1:05:42
  And I think it's going to be fun
• 1:05:43
  to see.
• 1:05:44
  So does he belong to a CrossFit gym
• 1:05:45
  at home?
• 1:05:47
  This was his first attempt at CrossFit was
• 1:05:50
  at mayhem.
• 1:05:50
  Okay.
• 1:05:52
  Um,
• 1:05:52
  he's been working with a nutritionist and
• 1:05:55
  a, uh, like a private, uh, trainer.
• 1:05:58
  Okay.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah.
• 1:05:59
  And he'd now he wanted,
• 1:06:01
  I don't know what the whole story is.
• 1:06:03
  I'm sure we'll find out more in the
• 1:06:05
  video.
• 1:06:05
  If,
• 1:06:05
  if that's something he wants to dabble
• 1:06:07
  into now or not, I don't know.
• 1:06:09
  All I know is the visit to mayhem.
• 1:06:13
  And in his, in some,
• 1:06:14
  some of the stories, he was like,
• 1:06:15
  it was awesome.
• 1:06:16
  It was hard.
• 1:06:17
  I had a good time and he seemed
• 1:06:20
  to really enjoy it.
• 1:06:21
  So I'm anxious to see how the video
• 1:06:23
  comes out.
• 1:06:24
  Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Yeah, no, I agree.
• 1:06:28
  We need to see more of that kind
• 1:06:30
  of stuff.
• 1:06:32
  And especially if you can put, you know,
• 1:06:35
  different age or different bodies in
• 1:06:39
  classes where you see them doing the
• 1:06:41
  different movements and just pump that
• 1:06:44
  content all the time to like.
• 1:06:47
  reiterate to people that what they're
• 1:06:49
  seeing from the people that have thousands
• 1:06:52
  of followers or hundreds of thousands of
• 1:06:54
  followers or the CrossFit games is not
• 1:06:57
  what you're going to be forced to do
• 1:07:00
  at a CrossFit gym.
• 1:07:02
  And that everyone is at their own pace,
• 1:07:04
  pushing themselves at their, you know,
• 1:07:08
  ability and at the right intensity for
• 1:07:11
  them, their relative intensity, right?
• 1:07:14
  Like that stuff is so important to see.
• 1:07:18
  My, um,
• 1:07:19
  my only suggestion to them at this point,
• 1:07:22
  one, well,
• 1:07:23
  it's actually to have an action item at
• 1:07:25
  the end of your videos.
• 1:07:27
  Yeah.
• 1:07:27
  Like how do you get to an affiliate?
• 1:07:29
  Just tell me how to do that.
• 1:07:30
  And the other thing is,
• 1:07:32
  and this is something that Savannah said a
• 1:07:34
  long time ago,
• 1:07:35
  it doesn't need to be so polished every
• 1:07:37
  time, you know,
• 1:07:39
  it can be like Instagram is full of
• 1:07:41
  people with an iPhone.
• 1:07:43
  And they're popular and they go viral and
• 1:07:47
  they do amazing things on there.
• 1:07:48
  Not everything has to be an eight K
• 1:07:51
  camera that's edited down to the minutia
• 1:07:55
  of it all.
• 1:07:57
  Just put, like Carolyn said,
• 1:07:58
  pump out the content.
• 1:08:01
  Don't let the editing slow you down.
• 1:08:04
  There is stuff that is really,
• 1:08:07
  really good that you can just pump out.
• 1:08:11
  Everyday heroes, just pumping them out.
• 1:08:14
  It doesn't have to be glossy and shiny
• 1:08:17
  every single attempt.
• 1:08:25
  Jay Burch said a relative intensity.
• 1:08:27
  Well said, Carolyn.
• 1:08:31
  So that was really cool.
• 1:08:33
  I was so glad I stumbled upon that
• 1:08:35
  and got to follow up with Jenna on
• 1:08:37
  that.
• 1:08:37
  Yeah,
• 1:08:38
  I hope that they do a follow-up down
• 1:08:41
  the road to see how he's doing and
• 1:08:46
  just continue to follow his journey.
• 1:08:48
  It's interesting.
• 1:08:52
  Because they did one on you when you
• 1:08:54
  started, right?
• 1:08:57
  Like a long, long, long time ago?
• 1:08:59
  Yeah.
• 1:08:59
  What year was that?
• 1:09:00
  It was just five years ago during COVID.
• 1:09:02
  It was twenty twenty?
• 1:09:05
  Twenty twenty.
• 1:09:07
  But there's never been no like follow up.
• 1:09:09
  Like I want to see like they should
• 1:09:10
  do like follow up down the road, right?
• 1:09:13
  Yeah.
• 1:09:15
  Be good to see and just keep people
• 1:09:19
  engaged with just that stuff.
• 1:09:21
  John George says,
• 1:09:21
  I still think a spin on the I
• 1:09:23
  am CrossFit would be great.
• 1:09:25
  Show people in their everyday life job and
• 1:09:27
  then in the box with them saying I
• 1:09:28
  am CrossFit.
• 1:09:30
  Yeah, that'd be good.
• 1:09:31
  That'd be cool.
• 1:09:33
  And that wouldn't need to be glossy.
• 1:09:34
  That could just be quick hitters on an
• 1:09:37
  iPhone.
• 1:09:38
  Some affiliates do it,
• 1:09:40
  but it needs to come from the main
• 1:09:41
  account.
• 1:09:42
  Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  There's just way more followers.
• 1:09:45
  CrossFit says,
• 1:09:46
  I miss the old workout of the day
• 1:09:47
  videos.
• 1:09:51
  Yeah.
• 1:09:52
  If they just had a repository where
• 1:09:53
  affiliates could like,
• 1:09:55
  affiliates would love to be featured on
• 1:09:58
  CrossFit HQ.
• 1:09:59
  Just make a repository for them to dump
• 1:10:02
  like an IM CrossFit video.
• 1:10:04
  And you'd have thousands to choose from.
• 1:10:06
  Yep.
• 1:10:12
  All right.
• 1:10:12
  Last pencil, pen,
• 1:10:13
  or Sharpie for the night.
• 1:10:16
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie.
• 1:10:18
  Pre-physical screenings are more optics
• 1:10:21
  than true value.
• 1:10:26
  Sharpie.
• 1:10:29
  Say that again.
• 1:10:32
  Pre-physical screenings are more optics
• 1:10:37
  than true value.
• 1:10:40
  I guess it depends who's doing the
• 1:10:41
  physicals and because people,
• 1:10:45
  if it's their own people,
• 1:10:46
  they're going to sign off on whatever
• 1:10:48
  injury they have or pre.
• 1:10:51
  There's a, I don't know.
• 1:10:57
  You could find out stuff,
• 1:10:58
  but it just depends who's taking it and
• 1:11:00
  what they're even pre-screening for.
• 1:11:03
  So the reason this is brought up is
• 1:11:04
  CrossFit has announced that they are going
• 1:11:06
  to force all individual and team athletes
• 1:11:09
  at the games to go through a physical
• 1:11:13
  prior to competing at the games.
• 1:11:15
  However,
• 1:11:16
  that physical is done on your own dime
• 1:11:20
  and you just bring,
• 1:11:21
  I'm assuming you'll be given a sheet that
• 1:11:24
  needs to be filled out.
• 1:11:26
  I would hope something to make it
• 1:11:28
  consistent.
• 1:11:30
  But if you get to take it to
• 1:11:31
  your own doctor and,
• 1:11:33
  I think it's all optics.
• 1:11:34
  Yep.
• 1:11:39
  But like in sports,
• 1:11:41
  like even if there's trades, right.
• 1:11:43
  In professional sports,
• 1:11:44
  do you have to pass some sort of
• 1:11:45
  physical before, you know,
• 1:11:47
  the trade deal is even accepted sometimes.
• 1:11:50
  So it's not like it's a new thing
• 1:11:53
  in our sport.
• 1:11:54
  That's not happening elsewhere.
• 1:11:56
  Like it does happen in every sport.
• 1:11:58
  Yeah.
• 1:11:58
  And sometimes but it's done by the new
• 1:12:01
  team who's going to do a thorough
• 1:12:03
  investigation in this scenario.
• 1:12:06
  Yeah, because they don't they'll be like,
• 1:12:07
  oh,
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  you didn't tell us before this trade that
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  this person has this, this,
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  this wrong deals off.
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  Right.
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  Um, or just,
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  you need to get medically cleared.
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  Even like when I was on, like,
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  you know, at Wisconsin,
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  like you couldn't play,
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  like you had a medical stuff,
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  like a testing and physical testing at the
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  beginning of the season.
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  And you have to pass those before playing.
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  Um, but those were done by,
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  by the school and yeah,
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  they want us to play,
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  but you have to still pass that in
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  this case.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know how that's going to work
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  in terms of you're going to your own
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  doctor, um,
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  I mean,
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  if people have something really wrong,
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  they won't be able to get away with
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  it because, I mean,
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  a medical professional should be keeping
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  their clients safe as much as possible.
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  Right.
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  They have a duty to do no harm,
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  right?
• 1:13:02
  Meredith says,
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  wouldn't a concern be for the women who
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  are very early pregnant and they're not
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  ready to announce that yet?
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  Well,
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  it's still covered by HIPAA in the States,
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  right?
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  Like if you are a,
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  if you are a United States citizen and
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  you,
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  nothing medical can be disclosed publicly.
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  I mean, that's against the law.
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  And there is doctor patient
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  confidentiality.
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  You think a doctor would sign off on
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  somebody that they knew was pregnant?
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  Depends on the doctor.
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  It does depend on the doctor.
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  I I'm surprised that they're not doing
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  this for the masters, to be honest,
• 1:13:45
  that'd be the group that I'd be worried
• 1:13:46
  about.
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  Uh,
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  CrossFit says just like the chiropractor
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  that'll prescribe peptides and TRT.
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  You can find them.
• 1:13:53
  Yeah.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah.
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  That's why this is silly.
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  Cause you're,
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  you're just asking people to find ways
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  defending her profession.
• 1:14:03
  Some docs take participation,
• 1:14:04
  sports physicals seriously.
• 1:14:08
  And I agree, there probably are,
• 1:14:10
  there are really good doctors.
• 1:14:12
  And I have found that in my own
• 1:14:13
  journey to get over all this stuff I'm
• 1:14:15
  going through,
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  there are good doctors and there are bad
• 1:14:18
  doctors.
• 1:14:19
  And I hate bad doctors and I love
• 1:14:21
  good doctors.
• 1:14:22
  But the thing is,
• 1:14:23
  is if you have your own doctor that
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  says no,
• 1:14:26
  you will go and find one that will
• 1:14:28
  say yes.
• 1:14:30
  That's the issue here.
• 1:14:32
  If it's the same doctor that's saying no
• 1:14:34
  and it won't matter if that one doctor
• 1:14:36
  is going by the rules and making sure
• 1:14:40
  that athlete is going to be safe.
• 1:14:42
  That athlete will find someone.
• 1:14:45
  If they want to compete at the games,
• 1:14:46
  they're going to find whatever to compete
• 1:14:48
  at the games.
• 1:14:49
  Right.
• 1:14:50
  That's why it's so silly.
• 1:14:52
  Andrew Stem wants to know where he can
• 1:14:53
  find that chiropractor.
• 1:14:54
  Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  um tom of the seven five seven uh
• 1:15:06
  pilots with their faa physicals pilots
• 1:15:09
  know which docs will sign off sign them
• 1:15:11
  off and they all go to them that's
• 1:15:15
  scary as i have a daughter flying in
• 1:15:18
  the air currently thank you for that tom
• 1:15:24
  so i've seen this a lot probably crossfit
• 1:15:26
  minimizing liability yes
• 1:15:29
  It's not going to minimize liability.
• 1:15:32
  No.
• 1:15:32
  If every athlete had to have a physical
• 1:15:35
  the year that Lazar died,
• 1:15:38
  everybody would still be up in arms that
• 1:15:40
  CrossFit didn't do enough,
• 1:15:41
  didn't have enough lifeguards,
• 1:15:42
  didn't have enough safety protocols.
• 1:15:45
  All of that,
• 1:15:45
  those same arguments would still exist.
• 1:15:48
  Yep.
• 1:15:51
  When you go to a physical before you
• 1:15:53
  play high school football and a kid gets
• 1:15:56
  severely injured or dies on the field,
• 1:15:58
  the parents still sue.
• 1:16:09
  Shanna,
• 1:16:10
  I found an eight-year-old athlete with a
• 1:16:11
  mild coartation of the aorta.
• 1:16:18
  I have never heard of that.
• 1:16:22
  but there will be a record of the
• 1:16:23
  doc who says no.
• 1:16:25
  If an event happens,
• 1:16:26
  records will be open for the lawyers.
• 1:16:36
  Yeah, I guess.
• 1:16:37
  I don't know.
• 1:16:43
  Like Adam Banks and his wrist during the
• 1:16:44
  Mighty Ducks.
• 1:16:51
  That's a great movie.
• 1:16:53
  That is a good movie.
• 1:16:54
  I was talking about that in class like
• 1:16:56
  last year and my students had no idea.
• 1:16:58
  And I was like, I'm old now.
• 1:17:01
  Like they didn't even know the Mighty
• 1:17:02
  Ducks movie.
• 1:17:03
  And this was like the hockey team that
• 1:17:05
  I coached too.
• 1:17:06
  And they had never seen it.
• 1:17:07
  And I was so disappointed.
• 1:17:09
  That's sad.
• 1:17:10
  Yeah.
• 1:17:11
  You got to give them homework.
• 1:17:12
  You know what we should do next week
• 1:17:14
  is top sports movies of all time.
• 1:17:18
  It's the off season.
• 1:17:21
  are we going to cover next week five
• 1:17:22
  more withdrawals from wfp other let's do
• 1:17:26
  sports movies or something all right um
• 1:17:32
  meredith says uh shannon i'm sorry i'm
• 1:17:34
  surprised it wasn't discovered younger
• 1:17:35
  yeah
• 1:17:40
  All right.
• 1:17:40
  So that is, um, the,
• 1:17:41
  the funny thing about the,
• 1:17:43
  the medical issue is for people don't know
• 1:17:46
  when the spin put that story out,
• 1:17:48
  the picture he used was of our very
• 1:17:51
  own Carolyn Prevo.
• 1:17:53
  So I don't know if he was trying
• 1:17:54
  to insinuate something that she was the
• 1:17:57
  oldest person at the games last year or,
• 1:18:01
  and that she's been a geriatric test or
• 1:18:04
  something.
• 1:18:06
  Um, I wasn't sure.
• 1:18:07
  I was like, I was like,
• 1:18:08
  why is my picture being used?
• 1:18:10
  Did I have anything wrong medically?
• 1:18:14
  I mean, my rash that was everywhere,
• 1:18:16
  but how long did that take to clear
• 1:18:22
  up?
• 1:18:22
  Like, that's three weeks.
• 1:18:27
  Wow.
• 1:18:29
  Three weeks, I'd say.
• 1:18:31
  So if you had to have medical clearance,
• 1:18:32
  would your doctor clear you to compete?
• 1:18:35
  did go see the medical staff the whole
• 1:18:37
  time it started there like two days before
• 1:18:40
  the event they gave me they were giving
• 1:18:42
  me cream the whole time uh carolyn was
• 1:18:46
  the only games athlete with an
• 1:18:48
  osteoporosis screen oh okay wow but with
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  Jay Burch asks,
• 1:19:51
  would you need clearance to compete in the
• 1:19:52
  Open?
• 1:19:52
  I don't think it's at that stage.
• 1:19:54
  I think it's once you make the games,
• 1:19:56
  you are then required to get the medical
• 1:19:58
  screening.
• 1:20:02
  So.
• 1:20:07
  Shanna says, actually,
• 1:20:08
  CrossFit reversed my osteoporosis.
• 1:20:11
  No need for any screening as long as
• 1:20:12
  I keep doing it.
• 1:20:14
  That's awesome.
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  Amen, sister.
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  That's a video for Instagram.
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  There it is.
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  Get on that, CrossFit HQ.
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  Thank you, Trent Olive.
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  For that, I'll even call you Winter.
• 1:20:34
  John George says, no bulls, I'm off.
• 1:20:40
  I got to ask,
• 1:20:42
  since Noble is no longer affiliated with
• 1:20:44
  CrossFit, Justin had those foot problems.
• 1:20:49
  He gets away from Noble and now he
• 1:20:51
  doesn't have foot problems and he's
• 1:20:52
  competing in running events.
• 1:20:54
  Coincidence?
• 1:20:58
  Probably not.
• 1:21:01
  I've never liked the noble shoes.
• 1:21:02
  I like the look of them.
• 1:21:03
  I think they look cool.
• 1:21:04
  Um, like, you know, simple look, which I,
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  what I like, I love their clothes.
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  I think the noble clothes is very
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  comfortable.
• 1:21:11
  I love the backpacks.
• 1:21:13
  Their shoes were always super hard for me.
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  Like I just,
• 1:21:17
  I didn't find comfort in them.
• 1:21:19
  I'll wear them just casually still,
• 1:21:20
  just cause I have them.
• 1:21:21
  And I like the style or like,
• 1:21:23
  I might like color with an outfit,
• 1:21:24
  but the comfort of them, I didn't,
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  I didn't enjoy.
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  Yeah,
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  their clothes are extremely – they are the
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  softest shirts ever.
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  Yeah.
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  great.
• 1:21:39
  It's expensive,
• 1:21:40
  so that fifty percent might be good.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah.
• 1:21:45
  Shannon now has the bones of a
• 1:21:46
  twenty-year-old.
• 1:21:50
  And then cross fat.
• 1:21:58
  I missed it.
• 1:21:58
  Is that poor twenty-year-old still alive?
• 1:22:07
  So clever.
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  Awesome.
• 1:22:13
  Well, thanks, guys.
• 1:22:13
  Thank you for being here.
• 1:22:14
  We love you all.
• 1:22:16
  It's always a blast every Sunday night.
• 1:22:18
  And we'll be back next Sunday night for...
• 1:22:21
  Sunday, Sunday,
• 1:22:23
  Sunday night CrossFit talk.
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  We will see you all then.
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  Thank you.
• 1:22:28
  Have a great week.
• 1:22:30
  Bye, guys.