Latest / Petty and Unbothered / #24 - Petty OlymPICKS
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- Robin Axline: Welcome. Thanks for tuning in. Tita Lors: Oh, welcome. You like how I wasn't coughing at all during all of that break and all of a sudden now I am? Robin Axline: yeah, that is crazy. I hope the soup... This is off air talk, we were talking about soup and ginger being good for yeah, coughing and things. So I hope those things kick in, Lora Who knows? Yes, so welcome, welcome, welcome. Hope y'all are doing well. Thanks for tuning in. And besides the cough, how are you doing, Lora? Tita Lors: if I were to pick like a feeling word. It would be content. Well, also the girls have been sleeping in our bed. So I don't think I'm getting like a full night's rest. I like really sleeping well because one of them moves a lot. Yeah, like they're just I don't know, whatever. so I finally cleaned up their rooms and, and I had them back in their beds. So hopefully I start getting like a full, like better sleep. am noticing that. I'm not usually I know immediately when not even when they're inside our room, but like when they open their door and come into our room. But I woke up with a kid in my bed and I was like, when did you get here? Where did you come from? Robin Axline: Hopefully it was a kid that you knew. Who are you? The neighbors? Tita Lors: god, could you imagine? Yeah, it's funny too because I thought it was one kid and I, because usually the little one, she tucks herself underneath my body and she's always really, really close to me. But when I woke up, there was just a body there and I was like, okay, so that must be the bigger one. And then I, when I woke up, woke up, cause I, was like groggy, woke up, saw her, went back to sleep. When I woke up, woke up, it was a little one. I was like, did you guys switch? What happened? I'm so confused. Robin Axline: Whoa, magic tricks. Tita Lors: Yeah. So it could have been the stranger. Like that would have scared the ever living, but Jesus out of me. Oh my, yeah. I would have like jumped out of bed. Like, Oh my God, I need to go check on my children. Robin Axline: yeah, check the children. Tita Lors: Yeah, that just unlocked, do you remember? Those like, are they? Those like stories? my God, I forgot what they're called. Okay, so the story is, there's this girl, she's in her room and she's just kind of chilling, hanging out. Maybe she's in college, whatever, blah, blah. Robin Axline: Huh? Tita Lors: Yeah, do you remember that? It's called a what is it called? There's like a specific thing that this thing is called. It's like a story. Yes, it's an urban legend. There we go. Robin Axline: dang. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: I don't know of that one. Tita Lors: my god, yeah, so the story is like there was somebody hiding underneath her bed or whatever. Yeah, scared the crap out of me. I don't let my hand hang off the bed anymore. You're welcome! Robin Axline: Thanks a lot, Lora. Now I'm gonna be thinking about that when I sleep. As if my sleep isn't poor enough. God. Tita Lors: Just don't let your head fall off the bed. That's what that made me think of for some reason. I Robin Axline: Okay, alright. Just in case. Humans can look too. Tita Lors: know. Crazy. Okay, sorry. Robin Axline: No. Tita Lors: Let's return from that tangent. Robin Axline: I love it. so... Yeah. yeah, so... I've been trying to... Yeah. Tita Lors: How are you? I didn't ask you how you are. Robin Axline: Yeah, I've been trying to, up my sleep hygiene myself, speaking of sleep. like putting my phone across the... Not totally across the room, but like away from me, out of reach. And... I'm like literally just throwing things and see what sticks but I think it's I feel good about trying to improve my sleep and just kind of see what's up so No, absolutely. Yeah. I'll let you know. So yeah, that's kind of how I'm doing right now. Just a similar sleep thing. But yeah, I decided to kind of throw some of our format out the window today just to kind of like jazz it up in case anybody wants to just listen to a breezy and not so breezy episode. might get a little deep, we might not. So yeah, otherwise I'm doing pretty well. But yeah, so this episode today is absolutely, I would say, nothing that needs to exist, but I felt like... it was like somehow extremely necessary. I'm gonna call it the petty Olympics. And our so our scoring system you and I is not gonna be like, it's like the points don't matter, but it's gonna be more like emotional. Tita Lors: Do they ever? Robin Axline: Exactly. Do they ever? Not so much. But that's okay, because that's our our measuring stick. So This is going be like, yes, our, our vibes or emotions to the, excuse me, medals and awards. And so with that being said, welcome to the Petty Olympics. yeah, we're gonna break down all the pettiness that you didn't know needed to be ranked. I love that harp glissando. Yeah, we should totally do that. Get some raw eggs and put a sweatband on or something and run up the stairs. Tita Lors: Ew. Gross. I'll put a sweatband on and run up the stairs. I will not eat raw eggs. Robin Axline: Yeah, I take that back. I don't want to do that either. Tita Lors: I don't like your vegetarian. What are you talking about? Robin Axline: You know, hardly eat eggs, period. So yes, this is going to be an international competition and nobody signed up for this. Nobody agreed to participate. But everyone is actively competing at all times. And so that's just the way of pettiness, in my opinion. There are no rules, no judges, and somehow everybody is keeping score. And I think that's the part that gets me because we don't usually think of our lives as competitive, but then when you really look at it, we're constantly participating in invisible events. Yeah, no, totally. And some examples would be like text response timing, eye contact avoidance in public spaces, and how long you can act unbothered while actually being extremely bothered. It's like emotional sports, I guess. And since it's summer, I just felt like this was especially right because somebody somewhere remembers that sports exists. It's like, I don't know what it is, but you know, the parks all of sudden, everybody's interested in softball and kickball and I see it all. Tita Lors: Because we outside this summer. Oh, and that totally reminds me. Robin Axline: It's an outside kind of summer. Tita Lors: Somebody sent me, either somebody sent it or just showed up on my feed. Oh, someone for sure sent it to me that, you know, last year was like rat girl summer or whatever. It's do. Robin Axline: Yeah, or the year before, but yes. Tita Lors: Yeah. So this year is divorcee hot divorcee summer. Mm hmm. Robin Axline: hot divorces. Tita Lors: hot divorcee summer. And you don't, you don't Robin Axline: What does that entail? Or do you know? Tita Lors: have to be divorced, but it's just, it's just being outside and just ready to not give an F about other people and just doing whatever. Cause once I guess, yeah, there's like a, it's an energy about it. just go, you outside again, you're getting yourself back. getting your So hot divorcee summer. Same. Robin Axline: I like that. Okay, sight me up. I'm about it. I'm listening. Tita Lors: There we go. We're not getting divorces, Robin Axline: Huh, that's pretty funny. Tita Lors: but we're gonna for sure have that energy. Drinks! Robin Axline: And that sounds like a great summer. I know Brat summer lasted for like two summers, I want to say. And now Charlie is saying rock music is... I think that's an ironic thing on her end, but I'm here for it. I'm listening to all of her new tracks in music videos. So... Anyway, back to the show. No, no, Oh, Tita Lors: Man, okay, sorry. Robin Axline: shoot. I would say though the one that I get really hyped up about is soccer and sometimes it's hard to find on my TV certain games so I do have to like seek out bars to see certain games. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. Even though there's like, I don't want to get into it. It's evil and corporate and unfair and man, I could talk for hours about that. But Mondami started a lottery for New York residents. You can win a chance to buy $50 tickets. Yeah, for a World Cup game. So I needless to say, I'm gonna put my hat in the ring. fingers crossed. Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: and it's next year. Robin Axline: That kind of reminds me of, well, I mean, Olympics are a little bit different, but because you know it's going to be sports. But I was going to say like Coachella, how people buy the tickets and they don't know who's even playing. Yeah, I mean, I think eventually you do, but some people just blindly sign like, it's going to be epic. I'm going to do it. But I do want to go to stagecoach sometime. I did watch some of it this year. Yeah, I'm about it. I've been to Coachella. I got to do stagecoach, so. Tita Lors: Let's go. Let's go. I love it. I love going. I've never done Coachella. I mean, yeah, I've never done Coachella. I feel I do stagecoach mostly what I like. I do like country music, but also it's a lot chiller. I feel like there's less. Robin Axline: Gotcha. I- yeah, I think that's- I could see that, but I also feel like some of that is blown out of proportion because of social media. people do dress, wear outfits, but not everybody. It's a mixed bag. Tita Lors: Yeah, I guess most people know though, but I believe you. do. Sorry, go ahead. Robin Axline: Yeah. And no, no, no. I was just going to say like, it does help to have like nicer tickets too. Tita Lors: Humble brag. Robin Axline: No, I, I dabbled in both and they're, they're okay, but definitely you get a nicer area if you can. Yeah, I'm about it. That'd be cool. I'm into it. Sight unseen lineup. I'm already there. Speaking of which... Tita Lors: I know. Let's just buy it. I'm sure it'll be good. Robin Axline: Okay, so back to sports. yeah, so there's this general energy I feel around this time of year when everyone's like, let's pretend that we like sports. Let's pretend we understand competition again or some. Anyway, I thought we should honor the only sport that I personally participate in consistently, which is a pettiness, the petty Olympics, that is. And, Tita Lors: No one believes that Robin, everyone knows that you're the kindest sweetest person. No one believes Robin Axline: you Tita Lors: that you're out here being petty AF left and right. Robin Axline: Catch me outside, I might be. Tita Lors: I've seen you outside, you're not. Robin Axline: Ha ha ha ha. Tita Lors: for the sake of argument. Robin Axline: Yes, let's just go with it. Tita Lors: Hahaha Robin Axline: Petty's can be a sport that I sometimes do. Tita Lors: You Robin Axline: So I'm going to play a little song to get into it. This is what runs in my head like rent free. Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: I'm just being, honest. That literally plays in my head when anybody says sports. You Just a little peek into my mind. Tita Lors: And now it will be what plays in my head. Robin Axline: Yeah, it was from an episode of Clarissa Explains and All. So, it's been in my head for very long time. Yes, the sports are really special. Tita Lors: she says unironically, or perhaps Robin Axline: You Tita Lors: very ironically. Robin Axline: really special. Tita Lors: Ian, shut the fuck up! Just kidding. Robin Axline: I know. the fuck is going on? Weird. Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: I don't know what that was about. It's like peaking. Hello. Tita Lors: I know I was like is that your is that your chair what's happening Robin Axline: So, yes, in the world of sports, petty can be a sport for sure. And that's the inspiration for the Petty Olympics that I came up with. And so I came out with a few different categories. First off, I want to say that the different categories are gonna be awarded silver, gold, and bronze. And they are just examples of what falls under the umbrella of, well, let me tell you, the main stage categories are the silent treatment sprint. group chat relay race and receipt analysis championship. And I've already pre found out from the judges of course which medal they received. Tita Lors: you Hmm. Robin Axline: But Tita Lors: So more like they're the nominations. Like these are these are the categories that are like, I spilled tea all over myself. That they're like that we're putting it up, putting up for like the race, so to speak. OK, Robin Axline: Yes. And Tita Lors: OK. Robin Axline: like I mentioned, I got a little sneak peek from the judges about what they want to award. Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: And I think you and I are plenty of discernment to change if we want to. So these categories have all received a gold medal in emotional endurance. And just to be clear, Yeah, the whole chunk, the main event all got gold, which is wild in the Olympics, but it's our Olympics. Mm-hmm. And everybody participates in the petty Olympics all over the world and they don't even know it. Tita Lors: Whether they want to or not. Robin Axline: Yeah, it's happening every day, but this is a special competition that just comes every once in a while. Maybe a reoccurring thing, who knows. So the first up in the petty culture is Silent Treatment Sprint. Now this is an elite level discipline. Who can act the most unbothered while being absolutely the most bothered? This includes delayed responses as emotional strategy, reading a message and not replying for impact timing. Seen being used as a psychological weapon. Rereading texts like their evidence in court. And... The people that do this intentionally pretend that this is accidental, but it's not. And there's intention in that silence, even if the intention is just, want you to feel something. It's silent but deadly. fair. That should definitely be up there. What were they thinking with these nominations? Sssss We'll put that on there as well. So the next category that I got a little tea on is the group chat relay race. Now this category is where communication becomes a team sport nobody agreed to play. You have these are the examples instant responders emoji emoji only participants People who disappear for days and then return like nothing happened. And people who read everything but contribute nothing. The lurkers. Tita Lors: Lurkers. Robin Axline: Yep. And then I would say the worst one is the person who is technically in the group chat but not in the conversation anymore. At all. And that one hits different. Because you can't prove it. It's just like you feel like they're not. Mm-hmm. Like, I mean, you think you get this feeling like, well, I haven't been directly addressed by this person in like four different threads. Interesting. Like, I think that is... I feel like sometimes I do that a little bit in a group chat where everybody's talking to each other and I just feel like, hmm, what's going on? Like, am I in this chat or am I not in this chat? Right. Yeah. And then you tend to think like, is this intentional or not? And maybe it is like everybody else has like a separate chat and then they're like, let's just phase this person out. Let's say that they're doing that on purpose. Tita Lors: That sounds funny. Yeah. Robin Axline: Yeah that sounds pretty pretty betty. So that gets a gold star. Moving on. Tita Lors: Yeah. And also, I just want to say what you're talking about for people who are listening, it's not like I'm sitting here and I'm like, but I'm like that sometimes. And you just said like, I'm like that, too. Right. So this isn't for Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: people who are just like, it's happening to by accident or they're doing it by accident. We're talking about the people who do these things on purpose, who are like trying to get a response from people who are. crying to hurt people. Or there's like a negative intention. Like obviously, things happen by accident and on purpose, right? Like I myself will accidentally open up my chat and never respond to anyone, even though I read it and be like, I should really respond to that or I'll respond to my head. And then and then it's like a month later and I'm like, why haven't they talked to me? I realize it's my fault and I'm the horrible person. Right? Like we're not talking, we're obviously not talking about you. We're talking about the people. Robin Axline: No, no, no, we're not talking about you. Tita Lors: Yeah, we're talking about the people who are like with malicious intent, like the people and either, you know, don't want to say by accident or on purpose, but it's usually on purpose, are trying to get something from someone or be malicious in some way or hurt you. Not if you're thinking, are they talking about me? Probably not. Robin Axline: not but maybe we are yeah this is this is literally the fun and games so yeah yeah for sure Tita Lors: And also, we're just being funny. Yeah, for shiggles. It's for shiggles, people. Robin Axline: this is an award show it might be an annual award show we'll see there's a lot a lot that could win i'll some stories for sure you too so the Thing I was gonna say that came up in my mind too is what point does ignoring a text stop being avoid- like what- when you ignore text and you're doing it as avoidance and you're doing it so long that it just becomes communication like you're communicating something to someone without saying it like I don't want to talk to you, get the picture, without saying words, but it's your action. I think that deserves a special petty star too. If you're doing that. Tita Lors: What is that, petty Robin Axline: That's true. Well, it could be over something petty. Like they were supposed to water your plants when you're out of town and then they didn't do a very good job. Tita Lors: Sounds personal. Robin Axline: You didn't give him the special plant food that I requested. Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: So I'm gonna make you suffer and not text you back. I don't know. Tita Lors: funny. Robin Axline: Oh, yes. And I see here that the Next one, the receipt analysis. Let me see. Let me see. Oh, yes. We are talking punctuation interpretation, emoji decoding, tone analysis, and As an example, wanted to say that there is a difference between okay, okay period, okay exclamation mark exclamation mark, and okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. And everybody kind of knows how to read those tones. That's why I'm just bringing up okay as something simple. Tita Lors: So you're talking as just side commentary. sounds like you're talking primarily about texting and doing things on like the phone. But what about in person, like face to face kind of analysis, like there's no actual receipts for it, but in your brain there is like, you, you know, like there's different ways, because in the same way where punctuation is different, it's also in how you say it too, right? And how, and the reason why it matters is because we're interpreting it, we're not actually hearing person making up what they're saying. Just like I tell my clients there's a different there's a lot of different ways to say hello. I actually say bitch but we're gonna say hello. Yeah. Because we talk about the different kinds of communication and how we actually communicate, And I forget what the exact statistic is. I think it's like 70 % or something. 70 % of communication, let's just go with it. I could be lying, probably I am, is actually body language. It's not what you're saying. It's how you're saying it. And I think that's where we get so tripped up in text messages because we don't actually know how they're saying it and we're interpreting it just like the key and peel skit, right? And then how like that gets so confusing. Like, just like you said with okay, you can say, we're just gonna, fine, I'll say, I want to say bitch, but it's gonna be hello. So, right? Okay. So we can say hello. And it's just, hello. There's nothing more there. It's very plain, right? And then, hello? Hello? Hello? Robin Axline: yeah, hello? Right. Tita Lors: Yeah, so there's so many different ways to say hello and it means something different each way you say it. And it's the same thing for goodbye too, right? There's like, bye, goodbye. Exactly. Right. So the punctuation, we're interpreting it into the thing and we're not hearing people. that's why like receipt analysis is so dangerous and can be so dangerously petty too, because we're putting meaning to the words. We're not, we're, and the emojis help us to understand the emotions behind it. But if there's no emojis, if there's punctuation, Robin Axline: Totally. Yeah, boy, could be both ways. Like, the person is looking at the emoji and they're like, eggplant? What is this? No, it's Tita Lors: Hahaha Robin Axline: just kidding. Tita Lors: you It could be like, okay, thumbs up, right? And one person could be being like, okay, sure. Yeah, that like works for me. And then somebody else is gonna see that and they're gonna say, okay, thumbs up and be like, okay, I guess you don't care. Yeah. Like, why are Robin Axline: That was... Right, yeah. So it's... Tita Lors: you being so passive aggressive or whatever about it? Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then the sender could be being passive-aggressive. Also, that's... it's... phew. Tita Lors: Yeah, but you're just reading it at face value. Robin Axline: Yeah, yeah. Tita Lors: This is why you don't have arguments via text message. You have important conversations in person or over the phone. Communication is about more than just your words. It's about how you say it with your face, with your body, and your tone. Robin Axline: Yeah, no, totally. I feel like there's a miss happening in our monoculture right now with the body language element of it because a lot of things are over text or... emails and you miss that nuance a lot of the time. Especially through, for example, dating apps. Like you don't know what somebody's really feeling or what they're actually like sometimes because of that. It's definitely a miss. Tita Lors: for sure. And that's why I think this one is like, again, very dangerous because you're keeping receipts of what people are saying, but you don't have like the intonations and you're making shit up potentially. could be you could Robin Axline: Mm-hmm Tita Lors: be very right. Like I can hear in my brain, like people who I talk to on the phone a lot of people that I see in person and talk to a lot like you probably when you text me, I hear in my brain your voice saying what you're saying. Robin Axline: Same with you. Same with you. Tita Lors: Yeah, because I'm so used to and I'm so accustomed to your inflections and how you typically say things. But I'm like, it's almost as if you're saying it out loud in my head, but I could be getting it wrong. I talk to you so often, I doubt that I. Robin Axline: Yeah, I hope you're thinking it's actually me. But yeah, that's a really good point Tita Lors: Yeah, I'm like, she's not usually an ass. Robin Axline: though, because when there's people I don't talk to IRL that much, then that's when my head starts spinning around a little bit. So yeah, I think that one definitely deserves the gold medal, I would say. Tita Lors: Yeah, I think it's super sneaky. Robin Axline: Yeah, totally. Tita Lors: Yeah, if I was on the judging panel, I think that I would have gone, which one would I do as the pettiest thing? Okay, my awarding of these would have been bronze would be the group chat relay or was it group Robin Axline: Mm-hmm. Tita Lors: chat relay? Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: Silver would be the receipt analysis. Because you got way too much time on your hands if you're trying to do that. Like, please, get over yourself. Move on with your life. Robin Axline: Yeah, that's fair. Tita Lors: And then gold is the silent treatment only because for those of us who grew up in passive aggressive households, you know how that makes you feel. You understand the fear and pain of that. Robin Axline: It's not good. Yeah. Tita Lors: the worst yeah and how it sets your nervous system on fire so I would say that's how if I was on the panel that's how I would have judged that Robin Axline: Yeah, you hear that judges? If we were on that, that's, that's my order as well. So right on the money. And then we're going to move on to silver. First of all, yes. the silver medal goes to public space standoff. Tita Lors: Interesting. Robin Axline: It's a subcategory, would say, of like social coordination. And by that I mean sidewalks, elevators, doorways, grocery aisles. Yes. Tita Lors: like me and the Karen in the parking lot. Robin Axline: You know, when I was, when I was getting this together, when I was getting the results from the judges, I immediately thought of your Karen story. I totally did. social coordination vibe. I- that's so funny. I did think about that story. But yes, this is the sport of I will not move first because I refuse to be rude. which is really exactly your story. Tita Lors: You I'm so mad I lost that battle. Robin Axline: Brutal. Brutal. Yeah. I just would have liked to know how, like, if it would have gone until the next day or... Tita Lors: Mm-hmm. Like, how long was she willing to keep this up? If I didn't have a sick kid at home, like, how long would we have been here? Robin Axline: would have been on. Right? Hey, you had to do your thing. But yes, so this sport is, say two people approach each other, and they do like a polite shuffle. And both of them refuse to commit. So it's like a silent negotiation that neither of you agreed to. But Yeah, that's true. People will do that. People do be checking. I don't like that, especially when I have a bag and somebody hits my bag. Tita Lors: hated that in high school with like the backpacks and things, because then people, if you tried to say something, you're like, hello, you know, that's all what you got a problem. Yes, BZU, obviously like move. What is your problem? Why do you have to hit me with your stupid ass backpack? Also, you have a locker. Why do you have so many books inside your backpack? Robin Axline: well... that me. I... I... Tita Lors: Was that you? Did you have a locker though? Robin Axline: well... I, if you want to hear my locker story I'll tell you. So Tita Lors: Yes. Robin Axline: I carried all my books around all day long and my shoulders hurt and my back hurt. But mainly because I was given a locker that was way on the other side of campus. It wasn't near any of my classes. And it had a bunch of sand in it. The bottom was just like full of sand. it was gross and I didn't want to put my books in there because they might get ruined but I also just like like why would I go all the way to Timbuktu to get my books yeah Tita Lors: I just high fived myself. Robin Axline: Ha! I high-five myself sometimes. great minds. yes, I'll- yes. Tita Lors: Yeah, seriously. So. Robin Axline: So I wasn't gonna do the Tita Lors: My f- Robin Axline: trick. Tita Lors: Yeah. That makes sense. Robin Axline: had this really like really stupid boyfriend at the time and he was like can I have your locker? And I was like go for it go nuts and I just gave it to him and then I had a friend who had a locker like right smack in the middle of all the classes it wasn't on the bottom it was on the top it was like chef's kiss and so she and I shared that when needed but I still did carry around a lot of books but that Tita Lors: You're poor back. That's crazy. Seriously. I can't remember if in high school we were assigned lockers or if it was like a first come first serve situation. But my friends and I, there was an empty locker and we got to put our own like lockpads or whatever somewhere. We found it. We called it our snack locker. Robin Axline: Nice. Tita Lors: We would all just like buy whatever snacks we wanted, bring them to school and put them in the snack locker. And like, as we went about our lives and our days, we just went to the snack locker every once in while and got ourselves a snack for throughout the day. That was our snack locker. Robin Axline: That's awesome. That is man, that is clutch. I would have loved a snack locker. Tita Lors: I know, right? So like nobody else is using it. So we're just like, all right, well, here we go. Yeah. Robin Axline: That's really genius. I think it's interesting that we both went to California schools, so we don't know that indoor locker culture at all. Tita Lors: Yeah, minor, like, yeah, all of my classes were outside, but it's still crowded. You know, like when you're walking through and then someone decides to just cut and turn and you have no idea what's happening and you run into Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: their backpacks, like, what the heck? Robin Axline: Yeah, like it's like right there and you like you're going around to turn. Same. The worst. Tita Lors: How did we get to this topic? don't remember. Robin Axline: Lockers. this is Locker... Locker Central. Locker Talk. Tita Lors: Locker dock. Robin Axline: It's about your locker stories here. Actually, yeah! Tell us about your lockers. Tita Lors: If you have a locker, did you have a snack locker? Robin Axline: Were your lockers indoors or outdoors? Did you decorate your Tita Lors: What's that? Robin Axline: locker? Tita Lors: Did I? No I didn't. Robin Axline: Did you have a mirror in there? I know, it's... Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: It's when people bump into your bag. When you're... I Tita Lors: That's right. They shoulder check you. Robin Axline: don't like that. And Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: recently, not I, I guess I'm not going to say recently because it happens all the time, but in the past like month or so, these people that come to my area of Brooklyn on a weekend, you can tell that they don't live here and they're just like here to do something funky. Or they're tourists and heard this is a cool area or something. Who knows? There's also a lot of cool shops. So maybe people are buying something specific. IDK. These people that show up have no spatial awareness. Like they're five bros deep just across the sidewalk and some into the street. And it's just like a wall. And you're like, hello? Like... Or they'll be like in a flying V or something. Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: Quack, quack, quack. I do. Tita Lors: Yep. You did. you just described my uniform that I gave myself in my 20s. Why are you late in 20s? Where's my cardigan? Robin Axline: something beige and they don't move like they see you and a friend or something and you're just walking on the sidewalk and there's like three or four of them and they're like this and they don't move it's really wild but I some reason I've noticed it more in the past few months I don't know what's going on Tita Lors: I'm just surprised that outfit is back. Robin Axline: man, I see it every day. I'm like, what in the early aughts is going on or mid aughts? Tita Lors: Everything that you described, started putting together the outfits that I used to wear. Robin Axline: I know, put a fedora on it too, just for good measure. Tita Lors: You have to find a picture. Robin Axline: We'll post it, we'll post it, how about that? Tita Lors: I'm sure I have that exact outfit. Sounds fedora, but I did have a fedora. That exact outfit. Yeah. my goodness. I'm like, it's there. Robin Axline: Or just a big funky round... something rather. Cowboy hat or something. my god. What a time. Tita Lors: It's right there. Because it's like the therapist cardigan. Mm-hmm. Robin Axline: But it's happening. Mmm. Is that what it's called? Therapist cardigan. Tita Lors: The therapist cardigan, like, or like the semi-professional, the casual professional look. Robin Axline: Yeah, yeah. I can see that. Yeah, because you're toning it down. Tita Lors: Exactly. Or trying to tone up a very casual outfit with a cardigan. That was me. Robin Axline: yeah, that too. my gosh. Tita Lors: Oh man, I'm gonna have to find that picture. Robin Axline: yeah, so apparently that's back. Surprise, surprise, news flash. I can't even... Tita Lors: Wow. Thank you. Thank you. I'll be sure to let my late 20s know. Don't give up on those leggings. Robin Axline: Yeah, let your past self know that it comes back around. It's all cyclical. Yeah, I mean, I saw quite a few last weekend. I was like, what is going on? Tita Lors: It was such an easy, it really is just the easiest outfit. Leggings, tank top, cardigan, boots. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Robin Axline: boots if you will. Yeah. So there's that. This is now fashion talk or anti-fashion talk. So yes, so this fight for the sidewalk is a perfect example. of these people that come to town in my neck of the woods. And also elevators, sometimes people like try to close it really fast so you can't... it's the worst. And then they kind of have like a huffy look when you make it in the elevator. Or here's one more example is on the subway. I thought about it because the elevator too sometimes are it can be crowded, but people don't have again spatial awareness. So they're just like standing in a place that doesn't allow for space and the same happens on the subway. Like if you're, go ahead. Yes. Yes. Tita Lors: Yeah, so then like the line isn't moving as fast as it should be because you're not making space for like more people to move forward. Does that make sense? I don't know. feel like I'm just... Okay. Robin Axline: No, no, 100%. It totally does. It also reminded me of when when you're looking for a parking space and somebody left like way too much room either way and so it just becomes like a domino effect and everybody is kind of like spaced out weird. I Tita Lors: messes up all the other, yeah. Robin Axline: hate that so much. people. Yeah, exactly. So I feel like that. And then you can't even open your door to get out. And you have to climb through the car and out the trunk. Tita Lors: Although I will say, that's not really their fault. It's like the whoever made the parking spot. Like, why would you make a parking spot so small? Robin Axline: Tsk tsk. Why? Shame. Shame. Tita Lors: Shame shame. Robin Axline: That's a Game of Thrones reference. Oh! Tita Lors: Yep, for those who don't, I know. Robin Axline: Oh boy, I'm not... Okay, so... Some people can be polite, some people are not on that, and some people like to play chicken, and I feel like that's where it gets to be petty. It's a psychological standoff, if you will. So... Yeah, so I- Yeah, exactly, exactly. Who has more time? So that one solely won the silver. Right, I feel like that is just a Pandora's box, if you will. So I can see why the judges awarded it a silver and the other three the same. Let's see, what did they give the bronze to? Let me pull this up. Yes. So for this category, we're awarding a bronze medal in unspoken communication. And the official title of this category is Pop Culture Dash Social Media. So, yes. People behaving like Instagram captions are legally binding statements. We're in the era of soft launches taking space announcements. boy. Breakup statements that say nothing. And unfollows everyone notices, but nobody addresses. And what's funny about these is we all know what is happening, but we agree not to say it directly because saying it out loud feels too real. And again, nobody agreed to play this game, but we're all playing anyways. Tita Lors: We understand the assignment. Wait, I'm confused about Robin Axline: Yes, I totally agree with. Tita Lors: the taking space announcement. Robin Axline: so like when somebody's like, I'm taking space from social media. or like I guess you could say you're taking space from a person but in my interpretation I feel like it would be taking space those announcements where it's like I you know I'm gonna be off the grid for a while I hope you all understand if you're wondering where I went and it's just this like notes app version of It could be a notes app picture Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: and the captions wild too. Hashtag mental health or something. Tita Lors: so funny. I think, I don't know, maybe I have like a double standard because I think it's so funny when influencers do it. But when my Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: friends do it, I'm like, oh, go you, right? Like, I totally get it. The internet has been wild. You probably need to reset your algorithm. Like you're going through some shit and I know about some of it. And so it totally makes sense that you would want to do it. But then when I see like influencers, I'm like, who cares? Yes. Robin Axline: Yeah, I think to me what's the funniest is when it's somebody that I know and they do like this big announcement and maybe three days go by and they're like, I'm back. I or like they actually they Tita Lors: space. Robin Axline: quietly come back because they're embarrassed that they were so addicted to their phone that Tita Lors: huh. Robin Axline: like and then you see a post and you're like, wait a minute, weren't you on a hiatus? Tita Lors: Usually those last like several days. Robin Axline: Yeah, I mean, because and then my in my pettiness, I am like, they just wanted attention. Like they just wanted somebody to be like, what's wrong or what? Why do you need a break? And that could just be me being petty in my head. But sometimes I feel like it is kind of a. I also think it could be like an accountability thing by putting it out there. Like I know somebody that posts every once in a while like, my life is so terrible. I'm going to try, but one of the things I'm going to try to do is quit smoking. And then not that long goes by this person I know. then they'll, they're not listening. I don't think they'd be listening to this, but, some time goes by. If Tita Lors: If you are, don't. Robin Axline: you are, I'm not talking about you. disregard so it's like a I Don't know not even a month sometimes and they're just like well back on the vape or back on the cigarettes and It's like did why did you post like all these posts like I'm trying to quit or I'm putting my vape in the trash today and then there's like a picture of them just Chimney and yeah, so And then I feel like I've, I'm like a little bit judgy too. In that case, even though it is an accountability thing. Yeah. We Tita Lors: Well you are, but it's okay. Robin Axline: all live in a petty world and we're just, we're just surviving. Tita Lors: Yeah. And you know what? Sometimes this whole like no judgment. I get it in a therapy room. You really shouldn't be judgmental in a therapy room or when somebody is coming to you, when somebody is coming to you with their most vulnerable thing and they're just like, please don't judge me. But like, there's, we all have it in us to be judgmental. And I don't think it's horrible to be like, my first thought off the dome is a very judgmental thought, but there's like a saying somewhere where like your first thought is what you were taught to think and believe. And then your second thought is what you actually want to believe in what you actually do believe about the thing. And we very often judge ourselves based on that first thought when it isn't even what we actually believe. Exactly. Right. But my second thought is always a lot kinder. And the second thought is always how I how I actually want to be in the world. not being fake. I'm not posing. I'm correcting a belief system that was integrated into my mind at a very, young age. Robin Axline: And to quote something my therapist said the other day was make time to give yourself some grace. And that's been in my head since. So do that, guys. If your first thought was something not so great, maybe think again. Tita Lors: what your belief system is. Robin Axline: that's that's so interesting. I heard something similar, but not that one, especially framed like that. So. And. Because in the improv world, they say, like, go with your. I can't remember, it's like, go with your second idea or something like it's what's one of them, it's one of them. Tita Lors: Yeah. Robin Axline: Maybe it's your third idea, I don't know, but Tita Lors: you Robin Axline: there's an improv one just like that too. I'll find it, we can post it. But, yes. So, I feel like this pop culture social media category was right to be awarded a bronze because it's kind of something that happens and people are very passive. Again, agreed to this game, we're all playing it anyways. And from all this, I was thinking like... as a whole human being race, we don't like uncertainty. We don't like incomplete information. We don't like not knowing why something changed. So instead of sitting in that discomfort, this goes back to the emoji thing we're talking about. I was thinking we assign meaning or create a category or turn behavior into a narrative because I don't know feels so spacious it feels worse yeah yeah yes exactly back to what you're saying right yeah yeah I would love to know why Tita Lors: When our little brains are not right, when we were all like K people living in the wild, blah, blah, we didn't have like the safety security of our homes and houses. We were out there with like the predatory animals. uncertainty was literally dangerous. uncertainty was literally death, potentially. So our brains developed strategies to quickly determine if something is safe or not safe. And it's happening always in the background that we're quickly making these decisions safe, not safe, safe, not safe, safe, not safe. And the less information that we have, the longer it takes, the more difficult it is to determine. what's like actual safe and they probably trust themselves better to determine what's actually safe or not versus someone who grew up in a dangerous environment emotionally physically for some people or in a whole bunch of different ways right like the attunement is different and sometimes because you're so taught not to trust yourself it's harder to determine whether you're safe or not Yeah, and so that's and that's why uncertainty is so uncomfortable because you either never learned what to do with it because you never had to or because it's historically for you very, very, very dangerous. Ian. You don't have a cat! Robin Axline: I didn't see him moving, so I was like, maybe he just opened the door. That was insane. That was a nice cameo. Tita Lors: trying to do? Bye! Robin Axline: And that was Ian. Tita Lors: mean, very well timed, because that was a very serious section. Robin Axline: I know. I was all like in like in that mode and then all of sudden I hear the door open but I didn't see him until he said something and I saw him doing the worm behind me. Tita Lors: Okay, what were you gonna say? Robin Axline: Yeah, yeah, like I think I was gonna say it's about trying to make sense of a social behavior when nothing is labeled is kind of the worst. But also human nature, as you were saying. And I think that about wraps it up for this year's Petty Battle. A petty Olympics excuse me. I'm going to get in so much trouble. People Yeah, that is crazy. Did you know that when I was a baby, I went to the Olympics in Los Angeles? Mm-hmm. Yeah, with my grandma. Tita Lors: No way. The 84. Robin Axline: Yeah, 84. So I was like one years old. My, yeah, I know, Tita Lors: I can't believe you don't remember that, Robin. Robin Axline: I can't believe. The only reason I remember it is because there's a picture of me like sitting in a seat. And so, and I'm wearing like an Olympics hat or something funny. But my parents performed at it, so they Tita Lors: Hahaha Robin Axline: had extra tickets. They like did, yeah, it was pretty, pretty memorable for them, but it's just funny. like, yeah, I went to the Olympics when I was one years old. Yeah, Tita Lors: Hehehehehe Robin Axline: so take that. Tita Lors: Okay. Robin Axline: Anyways, so yes, back to the show. Back to the show. Yeah, let's do it. So. Tita Lors: And then in silver is the real name. So that was the one. Yeah. Where he's like, should I use or my girlfriend doesn't like it when I use my ex's real name because nobody else does it. Do you remember? Yeah. Robin Axline: right, right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tita Lors: And then we talked about like the stories that people are creating where they're probably going to break up and he's going to get back together with his ex. Okay, and then I believe in a tie for bronze, it's the Dumas story. That's, do you remember that one? Robin Axline: That always cracks me up. Tita Lors: That was the one where like the ex's affair partner was like assuming that they had started to see each other again. Robin Axline: Yeah. Tita Lors: Yeah, and he started to accuse, like, the OP's ex of cheating or, like, having an affair or whatever, something like that. Yeah, was messing with them constantly just by like at the end of their conversations would be like, that was a really good time. I can't we should probably do that again. Robin Axline: That was a good one. That was a good one. So that what did that get? Silver also. bronze. OK. Tita Lors: Is this the guy who was like humming and hawing because somebody sat next to them? Was that coffee shop Steve? Okay, yeah. Robin Axline: yes, yes, yes. Good call. Tita Lors: Okay, yep, so gold. I disqualified myself from that. I was like, you win. I don't even wanna go against you. Robin Axline: that was crazy. can't believe. Tita Lors: my god that was so funny. And then the real name one and then for bronze Dumas and coffee shop Steve. That was a good series. Good series of petty battles. Robin Axline: Yeah, I'm about it. you want to look at the rankings, head over to our website. We'll have that up for a little bit. That'll be our first official bracket of the podcast. Yeah, the gold gold, the platinum, the... yeah, the... plutonium or something, I don't know. Tita Lors: Platinum, Whatever it is. Robin Axline: Oh man. Yeah, I can't wait for that. So I'm sure you all are interested. That... Yeah, totally. It's been just a delight so far. And I love how we did Olympic ratings on them to go with the show. Yeah, anywho, do you have anything further you'd like to add, Lora Okay, well I just wanted to say dear listeners, thank you so much for your continued support. If you enjoyed hanging out with us, please subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Deezer, or anywhere you get your podcasts so you don't miss the next episode. Send in your Petty Culture moments, Petty Petty Battle entries, because we want them. And until next time, stay petty. Bye. Tita Lors: Go tell Ian he's a horrible cat. And a Robin Axline: I'll tell him. Okay. Tita Lors: terrible worm. Robin Axline: He tried. All right. See you in a second. Yeah. Tita Lors: And it didn't help that we could hear him like sliding across the floor, like squeaking across the floor. And he's like his little... Robin Axline: man, Suzy. I don't know. Okay, I'll tell him. Tita Lors: Horrible. All right, bye. Robin Axline: he must've gone out for a run because he wasn't there. I was like, where are you? And then he wasn't there. Tita Lors: He's avoiding being reprimanded. Robin Axline: Yeah. Yeah.