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How I Became An Assistant For Hollywood's Biggest Names · Clyde Confidential

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Speaker 1: I want this agency to be as big as Wmecia
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Speaker 1: and UTA. Hi everyone, my name is Megan Grimm and
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Speaker 1: I am the founder and creator of Clyde Staffing and
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Speaker 1: now the Clyde Confidential podcast.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to come on here to formally introduce.
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Speaker 1: Myself to you because most of this audience, who are
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Speaker 1: not my friends and family, are probably thinking, who the
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Speaker 1: hell are you and why are you.
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Speaker 2: Starting a podcast.
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Speaker 1: I am starting a podcast to create a safe space
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Speaker 1: for my clients and their teams to come on and
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Speaker 1: share unfiltered stories, funny tales, advice, but mostly mentorship to
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Speaker 1: anyone who's curious about Hollywood.
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Speaker 2: And the entertainment industry. We are not.
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Speaker 1: Only going to give you guys an inside look into
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Speaker 1: Hollywood and entertainment, but really talk about how to succeed
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Speaker 1: as a young adult after you graduate college, moving to
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Speaker 1: a big city, not knowing what to do.
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Speaker 2: For your first job.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you graduate like me, from the nursing school at
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Speaker 1: Georgetown but end up working in fashion and then as
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Speaker 1: a personal assistant.
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Speaker 2: There is no right path, but.
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Speaker 1: I'm here to give you the best advice I can
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Speaker 1: on how to navigate that path, because it can be
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Speaker 1: really scary.
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Speaker 3: What is Clyde Staffing?
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Speaker 1: I started Clyde in twenty twenty because when I was
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Speaker 1: working as an assistant, a lot of people were asking me,
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Speaker 1: how did you.
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Speaker 2: Get that job? And I'd like, a job like that,
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Speaker 2: and what do you do all day?
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Speaker 1: Is it just dry cleaning and errands? And obviously the
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Speaker 1: answer was no. People didn't understand my job. They didn't
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Speaker 1: know how to access a job like mine, and when
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Speaker 1: I looked around, there wasn't another recruiting agency doing this.
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Speaker 1: All the great jobs were word of mouth, and it
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Speaker 1: was really difficult to break into the entertainment industry. So
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Speaker 1: I wanted to create a central platform where people could
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Speaker 1: go to a find entertainment jobs and b find really
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Speaker 1: great people to work on their teams. How Clyde started
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Speaker 1: and since twenty twenty, we've grown so so much. We're
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Speaker 1: now working with a lot of exciting people in the business,
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Speaker 1: but have now expanded into sports and working in the
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Speaker 1: tech space and with family offices.
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Speaker 2: So it's there's been.
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Speaker 1: You know, some a lot of upward mobility, and our
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Speaker 1: network is just growing and our candidpool is growing and
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Speaker 1: my team is growing, which has been really exciting.
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Speaker 3: How did you break into the entertainment industry.
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Speaker 1: I started off in the nursing school at Georgetown and
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Speaker 1: ended up switching majors to English because.
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Speaker 2: I thought that's what all the girlies.
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Speaker 1: Did, and I had no idea what I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do when I graduated, so I did a bunch of
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Speaker 1: fashion internships, which were unpaid, and I remember my junior
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Speaker 1: year I actually worked at a corporate fashion house during
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Speaker 1: the day and then went to work a retail job
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Speaker 1: at night because I had to live in New York
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Speaker 1: City as an intern, and I just remember it being
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Speaker 1: so such long days and it was not fun, honestly,
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Speaker 1: And at the time I thought I wanted to do fashion.
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Speaker 2: But when I.
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Speaker 1: Graduated my first couple of years in New York, that's
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Speaker 1: sort of when I peeled away from it.
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Speaker 2: But I graduated from Georgetown twenty fourteen landed a job
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Speaker 2: at Ralph Lauren. My team there.
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Speaker 1: Was absolutely amazing. I did celebrity styling there. I was
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Speaker 1: a freelancer and then got hired full time. Kimball Hastings
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Speaker 1: was my first boss ever. My friend's Streeter and my
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Speaker 1: other friend Christina worked on the team with me, and
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Speaker 1: what we did was we styled celebrities for red carpet events.
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Speaker 2: So met Gala and.
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Speaker 1: The Oscars and any random photo shoot or for fashion week,
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Speaker 1: and it was so fun.
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Speaker 2: And I knew right then and there that I wanted.
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Speaker 1: To work in Hollywood because I loved being around talent.
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Speaker 2: I loved the excitement of it all. I loved the chaos.
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Speaker 1: I loved meeting their teams and recognized early on to
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Speaker 1: be on their team you had to be really special
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Speaker 1: because you were in that room with them, and you
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Speaker 1: were one of five people in that room. And I
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Speaker 1: wanted to know where all of those people came from
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Speaker 1: and how they got started.
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Speaker 2: And I told Kimball early.
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Speaker 1: On that I wanted to be a celebrity assistant, and
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Speaker 1: he looked at me.
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Speaker 2: And he said why. He was really confused.
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Speaker 1: Because they think celebrity assistant jobs don't have the best
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Speaker 1: taste in people's mouths, but they are amazing jobs.
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Speaker 2: They are amazing jobs, and I knew I wanted to
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Speaker 2: do it.
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Speaker 1: So I got a job after Ralph Lauren. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to think if Kimball helped me get this job, But
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Speaker 1: my first assistant job after Ralph Lauren was working for
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Speaker 1: Tim Blake Nelson Tim Blake Nelson. He's the bad guy
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Speaker 1: in holes. He's in a ton of the Cohen Brothers films.
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Speaker 1: He is unbelievable. He was such an amazing first boss
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Speaker 1: for me. He lives in New and I was basically
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Speaker 1: his assistant, but also family assistant to his wonderful life
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Speaker 1: wife Lisa and their two boys. And it was the
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Speaker 1: best first assistant job you could have asked for. They
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Speaker 1: were so gracious, I learned so much. I had a
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Speaker 1: great relationship with them. But I think probably three months
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Speaker 1: into that job, Kimball actually called me and he said,
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Speaker 1: Madonna has an opening on her team. There's usually three
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Speaker 1: assistants and then one of the spots.
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Speaker 2: Is open, so you should go. You should go interview.
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Speaker 1: So I interviewed to be her third assistant slash runner,
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Speaker 1: and I was so excited. But I loved working for Tim,
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Speaker 1: so I was a little torn. And I'm not someone
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Speaker 1: to call out sick of work or anything, but I
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Speaker 1: called out sick, went to go for the interview, sat
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Speaker 1: down with Madonna's chief of staff, Chavon, who had been
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Speaker 1: with her at that point for over twenty five years.
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Speaker 1: Got hired on the spot, and I knew my whole
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Speaker 1: world was about to change in the best way. I
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Speaker 1: went into work the following day, back to Tim's house,
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Speaker 1: and I will never forget this. He came in the
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Speaker 1: door and looked at me and said, how.
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Speaker 2: You feeling, Megan? Were you really sick or were you
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Speaker 2: on an interview?
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Speaker 1: And my heart dropped and I turned white, and I
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Speaker 1: got so awkward, and I couldn't bear it because I
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Speaker 1: loved him and his family so much and told him
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Speaker 1: that I had gotten an interview with Madonna, and he
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Speaker 1: looked at me and he said.
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Speaker 2: Damn, I mean god, damn, but I get it. You
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Speaker 2: gotta go take that job.
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Speaker 1: So I finished out my time with him and then
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Speaker 1: went to go work for her and really start.
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Speaker 2: The next step in my career, which was so exciting.
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Speaker 3: How did you become Jennifer Lawrence's assistant?
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Speaker 1: The gen job actually came around two times. So I
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Speaker 1: had just signed an offer letter to go work for
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Speaker 1: a producer who I absolutely adore, Casey Patterson, and someone
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Speaker 1: from CIA had reach out to me saying Jennifer Lawrence
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Speaker 1: needs an assistant, and I remember being.
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Speaker 2: Like fuck, Like, oh my god, I just signed this
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Speaker 2: offer letter. This is my dream job.
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Speaker 1: Oh my God, and I was so bummed, and you
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Speaker 1: know what, working for Casey was unbelievable and it was
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Speaker 1: totally the right move at the time because Casey and
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Speaker 1: I are super close now and I learned so so
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Speaker 1: much in that job and actually made a really good
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Speaker 1: best friend out of it. So no regrets, and it's
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Speaker 1: a happy ending, obviously, because the job came back around eventually.
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Speaker 1: The following summer, I was I remember I was out
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Speaker 1: in mon talk with my girlfriends in the sharehouse that
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Speaker 1: I planned every summer, and I don't know why. I
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Speaker 1: was sitting in the backyard on LinkedIn and I got
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Speaker 1: a message from someone named Kate who said, Hey, I.
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Speaker 2: Have a great job for you, let's chat.
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Speaker 1: Kate was a freelance recruiter who I owe my life to, honestly,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know how she got in touch with
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Speaker 1: Jen's team, but she called me the next day.
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Speaker 2: We hopped on the phone.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know who the actress was, but I knew
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Speaker 1: it was someone really important because they don't usually tell
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Speaker 1: the name or disclose the name of the client if
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Speaker 1: it someone really important, so I knew that it.
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Speaker 2: Was serious and I went to interview with Jen. I
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Speaker 2: think a couple days later.
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Speaker 1: It all happened really really fast, and we sat down
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Speaker 1: at her apartment up town and we just really clicked.
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Speaker 1: And a funny story about my interview, which I will
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Speaker 1: never never forget, is that one of the questions I
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Speaker 1: asked Jen during the interview was do you have other staff?
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Speaker 1: And she said, well, I have this housekeeper named I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna not say the name for privacy reasons.
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Speaker 2: And I said, that's so odd.
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Speaker 1: I know someone with that name, and it's a type
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Speaker 1: of name that is not common at all. And in
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Speaker 1: my head, I'm thinking, there's no way in hell that
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Speaker 1: this is the same housekeeper that I know from my
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Speaker 1: job with Casey Patterson. Casey's housekeeper left very suddenly and
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Speaker 1: got this big, cool job and didn't tell any of
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Speaker 1: us where she went to go work, and I had
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Speaker 1: always wondered she was amazing.
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Speaker 2: We had a great relationship. So Jen, in the middle.
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Speaker 1: Of our interview, calls, you know, kind of says, hey,
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Speaker 1: can you come here for a sec And the housekeeper
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Speaker 1: walks into the living room where we're sitting, and.
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Speaker 2: It's Casey's old housekeeper. We both start freaking out. I
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Speaker 2: jump up. I give her a huge hug. That sealed
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Speaker 2: the deal.
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Speaker 1: For me, and it actually displayed something really important. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Megan knows how to work on a team. They have
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Speaker 1: a good relationship, and obviously this person thinks really highly
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Speaker 1: of her, and I think, again, I think that that's
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Speaker 1: thealed the deal.
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Speaker 2: Obviously I was qualified and we got along. But don't
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I always think back to that moment of Okay, we
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Speaker 1: kind to everyone around you. Every single person who you're
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Speaker 1: working with, be kind. You never know what's going to
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Speaker 1: happen or if it's if you're going to see them
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Speaker 1: later in life, and they could be working for the
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Speaker 1: person who you want a job with.
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Speaker 3: What made you a great assistant?
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Speaker 1: I think what made me a great assistant is I
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Speaker 1: have to give some credit to the days that I
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Speaker 1: was in high school and growing up being a babysitter.
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Speaker 1: I babysat and nannied my entire high school and college life,
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Speaker 1: and I knew from an early age what it was
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Speaker 1: like to integrate into someone's family and to be in
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Speaker 1: someone else's intimate space and be around someone's kids.
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Speaker 2: And if the.
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Speaker 1: Parents are in the kitchen having a conversation, I'm not
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Speaker 1: in the kitchen I'm in the living room and I'm
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Speaker 1: being visible, but being invisible and really just understanding that
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Speaker 1: someone else's home is their sacred space, and I'm there
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Speaker 1: and I'm being respectful. And if there's a d in
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Speaker 1: the sink and the parents are super busy, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to put the dish in the dishwasher and roll up
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Speaker 1: my sleeves and do stuff that most people don't want
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Speaker 1: to do, but I'm going to do it with a
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Speaker 1: smile at my face. And that's I think those skills
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Speaker 1: were so foundational for me and really shaped me. I
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Speaker 1: was a girl at Georgetown who was driving around with
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Speaker 1: six kids in the minivan babysitting, and I often had
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Speaker 1: to miss social outings on the weekends because I had
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Speaker 1: to make money.
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Speaker 2: I am the oldest of five.
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Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with money, and I remember in
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Speaker 1: college I would have seventy five dollars in my bank account,
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Speaker 1: and I wanted to go out to dinner and hang
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Speaker 1: out with my friends and do things, and I couldn't
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Speaker 1: do those things unless I had a babysitting job. I
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Speaker 1: also worked at a retail store in Georgetown on top
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Speaker 1: of babysitting, just to do it.
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Speaker 2: I was I was always.
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Speaker 1: Working, and working in retail also taught me how to
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Speaker 1: deal with people and different personalities and people who would
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Speaker 1: come into the store with tons of money and they
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Speaker 1: were super rude, and still trying to give them the
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Speaker 1: best customer service experience although they were being super rude
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Speaker 1: and just having thick skin and learning how to deal
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Speaker 1: with people. So I really started to develop those skills young.
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Speaker 1: And I think everyone who is trying to work in
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Speaker 1: a service industry or entertainment or fashion or events or
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Speaker 1: pr should go learn how to deal with people in
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Speaker 1: a restaurant or a store. I think it's really good training.
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Speaker 3: Kimp, How did you come up with the idea for.
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Speaker 1: Clyde during the pandemic, I was very sick. I came
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Speaker 1: down with season one, episode one of COVID, and the
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Speaker 1: whole world.
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Speaker 2: Was shut down.
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Speaker 1: The entertainment industry was certainly shut down, and I was
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Speaker 1: actually living in a hotel in West Hollywood while I
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Speaker 1: had COVID because we went to La on a work
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Speaker 1: trip and then boom, the world shut down, and of
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Speaker 1: course with my immune system, I get.
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Speaker 2: COVID and I got rocked and.
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Speaker 1: I was isolated for sixty days. Thank god, I had
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Speaker 1: my French bulldog with me because I would have lost
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Speaker 1: my mind properly.
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Speaker 2: But I was bored and work was.
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Speaker 1: Really slow, and on the weekends in my free time,
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Speaker 1: I had no choice but to put my energy somewhere
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Speaker 1: that would distract me from what was going on. Everyone
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Speaker 1: was in their little COVID pods, drinking wine, playing games,
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Speaker 1: and I was alone. I had always had the idea
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Speaker 1: to start Clyde, but it was in that hotel room
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Speaker 1: that I really put pen to paper and thought about
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Speaker 1: it and sat down, and I think had the pandemic
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Speaker 1: not happened, I probably wouldn't have had the time to really.
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Speaker 2: Put things in motion. And that is when I started
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Speaker 2: the company.
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Speaker 1: I made a website, I laid out all of my ideas,
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Speaker 1: came up with the name Clyde, which is a knock
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Speaker 1: on Bonnie and Clyde little sidekick reference.
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Speaker 2: And I had been doing a couple.
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Speaker 1: Placements here and there, but it was only it was
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Speaker 1: not until I think maybe a year later, when Jen
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Speaker 1: and I were filming Don't Look Up in Boston. We
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Speaker 1: were watching a movie together and I turned to her
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Speaker 1: before the movie started and I said, Hey, I just
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Speaker 1: would like to get your blessing on something. I have
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Speaker 1: this idea to start this company. It's a side hustle,
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Speaker 1: but here's my idea. And she looked at me and
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Speaker 1: she said, that is the smartest thing I've heard since Uber.
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Speaker 2: Please do it.
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Speaker 1: You have my full support, and I'm so excited for you.
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Speaker 1: She was my biggest cheerleader actually, and helped me put
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Speaker 1: me in touch with all these people who helped me.
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Speaker 2: Just get things in order.
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Speaker 1: And when I launched the company officially, she sent out
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Speaker 1: an email to all of her people just saying, my
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Speaker 1: assistant is now doing this and please support her and
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Speaker 1: if you need an assistant, contact Megan. So it was
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Speaker 1: really awesome the way she showed up for me, and
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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that.
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Speaker 2: It was really cool. Jen's the best.
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Speaker 3: What challenges have you faced as a founder?
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Speaker 1: Early on, even though it was my idea, I did
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Speaker 1: approach another assistant actually and I said, would you like
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Speaker 1: to be my partner in this?
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Speaker 2: And at the time she was.
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Speaker 1: Amazing, and I really thought that I needed a partner
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Speaker 1: and someone who could be in it with me in
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Speaker 1: that way. But as the company launched, we realized that
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Speaker 1: we were both kind of we had different visions for
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Speaker 1: the company, and she told me that she wanted to
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Speaker 1: be an actor, and that's okay.
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Speaker 2: She went and she did that.
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Speaker 1: And I think what I needed at the time was
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Speaker 1: not a business partner, but a team below me. And
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Speaker 1: I needed a team below me, and that was going
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Speaker 1: to be even more difficult to fill because.
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Speaker 2: When you have a team.
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Speaker 1: I think hiring, ironically, for me, has been the hardest
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Speaker 1: part of my job running a recruiting agency, hiring people
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Speaker 1: who you have in your home, and because I don't
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Speaker 1: have an office, hiring people who were as passionate about
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Speaker 1: your baby, which is my company as you are, maybe
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Speaker 1: smarter than you. People who were going to be there
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Speaker 1: alongside you during the ups and downs of a startup,
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Speaker 1: and people who are going to sign up to work
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Speaker 1: together with you, not knowing what the next couple months
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Speaker 1: are going to look like. They might be a little chaotic.
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Speaker 1: Certainly now they're chaotic. I've been in a really good way.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Grace. Grace started as my intern, and
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Speaker 1: she was my assistant intern while she was still in
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Speaker 1: college and now she's a talent coordinator for Clyde. But
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Speaker 1: Grace has been in it with me the whole time.
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Speaker 1: I've had this company, and I found her through the
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Speaker 1: Chapman Career Center, and I knew having her as my intern,
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Speaker 1: I knew that I was going to give her a
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Speaker 1: job when she graduated. She was so damn good. And
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Speaker 1: then Emily, who is with us now? Who's my new assistant?
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Speaker 1: She came through the doors at my fire relief project
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Speaker 1: in LA and she was the first one in last
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Speaker 1: one to leave during that relief project, and I knew
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Speaker 1: that I needed her on my team too.
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Speaker 3: Who is your dream podcast guest?
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Speaker 1: Jason Weinberg? I need you on my podcast. Jason Weinberg
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Speaker 1: inspires me every day to do this job. He is
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Speaker 1: the ultimate connector. Everywhere I go, I'm getting oh, oh,
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Speaker 1: you know Jason Weinberg or Jason. Everywhere I go with
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Speaker 1: him is introducing me to someone and helping me shake
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Speaker 1: a hand. And he's the first one to say hi
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Speaker 1: or bring you into a conversation and make you feel welcome.
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Speaker 1: He also sends me half of his clients because he
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Speaker 1: trusts me that I will trust that I will deliver
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Speaker 1: the best possible assistant to them. And having his trust
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Speaker 1: means a world. And I don't think Jason's ever been
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Speaker 1: on a podcast, But I look up to him so much.
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Speaker 2: He's my hero, he's my mentor. I owe him my life.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, he really has introduced me to the best people
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Speaker 1: and watching him at a party, people in the industry
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Speaker 1: actually call it the Weinberg effect. The way that this
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Speaker 1: man works a room is impeccable. It's so awesome to
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Speaker 1: watch and I hope that if I grow up to
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Speaker 1: be the female Jason Weinberg, I would be so lucky
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Speaker 1: to follow in his footsteps. He is the best relationships.
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Speaker 1: He sometimes is in three places in one day. Know
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Speaker 1: how he does it, but he gives everything to his
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Speaker 1: clients and it's because he has amazing relationships.
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Speaker 2: Jason, please come on the pod.
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Speaker 3: What are your career goals?
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Speaker 1: I want this agency to be as big as wm
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Speaker 1: CIA and UTA. I want this agency to do it
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Speaker 1: all want. I want to go to the top.
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Speaker 2: I want to go to the moon.
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Speaker 1: I want to have more people that I love around
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Speaker 1: me working with me. I want to inspire the career
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Speaker 1: assistant journey. I want to continue to give people opportunity
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Speaker 1: and just really nail down a placement. It is the
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Speaker 1: best feeling in the world when you give someone an
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Speaker 1: amazing opportunity because I will never forget when I got
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Speaker 1: my job with Jen, I started sobbing. I was so happy,
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Speaker 1: and it really did change my life and inspired me
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Speaker 1: to do all these things. Same with Casey and Madonna.
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Speaker 1: I have had the privilege of working with amazing women
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Speaker 1: and meeting their families and spending time with them, and
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Speaker 1: leave all those jobs I knew, Okay, I want them
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Speaker 1: to have the best people around them at all times.
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Speaker 1: I need to start something that's going to make a
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Speaker 1: huge difference, And it's really just about creating a platform
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Speaker 1: that didn't exist before and creating a network built on
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Speaker 1: relationships so inspiring those types of conversations. With this podcast,
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Speaker 1: I never thought I'd find myself in this space.
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Speaker 2: But when I think.
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Speaker 1: About the people I work with and the people who
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Speaker 1: trust me, I could get some pretty cool people on
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Speaker 1: this couch. So I'm excited about that. I'm excited to
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Speaker 1: just keep talking. And the best part about my job
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Speaker 1: is that I get to meet new people every day
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Speaker 1: and talk.
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Speaker 2: I love to chat.
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Speaker 3: What is your advice to young people at the start
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Speaker 3: of their careers.
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Speaker 1: The advice I would give is to be a yes person.
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Speaker 1: I went to a dinner last ball in LA and
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Speaker 1: it was a female female founder dinner.
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Speaker 2: I was so tired. It was a Monday, I really
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Speaker 2: didn't want to go.
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Speaker 1: And I went to this dinner and I got seated
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Speaker 1: next to someone named ty Stickloris Tie has become.
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Speaker 2: Without me even asking another mentor to.
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Speaker 1: Me, and I gave two of her client's assistants.
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Speaker 2: Her and I are working.
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Speaker 1: On a ton of philanthropy stuff together and I really
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Speaker 1: look up to her. I think it's rare to come
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Speaker 1: across a female in the entertainment industry who is going
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Speaker 1: to reach out and say I've got you.
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Speaker 2: And she is just such a boss.
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Speaker 1: She's kind, she's a powerhouse, and she also surrounds herself
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Speaker 1: with such amazing people and has built a really cool company.
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Speaker 2: And I just love where her heart is.
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Speaker 1: So I think, be a yes person if you're a founder,
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Speaker 1: go to everything you're invited to, go, shake a hand,
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Speaker 1: have a business card, network and connect in an exchange.
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Speaker 1: Just connect people and do things work with your heart.
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Speaker 2: Be kind,